Re: Woo-hoo-DOH!
Mark Cassino wrote: > > I finally got my 15 minutes and likened myself to Homer Simpson (DOH! > Slapping forehead..) > > http://www.newhouse.com/archive/sefton010604.html > > - MCC > - > Way to go! MOre than 15 minutes worth, too... :) nice article, lovely photo. ann > Mark Cassino Photography > > Kalamazoo, MI > > http://www.markcassino.com > > -
Re: Vs: "Cloudy" filter
Thanks Raimo ... I know about yellow filter, but I'm just starting to learn the subtleties of color photography. I probably wouldn't have made the mistake you suggest. shel Raimo Korhonen wrote: > Check first - for B&W cloudy could mean yellow - makes clouds stand out in B&W.
Re: DSLR future wish-list
>> >> 1. Set up some special copyright notice on every frame. You know, like >> "(C) Boris Liberman with Love to A and B..." JF> Where? Actually in the image pixels? If not, then what happens if JF> you import the image into some editor that drops this information? JF> If actually in the pixels, do you move it to the correct edge when JF> the camera is used in portrait mode? Not to mention cropping ... No, not in the image. Let it be configurable. Some would add frame, others would put it in, how you called it, EXIF data... >> 2. Set up prefix to each file name - "ABWed-2004-01-01" instead of >> "DCS" or whatever they're using right now." JF> That's a standards violation, I believe. Omnigosh . Did not know there were an std already involved. But then I suppose it would be wrong to say that *istD (or any other such) support FAT32. FAT32, you know, allows for long file names... But then you're probably right. JF> I did like the suggestion that the original file name should be JF> stored in the EXIF data. I also like the way that the Canon (and, JF> I believe, Nikon) software allow you to perform the sort of renaming JF> you suggest as part of the copying from the CF card to the computer. JF> Perhaps a little utility could be provided here that would: JF> 1) Allow renaming as part of the copying JF> 2) Add an EXIF tag with the original file name JF> 3) [optional] create a database and/or log file entry listing JF> selected EXIF information (user-configurable, of course). JF> Any thoughts? I am afraid I could even program it myself given enough time and money and tools ... John, my point was not to give very specific suggestions, but to illustrate that with the help of MAC (just for you, Cotty ) or PC or PDA more things could be done with the camera. I have a friend who's a professional photog using Nikon F5. He is known as a man who sets up his camera (probably sitting at home with F5 on the table and manual in his hands) before each of his shoots. Then he takes great care to make sure noone clicks any buttons while he is shooting, except him of course... We, simple ME Super and ZX-L users, have no such burden . Boris
Re: Woo-hoo-DOH!
Hi Mark ... Congratulations ... feels nice, doesn't it ;-)) > MC> I finally got my 15 minutes and likened myself to Homer Simpson (DOH! > MC> Slapping forehead..) > > MC> http://www.newhouse.com/archive/sefton010604.html
Re: Woo-hoo-DOH!
Hi! MC> I finally got my 15 minutes and likened myself to Homer Simpson (DOH! MC> Slapping forehead..) MC> http://www.newhouse.com/archive/sefton010604.html MC> - MCC MC> - Excellent news. Don't slap your forehead too hard, will you please . Boris
Re: Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
Hi Paul ... thanks for the atta boy. I really needed that ;-))
Re: Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
Thanks for the kind words, Ann ... If I were the type, I'd be blushing Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Shel, IMHO - Great picture! -- > the best thing I've seen of yours in ages, if not > ever. I love it. > > Rob -- ??? > The fence bar is fine - the whole thing works > perfectly.
Re: "Cloudy" filter
- Original Message - From: "Raimo Korhonen" Subject: Vs: "Cloudy" filter > Check first - for B&W cloudy could mean yellow - makes clouds stand out in B&W. In the context of this thread, a cloudy filter is between a skylight and an 81A filter. Shel would know if there was a yellow filter in that slot. William Robb
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
At 05:28 PM 10/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many combinations now I suppose. Nick. No they haven't. I have one for my MZ-S Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Unsubscribe
When I get my slides back and then scanned! I hate waiting...grrr... Sorry to oust you out of your position. :o) Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe > > Since I am 18, I guess I could call > > myself "young blood". > > Bah, guess I'm not the baby of the group anymore. :) (I'm 32). > > So when are you going to show us some baby pix? > > Amita > >
RE: Unsubscribe
> Since I am 18, I guess I could call > myself "young blood". Bah, guess I'm not the baby of the group anymore. :) (I'm 32). So when are you going to show us some baby pix? Amita
Re: Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > I wanted the horizontal fence bar in the photo ... > it's part of the story I hope the photo tells. > > PS conversion to B&W ... yes, but more than > just desaturation. When I saw the scene I knew > it was a B&W pic ... it was completed in my head > before I even had the camera up to my eye. > > Rob Studdert wrote: > > > Well spotted :-) > > > > What a pity that horizontal fence bar is so obvious. > > > > Did you de-saturate in PS? > > Shel, IMHO - Great picture! -- the best thing I've seen of yours in ages, if not ever. I love it. Rob -- ??? The fence bar is fine - the whole thing works perfectly. I'm glad I hopped on to the list tonight - but I'm really skimming - lots to do. annsan
Re: Pizza Sign
Just checked. No "signs" theme. Wonder what I was thinking about? Oh well, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pizza Sign Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:37:52 -0500 Isn't there a "signs" theme for PUG this year? Have to go check... _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Pizza Sign
Kevin Waterson wrote: > > We all held our breath as Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/nypizza.html > > Nice neon. > Just out of curiosity, What is a New York City style pizza? > > Kind regards > Kevin > > -- Oh you poor lad... New York Style pizza has a thin crust - is made in large rounds and often sold by the slice... a plain on has tomato paste and fresh mozzarella but lots of add ons possible. The very best has a deliciously light crispy dough. Chicago style pizza, equally declious, but diff - is also called "deep dish" and you normally need a knife and fork to eat it. I love them both, but in each case, one has to have the best of the type :) annsan > __ > (_ \ > _) ) > | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) > | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / > |_| \) \_||_| \) \) > Kevin Waterson > Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: Pizza Sign
And how did the place today measure up? Was it good? Cool pic, BTW. Isn't there a "signs" theme for PUG this year? Have to go check... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pizza Sign Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:21:55 -0800 Thin, crispy crust, not overly garnished with a lot of meat and veggies ... _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Pizza Sign
Thin, crispy crust, not overly garnished with a lot of meat and veggies ... shel Kevin Waterson wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/nypizza.html > > Nice neon. > Just out of curiosity, What is a New York City style pizza?
Re: DIY Product table - results
Kevin posted: > I recieved a number of responses to the building of a product table. > I hastily knocked one up and here are the results. Please be aware > this url contains many images and is approximateley 1 Meg in size. > > Any feedback greatfully accepted. > > Kind regards > Kevin > I see no URL.
Re: DIY Product table - results
what url? Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Kevin Waterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:01 PM Subject: DIY Product table - results > I recieved a number of responses to the building of a product table. > I hastily knocked one up and here are the results. Please be aware > this url contains many images and is approximateley 1 Meg in size. > > Any feedback greatfully accepted. > > Kind regards > Kevin > > -- > __ > (_ \ > _) ) > | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) > | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / > |_| \) \_||_| \) \) > Kevin Waterson > Port Macquarie, Australia >
Re: DIY Product table - results
And of course the url is... http://www.oceania.net/light_table/ -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: Pizza Sign
We all held our breath as Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/nypizza.html Nice neon. Just out of curiosity, What is a New York City style pizza? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Bob, Our history here in the US is recent, at least with respect to European settlements. We haven't saved the log cabins as improvement and progress has eradicated them. I only mention the Lincoln's homestead because it was something that somebody thought to preserve and it hadn't been 'improved' before he became a national hero. If you know anything about his origins, you'll recognize that it is nothing special. It's simply an example of how poor people lived in rural Illinois in the early 1800s. More interesting are the archeological digs outside St. Louis in southern Illinois. They document a gathering society living along the Mississippi River, raising crops, trading, and building religious mounds in a city of 30,000 at about 1000AD. Of course, all we have to show for it is post holes and bone shards! Regards, Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not just about the history of great men, like Lincoln. Probably even more important is what you learn about ordinary people and societies. I'm sure archaeologists and public alike would love to have more information about the early settlers, to be able to stand on the same floors where they stood, to see the things they used and built, even when it is only a grubby little post hole and some discoloured dirt. It doesn't have to be a whole log cabin in perfect shape.
DIY Product table - results
I recieved a number of responses to the building of a product table. I hastily knocked one up and here are the results. Please be aware this url contains many images and is approximateley 1 Meg in size. Any feedback greatfully accepted. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Pizza Sign
I stopped into a NYC style pizza place for a lunch time slice, and found that they'd installed this sign: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/nypizza.html Thought I'd share it with you ...
RE: Rain Picture
Hi, Rob, I wasn't talking about the look on her face, which is indeed as you described it. I saw "a look" quite independant of her facial expression. Maybe it's the wrinkles; maybe they just make her look old, and that makes me think she's perhaps had a hard life, and many experiences that would be completely foreign to me. Like I said, just a feeling... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If it were me I'd be confused by the fact that someone was poking a camera in my direction, I guess I'd be sporting a similar expression. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Unsubscribe
Sorry Robert, didn't mean to insult ya guys. However, if you had been following the discussions lately, it seems someone estimated that the average age of people participating in this discussion is 45. Since I am 18, I guess I could call myself "young blood". Pentax is great, too bad not so many people know about it. :o) Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "Robert Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe > Welcome to the list Rebekah. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's > a whole lot of "young blood" in this list. Occasionally, you might > feel like "fresh blood" in the midst of sharks, but its usually not mean > spirited. Folks here are pretty passionate about Photography in general > and Pentax in particular. I'm glad to see the next generation taking up > the torch. > > Rebekah Gonzalez wrote: > > Ok thanks Paul. Actually I just subscribed to the digest instead, and I > > could share my overpowering opinion with anyone, so I was just trying to get > > into the discussion. Seems I've upset everyone already. I have no plans for > > leaving though. I think you guys need some "young blood" on the list here. > > :o) > > Rebekah > > > > > > >
Re: Unsubscribe
Welcome to the list Rebekah. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a whole lot of "young blood" in this list. Occasionally, you might feel like "fresh blood" in the midst of sharks, but its usually not mean spirited. Folks here are pretty passionate about Photography in general and Pentax in particular. I'm glad to see the next generation taking up the torch. Rebekah Gonzalez wrote: Ok thanks Paul. Actually I just subscribed to the digest instead, and I could share my overpowering opinion with anyone, so I was just trying to get into the discussion. Seems I've upset everyone already. I have no plans for leaving though. I think you guys need some "young blood" on the list here. :o) Rebekah
Re: Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
Nice shot. The chain link fence makes it for me. On Jan 11, 2004, at 8:06 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Earlier this afternoon I was out looking for photos when I drove past the Berkeley Senior Center. They had this plywood cutout in the yard, and the moment I saw it I knew that this was worth a QuikSnap. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/senior.html 225K JPEG Comments welcome ... shel
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Hi, > Gotta be practical here. How many of the original buildings, pre-roman era > of wooden construction are standing in London? ...Or anywhere in Britain? We > don't have the original log cabins that were built in out cities either. We do still have a surprising number of pre-Roman wooden things knocking around and resurfacing from time to time, and they all get preserved immediately, as a matter of urgency. In recent years things like Woodhenge have appeared during a low tide; we've found Celtic wooden causeways in marshland, bits of old bridges in the river; grass, leather, bone. All sorts of stuff. You'd be surprised. Far more often all we have left, like you, is post holes, patches of discoloured earth and a few tiles. When we find those we put the movable bits in museums and either rebury the rest for later, or find some way other of preserving it in-situ. In central London all building work has to have the archaeologists in first so the builders don't destroy stuff. If valuable relics are found then the building plans can be changed to enforce the preservation. Many modern buildings in the City have basements open to the public where you can go and look at the finds in situ. It's not just about the history of great men, like Lincoln. Probably even more important is what you learn about ordinary people and societies. I'm sure archaeologists and public alike would love to have more information about the early settlers, to be able to stand on the same floors where they stood, to see the things they used and built, even when it is only a grubby little post hole and some discoloured dirt. It doesn't have to be a whole log cabin in perfect shape. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Here in Victoria, we have quite a few older buildings, but only from about a hundred years ago, because prior to that, the city was a wooden fort. What may keep the historic buildings standing is all the tourism. As Glenn wrote, Canada and the US are pretty young countries, but that's no reason to discard what remains of the past, relatively recent though it may be. Pat White
Re: Woo-hoo-DOH!
Congratulations Homer, er I mean Mark. Seriously your snowflake photos have always blown me away. (As have your birds and insects.) Keep up the good work. Paul On Jan 11, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Mark Cassino wrote: I finally got my 15 minutes and likened myself to Homer Simpson (DOH! Slapping forehead..) http://www.newhouse.com/archive/sefton010604.html - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
I wanted the horizontal fence bar in the photo ... it's part of the story I hope the photo tells. PS conversion to B&W ... yes, but more than just desaturation. When I saw the scene I knew it was a B&W pic ... it was completed in my head before I even had the camera up to my eye. Rob Studdert wrote: > Well spotted :-) > > What a pity that horizontal fence bar is so obvious. > > Did you de-saturate in PS? >
Re: *ist D image noise examples
you have to buy the Pro + version to get it as a plugin. Herb - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: RE: *ist D image noise examples > Hi Paul > I have downloaded the software at: http://www.neatimage.com/download.html > It seems it's not a plugin but a seperate program. > Looking forward to using it.
Re: "Cloudy" filter
the warm film has that type of effect, but whether it is more or less than what the filter does is up to you. Herb - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: Re: "Cloudy" filter > OK, thanks ... so here's the next question: instead of running out to buy a > few cloudy day filters, could similar results be gotten by using a "warm" > film, like Ektachrome GX instead of G.
Re: Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
On 11 Jan 2004 at 17:06, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Earlier this afternoon I was out looking for photos when > I drove past the Berkeley Senior Center. They had this > plywood cutout in the yard, and the moment I saw it I > knew that this was worth a QuikSnap. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/senior.html > > 225K JPEG > > Comments welcome ... Well spotted :-) What a pity that horizontal fence bar is so obvious. Did you de-saturate in PS? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Todays QuikSnap - Senior Center
Earlier this afternoon I was out looking for photos when I drove past the Berkeley Senior Center. They had this plywood cutout in the yard, and the moment I saw it I knew that this was worth a QuikSnap. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/senior.html 225K JPEG Comments welcome ... shel
Re: DSLR future wish-list
On 11 Jan 2004 at 18:26, John Francis wrote: > Where? Actually in the image pixels? If not, then what happens if > you import the image into some editor that drops this information? > If actually in the pixels, do you move it to the correct edge when > the camera is used in portrait mode? Not to mention cropping ... Copyright data could be embedded in the EXIF data (or most preferably IPTC/NAA). The point is that if you put it there and someone uses or edits your image and strips the data then you can always refer to the original document if copyright is being disputed. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Actually, I think the term "alphabet soup" originated in the Great Depression in America, when a lot of government programs were initiated to help people out . Since almost all of them went by an acronym, the common people started calling the government alphabet soup. At least that's what I heard; I'm kind of a history nut. I think that it's interesting, sorry if you don't! Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > How many telegraph operators have you met in the computer room? Yes they used > alphabet soup, but it was a different mix. 73 > > Jostein wrote: > > Why we hang on to the acronyms. > > Laziness I suppose...:-) > > > > Interesting thoughts about Unix. :-) > > I thought the "alphabet soup" had it's origin from morse and ham radio. > > > > Cheers, > > Jostein > > > > - > > Pictures at: http://oksne.net > > - > > - Original Message - > > From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:55 PM > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > > >>Common usage has evolved away from your dictionary definition. > >> > >>By the way (BTW), anyone ever wonder why all these alphabet soup intials > > > > on the > > > >>internet? Well, the old time Unix hackers couldn't tough type so spelling > > > > out > > > >>words was a pain. Bandwidth was very limited, anyone remember 110baud? > > > > And, > > > >>mostly, making things criptic to outsiders seemed cute to those,mostly, > > > > college > > > >>kids. So, that leaves the question, why do we do it? > >> > >>-- > >> > >>frank theriault wrote: > >> > >>>Dear Curmudgeon, > >>> > >>>Of course I could have googled it. I know that! > >>> > >>>But it's ever so much more fun asking on-list, don't you think? > >>> > >>>BTW (and this isn't directed at you, Tom, just at "TLA's" in general), > >>>ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. > >>>They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) > >>>word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. > >>> > >>>Now, I have a feeling that someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But > >>>I'm not. > >>> > >>>cheers, > >>>frank > >>> > >>>"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > >>>pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:53:01 -0500 > > Three Letter Acronym! > > Suggested google search: "internet acronym". > Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". > Mode: "curmudgeonly". > :) > > -- > > >>> > >>>_ > >>>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > >>>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >>> > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>graywolf > >>http://graywolfphoto.com > >> > >>"You might as well accept people as they are, > >>you are not going to be able to change them anyway." > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com > > "You might as well accept people as they are, > you are not going to be able to change them anyway." > > >
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Bob, Gotta be practical here. How many of the original buildings, pre-roman era of wooden construction are standing in London? ...Or anywhere in Britain? We don't have the original log cabins that were built in out cities either. Abraham Lincoln's family's homestead is still preserved in rural Illinois, log cabins and all. But this is a special case as he was famous in time to save the homestead. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotes & writes: > Folks here were clearing land for subsistence farming. Construction was > primitive. There is very little worth saving. I would think that's exactly the kind of thing that *is* worth saving. That kind of primitive construction is exactly the equivalent of the post holes and similar relics being excavated at L'Anse aux Meadows. The difference is that those Viking settlers (if they were settlers) are just a curious footnote in history and had no lasting impact on aboriginal American culture or on European culture. Given the impact Vikings had in other areas they settled - modern Russia, Ireland and Britain for example - they could have become well established in North America. In that case you would, presumably, have described sites like L'Anse aux Meadows as primitive and hardly worth saving.
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
How many telegraph operators have you met in the computer room? Yes they used alphabet soup, but it was a different mix. 73 Jostein wrote: Why we hang on to the acronyms. Laziness I suppose...:-) Interesting thoughts about Unix. :-) I thought the "alphabet soup" had it's origin from morse and ham radio. Cheers, Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:55 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Common usage has evolved away from your dictionary definition. By the way (BTW), anyone ever wonder why all these alphabet soup intials on the internet? Well, the old time Unix hackers couldn't tough type so spelling out words was a pain. Bandwidth was very limited, anyone remember 110baud? And, mostly, making things criptic to outsiders seemed cute to those,mostly, college kids. So, that leaves the question, why do we do it? -- frank theriault wrote: Dear Curmudgeon, Of course I could have googled it. I know that! But it's ever so much more fun asking on-list, don't you think? BTW (and this isn't directed at you, Tom, just at "TLA's" in general), ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. Now, I have a feeling that someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But I'm not. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:53:01 -0500 Three Letter Acronym! Suggested google search: "internet acronym". Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". Mode: "curmudgeonly". :) -- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Thanks for the information. We are new to the list and trying to learn more about our favorite Pentax stuff. Have several hundred bodies, lenses, flashes, and accessories collected over past 40 years, and just 2-3 years of looking back. - Original Message - From: "Paul Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:24 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > There are, however, two versions of the K50/1.2 and on the later version > the lens information on the front ring has been been changed to match > the style of the M lenses. The old one had "SMC PENTAX 1:1.2/50" while > the newer one has "smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm" in a different typeface. So it > looks like an M lens but it is just the old K lens in drag. > > Paul Ewins > Melbourne, Australia > > -Original Message- > From: Hal & Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks for the correction. My 50/1.2 is K. > - Original Message - > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There is no M 50mm f/1.2. > > There is a K version, which is highly regarded, and an A version, > which is > > quite nice. > > > >
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Hi, > Folks here were clearing land for > subsistence farming. Construction was primitive. There is very little worth > saving. I would think that's exactly the kind of thing that *is* worth saving. That kind of primitive construction is exactly the equivalent of the post holes and similar relics being excavated at L'Anse aux Meadows. The difference is that those Viking settlers (if they were settlers) are just a curious footnote in history and had no lasting impact on aboriginal American culture or on European culture. Given the impact Vikings had in other areas they settled - modern Russia, Ireland and Britain for example - they could have become well established in North America. In that case you would, presumably, have described sites like L'Anse aux Meadows as primitive and hardly worth saving. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
A pub I frequent is the King and Tinker in Enfield which dates from around 1050 and is still in use. Quite picturesque - I'll try to post a picture sometime. Nick.
Re: Woo-hoo-DOH!
That's excellent Mark... congrats! I specifically like the term "fellow snowflake artists" :-) Regards, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: Woo-hoo-DOH! > I finally got my 15 minutes and likened myself to Homer Simpson (DOH! > Slapping forehead..) > > http://www.newhouse.com/archive/sefton010604.html > > > - MCC > - > > Mark Cassino Photography > > Kalamazoo, MI > > http://www.markcassino.com > > - > > >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:22:55 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > No, it's not an abbreviation. An abbreviation is when a word is > used with one or more letters missing from it, such as bkfst for > breakfast. Not according to AH3: abúbreúviúaútion P Pronunciation Key (-brv-shn) n. 1. The act or product of shortening. 2. A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps. 3. Mus. Any of various symbols used in notation to indicate that a series of notes is to be repeated. dictionary.com omits the last one. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: Triumphs
People discovered BMW Boxer m/bikes that handled well and didn't leak oil. > C R K My R80/7 had a most wonderful speed wobble. I thought they had that fixed by the /7's. I remember the first time I hit 95 mph on my R60/5 I started wobbling fairly violently side to side. I slowed down immediately. I later found out they were noted for the high speed wobble due to the wheelbase being too short and too steep of a neck rake. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Pat, I understand about the "Three Horseshoes" pub, but 560 years is still older than anything we have here in North America. I live in the so called 'midwest' near Chicago, 1000 miles from the cities on the Atlantic coast (and 2000 miles from the Pacific coast). Isn't it 1000 miles from Moscow to London? Point is, in 1831 we had Indian wars when Chief Blackhawk lead an uprising in Illinois. Abraham Lincoln was a Captain in the militia during the war. We were the frontier here only 200 years ago. Folks here were clearing land for subsistence farming. Construction was primitive. There is very little worth saving. And then Chicago had a fire in the 1871. In many ways, this was similar to London's great fire of 1666, but 200 years later. Regards, Bob S. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not completely innumerate. The 560-year figure referred to the "Three Horseshoes" pub that Malcolm Smith mentioned. I agree that not every old building ought to be preserved. However, while growing up in Quebec City, it was a pleasure to see and go into the many buildings dating from the 1700s and 1800s that are still in daily use.
Re: Re[2]: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
On 11 Jan 2004 at 10:20, Bruce Dayton wrote: > I wouldn't be surprised to see 67 have a stronger presence than 645 a > few years down the road. > > This is not just a Pentax issue. I predict that 67 and larger will do > better than 645/66 in the film arena. The 645 that survives will be > digital with better resolution than full frame 35mm. Hey, you've stolen my prediction :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *ist D image noise examples
On 11 Jan 2004 at 9:19, Christian Skofteland wrote: > Was noise reduction turned on? Yes I have NR "turned-on" however it's of little consequence in this particular test as it is designed to eliminate sensor noise errors that appear during long exposures. It isn't designed to filter regular sensor noise as can be found at high ISOs during short exposures. > As has been commented in various tests by websites and magazines, the ist-D > seems very usable at ISO 800. It's still pretty usable at 1600 is you ask me, the areas that are well illuminated show very little noise for the size of the image and shadow noise could be pretty easily masked in post processing. Colour shift is negligible too. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: *ist D image noise examples
Hi Paul I have downloaded the software at: http://www.neatimage.com/download.html It seems it's not a plugin but a seperate program. Looking forward to using it. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. januar 2004 21:51 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: *ist D image noise examples Hi Jens, Here is a comparison of the noise levels on my 10d. http://www.nrg666.com/10d/noise/ I put one up filtered with Neat Image, the results are a bit rough though and could be refined more. Regards, Paul Jens Bladt wrote: > Hi Rob > Isn't this noise problem regarded one of the *ist draw backs compared to the > competition? High noise levels at high ISO values? > It would be nice to se a similar test done with Canon 10D and Nikon D100. > All the best > Jens > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 11. januar 2004 08:19 > Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Emne: *ist D image noise examples > > > For those listers who might be teetering over the purchase of a *ist D I've > just put up a page that illustrates the image noise generated by a Pentax > *ist > D at each available EI given a wide contrast scene. It's about 850kB. > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/Pentax_ist_D_noise/ > > Comments welcomed as always. > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Oooo, good one, Anders! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Anders Hultman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, so TLA isn't really a three letter acronym, then. But it is a three letter abbreviation. So, there :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
frank theriault: ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. Ok, so TLA isn't really a three letter acronym, then. But it is a three letter abbreviation. So, there :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
RE: *ist D image noise examples
Hi Paul This is very impressive. I will try to get this plugin (for Photoshop, right) as soon as possible. Thanks a lot. Jens Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. januar 2004 21:51 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: *ist D image noise examples Hi Jens, Here is a comparison of the noise levels on my 10d. http://www.nrg666.com/10d/noise/ I put one up filtered with Neat Image, the results are a bit rough though and could be refined more. Regards, Paul Jens Bladt wrote: > Hi Rob > Isn't this noise problem regarded one of the *ist draw backs compared to the > competition? High noise levels at high ISO values? > It would be nice to se a similar test done with Canon 10D and Nikon D100. > All the best > Jens > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 11. januar 2004 08:19 > Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Emne: *ist D image noise examples > > > For those listers who might be teetering over the purchase of a *ist D I've > just put up a page that illustrates the image noise generated by a Pentax > *ist > D at each available EI given a wide contrast scene. It's about 850kB. > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/Pentax_ist_D_noise/ > > Comments welcomed as always. > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
frank theriault: Three Letter Acronym! Which would mean that "TLA" is actually a TLA. How ironic! However, ETLA (extended three letter acronym) is not a TLA :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Dear Curmudgeon, Of course I could have googled it. I know that! But it's ever so much more fun asking on-list, don't you think? BTW (and this isn't directed at you, Tom, just at "TLA's" in general), ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. Now, I have a feeling that someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But I'm not. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:53:01 -0500 Three Letter Acronym! Suggested google search: "internet acronym". Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". Mode: "curmudgeonly". :) -- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
What? And filter out The Voice of Reason? Perish the thought!! :-) -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just filter me out, Frank. "Where FROM: includes 'knarf', delete". That is why I never saw your post below . -- _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Which would mean that "TLA" is actually a TLA. How ironic! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Three Letter Acronym! _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: *ist D image noise examples
Hi Jens, Here is a comparison of the noise levels on my 10d. http://www.nrg666.com/10d/noise/ I put one up filtered with Neat Image, the results are a bit rough though and could be refined more. Regards, Paul Jens Bladt wrote: Hi Rob Isn't this noise problem regarded one of the *ist draw backs compared to the competition? High noise levels at high ISO values? It would be nice to se a similar test done with Canon 10D and Nikon D100. All the best Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. januar 2004 08:19 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: *ist D image noise examples For those listers who might be teetering over the purchase of a *ist D I've just put up a page that illustrates the image noise generated by a Pentax *ist D at each available EI given a wide contrast scene. It's about 850kB. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/Pentax_ist_D_noise/ Comments welcomed as always. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Unusual subjects to photograph.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmm. That brings up another point -- not all buildings that > ought to have been preserved are lost to "progress". > Especially in the US, an awful lot of historical buildings > were made of wood, less durable than stone. It's still > tragic to lose history, even when we can't blame greed for it. Indeed, and bringing this back to photography, at least we can do our best to record their existence this way. Malcolm
RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.
William Robb wrote: > We have a lot of excess land here that can be used as parking > lots that you > in the UK just don't have. True. > Not that we should be turning excess land into parking lots, mind you. Well said. Malcolm
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These are fairly specific films for different purposes. Fuji Reala 100 represents the most general purpose film. Very low grain, good saturation and not too high of contrast. Agfa Ultra 100 - High contrast, high saturation - for when the light is low contrast and you still want strong colors. Konica Impressa 50 - good saturation, low contrast, very fine grained. A good companion film to the Agfa Ultra 100. Best use is when the light is medium to high contrast. Agfa Optima II 100 - Good saturation, medium contrast, does particulary well with reds/browns - film of choice for the red rock country of southern Utah (Bryce, Zions, Canyonlands, etc) Fuji NPS, NPH, NPZ - great people/portrait films. Accurate skin tones and lower contrast to handle extremes in clothing (white dress/black tux) Ilford Delta 3200 - great for low light. My lab does a pretty good job with this one. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, January 11, 2004, 11:25:39 AM, you wrote: RG> Cool, that sure is a lot of different kinds. RG> So, are these just what you will buy according to what's on hand, or do you RG> have a specific purpose for each of these, for instance, fuji for landscape RG> photos because of its blue and green saturation, stuff like that? RG> Rebekah RG> "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." RG> - Original Message - RG> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RG> To: "Rebekah Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RG> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:26 AM RG> Subject: Re[2]: Hi there >> Hello Rebekah, >> >> Looking forward to it. As to films that I like, well, Agfa Ultra 100, >> Agfa Optima II 100, Fuji Reala 100, Konica Impressa 50, Fuji NPS 160, >> Fuji NPH 400, Fuji NPZ 800, Ilford Delta 3200 B&W... >> >> How's that for starters? >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >> >> >> >> Saturday, January 10, 2004, 6:33:13 PM, you wrote: >> >> RG> My dad gave me a pentax P30 t. It's great, and as soon as I get my RG> pictures >> RG> back, I plan to scan them and overwhelm you guys with endless pictures RG> of my >> RG> son! >> RG> What's your favorite type of film? >> RG> Rebekah >> RG> "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." >> >> RG> - Original Message - >> RG> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> RG> To: "Rebekah Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> RG> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:15 PM >> RG> Subject: Re: Hi there >> >> >> >> Hello Rebekah, >> >> >> >> Welcome to the PDML. So what did your dad pass on to you? Hope to >> >> see you submit to the PUG gallery. >> >> >> >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saturday, January 10, 2004, 5:44:11 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> RG> Hi, my name is Rebekah, I recently received my Dad's "old" Pentax, >> RG> though it >> >> RG> is in great condition. He just got the digital. I like your >> RG> discussions, >> >> RG> sounds like fun, so maybe you guys could give me your opinion on >> RG> Kodak's >> >> RG> Elite Chrome, does it compare to Koda Chrome? >> >> RG> Rebekah >> >> >> >> RG> "A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Vs: "Cloudy" filter
Check first - for B&W cloudy could mean yellow - makes clouds stand out in B&W. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 11. tammikuuta 2004 19:11 Aihe: Re: "Cloudy" filter >OK, thanks ... so here's the next question: instead of running out to buy a >few cloudy day filters, could similar results be gotten by using a "warm" >film, like Ektachrome GX instead of G. > >"Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > >> Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> > >> > The K18/3.5 has a few built-in filters, as i imagine a few other lenses >> > have as well. One is a "cloudy" filter. OK, I'm ignorant: what does a >> > cloudy filter do? >> >> probably a warming filter, like a skylight 1B >> or an 81 series >> >> >
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Pat White wrote: > Classic buildings, though, shouldn't be as disposable as that. Destroying > old buildings is like destroying local history. I agree in general, but not as a hard-and-fast rule. It's a shame to see history destroyed. At the same time, I don't think we need to preserve every single shack and shop for eternity. But I do wince each time one of these classic Baltimore rowhouses is torn down because fire or simple deterioration from lack of maintenance has made it too hazardous to leave standing. Hmm. That brings up another point -- not all buildings that ought to have been preserved are lost to "progress". Especially in the US, an awful lot of historical buildings were made of wood, less durable than stone. It's still tragic to lose history, even when we can't blame greed for it. > Maybe that's why many North > Americans have little sense of history. The older buildings are continually > being replaced, so history is something you see in a book, not something you > walk by on the way to work, or a place where you meet your friends. I think a large part of it is that we're just such a young nation. As countries go, we're sort of adolescent. But thinking about it, where we do have historic buildings they're usually museums or offices of local government, not places people hang out. The exceptions that come to mind are all shools. Unless you count simple homes that happen to be "old" (for some value of "old"); in high school I had friends who kept having to chase tourists out of their living rooms because folks would wander into the "charmingly preserved historical building" assuming it had to be a museum or similar attraction. > I'd be > surprised if there are _any_ buildings in North America as old as 560 years > that were built by the Europeans and their descendants. If there are, the place to look would be St. Mary's, Maryland. IIRC, that's the oldest continuously inhabited European-established settlement on the continent. But I'm not sure whether any of the original buildings were preserved. Anyplace else you'd want to look, "560 years" is kind of pointless. > (The ancient > pueblos and Mayan ruins aren't in cities, in daily use, like old buildings > in Europe are.) *nod* Which makes their age kind of ... abstract, in a way. They're these preserved artifacts, as opposed to being a _connection_ to a distant past. All of this really just serves as explanation for the classic joke about the difference between Americans and Europeans. (One things a hundred miles is a long distance. The other thinks a hundred years is a long time. I first heard it from someone whose family had an apartment in a building a few hundred years old in Vienna, who pointed out that in that city, that building wasn't considered "old".) -- Glenn
Flare
One of the cameras recently given to me by a friend is a Konica FT-1, in which I've never seen the viewfinder LEDs act as described in the manual, so I figured I'd better shoot a test roll to see whether the auto exposure (shutter priority) is actually doing anything halfway sane despite the odd display. Since today in Baltimore is a bitterbright morning (significantly below freezing, clear, sunny, bright) and I'm up early enough to catch the smokestack from the recycling plant partially backlit, I was shooting not quite into the sun but definitely eastward. If there's anything to make one really notice the difference between different brands of lenses ... I had flare that just looked flarey, I had flare that showed colour banding, and when I tried to get a picture of Perrine in front of the window, I got uniform flare across the entire frame that made the *viewfinder* look like underexposed Fuji Super HQ 1600 -- the old version. (To be fair, these were third-party, not Konica, lenses. Not even familiar brands.) Makes me apreciate Pentax (and even other name-brand) lens coatings. Now I'm trying to decide whether I have enough energy and enthusiasm to go out in that freezing bright morning and stomp around the Inner Harbor with the K1000 before breakfast. I dunno ... I got tired of my fingers being cold in the recording studio yesterday. -- Glenn
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Bob W pointed out: > > I'd be > > surprised if there are _any_ buildings in North America as old as 560 years > > that were built by the Europeans and their descendants. > > 2004 - 560 = 1444, so it would certainly upset a few ideas. Bah. Not awake enough to do math properly. When I wrote my own reply, I somehow used 460 instead of 460, and remembered that St. Mary's was settled in the 1500s but couldn't remember how late in the 1500s. Yeah, 1400s just doesn't happen, unless there's an intact Viking structure at L'Anse aux Meadows, but I'm pretty sure what folks found there was evidence much smaller than a building. -- Glenn
RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.
> The National Trust is a charitable organisation who rely on > property being 'given' to them, generally of outstanding > national historic interest, most of which come with a > substantial amount of land, which they can open to visitors > to help offset the maintenance costs. I can't think of any > organisation that would take it on other than as a gift, with > someone else paying all the re-location costs. Ah. What a shame. > > > Numbers of pubs have also reduced dramatically in London as > > a whole, > > > many are now fast food outlets. > > > > No! Stick a knife in my heart, why don't you? :P > > No, Amita, not all of them.some of them have been > re-developed for housing.that's not really helped, has it ? . I guess that's not so bad. It's just that the thought of all those charming old pubs being converted to McDonald's made me gag. ;)
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"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Rebekah Gonzalez" > >> No! No digital songs! I don't think digital compares with film, yet >> anyways. >> Of course, for Kodachrome, there's always Ebay. > >Until they discontinue it anyway. >Expect that to happen within the next couple of years. Two years? Sounds about right. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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- Original Message - From: "Rebekah Gonzalez" Subject: Re: Unsubscribe > Dude, cheer up. :o) Ya Doug, stop being such a sour puss. I mean just because it's your list and all, WW
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- Original Message - From: "Rebekah Gonzalez" Subject: Re: Unsubscribe > No! No digital songs! I don't think digital compares with film, yet anyways. > Of course, for Kodachrome, there's always Ebay. Until they discontinue it anyway. Expect that to happen within the next couple of years. William Robb
Re: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.
- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph. > > I would like to see parking areas reduced, thus > destroying less land, but for the point you make above, it's never going to > happen. > We have a lot of excess land here that can be used as parking lots that you in the UK just don't have. Not that we should be turning excess land into parking lots, mind you. William Robb
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
- Original Message - From: "Hal & Sandra Davis" Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > If you are looking for A1 prime lenses, suggest starting with 50mm f1:1.2 M > or A. Price was always a deterent for me, bought an LX outfit on eBay, and > was surprised to see the lens in the bag when the kit arrived(a bonus). It > certainly is worth the price. There is no M 50mm f/1.2. There is a K version, which is highly regarded, and an A version, which is quite nice. William Robb
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Dude, cheer up. :o) Rebekah "A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe > Yeah, insulting everyone is always a good way to start off. > > > On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 09:13 PM, Rebekah Gonzalez wrote: > > > Ok thanks Paul. Actually I just subscribed to the digest instead, and I > > could share my overpowering opinion with anyone, so I was just trying > > to get > > into the discussion. Seems I've upset everyone already. I have no > > plans for > > leaving though. I think you guys need some "young blood" on the list > > here. > > :o) > > Rebekah > > > >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
If you are looking for A1 prime lenses, suggest starting with 50mm f1:1.2 M or A. Price was always a deterent for me, bought an LX outfit on eBay, and was surprised to see the lens in the bag when the kit arrived(a bonus). It certainly is worth the price. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > I use an MX's and LX's, and a range of K-mount lenses from 18.mm to > 200mm. > Which 50/1.4 do you have? > > I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped > down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my > taste. Much prefer the smaller size of the K35/3.5. If you can find > one, the K30/2.8 is a great compromise between size and weight and > aperture, and, IMO, a better lens all around than the K35/2.0 ... since > I've gotten the 30mm I rarely use the 28 or either of the 35's. > > The K24/2.8 is another fine lens, although methinks it's a bit wide for > good "street photography," but I guess that depends on your definition of > the practice and your shooting style. > > I've had numerous 85mm lenses and settled on the K85/1.8 for its size, > sharpness, speed, and weight. I loved the M85/2.0, and I'd have it yet > had not a lady friend talked me out of it ... damn! > However, as much as I liked the lens (it's nice and small and more than > adequate in sharpness) the K85/1.8 was the lens I almost always reached > for. > > If you get an 85mm, you might want to make the jump to the K120/2.8. > It's a very nice lens, yes siree!, and while it has a similar optical > formula to the K105/2.8 (which I've loved since the 1960's version in > Super Takumar screw mount format), I think the bokeh is a little better, > perhaps because of the longer focal length. > > A good all-around kit for street photography might be the 30mm, 50mm, > 85mm, and the 120mm. Those are ny choices, anyway. > > Well, welcome to the list ... have phun. > > Pentax wrote: > > > I've got an MX. Mostly I'm interested in just seeing what people have > > to say about lenses. I've found some lens review sites around on the > > web and many of them are compilations of comments from this list so I > > figured I'd go right to the source and see what was going on. > > > > Just started shooting with the MX again after a year of shooting > > exclusively with a Rolleicord V and wanted to get a coupla lenses to > > compliment the 50/1.4. Probably something shorter and something > > longer with the same build quality and a similiar look and feel to > > photos (good bokeh, mostly shooting at or near wide open). Something > > that goes well with Tri-X for handheld, available light, street and > > travel photography. Maybe the 24/2.8 and one of the 85's or 100's. > > Three seems like the perfect number. Can bring them all without much > > overlap. Though the K 35/2 is also appealing... > >
Re: Hi there
Israel is rainy? Somehow I kinda got the idea it was dry - is the rain a seasonal thing? What part of Israel are in? Thanks for the welcome. Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rebekah Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Hi there > Hi! > > RG> Hi, my name is Rebekah, I recently received my Dad's "old" Pentax, though it > RG> is in great condition. He just got the digital. I like your discussions, > RG> sounds like fun, so maybe you guys could give me your opinion on Kodak's > RG> Elite Chrome, does it compare to Koda Chrome? > RG> Rebekah > > RG> "A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." > > Welcome, be greeted from rainy Israel ... > > I cannot help you with Chromes but endless wisdom of PDML surely will. > > Boris > >
Re: Hi there
Thanks! - Original Message - From: "Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:33 PM Subject: Re: Hi there > Rebekah Gonzalez asked: "...maybe you guys could give me your opinion on > Kodak's > Elite Chrome, does it compare to Koda Chrome?" > > Kodachrome used to have superior color reproduction and grain but I believe > that Ektachrome has closed the gap. Ektachrome used to be prone to fading > but that problem has been minimized too. > > There are numerous discussions of slide films on the web. Here are a few > that you'll probably find interesting: > > http://www.photographic.com/film/159/index2.html > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/v01/msg08777.html > > http://www.phototechmag.com/buying_slides.htm > > http://www.photographic.com/film/143/ > > If you go to Google.com and search for Kodachrome vs Ektachrome you'll find > more information than you could ever read. I suggest that you try them both > and choose what you prefer. My personal preference is Elite Chrome Extra > Color. It's the consumer film equivalent of the E100 VS Professional > Ektachrome. > > Congratulations on your new (to you) Pentax and welcome to the PDML. > > Tom Reese > >
Re: Unsubscribe
No! No digital songs! I don't think digital compares with film, yet anyways. Of course, for Kodachrome, there's always Ebay. Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe > To refresh the old memory I've got some old Kodachromes of that day ... > > They give us those nice bright colors > They give us the greens of summers > Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, Oh yeah > I got a Pentax camera > I love to take a photograph > So mama don't take my Kodachrome away > > Will there ever be songs about "digital capture" or CF cards > or EXIF code - Mama's already taking the Kodachrome away > > > frank theriault wrote: > > > Shel, > > > > If you have any memory left, you can't be ~that~ old! > > > > >shel (who remembers when they invented the pencil) > > >
Re: Re[2]: Hi there
Cool, that sure is a lot of different kinds. So, are these just what you will buy according to what's on hand, or do you have a specific purpose for each of these, for instance, fuji for landscape photos because of its blue and green saturation, stuff like that? Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rebekah Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:26 AM Subject: Re[2]: Hi there > Hello Rebekah, > > Looking forward to it. As to films that I like, well, Agfa Ultra 100, > Agfa Optima II 100, Fuji Reala 100, Konica Impressa 50, Fuji NPS 160, > Fuji NPH 400, Fuji NPZ 800, Ilford Delta 3200 B&W... > > How's that for starters? > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > > Saturday, January 10, 2004, 6:33:13 PM, you wrote: > > RG> My dad gave me a pentax P30 t. It's great, and as soon as I get my pictures > RG> back, I plan to scan them and overwhelm you guys with endless pictures of my > RG> son! > RG> What's your favorite type of film? > RG> Rebekah > RG> "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." > > RG> - Original Message - > RG> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > RG> To: "Rebekah Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > RG> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:15 PM > RG> Subject: Re: Hi there > > > >> Hello Rebekah, > >> > >> Welcome to the PDML. So what did your dad pass on to you? Hope to > >> see you submit to the PUG gallery. > >> > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturday, January 10, 2004, 5:44:11 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> RG> Hi, my name is Rebekah, I recently received my Dad's "old" Pentax, > RG> though it > >> RG> is in great condition. He just got the digital. I like your > RG> discussions, > >> RG> sounds like fun, so maybe you guys could give me your opinion on > RG> Kodak's > >> RG> Elite Chrome, does it compare to Koda Chrome? > >> RG> Rebekah > >> > >> RG> "A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >
RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Amita Guha wrote: > > Government won't pay. People will argue about the funding and never > > agree on a suitable re-location. > > What about an organization like the National Trust stepping in? The National Trust is a charitable organisation who rely on property being 'given' to them, generally of outstanding national historic interest, most of which come with a substantial amount of land, which they can open to visitors to help offset the maintenance costs. I can't think of any organisation that would take it on other than as a gift, with someone else paying all the re-location costs. > > Numbers of pubs have also reduced dramatically in London as > a whole, > > many are now fast food outlets. > > No! Stick a knife in my heart, why don't you? :P No, Amita, not all of them.some of them have been re-developed for housing.that's not really helped, has it ? . Malcolm
RE: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Bill Owens wrote: > Here in the USA, airport parking lots are an airport's > largest source of income. Here in the UK, particularly airports like Gatwick, Heathrow and Stanstead have astonishingly good bus, coach and rail links (and Underground to central London in the case of Heathrow) and unless you live a good distance, have a disability or perhaps a big family, there is little reason to take a car. Of course many people like to distance themselves from public transport for a variety of reasons and take a car, which needs a parking space; if they don't have a good reason not to use public transport they should be stuffed on parking fees. I would like to see parking areas reduced, thus destroying less land, but for the point you make above, it's never going to happen. Malcolm
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Probably, although an ERC came with my first SLR, a Ricoh XR1, and as most people seemed to be using one on those days I assumed they came with all. They're great for when you want to go out with just the camera and one lens, and provide protection against the elements and knocks. I have one for the MX with two different front parts, one that snugly fits the 40mm pancake, and one that fits the 50mm f1.7 M or the 28mm f2.8 M. I also have one for the MZ-S with two front sections, one that 'fits' the 43mm f1.9 ltd or my 19mm f3.5 Vivitar, and one that 'fits' the 24-90mm or the 90mm Tamron macro. These don't fit anywhere near as well as the MX one though. Nick. -Original Message- From: "graywolf"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 11/01/04 17:43:26 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Humm? Didn't come with my MX's that I bought new in '78 & '81. Didn't come with my H3 that I bought new in '61. Maybe you mean, "were available for"? -- >> From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to >> come with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Hi, > Is the M35/2 a pretty fast focusing lens? > Just wondering how it would be for a street lens where you want to > focus quickly. Some lens seem to "snap" into focus more quickly than > others. Although I'm sure it's pretty subjective. yes. It's a good lens for it. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Have the SFXn with ERC, and the back accomodates the data back on the camera. With the front cover removed, this setup makes a very comfortable handfull. - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > Pentax still makes NRCs (Never Ready Cases) for the MZ-series, but I'm not > sure about the *ist. As Frank points out, I imagine leaving room to view > the screen and dials on the back could be tricky. The problem with NRCs > for most modern cameras isn't their unusual shapes, though... it's the > fact that today's plastic bodies need more padding than the older metal > bodies. It's tough plastic, but not that tough. > > chris > > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, frank theriault wrote: > > > I think that "modern" cameras wouldn't work well with "ERC's". Their bodies > > are have irregular shapes. Not like slab-sided Spotties and the like. > > Besides, with all the control surfaces sticking out from every surface of > > the bodies these days, designing a workable one that would not destroy the > > usability of those interfaces would be near impossible. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:09:39 - > > > > > >Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too > > >many combinations now I suppose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > > >
Re: Re[2]: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is not just a Pentax issue. I predict that 67 and larger will do > better than 645/66 in the film arena. The 645 that survives will be > digital with better resolution than full frame 35mm. That seems to be what Hasselblad is thinking too, with their new H1 camera. Cheers, Jostein
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Yeah, I agree. I tried a M50 1.7 on the *istD (which acts like a 75) and it's a very small lens. That makes a very small "walk around" package without the grip. A slow "60" just isn't much use. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/04 09:07PM >>> On 10 Jan 2004 at 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Just think what a nice package the 40mm pancake lens and the tiny *istD > would make. I suspect it wouldn't be particularly enamouring from an optical perspective. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re[2]: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
Seems to me that DSLR's are making a serious inroad to the 645/66 area. A significant portion of the users of those systems shoot weddings and portraits. Digital works quite well there. Those who are shooting landscape/scenics might opt for a bigger format - either 67, 69 or 4X5. I wouldn't be surprised to see 67 have a stronger presence than 645 a few years down the road. This is not just a Pentax issue. I predict that 67 and larger will do better than 645/66 in the film arena. The 645 that survives will be digital with better resolution than full frame 35mm. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, January 11, 2004, 2:34:07 AM, you wrote: J> - Original Message - J> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> I'd call it a desperate attempt to perpetuate the 645 format. J> Hmm. J> You really think the 6x45 is a dying format as such? J> jostein
Re: Hi there
Oops. Please ignore my other post. My chart tells me the P30t dates to 1990. So much for that Spotmatic crack . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/04 09:33PM >>> My dad gave me a pentax P30 t. It's great, and as soon as I get my pictures back, I plan to scan them and overwhelm you guys with endless pictures of my son! What's your favorite type of film? Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." -
RE: Unsubscribe
Welcome. What is the "old" Pentax? Spotmatic, MX, etc.? We old guys like to reminisce . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Re[2]: Hi there
Yes! Just like the law requiring toy guns to be orange. A month later some criminal mastermind shoots a cop with a real gun he had painted orange. The "pass a law" types forget that the bad guys, by definition, do not obey those laws. -- Frits Wüthrich wrote: I think we should preserve S for spam, and require all spammers to start the subject line with S: I am convinced the spam problem will then be resolved around the globe. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Three Letter Acronym! Suggested google search: "internet acronym". Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". Mode: "curmudgeonly". :) -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Frank, This morning I removed the ERC from my LX to see if it needed a CLA, but because it's had TLC only the VF was of concern. Still don't know what a TLA is ... Typical [...] Acronym? frank theriault wrote: What's TLA? -frank, the internet illiterate "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. Nick _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
At 8:57 PM -0500 1/9/04, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree with your assessment of the K35/2.0. On the other hand, the M35/2.0 is a very nice lens and is quite compact. It's one of my most frequently used lenses. Is the M35/2 a pretty fast focusing lens? Just wondering how it would be for a street lens where you want to focus quickly. Some lens seem to "snap" into focus more quickly than others. Although I'm sure it's pretty subjective. Thanks for the info. Rob
RE: Some more photos from work
Great shots, Cory! thanks, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Some more photos from work Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:20:25 -0500 Here are some shots I took last night (still awake but it *was* last night) at work. I dare say, I DO have some interesting clients ;) http://community.webshots.com/album/110437403puIOyr BTW, They were taken with the *ist D and my Sigma 70-300, mostly between 200 & 300mm, handheld, 1600, ***Jpeg, mostly between 125 and 280th, and no worthwhile cars were damaged during the course of the event. Trucks, well, that's a different story. Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: Rain Picture
I haven't had much chance to look at PDML over the last few days, so this one sat unopened in my "in box". I got a nice surprise when I opened it. Thanks, Shel. Lovely shot. I love the expression on her face. Who knows what reality is, but she seems to have a look of wisdom about her. I imagine that she'd be great to great to sit down and have coffee or tea with; she'd have some great life stories to tell. Like I said, I've no idea if my thoughts have much to do with reality, but those things are what I thought and felt when I looked at your photo. thanks, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rain Picture Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:43:01 -0800 Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Shel, IIRC, and AFAIK, a CLA for an LX is PIA. TTFN, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:49:47 -0800 Frank, This morning I removed the ERC from my LX to see if it needed a CLA, but because it's had TLC only the VF was of concern. Still don't know what a TLA is ... Typical [...] Acronym? frank theriault wrote: > What's TLA? > > -frank, the internet illiterate > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > >From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come > >with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. > > > >Nick > > > > > > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Frank, This morning I removed the ERC from my LX to see if it needed a CLA, but because it's had TLC only the VF was of concern. Still don't know what a TLA is ... Typical [...] Acronym? frank theriault wrote: > What's TLA? > > -frank, the internet illiterate > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > >From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come > >with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. > > > >Nick > > > > > > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: My M42 equipment
Well, at least your Leicas are screwmount, eh Paul? Still, it's kind of a passing of an era. I'm guessing m42 was your entry into Pentax. Wish I could afford some of that nice glass (the 85mm sounds so yummy - I've been yearning for a portrait lens), but alas, whenever I have money to spend on equipment, it inevitable goes to that new-fangled bayonet-mount stuff. I hope you find good homes for your stuff, Paul. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: My M42 equipment Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:40:21 -0500 The K mount compatibility won me over. And the res-up software that's now available. From what I've read I can now shoot with a 6 megapixel camera and res up to 40 meg files with very good image quality. And even if it doesn't work out, I can use the digital for personal photography. I don't snoot anything with my screw mount cameras these day, so I'll only miss the looking and fondling. Yeah, I will miss that, but I have to be practical. I'll keep all my K and M lenses as well as my LX and MX. And of course I'll keep all my 6x7 kit. I'll still shoot a lot of 6x7 film. At least until I'm convinced I can equal it in digital. But I have to look at the time savings that I can achieve in digital. Even if I lose a bit in quality, I can crank the work out for commercial projects. Then if the mood suits me, I can take out the LX for personal photography. Or one of my Barmacl Leicas. I haven't been completely reformed :--) Paul On Jan 10, 2004, at 7:56 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote: Wow, This is a big upheaval for you, Paul! Giving up your screwmount stuff, buying Pentax digital, and buying new. What prompted this? -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 10, 2004 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:FS: My M42 equipment I didn't think I was holding back just because of the K incompatibility, but I guess I was. I'm going to buy an *istD and perhaps one autofocus zoom. (I've also learned from some local Canon digital pros that I can get great 40 meg files with res-up software or RAW conversion -- if and when PhotoShop adds Pentax digital to the list.) In any case, I will be selling some of my screw mount cameras and lenses. If you want something, give me a shout. Add ten dollars shipping on all items to US buyers. International shipping will be actual cost. They go on ebay Monday night. Pentax Spotmatic Motor Drive with smc takumar 55/1.8, voltmeter, battery handle and fresh battery. I have the charger as well, but it doesn't seem to work. I charge the battery with a 12 volt trickle charger (not included). The camera is cosmetically very nice (KEH excellent), and it works quite well. I'll take $350 now plus shipping. Pentax H3v with clip on meter. Both camera and meter work well. Cosmetically KEH excellent. A hundred bucks plus shipping and it's yours. Pentax Spotmatic F. A very nice camera. Only minor blemishes, mostly on the base plate from tripod use. CLAed two years ago. Shutter speeds good, everything works. It has a body plug and the flash synch plugs. $150 plus shipping SMC Pentax 17/4 fisheye lens. This is the lens with three built in filters. It's in very nice condition and yields wonderful results. I'm a bit hesitant about selling this one because I don't have the K. But, hey, if you want it, it's yours for $250 plus shipping SMC Pentax 50/4 macro. Very nice condition. A good macro lens. $100 plus shipping. SMC Pentax 120/2.8. Great lens and not very common. KEH excellent. $150 plus shipping. SMC Pentax 105/2.8. This is a very highly regarded lens, and this is a fine example of the breed. $175 plus shipping. SMC Pentax 28/3.5. A great lens at a great price. KEH excellent. $75 plus shipping. SMC Pentax 85/1.8. Quite possibly the best Pentax screwmount lens ever made. This one is near mint. I'll take $250 plus shipping. SMC Pentax 300/4. Minor dings and rub marks on hood and focus ring but very nice glass. Unlike the K version, this one has a tripod mount. I've gotten some good motorsport shots with this one. Good glass for $250 plus shipping. That's it for now. It goes on ebay Monday night or thereabouts. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: *ist D image noise examples
yes, it does. you have to set a Custom Function to allow it. Herb - Original Message - From: "Mr. William M Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:23 AM Subject: Re: *ist D image noise examples > An interesting comparison chart . . . but there is one problem: > > The ist D doesn't do ISO 3200 and yet they are reporting values for it. > Shouldn't they be reporting 3200 as "N/A"? A quick scan of the text > doesn't indicate why.
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Hey, Tom, Steve forgot one: "G" for "Graywolf". You would have to put it in front of all of your posts, so we don't have to listen to your curmudgeonly ways if we don't want to. But, to be fair, if you agree with that, I'll agree with: "B" for "Bunny Ears". So the list won't have to put up with whatever it is I do that annoys everyone here. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:09:49 -0500 Rasberry time... Why should the poster have to do your work for you. We have never been able to get folks to change the subject line when they change the subject, and you expert them to do all that just so you don't have to figure out how to set up a proper filter? See my tag line. -- Steve Desjardins wrote: We could actually do this if it would make things easier for people. Start a post with d: for digital (including photoshop) f: for film (including processing) g: or nothing for general photo stuff like composition o: for off topic for example d: WOOHOO! when you get your new *ist D f: WOOHOO! when you find that LX for $50.00 at a yard sale g: WOOHOO! or simply WOOHOO! when you finally get paid for that last Wedding shoot o: WOOHOO! if you have found that perfect beef stew recipe. Just a thought . . . -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: *ist D image noise examples
NeatImage is software or a Photoshop plugin designed for batch noise reduction in images. it is PC-only software, but it works in emulators on Linux or Mac. http://www.neatimage.com/ the FAJ series of lenses will work properly only on bodies that make aperture adjustments from the camera body like the *ist and *istD. if you mount them on an older body, the aperture won't work and you will be stuck at one shooting aperture. i forget if it is wide open or not. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:40 AM Subject: SV: *ist D image noise examples > Hi > What is Neat Image - PC software? Or what? > > By dthe way. Do you know if lenses made for the *ist D - e.i FA-J 18-35 mm - > can be used on a 35mm body? (It's a nice range for 35 mm).
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
I think that "modern" cameras wouldn't work well with "ERC's". Their bodies are have irregular shapes. Not like slab-sided Spotties and the like. Besides, with all the control surfaces sticking out from every surface of the bodies these days, designing a workable one that would not destroy the usability of those interfaces would be near impossible. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:09:39 - Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many combinations now I suppose. > _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: OT Stanstead, was: Unusual subjects to photograph.
> Nearly all of the increase in air miles is by internal flights. Well, the > road and rail network has gone to hell on a handcart and will cost billions > to sort. Airport expansion is the quick cheap fix - a *bit* of land around > the airports and journey times are kept low. The numbers travelling means > that even if we had a good rail network, they would struggle on price alone > now. Sad to note that a lot of the land for airports is still used as car > parking, as despite direct rail links to Stanstead, everyone wants the car. > Here in the USA, airport parking lots are an airport's largest source of income. Bill