Re: [PD] Gem on win7 64 bit

2012-10-30 Thread João Pais
I have a related (?) problem, I can create the gem window, but nothing  
gets rendered (just a black screen). Servando suggested to update the  
video driver, but I didn't do that yet. maybe that would help?

I submitted a gem bug, but I think iohannes didn't react to it yet.


Am 29.10.2012 um 16:18 schrieb Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com:


it works here. less stable than on linux but works

i have to check sound inputs (if ps3eye is connected it crashes..
don't know why)

i suggest you go for gem 93.3 .


ok we did that and it's the same problem still.


and right click pd.exe/ properties
execute in compatibility mode for xp sp3 and as administrator.


we did that too and it stil crashes
it is win 7 pro 64 bit and has the newest quicktime installed.
any other suggestion than switching to linux?



some objects remain unstable (text2d an text3d, pix_video)

but it basically works.

on linux i have much better stability.



2012/10/29 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com:

hi list,

i have a workshop and it seems that Pd-extended 0.42.5 urent© crashes  
when the create message is sent to gemwin on computers running windows  
7 64 bit. is there a solution for it?


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Re: [PD] Gem on win7 64 bit

2012-10-30 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

sorry if that sound obvious but it's not clear on your mail :
creating the gem window did not start the rendering, you have to send 1 to 
gemwin in order to have anything else than a black screen...
is that what you did?


cheers
c


Le 30/10/2012 13:02, João Pais a écrit :

I have a related (?) problem, I can create the gem window, but nothing gets 
rendered (just a black screen). Servando suggested to update the video driver, 
but I didn't do that yet. maybe that would help?
I submitted a gem bug, but I think iohannes didn't react to it yet.


Am 29.10.2012 um 16:18 schrieb Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com:


it works here. less stable than on linux but works

i have to check sound inputs (if ps3eye is connected it crashes..
don't know why)

i suggest you go for gem 93.3 .


ok we did that and it's the same problem still.


and right click pd.exe/ properties
execute in compatibility mode for xp sp3 and as administrator.


we did that too and it stil crashes
it is win 7 pro 64 bit and has the newest quicktime installed.
any other suggestion than switching to linux?



some objects remain unstable (text2d an text3d, pix_video)

but it basically works.

on linux i have much better stability.



2012/10/29 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com:

hi list,

i have a workshop and it seems that Pd-extended 0.42.5 urent© crashes when the 
create message is sent to gemwin on computers running windows 7 64 bit. is 
there a solution for it?

thx.
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[PD] live patching with new instances of abstractions

2012-10-30 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Hi all,
I've been trying to make a patch where I can create connections of
subpatches on the fly. These subpatches contain abstractions (for now the
same abstracion everywhere, whcih is [inlet~]  , only to check if what I
wanna do is possible).

  [outlet~]

I've made it in such a way that when I do feedback with the connections
(e.x. 1st subpatch to 2nd to 1st), a new instance of the abstraction is
being created. But when I turn the dsp on, a get the error: DSP loop
detected (some tilde objects not scheduled) message. Even putting a [f $0]
inside the abstraction won't solve this. I know I can skip this with [s~]
and [r~], but it seems strange to me that this happens. Any ideas?

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Re: [PD] live patching with new instances of abstractions

2012-10-30 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
Hm, didn't think that the text line length would change. The objects in the
parentheses are meant to be like this:
[inlet~]

[outlet~]

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis adr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,
 I've been trying to make a patch where I can create connections of
 subpatches on the fly. These subpatches contain abstractions (for now the
 same abstracion everywhere, whcih is [inlet~]  , only to check if what I
 wanna do is possible).

   [outlet~]

 I've made it in such a way that when I do feedback with the connections
 (e.x. 1st subpatch to 2nd to 1st), a new instance of the abstraction is
 being created. But when I turn the dsp on, a get the error: DSP loop
 detected (some tilde objects not scheduled) message. Even putting a [f $0]
 inside the abstraction won't solve this. I know I can skip this with [s~]
 and [r~], but it seems strange to me that this happens. Any ideas?

 Thanks

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Re: [PD] PKGBUILD of pd-extended 0.43-4 for Archers

2012-10-30 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi,

nice job, thank you.

Fero Kiraly wrote:
 Dear friends,
 
 I try to manage PKGBUILD of latest Pd-extended (svn  git) + latest
 Gem (git) for arch.
 For me it's running, what makes me happy because I am one of the new Archers.

What you can do is let the compiler optimize a bit for i686, since Arch
does not run on i386 anyway :

--- pd-extended/packages/linux_make/Makefile.DIST 2012-03-12 06:50:51.0 
+0100
+++ pd-extended/packages/linux_make/Makefile2012-04-20 14:19:55.533178855 
+0200
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@
 TARGET_PLATFORM := $(shell uname -m)
 ifeq ($(TARGET_PLATFORM),i686)
 # Generic x86 (tune for Pentium III, since that's more common these
 # days)
-  OPT_CFLAGS += -mtune=i686 -march=i386
+#  OPT_CFLAGS += -mtune=i686 -march=i386
 endif
 ifeq ($(TARGET_PLATFORM),amd64)
 OPT_CFLAGS += -march=k8 -msse -msse2 -mfpmath=sse


But I really like the comment about Pentium III beeing common :).

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Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?

2012-10-30 Thread Dan Wilcox
As this is probably a question that will keep coming up, I decided to wrap up 
some of the answers in one of the puredata.info FAQ pages: 
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/midiinput Please double check this and make any 
changes you see fit.

I know I've said this before, but we should always strive to get some of the 
great info here off list and onto the FAQ / PD website. 

On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:05 AM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:

 From: Björn Eriksson miu...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
 Date: October 29, 2012 2:04:43 AM EDT
 To: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu, Pd - list pd-list@iem.at
 
 
 Thanks, looks promising. I will test them both!
 
 http://www.maplemidi.com/Maple_driver.html
 http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html
 
 I used MIDI yoke long time ago but it seems that it is not updated any
 more for newer windows os.
 
 
 The MIDI router question is for recommendations for students of mine.
 I run also Ubuntu sometimes but never or very seldom OSX. Maybe it
 could be something to have on Pd web site with some recommendations
 about this as I guess it is something that many new users wants to
 start exploring - to use Pd as a MIDI engine for other softwares!?
 
 So to extend a little what is the best MIDI routers (in general) for
 
 -Linux
 
 -OS X
 
 ?
 
 
 All the best,
 Björn


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[PD] firm delay scheduling

2012-10-30 Thread Jean-Marie Adrien
Hello
I'm trying to launch security procedures in case of trouble, that will respond 
in less than 250 msec.
The fundamental question is :

Is there an object to schedule an event in the future with firm absolute delay 
? 

{realtime} measures time AFTER the problem (no scheduling)
{del} schedules things but the delay is kind of elastic, depending on the CPU 
load.

thanks
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Re: [PD] firm delay scheduling

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

[delay] is as firm as your going to get, from what I've seen.  [delay] should 
be at least as accurate to about one audio block, so like 1.5ms, so if you only 
need 250ms accuracy, you have plenty of room.

.hc

On Oct 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Jean-Marie Adrien wrote:

 Hello
 I'm trying to launch security procedures in case of trouble, that will 
 respond in less than 250 msec.
 The fundamental question is :
 
 Is there an object to schedule an event in the future with firm absolute 
 delay ? 
 
 {realtime} measures time AFTER the problem (no scheduling)
 {del} schedules things but the delay is kind of elastic, depending on the CPU 
 load.
 
 thanks
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Re: [PD] 24bit file bug

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Its probably a good idea to file a bug report and include your patch, and a 
link to the previous conversation on the list:

http://bugs.puredata.info

Or in the Help menu, report bug

.hc

On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:38 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I reported this a few months ago and it was acknowledged as a bug. The latest 
 version of pd is still unable to read 24bit files to table. Unless I'm doing 
 something wrong? (See attached file but please be careful with the volume as 
 it is deafening). Please try this with a 24bit aif file.
 
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Re: [PD] 24bit file bug

2012-10-30 Thread peiman khosravi
Great, will do.

Thanks,

P

On 30 October 2012 17:44, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:


 Its probably a good idea to file a bug report and include your patch, and
 a link to the previous conversation on the list:

 http://bugs.puredata.info

 Or in the Help menu, report bug

 .hc

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  Dear all,
 
  I reported this a few months ago and it was acknowledged as a bug. The
 latest version of pd is still unable to read 24bit files to table. Unless
 I'm doing something wrong? (See attached file but please be careful with
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Re: [PD] firm delay scheduling

2012-10-30 Thread Cyrille Henry

hello,

if your problem is detecting when cpu is over 100% so that delay is not 
acurate, then the best solution is some kind of external watchdog.

just send a message every 10 ms to an other software, if this external software 
did not receive anything during the last 20ms, then there is a cpu problem on 
the pd side...


the external software can be an other pd, a shell script (using pdreceive, or 
anything else.

cheers
c

Le 30/10/2012 18:13, Jean-Marie Adrien a écrit :

Hello
I'm trying to launch security procedures in case of trouble, that will respond 
in less than 250 msec.
The fundamental question is :

Is there an object to schedule an event in the future with firm absolute delay ?

{realtime} measures time AFTER the problem (no scheduling)
{del} schedules things but the delay is kind of elastic, depending on the CPU 
load.

thanks
JM


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Re: [PD] 24bit file bug

2012-10-30 Thread peiman khosravi
OK, done:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3581960group_id=55736atid=478070


For the record here's the other thread:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general/78636

Best,
Peiman

On 30 October 2012 17:48, peiman khosravi peimankhosr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great, will do.

 Thanks,

 P

 On 30 October 2012 17:44, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:


 Its probably a good idea to file a bug report and include your patch, and
 a link to the previous conversation on the list:

 http://bugs.puredata.info

 Or in the Help menu, report bug

 .hc

 On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:38 PM, peiman khosravi wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  I reported this a few months ago and it was acknowledged as a bug. The
 latest version of pd is still unable to read 24bit files to table. Unless
 I'm doing something wrong? (See attached file but please be careful with
 the volume as it is deafening). Please try this with a 24bit aif file.
 
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Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...

2012-10-30 Thread Miller Puckette
Quick question... is this autoconnect problem only relevant to midi
or does it also affect jack audio connections?  I'd like to try to fix
this but never use jack so am not sure where to start.

thanks
Miller

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 07:44:59PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
 johanna, simon,
 
 On 10/30/2012 01:04 AM, Simon Wise wrote:
 On 30/10/12 06:12, Johanna Nowak wrote:
 Jörn,
 
 this is a quick shoot from the hips, perhaps it can help:
 
 * Jörn Nettingsmeiernetti...@stackingdwarves.net  [2012-10-29 20:38]:
 
 is there a way to prevent pd from doing this? particularly in the
 alsa midi case, it's a really blatant misfeature, because in the
 presence of a software midi thru port, it will immediately create a
 parameter loop which will make any connected midi controller go wild
 and burn its motors.
 If this is the case for the BCF2000 try using its U-3 or S-3 mode,
 where it will not echo the received midi data to its outputs.
 
 The BCF2000 and the Pd sliders work very well together with feedback -
 not sure exactly which side does the work to allow the loopback to work
 well, but it does, it is possible to use those loops to give manual
 control from the BCF2000 at the same time as Pd sliders and calculated
 values are being used.
 
 i think you misread my post - the feedback is caused by pd
 autoconnecting to a software midi thru port, not by the BCF.
 
 meanwhile, i'm following michael's advice, which solves the problem
 at least for midi. jack autoconnection is still darn irritating,
 though...
 
 
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Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...

2012-10-30 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier

Hi Miller,

On 10/30/2012 08:05 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:

Quick question... is this autoconnect problem only relevant to midi
or does it also affect jack audio connections?  I'd like to try to fix
this but never use jack so am not sure where to start.


well, for MIDI I can live with the workaround suggested by Michael and 
elsewhere by IOhannes, but there is no such workaround to prevent JACK 
autoconnection afaik.


Pd should just not attempt autoconnection when using JACK, unless the 
ports to connect to have been explicitly configured by the user. JACK 
setups tend to be more complex than the usual 
first-2-channels-to-speakers assumption, so Pd _will_ guess wrong most 
of the time, sometimes with painfully loud and embarrassing results.
No user-friendly JACK client should ever autoconnect without being asked 
to, because this effectively prevents JACK session managers from doing 
their job.



Something like this, maybe?:

pd -jack   -- no connection
pd -jack -jackin system:capture_25 system:capture_26 \
-jackout system:playback_17 system:playback_18 \
system:playback_19 system:playback_20
   -- connect to specified ports

having the same options in ~/.pdsettings would be great.



Best,


Jörn



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Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...

2012-10-30 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig

On 10/30/2012 08:05 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:

Quick question... is this autoconnect problem only relevant to midi
or does it also affect jack audio connections?  I'd like to try to fix
this but never use jack so am not sure where to start.


my original implementation for alsa-MIDI (which is still used) 
autoconnects if only one midi-port is opened it will autoconnect to all 
available midi-ports.
this is meant for easy setup (after talking to nando at some lac a while 
ago), but due to midi-thru is making more troubles than it solves.
for me it is fine to remove the autoconnect altogether (and if needed i 
can provide a patch to fix this)


fgmads
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] mysterious segfault while receiving midi commands...

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

That's a tough one to track down.  One thing I'd recommend is to reduce the
complexity.  Specifically, [readanysf~] is a wonderful object, but relies on
many many libraries and has many layers in it.  This bug could have come from
any one of those libraries in addition to Pd, readanysf, etc.

For the media that you're using, I recommend converting them with 32-bit float
WAVs, the internal format used in Pd.  Then you can use [readsf~] or even
better, load them into tables and play them with [tabplay~].

.hc

On 10/29/2012 03:35 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
 hi *!
 
 
 two days ago, my pd-based cue player (btw, new release at
 http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/software/CueFrog/) chashed and burned
 during a live show. not good.
 
 pd segfaulted while i had one six-channel instance of readanysf running and
 five more two-channel instances stopped, at the precise moment when i was
 sending a midi cc to stop the running player and another to start a new one,
 while i was at the same time moving a midi fader for volume control.
 
 unfortunately, i had core dumps disabled, and as luck would have it, the crash
 seems impossible to reproduce without an audience of 200 and a director to go
 ballistic. so unless someone has an audience simulator test scaffold: what
 are, in your experience, the most likely causes of such sudden segfaults, and
 are there workarounds or defensive practices which i could implement?
 
 i'm using the current releases of pd-vanilla, vbap and readanysf~.
 
 in case someone feels inclined to look at my programming style and lead me
 back to the path of righteousness, the actual show patch i was using on top of
 CueFrog is at http://stackingdwarves.net/download/pd-crash.pd
 
 
 looking forward to your ideas!
 
 
 best
 
 
 jörn
 
 
 

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Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...

2012-10-30 Thread Miller Puckette
OK.. I think I can figure out how to take autoconnect out - just committed
and git pushed for your inspection :)

M

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:40:02PM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
 On 10/30/2012 08:05 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
 Quick question... is this autoconnect problem only relevant to midi
 or does it also affect jack audio connections?  I'd like to try to fix
 this but never use jack so am not sure where to start.
 
 my original implementation for alsa-MIDI (which is still used)
 autoconnects if only one midi-port is opened it will autoconnect to
 all available midi-ports.
 this is meant for easy setup (after talking to nando at some lac a
 while ago), but due to midi-thru is making more troubles than it
 solves.
 for me it is fine to remove the autoconnect altogether (and if
 needed i can provide a patch to fix this)
 
 fgmads
 IOhannes
 
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Re: [PD] MIDI and JACK autoconnection is a PITA...

2012-10-30 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig

On 10/30/2012 10:45 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:

OK.. I think I can figure out how to take autoconnect out - just committed
and git pushed for your inspection :)


just noticed how well encapsulated the autoconnect feature has been 
implemented. made it easy to disable :-)


fgmadsr
IOhannes

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[PD] Browse/Search plugin update

2012-10-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I updated my search plugin by adding a progressbar:

http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view

It also prints out the number of files it searched.  There were some
reports of a search taking over a minute, but with GNU/Linux and
winxp I'm getting about 3 seconds for a little over 9,000 docs (I
think I'm searching two different copies of pd-extended libs so
that should be well over what you'd typically be searching).  If
people are getting long searches please start by telling me how
many files you're searching.  Also, the progressbar updates don't
start until it's built a list of files and sorted it, so if it's taking a long
time when you search before the progressbar appears then that
may be the culprit.

Now that the interface updates live I don't really think there's much
need to build an index.  You can start reading the first results
immediately and even scroll the list as it finishes printing the results.
(I guess I can also add a Cancel button, too.)

Let me know if there are any bugs.

-Jonathan

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Re: [PD] firm delay scheduling

2012-10-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message -

 From: Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] firm delay scheduling
 
 hello,
 
 if your problem is detecting when cpu is over 100% so that delay is not 
 acurate, 
 then the best solution is some kind of external watchdog.
 
 just send a message every 10 ms to an other software, if this external 
 software 
 did not receive anything during the last 20ms, then there is a cpu problem on 
 the pd side...
 
 
 the external software can be an other pd, a shell script (using pdreceive, or 
 anything else.

How is the second pd going to complete its computations on time when the CPU
is over 100%?

 
 cheers
 c
 
 Le 30/10/2012 18:13, Jean-Marie Adrien a écrit :
  Hello
  I'm trying to launch security procedures in case of trouble, that will 
 respond in less than 250 msec.
  The fundamental question is :
 
  Is there an object to schedule an event in the future with firm absolute 
 delay ?
 
  {realtime} measures time AFTER the problem (no scheduling)
  {del} schedules things but the delay is kind of elastic, depending on the 
 CPU load.
 
  thanks
  JM
 
 
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Re: [PD] firm delay scheduling

2012-10-30 Thread Simon Iten
If you have a multicore  machine you should be fine...
On Oct 31, 2012 12:31 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

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  Cc:
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [PD] firm delay scheduling
 
  hello,
 
  if your problem is detecting when cpu is over 100% so that delay is not
 acurate,
  then the best solution is some kind of external watchdog.
 
  just send a message every 10 ms to an other software, if this external
 software
  did not receive anything during the last 20ms, then there is a cpu
 problem on
  the pd side...
 
 
  the external software can be an other pd, a shell script (using
 pdreceive, or
  anything else.

 How is the second pd going to complete its computations on time when the
 CPU
 is over 100%?

 
  cheers
  c
 
  Le 30/10/2012 18:13, Jean-Marie Adrien a écrit :
   Hello
   I'm trying to launch security procedures in case of trouble, that will
  respond in less than 250 msec.
   The fundamental question is :
 
   Is there an object to schedule an event in the future with firm
 absolute
  delay ?
 
   {realtime} measures time AFTER the problem (no scheduling)
   {del} schedules things but the delay is kind of elastic, depending on
 the
  CPU load.
 
   thanks
   JM
 
 
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[PD] Pd on Lion - Chinese

2012-10-30 Thread Ed Kelly
Hi,

I have a student from China, and every version of Pd I've tried on her machine 
either crashes or (with Pd-extended 0.42-5) hangs on load.
locahost is there as far as I can tell from ifconfig
The Activity Monitor application shows a red Pd-extended process, but since her 
computer was entirely in Chinese and I didn't have much time to resolve it, I 
don't know what it meant!
Pd 0.43 amd Pd-extended 0.43 both started and quit.
Any ideas? Has anyone experienced this and solved it?
It's OS X, 10.7 Lion
x
Ed
 
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Re: [PD] PKGBUILD of pd-extended 0.43-4 for Archers

2012-10-30 Thread Fero Kiraly
Because of Hans (thanks Hans) suggestion I did a NO SVN pkgbild.
It should be the REAL latest version of pd-extended 0.43-x
here:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44798

it was born from:
https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
--- the latest pd-extended 0.43.x
git://pd-gem.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pd-gem/Gem
   --- the latest GEM
git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
 --- the latest pd-extended core
+ mime types (it depends now on hicolor-icon-theme)

or am I wrong about the latest sources ??

I have a question again.  On aur.archlinux.org it is shown as Pure Data
Extended 0.43-1 version, BUT IT IS 0.43-4 NOW. Where I did mistake in
PKGBUILD ?
cheers

paum
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Re: [PD] Pd on Lion - Chinese

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

I haven't seen this before, I think I had someone from Taiwan in my class last
time.  One useful thing in debugging would be to do this:

/Applications/Pd-0.43-extended-20121010.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr 
-d 3

That will at least tell you how far into the startup procedure its getting.
ANother thing to try would be to run it in English:

export LANG=en
/Applications/Pd-0.43-extended-20121010.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr 
-d 3

.hc

On 10/30/2012 07:53 PM, Ed Kelly wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a student from China, and every version of Pd I've tried on her 
 machine either crashes or (with Pd-extended 0.42-5) hangs on load.
 locahost is there as far as I can tell from ifconfig
 The Activity Monitor application shows a red Pd-extended process, but since 
 her computer was entirely in Chinese and I didn't have much time to resolve 
 it, I don't know what it meant!
 Pd 0.43 amd Pd-extended 0.43 both started and quit.
 Any ideas? Has anyone experienced this and solved it?
 It's OS X, 10.7 Lion
 x
 Ed
  
 Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!
 http://sharktracks.co.uk/
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] PKGBUILD of pd-extended 0.43-4 for Archers

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Since you are not following the Pd-extended packaging (i.e. Gem from git
rather than the pd-extended/0.43 branch), I think it makes more sense if you
package each library individually. That is made much easier by the Library
Template:

https://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate/

It seems there is already an ArchTemplate there.  In Debian, that's how we are
packaging things, you can see all the packages listed here, they all start
with pd-*

http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-multimedia-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org

.hc


On 10/30/2012 08:26 PM, Fero Kiraly wrote:
 Because of Hans (thanks Hans) suggestion I did a NO SVN pkgbild.
 It should be the REAL latest version of pd-extended 0.43-x
 here:
 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44798
 
 it was born from:
 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended/0.43
 --- the latest pd-extended 0.43.x
 git://pd-gem.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pd-gem/Gem
--- the latest GEM
 git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pd-extended.git
  --- the latest pd-extended core
 + mime types (it depends now on hicolor-icon-theme)
 
 or am I wrong about the latest sources ??
 
 I have a question again.  On aur.archlinux.org it is shown as Pure Data
 Extended 0.43-1 version, BUT IT IS 0.43-4 NOW. Where I did mistake in
 PKGBUILD ?
 cheers
 
 paum
 
 
 
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Re: [PD] Browse/Search plugin update

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

On 10/30/2012 07:20 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 I updated my search plugin by adding a progressbar:
 
 http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view
 
 It also prints out the number of files it searched.  There were some
 reports of a search taking over a minute, but with GNU/Linux and
 winxp I'm getting about 3 seconds for a little over 9,000 docs (I
 think I'm searching two different copies of pd-extended libs so
 that should be well over what you'd typically be searching).  If
 people are getting long searches please start by telling me how
 many files you're searching.  Also, the progressbar updates don't
 start until it's built a list of files and sorted it, so if it's taking a long
 time when you search before the progressbar appears then that
 may be the culprit.
 
 Now that the interface updates live I don't really think there's much
 need to build an index.  You can start reading the first results
 immediately and even scroll the list as it finishes printing the results.
 (I guess I can also add a Cancel button, too.)
 
 Let me know if there are any bugs.
 
 -Jonathan

Looking very good!  I consider this something everyone should install now.  The 
progress bar is a good enhancement.  I wonder if it could somehow fit in to the 
GUI elements better somehow.  Its fine how it is, but it seems a little out of 
place.

Looks like there are some debug messages still in it, I get these when hovering:

filename is 5.reference/all_about_arrays.pd
basedir is /Applications/Pd-0.43.3-extended-20121008.app/Contents/Resources/doc
filename is 5.reference/loop~-help.pd
basedir is /Applications/Pd-0.43.3-extended-20121008.app/Contents/Resources/doc
filename is 5.reference/all_about_arrays.pd
filelist is 7751
filelist is 7751

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-3 released

2012-10-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Its included now but in 0.44:
http://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=pure-data/pure-data;a=commit;h=153c8c9a18acb4b89bd9242f5c5dc9d03eece4e8

I included it in Pd-extended 0.43.4 also.

.hc

On Jul 4, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:

 I posted a patch for this a while ago but I don't think it got
 incorporated upstream:
 
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2012-04/018365.html
 
 Chrissie
 
 
 On 04/07/2012 12:56, James Dunn wrote:
 This may be related:
 
 I just installed pd-extended 0.43.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I can't get
 audio to work in -nogui mode. The usual trick of delaying a loadbang
 by 1000ms or more results in a high tone, and there is no adc input,
 so I'm running it in gui mode which works.
 
 James
 
 Quoth Roman Haefeli, on 04/07/2012 12:14:
 I'm also interested to hear if others experience similar issues or if it
 is only me having trouble with 0.43's design. Up to 0.42 everything was
 fine for me regarding audio.

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Re: [PD] Browse/Search plugin update

2012-10-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message -

 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Browse/Search plugin update
 
 
 On 10/30/2012 07:20 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
  I updated my search plugin by adding a progressbar:
 
  http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view
 
  It also prints out the number of files it searched.  There were some
  reports of a search taking over a minute, but with GNU/Linux and
  winxp I'm getting about 3 seconds for a little over 9,000 docs (I
  think I'm searching two different copies of pd-extended libs so
  that should be well over what you'd typically be searching).  If
  people are getting long searches please start by telling me how
  many files you're searching.  Also, the progressbar updates don't
  start until it's built a list of files and sorted it, so if it's 
 taking a long
  time when you search before the progressbar appears then that
  may be the culprit.
 
  Now that the interface updates live I don't really think there's 
 much
  need to build an index.  You can start reading the first results
  immediately and even scroll the list as it finishes printing the results.
  (I guess I can also add a Cancel button, too.)
 
  Let me know if there are any bugs.
 
  -Jonathan
 
 Looking very good!  I consider this something everyone should install now.  
 The 
 progress bar is a good enhancement.  I wonder if it could somehow fit in to 
 the 
 GUI elements better somehow.  Its fine how it is, but it seems a little out 
 of 
 place.

After trying it out on winxp it seemed obvious that progress bars like that are
generally transient.  Now it fills up, disappears and gets replaced by the text
telling the number of results.

I also found out that the lsort -command flag is causing the delay before the
progress bar starts.  There's a workaround on the tcl wiki.  I'll post the 
update
once I get it working.

 
 Looks like there are some debug messages still in it, I get these when 
 hovering:
 
 filename is 5.reference/all_about_arrays.pd
 basedir is 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.3-extended-20121008.app/Contents/Resources/doc
 filename is 5.reference/loop~-help.pd
 basedir is 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.3-extended-20121008.app/Contents/Resources/doc
 filename is 5.reference/all_about_arrays.pd
 filelist is 7751
 filelist is 7751

Ah yes, forgot about those.  Thanks.

-Jonathan

 
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