Re: [PD] Glitches during audio test on Mac OS X (newbie)
On 18/01/2007, at 7.04, Joseph Wilk wrote: When I try to run the audio test or any other audio-based patch, I get terrible glitches. Usually, they are spaced evenly in a 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 rhythm [snip] You could try setting the output sampling rate to 48000 as suggested in this bug report where similar problems are experienced: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? func=detailatid=478070aid=1561839group_id=55736 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Glitches during audio test on Mac OS X (newbie)
hello joseph i am not a mac user myself, but a student mate of mine had a similar problem with any version of pd (we tried about 4 different versions). However, we couldn't find any setting to avoid these glitches (these glitches have been also very regular, like: 'zlic - zlic-zlic', like in your case). even setting the samplerate to 48000Hz didn't help, though that was mentioned in some mails before. also on her computer other applications ran fine, only pd was causing trouble. then we tried to run pd over jack and all troubles are gone. there is even a precompiled osx-binary of jack and an appropriate gui available, which makes the installing very easy: http://www.jackosx.com/ i hope that this will be a help also for you roman On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 06:04 +, Joseph Wilk wrote: Greetings everyone, Thank you for your consideration in my problems getting going with Pd. I am currently running Pd version 0.40-2 for Mac OS X 10.4 (PPC Intel). On this computer, I have Mac OS X 10.4.8 running on a 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4 with 1 GB of RAM. I am using my built-in audio drivers. When I try to run the audio test or any other audio-based patch, I get terrible glitches. Usually, they are spaced evenly in a 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 rhythm (only occasionally breaking that rhythm before settling back). No matter what I set the delay to, I get these glitches in the sound. No other audio program (like Ableton Live) is having any issues with the on-board sound card I am not running any other programs at the time of Pd. I can reproduce this issue faithfully through several releases back, even with special extended compiles. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can continue troubleshooting or correct this problem? Thank you kindly! Best wishes, Joseph Wilk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cyclone] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
hi list cant find the ciclone object: cyclone ... couldn't create on macintel with test7. did it change name? thks On Jan 6, 2007, at 6:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, let's stress test! This is the last test release before release candidates, so report bugs now! * Gem should be installed and working on all platforms * the MSD (Mass-Spring-Damper) externals are included * included Thomas Grill's Mac/Intel fixes for iemlib and cyclone * Universal binaries for flext externals * working 10.3 build http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc -- -- I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Glitches during audio test on Mac OS X (newbie)
I am using PD on OSX, and I use JackOSX for anything that requires reliability. So try that, or try setting the delay in the Audio Settings dialog to a larger number. This increases the latency, and should lessen the chance of dropouts. I think the problem is that PD doesn't use the native OSX Core Audio drivers, but rather a set of Portaudio drivers. I've had less than ideal luck using Portaudio on OSX for anything, so my inclination is to see the problem there. best, d. Roman Haefeli wrote: hello joseph i am not a mac user myself, but a student mate of mine had a similar problem with any version of pd (we tried about 4 different versions). However, we couldn't find any setting to avoid these glitches (these glitches have been also very regular, like: 'zlic - zlic-zlic', like in your case). even setting the samplerate to 48000Hz didn't help, though that was mentioned in some mails before. also on her computer other applications ran fine, only pd was causing trouble. then we tried to run pd over jack and all troubles are gone. there is even a precompiled osx-binary of jack and an appropriate gui available, which makes the installing very easy: http://www.jackosx.com/ i hope that this will be a help also for you roman On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 06:04 +, Joseph Wilk wrote: Greetings everyone, Thank you for your consideration in my problems getting going with Pd. I am currently running Pd version 0.40-2 for Mac OS X 10.4 (PPC Intel). On this computer, I have Mac OS X 10.4.8 running on a 1.67 GHz PowerPC G4 with 1 GB of RAM. I am using my built-in audio drivers. When I try to run the audio test or any other audio-based patch, I get terrible glitches. Usually, they are spaced evenly in a 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 rhythm (only occasionally breaking that rhythm before settling back). No matter what I set the delay to, I get these glitches in the sound. No other audio program (like Ableton Live) is having any issues with the on-board sound card I am not running any other programs at the time of Pd. I can reproduce this issue faithfully through several releases back, even with special extended compiles. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can continue troubleshooting or correct this problem? Thank you kindly! Best wishes, Joseph Wilk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 82: Honor thy error as a hidden intention ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cyclone] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
On 18/01/2007, at 13.37, Miguel Cardoso wrote: cant find the ciclone object: cyclone ... couldn't create on macintel with test7. did it change name? In the fear of missing your point, in which case just ignore this: Cyclone is included, but it is to be understood as a library, ie. a set of objects which in this case all are named something else then cyclone. See the help-patches under cyclone in the reference section of the help browser for a list of those objects. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cyclone] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
thanks Steffen. I thought there was a cyclone object to load max patches. how I do I load a max file into pure data then? i tried renaming it to .pd but it doesn't load... On Jan 18, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Steffen wrote: On 18/01/2007, at 13.37, Miguel Cardoso wrote: cant find the ciclone object: cyclone ... couldn't create on macintel with test7. did it change name? In the fear of missing your point, in which case just ignore this: Cyclone is included, but it is to be understood as a library, ie. a set of objects which in this case all are named something else then cyclone. See the help-patches under cyclone in the reference section of the help browser for a list of those objects. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Glitches during audio test on Mac OS X (newbie)
This did the trick! Thank you all. I wasn't aware of the Sourceforge page for PD. I'll search that in addition to the archives of this list and the info on the puredata.info site from now on. Thanks again, and have a great day! Kind regards, Joseph On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 10:27:49 +0100 Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/01/2007, at 7.04, Joseph Wilk wrote: When I try to run the audio test or any other audio-based patch, I get terrible glitches. Usually, they are spaced evenly in a 1-2-3-4 1-2-3-4 rhythm [snip] You could try setting the output sampling rate to 48000 as suggested in this bug report where similar problems are experienced: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? func=detailatid=478070aid=1561839group_id=55736 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cyclone] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
On 18/01/2007, at 15.03, Miguel Cardoso wrote: I thought there was a cyclone object to load max patches. how I do I load a max file into pure data then? Ok, thats the goal. There is a thread from 29th of auust last year about this. To sum it up: I might be wrong in calling a set of object for a lib, when they (the objects) are build into separate files. I don't know, the terminology is slightly confusing due to inconsistent use. You are right that to load the max file one are to crate an [cyclone] object, click on it, and follow the instructions (or something). But to do that, one need cyclone to be build into one file, cyclone.pd_darwin (in this case), instead of into separate files, as it is currently done with Pd-extended. To quote Hans C. S. from the mentioned thread: Sounds like the single-file-multi-class cyclone.pd_linux should be included in Pd- extended if there really is some specific functionality that is only available in that format. Its just a matter of someone doing the work. Any volunteers? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cyclone] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
On 18/01/2007, at 16.28, Miguel Cardoso wrote: ok! thats the object i cannot create. i thought this was solved on test7, or renamed to something else in this version so for now I can only use the objects in the library. i cannot load max files yet, right? I think so, yes, since i think it highly unlikely that it should have been renamed. Also the Makefile doesn't mention that it is. I could of cause miss something as i'm not an expert. You could (try to) build it your self, but that i surely can't help you with as i just failed trying to do so. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Patchmatrix Execution Order Issues
Luke Iannini writes: Sorry if I'm losing everyone : ), hopefully at least the idea of a Pd-Message-Patchmatrix makes sense to everyone and I'm just losing everyone with my implementation and explanation thereof! I don't yet understand the details of what you propose, but I certainly see the value of your goal; it's something I've dreamed about, too -- dynamic patching. Best of luck to you, and I will follow your progress with interest. Phil Stone UC Davis ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] polypoly's second inlet
Hello listers (and Frank B. in particular),
I've been converting a PD synth I've been using from an [nqpoly] voice
manager to Frank's new [polypoly]. Mostly, it's working well for me,
but one thing about it seems less than optimal, and I wonder if it is
intentional.
The first inlet sends its {note, amp} pairs to one and only one instance
of the polypoly'd abstraction. The second inlet broadcasts its message
to *all* instances (see attached patch for simple illustration).
I can see reasons for wanting it to work that way, so if it was
intentional, so be it. It would work much better for my selfish
purposes -- I like to send a big list of parameters to the voice that's
about to be fired off -- if it only connected to the same instance that
the first inlet connects to.
(As an aside, it occurs to me that [polypoly] would be much more
generalizable if the first inlet could send a list *of any size* to the
poly-allocated abstraction, instead of a hardwired {note, amp} pair.
Then I would be happy to see the second inlet be global, because I
wouldn't need it anymore. I'd just send a big list, including note and
amplitude as well as all my other parameters, to the first inlet. The
drawback is that this would require a custom version of [poly], since
[poly] assumes {note, amp} pairs.)
I get lost in the auto-creates and auto-connects in [polypoly]'s
innards, so I can't figure out how to play with this. I'm awfully
grateful for this powerful object, though. If I can get it working, my
synthesizer patch will work great for process music (which is all nqpoly
can really do), *and* live playing. Thanks, Frank.
Phil Stone
UC Davis
#N canvas 264 37 332 200 10;
#X obj 38 56 pack 60 120;
#X obj 63 5 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1
;
#X obj 63 26 t b b;
#X obj 38 88 polypoly 12 1 polytestvox;
#X obj 123 56 pack 1 2 3 4 5 6 7;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 0 0;
#X connect 2 1 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 3 1;
#N canvas 314 159 340 257 10;
#X obj 59 49 inlet;
#X obj 164 49 inlet;
#X obj 164 89 print 2ndInlet;
#X obj 59 89 print 1stInlet;
#X obj 62 161 outlet~;
#X obj 142 161 outlet~;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
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Re: [PD] polypoly's second inlet
Hallo,
Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote:
I've been converting a PD synth I've been using from an [nqpoly] voice
manager to Frank's new [polypoly]. Mostly, it's working well for me,
but one thing about it seems less than optimal, and I wonder if it is
intentional.
The first inlet sends its {note, amp} pairs to one and only one instance
of the polypoly'd abstraction. The second inlet broadcasts its message
to *all* instances (see attached patch for simple illustration).
I can see reasons for wanting it to work that way, so if it was
intentional, so be it. It would work much better for my selfish
purposes -- I like to send a big list of parameters to the voice that's
about to be fired off -- if it only connected to the same instance that
the first inlet connects to.
You could use a little trick by connecting the second inlet to the
right inlet of a [list] object inside your wrapper to store, but not
activate new settings on a per note level. Then bang the left inlet of
this [list] with the noteon-message coming in to the left inlet of
your wrapper with a [t a b] or something like that.
(As an aside, it occurs to me that [polypoly] would be much more
generalizable if the first inlet could send a list *of any size* to the
poly-allocated abstraction, instead of a hardwired {note, amp} pair.
Actually this is a limitation of [poly], and [polypoly] really was
made to be a handy wrapper around [poly] that mimicks most of its
functionality and can alsmost be used as a drop-in replacement without
having to refer to the help patch again. It may be nice if [poly]
would support note amp foo bar etc. lists.
Maybe you will be happier with using [ngpoly4] directly?
Ciao
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
(let's keep this on the list since it's of interest to others) That's odd, so I guess it is hard to pin down. Do you have an example patch that you used to test it? .hc On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: delread~ and delwrite~work great on my macintel using test7 on macbookpro On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Strange, works for me on Mac OS X 10.4.8/PowerPC/G4. Any other Mac/Intel users? .hc On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:04 PM, dafydd hughes wrote: Hey Hans-Christoph Just installed test 7 on a MacBook Core 2 Are delwrite~/delread~/vd~ broken? I can't get any sound from them... Maybe I'm missing something specific to the new computer. cheers dafydd On 1/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, let's stress test! This is the last test release before release candidates, so report bugs now! * Gem should be installed and working on all platforms * the MSD (Mass-Spring-Damper) externals are included * included Thomas Grill's Mac/Intel fixes for iemlib and cyclone * Universal binaries for flext externals * working 10.3 build http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc --- - I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list - --- Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity.-John Gilmore ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sflist equivalent?
Hello, A friend just asked me if there is an object in Pd that is similar to sflist in Max/MSP. I havent' used this myself, but he says it basically pre-loads wav files in a playlist, so that there is no waiting time between successive samples. If not, it shouldn't be too hard to do in an abstraction, I would guess... But, just wondering if anyone knows of something like this. Thanks, Steve ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [cyclone] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
Yeah, there is. But I think its not built automatically as part of the package. It's just a matter of someone doing the Makefile hackery. Was it in previous packages? .hc On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: thanks Steffen. I thought there was a cyclone object to load max patches. how I do I load a max file into pure data then? i tried renaming it to .pd but it doesn't load... On Jan 18, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Steffen wrote: On 18/01/2007, at 13.37, Miguel Cardoso wrote: cant find the ciclone object: cyclone ... couldn't create on macintel with test7. did it change name? In the fear of missing your point, in which case just ignore this: Cyclone is included, but it is to be understood as a library, ie. a set of objects which in this case all are named something else then cyclone. See the help-patches under cyclone in the reference section of the help browser for a list of those objects. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
