Re: [OSList] Online Open Space with more than 1000 people?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

As someone who has had early childhood system clients for decades, I 
want to reinforce Birgitt's observations, especially about how important 
prework is to getting the whole system in the room.


One additional layer I will add is government and politics. Early 
childhood education (ECE), especially subsidized and other publicly 
funded ECE  is highly regulated. There is usually federal, state, and 
local regulation and, very frequently, the regulations are not in 
alignment. Public funding is rooted in compliance - the "givens" Birgitt 
refers to. Also, regulations typically lag research on best practices, 
creating another source of tension.


From my perspective, early childhood education is one of the most 
critical public policy matters in the US. I'm glad you are taking it on. 
Best wishes.


Shalom,

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On 4/21/2022 3:40 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:

Hi Lucas,
First, I was excited to see that the topic was child welfare, a very 
important topic with a decision time of yesterdayin other words, 
long overdue as our child welfare systems have many problems leaving 
vulnerable children at risk.


Then, when I saw it was only six hours, I went into my 'oh crap' mode 
as this is one of my personal pet peeves. My career began in child 
welfare and it is one of the reasons why at age 21 I decided to become 
an organizational consultant that could influence systems. So yes, 
whole system in the 'room' is great. However, the amount of time for 
such a complex topic and so very much that needs to be addressed and 
changed is so completely inadequate.


I believe that there is one more important consideration beyond the 
technology and beyond the facilitation. This is about prep...figuring 
out who should be invited, getting the invitation right, and getting 
the givens right at the very least. Who defines the 'whole system' and 
is it sufficiently inclusive...will parents, children, foster 
children, former foster children, and people who are now adults who 
needed the child welfare system when they were younger. The givens 
will be challenging to work out. Is the OST meeting to be set up for 
action or only for conversation/input? If set up for action, is there 
a budget to support follow through and what are the givens associated 
with budget? If there is to be action, is there a structure envisioned 
to support action, or is it an event that if there is an idea that 
appeals to someone, they just go and do it? So many more questions 
that need to be thought through for the greatest harvest from this event.


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On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 2:15 PM Lucas Cioffi via OSList 
 wrote:


Hi All,

Someone asked me for advice about hosting an online open space
with 1500 people who work on child welfare. They want to get the
"whole system in the room", including government, professionals,
families, etc.

I can see that there are at least two separate parts to this
challenge: tech/software and facilitation.

*1. Tech/Software:* What technology decisions would you make to
accommodate 1500, since the capacity of Zoom meetings is 1000?  I
wrote up my thoughts on this part at the bottom of this email.

*2. Facilitation:* This is the main question that I have for
colleagues on OSLIST.  What special design considerations would
you have during an open space (online or not) with more than 1500
people?  Here are some questions that come to mind:

  * How many sessions do you think people will propose if this is
a 1-day, 6 hour event with 3-4 rounds of discussion sessions? 
I searched OSLIST and found this from Harrison in 2016: "Rule
of thumb... for all these years 5 break our rooms/spaces
per 100 participants. For smaller groups (+- 50) a largeroom
with nooks usually works better. I’ve had groups of 25 with
4-5 groups working at the same time." 

Re: [OSList] celebrating 30 years of Working With Open Space Technology

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Thanks for your post. Birgitt.

While I have not been active online in recent years, I have followed 
along. You and I started about the same time and shared many OSONOS 
experiences in those early years.


Several of you observations ring true for me. I also did experimentation 
with when shorter sessions might be effective - especially after an 
extended meetings.


Over the years two of my clients eventually incorporated the principles 
and practices of OST into their organization cultures. Others use OST 
more or less regularly.


One of my favorite memories of an OST meeting involved calling together 
a group of mental health professionals who were concerned about some 
pending legislation that could have significant negative affects 
statewide if passed. One of the things I was aware of as background 
noise was that the urban leaders and the rural leaders were actively 
involved in a political battle with each other. While that issue had 
very little to do with the reason they gathered, they ended up with a 
shared legislative strategy AND resolved the urban/rural issue while 
they were at it! As we all know - they just needed the space!


Another was when The U.S. Probation and Pretrial Services System was 
planning their annual national training program. My colleagues and I had 
worked with some of their local jurisdictions using OST and some people 
suggested using OST for their national event. There was definitely some 
resistance. They finally agreed to half traditional and half OST. They 
started in the traditional format and spent the last day in open space. 
Starting the next year they did the whole event using OST!


One of my favorite memories of Harrison is dancing with Harrison and 
Ralph to the music of the Rolling Stones at one OSONOS.


Another is from US election day, 1988. (There is a separate Harrison 
story related to that election, but I digress.) I had invited Harrison 
to do an Open Space training with me in Columbus, Ohio. Our "design" for 
the day was to model the process by using the usual OST calling of the 
circle and agenda setting to shape the training on the spot. While I was 
still thinking in terms of introducing Harrison, and having Harrison 
make some opening remarks and call the circle, he unexpectedly handed 
off calling the circle to me. Once we had the agenda, we shared roles 
working with the group. Participants were very satisfied, including two 
who were openly skeptical about the process. In retrospect, I was struck 
by Harrison's humility, as well as his confidence in me - someone he had 
not know for very long.


In the words of the Grateful Dead, "What a long, strange trip it's 
been!" And a wonderful one, as well.



Shalom,

Chris Kloth
Principal/Lead Consultant
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Columbus, OH 43209-1801
Ph: 614-239-1336
Cell: 614-907-2409
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On 4/5/2022 6:01 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:

Dear friends and colleagues,
this month I am celebrating 30 years of working with Open Space 
Technology. What a grand journey it has been, giving me a vehicle to 
be of help to leaders and  their organizations...while simultaneously 
growing me. I benefited a lot from in depth four day trainings in OST 
with Harrison, attending, co-sponsoring seven training sessions in 
Canada. I continue to facilitate in the ways that we were originally 
taught, with adjustments made to adapt OST for the online environment. 
I refuse to facilitate an OST less than four hours, with sessions 
never less than one hour.


My two favorite experiences of being a participant in OST meetings: 
the first OSONOS in a hotel near Dulles airport in which just over 30 
of us gathered to explore our learning with OST and the excitement of 
participating in what was then pioneering work with organizations. The 
second of my favorite experiences was the Expanding Our Now event in 
Oregon in the mid 90's sponsored and facilitated by Harrison Owen and 
Anne Stadler. Five full days within an OST container, exploring and 
accomplishing ways to expand our now. Again, about thirty of us came 
together, from a number of countries, with profound experiences within 
which each of us experienced personal transformation and the expansion 
of ourselves, and the expansion of our NOW. We who gathered understood 
that the bigger our NOW, the better we facilitated. The power of a 
multi-day OST is not often the current offer...however, it is powerful 
beyond what can be imagined.


In those early days, I experimented with how short an OST meeting 
could be while still retaining what I believed was valuable about OST. 
Four hours was the shortest I would go...and in those days I did so as 
a means for following up from a multi-day OST for the purpose of 
moving topics forward that had been prioritized from the multi-day 
OST. 

Re: [OSList] Satire from the Washington Post - for all Wordsmiths out there.

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Thanks, Romy.

With all of the mess going on in the world at the moment I needed a good 
laugh, and I love word humor. I especially like coffee! 


Shalom,

Chris Kloth
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ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Columbus, OH 43209-1801
Ph: 614-239-1336
Cell: 614-907-2409
Fax: 614-237-2347
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On 2/27/2022 12:08 PM, Romy Shovelton via OSList wrote:
Thank you SO much…. The is utterly hilarious…. I’m sitting here 
laughing out loud !! 


On 26 Feb 2022, at 21:09, Mark Carmel via OSList 
 wrote:


*ENGLISH Mensa Invitational - for lexophiles*
*The Washington Post Mensa Invitational once again invited readers to 
take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, 
or changing one letter, and supply a new definition.**Here are the 
winners:

*
*-
*1.* Cashtration* (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the 
subject financially impotent for an indefinite period of time.



2.* Ignoranus*: A person who's both stupid and an asshole.

3.* Intaxicaton*: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until 
you realize it was your money to start with.


4.* Reintarnation*: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.

5.* Bozone* (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops 
bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows 
little sign of breaking down in the near future.


6.* Foreploy*:Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of 
getting laid.


7.* Giraffiti*: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high.

8.* Sarchasm*: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the 
person who doesn't get it.


9.* Inoculatte*: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

10.* Osteopornosis*: A degenerate disease.*(*This one got extra credit)

11.* Karmageddon*: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these 
really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's 
like, a serious bummer.


12.* Decafalon*(n):Thegrueling event of getting through the day 
consuming only things that are good for you.


13.* Glibido*: All talk and no action.

14.* Dopeler Effect*: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter 
when they come at you rapidly.


15.* Arachnoleptic Fit* (n.): The frantic dance performed just after 
you've accidentally walked through a spider web.


16.* Beelzebug* (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into 
your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

*
*17.* Caterpallor* (n.): The color you turn after finding half a worm 
in the fruit you're eating.




*The WashingtonPost has also published the winning submissions to its 
yearly contest, in which readers are asked to supply alternate 
meanings for common words.


And the winners are:

*1.* Coffee*, n. The person upon whom one coughs.

2.* Flabbergasted*,adj. Appalled by discovering how much weight one 
has gained.


3. *A**bdicate*, v. To give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach.

4.* Esplanade*, v. To attempt an explanation while drunk.

5.* Willy-nilly*, adj. Impotent.

6.* Negligent*, adj. Absent mindedly answering the door when wearing 
only a nightgown.


7.* Lymph*, v. To walk with a lisp.

8.* Gargoyle*, n. Olive-flavored mouthwash.

9.* Flatulence*, n. Emergency vehicle that picks up someone who has 
been run over by a steamroller.


10.* Balderdash*, n. A rapidly receding hairline.

11.* Testicle*, n. A humorous question on an exam.

12.* Rectitude*, n. The formal, dignified bearing adopted by 
proctologists.


13. *Pokemon*, n. A Rastafarian proctologist.

14. *Oyster*, n. A person who sprinkles his conversation with 
Yiddishisms.


15. *Frisbeetarianism*, n. The belief that, after death, the soul 
flies up onto the roof and gets stuck there.


16. *Circumvent*, n. An opening in the front of boxer shorts worn by 
Jewish men.



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Re: [OSList] Open Space in Zoom times......

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Sounds interesting to me in Ohio

My new cell phone number is 614-907-2409.

Shalom,

Chris Kloth
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254 South Merkle Road
Columbus, OH 43209-1801
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On 1/10/2021 7:59 AM, Romy Shovelton via OSList wrote:

Hello lovely OS world and extended family….

Apologies for being absent for SO long….. I lurk occasionally and 
enJOY seeing you there, sharing wisdom so brilliantly and inspiringly. 
Thank you.


Seeing Funda’s posting…. I would LOVE to have a conversation (dare I 
say Zoom ?!!) with OS people about how to make OS the best it possibly 
can be in an online world. I know that Phelim and the Improbable crew 
have done some online work. If anyone might be interested in talking 
about such things, I would love it….


Many thanks

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Re: [OSList] Looking for "butterfly" ideas

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Search the list for references to QiQo and Lucas Cioffi.

He is doing some very interesting things with stretching the capacity 
and flexibility of Zoom to accommodate large scale virtual Open Space 
gatherings.


QiQoChat
Lucas Cioffi
Lead Software Engineer, QiqoChat.com 
Scarsdale, NY
917-528-1831

My new cell phone number is 614-907-2409.

Shalom,

Chris Kloth
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Columbus, OH 43209-1801
Ph: 614-239-1336
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On 9/10/2020 4:49 PM, Patrick Schley via OSList wrote:


In larger Zoom OST sessions where you can’t make everyone a co-host, 
we have asked people to add the room number they want to go to at the 
front of their Zoom name. We have one or two “Zoom pilots” who scan 
the participant list and make breakout room assignments once the 
marketplace opens. Then to move between rooms you just have to come 
back to the main room and ask one of the pilots to switch you. It 
seems to work pretty well.


-p.

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*From:* OSList  *On Behalf Of 
*Eric M. Kapono via OSList

*Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:44 PM
*To:* 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' 


*Cc:* Eric M. Kapono 
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Looking for "butterfly" ideas

Another alternative I learned (probably from the great DC Liberating 
Structures  group) is in Zoom making everyone 
a Host.


This gives everyone the ability to move between breakouts. It is a 
little tedious because the original Host must go through the 
Participant list and one-by-one make each person a Host, but if your 
partner is Opening Circle, then you can do this in the background. 
When sessions are posted, folks then select the appropriate breakout 
to join (just like a Host). To use their two feet, they leave the 
breakout room, end up in the main room, then butterfly or bumble bee. 
The caveat here is to not select “Leave Meeting” because you’ll be 
taken out of Zoom have to click back in; just click “Leave Room”. I’ve 
only tried it this one time and it seemed to work well. First-time 
Zoom users would need some instructions.


Best,

~Eric

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Mezick via OSList

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:32 PM
*To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>

*Cc:* Daniel Mezick mailto:d...@newtechusa.net>>
*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Looking for "butterfly" ideas

Mark Sheffield and I have published an open-sourced Checklist and 
Guide for online OST.


Here it is: scroll to the bottom

https://openleadershipnetwork.com/onprogress/

In the online OST design, we use plain old Zoom accounts, one per room 
and define Lobby, Hallway, Lounge, and people use these to hang around 
and chat with others who congregate there.


We also stay put in the big room after the Open to handle questions 
and welcome strays...


and people come and go to/from there and often hang for a while, 
sometimes people have beverages with them.


I hope this helps you out a little bit.

Regards,

-Daniel

On Sep 9, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Glenn Waters via OSList
mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

Play4Agile Global, a collaboration of three Play4Agile OS
Conferences that used to be held in person, is holding our first
online conference Oct 3-4. While a number of us have organized and
participated in online Open Space conferences we were wondering
about what ideas people have or have tried to replicate the
butterfly experience. Our organizers haven't come up with too many
ideas that creates the same experience.

We tried https://theonline.town/  which
is pretty cool but the technology is still a bit young and people
were challenged getting in and connected. (It has loads of potential).

What else have people tried?

Thanks!

Glenn

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[OSList] Happy Birthday, Harrison!

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy birthday, Harrison.

I hope you had a great day.

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[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy birthday, Harrison. I hope you had a great day.
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Re: [OSList] Some Thoughts

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Jake, thanks for the post

I'm in general agreement with the idea that OST is not a thing; it's a 
way of looking at the world around us and finding satisfying ways to 
work in it. (I resist turning too many nouns into verbs!  :-)  )


I also agree that many (most?) clients either don't know the term, 
misunderstand it, and don't care much about methodology... at least not 
at first.  They want a better understanding their own situation and 
figuring out what, if anything, to do about it. They also want to get a 
sense of how we might be helpful.


I prefer to talk in terms of outcomes or creating new narratives more 
than solving problems.


I do share the core values and beliefs that inform how I view the world 
and work with client systems. Those values, beliefs and methods have 
been informed by the likes of Harrison, Meg Wheatley, Carolyn 
Lukensmeyer, Barbara Bunker, David Cooperider, Barry Oshry, Marv 
Weisbord, Fred Emery, Bob Rehm, Ralph Copleman, Lisa Kimball and June 
Holley... to name a few.


I am looking forward to our gathering in October. I used to be a regular 
in the early days, and have maintained my connection with you all 
through this list.


Shalom,

Chris Kloth
Principal/Lead Consultant
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
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Columbus, OH 43209-1801
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On 10/4/2019 7:34 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList wrote:

Hi everyone,

Some thoughts that might stimulate conversation:

  * Open Space is not a "thing": it's a way of working. Open Space is
probably more properly a verb, such as "We're open-spacing..."
  * Minimize the use of the term "Open Space": it's alien to most
people, and it reinforces the notion that it is a "thing" that you
"do"
  * Let an organization give this way of working it's own name if it wants
  * Focus on the problems I can help an organization with and on
possible outcomes: do not focus on the process
  * Discuss my fundamental beliefs with the client
 1. Everyone wants to participate in creating their own future
 2. All answers are within
  * How to make sure you work in alignment with belief #1 (from Meg
Wheatley)
  o Everyone who cares is invited
  o Everyone dialogues and connects with many others
  o Everyone creates the organization's future

Have a great weekend!

All the best,
Jake


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, 
and you will be free of problems.

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Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic Planning?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a division of  
Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually 100% of the  
employees of the new organization in two geographic locations  
simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the midwest. We had  
ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to communicate what  
was going on at each location each round! By the end of the process  
there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization  
structure.


I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative  
partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing early childhood  
care and education to very different types of children, resulting in a  
mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a plan for the  
first two years of their partnership. That partnership is now almost  
25 years old. It's members have internalized the principles of OST.



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Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList :


Hi all,

Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or vision statement or
2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any recommendations?

Thanks!

Much love as always,
Jake

P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in person! :)


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[OSList] Open Space in Prison

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

This week I have been doing some work with Adam Foss and his  
Prosecutor Impact program in Columbus, Ohio. USA. (See link below)


As part of this two week program we took 40+ prosecutors to Marion  
Correctional Institution for the day. Most had never been in a prison.  
Without going into the details, a group of 12 inmates organized a day  
of activities to provide the prosecutors to explore what it might mean  
to re-imagine the roles of prosecutors on the criminal justice system  
in the US and in Ohio.


We entered a very large chapel in the prison and discovered a very  
large circle of chairs. Imagine my surprise when Wayne, a lifer, said  
that while he had been inside he had learned about a process called  
Open Space Technology and entered into a brief review of the  
Principles and the Law! He sent markers around the circle, explaining  
that they were serving as both a talking sticks and ways to identify  
topics... an approach that accommodated the security concerns  
reflected in prison policies.


Purists might raise a number of questions about how the process was  
planned and executed, but if the essence is opening space for people  
to organize themselves to have several rounds of dialogue within the  
Principles and the Laws... I call it an amazing success. If inmates  
and prosecutors crying and embracing as part of the closing circle...  
I call it an amazing success.


Before we left I asked Wayne how he learned about OST. He said he  
found this "old green book" in the prison library!


I have been blessed to have experienced and convened many OST  
experiences that left me feeling deeply touched, but I suspect this  
session will always live deep  in my heart as one of the most profound!



https://www.ted.com/talks/adam_foss_a_prosecutor_s_vision_for_a_better_justice_system/discussion


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2019 registrations open

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Hi, Birgitt. I hope you are well.

You may recall that in the early days of OST, before OSONOS, I was an  
active member of the OST community. I have continued to use OST as one  
of the tools in my work, and have continued to (mostly) lurk on OSLIST.


I have already registered for OSONOS 2019... I can't wait to reconnect  
with some of my old friends and meet some of the people I have seen  
online.


I have watched your Genuine Contact work evolve from a distance. I  
noticed the pre-OSONOS session is from a module in your Genuine  
Contact program. I am wondering, as someone who still uses OST, if  
there is something in particular your approach might be distinct...  
something to add to my learning. At the same time, I don't want to  
take a spot that someone just learning about OST might benefit from.


What are your thoughts?

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
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Quoting Birgitt Williams via OSList :


Dear  Harold,
I love the theme and recognizing the spirit of OST. I became a fan of OST
when it was very much focused on opening space for spirit to do the work of
spirit...always life nurturing and working with what is present.

I love that before the WOSONOS there is a training in Working with OST, a
module of the Genuine Contact program. I love that after the WOSONOS there
is a workshop offering OpenSpaceAgility. Wonderful bookends to an awesome
event. I have attended lots of OSONOS's before they were referred to as
WOSONOS's...and then several WOSONOS's before health concerns got in the
way. I am intending to be able to attend and will have to discover whether
this is in the Divine Plan for me.

I also will post the information in my social media and can imagine that if
we all do the same, news of this fantastic conference will go viral.

in genuine contact,
Birgitt


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 theme is Genuine
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On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:30 PM Harold Shinsato via OSList <
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Dear Open Space Family,

The World Open Space on Open Space 2019 registration page is live and
ready to receive registrations.

https://osius.org/wosonos2019

Many thanks to all the Open Space Institute board members, emeritus
members and friends who helped scout facilities, lodging options, for
developing artwork, and for the many people who helped us fashion the theme
of...

¿Honoring the Ineffable Spirit of Open Space Technology?

We say more about the theme on the website. It seems impossible to capture
the spirit behind Open Space Technology in words, thus the word ineffable.
Which means utterly indescribable. So the upside-down question mark we
stole from the Spanish is intended to especially emphasize the inquiry
about honoring that spirit.

Please feel free to send any questions to i...@osius.org, to me, or to
any board member you know. We hope to see many of you there.

Regards,
Harold

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Re: [OSList] Relationship between Appreciative Inquiry and OST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Jake, I have a few thoughts.

The first is that Peggy's link to the essays in the AI Practitioner  
will help you sort this out.


I learned about OST from Harrison in the very early years. I learned  
AI from David before there was a book. I have used both separately and  
together based on the unique context of each project. I have worked  
using OST hundreds of times. I have used AI about a dozen times and  
each time it worked incredibly well... and a few of those were  
followed up by use of OST at some point. Credit for the selection of  
either approach, as well as the success of the process, lies with the  
people in the system, who chose to organize to make a difference in  
their worlds.


Your question about whether your own unconscious bias is part of your  
reaction is worth exploring. However, if you have been taught in a way  
that leaves the impression that the generative questions guide the  
participants in ways controlled by anyone other than the participants,  
then you may also may want to examine the knowledge and biases of  
whoever is teaching you. I have seen both approaches taught and  
managed badly.


Finally, I am always curious about what is behind the question, "what  
is the relationship between" this methodology or that. I have seen the  
same question raised by devotees of Future Search, Search, World Cafe,  
ToP, and others.
I'm not sure anymore what portion of the members of this list use one  
or more approaches to their work, including OST. My impression is  
that, like most similar groups, there are some true believers and some  
mix and matchers. Not very scientific or academic distinctions... I'm  
sure the bell curve applies somehow. I have no judgement here.


However, I very recently found myself in a similar conversation with  
some of my musician friends and colleagues. If you  will indulge me,  
please, And trust that this will all connect (at least in my own  
peculiar mind) here is where I find myself mucking about tonight:


From my perspective the more interesting questions on this list have  
to do with the underlying values and beliefs that influence how we  
enter into communion with the people we work with... what are the  
deeper meanings of self-organization, spirit, emergence, power and the  
powers of narrative and image.


As an amateur ethno-musicologist I love to explore the relationship of  
of musical genres and methods across cultures. It is a fun journey,  
whether alone or with others.


But as a performing musician, the connection with an audience during a  
performance is rooted in the deeper questions of spirit, emergence,  
power, openness and self organization (especially in a jam session)...  
no matter whether the show is rooted in one musical genre or many.


Whether it is OST or AI or ... or jazz, or blues, or classical or...  
the connection and work are rooted in our answers to the deeper  
questions.


For what it is worth...

Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

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Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList :


Hey everyone,

First, thank you all for entertaining my questions! I really appreciate
your responses: they help me learn a great deal and to recognize the--often
erroneous!--assumptions I am making.

That said, I have another question! :) What do you find to be the
relationship between Appreciative Inquiry (AI) and OST?

I am studying AI as part of my OD training at work, and it doesn't sit 100%
with me like Open Space does. I think it's because I feel it is
manipulative, that is, it uses generative questions to guide participants'
trajectory as opposed to letting the participants themselves choose their
trajectory. However, AI appears to be very effective, so I wonder if my
resistance is due to some unconscious bias I have.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks!

Much love,
Jake


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Re: [OSList] Happy Birthday Harrison!

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy birthday, Harrison.

I will be thinking about the light you and OST have brought to the  
lives of so many people when I light our menorah tonight.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
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Quoting Suzanne Daigle via OSList :


Dear Harrison,

Posted this pic on Open Space Facebook!  Sharing it here.  With love and
life gratitude, wishing you a magical "be prepared to be surprised" day!

With love and many hugs,
Suzanne

[image: Facebook Card Happy Birthday Harrison.png]








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Re: [OSList] Good questions for a OS

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I don't remember how I came to this, but the phrase I often use is,  
"Broad enough to be inclusive and narrow enough to be actionable."


The often animated and intense dialogue that follows explores  
productive tensions and two core values: inclusivity and action -  
inclusion of people, inclusion of perspectives, and being able/willing  
to exercise passion and responsibility.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
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www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Craig Gilliam via OSList :

I do not post often, but I read the Open Space Posts regularly and  
find them thought-provoking and helpful. Thanks!



I practice Open Space in multiple contexts professionally and in my  
own person life. Am a strong believer in what it creates and invites  
from and out in others and myself. . .



When I begin with groups, I regularly hear, "What makes for a good  
question?" I have my responses, but want to hear what you have to  
say. I am looking for suggestions, thoughts, ideas, resources  
(books) etc., that you would recommend to help people/groups  
identify and write helpful/good theme/intention questions for OS  
conversation. What are the qualities of a good question, and what  
are some resources you suggest?



Invite your thoughts. Thanks to anyone who has some thoughts or  
suggestions on this.



Thanks,

Craig




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Re: [OSList] OST and what makes team work successful

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Marai,

Like Peggy Holamn, when I first encountered OST sometime in the  
mid-90s I was struck by the simplicity and the welcoming, inclusive  
spirit. Somewhat consistent with Harrison's observation, I find that  
what some people call safety is what others may experience as  
avoidance, denial, or external limit setting.


That is not to discount the notion of psychological safety, although,  
as gifted as Dr. Edmondson is, I suspect she did not coin the term. I  
was introduced to the concept in the late 70s, by people who had been  
using it for a long time in much the same way as you defined it. We  
were working with serious drug addicts, treatment people, judges and  
police officers (including narcotics agents) who we were engaging in  
dialogue about potential treatment strategies and public policy.  
Getting a "junkie" and a "narc" to meet together required creating  
psychologist safety and that's what we called it. I only wish I had  
learned about Bohm's Principles of Dialogue and Open Space back then.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Marai Kiele via OSList :


Dear colleagues,

Do you know what the core is, of what has drawn you to OST?

Last year I came across a word that describes both, a phenomena I  
have experienced and cherished in OST as well as something that has  
turned out to be a key ingredient to successful teams:


Psychological Safety

The term was coined by Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor of  
Leadership and Management, Harvard Business School.


It is referred to in a study by Google, which they undertook to  
understand what distinguishes their successful teams from those who  
do so-so.

Anyone interested in the subject? more here by Google:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZlSq_Hf08M

"Psychological Safety" means team members are safe to take risk and  
be vulnerable in front of others. They know it?s okay or even  
requested to speak up, disagree, admit mistakes, ask ?stupid?  
questions or share a crazy idea. All of this without the fear of  
loosing ?belonging? or lessen one's status within a group.


In the study this has proven to be by far the most important  
ingredient for successful team work, even more important than  
dependability, meaning, impact?


Years back, I found this beautifully described in other words by  
Tova Averbuch, in her TEDx talk ?Opening Space to Collective Wisdom?  
(hello Tova! :-) )
She opens with the words ?To be or to belong??a tension that I know  
very well: Being fully myself or belonging to a group seemed often  
in conflict. Especially during my time in the corporate world as a  
product manager. Tova describes how in OST she has found both  
together: ?being AND belonging". As I have, too.


Back to my opening question: Do you know what the core is, of what  
has drawn you to OST?


I have realised that the phrase ?psychological safety? describes  
that. That which is at the core of what has drawn me to OST.  
Something I am dedicated to since years. For myself and in creating  
spaces for others.


I am eager to explore this topic with others, both on this list as  
in real time conversations. I?ll post a session in tomorrows  
?Tuesday Open Space Hotline?.
Anyone else interested in this topic, please come to the OS Hotline  
OR write on this list OR reach out to me directly.


From a sunny and cold evening in Bielefeld, Germany,
Marai

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Re: [OSList] OST encourages avoidance of conflict (a bit long)

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Harrison, et al.

It's been a while since I checked in, but this thread brought back many 
fond memories of several OST events over the years, and one in particular.


It's been many years since I was contacted by a group that included 
multiple coalitions of mental health professionals, administrators, and 
policy makers from throughout Ohio. At the time, local urban and local 
rural leaders of county mental health boards were battling with each 
other and state mental health officials over what was described as 
inequitable, differential funding of urban and rural systems by the 
state. One of the local coalitions had an active lawsuit pending against 
the state over inequitable funding. At that point the lawsuit had been 
pending for several years.


However, the reason they contacted me was that the state legislature had 
initiated legislation on a particular policy that each of the three 
groups found problematic for different reasons. Several of them had 
experienced OST in other settings and thought it might be a way sort 
things out on the legislative issue.


During the planning process we spent quite a bit of time 
considering/testing potential questions to frame an inclusive invitation 
to a wide variety of people concerned about the issue. Several times 
during the planning process members of the planning group made it clear 
that they did not want to take on the other issues and that they 
expected me to "manage" that "problem." I kept saying that, whatever 
question we arrived at, I couldn't promise the other topics wouldn't 
come up if it was important to people at the event. I did say that I 
thought the organizing question they landed on seemed inclusive and that 
they would quite likely end up someplace that would help them advance 
their cause.


The day we were opening space, with about 100 people attending, the 
bulletin board filled up with all kinds of good stuff. As you might 
predict, most of the topics were on the legislation, but some of the 
topics were related to inequitable funding. A few of their planners 
continued to be frustrated and approached me. I advised that they each 
think about what they felt passionate about and were willing to accept 
responsibility for working on... and then vote with their feet. The 
first day people worked on what they cared about, with most focusing on 
the legislation. Some people stayed irritated, but those few working on 
inequitable funding seemed to be really listening to one another in 
their sessions. The next day work continued on the legislation, building 
on work from the day before. However, as the morning evolved I noticed 
and increasing amount of bee and butterfly activity, much more than I 
was used to seeing. I listened in on some of the conversations and the 
talk was about equitable funding (not inequitable funding). At the time 
I said the air was electric - but sizzles works. After lunch most of the 
participants attended one huge session that had been posted as funding 
related. In the next 90 minutes they came to common ground on an 
approach to addressing funding issues!


My take on the closing circle was that 4 themes emerged. One was that 
working together on the legislation reminded all of them what they all 
felt passion about - providing community based options for individuals 
and families experiencing the effects of mental illness. Another theme 
was how good they felt about working together again after so many 
years... they remembered the "good old days" that had brought them 
together so many years ago. Third, they realized that, for quite a 
while, there had been some people who had been ready to engage in 
dialogue about funding, but hadn't found a nontoxic space to do so in... 
until then. Finally, they noticed the paradox I suspect all of us have 
experienced in one form or another... when they stopped thinking about 
the "problem" or "the conflict" or the toxicity they had all come to 
accept as "normal," something else showed up!


The results? During the next several weeks they each did their part in 
preparing to address the legislature. After the legislative hearings, 
about 6 weeks after the OST, the legislature shifted its approach. 
That's lightening speed when addressing a complicated, statewide public 
policy and fiscal issue in a volatile political and economic 
environment. Within about 6 months of the OST the lawsuit (the one they 
wanted me to make sure didn't get discussed) was resolved and a 
collaborative group had developed options that all could all invest in.


Harrison described organizations without conflict as dead. I agree. One 
way I think of conflict is: the opportunity for diverse groups of 
passionate people who really care about what they are doing, are 
invested in taking responsibility for what they are doing, and (not 
but), have very different perspectives about what is going on, what to 
make of it and what, if anything, to do about it. From my perspective, 
in a world 

Re: [OSList] Lisa Carlson

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I met Lisa Kimble and Harrison the same day, thanks to Ralph Copleman.  
Ralph had suggested I attend a meeting that was going to be conducted  
using a self organizing process. It seems to me it was about 1992,  
give or take a year or two.


I was instantly drawn to both people as people more than as advocates  
for any methodology. Lisa enriched my life over these years, asking me  
tough questions as recently as this year at a Plexus meeting.


Her role in the MetaNetwork also made a difference in my life. As  
someone who built my career in the f2f world, at that time I saw  
computers as fancy typewriters, calculators, and encyclopedias. The  
MetaNet allowed me to stay connected to people with whom I shared many  
interests.


Then came the first online OST, hosted by the MetaNet. As I shared  
with Lisa after the event, I signed up in part because I trusted that  
Lisa would only host a worthwhile event, but my f2f roots told me  
there was something inherently limiting about such an event. On some  
level I wanted to confirm my suspicions. Halfway through Day 2 I  
realized I was fully engaged. I had to let go of my resistance.


Another place our lives intersected was ACENet, an organization based  
in Ohio that was doing amazing things in Appalachia, led by another  
great woman, and friend of Lisa's, June Holley. [BTW, ACENet is still  
making a difference in the world.]


Working on projects with Lisa was always a learning experience, as  
well as a chance make the world a better place in some way. Whether it  
was OST, the MetaNet, ACENet, Plexus, or a long talk about the ways of  
the world over coffee, she made it special. Lisa is on a relatively  
short list of people who inspired me and enriched my life  
professionally and personally.


May her memory be a blessing to us all.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Harrison Owen via OSList :


Old timers among you will remember Lisa Carlson. She reportedly died this
morning. Lisa had been less than well for a long time. She was an old friend
of mine and a founding partner of TMN (The MetaNetwork). A path maker in
electronic networking and an early openspacer. She will be missed.



Harrison



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Re: [OSList] Globalization, open space and Open Space ! ?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

This Thor Heyerdahl quote reminds me of a more whimsical musical take  
from the past


https://vimeo.com/4919096

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
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Quoting Bhavesh Patel via OSList :


Reminded me of this quote:

?Borders I have never seen one. But I have heard they exist in the minds of
some people.?



*Thor Heyerdahl*


On 8 January 2017 at 17:00, Harrison Owen via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:


*Globalization*. For some people this word describes Opportunity. For
others, Disaster. Both are correct, I believe.



Stripped to essence, Globalization means that the artificial (as in
manmade) barriers and boundaries which divide our planet are dissolving,
thereby revealing our natural, global unity. For better or for worse.
Nation States, Business Enterprises, Tribal Territories, Religions,
Cultures ?. Are all becoming more porous, interconnected, and increasingly
irrelevant to the emerging life form of *Homo sapiens* ? otherwise known
as Us, and the way we live.



Nobody planned  Globalization, nobody runs it, although lots of folks are
claiming credit or passing blame. The actual causes are multiple, including
the Internet, global transportation, telephones, TV, FAX, the printing
press, etc, etc? to name just a few. But the really funny part is  --
Globalization is nothing new. We have always been one planet/globe ? a fact
the astronauts recognized with some wonder and shock. Seen from space, none
of the barriers and boundaries, which seem so important to us, show up.
They are all in our mind. You might think of Globalization as a
psychosomatic healing! It might also be that we are simply getting back to
normal.



The Disaster/Opportunity Reactions are real and important. When all of the
defining characteristics of our world become fuzzy or invisible ? it is
incredibly hard to know who you are. And if nobody and nothing tells you
who you are, I guess that is real open space. Terrifying! A genuine
Disaster --  with capital ?D.? It is no wonder that those who find
themselves in such a mess (which is pretty much all of us) are angry,
aggressive, apparently irrational ? and willing to listen to anybody who
promises Stability and the ?Return to the Normal.? As in, ?Make America (or
choose another country) Great Again!?



For those viewing Globalization as an Opportunity ? that too is real. The
elimination of illusory barriers and boundaries offers the potential for a
radical increase of efficiency, effectiveness, and profitability (if those
are your goals) as well as creativity and the capacity share the load and
support our fellows in times of need. When the full diversity of humanity
is brought to bear on the issues at hand, the collective power is immense.



But there is a serious caveat.

This is not an Either/Or.

Both/And?For sure!



The Opportunity is real. The Disaster also. Both are present. Both must be
dealt with.



Perhaps this sounds novel and shocking ? but truthfully the recognition of
this polarity is ancient. The Yin and the Yang, Shiva as creator and
destroyer, The Chinese symbol for Chaos combines two symbols, Disaster and
Opportunity, I?m told. To which we might add the modern newcomer,
Chaos/Emergence Theory. Old story in new attire.



So what do you do?



I think our 32 year experiment with Open Space offers some suggestions. At
least it might be a good place to start the conversation.



Interested?



Harrison







Winter Address

7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

301-365-2093



Summer Address

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Camden, ME 04843

207 763-3261



Websites

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www.ho-image.com



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Re: [OSList] Globalization, open space and Open Space ! ?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Thank you Harrison, for such a concise and clear summary. Your framing  
fits my beliefs and biases. Over the years people who know me as a  
consultant, family member or friend are used to hearing me ask about  
exploring the both/and perspective in the context of all the either/or  
thinking we are surrounded by in so many parts of the world.


I am interested in your invitation and see it as an opportunity to  
reenter the world of OST beyond my own work and community.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
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254 South Merkle Road
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fax 614-237-2347
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Quoting Harrison Owen via OSList :


Globalization. For some people this word describes Opportunity. For others,
Disaster. Both are correct, I believe.



Stripped to essence, Globalization means that the artificial (as in manmade)
barriers and boundaries which divide our planet are dissolving, thereby
revealing our natural, global unity. For better or for worse. Nation States,
Business Enterprises, Tribal Territories, Religions, Cultures .. Are all
becoming more porous, interconnected, and increasingly irrelevant to the
emerging life form of Homo sapiens - otherwise known as Us, and the way we
live.



Nobody planned  Globalization, nobody runs it, although lots of folks are
claiming credit or passing blame. The actual causes are multiple, including
the Internet, global transportation, telephones, TV, FAX, the printing
press, etc, etc. to name just a few. But the really funny part is  --
Globalization is nothing new. We have always been one planet/globe - a fact
the astronauts recognized with some wonder and shock. Seen from space, none
of the barriers and boundaries, which seem so important to us, show up. They
are all in our mind. You might think of Globalization as a psychosomatic
healing! It might also be that we are simply getting back to normal.



The Disaster/Opportunity Reactions are real and important. When all of the
defining characteristics of our world become fuzzy or invisible - it is
incredibly hard to know who you are. And if nobody and nothing tells you who
you are, I guess that is real open space. Terrifying! A genuine Disaster --
with capital "D." It is no wonder that those who find themselves in such a
mess (which is pretty much all of us) are angry, aggressive, apparently
irrational - and willing to listen to anybody who promises Stability and the
"Return to the Normal." As in, "Make America (or choose another country)
Great Again!"



For those viewing Globalization as an Opportunity - that too is real. The
elimination of illusory barriers and boundaries offers the potential for a
radical increase of efficiency, effectiveness, and profitability (if those
are your goals) as well as creativity and the capacity share the load and
support our fellows in times of need. When the full diversity of humanity is
brought to bear on the issues at hand, the collective power is immense.



But there is a serious caveat.

This is not an Either/Or.

Both/And.For sure!



The Opportunity is real. The Disaster also. Both are present. Both must be
dealt with.



Perhaps this sounds novel and shocking - but truthfully the recognition of
this polarity is ancient. The Yin and the Yang, Shiva as creator and
destroyer, The Chinese symbol for Chaos combines two symbols, Disaster and
Opportunity, I'm told. To which we might add the modern newcomer,
Chaos/Emergence Theory. Old story in new attire.



So what do you do?



I think our 32 year experiment with Open Space offers some suggestions. At
least it might be a good place to start the conversation.



Interested?



Harrison







Winter Address

7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

301-365-2093



Summer Address

189 Beaucauire Ave

Camden, ME 04843

207 763-3261



Websites

www.openspaceworld.com

www.ho-image.com









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[OSList] Happy Birthday and a timely memory

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy birthday, Harrison.

You and the OSLIST continue to inspire me - even in my lurker role of  
recent years.


This year your birthday happens when many of us are still thinking,  
talking, wondering and lots of other ...ings about the US election.  
The memory this triggers for me is of the election night you spent at  
our house in Columbus 16 years ago.


We had combined an opening of space for Diane Bennett and Action for  
Children with a one day intro to OST before and after election day.  
(BTW, that work with early childhood education continues to grow,  
thrive, and influence others in ways we never imagined.)


Anyway, as the night got later and it was clear we were not going to  
know the outcome for quite some time (hanging chads in Florida and  
more mishigas). You decided to go to bed and, as you left the family  
room you complained light-heartedly, "I don't know if I've been  
Bush-whacked or Gored."


The last 16 years brought us challenges and opportunities none of us  
imagined at that time. Many of the opportunities grew out of how our  
work in particular communities (rooted in geography, professions,  
faith, culture, passion, responsibility, etc.) in the context of what  
was going on nationally and globally.


While I have many questions and concerns about the next 4 years in the  
US and beyond, this memory reminds me that (a) we will likely make it  
through whatever is to come, one way or another, and (b) that if we  
live in the spirit of OST and open our hearts, spirits and minds to  
one another we will find ways to open the space we need to make the  
best of it... whether that space opens in planned events or  
spontaneous, serendipitous moments of opportunity that occur  and that  
we will have made ourselves available to notice and take advantage of.


Best wishes, my friend.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
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Re: [OSList] In Search of Mentor to facilitate learning

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Tony,

It happens I live in Columbus and have done some work on occasion in  
Northeast Ohio, including a CDC in Youngstown. In addition, I will be  
Opening Space sometime in the fall in Columbus with a statewide  
nonprofit that has connections in your area. I would love to talk with  
you further. See my contact info below.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Tony Budak via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Hi everyone, Thanks for inviting me to Open Space, I?m very new to  
this concept process. I hope not only to learn this well enough but  
also to introduce the idea to my local region and it?s communities.


Is there an experienced Open Space facilitator in or near  
Youngstown, Ohio, that I could help me do an event here in the  
Mahoning Valley?

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[OSList] OST, Sustainability and The Book

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Good day, everybody.

Every so often I am asked about the sustainability of results from  
OST, even a single OST event. I am also asked why I am so committed to  
making sure The Book gets finished and distributed.


Recently a bit of synchronicity reenforced for me the confidence I  
have in the sustainability of the results of even one event.


About 15 years ago I opened space on two separate occasions leading up  
to the move of a museum to a new and very different location. Two  
particular (and very different) exhibits could be completely  
re-imagined in the new setting. The lead design person for each of the  
two exhibits asked me to Open Space to invite input for the design of  
each exhibit. She used the input of the two very different events in  
the designs.


I recently took my granddaughter to that museum and I noticed that one  
of the exhibits (known popularly as little kid space) remains very  
popular and has remained relatively unchanged. The other space has  
evolved considerably over time, but the underlying principles that  
drove the design remain evident in the exhibit.


Then I got a call from the same designer, who is now at another  
museum. She has asked me to open space for a much bigger design  
challenge. During a meeting of the team of people who will help craft  
the question that will frame the OST gathering I was asked about the  
sustainability of the results. I mentioned the recent visit to the  
group.


To my surprise the designer piped up and said she had recently been  
contacted by people who work at the first museum. They have continued  
to use the information in the books as part of their thinking in other  
work they do and needed a new copy of the originals!


Yup. The results are sustainable and The Book matters.
--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
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Re: [OSList] OST, Sustainability and The Book

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Following up on a couple of questions I received offline, my reference  
to the book is to the book of proceedings - the documentation of  
what happened in each session over the course of the event.

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Chris Kloth via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


Good day, everybody.

Every so often I am asked about the sustainability of results from  
OST, even a single OST event. I am also asked why I am so committed  
to making sure The Book gets finished and distributed.


Recently a bit of synchronicity reenforced for me the confidence I  
have in the sustainability of the results of even one event.


About 15 years ago I opened space on two separate occasions leading  
up to the move of a museum to a new and very different location. Two  
particular (and very different) exhibits could be completely  
re-imagined in the new setting. The lead design person for each of  
the two exhibits asked me to Open Space to invite input for the  
design of each exhibit. She used the input of the two very different  
events in the designs.


I recently took my granddaughter to that museum and I noticed that  
one of the exhibits (known popularly as little kid space) remains  
very popular and has remained relatively unchanged. The other space  
has evolved considerably over time, but the underlying principles  
that drove the design remain evident in the exhibit.


Then I got a call from the same designer, who is now at another  
museum. She has asked me to open space for a much bigger design  
challenge. During a meeting of the team of people who will help  
craft the question that will frame the OST gathering I was asked  
about the sustainability of the results. I mentioned the recent  
visit to the group.


To my surprise the designer piped up and said she had recently been  
contacted by people who work at the first museum. They have  
continued to use the information in the books as part of their  
thinking in other work they do and needed a new copy of the originals!


Yup. The results are sustainable and The Book matters.
--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
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Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I support those who have said that combining topics can be problematic  
for all the reasons already cited, and that the person opening the  
space certainly should not participate in any combining or sorting -  
even if they are familiar with the subject matter.


An additional bit of guidance I offer when participants are continuing  
to consider combining topics is this: After hearing whatever thoughts  
people share in advocating for combining topics it is, in the end, the  
decision of the person(s) who put the idea(s) up to decide if they are  
willing to have their idea combined or not. They have a right and  
responsibility to own and claim the meaning of their own topic. Two  
feet can be used to stand your ground.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Lisa Heft - via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Good points, all. Nigel, I’m also wondering about the physical  
space. For anything interactive, including Open Space - I look for a  
space that is at least 2x the size as the amount of expected  
participants. So many things inform all of this.


I am also wondering Nigel - how might you answer your own question?
Is there anything you think you might have done differently in this  
particular case, upon reflection?


Lisa

On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:30 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList  
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:


Nigel, a few thoughts. One is to find more session times during the  
day. You say there were three. How long was each session time? 90  
minutes can be shortened to 75 minutes for example. Could there be  
a fourth time added? How about a 'working lunch'?


I would not be concerned about the large number of issues leading  
to fragmentation. If people care, the conversations are all  
important.


I do wonder if the theme is too broad and is not helping to focus  
people's attention on the purpose of the meeting. If not, no problem.


And I'm curious about the design of the closing and the 'harvest'  
documentation to serve the purpose.


Another idea is: if that many passionate issues come forth to be  
engaged, the sponsor might agree on two days next time!


Jeff


 Original message 
From: NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList
Date:01/27/2015 9:51 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: mmpannw...@gmail.com,'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
Subject: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

Michael

I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a really
interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate for your
thoughts
In a couple of recent events - with the issues and opportunities in the
title and the invitation to raise any issues or topics the participants feel
strongly about - I have found myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above the 60
odd issues20 plus breakout groups per session?

I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 'new' groups
and a day what have others done?
My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ groups per
session the fragmented nature would mean limited results

I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love about it)
but it's hard

And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?

Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia

Nigel

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Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

Dear Susan,

yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.

Jeffs response on combining or abandoning topics got me to reflect on
the word topic. From work wayback with structured brainstorming I
remember a group of 25 generating between 30 to 50 

[OSList] OST, Sustainability and The Book

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Good day, everybody.

Every so often I am asked about the sustainability of results from  
OST, even a single OST event. I am also asked why I am so committed to  
making sure The Book gets finished and distributed.


Recently a bit of synchronicity reenforced for me the confidence I  
have in the sustainability of the results of even one event.


About 15 years ago I opened space on two separate occasions leading up  
to the move of a museum to a new and very different location. Two  
particular (and very different) exhibits could be completely  
re-imagined in the new setting. The lead design person for each of the  
two exhibits asked me to Open Space to invite input for the design of  
each exhibit. She used the input of the two very different events in  
the designs.


I recently took my granddaughter to that museum and I noticed that one  
of the exhibits (known popularly as little kid space) remains very  
popular and has remained relatively unchanged. The other space has  
evolved considerably over time, but the underlying principles that  
drove the design remain evident in the exhibit.


Then I got a call from the same designer, who is now at another  
museum. She has asked me to open space for a much bigger design  
challenge. During a meeting of the team of people who will help craft  
the question that will frame the OST gathering I was asked about the  
sustainability of the results. I mentioned the recent visit to the  
group.


To my surprise the designer piped up and said she had recently been  
contacted by people who work at the first museum. They have continued  
to use the information in the books as part of their thinking in other  
work they do and needed a new copy of the originals!


Yup. The results are sustainable and The Book matters.
--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
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Re: [OSList] OST, Sustainability and The Book

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Following up on a couple of questions I received offline, my reference  
to the book is to the book of proceedings - the documentation of  
what happened in each session over the course of the event.

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Chris Kloth via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


Good day, everybody.

Every so often I am asked about the sustainability of results from  
OST, even a single OST event. I am also asked why I am so committed  
to making sure The Book gets finished and distributed.


Recently a bit of synchronicity reenforced for me the confidence I  
have in the sustainability of the results of even one event.


About 15 years ago I opened space on two separate occasions leading  
up to the move of a museum to a new and very different location. Two  
particular (and very different) exhibits could be completely  
re-imagined in the new setting. The lead design person for each of  
the two exhibits asked me to Open Space to invite input for the  
design of each exhibit. She used the input of the two very different  
events in the designs.


I recently took my granddaughter to that museum and I noticed that  
one of the exhibits (known popularly as little kid space) remains  
very popular and has remained relatively unchanged. The other space  
has evolved considerably over time, but the underlying principles  
that drove the design remain evident in the exhibit.


Then I got a call from the same designer, who is now at another  
museum. She has asked me to open space for a much bigger design  
challenge. During a meeting of the team of people who will help  
craft the question that will frame the OST gathering I was asked  
about the sustainability of the results. I mentioned the recent  
visit to the group.


To my surprise the designer piped up and said she had recently been  
contacted by people who work at the first museum. They have  
continued to use the information in the books as part of their  
thinking in other work they do and needed a new copy of the originals!


Yup. The results are sustainable and The Book matters.
--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

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Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I support those who have said that combining topics can be problematic  
for all the reasons already cited, and that the person opening the  
space certainly should not participate in any combining or sorting -  
even if they are familiar with the subject matter.


An additional bit of guidance I offer when participants are continuing  
to consider combining topics is this: After hearing whatever thoughts  
people share in advocating for combining topics it is, in the end, the  
decision of the person(s) who put the idea(s) up to decide if they are  
willing to have their idea combined or not. They have a right and  
responsibility to own and claim the meaning of their own topic. Two  
feet can be used to stand your ground.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Lisa Heft - via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Good points, all. Nigel, I’m also wondering about the physical  
space. For anything interactive, including Open Space - I look for a  
space that is at least 2x the size as the amount of expected  
participants. So many things inform all of this.


I am also wondering Nigel - how might you answer your own question?
Is there anything you think you might have done differently in this  
particular case, upon reflection?


Lisa

On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:30 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList  
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:


Nigel, a few thoughts. One is to find more session times during the  
day. You say there were three. How long was each session time? 90  
minutes can be shortened to 75 minutes for example. Could there be  
a fourth time added? How about a 'working lunch'?


I would not be concerned about the large number of issues leading  
to fragmentation. If people care, the conversations are all  
important.


I do wonder if the theme is too broad and is not helping to focus  
people's attention on the purpose of the meeting. If not, no problem.


And I'm curious about the design of the closing and the 'harvest'  
documentation to serve the purpose.


Another idea is: if that many passionate issues come forth to be  
engaged, the sponsor might agree on two days next time!


Jeff


 Original message 
From: NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList
Date:01/27/2015 9:51 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: mmpannw...@gmail.com,'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
Subject: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

Michael

I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a really
interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate for your
thoughts
In a couple of recent events - with the issues and opportunities in the
title and the invitation to raise any issues or topics the participants feel
strongly about - I have found myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above the 60
odd issues20 plus breakout groups per session?

I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 'new' groups
and a day what have others done?
My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ groups per
session the fragmented nature would mean limited results

I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love about it)
but it's hard

And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?

Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia

Nigel

Nigel Seys-Phillips
Fulcrum Business Management Solutions
Tel: +65 9639 2510
E-mail: ni...@fulcrum.com.sg
www.fulcrum.com.sg

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Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

Dear Susan,

yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.

Jeffs response on combining or abandoning topics got me to reflect on
the word topic. From work wayback with structured brainstorming I
remember a group of 25 generating between 30 to 50 

[OSList] OST, Sustainability and The Book

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Good day, everybody.

Every so often I am asked about the sustainability of results from  
OST, even a single OST event. I am also asked why I am so committed to  
making sure The Book gets finished and distributed.


Recently a bit of synchronicity reenforced for me the confidence I  
have in the sustainability of the results of even one event.


About 15 years ago I opened space on two separate occasions leading up  
to the move of a museum to a new and very different location. Two  
particular (and very different) exhibits could be completely  
re-imagined in the new setting. The lead design person for each of the  
two exhibits asked me to Open Space to invite input for the design of  
each exhibit. She used the input of the two very different events in  
the designs.


I recently took my granddaughter to that museum and I noticed that one  
of the exhibits (known popularly as little kid space) remains very  
popular and has remained relatively unchanged. The other space has  
evolved considerably over time, but the underlying principles that  
drove the design remain evident in the exhibit.


Then I got a call from the same designer, who is now at another  
museum. She has asked me to open space for a much bigger design  
challenge. During a meeting of the team of people who will help craft  
the question that will frame the OST gathering I was asked about the  
sustainability of the results. I mentioned the recent visit to the  
group.


To my surprise the designer piped up and said she had recently been  
contacted by people who work at the first museum. They have continued  
to use the information in the books as part of their thinking in other  
work they do and needed a new copy of the originals!


Yup. The results are sustainable and The Book matters.
--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
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Re: [OSList] OST, Sustainability and The Book

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Following up on a couple of questions I received offline, my reference  
to the book is to the book of proceedings - the documentation of  
what happened in each session over the course of the event.

--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Chris Kloth via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


Good day, everybody.

Every so often I am asked about the sustainability of results from  
OST, even a single OST event. I am also asked why I am so committed  
to making sure The Book gets finished and distributed.


Recently a bit of synchronicity reenforced for me the confidence I  
have in the sustainability of the results of even one event.


About 15 years ago I opened space on two separate occasions leading  
up to the move of a museum to a new and very different location. Two  
particular (and very different) exhibits could be completely  
re-imagined in the new setting. The lead design person for each of  
the two exhibits asked me to Open Space to invite input for the  
design of each exhibit. She used the input of the two very different  
events in the designs.


I recently took my granddaughter to that museum and I noticed that  
one of the exhibits (known popularly as little kid space) remains  
very popular and has remained relatively unchanged. The other space  
has evolved considerably over time, but the underlying principles  
that drove the design remain evident in the exhibit.


Then I got a call from the same designer, who is now at another  
museum. She has asked me to open space for a much bigger design  
challenge. During a meeting of the team of people who will help  
craft the question that will frame the OST gathering I was asked  
about the sustainability of the results. I mentioned the recent  
visit to the group.


To my surprise the designer piped up and said she had recently been  
contacted by people who work at the first museum. They have  
continued to use the information in the books as part of their  
thinking in other work they do and needed a new copy of the originals!


Yup. The results are sustainable and The Book matters.
--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.






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Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I support those who have said that combining topics can be problematic  
for all the reasons already cited, and that the person opening the  
space certainly should not participate in any combining or sorting -  
even if they are familiar with the subject matter.


An additional bit of guidance I offer when participants are continuing  
to consider combining topics is this: After hearing whatever thoughts  
people share in advocating for combining topics it is, in the end, the  
decision of the person(s) who put the idea(s) up to decide if they are  
willing to have their idea combined or not. They have a right and  
responsibility to own and claim the meaning of their own topic. Two  
feet can be used to stand your ground.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Lisa Heft - via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Good points, all. Nigel, I’m also wondering about the physical  
space. For anything interactive, including Open Space - I look for a  
space that is at least 2x the size as the amount of expected  
participants. So many things inform all of this.


I am also wondering Nigel - how might you answer your own question?
Is there anything you think you might have done differently in this  
particular case, upon reflection?


Lisa

On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:30 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList  
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:


Nigel, a few thoughts. One is to find more session times during the  
day. You say there were three. How long was each session time? 90  
minutes can be shortened to 75 minutes for example. Could there be  
a fourth time added? How about a 'working lunch'?


I would not be concerned about the large number of issues leading  
to fragmentation. If people care, the conversations are all  
important.


I do wonder if the theme is too broad and is not helping to focus  
people's attention on the purpose of the meeting. If not, no problem.


And I'm curious about the design of the closing and the 'harvest'  
documentation to serve the purpose.


Another idea is: if that many passionate issues come forth to be  
engaged, the sponsor might agree on two days next time!


Jeff


 Original message 
From: NigelSeys-Phillips via OSList
Date:01/27/2015 9:51 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: mmpannw...@gmail.com,'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
Subject: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

Michael

I have been actively wondering about this recently and after a really
interesting OS two weeks ago with a local bank I appreciate for your
thoughts
In a couple of recent events - with the issues and opportunities in the
title and the invitation to raise any issues or topics the participants feel
strongly about - I have found myself (well, with assistance) almost 'forced'
to combine as mathematically there were just too many!
With three sessions available and some 70 people we were well above the 60
odd issues20 plus breakout groups per session?

I know, I know - stand back and let them sort it out...but with 'new' groups
and a day what have others done?
My fear is allocating every single topic a breakout space and 20+ groups per
session the fragmented nature would mean limited results

I know, I know - stand back and trust the system.
I am trying (I totally do trust the system which is what I love about it)
but it's hard

And I really would welcome anybody's thoughts - what do I do next time?

Best regards from a hot and steamy Malaysia

Nigel

Nigel Seys-Phillips
Fulcrum Business Management Solutions
Tel: +65 9639 2510
E-mail: ni...@fulcrum.com.sg
www.fulcrum.com.sg

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Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 6:55 PM
To: Susan Partnow; World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Anticipating number of topics/sessions...

Dear Susan,

yes, thats my feeling too, 15 to 20 breakout spaces for 30 to 40 issues.

Jeffs response on combining or abandoning topics got me to reflect on
the word topic. From work wayback with structured brainstorming I
remember a group of 25 generating between 30 to 50 

Re: [OSList] When did you first hear about OST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I first learned about OST through Ralph Copleman. We had met through  
our Future Search work and hit it off immediately. Sometime around  
1992-1994 he suggested my colleague, Terry Swango, and I come to this  
event that he and his colleagues were hosting focused on org  
transformation, something called Open Space and a lot of good people.  
We attended and the the next stage of our journey began that weekend.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


*The OST-When Game
*

{

Inspired by Michael Herman:

On 12/14/14 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:

i'm ... interested in questions like:

1. *when did you first hear about os or ost?
*

2. what was the hook?  how did you notice it might have value?

3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?

4. what has happened since then?  what difference does it seem to make?


From the thread,  [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events??

}

You are cordially invited to play:

*The OST-When Game*


*The Goal:*

·_To get a collective idea_of when  how members here actually  
became aware of OST, noting any patterns and how these patterns may  
(or may not) be changing over time.


·_To know the stories_of others, and (optionally, if you choose to  
play,) to disclose your own story.


*The Rules:*

·If you know anything at all about OST, as described below, you are  
invited to play.


·You play the game by answering in reply to the question:

//

/?When did you first hear about OST?/?

·If you opt-in to playing, then: /for purposes of playing this  
game/, you are joining with all the other players, in explicitly  
authorizing, consenting to (and in fact agreeing to) the definition  
of OST that this game uses, listed below in the Notes section.


·Beyond this, nothing further is expected of you, and there are  
absolutely no other rules whatsoever.



*Tracking Progress:*
You can track progress by watching the various properties of the  
thread, such as:


·# of stories, the length or brevity of stories,

·the tone/tempo/velocity/volume of replies, # of countries heard from,

·levels of seriousness, or humor or,

·absolutely anything else you might be paying attention to as people play it.

*Play*:

·Playing this game is 100% invitational and therefore 100%  
optional?if you know about OST, you are invited to play!


*Notes*:

 * This is the link to the definition of OST that this game is using:
 * http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
 * If you elect to play, please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply
   List], so the thread stays together, under the same subject


*Steps to Play:*

 * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]
 * Reply with your When-story


What happens next is?well? anyone?s guess.

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog  
http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter  
http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.


Examine my new book:The Culture Game  
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the  
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/


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Re: [OSList] When did you first hear about OST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I first learned about OST through Ralph Copleman. We had met through  
our Future Search work and hit it off immediately. Sometime around  
1992-1994 he suggested my colleague, Terry Swango, and I come to this  
event that he and his colleagues were hosting focused on org  
transformation, something called Open Space and a lot of good people.  
We attended and the the next stage of our journey began that weekend.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


*The OST-When Game
*

{

Inspired by Michael Herman:

On 12/14/14 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:

i'm ... interested in questions like:

1. *when did you first hear about os or ost?
*

2. what was the hook?  how did you notice it might have value?

3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?

4. what has happened since then?  what difference does it seem to make?


From the thread,  [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events??

}

You are cordially invited to play:

*The OST-When Game*


*The Goal:*

·_To get a collective idea_of when  how members here actually  
became aware of OST, noting any patterns and how these patterns may  
(or may not) be changing over time.


·_To know the stories_of others, and (optionally, if you choose to  
play,) to disclose your own story.


*The Rules:*

·If you know anything at all about OST, as described below, you are  
invited to play.


·You play the game by answering in reply to the question:

//

/?When did you first hear about OST?/?

·If you opt-in to playing, then: /for purposes of playing this  
game/, you are joining with all the other players, in explicitly  
authorizing, consenting to (and in fact agreeing to) the definition  
of OST that this game uses, listed below in the Notes section.


·Beyond this, nothing further is expected of you, and there are  
absolutely no other rules whatsoever.



*Tracking Progress:*
You can track progress by watching the various properties of the  
thread, such as:


·# of stories, the length or brevity of stories,

·the tone/tempo/velocity/volume of replies, # of countries heard from,

·levels of seriousness, or humor or,

·absolutely anything else you might be paying attention to as people play it.

*Play*:

·Playing this game is 100% invitational and therefore 100%  
optional?if you know about OST, you are invited to play!


*Notes*:

 * This is the link to the definition of OST that this game is using:
 * http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
 * If you elect to play, please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply
   List], so the thread stays together, under the same subject


*Steps to Play:*

 * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]
 * Reply with your When-story


What happens next is?well? anyone?s guess.

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog  
http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter  
http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.


Examine my new book:The Culture Game  
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the  
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/


Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/Community.







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Re: [OSList] When did you first hear about OST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I first learned about OST through Ralph Copleman. We had met through  
our Future Search work and hit it off immediately. Sometime around  
1992-1994 he suggested my colleague, Terry Swango, and I come to this  
event that he and his colleagues were hosting focused on org  
transformation, something called Open Space and a lot of good people.  
We attended and the the next stage of our journey began that weekend.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


*The OST-When Game
*

{

Inspired by Michael Herman:

On 12/14/14 11:26 AM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:

i'm ... interested in questions like:

1. *when did you first hear about os or ost?
*

2. what was the hook?  how did you notice it might have value?

3. when did you notice that you'd started letting it inform how you live?

4. what has happened since then?  what difference does it seem to make?


From the thread,  [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events??

}

You are cordially invited to play:

*The OST-When Game*


*The Goal:*

·_To get a collective idea_of when  how members here actually  
became aware of OST, noting any patterns and how these patterns may  
(or may not) be changing over time.


·_To know the stories_of others, and (optionally, if you choose to  
play,) to disclose your own story.


*The Rules:*

·If you know anything at all about OST, as described below, you are  
invited to play.


·You play the game by answering in reply to the question:

//

/?When did you first hear about OST?/?

·If you opt-in to playing, then: /for purposes of playing this  
game/, you are joining with all the other players, in explicitly  
authorizing, consenting to (and in fact agreeing to) the definition  
of OST that this game uses, listed below in the Notes section.


·Beyond this, nothing further is expected of you, and there are  
absolutely no other rules whatsoever.



*Tracking Progress:*
You can track progress by watching the various properties of the  
thread, such as:


·# of stories, the length or brevity of stories,

·the tone/tempo/velocity/volume of replies, # of countries heard from,

·levels of seriousness, or humor or,

·absolutely anything else you might be paying attention to as people play it.

*Play*:

·Playing this game is 100% invitational and therefore 100%  
optional?if you know about OST, you are invited to play!


*Notes*:

 * This is the link to the definition of OST that this game is using:
 * http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
 * If you elect to play, please reply by clicking [Reply All] Or [Reply
   List], so the thread stays together, under the same subject


*Steps to Play:*

 * Click [Reply All] Or [Reply List]
 * Reply with your When-story


What happens next is?well? anyone?s guess.

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog  
http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter  
http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.


Examine my new book:The Culture Game  
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the  
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/


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Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

hmmm... interesting question that I am not sure quite what to make  
of... over the years I have often thought of the questions of how many  
participants or how many events as a little like talk in an adolescent  
boys locker room. That said, I know the size question has lots of  
implications in the moment when we are doing the work.


When people ask or comment on how small an open space I get especially  
puzzled.  I guess over the years I have found my thinking (evolving or  
devolving or both - I don't know) torn between


 - size being a function of getting the widest cross-section of  
people needed to address the question(s) at hand in a meaningful way,  
not necessarily the absolute number, and


 - doing work with clients in ways that embody the spirit of OST  
without regard for naming every gathering an open space. (HO, what  
is the Anglican take on Wherever two or more are gathered in my  
name...?)


So, while someone posted that I may have held the record for largest  
at some point in time, I can't tell you off hand how many was my  
largest gathering of the right people. Also, while in the nineties I  
think I was involved in about 4 a year of at least 30 or more, and in  
this century I seem to do at least one or two of 30 or more per  
year... so I suppose my number is over 50 and less than 100.


However, what I really value and take a small amount of pride in  
(after all - they did the work) is the profound, sustainable change  
that has occurred in a number of communities and organizations over  
the years.


One of my early childhood education clients, after nearly 20 years,  
continues to do OST events from time to time when a particular  
question arises that they want to make sure to engage a wide range of  
perspectives. People come from all over the world to learn what they  
are up to. More importantly, I notice staff members who were not  
around when I was there much more frequently saying and dong things  
congruent with the spirit of OST.


In fact a few weeks ago the leader said to me that her biggest new  
challenge is that her staff keeps organizing itself to address issues  
on behalf of children and families without including her or other  
supervisors in the loop. Because her lead agency is levy funded, and  
some of her partners are very heavily regulated, she does need to know  
that the work won't create problems in the external worlds. Her  
solution is not to make sure particular people get included (although  
they are sometimes the right people and included for that reason). Her  
solution is to arrange professional development to help them put their  
work in the larger context.


In the spring I will be opening space for a client who has brought OST  
to every place she works and she is in another new workplace. Again,  
the results of her work has had lasting significance... I recently  
took my granddaughter to one of the museums the client worked at and  
could see signs of lasting impact in what has not changed and what has  
changed since we did that work together 15 years ago.


What I also think about is the power of opening space to help people  
talk with on another differently. Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker and I  
worked an OST for an industrial abrasives business conducted in two  
locations simultaneously. Before lunch on the first day I witnessed a  
pretty gritty (literally) guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled in his  
t-shirt sleeve analyze a benefits question for an HR VP (who had said  
to me earlier that this was the one issue he did not want addressed  
and was not happy I would not make that promise). My guy was not the  
only one to raise the issue, but when the company president saw that  
the issue was important to people in both locations he acknowledged  
its importance before we started after lunch. By the end of the day he  
said he could and would do what had been suggested.


In another setting an OST on one topic resulted in the resolution of  
an unrelated, long standing lawsuit among several of the participants  
- a law suit that had affected many thousands of people suffering from  
mental illness.


So, when I am lurking one of the things I most love reading about is  
the profound impact many of you have had through your very important  
work by getting the right people in the room, however many people that  
is.


And even if you only open space one time, if your work made a  
sustainable difference wherever you opened space then you were the  
right person doing the right work at the right time.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.

...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of  
experience being reported!


So interesting ... so much depth.  Seems 

Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

hmmm... interesting question that I am not sure quite what to make  
of... over the years I have often thought of the questions of how many  
participants or how many events as a little like talk in an adolescent  
boys locker room. That said, I know the size question has lots of  
implications in the moment when we are doing the work.


When people ask or comment on how small an open space I get especially  
puzzled.  I guess over the years I have found my thinking (evolving or  
devolving or both - I don't know) torn between


 - size being a function of getting the widest cross-section of  
people needed to address the question(s) at hand in a meaningful way,  
not necessarily the absolute number, and


 - doing work with clients in ways that embody the spirit of OST  
without regard for naming every gathering an open space. (HO, what  
is the Anglican take on Wherever two or more are gathered in my  
name...?)


So, while someone posted that I may have held the record for largest  
at some point in time, I can't tell you off hand how many was my  
largest gathering of the right people. Also, while in the nineties I  
think I was involved in about 4 a year of at least 30 or more, and in  
this century I seem to do at least one or two of 30 or more per  
year... so I suppose my number is over 50 and less than 100.


However, what I really value and take a small amount of pride in  
(after all - they did the work) is the profound, sustainable change  
that has occurred in a number of communities and organizations over  
the years.


One of my early childhood education clients, after nearly 20 years,  
continues to do OST events from time to time when a particular  
question arises that they want to make sure to engage a wide range of  
perspectives. People come from all over the world to learn what they  
are up to. More importantly, I notice staff members who were not  
around when I was there much more frequently saying and dong things  
congruent with the spirit of OST.


In fact a few weeks ago the leader said to me that her biggest new  
challenge is that her staff keeps organizing itself to address issues  
on behalf of children and families without including her or other  
supervisors in the loop. Because her lead agency is levy funded, and  
some of her partners are very heavily regulated, she does need to know  
that the work won't create problems in the external worlds. Her  
solution is not to make sure particular people get included (although  
they are sometimes the right people and included for that reason). Her  
solution is to arrange professional development to help them put their  
work in the larger context.


In the spring I will be opening space for a client who has brought OST  
to every place she works and she is in another new workplace. Again,  
the results of her work has had lasting significance... I recently  
took my granddaughter to one of the museums the client worked at and  
could see signs of lasting impact in what has not changed and what has  
changed since we did that work together 15 years ago.


What I also think about is the power of opening space to help people  
talk with on another differently. Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker and I  
worked an OST for an industrial abrasives business conducted in two  
locations simultaneously. Before lunch on the first day I witnessed a  
pretty gritty (literally) guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled in his  
t-shirt sleeve analyze a benefits question for an HR VP (who had said  
to me earlier that this was the one issue he did not want addressed  
and was not happy I would not make that promise). My guy was not the  
only one to raise the issue, but when the company president saw that  
the issue was important to people in both locations he acknowledged  
its importance before we started after lunch. By the end of the day he  
said he could and would do what had been suggested.


In another setting an OST on one topic resulted in the resolution of  
an unrelated, long standing lawsuit among several of the participants  
- a law suit that had affected many thousands of people suffering from  
mental illness.


So, when I am lurking one of the things I most love reading about is  
the profound impact many of you have had through your very important  
work by getting the right people in the room, however many people that  
is.


And even if you only open space one time, if your work made a  
sustainable difference wherever you opened space then you were the  
right person doing the right work at the right time.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.

...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of  
experience being reported!


So interesting ... so much depth.  Seems 

Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

hmmm... interesting question that I am not sure quite what to make  
of... over the years I have often thought of the questions of how many  
participants or how many events as a little like talk in an adolescent  
boys locker room. That said, I know the size question has lots of  
implications in the moment when we are doing the work.


When people ask or comment on how small an open space I get especially  
puzzled.  I guess over the years I have found my thinking (evolving or  
devolving or both - I don't know) torn between


 - size being a function of getting the widest cross-section of  
people needed to address the question(s) at hand in a meaningful way,  
not necessarily the absolute number, and


 - doing work with clients in ways that embody the spirit of OST  
without regard for naming every gathering an open space. (HO, what  
is the Anglican take on Wherever two or more are gathered in my  
name...?)


So, while someone posted that I may have held the record for largest  
at some point in time, I can't tell you off hand how many was my  
largest gathering of the right people. Also, while in the nineties I  
think I was involved in about 4 a year of at least 30 or more, and in  
this century I seem to do at least one or two of 30 or more per  
year... so I suppose my number is over 50 and less than 100.


However, what I really value and take a small amount of pride in  
(after all - they did the work) is the profound, sustainable change  
that has occurred in a number of communities and organizations over  
the years.


One of my early childhood education clients, after nearly 20 years,  
continues to do OST events from time to time when a particular  
question arises that they want to make sure to engage a wide range of  
perspectives. People come from all over the world to learn what they  
are up to. More importantly, I notice staff members who were not  
around when I was there much more frequently saying and dong things  
congruent with the spirit of OST.


In fact a few weeks ago the leader said to me that her biggest new  
challenge is that her staff keeps organizing itself to address issues  
on behalf of children and families without including her or other  
supervisors in the loop. Because her lead agency is levy funded, and  
some of her partners are very heavily regulated, she does need to know  
that the work won't create problems in the external worlds. Her  
solution is not to make sure particular people get included (although  
they are sometimes the right people and included for that reason). Her  
solution is to arrange professional development to help them put their  
work in the larger context.


In the spring I will be opening space for a client who has brought OST  
to every place she works and she is in another new workplace. Again,  
the results of her work has had lasting significance... I recently  
took my granddaughter to one of the museums the client worked at and  
could see signs of lasting impact in what has not changed and what has  
changed since we did that work together 15 years ago.


What I also think about is the power of opening space to help people  
talk with on another differently. Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker and I  
worked an OST for an industrial abrasives business conducted in two  
locations simultaneously. Before lunch on the first day I witnessed a  
pretty gritty (literally) guy with a pack of cigarettes rolled in his  
t-shirt sleeve analyze a benefits question for an HR VP (who had said  
to me earlier that this was the one issue he did not want addressed  
and was not happy I would not make that promise). My guy was not the  
only one to raise the issue, but when the company president saw that  
the issue was important to people in both locations he acknowledged  
its importance before we started after lunch. By the end of the day he  
said he could and would do what had been suggested.


In another setting an OST on one topic resulted in the resolution of  
an unrelated, long standing lawsuit among several of the participants  
- a law suit that had affected many thousands of people suffering from  
mental illness.


So, when I am lurking one of the things I most love reading about is  
the profound impact many of you have had through your very important  
work by getting the right people in the room, however many people that  
is.


And even if you only open space one time, if your work made a  
sustainable difference wherever you opened space then you were the  
right person doing the right work at the right time.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:


Hmmm, the the Lurker Game proved interesting.

...lots of seldom-heard-from voices! Quite a deep level of  
experience being reported!


So interesting ... so much depth.  Seems 

Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I am a regular lurker.

For many years I was an active participant. I have been doing OST and  
OST inspired work continuously for about 20 years and used to be an  
OSONOS regular. A few of the active participants will remember me.


Life got very complicated a number of years ago and, while I still do  
the work, I rarely feel comfortable adding my 2 cents. Occasionally  
offer my 2 bits... I guess that's what happens when interest accrues  
on my 2 cents over time.


I lurk to feel some sense of connection to the OST community and to be  
inspired by your work.



--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open  
Spaceand OSLIST


...the participants at the time were

Chuni Li
Daniel Mezick
Karen Davis
Linda Stevenson
Lucas Cioffi
Paul Levy
Peggy Holman
Skye Hirst
Suzanne Daigle
Tricia Chirumbole
Harold Shinsato

We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not  
actually be very easy to figure out...


...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of  
members, with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply  
with anything close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with  
highly authoritative voices.


...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually  
be kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.



The Game

We have no idea how many regular lurkers are in the group...we  
talked about trying to find out.



So: if you are a regular lurker, someone who examines these OSLIST  
threads periodically but does not actively participate ...  are you  
willing to play a little game?



The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...

1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us  
on the list are regular lurkers.


2. *...The rules* are:

 * If you consider yourself a regular lurker, consider opting in to
   the game, by replying...
 * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All
   you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.

3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and  
seeing how many reply over time.


4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.



To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter hey and press  
[Enter] ...or...


... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead

We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.

Thanks!
Daniel

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog  
http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter  
http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.Â


Examine my new book:Â The Culture Game  
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the  
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/


Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/Community.Â







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Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I am a regular lurker.

For many years I was an active participant. I have been doing OST and  
OST inspired work continuously for about 20 years and used to be an  
OSONOS regular. A few of the active participants will remember me.


Life got very complicated a number of years ago and, while I still do  
the work, I rarely feel comfortable adding my 2 cents. Occasionally  
offer my 2 bits... I guess that's what happens when interest accrues  
on my 2 cents over time.


I lurk to feel some sense of connection to the OST community and to be  
inspired by your work.



--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open  
Spaceand OSLIST


...the participants at the time were

Chuni Li
Daniel Mezick
Karen Davis
Linda Stevenson
Lucas Cioffi
Paul Levy
Peggy Holman
Skye Hirst
Suzanne Daigle
Tricia Chirumbole
Harold Shinsato

We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not  
actually be very easy to figure out...


...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of  
members, with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply  
with anything close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with  
highly authoritative voices.


...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually  
be kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.



The Game

We have no idea how many regular lurkers are in the group...we  
talked about trying to find out.



So: if you are a regular lurker, someone who examines these OSLIST  
threads periodically but does not actively participate ...  are you  
willing to play a little game?



The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...

1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us  
on the list are regular lurkers.


2. *...The rules* are:

 * If you consider yourself a regular lurker, consider opting in to
   the game, by replying...
 * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All
   you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.

3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and  
seeing how many reply over time.


4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.



To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter hey and press  
[Enter] ...or...


... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead

We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.

Thanks!
Daniel

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog  
http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter  
http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.Â


Examine my new book:Â The Culture Game  
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the  
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/


Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/Community.Â







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Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

I am a regular lurker.

For many years I was an active participant. I have been doing OST and  
OST inspired work continuously for about 20 years and used to be an  
OSONOS regular. A few of the active participants will remember me.


Life got very complicated a number of years ago and, while I still do  
the work, I rarely feel comfortable adding my 2 cents. Occasionally  
offer my 2 bits... I guess that's what happens when interest accrues  
on my 2 cents over time.


I lurk to feel some sense of connection to the OST community and to be  
inspired by your work.



--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.


Quoting Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org:

Some of us were on a call on Tuesday, talking about Open  
Spaceand OSLIST


...the participants at the time were

Chuni Li
Daniel Mezick
Karen Davis
Linda Stevenson
Lucas Cioffi
Paul Levy
Peggy Holman
Skye Hirst
Suzanne Daigle
Tricia Chirumbole
Harold Shinsato

We discussed OSLIST culture, and how the culture of OSLIST may not  
actually be very easy to figure out...


...we talked about how this list has hundreds upon hundreds of  
members, with just 25 to 45 people (give or take) who post or reply  
with anything close to a regular frequency, and how some speak with  
highly authoritative voices.


...we talked a bit about how the culture of OSLIST /might actually  
be kind of intimidating for new people/ to participate in.



The Game

We have no idea how many regular lurkers are in the group...we  
talked about trying to find out.



So: if you are a regular lurker, someone who examines these OSLIST  
threads periodically but does not actively participate ...  are you  
willing to play a little game?



The Lurker Game: you are invited to play...

1. *...The goal* is to collectively get some idea of how many of us  
on the list are regular lurkers.


2. *...The rules* are:

 * If you consider yourself a regular lurker, consider opting in to
   the game, by replying...
 * If you reply, absolutely nothing further will be asked of you. All
   you are doing is identifying yourself as someone who lurks. That's it.

3. ...We'll all track *the progress* by watching the thread, and  
seeing how many reply over time.


4. ...Participation is *opt-in*.



To participate, just hit [Reply List] and enter hey and press  
[Enter] ...or...


... (optionally) just say whatever you might want to say, instead

We have no idea what might happen next; let's see what develops.

Thanks!
Daniel

--

Daniel Mezick, President

New Technology Solutions Inc.

(203) 915 7248 (cell)

Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog  
http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter  
http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.Â


Examine my new book:Â The Culture Game  
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the  
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.  
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/


Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/Community.Â







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[OSList] Happy Birthday, HO

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy Birthday, Harrison.

Raven seems to have arrived on my shoulder as I write this note - may  
the spirit of Raven join the community of spirits surrounding you today.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
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[OSList] Happy Birthday, HO

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy Birthday, Harrison.

Raven seems to have arrived on my shoulder as I write this note - may  
the spirit of Raven join the community of spirits surrounding you today.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
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Think globally. Act locally.






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[OSList] Happy Birthday, HO

[Chris Kloth via OSList]

Happy Birthday, Harrison.

Raven seems to have arrived on my shoulder as I write this note - may  
the spirit of Raven join the community of spirits surrounding you today.


--
Shalom,

Chris Kloth
ChangeWorks of the Heartland
254 South Merkle Road
Bexley, OH 43209-1801
ph 614-239-1336
fax 614-237-2347
www.got2change.com

Think globally. Act locally.






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