RE: Sound Forge 8
From the sony creative site. But you have to have an account. They have the records of what you owned. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of stewart ross Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:29 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 hi there please can someone tell me where i can download soundforge 8 from? from the ross meister www.laserhothits.co.uk - Original Message - From: Tina Wilson tinatee...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 Hi Wayne and all, I am now using Sound Forge 11 Pro, but it's not as easy to use as Sound Forge 8 was. So if you get it downloaded, let all of us know. I have not tried going back to it. Tina -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of wayne smith Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:13 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Sound Forge 8 Hello- I am new to this list and hope to share info with you all. I was doing well with Sound Forge 8 years ago then my XP machine crashed and burned. I am using Windows 7 64bit and I learned that there is a free download for Sound Forge 8 but it requires a codec Pac 1 download as well. Can I download all of this on my current computer without it creating problems? I tried Goldwave and Audacity but they don't come close to the ease and versatility of Sound Forge 8. I can't afford to buy a current version of Sound Forge at this point. I use a JAWS screen reader 14. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Wayne
Sound Forge 8
Hello- I am new to this list and hope to share info with you all. I was doing well with Sound Forge 8 years ago then my XP machine crashed and burned. I am using Windows 7 64bit and I learned that there is a free download for Sound Forge 8 but it requires a codec Pac 1 download as well. Can I download all of this on my current computer without it creating problems? I tried Goldwave and Audacity but they don't come close to the ease and versatility of Sound Forge 8. I can't afford to buy a current version of Sound Forge at this point. I use a JAWS screen reader 14. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Wayne
RE: Sound Forge 8
Wayne, I would think that you can download Sound Forge 8, without any problems on a Windows 7, 64 bit machine. I have SF 6 on my Windows 7 machine, and have no issues. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of wayne smith Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:13 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Sound Forge 8 Hello- I am new to this list and hope to share info with you all. I was doing well with Sound Forge 8 years ago then my XP machine crashed and burned. I am using Windows 7 64bit and I learned that there is a free download for Sound Forge 8 but it requires a codec Pac 1 download as well. Can I download all of this on my current computer without it creating problems? I tried Goldwave and Audacity but they don't come close to the ease and versatility of Sound Forge 8. I can't afford to buy a current version of Sound Forge at this point. I use a JAWS screen reader 14. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Wayne
RE: Sound Forge 8
Hi Wayne and all, I am now using Sound Forge 11 Pro, but it's not as easy to use as Sound Forge 8 was. So if you get it downloaded, let all of us know. I have not tried going back to it. Tina -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of wayne smith Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:13 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Sound Forge 8 Hello- I am new to this list and hope to share info with you all. I was doing well with Sound Forge 8 years ago then my XP machine crashed and burned. I am using Windows 7 64bit and I learned that there is a free download for Sound Forge 8 but it requires a codec Pac 1 download as well. Can I download all of this on my current computer without it creating problems? I tried Goldwave and Audacity but they don't come close to the ease and versatility of Sound Forge 8. I can't afford to buy a current version of Sound Forge at this point. I use a JAWS screen reader 14. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Wayne
Re: Sound Forge 8
hi there please can someone tell me where i can download soundforge 8 from? from the ross meister www.laserhothits.co.uk - Original Message - From: Tina Wilson tinatee...@cox.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 Hi Wayne and all, I am now using Sound Forge 11 Pro, but it's not as easy to use as Sound Forge 8 was. So if you get it downloaded, let all of us know. I have not tried going back to it. Tina -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of wayne smith Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 1:13 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Sound Forge 8 Hello- I am new to this list and hope to share info with you all. I was doing well with Sound Forge 8 years ago then my XP machine crashed and burned. I am using Windows 7 64bit and I learned that there is a free download for Sound Forge 8 but it requires a codec Pac 1 download as well. Can I download all of this on my current computer without it creating problems? I tried Goldwave and Audacity but they don't come close to the ease and versatility of Sound Forge 8. I can't afford to buy a current version of Sound Forge at this point. I use a JAWS screen reader 14. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Wayne
Re: Sound Forge 8 Question
hi no what i am trying to stop is wen i am playing an audio file using soundfordge, i want jaws to stop talking wen i am playing a file in soundfordge. from stewart ross tune in to http://laserhothits.servemp3.com:8130/listen.pls email stewartr...@sky.com msn stewart-r...@hotmail.co.uk skype stewartross - Original Message - From: Barry Chapman barr...@bigpond.net.au To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:04 AM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 Question I assume you are referring to how JAWS continually speaks when saving a file etc. For example: s s s sa sa sa sav sav sav savi savi savi savin savin savin saving saving saving. To stop this, change the screen echo to none with Insert+s. Put it back to highlighted when you are done. Regards, Barry Chapman - Original Message - From: stewart ross stewartr...@sky.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 Question hi ok i have a question i am using soundfordge 5 and jfw8 but the only think i want jaws to stop saying is all the seconds and minutes it will say wen u start a file wen i used jfw6 this didn't happen any ideas from stewart ross. tune in to http://laserhothits.servemp3.com:8130/listen.pls email stewartr...@sky.com msn stewart-r...@hotmail.co.uk skype stewartross - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb ncr...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 Question Larry: Tap the letter L more than once instead of F, and you'll get the results you want. Incidentally, if you ever need to listen to a file quickly in reverse, you can tap J a couple of times to speed it up going backwards. The letter K will stop your fast forward movement, and the cursor, if you will, will be at that point where you stopped listening rather than at the beginning of the file or somewhere else no longer relevant. Regards, Nolan To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sound Forge 8 Question
I assume you are referring to how JAWS continually speaks when saving a file etc. For example: s s s sa sa sa sav sav sav savi savi savi savin savin savin saving saving saving. To stop this, change the screen echo to none with Insert+s. Put it back to highlighted when you are done. Regards, Barry Chapman - Original Message - From: stewart ross stewartr...@sky.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 Question hi ok i have a question i am using soundfordge 5 and jfw8 but the only think i want jaws to stop saying is all the seconds and minutes it will say wen u start a file wen i used jfw6 this didn't happen any ideas from stewart ross. tune in to http://laserhothits.servemp3.com:8130/listen.pls email stewartr...@sky.com msn stewart-r...@hotmail.co.uk skype stewartross - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb ncr...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 Question Larry: Tap the letter L more than once instead of F, and you'll get the results you want. Incidentally, if you ever need to listen to a file quickly in reverse, you can tap J a couple of times to speed it up going backwards. The letter K will stop your fast forward movement, and the cursor, if you will, will be at that point where you stopped listening rather than at the beginning of the file or somewhere else no longer relevant. Regards, Nolan To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Sound Forge 8 Question
Hi. I'm editing audio for someone who prefers that the task be completed in Sound Forge. I generally use GoldWave, so I'm trying to get a handle on how things are done in Sound Forge. For one thing, in Goldwave, I can listen to a file in fast forward at any speed I designate by pressing F6. If I understand Sound Forge correctly I should be able to listen to a file in Fast forward mode by pressing the letter F. But it isn't working for me. I stongly suspect that operator error is at fault here, so can somebody please tell me how I can listen to a file in fast forward mode in Sound Forge? I don't want to change the file's speed. I just want to listen to it at a higher rate of speed. Thanks in advance. Larry To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sound Forge 8 Question
You want to press the letter L to fast forward in Sound forge. That will speed the sound up. You can tap L several times to speed the sound up further, depending upon how you have it set as far as speed is concerned in the prefferences. - Original Message - From: Larry Naessens larr...@distributel.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 Question Hi. I'm editing audio for someone who prefers that the task be completed in Sound Forge. I generally use GoldWave, so I'm trying to get a handle on how things are done in Sound Forge. For one thing, in Goldwave, I can listen to a file in fast forward at any speed I designate by pressing F6. If I understand Sound Forge correctly I should be able to listen to a file in Fast forward mode by pressing the letter F. But it isn't working for me. I stongly suspect that operator error is at fault here, so can somebody please tell me how I can listen to a file in fast forward mode in Sound Forge? I don't want to change the file's speed. I just want to listen to it at a higher rate of speed. Thanks in advance. Larry To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Sound Forge 8 Question
Larry: Tap the letter L more than once instead of F, and you'll get the results you want. Incidentally, if you ever need to listen to a file quickly in reverse, you can tap J a couple of times to speed it up going backwards. The letter K will stop your fast forward movement, and the cursor, if you will, will be at that point where you stopped listening rather than at the beginning of the file or somewhere else no longer relevant. Regards, Nolan To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sound Forge 8 Question
hi ok i have a question i am using soundfordge 5 and jfw8 but the only think i want jaws to stop saying is all the seconds and minutes it will say wen u start a file wen i used jfw6 this didn't happen any ideas from stewart ross. tune in to http://laserhothits.servemp3.com:8130/listen.pls email stewartr...@sky.com msn stewart-r...@hotmail.co.uk skype stewartross - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb ncr...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:17 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 Question Larry: Tap the letter L more than once instead of F, and you'll get the results you want. Incidentally, if you ever need to listen to a file quickly in reverse, you can tap J a couple of times to speed it up going backwards. The letter K will stop your fast forward movement, and the cursor, if you will, will be at that point where you stopped listening rather than at the beginning of the file or somewhere else no longer relevant. Regards, Nolan To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Another way is to tab to the side you want to mute and hit alt p followed by m. That will mute the selected side for the whole file. If you only want to mute part of it, simply select that part, tab to that channel and hit alt p m. 锦发/Steady Goh About Steady Groh 吴锦发 - Original Message - From: Barry Chapman To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi Chris, One way of doing what you want in Sound Forge is to do the following. 1. Record all of your clips on both channels as normal. 2. Convert to mono if the left and right channels contain different things (i.e. are in stereo) and you want a combination of both channels to appear in one. 3. Open a new file and create a file of silence which is longer than any of the sections you wish to mute. 4. Copy this new file to the clipboard with Ctrl+a and ctrl+c. 5. Switch back to the original file with ctrl+f6. 6. As you know, pressing tab cycles between left channel, right channel and both. If you want to mute the left channel, tab until you only hear the left channel and select the section of recording you wish to mute using the i and o keys. I'm sure you know how to do this. 7. From the edit menu, select paste special and overwrite. This will overwrite only as much of the left channel as you have selected with the silence from the other file. You will get a warning about copying two channels to one, but just select OK. You can probably avoid this warning if you record your silence file in mono. 8. Repeat steps 6 and 7 as above for the right channel. I hope this helps. Regards, Barry Chapman - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:55 AM Subject: Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Hi Chris, One way of doing what you want in Sound Forge is to do the following. 1. Record all of your clips on both channels as normal. 2. Convert to mono if the left and right channels contain different things (i.e. are in stereo) and you want a combination of both channels to appear in one. 3. Open a new file and create a file of silence which is longer than any of the sections you wish to mute. 4. Copy this new file to the clipboard with Ctrl+a and ctrl+c. 5. Switch back to the original file with ctrl+f6. 6. As you know, pressing tab cycles between left channel, right channel and both. If you want to mute the left channel, tab until you only hear the left channel and select the section of recording you wish to mute using the i and o keys. I'm sure you know how to do this. 7. From the edit menu, select paste special and overwrite. This will overwrite only as much of the left channel as you have selected with the silence from the other file. You will get a warning about copying two channels to one, but just select OK. You can probably avoid this warning if you record your silence file in mono. 8. Repeat steps 6 and 7 as above for the right channel. I hope this helps. Regards, Barry Chapman - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:55 AM Subject: Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: 7/04/2008 6:38 PM
Fw: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Hi again Chris, In step 2 of my previous message, I said convert to mono. What I meant was to mix the left and right channels (there is an option for doing this). You still want to end up with a stereo file. Regards, Barry Chapman - Original Message - From: Barry Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi Chris, One way of doing what you want in Sound Forge is to do the following. 1. Record all of your clips on both channels as normal. 2. Convert to mono if the left and right channels contain different things (i.e. are in stereo) and you want a combination of both channels to appear in one. 3. Open a new file and create a file of silence which is longer than any of the sections you wish to mute. 4. Copy this new file to the clipboard with Ctrl+a and ctrl+c. 5. Switch back to the original file with ctrl+f6. 6. As you know, pressing tab cycles between left channel, right channel and both. If you want to mute the left channel, tab until you only hear the left channel and select the section of recording you wish to mute using the i and o keys. I'm sure you know how to do this. 7. From the edit menu, select paste special and overwrite. This will overwrite only as much of the left channel as you have selected with the silence from the other file. You will get a warning about copying two channels to one, but just select OK. You can probably avoid this warning if you record your silence file in mono. 8. Repeat steps 6 and 7 as above for the right channel. I hope this helps. Regards, Barry Chapman - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:55 AM Subject: Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
So, that I understand you want to ping the channels back and forth between left and right channels while a third file plays through both? It sounds like you will be doing a lot of overlaying where you would mix in that left only channel over the main channel and create a long silence before mixing in the right only channel. ** A mind is a terrible thing robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click to call me http://me.vonage.com/robwright - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 12:00 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
I wish I still had my copy of audition because it would be the easier way of doing that. though I still have an older copy of Cool Edit that does multitracking. ** A mind is a terrible thing robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click to call me http://me.vonage.com/robwright - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
If you had Gold Wave I could help you achieve that,plus any number of other cool tricks with panning. Bruce -- Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Chris Skarstad wrote: Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8
Well, I do have goldwave, in fact I just got the latest version, plus the latest JAWS scripts. so we're cool! At 12:25 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote: If you had Gold Wave I could help you achieve that,plus any number of other cool tricks with panning. Bruce -- Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Chris Skarstad wrote: Hi Well, I atempted this, and either I'm doing something wrong, or sound forge is misbehaving. I think what needs to happen is the source files i have need to be in one channel only, but again, there's the rub, i'm not sure how to do that. In this instance, the production would sound something like this... you would hear a sound in the left channel *only* and then you would hear a voice in both channels, followed by a sound that appears in the right channel *only* So you get that kind of effect where it bounces all over the place. I know writing it out doesn't do it justice, but that's what it would sound like. What happens when I use the tab key and the sound only plays through one channel, it only plays through that channel as long as it's set that way. I basically need to take 2 of these sound clips, and mute one channel in each of them. I hope I've explained this right? Thanks. At 01:47 AM 4/9/2008, you wrote: Press tab, the first press selects the left channel, the second press selects the right channel. Pressing a third time selects both again. If you with to highlight the entire channel, don't hit control-A, hit control-shift-end, if at the beginning or control-shift-home if you're at the end. Curtis Delzer - Original Message - From: Chris Skarstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: selecting only one channel for a sound in sound forge 8 Hi guys I'm atempting to do some production work and I have this idea for something but I'm not quite sure how to pull it off, so I'm hoping one of you guys can assist me. As it says in the subject line, I'm using Sound Forge 8. I'm just not able to afford version 9 at the moment so you know how it is, you work with what you have. In this production, I have a bunch of short audio clips and i have no problem mix pasting them all together on top of a music bed, that part's easy. What I want to do however, and I'm pretty sure SF 8 can do this but I'm not sure? but what I want to do is take one of these sound clips, set it to only play on the left channel, and then just after that one, i want another one to play only on the right channel. I've been through all the options, and a friend of mine suggested maybe using mute, because in an earlier version, you can only mute one channel. That's essentially what I need to do but I'm not sure how. Even more curious is the fact that if I press the tab key once, the sound of the file only goes through the left, then another press of the tab key goes over to the right, and then a third press brings us back to both channels. I would need to figure out how to get one of these sounds to only play through one channel, so I hope this can be done. i do have other recording programs like Goldwave and Studio Recorder so I'm all set with the actual programs, but just need to know how to do this. Thanks for any thoughts! Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
take 2, sound forge 8 and .rm files
hi all, didn't get any responses to this one and i can't believe with the wealth of experience on this list, there isn't someone who can answer! smile. is it possible to get soundforge 8 (either as it is or via a plug in) to play and edit .rm files? kevin - (lord l) Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: take 2, sound forge 8 and .rm files
I'm not sure Kevin. All I know is when I save a wav file as .rm, Sound Forge asks me if I want to play it. If I say yes, it launches Real player. Ted. kevin and Emma wrote: hi all, didn't get any responses to this one and i can't believe with the wealth of experience on this list, there isn't someone who can answer! smile. is it possible to get soundforge 8 (either as it is or via a plug in) to play and edit .rm files? kevin - (lord l) Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hurray! sound forge 8 does record
Yes, but you have to set the type of recording to be time. If you do that, start, end and length fields will appear and you can fill these in. - Original Message - From: Doc To: PC audio discussion list. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: hurray! sound forge 8 does record can I preset the length of my recording. In other words can I input 30 minutes and have it only record those 30 minutes? ** %TAG% WRIGHTJAMS I bet somewhere at home you still have those stacks of wax! Those tunes that bring back special memories. You?ve looked near and far but not all are available on cd. What are you to do? Let wrightjams convert those LPs and cassettes for you. Wright jams can take those 33s and 45s and recreate them for you on cd in the best quality possible. Pricing: LPS???.$15.00 45S???.$15.00 FOR A GROUP OF 15 Cassetttes.. Prerecorded $15.00 home made $20.00 Bulk rate: 5% off the total charge for every five LP's or cassettes. Contact doc wright email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to arrange an appointment. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net skype: talmidim msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Sound forge 8, what did i do?
Hi guys and gals, I've been using sound forge with window-eyes since version 4.5 of sf. I could always route my mouse cursor to the bottom of the screen. Then doing one line up, I would hear the status line, sample rate, length, bit rate, stereo or mono, etc. One more line up would read me the two numbers of the meters, I.e. -3 -3 or whatever. Okay, here's my problem. I must have inadvertently hit a wrong key somewhere along the line, recently, because, instead of the two numbers I used to get in the second line up, it now just says cpu cpu. Does anyone have any idea of what I might have done and how, short of re installing sf, I can change it back to what it used to be? Any help would sure be appreciated. Rusty Be happy. Talk happiness. Happiness calls out responsive gladness in others. There is enough sadness in the world without yours. (Helen Keller) Check out my web site at: http://www.thesoundzone.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
may i know how to do it on soundforge? - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:18 AM Subject: Re: sound forge 8, sfk files? Golden! Producing music with instruments and voice is possible with any recording program but the procedure would vary with each program. I believe you have Goldwave? Do you have Sound Forge? You can do it in MP3 as well as WAV. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
Golden! You make more than one recording, each recording in a separate window. You copy the contents of one window to the clipboard, navigate to the window whose contents you want mixed with what's in the clipboard, go to Edit, Mix. You probably want the first choice in the list so just press enter. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
i'd like to mix music and voice. may i know how to do it? is this only possible in wav format? or, is it also possible on mp3? thanks. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: Re: sound forge 8, sfk files? Mac! I'm looking around here. I guess it's Options, Preferences, File then check the box labeled Delete temporary files on close. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
you can also do this in mp3 format. Brandon - Original Message - From: golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:18 AM Subject: Re: sound forge 8, sfk files? i'd like to mix music and voice. may i know how to do it? is this only possible in wav format? or, is it also possible on mp3? thanks. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: Re: sound forge 8, sfk files? Mac! I'm looking around here. I guess it's Options, Preferences, File then check the box labeled Delete temporary files on close. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
Golden! Producing music with instruments and voice is possible with any recording program but the procedure would vary with each program. I believe you have Goldwave? Do you have Sound Forge? You can do it in MP3 as well as WAV. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
John! You do not have to keep the SFK files. If you do delete them however it will take Sound Forge longer to open the corresponding audio file. There is even a setting in Sound Forge to suppress the creation of SFK files. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
Jerry, What is that setting, to suppress SFK? Thanks, -Mac- - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:30 AM Subject: Re: sound forge 8, sfk files? John! You do not have to keep the SFK files. If you do delete them however it will take Sound Forge longer to open the corresponding audio file. There is even a setting in Sound Forge to suppress the creation of SFK files. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
Mac! I'm looking around here. I guess it's Options, Preferences, File then check the box labeled Delete temporary files on close. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
I will try that; thanks! - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: Re: sound forge 8, sfk files? Mac! I'm looking around here. I guess it's Options, Preferences, File then check the box labeled Delete temporary files on close. Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder with USB, $399.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
sound forge 8, sfk files?
I am a new user to Sound Forge, version 8 and to Sound forge, as well. I notice that the program generates sfk files. Do I need to keep those? John ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, sfk files?
yes, you need to keep them for if you want to open the file you were working with at a later date. Brandon - Original Message - From: John Schwery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: sound forge 8, sfk files? I am a new user to Sound Forge, version 8 and to Sound forge, as well. I notice that the program generates sfk files. Do I need to keep those? John ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Sound forge 8 and downloading presets
Hi everyone. I am using SF8 and, while poking around on the Sony web site, I found some presets that looked pretty interesting, so I downloaded some of them. I have installed the Preset Manager, and read the accompanying documentation, but I cannot figure out how to import the .sfi files into Sound Forge. Any help in this regard would be much appreciated. Also, does anyone know where else I can download other presets? Since presets are the real power behind SF, I'd like to have more of them to work with. Thanks in advance for any insights. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Can not open wav file with sound forge 8.
Hello! I have a demo of Soundforge 8.0 here. And when i try to open a wav file it really do not want to open it. A message appears as folloes. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8 manual
Roger! There are unlocked PDFs of the Sound Forge 8.0 and Noise Reduction 2.0 manuals at www.chirpingbat.com/manuals Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.5: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $225, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
sound forge 8 manual
does anyone have a good copy of the sound forge 8 manual and any good manual for the noise reduction plug in thanks all over the place as my good friend jim would say... Roger R. Cusson Computer Access Specialist Seeing Hands Enterprises - Lisbon, Maine (207) 353-5007 Skype Contact: rcusson A quote to live by: Any program that works perfectly, just hasn't been tested properly! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8
Hi Michael If you're looking for very simple editing, try GoldWave. There are Jaws scripts for it which make it extremely useable. I got up and running within 30 minutes. It's not as extensive as Sound Forge, but for me, I found GoldWave much easier. At least for simple things. HF - Original Message - From: Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 1:58 PM Subject: sound forge 8 i think i posted a message before, but not sure if i got a responce, did you guys, or do you guys, use sound forge eight? if so, could someone help me with editing a part of a song? thanks! i'm broadcasting my love to jessica at http://blindyradio.dyndns.info:8000 tune in, and listen! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
sound forge 8
i think i posted a message before, but not sure if i got a responce, did you guys, or do you guys, use sound forge eight? if so, could someone help me with editing a part of a song? thanks! i'm broadcasting my love to jessica at http://blindyradio.dyndns.info:8000 tune in, and listen! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech
hi. hit the insert+s key in jfw until it says none. that should hopefuly solv that problem - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech I'm just getting truly immersed into JAWS, so please forgive my incredibly inept question. I'm using Sound Forge 8 with JAWS 7, as the subject line indicates. When I save a file in Sound Forge, JAWS repeatedly speaks the name of the file and gives the percentage saved. I've turned off the progress announcements for this particular application. Not only do I hear the progress bar, I hear it in the most annoying way. It begins by saying s s s s s several times, then sa sa sa sa sa sa then it adds the v and so on. I've no doubt that there are scores of you who are using JFW 7 with Sound Forge 8. I suspect you've all long ago solved this, and again I ask your forgiveness in advance for such a truly off the wall question. Is there some kind of view I need to change in Sound Forge to end the repetitive speaking of the progress bar? I'd love to get a percentage every few seconds, but I doubt seriously turning on the progress bar would change the fact that the screen reader just continues to add letters and numbers until it speaks the entire progress bar. It seems to behave that way whether I'm using the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. I've no doubt this is a simple fix--probably embarrassingly simple. So please, by all means, embarrass me with the right answer. smile Kindest Regards, Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Is there any hope after undo all in Sound Forge 8?
I was up all night working on something and wanted to undo what I thought was only going to be the mix process I was learning to use in Sound Forge 8, when I unwisely and incorrectly hit undo all. Is there any hope of recovering all the work I zapped as a result of my inexperience? Sheila Styron, President Guide Dog Users, Inc. 816-363-3172 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:09 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: flash card recorder Hi all, Thanks for the tips about the site. It's a real treasure trove! Way cool. However after having listened to the review, i got even more unsure and my new question to the list is, has anyone used the M-Audio Microtrack 24/96 and how does it compare to an R1? I believe you can get a Microtrack here in Sweden. Thanks again for the tips, i might just subscribe to that podcast.:-) /Krister Brian Hansen wrote: Hi Krister, You can find a review on the R1 at: http://www.blindcooltech.com/ I hope this helps. Blessings, Brian - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:31 AM Subject: Re: flash card recorder Hello to the list, Firstly an intro since i'm new here though many might know me. My name is Krister Ekstrom and i live in Sweden and i've been around on various lists for a while now, for example the midi-mag list. I'm very interested to hear about the blind friendlyness of the Edirol R1 and also the portability of it. Has anyone done a review of it from a blindness perspective and where might one find it and if not, could someone who owns an R1 tell me a little about it? Right now i'm shopping for a new recording media and it stands between a Sony Mz-m100, md player which doesn't seem to be available in Sweden and an R1. Thanks for any info you can give. /Krister Brent Harding wrote: I suppose the IRiver mp3 player/recorders won't really cut it because editing anything compressed and then recompressing will likely give less than optimal sound. Since I don't like MS media player that much, if I convert anything for listening that was in that format, it goes to wave files. I usually delete shows I've listened to after I do so. I use imtoo to make mpeg-2 into wave files, figuring going one compression factor to another would give me more noise and the like and TV has enough of that to go around. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: RE: flash card recorder Joe I've skipped this thread so this may have been mentioned, but it sounds like the Edirol R-1 would be perfect for what you want, or if you can wait a month or two, its successor the R-09. The Minx, the Internet radio station that plays all the great love songs. http://www.the-minx.com Jonathan Mosen Blog, podcast and radio show: http://www.MosenExplosion.com Ph: +1-925-566-9265. Mobile/SMS +1-806-252-6671 -Original Message- From: Joe Bollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 1:18 p.m. To: pc -audio Subject: flash card recorder thanks michael, what i am looking for is a high class professional flash card recorder, i do radio interviews along with interviews for the audio magazine of which i am the editor, are you saying that the ICDMX 20 WOULD NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THAT TYPE OF WORK, IF NOT, COULD YOU RECOMMEND A FLASH CARD RECORDER THAT WOULD DO THE JOB, THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST, JOE. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines
Re: Is there any hope after undo all in Sound Forge 8?
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Glitchy sound in sound forge 8
I have been using sound forge 8 for a couple of months and am just this evening encountering a problem I haven't had in the past. I have recorded two rather long books in sections, I mean me myself reading them into a microphone and then editing and saving them. Tonight, I am opening previously recorded files and finding that when I play them in Sound Forge, they bleep in and out in this sort of regular pattern and I don't knowwhat I should have a look at. Since I'm not very techy, this may be obvious to many of you, but I would appreciate your help. Sheila Styron, President Guide Dog Users, Inc. 816-363-3172 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech
Hi Nolan: The problem that you are having is due to the fact that the saving process is continually updated highlighted text. Jaws, by default, automatically speaks highlighted text. If you press Insert-S, (screen echo options), you can cycle through those screen echoing options which are: all, highlighted which is the default, or none. Just set the option to none while the program is in the saving process; afterwhich, you would want to set the window speaking option back to highlighted. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech I'm just getting truly immersed into JAWS, so please forgive my incredibly inept question. I'm using Sound Forge 8 with JAWS 7, as the subject line indicates. When I save a file in Sound Forge, JAWS repeatedly speaks the name of the file and gives the percentage saved. I've turned off the progress announcements for this particular application. Not only do I hear the progress bar, I hear it in the most annoying way. It begins by saying s s s s s several times, then sa sa sa sa sa sa then it adds the v and so on. I've no doubt that there are scores of you who are using JFW 7 with Sound Forge 8. I suspect you've all long ago solved this, and again I ask your forgiveness in advance for such a truly off the wall question. Is there some kind of view I need to change in Sound Forge to end the repetitive speaking of the progress bar? I'd love to get a percentage every few seconds, but I doubt seriously turning on the progress bar would change the fact that the screen reader just continues to add letters and numbers until it speaks the entire progress bar. It seems to behave that way whether I'm using the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. I've no doubt this is a simple fix--probably embarrassingly simple. So please, by all means, embarrass me with the right answer. smile Kindest Regards, Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech
I've noticed that too when I use Soundforge! - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech I'm just getting truly immersed into JAWS, so please forgive my incredibly inept question. I'm using Sound Forge 8 with JAWS 7, as the subject line indicates. When I save a file in Sound Forge, JAWS repeatedly speaks the name of the file and gives the percentage saved. I've turned off the progress announcements for this particular application. Not only do I hear the progress bar, I hear it in the most annoying way. It begins by saying s s s s s several times, then sa sa sa sa sa sa then it adds the v and so on. I've no doubt that there are scores of you who are using JFW 7 with Sound Forge 8. I suspect you've all long ago solved this, and again I ask your forgiveness in advance for such a truly off the wall question. Is there some kind of view I need to change in Sound Forge to end the repetitive speaking of the progress bar? I'd love to get a percentage every few seconds, but I doubt seriously turning on the progress bar would change the fact that the screen reader just continues to add letters and numbers until it speaks the entire progress bar. It seems to behave that way whether I'm using the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. I've no doubt this is a simple fix--probably embarrassingly simple. So please, by all means, embarrass me with the right answer. smile Kindest Regards, Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Sound Forge 8, JAWS 7, and repetitive Speech
I'm just getting truly immersed into JAWS, so please forgive my incredibly inept question. I'm using Sound Forge 8 with JAWS 7, as the subject line indicates. When I save a file in Sound Forge, JAWS repeatedly speaks the name of the file and gives the percentage saved. I've turned off the progress announcements for this particular application. Not only do I hear the progress bar, I hear it in the most annoying way. It begins by saying s s s s s several times, then sa sa sa sa sa sa then it adds the v and so on. I've no doubt that there are scores of you who are using JFW 7 with Sound Forge 8. I suspect you've all long ago solved this, and again I ask your forgiveness in advance for such a truly off the wall question. Is there some kind of view I need to change in Sound Forge to end the repetitive speaking of the progress bar? I'd love to get a percentage every few seconds, but I doubt seriously turning on the progress bar would change the fact that the screen reader just continues to add letters and numbers until it speaks the entire progress bar. It seems to behave that way whether I'm using the PC cursor or the JAWS cursor. I've no doubt this is a simple fix--probably embarrassingly simple. So please, by all means, embarrass me with the right answer. smile Kindest Regards, Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hello Brent, On Sunday, January 8, 2006, 9:27:40 PM, you bellowed the following: I think you can have more on the device, just not more than that in any one file. I guess recording TV wouldn't be possible in 98, it runs about 2 gigs per hour on mpeg-2, heh. Yeah, that's even a limit on the wav format in general. If you want to save audio bigger than 2GB, you'll need to save as raw PCM data with no wav header. On a fat32 system, you can't have files bigger than 4GB period, no matter what the format is. The biggest single audio file I've dealt with in sound forge was 8.4GB, which was I think a 9-hour recording at 44.100 KHZ stereo. -- Good Monday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hello Jerry, On Sunday, January 8, 2006, 11:52:26 AM, you bellowed the following: The things I find nice about Sound Forge 8.0 are the ability to start a recording based on time or audio level and the ability to scrub through a file. Yeah, the audio level thing is nice, but it's kind of annoying that you have to reset the threshold each time you press record, even on the same open project. Each time you do, it sets the threshold to -10 DB, which is way too high for most stuff I record using this method. I mostly use it for things with unpredictable dynamics, such as stuff going on in a room, or recording things that have really long gaps in them so as not to waste hard drive space. plus, the re-arm after recording checkbox gets unchecked. So, once something drops below -10DB for 5 seconds, it stops recording and doesn't start again. Pretty crappy for defaults if you ask me... Also, in order to get better use the automatic threshold feature, you'll need to use it with the record buffer feature in order to make sure you don't miss anything prior to when anything goes at or above the threshold, and thus, starts recording. Otherwise, it will just kind of click in. This is a problem with just about anything that does this, but fortunately sound forge does have the buffer to compensate, and it works pretty well. -- Good Monday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
It's a handy feature for, say, recording off of NASA TV. I just had Gold Wave record in response to a certain threshold, told it to stop after a second of silence, and told it to start recording half a second before the threshold was crossed. What resulted was a nice tight, but not choppy-sounding recording of the shuttle launch. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Patrick Perdue wrote: Hello Jerry, On Sunday, January 8, 2006, 11:52:26 AM, you bellowed the following: The things I find nice about Sound Forge 8.0 are the ability to start a recording based on time or audio level and the ability to scrub through a file. Yeah, the audio level thing is nice, but it's kind of annoying that you have to reset the threshold each time you press record, even on the same open project. Each time you do, it sets the threshold to -10 DB, which is way too high for most stuff I record using this method. I mostly use it for things with unpredictable dynamics, such as stuff going on in a room, or recording things that have really long gaps in them so as not to waste hard drive space. plus, the re-arm after recording checkbox gets unchecked. So, once something drops below -10DB for 5 seconds, it stops recording and doesn't start again. Pretty crappy for defaults if you ask me... Also, in order to get better use the automatic threshold feature, you'll need to use it with the record buffer feature in order to make sure you don't miss anything prior to when anything goes at or above the threshold, and thus, starts recording. Otherwise, it will just kind of click in. This is a problem with just about anything that does this, but fortunately sound forge does have the buffer to compensate, and it works pretty well. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I think you can have more on the device, just not more than that in any one file. I guess recording TV wouldn't be possible in 98, it runs about 2 gigs per hour on mpeg-2, heh. - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:21 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you made them going forward, after you've reversed the right channel, the markers will be close to where the reversed sides begin' or' end, but you'll have to hunt a bit. Make new markers at the beginning and end of where you wish to create your regions, so in that way if the left or right end of the region area gets lost or unselected, you can readily find it again. I just recorded, finished, Undue Influence, by Steven Martini tonight, while the Rose Bowl was going on, GO TEXAS! :) They did win, during side 10 about 30 minutes before I finished the initial recording before processing. At 04:47 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds fantastic! I, presume, you do have the sound forge noise reduction plug in, so
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I played around with a demo of SF someone had once, I think I like the interface better, for what it's worth, the synthesis feature is easier to use. Now, it's just detecting in software what you synthesize so it might actually be of some use for something. Some guy on a forum online says his system detects and responds to tones in files completely with software, maybe he went overkill and used dragon preferred or something. - Original Message - From: Tyler Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions That is, after you spend the $200 for soundforge, and why I am stil wondering why does sound forge cost so much compaired to gold wave, unless it has 200 features that gold wave doesn't, I'm not spending that much. Not after I spend $50, at the most, for gold wave, and why I'm buying gold wave. Tyler - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I bet studio recorder is expensive as SF, they barely added dynamic compression and mixing. I think it only accepts 44.1 sample rate, if you feed it 48k, some programs do want to output to that by default, don't think it will work. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Tyler! For most people most of the time Goldwave does everything they need. Most of the things that Sound Forge can do that Goldwave can't are not even understood by most people, me included. Not so long ago Sound Forge cost three times what it does now. Liken it to a cell phone. I have a cheap cell phone. I place and receive calls. Some people do the same thing with a Blackberry and that's all they use it for. As far as those people are concerned both devices do the same thing so why should they spend $500 when they can get by for $20? Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Curtis! I can't sell you Noise Reduction 2.0 for $75 and neither will Sony. But the good news is that you can probably use your old Noise Reduction 2.0. Go to www.sony.com/mediasoftware and click on My Account. Sign up there and see what software Sony has registered to you. If Noise Reduction 2.0 shows up there then you're good to go. If it doesn't show up there call Sony at 1-800-577-6642 and explain your problem. They will probably help you out. I can call them on your behalf if you'd rather. I do it often for customers. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Thanks, the problem is that this computer had it on it when I got it, oh well. I'll probably call them and see what they say about it. At 10:07 AM 1/7/2006, you wrote: Curtis! I can't sell you Noise Reduction 2.0 for $75 and neither will Sony. But the good news is that you can probably use your old Noise Reduction 2.0. Go to www.sony.com/mediasoftware and click on My Account. Sign up there and see what software Sony has registered to you. If Noise Reduction 2.0 shows up there then you're good to go. If it doesn't show up there call Sony at 1-800-577-6642 and explain your problem. They will probably help you out. I can call them on your behalf if you'd rather. I do it often for customers. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hello Bruce, On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 11:03:08 PM, you bellowed the following: One thing is that Gold Wave is pretty much a one-man operation, where as Sound forge is brought to you by teh same people who mass-marketed blank CD's and then charge you for using them. True, although Sony hasn't screwed it up yet. When they do, I'll probably go to Adobe Audition or something. I dread that, because Audition is so slow at rendering things, but I'd use that over Goldwave any day. -- Good Friday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hello Bruce, On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 10:39:29 PM, you bellowed the following: I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Well, I bought goldwave in 1998 after using it for a year as a demo, then two more years before switching to sound forge, and sure, it's accessible and easy to use for what it is, but the interface is a might too non-standard/clunky for me. The whole start/end marker thing is a bit of a pain to deal with if you don't know ahead of time where you're going to be if you're zipping arounmd in huge increments of a multi-hour long file as I do often in sound forge. I like the one cursor approach myself -- very easy to deal with, and it's a lot easier to quickly jump outside of a selection you've made without selecting the entire file, or going into an edit box and typing in numbers, or jumpng to a queue point that you may have had to set up before starting, which then may have changed as certain parts of the file get editted out. Also, the DirectX manager isn't very accessible yet, and Goldwave just doesn't have the mastering capability I need. It's compressor is, well, a bit plastic, and the noise reduction algorithm is based from FFT, which does the whole under-water thing. It's saving crase is that the pop/crackle removal thing works pretty well on digital cracks such as continuous DC offset issues, but not very well on things like restoring vinyl. The biggest advantage of keeping goldwave for me though is the format support it has. Coming from a non-corperate environment, it does support more formats than sound forge probably ever will, which I do like still. It's kind of interesting to note that goldwave seems to have a bigger learning curve than sound forge does, at least for basic editting, even for sighted folks from what I've read. I started my audio editting existence on goldwave, and didn't like sound forge at all at first, because.. well, it was too standard and a shock to get used to word processing editting concepts applied to audio in such a fassion, which I know sounds a bit strange, but there you are. -- Good Friday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
And your reasons? I'm not doubting you, but if Gold Wave is so much worse than these, I'd like to know why as it'd influence my decision. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Patrick Perdue wrote: Hello Bruce, On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 11:03:08 PM, you bellowed the following: One thing is that Gold Wave is pretty much a one-man operation, where as Sound forge is brought to you by teh same people who mass-marketed blank CD's and then charge you for using them. True, although Sony hasn't screwed it up yet. When they do, I'll probably go to Adobe Audition or something. I dread that, because Audition is so slow at rendering things, but I'd use that over Goldwave any day. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Okay, you just answered my previous question. Well, I don't have four or five hundred Canadian to spend on Sound Forge, and I've gotten quite fast with Gold Wave's interface and never much cared for Sound Forge's. And I've been very surprised in recent months, after avoiding it, to discover that Gold Wave's noise reduction has come an awful long way. Its recent ability to use Winamp plugins to control output has also been a major plus. All my radio shows and other sound editing are done with Gold Wave. So I guess it's largely a preference thing, though I will continue to suggest that the benefits of SF over GW are not $3 or $3 hundred worth. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Patrick Perdue wrote: Hello Bruce, On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 10:39:29 PM, you bellowed the following: I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Well, I bought goldwave in 1998 after using it for a year as a demo, then two more years before switching to sound forge, and sure, it's accessible and easy to use for what it is, but the interface is a might too non-standard/clunky for me. The whole start/end marker thing is a bit of a pain to deal with if you don't know ahead of time where you're going to be if you're zipping arounmd in huge increments of a multi-hour long file as I do often in sound forge. I like the one cursor approach myself -- very easy to deal with, and it's a lot easier to quickly jump outside of a selection you've made without selecting the entire file, or going into an edit box and typing in numbers, or jumpng to a queue point that you may have had to set up before starting, which then may have changed as certain parts of the file get editted out. Also, the DirectX manager isn't very accessible yet, and Goldwave just doesn't have the mastering capability I need. It's compressor is, well, a bit plastic, and the noise reduction algorithm is based from FFT, which does the whole under-water thing. It's saving crase is that the pop/crackle removal thing works pretty well on digital cracks such as continuous DC offset issues, but not very well on things like restoring vinyl. The biggest advantage of keeping goldwave for me though is the format support it has. Coming from a non-corperate environment, it does support more formats than sound forge probably ever will, which I do like still. It's kind of interesting to note that goldwave seems to have a bigger learning curve than sound forge does, at least for basic editting, even for sighted folks from what I've read. I started my audio editting existence on goldwave, and didn't like sound forge at all at first, because.. well, it was too standard and a shock to get used to word processing editting concepts applied to audio in such a fassion, which I know sounds a bit strange, but there you are. -- Good Friday, ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
No, I'm encoding initially at 44,100 double speed tape then sampling down to 22.500 or whatever it is. I've never had a problem with disks being filled, probably because I don't save in wav formats. I don't know much about it, but it appears that the .pca (perfect clarity audio) is some kind of a compression scheme. Since I double speed everything that goes into the Book Port, that file is reduced by at least half and actually a little more than half by the time it hits my flash card. I have a 2 gig flash card in there, so no worries about ever running out, especially since I'm compressing the audio. Truthfully, considering the space I save, and considering the quality of NLS tapes in the first place, 24 KBPS sounds absolutely fine for what I'm doing. I always change them to mono as part of the digitization process anyway. I was encoding at 16 KBPS when I had a lower capacity flash card in the Book Port. Sixteen KBPS is acceptable for an NLS book or magazine, but it's not pretty, and it's not what you would want to quietly move to a CD for later reading some day down the road. I always knew that as soon as I was done with the book or the mag, I'd delete it. As for taking out references to the cassette, in the magazines, when I digitize the table of contents, I even take out that side one tone 3 type stuff. What's left is the story name, the page number on which it appears, and the reading time. I refuse to tinker with those files much more than that; after a while, you start getting to a point where you're putting more work into the digitization process than it's worth, unless you're going to keep the book or magazine as some kind of lovely little keepsake thingy. So far, I haven't read a book good enough to warrant keeping it around forever and ever. Nolan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:21 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Well, wait then! I bought CD Architect with Sound Forge. How can I be sure I really don't have the plug-in? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richer Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:55 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Noise Reduction 2.0 does come with Sound forge 8.0 currently as well as CD Architect 5.2 for $225. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
in my version, the noise reduction plug in is on a separate cd... Hope this helps, Judy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nolan Crabb Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:20 AM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Well, wait then! I bought CD Architect with Sound Forge. How can I be sure I really don't have the plug-in? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richer Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 6:55 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Noise Reduction 2.0 does come with Sound forge 8.0 currently as well as CD Architect 5.2 for $225. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
If I have this version of Noise Reduction from a previous version of Sound Forge, can I continue to use it with version 8? Gary King, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Sony's Noise Reduction is in fact called Noise Reduction 2.0 and would have come on a separate CD. Noise Reduction by itself from the Sony web site is $279.99 but you can purchase Sound Forge 8.0, Noise Reduction 2.0 and CD Architect 5.2 from Chirping Bat for $225, includes shipping within the United States. Noise Reduction 2.0 is not part of Sound Forge. It is a separate product. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 1/4/06 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Even as an update to SF 5.0? My wife payed $149 for that for me for Christmas, so both for $225? I mean can I pay $75 more now for the 2.0A version of the NR? I have mine on an old computer, preinstalled so probably have to buy a new install for it. Thanks! Curtis Delzer At 04:54 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote: Noise Reduction 2.0 does come with Sound forge 8.0 currently as well as CD Architect 5.2 for $225. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Oh yeah but while you're recording you're writing *.wav files by default, no matter what you save too, that was why I was wondering. You must have NFS (or whatever the native XP file system is, mine was updated from 98 and I wanted to have access at the system level from dos so still use fat32. Why do you write 2 compressed files since if the native source is *.wav you could just write your *.mp3 files from it which would be closer to source and save you a step, just curious. Curtis Delzer At 04:55 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote: No, I'm encoding initially at 44,100 double speed tape then sampling down to 22.500 or whatever it is. I've never had a problem with disks being filled, probably because I don't save in wav formats. I don't know much about it, but it appears that the .pca (perfect clarity audio) is some kind of a compression scheme. Since I double speed everything that goes into the Book Port, that file is reduced by at least half and actually a little more than half by the time it hits my flash card. I have a 2 gig flash card in there, so no worries about ever running out, especially since I'm compressing the audio. Truthfully, considering the space I save, and considering the quality of NLS tapes in the first place, 24 KBPS sounds absolutely fine for what I'm doing. I always change them to mono as part of the digitization process anyway. I was encoding at 16 KBPS when I had a lower capacity flash card in the Book Port. Sixteen KBPS is acceptable for an NLS book or magazine, but it's not pretty, and it's not what you would want to quietly move to a CD for later reading some day down the road. I always knew that as soon as I was done with the book or the mag, I'd delete it. As for taking out references to the cassette, in the magazines, when I digitize the table of contents, I even take out that side one tone 3 type stuff. What's left is the story name, the page number on which it appears, and the reading time. I refuse to tinker with those files much more than that; after a while, you start getting to a point where you're putting more work into the digitization process than it's worth, unless you're going to keep the book or magazine as some kind of lovely little keepsake thingy. So far, I haven't read a book good enough to warrant keeping it around forever and ever. Nolan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:21 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Jerry, What is there about version 8 and CD Architect that should make one upgrade from version 6? Regards, Mac Norins - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Noise Reduction 2.0 does come with Sound forge 8.0 currently as well as CD Architect 5.2 for $225. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Tyler! For most people most of the time Goldwave does everything they need. Most of the things that Sound Forge can do that Goldwave can't are not even understood by most people, me included. Not so long ago Sound Forge cost three times what it does now. Liken it to a cell phone. I have a cheap cell phone. I place and receive calls. Some people do the same thing with a Blackberry and that's all they use it for. As far as those people are concerned both devices do the same thing so why should they spend $500 when they can get by for $20? Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Probably because Goldwave is less expensive than Soundforge! - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions And your reasons? I'm not doubting you, but if Gold Wave is so much worse than these, I'd like to know why as it'd influence my decision. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Patrick Perdue wrote: Hello Bruce, On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 11:03:08 PM, you bellowed the following: One thing is that Gold Wave is pretty much a one-man operation, where as Sound forge is brought to you by teh same people who mass-marketed blank CD's and then charge you for using them. True, although Sony hasn't screwed it up yet. When they do, I'll probably go to Adobe Audition or something. I dread that, because Audition is so slow at rendering things, but I'd use that over Goldwave any day. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I like gold wave and I don't exactly have $500 to spend on it, let alone $40, although I'd prefer $40 to $400 any day. I'm just curious, is gold wave so cheap because sound forge is manufactured and made by sony? I actually recently bought a sony stario, and it was...expensive. Just curious. Tyler - Original Message - From: Patrick Perdue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:51 AM Subject: Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Hello Bruce, On Thursday, January 5, 2006, 10:39:29 PM, you bellowed the following: I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Well, I bought goldwave in 1998 after using it for a year as a demo, then two more years before switching to sound forge, and sure, it's accessible and easy to use for what it is, but the interface is a might too non-standard/clunky for me. The whole start/end marker thing is a bit of a pain to deal with if you don't know ahead of time where you're going to be if you're zipping arounmd in huge increments of a multi-hour long file as I do often in sound forge. I like the one cursor approach myself -- very easy to deal with, and it's a lot easier to quickly jump outside of a selection you've made without selecting the entire file, or going into an edit box and typing in numbers, or jumpng to a queue point that you may have had to set up before starting, which then may have changed as certain parts of the file get editted out. Also, the DirectX manager isn't very accessible yet, and Goldwave just doesn't have the mastering capability I need. It's compressor is, well, a bit plastic, and the noise reduction algorithm is based from FFT, which does the whole under-water thing. It's saving crase is that the pop/crackle removal thing works pretty well on digital cracks such as continuous DC offset issues, but not very well on things like restoring vinyl. The biggest advantage of keeping goldwave for me though is the format support it has. Coming from a non-corperate environment, it does support more formats than sound forge probably ever will, which I do like still. It's kind of interesting to note that goldwave seems to have a bigger learning curve than sound forge does, at least for basic editting, even for sighted folks from what I've read. I started my audio editting existence on goldwave, and didn't like sound forge at all at first, because.. well, it was too standard and a shock to get used to word processing editting concepts applied to audio in such a fassion, which I know sounds a bit strange, but there you are. -- Good Friday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 04/01/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I agree with you Tyler. I've been using goldwave for over a year and love it. keep finding better ways of using it. When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It matters not for your job is Complete and your rewards forthcoming. robert Doc Wright http://www.wrightplaceinc.net msn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tyler Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Well then, I'll stick with gold wave, as it suits my needs and, like I said in a previous post, I don't have $500 to spend on something that I'll never even touch the features in. If you know gold waves interface well and can use it, why spend $500, especially if it can suit your needs. I'll admit, however, that I've not yet used sound forge--although whatever it offers, I don't exactly think its worth $500, compaired to $40, and you pretty much get just as much as you would with sound forge as far as I'm concerned. Tyler - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions A few years ago, Gold Wave was very much a toy as far as sound editors went. That has changed as new versions have come out. The price has not changed. One thing is that Gold Wave is pretty much a one-man operation, where as Sound forge is brought to you by teh same people who mass-marketed blank CD's and then charge you for using them. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Tyler Wood wrote: That is, after you spend the $200 for soundforge, and why I am stil wondering why does sound forge cost so much compaired to gold wave, unless it has 200 features that gold wave doesn't, I'm not spending that much. Not after I spend $50, at the most, for gold wave, and why I'm buying gold wave. Tyler - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy
Re[2]: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hello Bruce, On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 7:02:48 PM, you bellowed the following: I personally feel Noise Gate is evil and should be banned from polite society, but that's just me. Noise gates, when used properly, are really quite nice to have around, actually. However, putting them on top of a multi-layered thing at a post-production level, especially when there are a lot of dynamics involved, really is a bad idea. -- Good Thursday, -- Patrick Perdue (MCP, CNA) KE4DYI Greensboro, NC website: http://www.pdaudio.net home: +1(828)221-2971 Mobile hone and SMS: +1(336)509-5583 e-mail and .net messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: Borris For anything related to the yamaha motif line of keyboards and modules, subscribe to the motif-help mailing list by sending a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
be really pleased, I guarantee. That dec, will make a huge difference though the handi-cassette is good one track at a time, even has better or less cross talk one track at a time, but is tedious that way. Recording off that dec in your garage (when you set it up) the right channel is tracks 4 and 3 sides 1 and 2 of the tape, and you know that if you first record 1 cassette, that if you press tab it will put the left channel by itself into a way which you can work with separately. Press tab until you hear only the right channel, then reverse it all at once. Then you should down sample, normalize, noise reduce, make regions for sides (which for best results should be noise reduced separately) and then have sf make your *.wav files. Getting to those sliders for minus db can be problematic, though, fortunately I have jfw 5.0 and it's native sound forge configuration files, so the sliders can be found. You must play around a good bit in the plug-in configuration, trying up and down arrow to find out which field(s) get changed, but when you do and learn which does change that slider from about minus 12.5 db which is a default setting when using the preset for fast computers with 250 millisecond capture, you then will be amazed how well it works, again, especially, if it just hears noise such as tape hiss or hum before the recording begins. I hope all this helps. Take care and write to let me know how you're doing. Curtis Delzer At 02:06 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thanks for the outstanding advice regarding the plug-in and the handi-cassette. I knew it was a piece of something unmentionable when it came to reproducing stereo sound; I need to hunt up my old cassette deck stored in a box in the garage, and I'll do that this weekend. I wonder if we could communicate via e-mail off list so I can get a somewhat better handle on how to even begin to use that plug-in. I can't even get the auto trim crop to trim the silence off both ends of the recording appropriately--obviously operator incompetence alive, well, and at work in front of my keyboard. smile Again, Curtis, thanks for replying. I know it took time out of your life, and silly and goofy as it sounds, any time I get a reply from anyone, it's kind of a significant thing, especially when I stop and recognize how busy I get and how easy it is to just say poor slob; hope someone somewhere can figure that out for him, and hit the delete key. So when I say thanks for writing back, I truly am grateful. Where do I even go to activate the plug-in? I assume I have to select some tape hiss; that's easy enough to do. And do you do that before or after you resample? Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:18 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Sorry, but the HANDI-CASSETTE has a lot of cross talk by default, and nothing in sound forge can correct this. A better way is to use a regular stereo cassette dec and record tracks 1 and 4, then turn the cassette over and then record sides 2 and 3. This will make a file about an hour and a half long, (probably closer to about 84 or 85 minutes give or take). In SF you can press tab and get to either the left or right side, and you wish to reverse the right channel as you know. If you have the SF noise reduction plut-in, it is superlative at getting rid of the hiss. The commercial cassette stereo recorder has a much better cross talk capability, even a non expensive one. Somehow, the HANDI-CASSETTE, in stereo, is pretty lousy in this regard. If you use the sound forge noise reduction plut-in, use a facility in it which lets you sample the hiss in such a way that it is beyond the beginning of the tape and just before the narrator begins, and save the setting. You can tweak the settings to get that hiss up to 99 db below what it is, and if you do it right, the hiss will be virtually gone leaving the recording even better than the original, I know, I've done it several hundred times. Good luck! Curtis Delzer At 05:18 PM 1/3/2006, you wrote: Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
No, in that case you don't have the NR plug-in, unfortunately, and it is expensive, again unfortunately, doesn't come with version 8. I, honestly don't know what that audio restoration does in SF, haven't used it at all. I got spoiled by that NR plug-in. Curtis Delzer At 05:43 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Now I'm beginning to wonder whether I even have the plug-in at all. I assumed it actually came with version 8. That's probably not accurate. I have something called audio restoration, but I suspect that isn't the same thing. Sorry to ask such incredibly elementary questions. Is it really called noise reduction plug-in? If so, I didn't get it, and now wish to goodness I had. What is the purpose of the audio restoration setting? I assume it is designed to take the static out of LP's and such? Nolan ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Well, you can hear it working, because below a certain point, everything just goes away, and if something happens which is suppose to be just audibile enough to hear it, the noise gate might clip it off, and the more you hear it working, the more you wonder what you might be missing. Early stereo TV stations used it and it made me wish to slowly show them how it truly sounds when sight isn't distracting their ears. I mean, that is cruel torture! Curtis Delzer At 11:35 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Hi Bruce. Okay, why is that? - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I personally feel Noise Gate is evil and should be banned from polite society, but that's just me. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Graham Stoodley wrote: Nolan, I have had good results in removing crosstalk by using the Noise Gate function in the SF8 menu. That's Noise Gate rather than Noise Reduction. You need to tinker with the decibel setting - somewhere between -30 and -35 worked best for me without cutting off the speech at the end of phrases, and you still get crosstalk sometimes during the speech, but it made a big difference in the final product. I endorse Curtis's suggestion (posted later) of using a commercial stereo cassette deck, and resampling and reversing tracks to get the final result. It's a little more technically intensive, but the results are worth it. I would love to know Curtis's secret for removing as much hiss as he does with Noise Reduction. I could never achieve those results, which I am sure is more a comment on the operator than on the product. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I am using version 6. You have to buy the noise reduction plug in. It's worth the money if you are doing very precise work. It used to cost $249. Judy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nolan Crabb Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:43 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Now I'm beginning to wonder whether I even have the plug-in at all. I assumed it actually came with version 8. That's probably not accurate. I have something called audio restoration, but I suspect that isn't the same thing. Sorry to ask such incredibly elementary questions. Is it really called noise reduction plug-in? If so, I didn't get it, and now wish to goodness I had. What is the purpose of the audio restoration setting? I assume it is designed to take the static out of LP's and such? Nolan ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Or you can get Gold Wave for considerably less, and you would be very surprised, I think, at what a long way their sound processing has come. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Jerry Richer wrote: Sony's Noise Reduction is in fact called Noise Reduction 2.0 and would have come on a separate CD. Noise Reduction by itself from the Sony web site is $279.99 but you can purchase Sound Forge 8.0, Noise Reduction 2.0 and CD Architect 5.2 from Chirping Bat for $225, includes shipping within the United States. Noise Reduction 2.0 is not part of Sound Forge. It is a separate product. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you made them going forward, after you've reversed the right channel, the markers will be close to where the reversed sides begin' or' end, but you'll have to hunt a bit. Make new markers at the beginning and end of where you wish to create your regions, so in that way if the left or right end of the region area gets lost or unselected, you can readily find it again. I just recorded, finished, Undue Influence, by Steven Martini tonight, while the Rose Bowl was going on, GO TEXAS! :) They did win, during side 10 about 30 minutes before I finished the initial recording before processing. At 04:47 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds fantastic! I, presume, you do have the sound forge noise reduction plug in, so if you do, then you're going to find that it will do a magnificent job, especially if you can get it to sample the sound in such a way that it automatically picks the hiss, and/or the noise it is suppose to hear, and not what you don't want it to reduce like the voice. Since you've recorded in SF before and know how to reverse, what I do is make a region for each side of each cassette, and then have sf write those regions to specific *.wav files, and then use something else to make the mp3s at 32K or 32K with vbr so the sound is as good as it should be. I record at 44,100Hz and then change the sample rate to 22,050, (NOT RESAMPLE) just change the sample rate so the pitch halves, to resample would not change the pitch but you'd loose quality, and then apply noise reduction since the noise you wish for the NR to hear would be at the correct pitch as well. I hope some of this rambling helps. You can change the amount of noise reduction in the nr reduction plug-in, rather than use the preset of 0.250 seconds (a quarter second) (for fast computers) and then, since it's mode 1, you can then change the amount of supression in db. The sample noise checkbox should be checked, and when you first have it sample a noise, it auto unchecks itself since the nr plug-in has found
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Yes, but for $40 canadian, I can get gold wave. Why is it that sound forge is so much money? Does it have some huge feature that gold wave doesn't? Actually, gold wave does exactly what I want in the demmo, so I'm going to buy it sooner or later. Tyler PS: Jerry, I've never really gave that site a look, but it really looks nice. Who knows, I might buy something. - Original Message - From: Jerry Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Sony's Noise Reduction is in fact called Noise Reduction 2.0 and would have come on a separate CD. Noise Reduction by itself from the Sony web site is $279.99 but you can purchase Sound Forge 8.0, Noise Reduction 2.0 and CD Architect 5.2 from Chirping Bat for $225, includes shipping within the United States. Noise Reduction 2.0 is not part of Sound Forge. It is a separate product. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 04/01/2006 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you made them going forward, after you've reversed the right channel, the markers will be close to where the reversed sides begin' or' end, but you'll have to hunt a bit. Make new markers at the beginning and end of where you wish to create your regions, so in that way if the left or right end of the region area gets lost or unselected, you can readily find it again. I just recorded, finished, Undue Influence, by Steven Martini tonight, while the Rose Bowl was going on, GO TEXAS! :) They did win, during side 10 about 30 minutes before I finished the initial recording before processing. At 04:47 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
A few years ago, Gold Wave was very much a toy as far as sound editors went. That has changed as new versions have come out. The price has not changed. One thing is that Gold Wave is pretty much a one-man operation, where as Sound forge is brought to you by teh same people who mass-marketed blank CD's and then charge you for using them. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Tyler Wood wrote: That is, after you spend the $200 for soundforge, and why I am stil wondering why does sound forge cost so much compaired to gold wave, unless it has 200 features that gold wave doesn't, I'm not spending that much. Not after I spend $50, at the most, for gold wave, and why I'm buying gold wave. Tyler - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:39 PM Subject: RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I believe in Gold Wave. It's gotten a lot of knocking over the years from people who sincerely believe that anything other than Sound Forge is a hopeless program to use. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: What are you writing at first 22,050hz at 16Bit or smaller? in stereo, you could only go about 6 hours and 40 minutes at that rate before you'd fill a fat 32 disk with 2 gigabytes. 24K mp3s don't really sound that good, the smallest I do is 32K or 32K at the lowest vbr rating of the encoder engine I use, can't spell frahnhoffer but I tried, but, again, on the BP 24K mp3s I guess are ok. One mp3 at that length would be a little unwieldy to me, but that is just individual preference, and the bp does keep track of where you're reading in any case. What is a *.pca file? I am going to give GoldWave a look to see how they use noise reduction or how their native noise reduction works, it's worth the$50 because of the support to keyboards the program continues to have as well. Bruce, you're a good promulgator of the program, :) grin Curtis Delzer At 04:12 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote: No, I'm doing many of the same things you mentioned already. I'm getting rid of beginnings and endings of all sides, blowing off all references to cassettes in general. When I'm done, I have a single MP3, 24 KBPS, that works nicely in the Book Port. I dug out the deck, and the crosstalk is no more. Sixteen sides is the most I've ever digitized--made for a heck of a file, but it worked. I guess I could do all that region creation stuff, which makes sense, but I save each side as a .pca file, then I combine them and render them as a single MP3. I don't even keep the stuff about continuing on page such-and-such at the beginning of every side. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:54 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I initially forgot a couple steps, very important. After you've recorded your stereo file with each track/side in the left and right channels, you need to select the entire file and copy it to the clip board and paste it into another window, one which is mono so the sound will be in the center. OOPS, sorry about that. You can do all the processing if you wish first before you do the pasting into your mono file, but it is important if you can, to put markers while the initial recording is being made when the cassette sides end so you can find them in an 8 side file, for example, which is just about the limit for fat32 (at 44,100Hz at 16bit stereo), if you use that format on your hard drive. So, let's say you've recorded your stereo file, 2 cassettes long which is about 3 hours, (probably 2:56 or so), select it all, then paste it into your mono file. First, the left channel, then the right channel. When you reverse the right channel, after you've done that, your 11 hour file will look like this; again after you've sampled down to 22,050Hz in mono, side 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 3, 4, (from least to most time, left to right. I label each region paying very close attention to the narrator so the numbers coincide, but I don't keep him saying side 2, side 3, etc. and also I don't keep, this book is up to 4 sides per cassette, or so many pages on so many sides, in digital format, (again just my opinion, it is not needed, and, to skip such and such in this book, fast forward until a beep is heard, stop at that point to hear x x x, or the beginning of the book. The markers, though you
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hi Nolan, when using the noise reduction plug in you are supposed to record some of the material with know speech (the tape hiss) so the program will know what you want to filter out. I find it works well. I don't know how to minimize the cross talk. Maybe someone can tell us. Regards, Judy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nolan Crabb Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 7:18 PM To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Nolan, I have had good results in removing crosstalk by using the Noise Gate function in the SF8 menu. That's Noise Gate rather than Noise Reduction. You need to tinker with the decibel setting - somewhere between -30 and -35 worked best for me without cutting off the speech at the end of phrases, and you still get crosstalk sometimes during the speech, but it made a big difference in the final product. I endorse Curtis's suggestion (posted later) of using a commercial stereo cassette deck, and resampling and reversing tracks to get the final result. It's a little more technically intensive, but the results are worth it. I would love to know Curtis's secret for removing as much hiss as he does with Noise Reduction. I could never achieve those results, which I am sure is more a comment on the operator than on the product. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
I personally feel Noise Gate is evil and should be banned from polite society, but that's just me. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Graham Stoodley wrote: Nolan, I have had good results in removing crosstalk by using the Noise Gate function in the SF8 menu. That's Noise Gate rather than Noise Reduction. You need to tinker with the decibel setting - somewhere between -30 and -35 worked best for me without cutting off the speech at the end of phrases, and you still get crosstalk sometimes during the speech, but it made a big difference in the final product. I endorse Curtis's suggestion (posted later) of using a commercial stereo cassette deck, and resampling and reversing tracks to get the final result. It's a little more technically intensive, but the results are worth it. I would love to know Curtis's secret for removing as much hiss as he does with Noise Reduction. I could never achieve those results, which I am sure is more a comment on the operator than on the product. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
get a reply from anyone, it's kind of a significant thing, especially when I stop and recognize how busy I get and how easy it is to just say poor slob; hope someone somewhere can figure that out for him, and hit the delete key. So when I say thanks for writing back, I truly am grateful. Where do I even go to activate the plug-in? I assume I have to select some tape hiss; that's easy enough to do. And do you do that before or after you resample? Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:18 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Sorry, but the HANDI-CASSETTE has a lot of cross talk by default, and nothing in sound forge can correct this. A better way is to use a regular stereo cassette dec and record tracks 1 and 4, then turn the cassette over and then record sides 2 and 3. This will make a file about an hour and a half long, (probably closer to about 84 or 85 minutes give or take). In SF you can press tab and get to either the left or right side, and you wish to reverse the right channel as you know. If you have the SF noise reduction plut-in, it is superlative at getting rid of the hiss. The commercial cassette stereo recorder has a much better cross talk capability, even a non expensive one. Somehow, the HANDI-CASSETTE, in stereo, is pretty lousy in this regard. If you use the sound forge noise reduction plut-in, use a facility in it which lets you sample the hiss in such a way that it is beyond the beginning of the tape and just before the narrator begins, and save the setting. You can tweak the settings to get that hiss up to 99 db below what it is, and if you do it right, the hiss will be virtually gone leaving the recording even better than the original, I know, I've done it several hundred times. Good luck! Curtis Delzer At 05:18 PM 1/3/2006, you wrote: Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com At 02:26 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote: Nolan, I have had good results in removing crosstalk by using the Noise Gate function in the SF8 menu. That's Noise Gate rather than Noise Reduction. You need to tinker with the decibel setting - somewhere between -30 and -35 worked best for me without cutting off the speech at the end of phrases, and you still get crosstalk sometimes during the speech, but it made a big difference in the final product. I endorse Curtis's suggestion (posted later) of using a commercial stereo cassette deck, and resampling and reversing tracks to get the final result. It's a little more technically intensive, but the results are worth it. I would love to know Curtis's secret for removing as much hiss as he does with Noise Reduction. I could never achieve those results, which I am sure is more a comment on the operator than on the product. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Now I'm beginning to wonder whether I even have the plug-in at all. I assumed it actually came with version 8. That's probably not accurate. I have something called audio restoration, but I suspect that isn't the same thing. Sorry to ask such incredibly elementary questions. Is it really called noise reduction plug-in? If so, I didn't get it, and now wish to goodness I had. What is the purpose of the audio restoration setting? I assume it is designed to take the static out of LP's and such? Nolan ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
On the idea of noise reduction, how can I decode stereo in files, if recorded from a shoutcast stream that sounds like the pilot tone is in stereo but the music is panned hard right? That tone almost gives me a headache so doing what an FM radio would have done probably would make it sound close to on-air or at least listenable. The pilot isn't quite stereo, but it sounds like it moves around. It probably would be easy enough to take the right channel and copy it on the left so I can have it through both speakers, but the low pass isn't something I can find in goldwave how to specify. I guess I'd gradually reduce it until the tone is almost gone and preset that as decode fm shoutcast. - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Thank you for such kind words, and I will do what I can to reveal what I do to get rid of noise in sound forge. Here is a message I sent to Nolan about it, but I'll amplify. Well, this is off list, so no prob, and as far as replying, hey, what are we here fore, to help one another? Damn right! So, I enjoy it since I've done many hundred books and know how valuable it is when you hear something which, going in sounded like that unmentionable schtuff you mentioned, but coming out sounds fantastic! I, presume, you do have the sound forge noise reduction plug in, so if you do, then you're going to find that it will do a magnificent job, especially if you can get it to sample the sound in such a way that it automatically picks the hiss, and/or the noise it is suppose to hear, and not what you don't want it to reduce like the voice. Since you've recorded in SF before and know how to reverse, what I do is make a region for each side of each cassette, and then have sf write those regions to specific *.wav files, and then use something else to make the mp3s at 32K or 32K with vbr so the sound is as good as it should be. I record at 44,100Hz and then change the sample rate to 22,050, (NOT RESAMPLE) just change the sample rate so the pitch halves, to resample would not change the pitch but you'd loose quality, and then apply noise reduction since the noise you wish for the NR to hear would be at the correct pitch as well. I hope some of this rambling helps. You can change the amount of noise reduction in the nr reduction plug-in, rather than use the preset of 0.250 seconds (a quarter second) (for fast computers) and then, since it's mode 1, you can then change the amount of supression in db. The sample noise checkbox should be checked, and when you first have it sample a noise, it auto unchecks itself since the nr plug-in has found the sample and made it's configuration and to that noise it's sampled, it's set. Change the db slider to, let's say, minus 40 DB and while listening to the preview you'll be amazed how wonderfully it will work. Then, save the setting, but make sure, before you save that setting, that the sample checkbox is then, checked, since if you use that setting in the future for another minus 40 db sample, you wish it to sample at least a quarter second of noise automatically, and by default. Many guys forget that checkbox and figure that since the slider is set for minus 40 db, it will get rid of the noise, forgetting that it needs to sample first some noise before it can apply it's magic to what you wish it to hear, not a voice or music. Plan to use a selected part of the noise when you make the nr plug-in hear noise, (the beginning of each side of a book is plenty of room for it) and you'll be really pleased, I guarantee. That dec, will make a huge difference though the handi-cassette is good one track at a time, even has better or less cross talk one track at a time, but is tedious that way. Recording off that dec in your garage (when you set it up) the right channel is tracks 4 and 3 sides 1 and 2 of the tape, and you know that if you first record 1 cassette, that if you press tab it will put the left channel by itself into a way which you can work with separately. Press tab until you hear only the right channel, then reverse it all at once. Then you should down sample, normalize, noise reduce, make regions for sides (which for best results should be noise reduced separately) and then have sf make your *.wav files. Getting to those sliders for minus db can be problematic, though, fortunately I have jfw 5.0 and it's native sound forge configuration files, so the sliders can be found. You must play around a good bit in the plug-in configuration, trying up and down arrow to find out which field(s) get changed, but when you do and learn which does change that slider from about minus 12.5 db which is a default setting when using the preset for fast computers with 250 millisecond capture, you
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Hi Bruce. Okay, why is that? - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions I personally feel Noise Gate is evil and should be banned from polite society, but that's just me. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, Graham Stoodley wrote: Nolan, I have had good results in removing crosstalk by using the Noise Gate function in the SF8 menu. That's Noise Gate rather than Noise Reduction. You need to tinker with the decibel setting - somewhere between -30 and -35 worked best for me without cutting off the speech at the end of phrases, and you still get crosstalk sometimes during the speech, but it made a big difference in the final product. I endorse Curtis's suggestion (posted later) of using a commercial stereo cassette deck, and resampling and reversing tracks to get the final result. It's a little more technically intensive, but the results are worth it. I would love to know Curtis's secret for removing as much hiss as he does with Noise Reduction. I could never achieve those results, which I am sure is more a comment on the operator than on the product. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC audio discussion list. ' Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Noise Reduction Questions
Sorry, but the HANDI-CASSETTE has a lot of cross talk by default, and nothing in sound forge can correct this. A better way is to use a regular stereo cassette dec and record tracks 1 and 4, then turn the cassette over and then record sides 2 and 3. This will make a file about an hour and a half long, (probably closer to about 84 or 85 minutes give or take). In SF you can press tab and get to either the left or right side, and you wish to reverse the right channel as you know. If you have the SF noise reduction plut-in, it is superlative at getting rid of the hiss. The commercial cassette stereo recorder has a much better cross talk capability, even a non expensive one. Somehow, the HANDI-CASSETTE, in stereo, is pretty lousy in this regard. If you use the sound forge noise reduction plut-in, use a facility in it which lets you sample the hiss in such a way that it is beyond the beginning of the tape and just before the narrator begins, and save the setting. You can tweak the settings to get that hiss up to 99 db below what it is, and if you do it right, the hiss will be virtually gone leaving the recording even better than the original, I know, I've done it several hundred times. Good luck! Curtis Delzer At 05:18 PM 1/3/2006, you wrote: Greetings, all, and thanks in advance for reading this. I'm using Sound Forge 8 to digitize NLS four-track books for use in my Book Port. So here's the question: I'd love to reduce some of the tape hiss I get and to reduce some of the crosstalk that comes about when I record in stereo. (I record using a handi-cassette as my player, record the tapes at double speed, then reverse tracks 3 and 4. I then resample the recordings so the speed is normal, combine the tracks and save them as single MP3 files that I later suck into the Book Port. How do I institute the plug-in that would help reduce at least the hiss if not the crosstalk? Please, no messages about how I need a different player as my source. Trust me, I get that already! Thanks for any help you can give. Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, differences and configuration files?
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sound forge 8, differences and configuration files?
Hello everyone. My wife bought for me the upgrade to Sound Forge 8 for Christmas. For 3 years (approximately) I had been using Sound Forge 5, and now, I have no more configuration files which will work with my version of jfw 5 and sf8. What are the real important differences like, I found that i and o will mark the left and right side of a region like left and right bracket use too, but how do I make the sound continuously loop like I did with using the control-space in sf5? Any and all help will be gratefully appreciated, I.E. does FS plan on supporting SF8 with configuration files for jfw 7? I only have the demo of jfw7, and have window-eyes 5.5, but it's support of sound forge, truthfully, is lacking, even for sf5. What can I do to get the kind of access to SF as I did in SF5 and jfw5? Thanks! Curtis Delzer ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8, differences and configuration files?
Hi Curtis, The q command loops. Scripts are available at a nominal fee from Jim Snowbarger at http://www.snowmanradio.com. - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: sound forge 8, differences and configuration files? Hello everyone. My wife bought for me the upgrade to Sound Forge 8 for Christmas. For 3 years (approximately) I had been using Sound Forge 5, and now, I have no more configuration files which will work with my version of jfw 5 and sf8. What are the real important differences like, I found that i and o will mark the left and right side of a region like left and right bracket use too, but how do I make the sound continuously loop like I did with using the control-space in sf5? Any and all help will be gratefully appreciated, I.E. does FS plan on supporting SF8 with configuration files for jfw 7? I only have the demo of jfw7, and have window-eyes 5.5, but it's support of sound forge, truthfully, is lacking, even for sf5. What can I do to get the kind of access to SF as I did in SF5 and jfw5? Thanks! Curtis Delzer ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com
Re: sound forge 8
Doc! Sound Forge is not a multi-tracking program. Sony's multi-track program is Vegas but most will agree that it's not accessible. Try Adobe Audition or Cakewalk Sonar. Check out Sonar at www.chirpingbat.com/sonar.shtml, They're both in the $300 price range. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00 plus $150.00 factory rebate from Tascam until September 30, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing
Hi, Jim, You suggested I use the arrow keys up and down without the shift to narrow the selections. That works great, as long as Im' not actually selecting anything. It doesn't help with the shift-left arrow or shift-right arrow selections. They're still too big, even with one tap of the right arrow and shift combination, for example. Your solution used to work great in Sound Forge 5, but this one seems to not be affected by that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KB2NKZ Jim Ardin Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:39 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing use the up / down arrow not the Shift up / down arrow to adjust how much to select. if you are in the US or Canada, and if you think you need to talk by phone, I can call you!Or you can call me between 8am and 9pm eastern time. phone: 908 725 5552 I hope that I helped you! *-**--***---*-***---**--* Have A nice day from KB2NKZ, Jim Ardin email= [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing
Nolan! Perhaps you could use up-arrow as much as you need to make the increment small enough and use page-up and page-down to move the cursor. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00 plus $150.00 factory rebate from Tascam until September 30, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing
You suggested using the page up and down keys to move the cursor. Good thought. I'll try that. It just seems so strange compared to sound forge 5. Nolan ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing
I've been using Sound Forge 8 for about two months now, and I'm struggling with an editing issue I hope someone here can help me solve. I can't get it to select very small amounts of data when I do a Shift+Right or Shift+Left arrow. I can get it to move in tiny increments when I just do a left or right arrow to move through the file, but I want to be able to edit out single syllables and other tiny points in an audio file. I've done a series of Shift+Up arrows to decrease the amount of the selection, but nothing I do seems to help. What frustrates me most is that the setting is almost certainly right in front of me, staring at me larger than life, so to speak. But I can't figure it out to save me. I desperately need to do precise edits with this program the way I could with Sound Forge 5. I'm working on another audio Christmas project for my kids this year, and I need to edit the job with real precision. Please, any Sound Forge users out there with any ideas or even speculation, chime in. And if this is such a narrow topic that it doesn't help the majority on the list, please don't hesitate to reply privately. I've spent hours in the preferences menu trying to figure out what would give me the option of very small incremental selections with Shift+Right Arrow and such, and it's not jumping out at me at all. Best Wishes, Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing
Nolan! Don't you want just up-arrow or down-arrow and not with the shift key? Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing
Nolan, out of my limited Sound Forge 8 experience, just up-arrow or down-arrow changes the zoom rate for how much the right or left arrows move the cursor. If you still have trouble, perhaps marking the beginning of the portion to be deleted with the letter I, and the end with the letter O might work for you in making the selection. The I and the O are for marking in and out, and seem to have replaced the left and right brackets that worked in earlier versions of SF. Good luck. - Original Message - From: Nolan Crabb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:12 AM Subject: Sound Forge 8 and Precise Editing I've been using Sound Forge 8 for about two months now, and I'm struggling with an editing issue I hope someone here can help me solve. I can't get it to select very small amounts of data when I do a Shift+Right or Shift+Left arrow. I can get it to move in tiny increments when I just do a left or right arrow to move through the file, but I want to be able to edit out single syllables and other tiny points in an audio file. I've done a series of Shift+Up arrows to decrease the amount of the selection, but nothing I do seems to help. What frustrates me most is that the setting is almost certainly right in front of me, staring at me larger than life, so to speak. But I can't figure it out to save me. I desperately need to do precise edits with this program the way I could with Sound Forge 5. I'm working on another audio Christmas project for my kids this year, and I need to edit the job with real precision. Please, any Sound Forge users out there with any ideas or even speculation, chime in. And if this is such a narrow topic that it doesn't help the majority on the list, please don't hesitate to reply privately. I've spent hours in the preferences menu trying to figure out what would give me the option of very small incremental selections with Shift+Right Arrow and such, and it's not jumping out at me at all. Best Wishes, Nolan Crabb ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
