Re: for years I have been using korn shell
- Original Message - -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Paula, that mob is having you on. If they know even the most basics of Unix shell scripting, they should be using the comment convention as the first line of any of their scripts. As in: #!/bin/csh to make their code run in the C-shell NO MATTER what your shell might be. If they don't do that and expect you to use their shell, get on to them quick and as heavy as you can. That's just unacceptable in this day and age. I used the bourne shell for scripting almost exclusively until very recently. I'm now using Korn shell, even in Linux where it is not installed by default and bash seems the way to go. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Here's a snippit from my ~/.kshrc, which kinda-sorta approximates bash's default behavior. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to bind TAB for filename completion in ksh88. :-( Apparently ksh93 can handle this, but it isn't available on any of the servers I support. set -o emacs alias __A=`echo \020` # up arrow = ^p = back a command alias __B=`echo \016` # down arrow = ^n = down a command alias __C=`echo \006` # right arrow = ^f = forward a character alias __D=`echo \002` # left arrow = ^b = back a character alias __H=`echo \001` # home = ^a = start of line alias __Y=`echo \005` # end = ^e = end of line -Original Message- Jesse, Rich Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Norris, Gregory T [ITS] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: for years I have been using korn shell
Bash is a very big shell which I typically don't need. I use korn shell which is available as pdksh package (see rpmfind.net). On 11/10/2003 04:54:25 PM, Jesse, Rich wrote: For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
The few bash scripts I've done would work the same if they were headed with #!/bin/ksh. If I need to get complex, I typically pop off a pearl of a Perl. Whoops...as I check on my scripts at home I see they're all headed with #!/bin/sh. Oh well. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell Rich So do you use bash for interactive or to write scripts? The trap many fell into (and apparently still fall into) is that cshell is excellent for interactive work, but isn't so great for scripting. That is the power of korn, a friendly interactive face and a powerful scripting capability. I'm just asking because I have a feeling I'll wind up on Linux some day. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Following advice from a fine book on optimizing Oracle, I don't think the time and effort it would take to test and implement this could be justified here. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can get current korn shell source from http://www.kornshell.com/ Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/10/2003 01:54 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: for years I have been using korn shell For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: for years I have been using korn shell
PDKSH is also needed for Mac OS X, available on http://www.osxgnu.org/software;... Bash is a very big shell which I typically don't need. I use korn shell which is available as pdksh package (see rpmfind.net). On 11/10/2003 04:54:25 PM, Jesse, Rich wrote: For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services -- --- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services -- --- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Concerning pdksh: Unless it has been fixed (and I don't think it has), it is too buggy to be used for scripting. If you are going to download and install ksh, get The Real Thing. If you have way too much time on your hands and want a monster shell -- the biggest of them all, get zsh; it's strictly for certified geeks as evidence by your consumption of Twinkies and Mountain Dew. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Oh, wait! I know this! ^H=back a character! ^U=erase line! IT'S VMS! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's a snippit from my ~/.kshrc, which kinda-sorta approximates bash's default behavior. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to bind TAB for filename completion in ksh88. :-( Apparently ksh93 can handle this, but it isn't available on any of the servers I support. set -o emacs alias __A=`echo \020` # up arrow = ^p = back a command alias __B=`echo \016` # down arrow = ^n = down a command alias __C=`echo \006` # right arrow = ^f = forward a character alias __D=`echo \002` # left arrow = ^b = back a character alias __H=`echo \001` # home = ^a = start of line alias __Y=`echo \005` # end = ^e = end of line -Original Message- Jesse, Rich Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Norris, Gregory T [ITS] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
How about just use ESC for filename completion? I'm using 11/16/88 version ksh. $ set -o emacs $ what /bin/ksh /bin/ksh: Version M-11/16/88i SunOS 5.8 Generic 110662-04 May 2001 $ touch yongtest $ ls yongtest yongtest The last line was typed by pressing ls yongtESCESC. Yong Huang -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's a snippit from my ~/.kshrc, which kinda-sorta approximates bash's default behavior. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to bind TAB for filename completion in ksh88. :-( Apparently ksh93 can handle this, but it isn't available on any of the servers I support. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Yong Huang INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Yeah, using double-ESC works fine for filename completion. I was just pointing out that there's no way to map it to TAB (as far as I know), like bash uses. -Original Message- Yong Huang Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L How about just use ESC for filename completion? I'm using 11/16/88 version ksh. $ set -o emacs $ what /bin/ksh /bin/ksh: Version M-11/16/88i SunOS 5.8 Generic 110662-04 May 2001 $ touch yongtest $ ls yongtest yongtest The last line was typed by pressing ls yongtESCESC. Yong Huang -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's a snippit from my ~/.kshrc, which kinda-sorta approximates bash's default behavior. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to bind TAB for filename completion in ksh88. :-( Apparently ksh93 can handle this, but it isn't available on any of the servers I support. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Yong Huang INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Norris, Gregory T [ITS] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: for years I have been using korn shell
I think you should make an issue, because Korn Shell (/bin/ksh) is de-facto standard and the vendor should deliver either both shells (Korn and C) or only Korn. Allegedly, bash can assume both personalities, but if you need to modify the script, you need it to have it in Korn Shell language. Of course, the best thing to have would be an install script having #!/usr/bin/perl -w on the first line, but it would be too much to ask, wouldn't it? BTW, my spelling checker is offering the word Koran for as a correction of the word Korn. On 11/10/2003 04:09:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Paula -- If you want to change your shell, just enter the name of the shell on the command line and press return. You will spawn a new session in that shell. To revert to your previous shell, just exit the same as you would to end your current session. HTH, Bambi. -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: for years I have been using korn shell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula If it's just a matter of installing the product, I wouldn't care. -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
We are using Korn and I have for years used C, borne etc. Now we are converting all to use Perl so we can only have one set of scripts to support over other platforms.. I supposed its a good Idea but like you I hate to keep changing when you are at expert level at one and have to start over. Brian -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Spears, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Paula Ensure the first line of the file has something like #! /bin/csh I agree with Brian that if you're simply installing this application with no requirement to maintain it, then no worries. If you end up maintaining it, beware. C-shell superficially resembles bourne/korn shell, but actually differs in some critical aspects. Sneaky little things that can bite you when you least expect it. Originally c-shell was created to overcome some deficiencies in bourne shell, but when bourne evolved into korn, in my opinion that eliminated the need for c. Either way, have a little talk with your vendor's developers about what the heck they are doing. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
You can get current korn shell source from http://www.kornshell.com/ Jared Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/10/2003 01:54 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: for years I have been using korn shell For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
Rich So do you use bash for interactive or to write scripts? The trap many fell into (and apparently still fall into) is that cshell is excellent for interactive work, but isn't so great for scripting. That is the power of korn, a friendly interactive face and a powerful scripting capability. I'm just asking because I have a feeling I'll wind up on Linux some day. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: for years I have been using korn shell
See: http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/~fosler/csh-from-hell/csh-from-hell.html http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/CshTop10.txt DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/10/2003 03:54 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: for years I have been using korn shell Rich So do you use bash for interactive or to write scripts? The trap many fell into (and apparently still fall into) is that cshell is excellent for interactive work, but isn't so great for scripting. That is the power of korn, a friendly interactive face and a powerful scripting capability. I'm just asking because I have a feeling I'll wind up on Linux some day. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For Linux, I use bash. For Unix (HP/Sun) accounts, I use Korn, where bash typically isn't available. I like either, but am tending to like bash more for the non-vi command line editing that uses cursor keys (I've been told that this is set -o emacs in Korn, but it shore don't work like that on Korn-88). For one 3rd party install, I use csh because that's what they require. And because of they way they have it setup, if I'm in Korn and execute their setup, it won't work. I have to change to csh first, then execute their setup. Just poorly written, IMHO. My $.02, Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: for years I have been using korn shell I have been working with Oracle on Unix - various platforms since Version 6.X. For the first time a vendor has sent us an install that installs under the C-shell. Up until this point I have always worked on and installed under the korn shell. This introduces a different shell environment in our current environment. I find this really annoying. However, I cannot find anything that stipulates which shell environment to use. -What is everyone else using out there? -Do you think I should make an issue of this one? Thanks, Paula -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
