Heading across the pond.
I am over a month behind on the list - many threads have been deleted. I am still planning on catchin up - so bear with me. The news is that I am headed to London, England this month. Too long a story to explain how this all came about... I will be leaving the USA on the 17th and returning on the 31st. I will be visiting my cousin. Therefore I will not have weekends available. Any interest in any PDML members getting together? Of course Cotty has first dibs on my time :-) Let me know of any interest, César Panama City, Florida P.S. I will probably be traveling with only the LXen and maybe an MX - no medium format, and I am thinking about digital...
RE: *ist Ds Shutter actuations
G'day Cotty. Must have been your distant relative that originated from ancestors that were transported here in the 1700's... :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:23 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: *ist Ds Shutter actuations On 6/10/05, Trevor Bailey, discombobulated, unleashed: Today I took possession of a Second hand *ist Ds. It's 9 months old. Got it from a bloke with money problems. I didn't sell you anything! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: *ist Ds Shutter actuations
G'day Dave. We all have money problems...Just ask my Missus :-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton -Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:40 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: *ist Ds Shutter actuations Well obviously you don't have money problems. Dave (who has no problem at all with money. I quite like it in fact) vbg
Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
I ~do~ like it, I just think it could be a bit better. But, I'm of the opinion that my opinions are out of step with what most people on this list think about most photos. Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: frank theriault Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Frank ... I guess we have much different ideas about what's acceptable in a photo. i guess... g I think you've caught a nice scene here but, for me, it's ruined by the tilt and the guy's head in the window that's cut off. thanks for your thoughts and comment, shel. i'd rather you be honest and tell me what you think than lie and tell me you like it when you don't. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: cultural image perception
Chopsticks make a good meal last longer! -Original Message- From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:37 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: cultural image perception Even more perplexing then... :) Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: cultural image perception Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:29:01 -0400 They did use the spoon... Tom C wrote: I know the popular story regarding chopsticks being an extension of the fingers... Really though, I just can't understand why a culture that used shovels to move dirt efficiently couldn't relate that to the human anatomy... I mean, if you want to dig a hole, do you go get two poles and manipulate them, picking up dirt between them. until the hole is dug? Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: cultural image perception Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:46:14 -0400 I've seen it claimed that the Chinese actually invented the fork, just never adopted it as a table implement. Chopsticks worked well enough. Tom C wrote: It may explain why they invented chopsticks... lack of focus... whereas the western world has a no-nonsense fork, knife, and spoon... stab the meat.. no slight intended... just always wondering... and blathering... Somewhat interesting... http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2002/0117/cu18-1.html Tom C. From: Jim Colwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pdml pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: cultural image perception Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 18:25:44 -0300 Vic, thanks for the interesting link in Mind the Chinese I think that your post raises a wide range of cutural image perception issues. For me, a line or series of elements with visual flow from the low left to high right in an image has a dynamic and on-going quality, while a similar structure going from low right to high left seems regressive. Is this the same perception as one who reads from right to left ? Do others who read from left to right (as I do) have the up-and-to-the-right as positive, or is it a consequence of math graphs with +x,+y in the upper right quadrant ? Jim www.jcolwell.ca -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Starring Knarf
Mark Roberts wrote: Funny, there's no mention of cormorants anywhere. Oh wait, wrong magazine... That was May issue. Dario
RE: Finland
Sure there are :-). Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Estera Oy Turku www.computec.fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:13 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: Finland Any PDMLers in Finland? Collin KC8TKA mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?
On Oct 7, 2005, at 9:58 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: All, I'm interested in getting computer/monitor recommendations that are aimed at photo editing functions (e.g., which flat-panel monitor is best for photoshop?) rather than high-end game play (e.g., which system gives higher frame rates in Far Cry?). Computer: As much memory as you can afford, then add another Gb. Two fast HDDs Fast CPU Wacom tablets are very nice Screen: Ideally you'll want good colour definition. In a flat panel this can be expensive. - Dave
Re: istDS Troubles
On Oct 7, 2005, at 6:42 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: LOL ... Yeah, I get cranky too sometimes. Shoulda seen me swearing at the Epson 1270 last time I attempted to make a few prints with it. It's been fixed now ... the Epson R2400 arrived yesterday. ;-) My 2100 has been a bit like that, too. Nothing's worse than doing a good test print on the 329mm roll paper, touching absolutely nothing, then having the 1 metre long panorama spoiled by a clogged nozzle. Oh well, it's good enough to sell as a second as the lines are only visible close-up. Now it's smearing ink because the cleaning sponge is full and I need to empty/clean it. I wish I was doing the volume to justify a 4000 or even a 9800. Might need to do Marketing 101. Cheers, - Dave
Re: Setting Up a Web Site
On Oct 6, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Jostein wrote: Kevin, I'm a true novice to the secret powers of RegEx... Would they also pick it up if you split up the mail address into parts contained in variables, and then assemble the mail address by concatenating the variables? That's basically the scheme I ended up implementing on my website this morning, but I did it as a function which is easier for me to slot into the HTML. I need to work on how I present the noscript text though because it has to be human-readable but not harvestable. BTW I'd say regexps were all greek to me, but they look more like martian. - Dave (currently working on an improved photo gallery system, and is just about getting used to this javascript thing now)
Re: OT: photo editing computer info sources?
Hi, Quoting Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm interested in getting computer/monitor recommendations that are aimed at photo editing functions (e.g., which flat-panel monitor is best for photoshop?) rather than high-end game play (e.g., which system gives higher frame rates in Far Cry?). I've been giving this some thoughts over the last months. I've been looking at individual components to build my own Dream Machine. My last three machines have all been home built, but just general-purpose boxes. Next time I will tailor it more to my photographic needs. Computer: Knowing that Photoshop can take advantage of more than one CPU, I would like to have a Dual CPU system. If you don't want to build something, I would recommend the workstations from Fujitsu-Siemens. They have a good reputation for selecting components that work well together. Screen: I bought a 20 LaCie screen in June that I'm very happy with. Every bit as good as the Apple Cinema screen, but half the price. I compared it to an Apple in the shop, where both screens were attached to the same PC with a Dual DVI. Actually, the 20 Apple is *smaller* than a 20 LaCie, because of the wide-screen format. The LaCie is in traditional format. Personally, I don't like wide-screens for computer use. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 03:46:49 +0200, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well Dern. Sorry ya'll, I didn't realize that was a registered member's only page :( How about the source location: http://www.mindspring.com/~d0cwh/pd1.JPG http://www.mindspring.com/~d0cwh/pd3.JPG That works. Nice. The streets have a 'computer game' look to them. Somehow I expected the camera to be on the outside, strapped to the front... Hmmm, I see a use for the Z-1's interval timer here... -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Heading across the pond.
From: Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/07 Fri AM 06:08:45 GMT To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Heading across the pond. I am over a month behind on the list - many threads have been deleted. I am still planning on catchin up - so bear with me. The news is that I am headed to London, England this month. Too long a story to explain how this all came about... I will be leaving the USA on the 17th and returning on the 31st. I will be visiting my cousin. Therefore I will not have weekends available. Pity. I am passing through London (rapidly) on the 16th and the 23rd. Any interest in any PDML members getting together? Of course Cotty has first dibs on my time :-) Let me know of any interest, César Panama City, Florida P.S. I will probably be traveling with only the LXen and maybe an MX - no medium format, and I am thinking about digital... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: matching shoulders g
frank theriault typed with one hand: well, today started with a bang! Nasty, glad to hear you wore a helmet and I wish you a speedy recovery. The relevance of a missing bell is lost on me, particularly when in traffic in a city, drivers with radios on etc would be hard pressed to hear it, when a few loud choice words hits the spot every time. Having performed an illegal turn and caused the accident, then I hope the cop issued an appropriate ticket to he/she/it, apart from the innocent and injured victim. Malcolm
OT: Congratulations IAEA
The International Atomic Energy Agency has been awarded the Nobel Peace Price for 2005. Well deserved, IMHO. http://www.nobel.no/eng_lau_announce2005.html Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Fall in the Adirondacks
thanks. it's something that i can't explain to anyone either. the technical stuff, anyone can learn if they really want to, and i have spent some time teaching it, among other things. i think that the technical stuff is a very important foundation to being a top tier photographer. there are some people who have managed without it, but i think it is easier with. i don't know how to teach anyone to be creative and imaginative. someone who sees new things they love and merely imitate can still get excellent shots, but you'll always know within what range they work. someone creative and imaginative will manage to surprise you regularly with something new and exciting. Herb - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:22 PM Subject: Re: Fall in the Adirondacks Herb, I didn't mention this in my first post, but the reason I asked what you shot the scenes with was because the images have a brilliance an clarity that impressed me. I'm not taking anything away from your terrific uploads, but the well composed scenes have a special pop about them. I have a pro photog friend who just took delivery of a D2X and is virtually as happy with it as with his 22mp backed Contax 645. I messed with a few minutes and he practly had to pry it from my grip to get it back. :-)
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
P. J. Alling wrote: You really got to be more careful. He's been riding professionally for a long time. I think he knows traffic better than most of us! Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. As a long time motorcycle rider (since 1950) I can assure you, on two wheels you become almost invisible on the road. It's an old joke among long term riders, that when involved in a car/bike accident, and the car driver is asked [rather stupidly in my humble opinion] How could you possibly hit him! He was right in front of you. I didn't see him. How many little children have you run over? They are *much* smaller than a motorcycle and rider. Facts are, bikes *are* practically invisible to the rest of the motoring public, and a cyclist has to be at 110% attention at all times. As Frank is an excellent example of, even then you stand a very much higher incidence of having a traffic accident than a motorcar. Mend quickly, Frank. You have my empathy! I've been *so* close, so many times... I can see the whole picture. It IS dangerous out there. Be well, keith frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! [...]
Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I ~do~ like it, I just think it could be a bit better. But, I'm of the opinion that my opinions are out of step with what most people on this list think about most photos. It's all in the language, isn't it? I think this pic gets a message across, and it certainly makes me curious about the story. Levelling the window frame would probably cure the sense of tilt, but then again the guitar seems pretty straight vertical as it is now. For aestethic reasons I agree it would be better with the forehead of the person included, but the cut-off doesn't hamper the content of the shot. I really like it, Frank. Maybe a tad too sharp, but never mind...:-) jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Ouch!!! Heal soon, Frank. Make sure the collar-bone grows together evenly. Jostein Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: well, today started with a bang! i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding to work this morning. ambulance took me to hospital, and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone. on tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast. hurt like hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts a lot. bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast. bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim! i'm okay, though; shoulder should heal fine, but with a really big bump. i'll know how long when i go to the fracture clinic in a few days. i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work. i'll try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes. think i'll be off my bikes for a while. i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be seriously injured or dead. road rash on my left cheek and ear, big dent on my helmet right over the temple. as it is, not even a headache! more details later when i can type with 2 hands vbg. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: matching shoulders g
Malcolm Smith wrote: frank theriault typed with one hand: well, today started with a bang! Nasty, glad to hear you wore a helmet and I wish you a speedy recovery. The relevance of a missing bell is lost on me, particularly when in traffic in a city, drivers with radios on etc would be hard pressed to hear it, when a few loud choice words hits the spot every time. Having performed an illegal turn and caused the accident, then I hope the cop issued an appropriate ticket to he/she/it, apart from the innocent and injured victim. Malcolm Part of Frank's settlement ought to be to have that obviously biased traffic cop reassigned to the garbage truck detail... Speaking of helmets, our local motorcycle shop has about 8 used helmets hung up above their accessories counter, showing how much abrasion a helmet takes. A couple of the full face helmets which were almost completely worn thru by rough pavement make you a real believer! Had that been a helmetless rider, if he didn't die from the terrible road contact, he would have been disfigured and have gone thru so much plastic surgery! No, helmets are truly essential pieces of gear. when I think of the years before general public availability and acceptance of helmets, back when I wore a Harley Davidson soft cap and moccasins... well, it just makes me shudder to think of how vulnerable I really was! keith whaley
Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
frank theriault wrote: don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments LOL http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg apologies to bob sullivan g -frank Great shot, Frank. Variations on a theme. Dogs like that guard their master's possessions all over the world, I'm sure. I'm very well pleased to see THIS one's master had the empathy to provide a soft surface for his faithful companion... Nice! keith
Re: Re: OT: matching shoulders g
From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/07 Fri AM 10:47:42 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g P. J. Alling wrote: You really got to be more careful. He's been riding professionally for a long time. I think he knows traffic better than most of us! Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. As a long time motorcycle rider (since 1950) I can assure you, on two wheels you become almost invisible on the road. It's an old joke among long term riders, that when involved in a car/bike accident, and the car driver is asked [rather stupidly in my humble opinion] How could you possibly hit him! He was right in front of you. I didn't see him. How many little children have you run over? They are *much* smaller than a motorcycle and rider. Facts are, bikes *are* practically invisible to the rest of the motoring public, and a cyclist has to be at 110% attention at all times. As Frank is an excellent example of, even then you stand a very much higher incidence of having a traffic accident than a motorcar. That's not true for experienced, careful riders. In the UK, they have a much lower incidence of accidents. When they do have one, they are sometimes able to reduce the effects by the actions they are able to take before the collision occurs. Mend quickly, Frank. You have my empathy! I've been *so* close, so many times... I can see the whole picture. It IS dangerous out there. Be well, keith frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! [...] - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: The slow and painful death of film.
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The slow and painful death of film. I have been using Future Shop labs here in Toronto and the prints from my D2h and istD are very good. Just wondering what it looks like at your end Digital print quality has more to do with the customer than with the lab. Results vary based on the customer. William Robb So i'm finally doing something right then.LOL Dave
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
That's terrible news Frank. Glad to hear that your not to seriously injured. And I thought I was having a bad week. Kinda' puts my piddly little problems into perspective. Wishing you a speedy recovery Dave On 10/7/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, today started with a bang! i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding to work this morning. ambulance took me to hospital, and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone. on tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast. hurt like hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts a lot. bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast. bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim! i'm okay, though; shoulder should heal fine, but with a really big bump. i'll know how long when i go to the fracture clinic in a few days. i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work. i'll try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes. think i'll be off my bikes for a while. i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be seriously injured or dead. road rash on my left cheek and ear, big dent on my helmet right over the temple. as it is, not even a headache! more details later when i can type with 2 hands vbg. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
OT: Off for Thnaksgiving
Hey troops. Just getting ready for my annual trek to Madawaska Ontario. Kind of a dreary day today,calling for rain, but the weekend looks good. Still it can lead to some decent shots i think. I was not happy with the fall shots the D2H gave me last year(mind you it was sick at the time and i was not aware of it) so we'll give the istD a work out. Bringing the 6x7 and Reala fim as a just in case. Got some BW in the PZ-1 to start taking Fair shots for 2006. Sorry but i like to plan ahead.LOL Have fun Dave
Re: GESO: Fall in the Adirondacks
last weekend in the Adirondacks was a little early for the fall colors this year, and what there was seemed much duller than usual. from a distance, it all looks summer green mixed in with lots of brown. only when you get closer are the other colors easily distinguishable. the birches, for the most part, hadn't even started to turn yellow yet. the skies were clear blue with a few wispy clouds at most. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/ Herb I like the water fall shots. I'll have to learn how to do that for GFM next year.:-) The shot of the farm field and the hills in the background is good to. Dave
BW digital print report
I feel for some reason i commented on this, but don't see anything on the list.Must be having a senior moment.:-) Anyway, got my conversion print back from Futureshop labs. Its the one i submitted the other day as a peso. I requested it on BW paper if they had such. It was done on Royal Kodak paper, so its probably on colour paper. It looks ok(i forgot to imbedd sRGB into it, but i didi on the colour shots)but my only complaint, and my daughter and wife cannot see it so i'm the nutters here, is the face SEEMSs to have a tint of green to it. Other than that its a decent job. I think a wet print would look nicer. The BW film grain adds to shots like this. However i suppose in hind sight, i could have added some. Print looks to smoothe. IYKWIM. Hope this helps someone. Dave
Re: OT: Congratulations IAEA
Jostein wrote: The International Atomic Energy Agency has been awarded the Nobel Peace Price for 2005. Well deserved, IMHO. http://www.nobel.no/eng_lau_announce2005.html Jostein It has, unfortunately, got a long way to go. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2298/ - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
I like the shot. The people behind the window don't bother me. I think they make it much more interesting. And the crop in the middle of the one man's forehead is appropriate in that it diminishes the importance of the figures. However, I would correct the tilt. A simple one or two degree clockwise rotation fixes it. Sometimes a tilt is just fine, and it can even be a plus. Here, where the geometry is clearly defined by the windows, the tilt is annoying. Worth fixing, IMHO. Paul On Oct 7, 2005, at 7:06 AM, keith_w wrote: frank theriault wrote: don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments LOL http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg apologies to bob sullivan g -frank Great shot, Frank. Variations on a theme. Dogs like that guard their master's possessions all over the world, I'm sure. I'm very well pleased to see THIS one's master had the empathy to provide a soft surface for his faithful companion... Nice! keith
Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/6/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank ... I guess we have much different ideas about what's acceptable in a photo. i guess... g I think you've caught a nice scene here but, for me, it's ruined by the tilt and the guy's head in the window that's cut off. thanks for your thoughts and comment, shel. i'd rather you be honest and tell me what you think than lie and tell me you like it when you don't. I wouldn't mind if the camera had been tilted up a bit more - not to keep the guys' heads in the frame but just to position the dog a little lower (just a we bit!) Not a big deal, though. And I actually think it's important to crop part of the head in the window, because he's not the main subject. That's the way HCB woulda done it ;-) I think the shot would have been *ruined* if you hadn't got the tilt: That would have made it far too static. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Hi! What! You think Canadians are SOCIALISTS? You Svine! Tom C. Tom, please explain yourself! Are you joking or are you being serious? Thanks. Boris
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really got to be more careful. Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... LOL :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Cape May report and 3 more birds
Hi! Just a (not very brief) note on my avian photography workshop with Greg Downing in Cape May, New Jersey last week. BONUS: three new images! http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id33.html (comments appreciated) I like the last one (close up) the most... Wonderful series, Christian! Boris
Re: Re: OT: matching shoulders g
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/07 Fri PM 01:09:33 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Hi! What! You think Canadians are SOCIALISTS? You Svine! Tom C. Tom, please explain yourself! Are you joking or are you being serious? Thanks. Boris Whichever, I want some of what he's been drinking for the last few hours. mike too sober at work - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
PUG october finally open.
Hi folks, PUG is finally open. Kitsch seems to be a difficult theme ;-). It sits on http://pug.komkon.org and on my website http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/05oct as usual. Cheers Adelheid
Re: matching shoulders g
Yo Frank, bad news man. Get better soon! From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:28 PM To: PDML Subject: OT: matching shoulders g well, today started with a bang! i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding to work this morning. ambulance took me to hospital, and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone. on tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast. hurt like hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts a lot. bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast. bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim! i'm okay, though; shoulder should heal fine, but with a really big bump. i'll know how long when i go to the fracture clinic in a few days. i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work. i'll try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes. think i'll be off my bikes for a while. i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be seriously injured or dead. road rash on my left cheek and ear, big dent on my helmet right over the temple. as it is, not even a headache! more details later when i can type with 2 hands vbg. cheers, frank Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: Driving shots (not mine)
On 6/10/05, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed: On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:34:09 -0400, cbwaters wrote: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422408 You are not logged in or do not have permission to access this page. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ For future ref, this page is VERY helpful: http://bugmenot.com/ :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: You really got to be more careful. Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... Like the Liberty Bell. Drop it on the buggers. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
On 7/10/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: But, Frank, you ought to fight for more than just your bike and 4 missed work days... Boris is right. My wife was rammed from behind (stop it. ;-) by a tanker driver and had mild whiplash as a result. She had some physio for a while and we recovered all costs involved including car value (her car was write-off) and she also got an offer of nearly three grand (GBP) compensation for suffering etc - all from the other party's insurance. I hope you got the license plate number ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: matching shoulders g
Keith whaley wrote: Part of Frank's settlement ought to be to have that obviously biased traffic cop reassigned to the garbage truck detail... Speaking of helmets, our local motorcycle shop has about 8 used helmets hung up above their accessories counter, showing how much abrasion a helmet takes. A couple of the full face helmets which were almost completely worn thru by rough pavement make you a real believer! Had that been a helmetless rider, if he didn't die from the terrible road contact, he would have been disfigured and have gone thru so much plastic surgery! No, helmets are truly essential pieces of gear. when I think of the years before general public availability and acceptance of helmets, back when I wore a Harley Davidson soft cap and moccasins... well, it just makes me shudder to think of how vulnerable I really was! A few weeks ago, I came close to buying a Yamaha RD350LC YPVS - I had one some years ago. It's not just protection to your head you require; it's some form of 'second sight'. Locally to me, we have traffic calming measures of speed humps and/or tables (quite often find oncoming traffic on your side of the road avoiding them) and coupled with the neglect and poor road surface repairs, even an empty road requires the sort of concentration riding two wheels that eliminates any pleasure from riding. Add the traffic back in, and the high speeds on minor roads without speed cameras, where motorists make up for the time on the roads with them on, and I feel safe only in my Land-Rover. Over here, the emergency services refer to motorcyclists and cycle riders as 'organ donors' :-( Malcolm
Re: BW digital print report
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BW digital print report I requested it on BW paper if they had such. It was done on Royal Kodak paper, so its probably on colour paper. It looks ok(i forgot to imbedd sRGB into it, but i didi on the colour shots)but my only complaint, and my daughter and wife cannot see it so i'm the nutters here, is the face SEEMSs to have a tint of green to it. I don't think anyone is printing commercial BW on BW paper anymore. It's all done on colour paper. I'm pretty sure the chromogenic papers have all been discontinued. The face probably does have a green tint, it's almost impossible to profile colour paper to mono with no wonks. William Robb
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
- Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. A Bell would help, a Huey would help more. William Robb
OT: update
1st, thanks to everyone for your wishes. after a mostly sleepless night, i decided to go to work, where i am now. shoulder's still sore as hell, but it's better than yesterday, which must be good. won't be posting too much today, 'cause typing with just one hand is just too slow, but i'll be reading, so watch what you say LOL luckily most of my dispatch work is done with the numberpad and mouse, so i can work right-handed... 20 minutes until my next dose o' drugs - woo hoo! -knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: update
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, frank theriault wrote: 1st, thanks to everyone for your wishes. after a mostly sleepless night, i decided to go to work, where i am now. shoulder's still sore as hell, but it's better than yesterday, which must be good. Get well soon, Frank. Though, think of the possibilities! Blur can take a whole new dimension if at the time you release the shutter you get a sharp pain. Always look at the bright side of life, Kostas
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frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 20 minutes until my next dose o' drugs - woo hoo! Now *there's* one for the quotation archives! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On Oct 6, 2005, at 20:27, frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! [snip!] bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast. bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim! I'm sorry to hear about your accident, Frank. And the fact that you got nailed with a fine despite not being the one at fault sucks supremely. It's the same for those of us in the motorized two- wheeled-vehicle camp, unfortunately. If you're not on 4 wheels, you don't seem to get the fair treatment in accident scenarios. :-( Good luck with the lawyering, and I'm glad to hear that you had a helmet on. My son has been in TWO major bike accidents in the past 5 years, and I'm sure he'd be dead or severely handicapped if he hadn't had a helmet on each time. I wouldn't bike anywhere anymore without a lid on. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org
Re: PAW/PESO: Loyalty
I wouldn't change it. I even like the slight tilt. You don't want gloating over your physical condition to make comments harsher either, right? Get well soon, Frank, and I'm =really= glad you were wearing a helmet! Rick --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't allow pity 4 my physical condition to temper your comments LOL http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/169487.jpg apologies to bob sullivan g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: OT: matching shoulders g
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/10/07 Fri PM 01:27:03 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g - Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. A Bell would help, a Huey would help more. Bell was (one of) the first full face helmets. Maybe the suggestion is that Frank needs to hide his face and stop scaring the motorists into unpredictable actions. 8-))) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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And some people don't recognize the sarcasm about his getting a ticket unless you hold up a sign. keith_w wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: You really got to be more careful. He's been riding professionally for a long time. I think he knows traffic better than most of us! Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. As a long time motorcycle rider (since 1950) I can assure you, on two wheels you become almost invisible on the road. It's an old joke among long term riders, that when involved in a car/bike accident, and the car driver is asked [rather stupidly in my humble opinion] How could you possibly hit him! He was right in front of you. I didn't see him. How many little children have you run over? They are *much* smaller than a motorcycle and rider. Facts are, bikes *are* practically invisible to the rest of the motoring public, and a cyclist has to be at 110% attention at all times. As Frank is an excellent example of, even then you stand a very much higher incidence of having a traffic accident than a motorcar. Mend quickly, Frank. You have my empathy! I've been *so* close, so many times... I can see the whole picture. It IS dangerous out there. Be well, keith frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! [...] -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/10/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: You really got to be more careful. Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... Like the Liberty Bell. Drop it on the buggers. Big Ben. They'll never be able to identify the remains. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Some *good* news, BTW
Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer survivor as of Tuesday. Looking forward to seeing him at the mountain in June. How 'bout the rest of you? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Keith whaley wrote: Speaking of helmets, our local motorcycle shop has about 8 used helmets hung up above their accessories counter, showing how much abrasion a helmet takes. A couple of the full face helmets which were almost completely worn thru by rough pavement make you a real believer! Had that been a helmetless rider, if he didn't die from the terrible road contact, he would have been disfigured and have gone thru so much plastic surgery! No, helmets are truly essential pieces of gear. People, even bikers, tend to assume that helmets are only for impact protection. Man, *friction* can be a killer too! I crashed my FZR 400 at Pocono Raceway once and, though I didn't hit my head hard, I'd have shaved off my beard and then some without that helmet! when I think of the years before general public availability and acceptance of helmets, back when I wore a Harley Davidson soft cap and moccasins... well, it just makes me shudder to think of how vulnerable I really was! At the beginning of every race weekend you have to take your motorcycle to tech inspection so they can certify that it's raceworthy. One weekend I was camped right next to the tech inspection area so I just hopped on and rode it up there without putting my helmet on. Maybe 50 yards distance at about 5 mph, mostly over grass but it still gave me the creeps. I walked it back! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Another bluejay...
Thanks to Rob, Frank P.J. for their comments. With helpful guidance from Rob I went back and reworked the image. Here's my latest version. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/50222048/ Comments ?? -- Fred Widall, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall Images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall --
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Frank, All I can say is heal fast. Glad to know you were wearing a helmet. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: matching shoulders g well, today started with a bang! i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding to work this morning. ambulance took me to hospital, and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone. on tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast. hurt like hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts a lot. bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast. bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim! i'm okay, though; shoulder should heal fine, but with a really big bump. i'll know how long when i go to the fracture clinic in a few days. i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work. i'll try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes. think i'll be off my bikes for a while. i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be seriously injured or dead. road rash on my left cheek and ear, big dent on my helmet right over the temple. as it is, not even a headache! more details later when i can type with 2 hands vbg. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: OT: Congratulations IAEA
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has, unfortunately, got a long way to go. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2298/ Sadly, yes. I also learned today that a number of nations are breaking the non-proliferation agreement, and not only Iran refuse to give IAEA access to inspect their facilities. USA's production of the new so-called smart nuclear bombs is one example, and Pakistan, India and Israel has also been mentioned. Jostein
Re: PESO: Sand Pile
John, thanks for commenting. Abstracts, among other things, are not every one's cup of tea. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile Kenneth, I usually adore your photographs, but I just haven't been able to form an opinion about this one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it has the Waller trademark of being more than the sum of its considerable parts, but somehow I just haven't been able to relate to it. I suspect I would like to see it ten feet wide on a wall somewhere to appreciate it properly. John On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:33:55 +0100, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Doug, thanks for commenting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile On 10/3/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out - http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comment solicited, what strikes you? yea, nay, or indifferent Thanks in advance for commenting. It doesn't look like a dune to me. It doesn't really look like anything but an abstract design, and that's even after being told what it is. Sure as hell is cool, though. Yea! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X
The Nikon distributor in Norway was also a independent company. They apparently abused their position enough to exhaust the patience of Nikon, who is now taking over themselves. Maybe one solution for your friend, Boris, could be to write a letter to Nikon's European head office to explain the situation? Jostein - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X That's Nikon SOP. They get away with it because each country has a semi-independant distributor. Canon is a single company for most of the world, so they are generally forced to honor warantees from other countries. -Adam Michael Spivak wrote: Hi Boris You know that this is the official policy of the Israely Nikon importer - the are taking gear bought ONLY directly from them or via official distributors. if you get your gear from US (any shop like BH or adorama) - you are on your own there... you have to send it yourself to the warranty in US or europe. BTW, Canon in Israel does the same thing... Michael. On 10/6/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! This is probably more Israeli story than anything else. A husband of one of co-workers from my previous company is rather serious photog. We met him in the local zoo two days ago with his D2X and some rather big 200-400/4 Nikon zoom attached to it. He is working for the zoo, actually, as a photog that is. Some months ago I witnessed him shelling out order of $5,500 in local currency for brand new D2X. Now, that we've met he told me 4 our of 11 AF zones do not work. I trust him to be good enough with his gear to be able to say such a thing with reasonable certainty... Now, seemingly Nikon has very strong presence in Israel. Yet, the official dealer from whom he bought the darn thing, refuses to take the camera to the repairs under warranty. I am very unamused, and I can only try to imagine how this poor fellow feels. Just a story, a bit of anecdotal evidence, a curiosity, yet I thought I'd share it with the list... I think it all boils down to quality control which apparently can never be too good. Boris -- Yours Michael
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Yes, wearing helmet is a must. Even if it not helps always, you did everything to protect yourself. Frank, i hope you will be fine after 1-2 months. And yes, almost forgot. Having 2 hands helps a lot when taking photos :) Gasha, with bike in the streets for 6 years now Kenneth Waller wrote: Frank, All I can say is heal fast. Glad to know you were wearing a helmet. Kenneth Waller
Re: OT: Congratulations IAEA
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has, unfortunately, got a long way to go. http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2298/ Sadly, yes. I also learned today that a number of nations are breaking the non-proliferation agreement, and not only Iran refuse to give IAEA access to inspect their facilities. USA's production of the new so-called smart nuclear bombs is one example, and Pakistan, India and Israel has also been mentioned. Good article in the Atlantic this month: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200511/aq-khan -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: BW digital print report
im glad you qualified that comment. there are a couple of labs here that do exceptional bw work on color paper. there's a huge photo of mother theresa in the lobby of pictopia (http://www.pictopia.com/) that' bw on color paper that will knock your socks off. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb The face probably does have a green tint, it's almost impossible to profile colour paper to mono with no wonks.
Re: PESO: Sand Pile
Tom, for reference, that shot is almost full frame, from the *ist D with a 1.4 converter and an FA 300mm f4.5, sooo that would be 630mm or approx 16 X. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile Ken, I tend to agree that this one leaves me feeling non-commital or empty. It is definitely very abstract. I'm having a problem determining if it is a telephoto view of the dunes or a telephoto view of some of the ripples in the sandy creek bed that runs in front of them. Was there numerous times as a child. Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:02:13 +0100 Kenneth, I usually adore your photographs, but I just haven't been able to form an opinion about this one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it has the Waller trademark of being more than the sum of its considerable parts, but somehow I just haven't been able to relate to it. I suspect I would like to see it ten feet wide on a wall somewhere to appreciate it properly. John On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:33:55 +0100, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Doug, thanks for commenting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile On 10/3/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out - http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comment solicited, what strikes you? yea, nay, or indifferent Thanks in advance for commenting. It doesn't look like a dune to me. It doesn't really look like anything but an abstract design, and that's even after being told what it is. Sure as hell is cool, though. Yea! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
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Unfortunately, Frank's story is why I don't normally ride the streets/roads anymore - I've had people aim at me to force me off the road. Keneth Waller -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, today started with a bang! i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding to work this morning. snip Yikes! Scary story, especially to someone who regularly rides the roads. Hope you're not out of action for too long. (And I hope the Canadian court system works better than the one over here - I'm taking a legal course as part of my masters program here and these things are even *more* scary when you start to learn how they work!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Some *good* news, BTW
Mark Roberts wrote: Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer survivor as of Tuesday. Looking forward to seeing him at the mountain in June. How 'bout the rest of you? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com Rhetorical question for sure :) Whether or not one can get there is another matter Yippie for Don, of course! ann
Re: BW digital print report
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: BW digital print report im glad you qualified that comment. there are a couple of labs here that do exceptional bw work on color paper. there's a huge photo of mother theresa in the lobby of pictopia (http://www.pictopia.com/) that' bw on color paper that will knock your socks off. Future shop is not an exceptional lab, apparently. In order to get a mono print off colour paper, both the paper cureve and the image curve has to be massaged. I have a very good mono profile on my machine that I arrived at through much work, but if the files haven't been equally profiled, there will always be a couple of tonal values that show a bit of a cast. Add to that, we see colour casts much more quickly in mono than in colour prints, if the print is off by just a feww cc's, an overall colour cast will be readily apparent. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I have strong doubts that your labs are doing volume production work, since to get it absolutely right, every print will be a custom one off; a very time consuming task. William Robb
Re: BW digital print report
it is a high end custom lab ... they print for customers all over the world, not just locally. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb I'm not saying it can't be done, but I have strong doubts that your labs are doing volume production work, since to get it absolutely right, every print will be a custom one off; a very time consuming task. William Robb
Re: OT: Off for Thnaksgiving
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 07:20:30 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey troops. Just getting ready for my annual trek to Madawaska Ontario. Kind of a dreary day today,calling for rain, but the weekend looks good. Have a nice trip, Dave. I'm off to Pickering. Should come back with a healthy glow vbg (hopefully not) Wendy -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada
Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X
- Original Message - From: Jostein Subject: Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X The Nikon distributor in Norway was also a independent company. They apparently abused their position enough to exhaust the patience of Nikon, who is now taking over themselves. Maybe one solution for your friend, Boris, could be to write a letter to Nikon's European head office to explain the situation? If you read the fine print in the warranty, you will sometimes find that the equipment is not warranted for professional use, even though the marketing is aiming it at the professional user. Not saying this is the case, but I have seen this sort of thing in the past.
Re: BW digital print report
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: BW digital print report it is a high end custom lab ... they print for customers all over the world, not just locally. That makes sense then. What are they using for their output machine? William Robb
Re: Pentax TimeLine
Thanks Michel for answering your own question. This is really interesting. Derek Michel Carrère-Gée a écrit : There are two or three years, a member of PDML published two documents which I preserved: Pentax 35mm lens timeline http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/PentaxLensTimeLine.pdf and Pentax SLR timeline http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/PentaxSlrTimeLine.pdf I don't find the author nor the address Web; who remembers ? Michel
FS FRIDAY - SMC PENTAX - A 50mm/2.0
this one's in great contrition, makes for a nice portrait lens in the D siblings, comes with FR caps. $25.00 plus shipping contact off list please. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/a50.jpg Shel
FS FRIDAY - SMC PENTAX - A 50mm/2.0
this one's in great condition, makes for a nice portrait lens in the D siblings, comes with FR caps. $25.00 plus shipping contact off list please. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/a50.jpg Shel
RE: OT: update
Start taking pictures... l Tom C. 20 minutes until my next dose o' drugs - woo hoo! -knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Everybody should be required to ride a motorcycle for six months before getting a license for a car. It's incredible how much of a better driver it makes you. Now when I drive my car, I see motorcycles (I wouldn't claim I see them all, since the one you don't see is the one that gets you), I look around a lot more, and in general I'm more aware of the road than back when I didn't ride my Vespa. j On 10/7/05, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: You really got to be more careful. He's been riding professionally for a long time. I think he knows traffic better than most of us! Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. As a long time motorcycle rider (since 1950) I can assure you, on two wheels you become almost invisible on the road. It's an old joke among long term riders, that when involved in a car/bike accident, and the car driver is asked [rather stupidly in my humble opinion] How could you possibly hit him! He was right in front of you. I didn't see him. How many little children have you run over? They are *much* smaller than a motorcycle and rider. Facts are, bikes *are* practically invisible to the rest of the motoring public, and a cyclist has to be at 110% attention at all times. As Frank is an excellent example of, even then you stand a very much higher incidence of having a traffic accident than a motorcar. Mend quickly, Frank. You have my empathy! I've been *so* close, so many times... I can see the whole picture. It IS dangerous out there. Be well, keith frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! [...] -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
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On 10/6/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, today started with a bang! Ooohhh. I'm flinching just reading about it. Having been in a head-on collision with a white van myself, I feel your pain! Look after yourself and get some rest and I hope you're all healed up soon Wendy -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada
Re: BW digital print report
what's an output machine? you can probably get more accurate info than i can provide by checking their web site. http://www.pictopia.com/ Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: BW digital print report it is a high end custom lab ... they print for customers all over the world, not just locally. That makes sense then. What are they using for their output machine? William Robb
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Joking of course. :) Tom C. From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:09:33 +0200 Hi! What! You think Canadians are SOCIALISTS? You Svine! Tom C. Tom, please explain yourself! Are you joking or are you being serious? Thanks. Boris
Re: Re: OT: matching shoulders g
It shows? Tom C. Hi! What! You think Canadians are SOCIALISTS? You Svine! Tom C. Tom, please explain yourself! Are you joking or are you being serious? Thanks. Boris Whichever, I want some of what he's been drinking for the last few hours. mike too sober at work - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Hi! Joking of course. :) Good, because thoughts of brain derailment started to pop up in my mind ;-). Boris
Re: OT: update
Hi! 1st, thanks to everyone for your wishes. after a mostly sleepless night, i decided to go to work, where i am now. shoulder's still sore as hell, but it's better than yesterday, which must be good. Did you really have to do that? won't be posting too much today, 'cause typing with just one hand is just too slow, but i'll be reading, so watch what you say LOL luckily most of my dispatch work is done with the numberpad and mouse, so i can work right-handed... 20 minutes until my next dose o' drugs - woo hoo! Too bad... I think you should go home and rest until you are in reasonable shape to be up and going about your daily routine. But then again your contract and Canadian law may dictate otherwise... Wishing you the best... Boris
Re: BW digital print report
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: BW digital print report what's an output machine? That would be what they are using to write the files to photo paper. Answered my own question. It's a Gretag Lightjet 430. Nice equipment. William Robb
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Joking of course. :) HAR!!! Ever wonder why Ontario and Saskatchewan are pink on most world maps? William Robb
Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X
Hi! The Nikon distributor in Norway was also a independent company. They apparently abused their position enough to exhaust the patience of Nikon, who is now taking over themselves. Maybe one solution for your friend, Boris, could be to write a letter to Nikon's European head office to explain the situation? I did not have a chance for longer conversation than few sentences exchange. He was hunting some chimps with his big gear... I suppose you're right though it may not help as well... Sometimes being with obscure brand such as Pentax (*grin*) has its benefits... Boris
Re: Some *good* news, BTW
That is great news! He is such a nice, deserving individual. I hope to get back to GFM this next year. Don enabled me at the mountain by loaning me his personal DA 16-45 for several hours. As soon as I got back, I had to buy my own. -- Bruce Friday, October 7, 2005, 7:39:07 AM, you wrote: MR Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy MR for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) MR he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission MR Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). MR They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. MR They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given MR his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer MR survivor as of Tuesday. MR Looking forward to seeing him at the mountain in June. How 'bout the MR rest of you?
Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X
Hi! If you read the fine print in the warranty, you will sometimes find that the equipment is not warranted for professional use, even though the marketing is aiming it at the professional user. Not saying this is the case, but I have seen this sort of thing in the past. Gee, that's new for me. Thanks, Bill. I honestly and probably rather stupidly thought that flagship model of a giant such as Nikon would have better warranty coverage... Boris
Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: OT: Having met a fellow photog with Nikon D2X Not saying this is the case, but I have seen this sort of thing in the past. Gee, that's new for me. Thanks, Bill. I honestly and probably rather stupidly thought that flagship model of a giant such as Nikon would have better warranty coverage... It pays to read the warranty. Did the distributor give a reason for not warranting the camera? William Robb
Re: Some *good* news, BTW
Congrats to Don! I would =really= like to get to GFM. It depends upon when my son's high school graduation is, though, and the school hasn't planned that far ahead yet. Rick --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer survivor as of Tuesday. Looking forward to seeing him at the mountain in June. How 'bout the rest of you? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com __ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: BW digital print report
i looked up the gretag and the info says ... The LightJet 430 design incorporates advanced laser technology to optimize color range and color resolution. Its 36-bit color space, capable of producing 68 billion colors, ensures optimum control over the light source to reproduce color with perfect fidelity. In comparison, other photo printers are limited to 24 bits or 16.7 million colors. i was of the impression that printing technology at this point limited output to 24-bit. perhaps this machine is part of the reason pictopia's work is so good. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb what's an output machine? That would be what they are using to write the files to photo paper. Answered my own question. It's a Gretag Lightjet 430. Nice equipment.
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Juan Buhler wrote: Everybody should be required to ride a motorcycle for six months before getting a license for a car. It's incredible how much of a better driver it makes you. Now when I drive my car, I see motorcycles (I wouldn't claim I see them all, since the one you don't see is the one that gets you), I look around a lot more, and in general I'm more aware of the road than back when I didn't ride my Vespa. j And, before motorised transport, a bicycle to teach them about vulnerability. I am daily astonished at the appalling roadcraft shown by motorcyclists. They seem to spend most of their time relying on other road users to bail them out. I've seen four in the last three years that ran out of other peoples' skill. There's no excuse for it in this country. It is much harder to get a m/c licence than a car one these days. On 10/7/05, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: You really got to be more careful. He's been riding professionally for a long time. I think he knows traffic better than most of us! Get a Bell for crisakes, it will help protect you from the speeding cars... No, it really won't. I hope you said that tongue in cheek, but without a smiley or other indication, I assume you might have been serious. As a long time motorcycle rider (since 1950) I can assure you, on two wheels you become almost invisible on the road. It's an old joke among long term riders, that when involved in a car/bike accident, and the car driver is asked [rather stupidly in my humble opinion] How could you possibly hit him! He was right in front of you. I didn't see him. How many little children have you run over? They are *much* smaller than a motorcycle and rider. Facts are, bikes *are* practically invisible to the rest of the motoring public, and a cyclist has to be at 110% attention at all times. As Frank is an excellent example of, even then you stand a very much higher incidence of having a traffic accident than a motorcar. Mend quickly, Frank. You have my empathy! I've been *so* close, so many times... I can see the whole picture. It IS dangerous out there. Be well, keith frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! [...] -- Juan Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
They're in Canada? :) Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:16:39 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: OT: matching shoulders g Joking of course. :) HAR!!! Ever wonder why Ontario and Saskatchewan are pink on most world maps? William Robb
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Tom C wrote: It shows? Tom C. It glows like a white shirt under UV light. mike not at work now.. Hi! What! You think Canadians are SOCIALISTS? You Svine! Tom C. Tom, please explain yourself! Are you joking or are you being serious? Thanks. Boris Whichever, I want some of what he's been drinking for the last few hours. mike too sober at work - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO: Sand Pile
Errr, make that 13X. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile Tom, for reference, that shot is almost full frame, from the *ist D with a 1.4 converter and an FA 300mm f4.5, sooo that would be 630mm or approx 16 X. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile Ken, I tend to agree that this one leaves me feeling non-commital or empty. It is definitely very abstract. I'm having a problem determining if it is a telephoto view of the dunes or a telephoto view of some of the ripples in the sandy creek bed that runs in front of them. Was there numerous times as a child. Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 00:02:13 +0100 Kenneth, I usually adore your photographs, but I just haven't been able to form an opinion about this one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it has the Waller trademark of being more than the sum of its considerable parts, but somehow I just haven't been able to relate to it. I suspect I would like to see it ten feet wide on a wall somewhere to appreciate it properly. John On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:33:55 +0100, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Doug, thanks for commenting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Sand Pile On 10/3/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out - http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comment solicited, what strikes you? yea, nay, or indifferent Thanks in advance for commenting. It doesn't look like a dune to me. It doesn't really look like anything but an abstract design, and that's even after being told what it is. Sure as hell is cool, though. Yea! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Some *good* news, BTW
Definitely good news! I've known Don since 1971 or so, when I owned a camera shop and Don was my Nikon rep. Yes, he used to work for the dreaded N camera!! He's one of the good guys in the photo industry and I wish him the very best. Bob On Friday, October 7, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer survivor as of Tuesday.
Re: FS FRIDAY - SMC PENTAX - A 50mm/2.0
I'm wondering how a lens could sin... :-) Godfrey On Oct 7, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: this one's in great contrition, makes for a nice portrait lens in the D siblings, comes with FR caps. $25.00 plus shipping contact off list please.
Re: OT: update
Frank .. Sorry to hear about the accident. Get well soon. On Oct 7, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Did you really have to do that? Maybe not, but I've broken my collarbone once and had a couple of occasions with a dislocated shoulder, torn rotator cuff, etc. In all cases, it was better to go to work and 'get on with it' than to sit at home and be bored minding the hurt. It's not like being sick or having massive amounts of physical trauma draining your energy: it just hurts, and restricts your movement somewhat. I got to be pretty good at typing one handed ... up to 35 wpm. :-) Godfrey
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
Sorry to hear this, Frank; glad it wasn't any worse and that the timing is such that it happened when you are no longer riding for a living (i.e., you'll probably be able to go back to work before you're able to ride again.) Get well soon! ERNR frank theriault wrote: well, today started with a bang! i got hit by a car making an illegal turn, while riding to work this morning. ambulance took me to hospital, and x-rays showed two breaks to my collar-bone. on tylenol 3, left arm in sling - no cast. hurt like hell this afternoon, a bit better now, but still hurts a lot. bike frame is okay, front wheel and fork are toast. bloody cop charged me for no bell and no rear brake (which i'm going to fight) even though she was 100% at fault - that's $200 in fines, and i'm the victim! i'm okay, though; shoulder should heal fine, but with a really big bump. i'll know how long when i go to the fracture clinic in a few days. i'll be talking to a lawyer, as i want to get her insurance to fix my bike and pay 4 missed work. i'll try going to work tomorrow to see how it goes. think i'll be off my bikes for a while. i think, quite seriously, had i not been wearing a helmet, i might be seriously injured or dead. road rash on my left cheek and ear, big dent on my helmet right over the temple. as it is, not even a headache! more details later when i can type with 2 hands vbg. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: update
Frank...Is it possible to type with two hands and various fingers? WOUGH!! Serious healing wishes. Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st, thanks to everyone for your wishes. after a mostly sleepless night, i decided to go to work, where i am now. shoulder's still sore as hell, but it's better than yesterday, which must be good. won't be posting too much today, 'cause typing with just one hand is just too slow, but i'll be reading, so watch what you say LOL luckily most of my dispatch work is done with the numberpad and mouse, so i can work right-handed... 20 minutes until my next dose o' drugs - woo hoo! -knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Some *good* news, BTW
On Friday, October 7, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer survivor as of Tuesday. Good for Don!
Re: Some *good* news, BTW
I've sent my congrats and well wishes to Don, but I'm glad to offer more here. You know, if I had not met Don at Spartanburg Camera lo these many years ago, the PDML would not exist as it does now, the gatherings at GFM would not have happened, and many of the friendships we have formed would not have formed, so Don, for these and so many other reasons, will always be my brother. I think of him several times a day, and consider myself honored to be able to call him my friend. Mark Roberts wrote: Grandfather Mountain photomeister Don Nelson finished his chemotherapy for Hodgkin's Lymphoma a couple of weeks ago. Three days ago (Tuesday) he got the results of his post-chemo PET scan (Positron Emission Tomography, I believe - hope it doesn't fog his film so to speak g). They found no hot spots, so he's in the clear. They're probably going to want to keep an eye on him for a while, given his age (well, he *is* retired now!) but he's officially a cancer survivor as of Tuesday. Looking forward to seeing him at the mountain in June. How 'bout the rest of you?
Re: OT: matching shoulders g
P. J. Alling wrote: And some people don't recognize the sarcasm about his getting a ticket unless you hold up a sign. keith_w wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: You really got to be more careful. [...] You're so seldom (at least blatantly) sarcastic, I didn't give it much thought. My error, sir... keith
Re: matching shoulders g
Mark Roberts wrote: Keith whaley wrote: Speaking of helmets, our local motorcycle shop has about 8 used helmets hung up above their accessories counter, showing how much abrasion a helmet takes. A couple of the full face helmets which were almost completely worn thru by rough pavement make you a real believer! Had that been a helmetless rider, if he didn't die from the terrible road contact, he would have been disfigured and have gone thru so much plastic surgery! No, helmets are truly essential pieces of gear. People, even bikers, tend to assume that helmets are only for impact protection. Man, *friction* can be a killer too! I crashed my FZR 400 at Pocono Raceway once and, though I didn't hit my head hard, I'd have shaved off my beard and then some without that helmet! Your points are all well taken. I've read in serious cycling magazines about how many riders wear a full set of leathers all summer long too. Screw the heat! It's losing yards of skin that gives you the willies! All you need is once. Doesn't really matter who was at fault, does it... keith when I think of the years before general public availability and acceptance of helmets, back when I wore a Harley Davidson soft cap and moccasins... well, it just makes me shudder to think of how vulnerable I really was! At the beginning of every race weekend you have to take your motorcycle to tech inspection so they can certify that it's raceworthy. One weekend I was camped right next to the tech inspection area so I just hopped on and rode it up there without putting my helmet on. Maybe 50 yards distance at about 5 mph, mostly over grass but it still gave me the creeps. I walked it back!
