RE: [ozmidwifery] Strep B
Hi Jassy, I don't know from a midwive's point-of-view but I'm 32 weeks pregnant and have decided against the test. Like you, I first made the decision against antibiotics and then made the decision not to have the test. My decision was also swayed by a friend living in the UK who tells me it's not a routine test there like it is here, which I find so interesting. My midwife and I will simply monitor my baby closely for any signs of ill-health, which some have argued to me is what we should do anyway and not rely on antibiotics as a cure-all. Good luck with your decision. From Roberta. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nunyara Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:49 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Strep B Hi all, I know info on this topic has been posted before but I deleted it all - silly me as I now wish to ask some questions which have probably already been covered. I am 34 weeks pregnant and was not going to have the STREP B test but I have done some further research and it suggests that all women SHOULD be tested but antibiotics used during labour for a positive result may not be the way to go. To all the midwife's on this forum: is it necessary for me to have this test? Is it in my and my babies best interest to do this? If I tested positive (which I didn't with my first child, in fact I don't even remember having the test) is the intravenous antibiotic really necessary? I do not want this as I plan to have a water birth and I am also highly allergic to penicillan and other forms of backup antibiotics. I will raise this at my midwife appointment I am due for this week I would just like some opinions. Kind Regards Jassy
[ozmidwifery] An Epidemic of Diagnoses
This article doesn't specifically mention pregnancy and birth, but the concepts could be easily applied. I thought you might be interested esp. this line: You can't be a victim of medical error if you are not in the system! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/02/health/02essa.html?ex=1168578000en=7c2783 399f526e72ei=5070emc=eta1 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] 13 pound baby born in Tasmania.
Wow! What a story for them to tell for years to come :) But: I did have an epidural but apart from that it was naturally... Does that sentence/logic even make sense?! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lara Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:29 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] 13 pound baby born in Tasmania. Just wondering if you've seen this? A 13 pound baby was born in Tasmania today. http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1802380.htm Vaginal delivery, with epidural. Maybe this should be printed out and sent to all the HCPs who recommend C section for presumed macrosomia ... Lara -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] homebirth costs
I don't think anyone really understands what the baby bonus is for! Not even the government... as is proven by the latest change in policy. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifairy Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2006 8:42 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] homebirth costs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Barb, I think it's wonderful that you had such an amazing birth and wish for all women to have such an experience. From my understanding, many Sydney midwives ask their clients to come to them not vice versa. So a lot of their care is not midwifery care at home, rather it is out of their home until the final weeks. I'm not sure about all midwives, but this seems more common place now in Sydney. And, you get paid $4000 to have a child these days. Midwifery care at home? It's a bargain. I find it very interesting that people see you get paid to have a baby. I was under the impression that the baby bonus was given to help mums to be able to afford to stay home longer from work, or upgrade their car if they need more space, or buy car seats, slings, good food for nourishment while breastfeeding etc. The only women I know that can afford to spend that whole $4000 on midwifery care are the women that didn't need that money in the first place. The women that choose to spend the whole amount even though they can't afford it, because they have no other choice in Sydney, have no benefits from the baby bonus for living expenses with a newborn. There is no bargain if you can't afford it. I understand the value of midwives and continuity of care and midwifery care at home, but why should women in Sydney and NSW be paying that much more?? Nobody has answered that question. I'm not questioning the value of midwifery care, more why Sydney midwifery care is so much more 'valuable' in the dollars and sense kind of way? Love Abby xo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. The real question as far as Im concerned ( yes I have a 'vested interest' as a midwife, which I guess is slightly different to the vested interest I had when I was a consumer of homebirth midwifery services) is why are women being made to pay out of their own pockets at all just because they choose to birth at home? If women had to pay up-front for obstetric services, ie they were not provided 'free' by the public health system nor were rebatable by the majority of private health insurance companies, then this conversation might have some balance to it. I think some of the answers to the question of differences in charges of homebirth midwifery services is more about supply and demand, cost of living in different geographical areas, the fact as Mary has stated that midwifery service is traditionally undervalued not just within the profession but by other health professionals and consumers alike.and we are meant to be seen as 'caring' and how caring can you be when you actually charge what your service is worth, when you want to provide care to women whether they can afford it or not, regardless of their financial situation, when the midwife in the next suburb or state charges significantly differently because she has different financial needs or different ways of practice or . Please just take into account that every single independently practising midwife I know has worked for no or very little pay, sometimes by choice because we dont want to turn away a woman desperate for a homebirth, or because we've had a client who either didnt pay or didnt pay the agreed amount. Please also take into account that every single homebirth a midwife attends is a major financial risk in terms of the lack of PI insurance - we can be sued by anyone at any time with no recourse to any sort of support, and yes we all want to believe this doesnt happen but it does actually, enough that a significant number of midwives stopped practicing independantly after the PII was no longer available. Rather than asking why are women in NSW paying more, the question should be why are women in other states paying less? And why are they being made to pay at all, when homebirth is provided free in some very specific areas and obstetric care is 'free' everywhere? -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women's Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer - Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software
RE: [ozmidwifery] my letter to 60 minutes
Well done Pinky. I hope it gets read out next week! Surely people with half a brain can see that AP is not "socially negligent", "obsessive" and "lacks common sense". In fact, those words better describesuch asilly segment! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKaySent: Monday, 23 October 2006 7:12 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] my letter to 60 minutes My letter to sixty minutes I could have written an encyclopedia on that segment but figure they will only read short ones - well done Janet. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com Why do we need to label parenting styles? Or to offer such exteme definitions? This is about as much attachment parenting as saying that people who are environmentally conscious must grow all their own food, make all their own clothes, build their own homes, and live in isolation. Attachmentisn't about what kind of nappies parents use (or dont!), and it doesnt require both parents to give up their day jobs, nor does it require adults to 'earn' children's respect or never say 'no'. Surely all people deserve to be treated with respect -including children. We CAN have happy, creative children AND encourage mutual respect however long we choose to breastfeedor share sleep witb our children or whether we send them to school or not.
RE: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
What was said on "Life at 1"? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris BrightSent: Friday, 20 October 2006 5:07 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! HI, They won't have free rein if we all (mothers and health professionals COMPLAIN) It amazes me that amidst the ocean of media report about healthy eating and obesity, the importance of breastfeeding is ignored, or ridiculed on television as it was on "Sunrise" yesterday morning (and probably will be on 60 minutes on the weekend) or crucified like it was on "Life at One" last week. The media needs to lift it's act, and they will only do so when they get the message from US. Yesterday morning "Sunrise" did an article on David Suzuki, talking about in 1992 more than 1/2 of the world's scientific Nobel Laureats wrote an open letter warning of the damage to the enviromnment. No media outlet in the world ran the story. Then Sunrise spoke about a poll they were running. Breast v. bottle, and the announcer tut-tutting about how breastfeeding was a personal choice and women shouldn't be judgemental of each other. Excuse me! they had just set it up! Breastfeeding is not a choice like wearing your blue top or your red top tonight. And getting information to women and health professionals has nothing at all to do with guilt - the usual excuse used by the media to ( and promoted by the formula companies to ultimately promote their wares) Anyway, as to complaining Write to your member of Parliament asking him to write to/forward on the material you send to Tony Abbott, Minister for Health. This way you kill 2 birds with the one stone. You educate your local MP and Let Tony Abbott know that health professionals and mothers of Australia are NOT HAPPY Also, write to the APMAIF panel, enclosing any brochures etc that you have. Don't worry about whether it is technically a breech of the agreement. If it is enough to offend you as a mother or a health professional, send it in - let them know how you feel! APMAIF SecretariatDepartment of Health and AgeingMail Drop Point 15GPO Box 9848ACT 2601 While you are at it, you could complain to the Victorian Office of Children about their decision to keep having their Maternal and child health nurses educated by Wyeth. You could write to the CEO Gill Callister [EMAIL PROTECTED] And send a copy to Minister Sheryl Garbutt at the same time. Warm Regards, Barb - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Arethe formula companies really giving infant FORUMULA samples to pregnant women here? Are they breeching the WHO Code so blatantly here? I thought it was fairly well regulated - unlike many other countries. If it does happen at the Expo, you should report them to the ABA for further action. Unfortunately they have free reign with that toddler milk crap in a can/drink dispensing machine whatever. Jayne - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Writing a complaint letter about inappropriate advertising of artificial baby "milk" might help you channel this rage. I HATE those stalls with a passion. You know that expo is really the Prams'n'Formula Expo, don't you? You'll also see lots of drug companies giving unbiassed (snort) show bags to pregnant women and even better, FORMULA companies giving SAMPLES and show bags to PREGNANT WOMEN. How's that for totally unethical, hey?! J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but. Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow
RE: [ozmidwifery] Karicare formula Ad
A good verdict, but I find it interesting that the summary notes: It should be noted that the complainant is the Womens Health Action Trust breastfeeding advocate... Two other almost identical complaints from breastfeeding advocators opposed to the use of infant formulas were subsequently received. Why should that be noted?!!! Silly. From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris BrightSent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 8:25 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Karicare formula Ad Hi, The offensive Karicare Formula ad (mother bear - I don't want to give my baby the milk of another species so I gave him Karicare Toddler formula) has been banned in New Zealand. See the ruling at http://203.152.114.11/decisions/06/06290.rtf Currently the "Parents Jury" is running a poll on it. You can vote at http://www.parentsjury.org.au/ You need to register first, (I think it's the top right hand corner) It's worth letting it be know that neither parents nor health professionals apreciate this sort of misleading advertising. Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602Director, Australian Breastfeeding AssociationMothers Directwww.mothersdirect.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] agonising pain described by Vic govt
My GP told mea similar thing when I said I was planning a homebirth. First, he wrote in my notes that I wanted to try for a homebirth. Then he told me that while homebirth has become very trendy these days and lots of women would like to think they can have a homebirth, that I should realise that 10% of women who give birth in the wild die! Luckily he retired the following week before any more women had to hear his ignorant dribble. As for the original paragraph... oh my, it is so wrong on so many levels!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Friday, 22 September 2006 6:27 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] agonising pain described by Vic govt I wonder what idiot wrote that? I'm still stuck on the idea that NCB is "popular" these days. Where is that? Let me go there immediately! *shaking head* J - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 7:09 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] agonising pain described by Vic govt OMG, check this out Childbirth - pain relief options The current popularity of natural childbirth can make some pregnant women believe that using pain-relieving drugs during labour is weak or a sign of failure. However, childbirth is one of the most painful experiences the human body can ever have. Some women are lucky and have relatively short, easy labours, while others experience long, agonising ordeals. If you planned for a natural birth but find the labour pains overwhelming, dont be reluctant to ask for pain relief. Childbirth isnt a moral or political judgement of your performance - the aim is simply to bring your baby into the world. http://www.disability.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Childbirth_pain_relief_options?OpenDocument
[ozmidwifery] Doppler u/s
Can anyone tell me the difference between a hand-held doppler and a visual ultrasound macine? Is a hand-held doppler a lesser evil?
RE: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position!!!!!
Most (all?) OBs like to deliver breech births via c-section. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sazz EatonSent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 3:51 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Use of ultrasound routinely to check for breech position! I'm curious, what are the supposed reasons it is necessary to know whether or not the baby is going to be breech? I thought breech was just another position, but still birth like the rest of it?(Part of me suspects the desire to find out whether a baby is breech is because the medical profession is keen to pathologise yet another element of wimmin's reproductive experiences as "abnormal" and in need of medical attention).My only knowledge about breech does come from Sarah Buckley's book, so I have been coloured by her experience and I don't think she knew her fourth was breech, or that it was seen as a problem?Can OzMid. wimmin enlighten me?Cheers,Sazz
RE: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff From: Susan Cudlipp "The reply was 'I DONT CARE- I WANT TO BE INDUCED' How can the ob refuse in this instance?" In my experience, many women don't understand that being induced can result in a very different birthing experience for themselves and their babies. Perhaps rather than simply being told yes or no, a woman would change her mind about wanting to be induced (or the way she is induced)if she hadall the facts. I also think "due dates" (particularly the dates calculated at early ultrasounds) can have a hugely negative psychological effect on a woman's willingness to wait for labour to start spontaneously. From: Justine Canes "It is not until we have a full complement of choice from homebirth to elec c/s can we say that women are really making a choice." And that women are fully informedwhen making those choices.
RE: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff
On the contrary, very well said. -Original Message- From: Andrea Robertson This is a tricky area - informed choice is really a myth, as so many vested interests come into play, but we must support women once they have made a considered decision. To do less would be to undermine her further and to miss the opportunity for learning, even of some of those lessons are unpalatable at the time. Not really expressing this well this morning. Regards Andrea -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] How long before synto is used?
That birthing experiences vary so drastically as a result of individual staff is reason to advocate for returning the power and control of birth to birthing women. This, not policy, will help ensure that all women and babies have the best chance for a truly great birth. But it's institutions as well as individual staff that influence women's birthing experiences since each hospital has its own culture that filters through to the individuals working within it. At 12:19 PM +1000 17/6/06, Janet Fraser wrote: So there are hospitals around where it is possible. I think in most cases it's that there are individual staff, nothing to do with the institutions. Some women have great births in some hospitals and for others the same place is a bloodbath. It's the staff you fluke on the day that have the biggest impact on your experience. J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
