RE: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
I am always willing to read and review, Andrea. Areas of interest include but are not limited to midwifery practice, women's views and women's experience, midwifery/maternity care culture, midwives experience of practice, vaginal birth after cesarean, breech birth, reflective practice, private sector midwifery, keeping birth normal, history of midwifery and cross cultural issues - very broad interests. My (mail and phone)details you have. Looking forward to reading! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery;acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of Andrea Robertson Sent: Friday, 15 November 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to give them an idea of its style and content. We need approximately another 10 people at this time (we still have some reviewers on our panel from almost 2 years ago) and are looking for those with varied backgrounds: midwives, consumers, educators, lactation consultants etc. Before you rush in to reply, please don't offer unless you can promise to send a review within 2 months of receiving a book. You will be able to keep the book in return for your review, but this is not just an easy way to get a free book - we are asking you to do some work for us first! As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Postal address Phone number Area of interest/expertise Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth
I agree - so sensual and, well, you just have to see it (dance it) to believe it! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'aSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 4:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth ah, now for letting it go, Afro-Cuban dance is the way to go! grins, aviva - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth In a message dated 11/14/02 8:25:54 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, yes! and it's wonderful what happens to the perineum, vagina, bladder and the whole woman when Belly Dance is taken up. I heartily recommend it! Ditto with ballet dancing. I did ballet as a child and into adulthood. I hadn't realised how much I had used my pelvic floor muscles and all the rest during my ballet training, until I started doing pelvic floor exercises during pregnancy. When our CBE teacher took us through pelvic floor exercises, I suddenly realised that I had been regularly - and by that I mean many times a day - exercising my pelvic floor, as a result of the ballet training that I had done.The big trouble for me, was actually being able to let me pelvic floor "go".Debbie SlaterPerth, WA
[ozmidwifery] Recurring Mastitis Help
Hello List, I have a dear friend, Jenny, whose first baby, a 9lb 13oz boy was born in Burnie, Tasmania on October 8. In his short life thus far, mother has had mastitis 2x, and is currently with bout #3. She is dedicated to breastfeeding but this is knocking her around and it has hubby wishing she would give breastfeeding away. I recommended trying to find a homoeopath to avoid yet more a/biotics in case of another go, but don't know of any in NW Tassie (she lives near Ulverstone). I wondered if anyone on the list knows of someone? She is seeing an LC quite a bit which is great, and the LC's strategy is working on moderating Jen's supply. Jen's had pretty badly damaged nipples too, and wondered if the mastitis is infective - I'm not sure if her nipples are damaged still now (I spoke to her other half tonight and didn't ask him). Bub is gaining weight well, 250-300gs/week - not massive (though more than adequate) - so I wondered whether blaming oversupply was justified. I would love to see Jen go on to breastfeed for a lot longer than 5 weeks, for her and baby's sake, and wondered if any of you can recommend someone fabulous on the NW coast of Tas. Jo Slamen -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] RE: Seeking Sri Lanka Midwife
Dear List (especially Melbourne Listers) have just come from a meeting where someone else had the brilliant idea of touching base with Heather Harris. Can anyone help me with her email or other contact details? Alesa Alesa KoziolClinical Midwifery EducatorMelbourne
Re: [ozmidwifery] Recurring Mastitis Help
Hi Jo, I have used the following with very good results(recommended from a friend who runs a breastfeeding clinic) TakeFish oil 4000mg Evening primrose oil 2000mg Vitamin C 4000mg Take these every day while breastfeeding. Take half in the morning and half at night with meals.If there is any sign of breast redness or pain increase the vit C to 8000mg.Some forms of vit c are easier tolerated than others and the mother may need to experiment with this.I have found www.goldenglow,com.au very reasonable in there prices for these products and there delivery has always been quick. Hope this helps Lyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/02 12:19am Jo, I'm a midwife in South of Tasmania, Bruny Island actually. I'll make a few phone calls over the weekend seek out a homeopath in the NW of Tasmania. I'll post details on the list as soon as I can. Other listers in Tas may have some info too. Helen Grainger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Recurring Mastitis Help
Sorry I was typing this at work with a baby attached in the mie ti and must have hit the wrong key. This is the correct address www.goldenglow.com.au Hope that works better Lyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/02 01:45am Hi Jo, I have used the following with very good results(recommended from a friend who runs a breastfeeding clinic) TakeFish oil 4000mg Evening primrose oil 2000mg Vitamin C 4000mg Take these every day while breastfeeding. Take half in the morning and half at night with meals.If there is any sign of breast redness or pain increase the vit C to 8000mg.Some forms of vit c are easier tolerated than others and the mother may need to experiment with this.I have found www.goldenglow,com.au very reasonable in there prices for these products and there delivery has always been quick. Hope this helps Lyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/02 12:19am Jo, I'm a midwife in South of Tasmania, Bruny Island actually. I'll make a few phone calls over the weekend seek out a homeopath in the NW of Tasmania. I'll post details on the list as soon as I can. Other listers in Tas may have some info too. Helen Grainger -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Lyle Burgoyne Postal address22a Park Ave Murwillumbah NSW 2484 Phone number0266728372/0404 491 218 Area of interest/expertise Midwife ,Breastfeeding Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance.
Dear Rhonda I work in a practice of 4 midwives and we decided to incorporate due to the legal advice we received. We are now known as Sydney Midwifery Practice Pty Ltd. It has been a big process and we are still learning. There are many rules once you become incorporated - from BAS, to taxation issues and super. We are still learning and am finding it time consuming. But it is unfortunately necessary. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 12:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Our solicitor, in light of our situation, and not being able to get insurance has suggested that we become Incorporated. Because they have to sue us personally as the person who performed the procedure - all of our assets would then be owned by the company and could not be touched by personal litigation. I guess this is something we never thought we would need to do but I was thinking that midwives who are working without insurance could do the same thing and therefore protect themselves at least from personal litigation. I know it does not solve the problem - a bit like the "form to fill out" it is just another measure to protect oneself. Has anyone else considered this option? Regards Rhonda IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance.
I admit I had, butit wouldstill be difficult (?impossible)to find an underwriter who was willing to insure Midwives in the current climate, whether they be a company or a single practitioner. In light of what Vanessa Owens told us yesterday at an excellent workshop in Nambour, the College has tried very hard to find a resolution to this situation and is still working on it, but there is still a long way to go. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 11:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Our solicitor, in light of our situation, and not being able to get insurance has suggested that we become Incorporated. Because they have to sue us personally as the person who performed the procedure - all of our assets would then be owned by the company and could not be touched by personal litigation. I guess this is something we never thought we would need to do but I was thinking that midwives who are working without insurance could do the same thing and therefore protect themselves at least from personal litigation. I know it does not solve the problem - a bit like the "form to fill out" it is just another measure to protect oneself. Has anyone else considered this option? Regards Rhonda IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance.
Jane, how have you organised your insurance as a company then? There is a group of us on the Sunshine Coast who would consider doing the same thing. Looking forward to hearing from you! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jane PalmerSent: Saturday, 16 November 2002 7:30 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Dear Rhonda I work in a practice of 4 midwives and we decided to incorporate due to the legal advice we received. We are now known as Sydney Midwifery Practice Pty Ltd. It has been a big process and we are still learning. There are many rules once you become incorporated - from BAS, to taxation issues and super. We are still learning and am finding it time consuming. But it is unfortunately necessary. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 12:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Our solicitor, in light of our situation, and not being able to get insurance has suggested that we become Incorporated. Because they have to sue us personally as the person who performed the procedure - all of our assets would then be owned by the company and could not be touched by personal litigation. I guess this is something we never thought we would need to do but I was thinking that midwives who are working without insurance could do the same thing and therefore protect themselves at least from personal litigation. I know it does not solve the problem - a bit like the "form to fill out" it is just another measure to protect oneself. Has anyone else considered this option? Regards Rhonda IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] Fw: Should Kids Witness A Birth ?
Stay Happy Rhonda. Subject: should kids witness birth?Should kids witness a birth? A true story: Short and VERY funny!It was late at night and Heidi, who was expecting her second child washome alone with her 3-year old daughter Katelyn. When Heidi started going into labor, she called "911".Due to a power outage at the time, only one paramedic responded to thecall. The house was very, very dark, so the paramedic asked Katelyn tohold a flashlight high over her mommy so he could see while he helped deliverthe baby. Very diligently, Katelyn did as she was asked.Heidi pushed and pushed, and after a little while Connor was born. Theparamedic lifted him by his little feet and spanked him on his bottom.Connor began to cry.The paramedic then thanked Katelyn for her help and asked the wide-eyed3-year old what she thought about what she had just witnessed.Katelyn quickly responded, "He shouldn't have crawled in there in thefirst place. Spank him again!" IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance.
If I am right here it does not give you insurance as a compant just the reassurance that if anyone were to take legal ac6tion against you that they cannot get anything as it is all under the compant umbrella and therefore ca't be claimed against. I am not quite sure of this but think it is how it works. Any legal eagals out there know any more than me?? Regards Rhonda ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:10:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Jane, how have you organised your insurance as a company then? There is a group of us on the Sunshine Coast who would consider doing the same thing. Looking forward to hearing from you! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jane PalmerSent: Saturday, 16 November 2002 7:30 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Dear Rhonda I work in a practice of 4 midwives and we decided to incorporate due to the legal advice we received. We are now known as Sydney Midwifery Practice Pty Ltd. It has been a big process and we are still learning. There are many rules once you become incorporated - from BAS, to taxation issues and super. We are still learning and am finding it time consuming. But it is unfortunately necessary. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 12:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Our solicitor, in light of our situation, and not being able to get insurance has suggested that we become Incorporated. Because they have to sue us personally as the person who performed the procedure - all of our assets would then be owned by the company and could not be touched by personal litigation. I guess this is something we never thought we would need to do but I was thinking that midwives who are working without insurance could do the same thing and therefore protect themselves at least from personal litigation. I know it does not solve the problem - a bit like the "form to fill out" it is just another measure to protect oneself. Has anyone else considered this option? Regards Rhonda IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth
Good on you! Ask Edwina about Belly/Improvisation/Afro/Cuban classes! I think I'm the process of devising a new weekend workshop type thing to take on tour...any takers??? Aviva - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth I agree - so sensual and, well, you just have to see it (dance it) to believe it! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'aSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 4:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth ah, now for letting it go, Afro-Cuban dance is the way to go! grins, aviva - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth In a message dated 11/14/02 8:25:54 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, yes! and it's wonderful what happens to the perineum, vagina, bladder and the whole woman when Belly Dance is taken up. I heartily recommend it! Ditto with ballet dancing. I did ballet as a child and into adulthood. I hadn't realised how much I had used my pelvic floor muscles and all the rest during my ballet training, until I started doing pelvic floor exercises during pregnancy. When our CBE teacher took us through pelvic floor exercises, I suddenly realised that I had been regularly - and by that I mean many times a day - exercising my pelvic floor, as a result of the ballet training that I had done.The big trouble for me, was actually being able to let me pelvic floor "go".Debbie SlaterPerth, WA
[ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCNSW] more interventions for labour!
- Original Message - From: Virginia Miltrup To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: [MCNSW] more interventions for labour! a proposed drug to reduce the time of first labour to 2-3 hours by softening the collagen in the cervix! The scientists reckon it doesn't hurt more, (but then again they might have been blokes :-)). Website listed below. Love Kate PS What about all those women who were already going to have quick births?? http://www.ivenus.com/family/news/LC-notebook1-wk40.asp less labour? If only childbirth weren't such hard work. it may soon get easier, thanks to a new drug. The move is on to shorten childbirth via a new drug that is due to be tested later this year, according to a report in the New Scientist. The theory is that a shorter labour should be less painful and require less intervention on the part of doctors. The average time that most first-time mums spend in labour is around 18 hours, and while this can be speeded up with prostaglandin gels or synthetic hormones, these drugs can make labour unbearably painful and may make women feel the urge to push before the cervix is fully opened. This in itself can lead to complications. The new drug, developed and patented by Britain's Medical Research Council, may cut the average labour down to only two or three hours. Most of the long, painful hours of labour are spent as the cervix slowly opens from tightly closed to 10 centimetres. Many women feel they have been in labour forever and rush into the hospital expecting to deliver instantly only to be told they are just two or three centimetres dilated! For most women (although there are those who have quick births), dilation of the cervix is a slow process. The new drug, however, is designed to speed up this process by softening the collagen in the cervix. It is likely to be administered either through gel, cream, microcapsules or injection, although as yet it is not known what form it will take. So far it has only been tested on monkeys. In these cases, the Scottish firm Ardana Bioscience, which has the licence for the new drug, reports it worked very effectively. By Marianne HartiganMaternity Coalition NSWwww.maternitycoalition.org.auTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation Dear Laraine Well done and changing your personal status as well!! Is that thru ECU or Curtin??Congratulations all round Denise - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] accreditation On 4/11/02 10:36 AM, "Laraine Hood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am currently undertaking my Masters in Mid, tackling the subject of accreditation/credentialling of independent midwives. In the light of current PI issues, and the NMAP push, I felt that all efforts at improving the 'professional image' would be positive. But, I am having great difficulty finding appropriate references. I am aware of the ACMI guidelines and work for the Community Midwifery Program of WA but need to know what 'accreditation/credentialling is available for other MWs particularly in other states, but also other countries. Also thanks Rhonda for the ant story... I am also trying that approach of 'God I know these references are out there, please help me find them'. I have noticed a distinct lack of ants in the Library though where I spend much time so maybe I need to take up rock climbing. Thanks, all help is appreciated, Laraine. Hi LaraineIn NZ all midwife practitioners who take on their own case-load reflect on their practice on a regular basis and submit their records to the NZ College of Midwives annually. If the self-reflection process reveals some perceived inadequacies in her practice the midwife can ask for a College assessor to give guidance.It is one of the best systems to maintain credentialling standards that I have ever seen and Im sure you could get details by emailing Karen Guilliland [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Im not sure if this is still her email address but give it a try.Good luck with your search, the NZ College would probably have references for you as well.CheersJan__Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.auSouth Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM__
[ozmidwifery] Fw: How The World Works
Oh how true! Rhonda How the World Works Let's see if I understand how the world works lately...If a man cuts his finger off while slicing salami at work,he blames the restaurant. If you smoke three packs a day for 40 years and die of lung cancer,your family blames the tobacco company. If your neighbor crashes into a tree while driving home drunk, he blames the bartender. If your grandchildren are brats without manners,you blame television.If your friend is shot by a deranged madman,you blame the gun manufacturer. And if a crazed person breaks into the cockpit and tries to kill the pilot at 35,000 feet, and the passengers kill him instead, the mother of the crazed deceased blames the airline. I must have lived too long to understand the world as it is anymore. So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this computer,I want you to blame Bill Gates...okay? IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] Fw: (no subject)
Not a bad bunch for the w/e. Luv Rhonda. He SaidShe Said... (10) He said..."I don't know why you wear a bra; you've got nothing to put in it." She said..."You wear briefs, don't you?"(9) She said..."What do you mean by coming home half drunk?" He said... "It's not my fault...I ran out of money."(8) He said... "Since I first laid eyes on you, I've wanted to make loveto you in the worst way." She said..."Well, you succeeded."(7) He said... "Two inches more, and I would be king." She said..."Two inches less, and you'd be a queen."(6) On wall in ladies room: "My husband follows me everywhere." Written just below it: "I do not."(5) He said... "Shall we try a different position tonight?" She said..."That's a good idea you stand by the ironing board while I siton the sofa and fart."(4) Priest said... "I don' t think you will ever find another man likeyour late husband." She said... "Who's gonna look?"(3) He said... "What have you been doing with all the grocery money I gave you?" "She said..."Turn sideways and look in the mirror. "(2) He said ... "Let's go out and have some fun tonight." "She said...Okay, but if you get home before I do, leave the hallway light on." And the number (1)He said... "Why don't you tell me when you have an orgasm? " She said..."I would, but you said not to call you at work. " IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers
Dear Andrea I am interested i used to review when I was a nurse educatior so you can put me down as midwife, consumer educator, and lactation consultant etc. Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: Robin Moon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers Hi Andrea, I would be happy to be a book reviewer. NameRobin Moon Postal address 16 Chester Street Epping Phone number98691211 Area of interest/expertise:Midwifery Robin - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Calling for book reviewers Hi listers, We are once again looking for volunteers to add to our team of book reviewers. Each year we receive a number of new tiles that we add to our list on the web site and in our catalogue and as a service to our customers, we like to be able to point buyers to a review of the book to give them an idea of its style and content. We need approximately another 10 people at this time (we still have some reviewers on our panel from almost 2 years ago) and are looking for those with varied backgrounds: midwives, consumers, educators, lactation consultants etc. Before you rush in to reply, please don't offer unless you can promise to send a review within 2 months of receiving a book. You will be able to keep the book in return for your review, but this is not just an easy way to get a free book - we are asking you to do some work for us first! As we have a range of titles available, we will try to match the book with your area of interest. An outline of how to prepare the review will be included. We are hoping to have all reviews completed and on our web site by the end of January. If you are interested, please email me the following details: Name Postal address Phone number Area of interest/expertise Thank you for your interest, Andrea Robertson - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCNSW] more interventions for labour!
I won't bother going into how I feel about it. You probably can work it out anyway, but I just HAVE to ask: What did the monkeys feel/think about it? How did they react? How were the baby monkeys? Were there any side-effects? How many years have passed since the monkey trials and what the results of the follow-ups? and what about we who've enjoyed having long labours??? If you had these drugs to speed up labour, how do you know you wouldn't have had a wonderful, natural labour and birth anyway? aviva a proposed drug to reduce the time of first labour to 2-3 hours by softening the collagen in the cervix! The scientists reckon it doesn't hurt more, (but then again they might have been blokes :-)). Website listed below. Love Kate PS What about all those women who were already going to have quick births?? http://www.ivenus.com/family/news/LC-notebook1-wk40.asp
[ozmidwifery] Ultrasounds
Dear Jodie List, I agree with Marilyn that there are lots of other signs that make the pregnancy real - fetal movements are not the only ones. There are plenty of changes in your body mind. Another negative aspect of ultrasound that hasn't really been discussed is the amount of times they get it wrong, or see something 'unusual' but have no idea what it means. Here's just a small selection of ultrasound stuff-ups that I have seen in my practice - a baby with only two chambers in it's heart - this was missed on 2 ultrasounds - a woman with a Grade 4 placenta previa - missed on 3-4 ultrasounds - a baby that had 'ascites' detected on ultrasound - this woman was transferred to the capital city thousands of kms away from family friends, and the baby delivered prematurely. It didn't have ascites or any other detectable abnormality, but now has a host of problems resulting from prematurity and long separations from its mother. Imagine the different scenario if she's never had the routine ultrasound in the first place. - a baby that had 'shadows' on its heart on ultrasound. No-one could tell the woman what this meant. This considerably increased her anxiety levels - not reduced them. The baby was and is perfectly healthy. - There have also been a number of cleft palates that have been missed, countless heart defects that have either been missed or are not detectable on ultrasound, a missed spinal defect. - Weight predictions that are often wrong - by up to 1.5kg. These were done by a variety of ultrasonongraphers using a variety of equipment. How can anyone be reassured by ultrasound, when they are so unreliable? They are not a perfect tool, but their use is sometimes warranted when there is an indication - then they are not used alone in diagnosis, but as one part of a complete assessment.I don't believe that they should be used routinely or for social reasons. We don't give people the choice of having social xrays, CT scans etc - because there are potential negative aspects of their use. We only use these technologies when we have an indication, not because someone wants to see a picture of their brain, etc. Routine use of ultrasounds only serves to fill the pockets of private companies. Well, that's my say. Jacky
RE: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth
Come to QLD! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'aSent: Saturday, 16 November 2002 11:23 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth Good on you! Ask Edwina about Belly/Improvisation/Afro/Cuban classes! I think I'm the process of devising a new weekend workshop type thing to take on tour...any takers??? Aviva - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth I agree - so sensual and, well, you just have to see it (dance it) to believe it! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'aSent: Friday, 15 November 2002 4:41 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth ah, now for letting it go, Afro-Cuban dance is the way to go! grins, aviva - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Julia's birth In a message dated 11/14/02 8:25:54 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, yes! and it's wonderful what happens to the perineum, vagina, bladder and the whole woman when Belly Dance is taken up. I heartily recommend it! Ditto with ballet dancing. I did ballet as a child and into adulthood. I hadn't realised how much I had used my pelvic floor muscles and all the rest during my ballet training, until I started doing pelvic floor exercises during pregnancy. When our CBE teacher took us through pelvic floor exercises, I suddenly realised that I had been regularly - and by that I mean many times a day - exercising my pelvic floor, as a result of the ballet training that I had done.The big trouble for me, was actually being able to let me pelvic floor "go".Debbie SlaterPerth, WA
Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound inPregnancy
On 13/11/02 11:20 PM, Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all I missed Jodie's original e-mail but I do agree with Sally I understand that the safety issue is more than a scare mongering anti-technology response as the most conservative Colleges of O G have covered thenmsleves in recommeend ues on ly for a clinical indication, but once again this beleif to ensure a healthy baby has become a clinical indication, though how many couples are given the rates of false readings as well asthe safety questions (SGA risk for example) Denise hynd - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 9:27 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] FW: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy My hesitation around ultrasound is that no-one can produce research to prove that this is a safe thing to do. Until this is clarified I remain one who will advocate the use of ultrasound for clinical indications only rather than as a routine intervention. Sally Westbury -Original Message- From: Jodie Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2002 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [birthnews] Social use of Ultrasound in Pregnancy Just an anecdote to add... Yoga pals and expectant friends of mine recently had their 20 week scan at the Royal Women's Hospital Brisbane and they came home with, not only the regular BW prints, but a set of *extraordinarily* detailed colour photos of their baby's face in utero. The technician got so excited at the quality of image that they were achieving and printed off some 8 or more wonderful pictures for the parents-to-be to take home and enjoy. I must say the images gave me shivers! The level of detail achieved was amazing... who could blame parents for wanting to take advantage of this opportunity to meet and bond with their baby? I've heard of ultrasound being used to help couples accept their baby in unplanned pregnancy or of women using the ultrasound scan to reign in a dad-to-be in denial. My own two (soon to be three) experiences of the 20 week anomaly scan were extremely warm and wonderful like a verification and validation that all was normal and healthy with the added bonus of allowing us the opportunity to learn our babies' gender - something that I felt helped me to bond with my babies in utero just that little bit more. I made every effort to call my husband to attend if I was referred for an impromptu scan in later pregnancy and we always walked away with a warm glow and a sense of familiarity with our unborn member of the family. We framed ultrasound pictures and emailed scanned images to distant family so that everyone was able to share our joyful expectation. I realise that this technology is over-applied but it's hard not to get excited when we are offered the opportunity to see the unseeable. Suddenly a pregnancy becomes real, the baby becomes real and, once actually viewed, it becomes easier to think of a future with baby in it. Just my two cents, Jodie Miller --- Jan Cornfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joanne Not on social use but informed choice etc http://www.aimsusa.org/ultrasnd.htm What about some of the sites for mothers? Jan Cornfoot __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 BirthNews is sponsored by CAPERS Bookstore the Birth Issues Journal. www.capersbookstore.com.au To unsubscribe, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Whatever happened to the old haptonomic approach to getting to know the baby? Don't mothers stroke, caress, talk, and play with their babies in utero anymore? Usually this is spontaneous behaviour but some mothers need to be taught the value of a daily quiet time with baby, especially those mothers who come home tired from working each evening. The haptonomic approach is surely much more fun (and dad can join in too) than watching the poor little mite turn it's ears away from the intruding ultrasound wave ... When you see the baby waving it's arms around it's trying to block it's ears! Why have we become a society that is willing to subject it's unborn to distressing tests without a clinical indicator? Jan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Angela Pridham and Robyn Skewes contact?
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Angela Pridham and Robyn Skewes contact? On 14/11/02 9:13 PM, Julie Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Denise Robyn Skewes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry unable to assist with the other address. hug Julie Clarke Childbirth and Parenting Educator Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 F (02) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2002 11:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Angela Pridham and Robyn Skewes contact? Dear Oz listers Are midwives Angela Pridham (Shoalhaven) or Robyn Skewes (new England) on this list or does some one have their email contact details?? Denise Hynd Julie Call Shellharbour Hospital to contact Angela. I think she still works there. Jan
RE: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance.
Hi Rhonda I have been been practising as a Company Pty Ltd for 18 years now, that is why I have had to go it alone as far as business and legal responsibility goes.Support from ANFis difficult because I am not practising as an individual.According to my accountant the cost ofmemberships over the years had to be weighed against the the expenses of running a company, he advised me to keep my expenses low.When PI was available through ANF I was not able toaccess it,so it was better for me not to pay the membership levy. I think the same applies to ACMI but I am not sure of legal details here. Maybe someone could provide some current information. The bottom line islegislation is via the Nurses Board in Victoria and NSW where I am registered as nurse first and midwife second. Robyn -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Thoughts on insurance. Our solicitor, in light of our situation, and not being able to get insurance has suggested that we become Incorporated. Because they have to sue us personally as the person who performed the procedure - all of our assets would then be owned by the company and could not be touched by personal litigation. I guess this is something we never thought we would need to do but I was thinking that midwives who are working without insurance could do the same thing and therefore protect themselves at least from personal litigation. I know it does not solve the problem - a bit like the "form to fill out" it is just another measure to protect oneself. Has anyone else considered this option? Regards Rhonda IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[ozmidwifery] Ultrasounds
Reminds me of the woman who had a baby with exomphalos and other abnormalities not compatable with extrauterine life. Missed on 3 USS in Brunei and Manila. Baby ventilated until parents could have proper explanations of the prognosis and then the ventilatorturned off and baby died in their arms. Judy From: "Ross W Timbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Ultrasounds Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:21:27 +1000 Dear Jodie List, I agree with Marilyn that there are lots of other signs that make the pregnancy real - fetal movements are not the only ones. There are plenty of changes in your body mind. Another negative aspect of ultrasound that hasn't really been discussed is the amount of times they get it wrong, or see something 'unusual' but have no idea what it means. Here's just a small selection of ultrasound stuff-ups that I have seen in my practice - a baby with only two chambers in it's heart - this was missed on 2 ultrasounds - a woman with a Grade 4 placenta previa - missed on 3-4 ultrasounds - a baby that had 'ascites' detected on ultrasound - this woman was transferred to the capital city thousands of kms away from family friends, and the baby delivered prematurely. It didn't have ascites or any other detectable abnormality, but now has a host of problems resulting from prematurity and long separations from its mother. Imagine the different scenario if she's never had the routine ultrasound in the first place. - a baby that had 'shadows' on its heart on ultrasound. No-one could tell the woman what this meant. This considerably increased her anxiety levels - not reduced them. The baby was and is perfectly healthy. - There have also been a number of cleft palates that have been missed, countless heart defects that have either been missed or are not detectable on ultrasound, a missed spinal defect. - Weight predictions that are often wrong - by up to 1.5kg. These were done by a variety of ultrasonongraphers using a variety of equipment. How can anyone be reassured by ultrasound, when they are so unreliable? They are not a perfect tool, but their use is sometimes warranted when there is an indication - then they are not used alone in diagnosis, but as one part of a complete assessment. I don't believe that they should be used routinely or for social reasons. We don't give people the choice of having social xrays, CT scans etc - because there are potential negative aspects of their use. We only use these technologies when we have an indication, not because someone wants to see a picture of their brain, etc. Routine use of ultrasounds only serves to fill the pockets of private companies. Well, that's my say. Jacky STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
