Re: Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 I'm really hoping Pentax does not pursue a DSLR. Then people will bitch and moan and threaten to switch and leave the list. It should make for some interesting emails. Actually, it would be better if they make one. The subject has already made for some excellent name calling, accusations of juvenile mentality, and outright slander, and it is just vapour ware. The real thing, resplendent in its 1990s era technology, would really get peoples creative writing juices flowing. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Who here would really pay the price for a DSLR
Let me ask a simple question. Who here would pay $3000 to $6000 US for a DSLR that is backward compatible with the Pentax K mount? I know everyone wants one, but who would pay the price right now? Not unless there were no more film for us to buy and use. But then again, I might put my $3000+ for better use. regards, Alan Chan
My apologies
For those not directly involved I thought about what was posted, and decided I should have sent it only to whom I was speaking. So I'm sorry. However, I am not sorry concerning Bruce and Vic. Regards, Brad Dobo ** Brad W. Dobo, HBA (Eds.) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 1658 smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
Yes people have become rather excited about a DSLR and Photokina. Despite the volume I've read every thread, sometimes laughing out loud! It is like I can see all us PDMLers hunched in front of a computer screen, typing madly on the keyboard and shaking their fists at the screen! :) - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 I'm really hoping Pentax does not pursue a DSLR. Then people will bitch and moan and threaten to switch and leave the list. It should make for some interesting emails. Actually, it would be better if they make one. The subject has already made for some excellent name calling, accusations of juvenile mentality, and outright slander, and it is just vapour ware. The real thing, resplendent in its 1990s era technology, would really get peoples creative writing juices flowing. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Is Pentax dying?
Here's some stuff to think about... Pentax survived throughout the 90's largely on the strength of their ps lineup, which was very impressive. Now that more and more people are switching to digital, what will Pentax have to offer in a few years? Let's see... a line of ps cameras that's still impressive, but that's nowhere near as popular as it once was. Most people wanting snapshot cameras will probably pick up a basic digital. I doubt that they'll make much money on their SLR's, since these aren't huge volume items, and I can't see their MedF stuff being able to carry the company. As far as digital goes, Pentax has a nonexistent showing in the SLR market and a pathetic one in the ps market. People are switching to digital and Pentax doesn't have anything nice to show them. They're coasting now on their film ps's, but when the market dries up for those, what do they have left to offer? Not much that's very profitable, as far as I can tell. By the look of it, Pentax shows all the signs of fading away in the next few years. They're all but ignoring digital cameras, which is the most dynamic area of growth right now in camera sales, and this is going to hurt them a lot. When the market for compact ps's shrinks (which it definitely will), Pentax will be deprived of their single greatest source of profit, and I can't see their low-volume items (bino's, 35mm SLR's, MedF, etc.) being able to keep the rest of the company in the black. If you look at digital cameras these days, it seems that everybody has a good foothold. Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta, Sony, even Kodak all offer extensive lines of digital ps's, with at least five or six cameras available at any one time. Pentax has two or three, and they're almost identical apart from resolution and nothing special as far as performance goes. So... where does everyone else see Pentax in a few years? chris
RE: Film not fully fixed- help
Thanks, That is what I did. I had not made up enough fixer (volume)to completely cover the top film. I am so used to doing one film at a time! The film seems ok and it is not an important film anyway. It was just a few areas near the sprockets that had not been in enough solution. Alan -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2002 01:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film not fully fixed- help You are a bit vague about whether you failed to use enough solution to cover the film, or if the solution was not robust enough to do the job. Either way, just refix the film in fresh fixer, and rewash it. You could just refix it in a tray of fixer. William Robb
Re: September PUG Favourite
Well, actually, I ~was~ thinking we could all use a momentary diversion... :-) -frank Mishka wrote: ...or, are you trying to be the single sane person here? that's pretentious! mishka -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: September PUG Favourite
Single sane person? Have you seen my portrait in Paul Jones' gallery? -frank Mishka wrote: ...or, are you trying to be the single sane person here? that's pretentious! mishka -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens
Just a little confused... Am I picturing this right - you couple the mounting flanges together, leaving the 2 front elements as front and back? Is the focal length summed? One apperture used or both? scratching head Mike Y - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens I have often coupled two 35mm lenses together. I get a coverage of somewhat less than a third that given by one of them alone. D :-) Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:09 AM Subject: Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens Evan, A onetime work acquaintance of mine, at the Australian Museum, was Jim Frazier of Mantis Films, whose hobby was to tinker with dismantled lenses looking to discover the answer to some of his optical challenges. As it turns out he did find the answers, which are now closely guarded trade secrets, and went on to film many of the insect sequences in David Attenborough's Life on Earth, to forge a unique joint venture with Panavision who manufacture and rent out his lens designs without actually knowing what the optical principle of them is, and to win an Oscar for his contribution to the motion picture industry. He once attempted to explain his lenses optical principle to me over a beer, and I vaguely understood it at the time. How I wish I could remember it better now! And all this began because he tinkered with bits of lenses. Go for it! Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I'm getting pretty close on my homemade LF project so I'm starting to think about lenses. I could have sworn I heard once that you could couple two 35mm lenses together and get enough coverage for a 4x5. Has anyone ever heard of this? If I could homebrew a LF lens out of a couple of k mounts I could contribute to PUG with a clear conscience. Evan Who is increasingly finding he has little use for the miniature format.
Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens
- Original Message - From: Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:02 PM Subject: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens Well I'm getting pretty close on my homemade LF project so I'm starting to think about lenses. I could have sworn I heard once that you could couple two 35mm lenses together and get enough coverage for a 4x5. Has anyone ever heard of this? If I could homebrew a LF lens out of a couple of k mounts I could contribute to PUG with a clear conscience. I'm working my way into LF, did you design your own camera? I've found the norwegion site for camera builders - any other recomendations for books? Having way more time than money, I'm thinking about doing this for 8x10... thx Mike Y Evan Who is increasingly finding he has little use for the miniature format.
Re: September PUG Favourite
i definitely could, that's for sure. kinda like a breath of fresh air. mishka - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: Re: September PUG Favourite Well, actually, I ~was~ thinking we could all use a momentary diversion... :-) -frank Mishka wrote: ...or, are you trying to be the single sane person here? that's pretentious! mishka -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll
Hello David, 1. FA100/f2.8 Macro Excellent lens, true macro fast short telephoto all in one lens. Thanks for your vote! Arnold
Re: Is Pentax dying?
Chris Brogden wrote: Here's some stuff to think about... Pentax survived throughout the 90's largely on the strength of their ps lineup, which was very impressive. Now that more and more people are switching to digital, what will Pentax have to offer in a few years? = snipped = So... where does everyone else see Pentax in a few years? chris One scenario might be joining up with Epson (really Seiko Epson Corp.) and sharing each other's innovations and quality in making a fine digital camera. Those of you who have successfully ignored Epson as a force in digital cameras ought to visit their site and look around. Their latest camera is a 4.8 MPixel 3X zoom camera. PhotoPC 3100Z. Visit a camera store and handle one. A Pentax/Epson affiliation would not hurt MY feelings! ;^) keith whaley
OT: Sigma DSLR
check out full size samples: pretty impressive http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02092502sigmasd9samples.asp Now, if there were a K mount adapter for that... Mishka
Re: Finally, some digital sense out of the madness...
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But at what cost? My point was that if you're going to want hard copies (film) of your best image what point is there to use digital in the first place? lots. do you make straight prints from film without adjusting color or anything else? if you have done your color setup right, you make far fewer prints from a single original to get the print you want. then there is a simple matter of retouching the results. dust creeps in every time you take the slide or negative out to print. scan and fix once. there is a reason that a lot of photographers shoot film only to scan and stay digital from there. the difference between 12MP of the new Kodak camera and the 24-30MP of my Nikon slide scanner is not nearly as large as you think. skipping the processing and scanning step would be my preference. Galen Rowell shot 35mm exclusively and his company sells display prints that are up to 50 inches in the shortest dimension. they have no grain unless he wanted it because he processes it out during digital production. Herb
Re: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics
I read about a technique for scanning BW negs recently (I forget where) that seems to work pretty well, or at least better that the way I had been doing things. The author recommended scanning the negs as color *positives*, using the scanner's highest bit-depth and resolution. Get the levels approximately correct before scanning, then scan and save. Open the image in photoshop, invert the image and make final levels adjustments there. A bit convoluted, but it does seem to produce good results. I'm still far form satisfied with scanning traditional BW negatives (I don't use chromogenic BW film) but I'm making progress. Slowly. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: Looking Pro
Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Dan Scott wrote: No hat, no one gives a rat's fanny; hat, and I suddenly become The Photographer. Oooh, gif, gif - let us all see The Hat! I second that! We all want to see The Photographer hat! (So we can each get one and become Photographers too.) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: Hasselblad 645 autofocus
Umm. Wow. Evan Albano wrote: Hasselblad launched a 645 af system, the H1. For details go to www.hasselblad.com It looks as a kwel beast Regards Albano (Happy with his old 6x7)
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
It's [ZX-5n/MZ-5n] basically a highly spec'd early 80's MF camera that happens to have AF and is made of plastic. I still love it's interface. Yes - the highly spec'd early 80's MF camera that comes to mind is the Super Program/A from 1983. My impression when using my wife's ZX-5n or my daughter-in-law's ZX-5n is that it's a Super Program with AF (which helped my wife's transition to the ZX-5n, since she previously had been using a Super Program). Fred
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
I'm really hoping Pentax does not pursue a DSLR. Then people will bitch and moan and threaten to switch and leave the list. It should make for some interesting emails. I hope that was said tongue-in-cheek. It would be kind of sad if PDML members would be wishing the worst for Pentax and for other PDML members. Fred
Velivia
on 9/25/02 4:20 AM, Bruce Dayton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, there is yet another problem with this question. There are characteristics of films that will make them the right or wrong choice for a given situation. For example - Velvia works great when the lighting is flat or the scene needs some pumping up. But it is a poor choice to do some portraits or wedding work. Some films handle wide contrasts, some don't. Some produce great skin tones, some don't. I shot my first roll of Velvia last weekend, of the new Botanical Centre in Wolfville. I was amazed at how well they turned out! One of my interiors is very green, but that might be due to the lighting source. Personally, I think it looks kinda cool! Margo
Re: Is Pentax dying?
Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, if what most people's claim was true (companies lose money by offering digital cameras), Pentax has had no hurry to enter this market yet. Afterall, business is business, money earning is still the priority. You don't compete for no reason. I believe this is probably correct: Digital SLRs are likely money losers now - but everyone expects they will become profitable eventually. What Pentax has to do is a balancing act: Getting into the digital market sooner means losing more money and having an obsolete DSLR sooner. Waiting too long means running the risk that people will bail out and switch to other systems. What most people on this mailing list want isn't the first digital SLR that will take their SMC Pentax lenses; it's the *second* (or even third) one, which will be less expensive and have higher resolution, of course ;-) Pentax needs to make a product that's as good as they can, yet loses them as little money as possible. A camera that becomes available *soon* enough to keep too many people from switching systems and yet which is developed *late* enough to incorporate sufficient technology to prevent it becoming obsolete too quickly. Not an enviable task. It's certainly one *I* would like to be responsible for. Although I'm certainly not going to stop second-guessing Pentax with the rest of you! (Being an armchair corporate manager is such fun!) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
Well, Rob, that may be true, but I would rather have them be just a bit larger but a lot nicer to focus. Just my 2 f-stops worth... ;-) I think the AF mechanism could be extracted from Limited lenses and still working perfectly, without AF of course. I agree, Alan, but I just don't think that it would be economically feasible for Pentax to come out with a gutted manual focus version of any of the Limited lenses. If Pentax did do so, however, I'd snatch up an mf version of the 31/1.8 in a heartbeat... Fred
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
The real thing, resplendent in its 1990s era technology, would really get peoples creative writing juices flowing. It'll be a rerun of the MZ-S. They'll release a good DSLR body, then the conversation will shift to I don't like it because. But, I'll suspect that I myself could be very happy with a digitized version of the MZ-S. No, it wouldn't be perfect, but it would fit a lot of very neat lenses... Fred
Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens
Bingo. An old extension tube and lens mount from a busted camera grafted to the other end. Evan Michael Yehle Just a little confused... Am I picturing this right - you couple the mounting flanges together, leaving the 2 front elements as front and back? Is the focal length summed? One apperture used or both? scratching head Mike Y
RE: Sigma DSLR
OK, now I am thinking about buying one. I was toying with a PS, but that could cost up to a grand anyway. For £1500 I could get one of these and a 24/28-70 (40/50-120 after multiplier) lens and have the perfect family snapshot digicam. I am sure I will be thinking of something else tomorrow though... -Original Message- From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2002 12:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Sigma DSLR check out full size samples: pretty impressive http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02092502sigmasd9samples.asp Now, if there were a K mount adapter for that... Mishka
Re: Is Pentax dying?
What Pentax has to do is a balancing act: [snip] Waiting too long means running the risk that people will bail out and switch to other systems. That is a distinctly real problem. (It won't happen to me, but it will happen to many, I suspect.) What most people on this mailing list want isn't the first digital SLR that will take their SMC Pentax lenses; it's the *second* (or even third) one, which will be less expensive and have higher resolution, of course ;-) This is true. However, to go a step further, many of us would buy that ~first~ K-mount DSLR ~AND~ the second or the third... Pentax needs to make a product that's as good as they can, yet loses them as little money as possible. A camera that becomes available *soon* enough to keep too many people from switching systems and yet which is developed *late* enough to incorporate sufficient technology to prevent it becoming obsolete too quickly. Pentax, are you listening? Pentax...? Pentax...? Fred
Re: September PUG Favourite
Wow, Frank...thnks so much for your generous appreciation. Cheers, Bob Frank Theriault wrote: but I at least want to give a number one prize, which is (drum roll, please): Chair by Bob Poe It hit me as I was going through the thumbnails, and the more I looked at the larger image, the more I loved it. -- = What boots up must come down. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Camera Canada?
Quick question to the list Camera Canada, the on-line store Has anyone used them? tia W. --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
I don't want digital *instead* of glass. I just want a digital body I can use my Pentax glass on. That way I can shoot film or digital, whichever is appropriate to the situation, and have my investment in Pentax lenses be a better value. My thoughts, exactly. Right now I have some customers that want digital pictures and others that want film. I'd be ever so much happier if I could keep them happy with just a Pentax system. And there'd also be customers such as I that would really want just a Pentax system. Fred
TOPDML?
I will be back in TO on October 5th. I could be available on the 6th (Sunday) for a TOPDML. Dave Brooks has the posters for distribution. Let's hear it from the group. Jeff.
Re: My red face (Was: Dry firing)
Personally, I think these cameras are smarter than we think and deliberately change to make us feel foolish. Yours in paranoia, Steve
Re: Looking Pro and Cheap tripods
Did your pics look professional? That's all that matters I guarantee coming in with an MZ-3, a zoom lens, an old-fashion flash and a cheap tripod didn't do go a long way to making you appear like a pro. But who cares... you're not a pro so don't worry about it... Vic I shot BW and developed the film yesterday. If by pro you mean well-exposed, nicely composed, sharp and with no horrible flash shawdows, then Yes, the negs do look pro! I took my cheap tripod instead of my more substantial Manfrotto since I had to pile my gear in a commuter van! My MZ-3 looked quite impressive next to the point and shots everyone else had. The only other SLR I noticed was a Minolta with program modes with a off-brand 28-200. For the record, I am not a pro but rather a Photraphy/Digital Imaging student at the Community College. I WANT to be a pro, so I'm excited when I get hired to shoot stuff! I spend all my $$ on film and other supplies but I do allow myself to fantasize about the MZ-S and other pro bodies. Margo
Re: OT: Hasselblad and bokeh
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's the first time I see official manufacturer stuff talking about bokeh, including all brands. I thought Nikon actually manufactured a lens that somehow could vary the amount of out of focus areas or something. I may be making this up, but I was pretty sure I'd read that somewhere. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens
I'm ashamed to say I copied my design 99% from this site. http://www.aplac.hut.fi/~sakari/alnus45.html I've cobbled together a simple 4x5 made mostly of baltic birch which easily obtained at local crafts store. Jon Grepstad's http://home.online.no/~gjon/ pages are a wonderful refernce I didn't buy his book but I wish I had it probably would have saved me a lot of headaches making the back. I have to confess this was my second attempt the first was a 5x7 which I gave up on after a couple of weeks. I thought about an 8x10 but like you I have more time than money and I could justify the roughly $2 per shot of Tri-X that comes along with it. Evan From: Michael Yehle I'm working my way into LF, did you design your own camera? I've found the norwegion site for camera builders - any other recomendations for books? Having way more time than money, I'm thinking about doing this for 8x10... thx Mike Y
Re: Is Pentax dying?
Not into servicing,just ask WW. Dave Begin Original Message From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 02:10:43 -0500 (CDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is Pentax dying? Here's some stuff to think about... Pentax survived throughout the 90's So... where does everyone else see Pentax in a few years? chris End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
F 28mm 2.8: a dog or a good one?
Hi, gang I wanted to know opinions on F 28mm 2.8 lens, and how it compares optically to A 28mm 2.8 Build quality is a joke (FA version is way better), but I want to know about optical quality. My FA 24mm has gone and I need a replacement. I saw it for a good price (50 usd) and wanted to know if it's good or not regards = Albano Garcia El Pibe Asahi __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: TOPDML?
I want my poster so count me in. I'll not show too late this time either --- Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be back in TO on October 5th. I could be available on the 6th (Sunday) for a TOPDML. Dave Brooks has the posters for distribution. Let's hear it from the group. Jeff. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Camera Canada?
Never heard of it Wendy,Sorry Dave Begin Original Message From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:30:55 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera Canada? Quick question to the list Camera Canada, the on-line store Has anyone used them? tia W. --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
UK pdmlers - better learn how to set your VCRs...
Hi, I've just learned that Channel 4 will be showing Christian Frei's highly-regarded documentary about James Nachtwey 'War Photographer' at 7pm on Saturday 28th September. http://www.war-photographer.com/ Cheers, Bob
Re: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom5,6/250-600)
Last time I looked, the 5-6 MP interchangeable lens SLR for about $2000 was a 21st century development, or at least that's when it became common. Remember the Canon D60 has only been out for about a year. It just seems longer . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Camera Canada?
Well, According to the Network Solutions/Verisign WHOIS info: Registrant Info: Tritan Management Group Joe Todd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (519) 661-0325 FAX: (519) 660-8100 217 Dundas Street London, ONTARIO N6A1H1 CA The domain's been registered since Feb 2000. I've been to London and I've driven down Dundas St and it's a valid address but I don't recall seeing a camera store - not that this has to be a store per se - prices look decent though. You can always call the number that's listed and see what happens. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:30:55 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera Canada? Quick question to the list Camera Canada, the on-line store Has anyone used them? tia W. --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
RE: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom5,6/250-600)
Not even that long - it was only announced in February. It has been shipping for less than 6 months!! -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] that's when it became common. Remember the Canon D60 has only been out for about a year. It just seems longer . . .
Re: September PUG Favourite
I agree that Poe's chair is a great photograph. My personal favorite, however, is John Coyle's Refracted, not Reflected. It has a overall simplicity blended with sublte complexity in the details. The concept is powerful, and the esxecution, IMHO, flawless. I even love the title, both for the James Bond reference and for the purported evasion of the theme of the month. frank theriault wrote: Hi, As always, I had the best of intentions at the beginning of the month. I wanted to, right off the mark, indicate my favourite, then, later in the month, at my leisure, mention a few honourable mentions. Of course, the road to hell... Well, looks like I'll only have time to mention my absolute favourite. I won't say that I may not come back in the next week with a few more, but I at least want to give a number one prize, which is (drum roll, please): Chair by Bob Poe It hit me as I was going through the thumbnails, and the more I looked at the larger image, the more I loved it. It's so simple, I thought, but then why the hell can't I do stuff like this? I think it's this deceptive simplicity that got me. What it really is, though, is amazing composition. I'm a sucker for taking a different look at everyday objects, and what could be more ordinary and mundane than this well used chair? But, the beautiful angles of the chair itself, the lovely soft shadow in the background, the shadows off the right leg, all come together to form an almost abstract form. And, it could only work in bw (and HP5+ is a perfect choice here, imho). As always, my words fail to express my feelings here, but suffice to say that I'm blown away by this one, Bob. Not to mention that it's up against some pretty stiff competition (as always). thanks, Bob, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
Re: F 28mm 2.8: a dog or a good one?
I wanted to know opinions on F 28mm 2.8 lens, and how it compares optically to A 28mm 2.8 Build quality is a joke (FA version is way better), but I want to know about optical quality. I once had an A 28/2.8, and I found it to be somewhat soft (although the build quality was reasonable). I believe that the F 28/2.8 is optically the same (but I can't speak for the build quality). I much prefer the K 28/2, the A 28/2, or the K 28/3.5. My FA 24mm has gone and I need a replacement. Sorry to hear of your loss. However, a 28mm lens is really not a proper replacement for a 24mm lens. Let's face it - once you've used a 24mm lens, you're not going to be happy with a 28mm telephoto (g) lens - you've got to have another 24mm lens or even something w-i-d-e-r - g. Fred
Re: Yo, Mark (FW: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender)
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't seem to email you...I'll take you up on your offer If my main email address is inaccessible try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
RE: Camera Canada?
You don't recall seeing the shop in this photo then? http://www.cameracanada.com/company.html They seem to be called Forest City Image Centre in real life... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2002 14:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Camera Canada? Well, According to the Network Solutions/Verisign WHOIS info: Registrant Info: Tritan Management Group Joe Todd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (519) 661-0325 FAX: (519) 660-8100 217 Dundas Street London, ONTARIO N6A1H1 CA The domain's been registered since Feb 2000. I've been to London and I've driven down Dundas St and it's a valid address but I don't recall seeing a camera store - not that this has to be a store per se - prices look decent though. You can always call the number that's listed and see what happens. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:30:55 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera Canada? Quick question to the list Camera Canada, the on-line store Has anyone used them? tia W. --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: F 28mm 2.8: a dog or a good one?
I said: However, a 28mm lens is really not a proper replacement for a 24mm lens. Let's face it - once you've used a 24mm lens, you're not going to be happy with a 28mm telephoto (g) lens - you've got to have another 24mm lens or even something w-i-d-e-r - g. Actually, I didn't think of my own direct experience related to the above before sending it. I also used to have a 24/2.8 lens (an A version), as well as a couple of 28mm lenses at that time, and an A 20/2.8. What I found happening was that I did often use a 28mm lens when I wanted wide, but I generally went with the 20/2.8 when I wanted w-i-d-e-r, usually bypassing the 24/2.8. So, I eventually liberated the 24/2.8, sending it along to a good home where it would not be so neglected - g. Fred
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: purchases. If a Pentax DSLR comes along, I'll be pissed...natually. They are really f**king over everyone that went out and got a MZ-S kit IMHO. So You bought, at the time, the nicest Pentax film body made. That was then, this is now. Now something new comes out, so you no longer have the nicest. Its called progress. This is the way it works. If you don't wish to play that sort of game, buy a vintage classic that will only GAIN in value. Ergo, if you want to look like you're rich and powerful, and not have to worry about upgrading to a new flagship camera every so often, buy a classic Leica, otherwise, deal. I seriously don't fault your attention gathering attitude, everyone does it (myself included). However, to kick and cry because there's something better coming down the pipe is just plain childish and stupid. There will always be something new and better, regardless of brand. Hey, if nothing else, take solace in the fact that no one knows your MZ-S is no longer hot sheet because no one even knows what it is. Pentax? Aren't they those people who make the K1000? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom5,6/250-600)
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Re: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom5,6/250-600) Last time I looked, the 5-6 MP interchangeable lens SLR for about $2000 was a 21st century development, or at least that's when it became common. Remember the Canon D60 has only been out for about a year. It just seems longer . . . You should look again. Kodak hybridized a Nikon F4 into a 6mp digital camera in 1992. William Robb
Re: Sharpest color 35mm film available???
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Paul Stenquist wrote: I think the most for the most apparent sharpness, you should try Ektachrome 100S. Obviously, transparency films are finer grained than negative films. Well, if you read the press release, you'll notice that Kodak is cancelling E100S for E100G.. thanks, guys. :) I just started dabbling in transparancy, and I'm glad I never bothered to try either E100S or E100SW and get attached to them, although I was planning on a few rolls of the SW for this coming autumn. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Hasselblad 645 autofocus
Isn't the XPan is a rebadged Fuji as well? This is the kind of alliance that Pentax should be exploring. But perhaps they're wary of joint ventures since the HP debacle, shame if that's the case. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speculation is that Fuji's maybe making the whole camera. They're definitely making the lenses. Cheers, Dave
RE: Camera Canada?
I was there on business @ 220 Dundas so I wasn't too interested in the surroundings :-) I do have to go back to London in late October/November so I will plan on dropping by. Prices seem (online at least) to be a tad cheaper than Henry's - Henry's Pentax 100mm FA 2.8 Macro - $899.99 Camera Canada Pentax 100mm FA 2.8 Macro - $772.80 Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:03:52 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Camera Canada? You don't recall seeing the shop in this photo then? http://www.cameracanada.com/company.html They seem to be called Forest City Image Centre in real life... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2002 14:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Camera Canada? Well, According to the Network Solutions/Verisign WHOIS info: Registrant Info: Tritan Management Group Joe Todd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (519) 661-0325 FAX: (519) 660-8100 217 Dundas Street London, ONTARIO N6A1H1 CA The domain's been registered since Feb 2000. I've been to London and I've driven down Dundas St and it's a valid address but I don't recall seeing a camera store - not that this has to be a store per se - prices look decent though. You can always call the number that's listed and see what happens. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:30:55 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Camera Canada? Quick question to the list Camera Canada, the on-line store Has anyone used them? tia W. --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Rob Studdert wrote: Leicas suck, at a glance you can't tell if it's 30 years old or 3 months old, where's the pose value in that :-( Yeah, but the L will make image concious camera geeks green with envy. I just want a Leica if its attached to a Noctilux f 1.0 lens (that is the Noctilux, I believe?) Is there anything faster than an f 1.0 lens? I seem to remember reading of Stanley Kubrick commisioning the build of an f 0.8 lens for Barry Lyndon, but for actual still photo work? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Is Pentax dying?
The problem is that some clients abrogate the photographers right to shoot on the most appropriate media by specifying that their job MUST be shot on digital media. Plus, digital files put 1st generation photos directly into the clients' hands, and clients are not the greatest advocates of photographers' intellectual property rights. But it's too late to put the genie back into the bottle. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) In fact, most professionals don't need it. Newspaper photographers and professionals on immediate deadlines need it. (snip)
OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs..
http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/september/rwt_art.htm Its not Pentax related, but its interesting to read none the less (and contains no offcolour jokes about the Pope or pictures of Prince Harry's funny haircut). -g. (ps: feel free to flame me off-list for this if you disagree with my posting it, I think we've got enough arguments running regarding DSLRs this week...) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
OT: OlyDak unveiled at Photokina
http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PHOTOKINA-2002/news/olympus/slr _uk.html Cotty Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Taking the 67II out to Big Bend NP
Hi Dan, Thanks for the additional info! On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:39:55 -0500, Dan Scott wrote: Well, if you were looking up at Santa Elena Canyon from the shore of the Rig Grande, you weren't on the Mesa de Anguila. If you were looking down at Santa Elena Canyon from the Very Big Rock that forms the US side of the canyon, you were on the Mesa de Anguila. I was looking up :-) I will check my maps to see if it is doable to get up there with the 67 ... And yes, lightning loves the top of that thing. The last time I was there with a buddy, as the sun was going down, we decided to wimp out and find something softer to sleep on. As we were crossing the flood plain west of the mesa, lightning started striking the area we had abandonned (and all around it, too). While it would of been fun to stay and watch the light show, it seemed like a good idea to the hell off of the flood plain (which was much fun in the dark). g It's definately a medium or large format sort of place. I bet you are going to have a great time. I hope so! I'll bring the 45mm, the new 100mm macro, the 200mm and some filters plus a good tripod, so I'll be prepaired for most opportunities ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:10:30PM +0100, Kristian Walsh wrote: Thanks for the answers. Mine has that halo, but only on negative film; on transparency film it's perfectly sharp. So it seems mine isn't the only one that does this. With PF15 set to 1 I've got this smudge on Fuji Superia 100 400, Kodak Gold 800 and Royal Supra 200 (if that's the right name). I'll have a go at adjusting the density on the next few rolls and see what happens. I'm also likely to try it on black and white this weekend. On a slightly different tack, does anyone know if the IR remote for the BG-10 actually exists. This was a surprise feature to me and seems like a good idea, but I've never seen the remote mentioned anywhere. -- So much style without substance So much stuff without style It's hard to recognise a real thing That comes along once in a while
OT: Something Ugly
You might think a chrome Limited lens on your LX or MZ-S has no eye appeal, but I was in Cord Camera the other day, and on their shelf was the ugliest combination: FM3a with the new 45mm in chrome. Really gross looking. Collin
Re: UK pdmlers - better learn how to set your VCRs...
I've just learned that Channel 4 will be showing Christian Frei's highly-regarded documentary about James Nachtwey 'War Photographer' at 7pm on Saturday 28th September. http://www.war-photographer.com/ Nice one. Thanks Bob. Cot Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
Hi, Wednesday, September 25, 2002, 3:23:19 PM, you wrote: Leicas suck, at a glance you can't tell if it's 30 years old or 3 months old, where's the pose value in that :-( It's all about the secret thrill you get when you're sucking a Wall's Magnum ice cream, mate, and think 'This is what Capa would have chosen' g. --- Bob
OT: eBay shadyness
Would *you* bid on this?! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1383940544 There is no such thing as a 'worldwide warranty' from Canon... Cot Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Is Pentax dying?
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely it could be that difficult lets face it they've got a fair array of other manufacturers equipment to reverse engineer and fault so I can't see why it wouldn't be a pretty good first attempt. If the MZ-S is any indication the original 6MP camera that was presented would have been well up there WRT it peers. Oly did it with the E-10 too, the subsequent release of the E-20 didn't send a hoard of E-10 users scurrying off to sell their E-10s. In fact most review sites suggested the gains presented by the E-20 were not significant enough to warrant upgrade for existing E-10 owners. Rob, I think you misunderstood: It's not the *engineering* I think would be difficult, it's the balance of capability vs. affordability and, in particular, the balance between introducing it too soon to make a profit (the chipsets, etc. are going to continue getting cheaper) and too late (when too many people have moved to Canon, Nikon, etc.) to be a success. Digital SLRs are still in their formative years but, as indicated in the Luminous Landscape article, the market is starting to stabilize. When things settle down, chipsets will me more standardized and produced in greater quantity and prices will come down (like for CD player chipsets in the 1980s). Due to die size, the sensor itself won't come down in price as drastically, but I expect improvements in CMOS fabrication to come and make sensors somewhat less expensive than they are now. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs..
I've been in a similar situation a few months ago -- trying to take a pic of a new bridge. I have a very strong opinion on current security measures as well as people feeding public histeria (Russians/Arab Terrorists/Green Monsters Are Coming!). Mishka -Original Message- From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs.. http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/september/rwt_art.htm Its not Pentax related, but its interesting to read none the less (and contains no offcolour jokes about the Pope or pictures of Prince Harry's funny haircut). -g. (ps: feel free to flame me off-list for this if you disagree with my posting it, I think we've got enough arguments running regarding DSLRs this week...) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:24:16 -0400 (EDT), gfen wrote: I just want a Leica if its attached to a Noctilux f 1.0 lens (that is the Noctilux, I believe?) Is there anything faster than an f 1.0 lens? I seem to remember reading of Stanley Kubrick commisioning the build of an f 0.8 lens for Barry Lyndon, but for actual still photo work? There is an f 0.9 lens for canon I think, but that is an old prototype AFAIK Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery
Re: Looking Pro
It depends on your terms of employment. At 11:20 AM 9/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: Thanks for the positive reinforcement! I know a reporter for a local paper who for years used no other body than a K1000. Then, her bosses decided to retire their wet darkroom so she had to purchase a Digital! Our staff photographer uses a Leica rangefinder (older than M6, I think) and Nikon F3's. The pressure got so intense on him to go digital that he is now using a borrowed E-20. Of course, no one wants to spend the money to get him an interchangeable lens DSLR. Even the E-20 is borrowed; they gave him a Coolpix 950. There is, of course, the scanner option, but they want photos for the Website immediately after the event, and digital is the best option for that. How do people feel about that? Is it reasonable to say look, we only want web photos, so just use a PS, or is the photographer entitled to use equipment sufficiently good for him to be comfortable with the level of control? I have some sympathy for both sides in this case. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: eBay shadyness
If he accepts escrow (and, preferably, pays for it too). Mishka -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:01:30 +0100 Subject: OT: eBay shadyness Would *you* bid on this?! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1383940544 There is no such thing as a 'worldwide warranty' from Canon... Cot Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Is Pentax dying?
Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that some clients abrogate the photographers right to shoot on the most appropriate media by specifying that their job MUST be shot on digital media. There are still plenty that don't accept digital now! I sent some stuff to Runner's World magazine earlier this year and found they don't accept digital files: Slides only! Plus, digital files put 1st generation photos directly into the clients' hands, and clients are not the greatest advocates of photographers' intellectual property rights. True. There are advantages to this, though. With slides, you can only submit the original to one client - you have to wait until they decide they don't want to use it before you can send it out for another try. With digital, you can submit an original to several clients at the same time. Of course, you can submit slides to multiple prospective clients by making duplicates, but there's always a loss of quality with dupes, as well as the time and expense of making them. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
It's not the sound so much as the feel. It's got a whirry feel to it. It doesn't bother me since it's a smooth gentle whirr but I can see how it might bother others. At 11:28 PM 9/24/2002 -0700, Alan Chan wrote: How about making manual focus only versions? I heard they make them in Leica mount, why not KA? I could be wrong, but I think the Leica mount version was meant for the Japanese market mainly where people like to collect unique items, useful or not. Even Ricoh made a 28/2.8 in Leica mount after the success of the original GR-1. KA mount market is different where most KA mount users aren't willing to pay the premium for high quality lenses. Besides, was the sound really so annoying to warrant a set of manual focus version? I consider myself a very picky person and never noticed it was a concern, until someone raised the issue here (I still don't think its an issue to me). As far as I am concerned, the focus windows frames peeled themselves off the FA* lenses is a very real issue, stupid and annoying design. I am certian Pal could tell you guys more. :( regards, Alan Chan
Re: OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs..
Damn, I hadn't heard about the green monsters. When'd that happen? At 08:06 PM 9/25/2002 +0400, you wrote: I've been in a similar situation a few months ago -- trying to take a pic of a new bridge. I have a very strong opinion on current security measures as well as people feeding public histeria (Russians/Arab Terrorists/Green Monsters Are Coming!). Mishka -Original Message- From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs.. http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/september/rwt_art.htm Its not Pentax related, but its interesting to read none the less (and contains no offcolour jokes about the Pope or pictures of Prince Harry's funny haircut). -g. (ps: feel free to flame me off-list for this if you disagree with my posting it, I think we've got enough arguments running regarding DSLRs this week...) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
No it's better than a super program, it has dials instead of those stupid buttons. Some things we, (as in people), got right the first time like changing shutter speeds and changing radio stations. At 08:08 AM 9/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: It's [ZX-5n/MZ-5n] basically a highly spec'd early 80's MF camera that happens to have AF and is made of plastic. I still love it's interface. Yes - the highly spec'd early 80's MF camera that comes to mind is the Super Program/A from 1983. My impression when using my wife's ZX-5n or my daughter-in-law's ZX-5n is that it's a Super Program with AF (which helped my wife's transition to the ZX-5n, since she previously had been using a Super Program). Fred
Re: Is Pentax dying?
There are still plenty that don't accept digital now! I sent some stuff to Runner's World magazine earlier this year and found they don't accept digital files: Slides only! making slides from digital originals can be done but it's not cheap. i don't understand the pricing structure either, since it is per megabyte of file size for all the places near me. i just did 16 for a calendar submission and it came out to $8 each, after accounting for files that were above or below the 2 megabyte JPG mark. Herb
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
But the congnisoti, (I'm not even sure that I spelled that correctly and the damned spell checker is no help), will know who you are. At 12:23 AM 9/26/2002 +1000, you wrote: On 25 Sep 2002 at 9:31, gfen wrote: Ergo, if you want to look like you're rich and powerful, and not have to worry about upgrading to a new flagship camera every so often, buy a classic Leica, otherwise, deal. Leicas suck, at a glance you can't tell if it's 30 years old or 3 months old, where's the pose value in that :-( Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
News from the Photokina ??????????????
Hallo, the first Photokina day is over and I can't find any news from Pentax on the net. There are also no news from Minolta and Nikon. Yes, there is a new Hasselblad AF which looks like a gun from Startrek Has anybody news?? Regards Rüdiger
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jan van Wijk wrote: Is there anything faster than an f 1.0 lens? I seem to remember reading of Stanley Kubrick commisioning the build of an f 0.8 lens for Barry Lyndon, but for actual still photo work? There is an f 0.9 lens for canon I think, but that is an old prototype AFAIK Started looking into it.. it was an f 0.7 lens made by Zeiss for NASA, and modified by Kubrick for film use. Unsure if it was for 16mm or 35mm film, and also what focal length it was. Said it was twice as fast as any lens before it. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: Is Pentax dying?
Go to the chat room on http://www.pentax-digitalworld.de/ and you will notice: here take place regelmabig live chats approximately around the digital photography. To professional photographer the Thomas' haltner betrayal tipps cheat, tricks and small secrets, as they come to better pictures. if they chatten also, they learn others pentax befriended do know and experience them more from the fascinating pixel world. the nachste is chat to 27.09th, of 20-22 o'clock. The topic is this time: new approximately around photokina. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2002 17:24 To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is Pentax dying? There are still plenty that don't accept digital now! I sent some stuff to Runner's World magazine earlier this year and found they don't accept digital files: Slides only! making slides from digital originals can be done but it's not cheap. i don't understand the pricing structure either, since it is per megabyte of file size for all the places near me. i just did 16 for a calendar submission and it came out to $8 each, after accounting for files that were above or below the 2 megabyte JPG mark. Herb
another round - OT
I'd like to ask those who have recently concluded travel if there have been changes to airport security since this summer? Are the screeners using more powerful xray machines? Is it safe to have film pass through the xray or should I ask for a handcheck? More importantly do they still do handchecks with a smile? Thank you very much. Francis __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Hasselblad and bokeh
They do. The 2 DC (Defocus Control) lenses are for portraits and are 105 and 135mm/2. From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought Nikon actually manufactured a lens that somehow could vary the amount of out of focus areas or something. I may be making this up, but I was pretty sure I'd read that somewhere. --
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #185
Sorry Treena, I forgot that this wasn't a mens locker room. BR From: Treena Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, I have to say this. I don't care how knowledgeable you may be, I cannot take seriously anyone who spouts such utterly juvenile drivel as this. You can argue your point without bringing it down to kindergarten level.
RE: UK pdmlers - better learn how to set your VCRs...
Oh yeah - and then send me the tape, please :))) Lukasz -Original Message- From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UK pdmlers - better learn how to set your VCRs... Hi, I've just learned that Channel 4 will be showing Christian Frei's highly-regarded documentary about James Nachtwey 'War Photographer' at 7pm on Saturday 28th September. http://www.war-photographer.com/ Cheers, Bob
RE: Is Pentax dying?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Rob Brigham wrote: here take place regelmabig live chats approximately around the digital photography. To professional photographer the Thomas' haltner betrayal tipps cheat, tricks and small secrets, as they come to better pictures. if they chatten also, they learn others pentax befriended do know and experience them more from the fascinating pixel world. the nachste is chat to 27.09th, of 20-22 o'clock. The topic is this time: new approximately around photokina. Can someone translate the Pidgin German into Pidgin English? :) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: another round - OT
In Canada (I travelled from Toronto to Vancouver and back) I travelled with color print, color slide and BW film and none got harmed going through the xray machines in the airport. Color Print film was Portra 400 NC and Portra BW, Color Slide film was Elitechrome 100, and BW film was Ilford HP5+ Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Francis Alviar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: another round - OT I'd like to ask those who have recently concluded travel if there have been changes to airport security since this summer? Are the screeners using more powerful xray machines? Is it safe to have film pass through the xray or should I ask for a handcheck? More importantly do they still do handchecks with a smile? Thank you very much. Francis __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
RE: [OT] need help from Domke F-2 users
Thaks to all who've responded. I am now a very happy and proud owner of a black canvas Domke F-2 bag :) Thanks again, ukasz -Original Message- From: ukasz Kacperczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:17 AM To: pentax Subject: [OT] need help from Domke F-2 users Hi all, I'm considering buying this bag, and as usual I'd like to know your opinion. 1. What are you experiences with the F-2 (if any of course :) ? 2. Canvas or ballistic? 3. And the most important - how much gear do you fit in, and how comfotable/uncomfortable it is when it's full/almost full? Thanks in advance, ukasz
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, gfen wrote: Started looking into it.. it was an f 0.7 lens made by Zeiss for NASA, and modified by Kubrick for film use. Unsure if it was for 16mm or 35mm film, and also what focal length it was. Said it was twice as fast as any lens before it. If anyone really cares (nothing like responding to your own posts), I provide this link: http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/v13/msg09017.html And now, back to Pentax -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: another round - OT
I'd like to ask those who have recently concluded travel if there have been changes to airport security since this summer? Are the screeners using more powerful xray machines? Is it safe to have film pass through the xray or should I ask for a handcheck? More importantly do they still do handchecks with a smile? If you're in the states, they have to do a handcheck with a smile. If you've got time, demand one. No sense worrying about being an ass when your film's on the line. If you could find the FAA regs on the net (and I'm sure they're out there), print them out and give them to the checker. With that in mind, I flew to Uzbekistan this June with about 30 rolls of film and 15 packs of Polaroid 667 and 669 film (for my Land Camera 101, I love that thing :). I used two lead bags to hold the 35mm film, and carried al the film on the plane with me. My film was checked in Denver, Newark and London, and I managed to get it hand-checked in denver and Newark (I don't remember about London). On the way back, my film was run through X-Ray machines in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, three times in Frankfurt Airport in Germany, and once more in Washington. And after all was said and done, I took it in and didn't see a single bit of X-Ray damage. I guess the lead bags worked.
Re[2]: Is Pentax dying?
i have always thought that it's rather client's right to specify what they want (pay for!), rather than employee's. i mean, i can almost see it: i'm telling our clients, listen, windows sucks, here's the program for Irix that's far more appropriate for what you are doing... oh well... mishka Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that some clients abrogate the photographers right to shoot on the most appropriate media by specifying that their job MUST be shot on digital media.
RE: another round - OT
-Original Message- From: Francis Alviar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I'd like to ask those who have recently concluded travel if there have been changes to airport security since this summer? Are the screeners using more powerful xray machines? Is it safe to have film pass through the xray or should I ask for a handcheck? More importantly do they still do handchecks with a smile? I've flown a couple of times, and have had no problems getting a hand check. I think the key is to carry some high speed film such as Delta 3200, TMZ or Neopan 1600 along with what you normally shoot. If you have high speed film and ask for a hand check, they're obligated to do so in the U.S. They have the option of making you put it through the scanner if you don't have anything over 800. Arrive early. tv -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085
Re: another round - OT
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Francis Alviar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to ask those who have recently concluded travel I have done way too much travel, so I can answer this :) if there have been changes to airport security since this summer? Are the screeners using more powerful xray machines? Is it safe to have film pass through the xray or should I ask for a handcheck? It's probably your only option - other than buy and process film on your destination, that is. More importantly do they still do handchecks with a smile? In my experience, they do not offer handchecks - not even with a frown. I was bluntly told to either feed my films through the xray or be escorted off the airport. Whatever the legal pretext may be is largely irrelevant: regulations are just a piece of paper - the person in the uniform determines the implementation... Airport security personal can, if nothing else, make so much troubles for you that it is, imho, not worth standing too firmly on your rights while on site. (Write a letter of complaint afterwards, though.) Just my experiences... --thomas
Pentax prifit/loss
Here's the web page for the financials on Pentax: http://profiles.wisi.com/profiles/scripts/corpinfo.asp?cusip=C392W0060curco nv=392 They have been losing money for years, inspite of what Pal says. BR
Re: eBay shadyness
Besides the misspellings, the bulgarian location, a zero feedback seller, no picture of the actual item, and the line If I receive a good ofert I'll imediatly stop the auction for you! what would lead you to believe it's risky??? mike y - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: OT: eBay shadyness Would *you* bid on this?! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1383940544 There is no such thing as a 'worldwide warranty' from Canon... Cot Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Pentax prifit/loss
Here's the web page for the financials on Pentax: http://profiles.wisi.com/profiles/scripts/corpinfo.asp?cusip=C392W0060curco nv=392 They have been losing money for years, inspite of what Pal says. ... and oddly enough, their money-losing coincides with a downturn in the world economy as a whole! GOSH!! Dumbass.
Re: OT: Another story about The Man (tm) coming down on photogs..
Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, I hadn't heard about the green monsters. When'd that happen? They're not really green, it's the fluorescent lighting that makes them look that way. At 08:06 PM 9/25/2002 +0400, you wrote: I've been in a similar situation a few months ago -- trying to take a pic of a new bridge. I have a very strong opinion on current security measures as well as people feeding public histeria (Russians/Arab Terrorists/Green Monsters Are Coming!). -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
Sorry
Alright, I've calmed down a bit. Sorry about that little outlash in my email response to B. Rubenstein. It just rather annoys me to be on a mailing list with one who is basically against the idea of the mailing list, and brings very little that is constructive to the table. But that's okay, I've got procmail and /dev/null, and all is well with the world. Again, sorry about my loss of decorum there. :} Tom
RE: 25 hours to go: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Prime Lens Poll
FA 85/1.4 A 85/1.4 FA 77/1.8 -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 -Original Message- From: Arnold Stark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:02 PM To: PDML Subject: 25 hours to go: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Prime Lens Poll Hello again, dear members of the PDML, the SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Prime Lens Poll finishes in 25 hours. A BIG THANK YOU again to the 24 members of the PDML who have voted already. Again, it is not clear yet, what lenses will gather most points: The best 5 lenses now have 28, 24, 20, 18 and 18 points, so each of them might in the end become the winner. Please help determine the winner! Please choose your favourite SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Prime Lenses Again, IMAGINE that you have no short telephoto prime lens for your k-mount camera. Also imagine that you have more than enough money and a good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC Pentax short telephoto prime lenses. What SMC Pentax k-mount short telephoto prime lens would you like to get most (1st choice = 3 points)? What lens would you pick as your 2nd choice (=2 points), if your first choice was not available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (=1 point) if your 1st and 2nd choice were not available? Please choose among the following lenses: FA77/f1.8 Limited A*85/f1.4 FA*85/f1.4 IF K85/f1.8 M85/f2 K85/f2.2 Soft F85/f2.8 Soft FA85/f2.8 Soft M100/f2.8 A100/f2.8 A100/f2.8 Macro F100/f2.8 Macro FA100/f2.8 Macro FA100/f3.5 Macro K100/f4 Macro M100/f4 Macro A100/f4 Macro K105/f2.8 Rules: 1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice (please choose different lenses). You may choose less than 3 but not more than 3 choices. 2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception: Send your vote to the PDML if you have commented your choices, and you want the members of the PDML to know your comments. 3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Thursday, September 26th, 21:00 hours German time. Have fun with this poll, too, and thanks again or in advance for contributing. Arnold
Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens
What did you do for bellows (the biggest expense I see)? I'm leaning towards ebaying a decent set of bellows and ground glass and building around them... - Original Message - From: Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:46 PM Subject: Re: OT:Homebrewing a LF lens I'm ashamed to say I copied my design 99% from this site. http://www.aplac.hut.fi/~sakari/alnus45.html I've cobbled together a simple 4x5 made mostly of baltic birch which easily obtained at local crafts store. Jon Grepstad's http://home.online.no/~gjon/ pages are a wonderful refernce I didn't buy his book but I wish I had it probably would have saved me a lot of headaches making the back. I have to confess this was my second attempt the first was a 5x7 which I gave up on after a couple of weeks. I thought about an 8x10 but like you I have more time than money and I could justify the roughly $2 per shot of Tri-X that comes along with it. Evan From: Michael Yehle I'm working my way into LF, did you design your own camera? I've found the norwegion site for camera builders - any other recomendations for books? Having way more time than money, I'm thinking about doing this for 8x10... thx Mike Y
Re: Sorry
Over the years this list has always had 1 or 2 devils advocates that we have had to deal with. Can any of this lists old timers forget the infamous Who? That wasn't you, Bruce, was it? That's ok, it makes list life interesting. If we don't like the message in the majority of Bruce's threads, we still should consider them. You can't be looking at Pentax with rose colored glasses without taking into account the negative. It gives balance to our efforts. Lord knows most of us have vented from time to time about Pentax's baffling behavior in the SLR field. DG At 02:05 PM 9/25/02 -0400, you wrote: Alright, I've calmed down a bit. Sorry about that little outlash in my email response to B. Rubenstein. It just rather annoys me to be on a mailing list with one who is basically against the idea of the mailing list, and brings very little that is constructive to the table. But that's okay, I've got procmail and /dev/null, and all is well with the world. Again, sorry about my loss of decorum there. :} Tom
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 and Bye bye
Can't handle 300+ messages a day; don't wish to handle messages where people call each other 'Pencil dick' or 'Shit for Brains' and write 'fuck you!'; or where they insult beloved public figures and deride the values of others. Can't handle this puerile shit - so bye-bye for a while. D Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600 In a message dated 9/25/02 1:06:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *sigh* Read my other post. IMHO why are you asking me this anyhow? Is it constructive? Did I make an error in voicing my own IMHO personal opinion? Will a good answer satisfy you? You are also more than bordering on insult by saying The only thing f**king you over is you mind How ELSE do I read that? Are you friends with Bruce? Give a polite and positive critisism or opinion or shut the fuck up pencil-dick. Fuck you, Brad Dobo! I am personally insulted by YOUR language on the PDML. GROW UP.
Re: TOPDML?
Hi, Jeff, Maybe you missed it, but Dave C-S was talking about some big camera swap thingie on or about Oct 20th up in Woodbridge or some other place in the boonies (remember, everything north of Eglinton isn't Toronto g). I think there were a few who said yes, including me, but I've since been asked by the ex to take the kids that weekend, as she has unexpected plans, so I'm out for the weekend of the 20th. But, Oct 5th or 6th sounds great for me. Especially if Dave B can bring in our posters. What did you have in mind? We still haven't done anything in the hinterland yet (ie: your neck of the woods). Any ideas? regards, frank Jeff wrote: I will be back in TO on October 5th. I could be available on the 6th (Sunday) for a TOPDML. Dave Brooks has the posters for distribution. Let's hear it from the group. Jeff. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: TOPDML?
Brendan wrote: I want my poster so count me in. I'll not show too late this time either Uh-huh... vbg -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
