Re: New K bodies listed on BH

2006-06-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 The subject line says it all -

 $619.00 for the K100D with SR,
 $519.00 for the K110D w/out SR

 Bodies only
 Expected delivery in July and August respectively

Good! Seems like Pentax is delivering as promised ... BH generally  
list only when they have been given confidence that product will be  
in. Thanks for letting us know.

Godfrey

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Re: Limited Thoughts

2006-06-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 23, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

 P.S. Complicating things, it is just possible that there is a DA 30  
 F??
 in the wings.

Joe, you've mentioned this a couple of times. Where are you getting  
this rumor, or are you starting it? There is no such lens on the  
Pentax roadmap that they've published through 2006 and into 2007 so far.

Godfrey

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Re: Limited Thoughts

2006-06-24 Thread David Mann
On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:13 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 So, my question is - are the limited lenses truly worth it?  Beyond
 the cachet of owning one - will there be a marked improvement in my
 images?

The 43mm is the only Limited lens I have, and it's the only lens I've  
ever bought new.

The main reason why I bought mine was for the build.  I loved the all- 
metal finish and the high-quality feel.  I wanted an AF normal  
lens, which meant a choice between ordering the 43 Limited or the  
FA50 at about half the price.  Because I'd use it mostly in manual  
focus, I decided the Limited was the way to go (it helped that the  
distributor let me borrow it for a week).  This lens on the front of  
a K2 is one of my all-time favourite combinations.

At the time I had a colleague who also used Pentax, and I had a  
difficult time trying to convince him that I was willing to spend the  
extra money so I could enjoy using my gear.  He always placed a lot  
of emphasis on cost, where I'd usually put more weight on other factors.

At this point I'd say that I'd rather have a few wonderful lenses  
than a lot of good ones, but when I look at my camera shelf I think  
I may have overdone it a bit :)

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Re: Limited Thoughts

2006-06-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I owned the FA31/1.8 Limited. I found it an excellent performer  
overall, but several things about it annoyed me (size, weight, the  
clumsy fixed lens hood, the irritating lens cap). I sold it and later  
bought the FA35/2.

The latter is 1/3 the price and 95% as good a performer as the 31  
Limited. It's about half the weight, much smaller in size, and takes  
standard filters and hood attachments without any problems. I prefer  
how it feels in my hands over the 31. Yes, the 31 has slightly better  
oof rendering ... but I'll still take the 35/2.

The 77 is the only one of the FA series Limiteds that has much appeal  
to me. I debated buying it ... they're not cheap ... because I hadn't  
been using this focal length much and I really really would like the  
DA lens mount for the QuickShift focusing feature. But the  
opportunity and the rebate together were too compelling. Aside from  
the dumb lens cap and built in sliding lens hood (inadequate and  
bound to get loose over time), it's a marvelous lens and worth the  
loss of QuickShift focusing. I fixed the lens cap and hood problem  
(clip on lens cap, B+W metal screw-in telephoto lens hood...).

Whether the focal length mix is really the best for the 16x24 format  
or not is a bit of a toss up. 21 is only ok in my book ... I really  
would like a 25-28mm f/1.4 that wasn't a monster ... 70-77mm is  
pretty good if a little long sometimes. 31 is an oddball (between  
normal and wide-normal), so is 40 on this sensor (long normal? ;-).

All together, I'm happy with the 77, didn't care enough for the 31 to  
keep it, and keep hoping for a faster 28mm that remains compact.

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Re: Limited Thoughts

2006-06-24 Thread David Savage
On 6/24/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, my question is - are the limited lenses truly worth it?  Beyond
 the cachet of owning one - will there be a marked improvement in my
 images?

Yes  Yes :-)

I have both the 31  77  I don't regret getting ether one.

They won't help you take better pictures, that's the photographers
job, but due to the characteristics of the lenses you will, IMO, see a
noticeable quality difference.

Whether they are good value for you is something only you can judge.

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Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/6/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Lets compare the PUG to a nice cool clean glass of water.  A few seagulls 
fly over and poop in it.  Is that glass of water as nice now? :-) 

Tom, the time will soon be here when some very nice men will come and
bring you a nice white jacket and escort you away to a nice place where
other people with the same ideas as you live  ;-)

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Re: Small GFM gallery

2006-06-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/6/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm trying Google's Picasa with a free web gallery.
Here's something from our trip to GFM this year.
Let me know how the site works for you.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/GrandfatherMountain

Much better than flickr, nice gallery too. Rock and View's my pick. Well done.

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Re: AF 1.7 converter

2006-06-24 Thread Powell Hargrave

It should work fine.  This was taken with the Pentax f 70-210 4-5.6 and 
the AF1.7x on film.
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PAW_--_Gull_in_Flight.html
P. J. Alling

Very nice.

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Re: PESO -Taxi with a Checkered Past

2006-06-24 Thread Powell Hargrave
Interesting find.  Is it a limo or a station wagon?  Seems to have 12 roof
pillars.

Powell


It was taken on an overcast day, the paint on the car and the buildings are
faded.  I could have adjusted numerous elements to make a nice, bright
photo, but on my monitor it looks like the scene looked, a little worn,
tired, dreary, but not at all lacking in contrast.  I can even see details
of the undercarriage, the grass beneath the car, some details in the tire
treads, and inside the vehicle all the way through the rear window to the
building in the back.  IOW, it looks just fine here ...

Shel

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Panorama: Midsummer i Denmark

2006-06-24 Thread Jens Bladt
Midsummer in Denmark is celebrated by building thousands of fires on the
beach - we symbolically burn our witches!

For those of you who don't mind modern technology and images made for the IT
media - I have posted a panorama showing how we celebrate midsummer in
Denmark:
http://www.jensbladt.dk/pano/Sct-Hans-G.html

Equipment: *istD, SMC-A 2.8/20mm. Manfrotto 190B w. leveling base and a
Kaidan Kiwi-L panorama head.
Images and panorama processed in Phase One LE, Photoshop CS, Neat Image and
PhotoVista Panorama 3.5, Namo Web Editor.

Godfrey may choose to use the stop button to stop the image from rotating

All
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk


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RE: AF 1.7 converter

2006-06-24 Thread Jens Bladt
John, I paid 67 BGP including shipping for mine 2 years ago. I suspect it's
100-200 USD.
Anything below 100-150 USD is a steal. It's a brilliant tool, BTW.
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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Emne: AF 1.7 converter


Anyone have any ideas on current prices for this?  I just searched Ebay with
no luck on current auctions.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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Re: New K bodies listed on BH

2006-06-24 Thread John Whittingham
 The subject line says it all -
 
 $619.00 for the K100D with SR,
 $519.00 for the K110D w/out SR
 
 Bodies only
 
 Expected delivery in July and August respectively


Suspiciously, there are two K100D's listed on a website here in the UK right 
now! I think we all know which site I'm referring to. It's very tempting at 
£375 body only!

John

John Whittingham

Technician

you can't be optimistic with a misty optic

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Subject: New K bodies listed on BH

 The subject line says it all -
 
 $619.00 for the K100D with SR,
 $519.00 for the K110D w/out SR
 
 Bodies only
 
 Expected delivery in July and August respectively
 
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Re: Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Alas  - I have no comptent handy person nearby to give it
 too...
 But this isn't, after all, a mechanical camera - and it is
 sealed, not a
 DSLR.  
 
 and Canon had it for a whole month before letting me know
 they couldnt fix it
 actually, Photo tech called them to nudge them -
 
 I don't do electronics - although I can screw in a light
 bulb.
 
 i'm gonna just buy a DL and be done with it
 Rob is gonna be saying I told you so - but the prices were
 still to high last year.
 
 The one thing is, The DL will give me more detail and I can
 use myold PEntax glass.
 

I recommend the DS if you can find one cheap enough.  With that, you can also 
use your old Pentax flashes - not with the DL.

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Re: Limited Thoughts

2006-06-24 Thread Leon Altoff
We have the 43 and 77 - my wife actually owns them but I use them more.

I have the FA50/1.4 and prefer the 43 most of the time to the point 
where it now lives on the bellows.  The slightly wider field of view 
just seems to be right more often and the pictures have a different, 
preferable to me, feel.

I've never tried the 85/1.4, but I've seen it and it's huge!  The 77 is 
compact well made and again has a wonderful feel to the images it 
produces.  It also has a narrow enough depth of field and is sharp 
enough wide open for portraits.  I like it when I get the chance to use it.

The 31/35 mm lens is one I've never used much, I tend to go wider.  Even 
the switch to digital hasn't made me want a prime in this range - the 
16-45 does get used across the entire range however.

  Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


Bruce Dayton wrote:
 At one time, I owned the 43mm Limited.  While it was mechanically very
 nice, I can't say that it was obviously an optically better lens than
 the FA 50/1.4.  But it costs twice as much.
 
 The 31 limited costs about 2-3 times as much as the FA 35/2.  Again,
 how much - if any - better is it optically?
 
 The 77 limited seems to be the one exception for now.  The closest
 thing to it was the FA *85/1.4.  The 77 was cheaper and seemed to be a
 better all around lens.
 
 So, my question is - are the limited lenses truly worth it?  Beyond
 the cachet of owning one - will there be a marked improvement in my
 images?
 
 Now what complicates things a bit is the new DA limiteds.  They are
 priced more competitively.  It almost seems like for the digital
 sensor, the new 21, 40 and 70 might be a better triplet than the old
 31, 43, 77.
 
 I'd like to hear what others think.
 
 

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Re: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)

2006-06-24 Thread mike wilson
8-))

At work, and occasionally elsewhere, I'm using a really crappy webmail 
interface supplied courtesy of my ISP.Although I can configure permanently 
how mails appear to me, there appears to be no way to do it with outgoing 
stuff.  I don't want to use a proper email programme when I'm away from my home 
machine, as I store stuff on that.  I assume that the extra Re: is part of 
this problem.  _If I remember_ I try to do things like add carriage returns and 
get rid of excess footers but I'm getting old and I also get caught up in 
conversations so I tend to forget.

So, in advance, I apologise to those who have difficulty with my posts and I 
will try to do better in future.

m


 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/06/23 Fri PM 10:23:19 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
 
 Off topic, but Mike.
 When you reply to a post you almost always adds an extra RE: in the subject
 line. It's not a big deal, but it's a bit annoying.
 I'm an Outlook user, and I tend to sort the posts by topic when reading a
 thread. This means that I can read the thread one post after the other. But
 not your replies. The result is that I very often read you out of context.
 Intelligent as many of your replies are, I have to go to the deleted folder
 to find the post you replied to.
 
 I guess it is you mail program that creates this extra Re:, but can you find
 a way around this please?
 
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
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  Sent: 16. juni 2006 10:05
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  Subject: Re: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
  
  
  
   From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Now that you've described it fully, yes it seems normal, that's exactly
   how my DS works.  It half sleeps and has to be awakened with a kiss to
   it shutter button before it will respond to the AE lock button.
  
  Thanks.  I missed some posts from last night so this will be a catchall
  answer.  Every camera I have owned up to now has
  had either just a meter or had other electronics that sleep
  at the same time as the meter.  When I saw the LCD still
  activated on the DL2, I assumed that the beast was awake
  completely.  Hence my concern that metering apparently
  didn't work on pressing the AE-L button.  Being four-eyed,
  I cannot see the whole of the information in the viewfinder
  and, even when looking for it, often find it hard to discern
  against background illumination.
  
  Now; why should the camera have separate alive times for
  the meter and everything else?  Just a power saver?
  
  m
  
  
   mike wilson wrote:
  
   Brand new and freshly recharged.  Might not be up to full capacity.
   
   It's very consistent now.  Turn off and on; no stopdown.  Half press
  shutter; works.  Between 5 and 10 seconds later; stopped working.  Half
  press; back again.
   
   Does everyone else's kludge work as soon as the camera is turned on?
  Does it stop before the camera sleeps?
   
   
   
   
   From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2006/06/15 Thu AM 10:17:02 GMT
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
   Subject: Re: My kludge is broken
   
   Your batteries are bad. Buy some lithiums and be done with it.
   Paul
   On Jun 15, 2006, at 4:59 AM, mike wilson wrote:
   
   
   
   I think
   
   ist DL2.  I had the batteries out for some time, charging.  When I
   mounted a plain vanilla K lens, the AE-L button would not stop it
  down
   for a reading.  Tried a couple of different ones, made sure it was in
   manual; no effect.
   
   Went into the menu and checked that aperture ring use was allowed;
   tick.  It's the default, anyway.
   
   Came out of the menu and it worked.
   
   Switch it off and on; doesn't work.  Touch the shutter button; works.
   Leave it five seconds; doesn't work, even though the display is still
   working.
   
   Now, I'm nervous.
   
   m
  
  
  
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Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Bob W
Hi,

on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
examples which show this:

http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm

There are other examples.

I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
a scanning problem. 

Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
development problem.

Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
camera problem. 

This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
it, if I'm correct.

Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
technician.

Thanks,
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RE: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Don Sanderson
What model camera Bob?
How are the film door light seals?

Don

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 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:39 AM
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 Subject: Problem with uneven illumination
 
 
 Hi,
 
 on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
 illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
 significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
 examples which show this:
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm
 
 There are other examples.
 
 I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
 a scanning problem. 
 
 Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
 development problem.
 
 Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
 camera problem. 
 
 This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
 lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
 used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
 it, if I'm correct.
 
 Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
 established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
 anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
 help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
 technician.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread John Forbes
Now we're all itching to know what was so important.

John

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Robert and Leigh Woerner  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pleeaase!

 Sorry. I was rather abrupt but I get that way when I'm excited about
 telling somebody something, so there. Hah!

 Robert :-))


 John Forbes wrote:
 Robert is a man of few words, and none of them seem to be please.

 John

 On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:24:41 +0100, Robert and Leigh Woerner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Ann,

 Email me off list ASAP.

 Robert Woerner

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Shel Belinkoff wrote:


 Check out buydig.com while deciding when/where to make your purchase.
 A
 few of us on the list have purchased from them and were very happy  
 with
 service and price.

 http://tinyurl.com/hosft

 Shel


 Actually, there are several places I can walk to that have
 the DL for a little over
 $400

 But I need to go to New Jersey to save on sales tax, I
 think

 I don't buy things on line except as a last resort
 and it is a disaster to deliver anything here, too.

 By MOnday I should have a new camera

 ann




 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele

 i'm gonna just buy a DL and be done with it
 Rob is gonna be saying I told you so - but the prices were
 still to high last year.

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RE: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Bob W
Leica M4-2.
Don't know. Does it have a film door? To load the camera you take off
the bottom plate. If it was a problem with the camera I would expect
it to show the same thing on each frame.

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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Don Sanderson
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 Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
 
 What model camera Bob?
 How are the film door light seals?
 
 Don
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  Bob W
  Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:39 AM
  To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
  Subject: Problem with uneven illumination
  
  
  Hi,
  
  on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
  illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
  significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
  examples which show this:
  
  http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
  http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
  http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm
  
  There are other examples.
  
  I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, 
 so it is not
  a scanning problem. 
  
  Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
  development problem.
  
  Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
  camera problem. 
  
  This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps
the
  lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
  used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should
establish
  it, if I'm correct.
  
  Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this 
 problem? Once I've
  established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but
if
  anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it
would
  help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for 
 the repair
  technician.
  
  Thanks,
  Bob
  
  
  
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RE: Your Favorite Zoom Lens

2006-06-24 Thread Jens Bladt
No doubt:
Tokina AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm and an equally often used zoom is the FA*
2.8/80-200mm ED IF.
Next runner up must be the small SMC-F 4/24-50mm
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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Emne: Re: Your Favorite Zoom Lens


Hi Bruce,

Please see my reply to Boris' message and similar question.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Bruce Dayton

 You didn't indicate what basic range you are interested in.  Are you
 looking for an ultrawide-wide, wide-short tele, short tele-long tele,
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RE: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)

2006-06-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Mike, most e-mail clients, including Outlook and Outlook Express have
an option to Leave a copy of messages on server.
That way you could use it from work and still recieve all messages
at home. That's what I do.

Don (Hates web-mail)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 mike wilson
 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:46 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)


 8-))

 At work, and occasionally elsewhere, I'm using a really crappy
 webmail interface supplied courtesy of my ISP.Although I can
 configure permanently how mails appear to me, there appears to be
 no way to do it with outgoing stuff.  I don't want to use a
 proper email programme when I'm away from my home machine, as I
 store stuff on that.  I assume that the extra Re: is part of
 this problem.  _If I remember_ I try to do things like add
 carriage returns and get rid of excess footers but I'm getting
 old and I also get caught up in conversations so I tend to forget.

 So, in advance, I apologise to those who have difficulty with my
 posts and I will try to do better in future.

 m


 
  From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/06/23 Fri PM 10:23:19 GMT
  To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
 
  Off topic, but Mike.
  When you reply to a post you almost always adds an extra RE: in
 the subject
  line. It's not a big deal, but it's a bit annoying.
  I'm an Outlook user, and I tend to sort the posts by topic when
 reading a
  thread. This means that I can read the thread one post after
 the other. But
  not your replies. The result is that I very often read you out
 of context.
  Intelligent as many of your replies are, I have to go to the
 deleted folder
  to find the post you replied to.
 
  I guess it is you mail program that creates this extra Re:, but
 can you find
  a way around this please?
 
 
  Tim
  Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
  Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
  (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of
   mike wilson
   Sent: 16. juni 2006 10:05
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
   Subject: Re: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
  
  
   
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Now that you've described it fully, yes it seems normal,
 that's exactly
how my DS works.  It half sleeps and has to be awakened
 with a kiss to
it shutter button before it will respond to the AE lock button.
  
   Thanks.  I missed some posts from last night so this will be
 a catchall
   answer.  Every camera I have owned up to now has
   had either just a meter or had other electronics that sleep
   at the same time as the meter.  When I saw the LCD still
   activated on the DL2, I assumed that the beast was awake
   completely.  Hence my concern that metering apparently
   didn't work on pressing the AE-L button.  Being four-eyed,
   I cannot see the whole of the information in the viewfinder
   and, even when looking for it, often find it hard to discern
   against background illumination.
  
   Now; why should the camera have separate alive times for
   the meter and everything else?  Just a power saver?
  
   m
  
   
mike wilson wrote:
   
Brand new and freshly recharged.  Might not be up to full capacity.

It's very consistent now.  Turn off and on; no stopdown.
 Half press
   shutter; works.  Between 5 and 10 seconds later; stopped
 working.  Half
   press; back again.

Does everyone else's kludge work as soon as the camera is
 turned on?
   Does it stop before the camera sleeps?




From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/06/15 Thu AM 10:17:02 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: My kludge is broken

Your batteries are bad. Buy some lithiums and be done with it.
Paul
On Jun 15, 2006, at 4:59 AM, mike wilson wrote:



I think

ist DL2.  I had the batteries out for some time,
 charging.  When I
mounted a plain vanilla K lens, the AE-L button would not stop it
   down
for a reading.  Tried a couple of different ones, made
 sure it was in
manual; no effect.

Went into the menu and checked that aperture ring use
 was allowed;
tick.  It's the default, anyway.

Came out of the menu and it worked.

Switch it off and on; doesn't work.  Touch the shutter
 button; works.
Leave it five seconds; doesn't work, even though the
 display is still
working.

Now, I'm nervous.

m
  
  
  
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Re: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread John Forbes
Second shutter curtain slowing down at the end of its travel?  Perhaps  
only occurring at certain shutter speeds?  Course, with digi, you could  
check the exif data to see the speed!

John

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:39:11 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
 illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
 significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
 examples which show this:

 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm

 There are other examples.

 I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
 a scanning problem.

 Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
 development problem.

 Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
 camera problem.

 This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
 lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
 used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
 it, if I'm correct.

 Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
 established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
 anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
 help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
 technician.

 Thanks,
 Bob






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RE: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Sorry Bob, I was assuming Pentax. ;-)
Don't know much about Leicas but a light leak can cause wierd things,
different effects depending on light direction, etc.
Also if the camera has a horizontal run shutter the trailing shutter
curtain may be hesitating at the start of it's run.
Pretty common on Pentax Spotmatics and some K Series cameras.
I also have a FED (Leica clone) that does this after not being
used for a while.

HTH
Don


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Bob W
 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:58 AM
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
 
 
 Leica M4-2.
 Don't know. Does it have a film door? To load the camera you take off
 the bottom plate. If it was a problem with the camera I would expect
 it to show the same thing on each frame.
 
 --
 Cheers,
  Bob 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Don Sanderson
  Sent: 24 June 2006 10:55
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
  
  What model camera Bob?
  How are the film door light seals?
  
  Don
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
   Bob W
   Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:39 AM
   To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
   Subject: Problem with uneven illumination
   
   
   Hi,
   
   on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
   illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
   significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
   examples which show this:
   
   http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
   http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
   http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm
   
   There are other examples.
   
   I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, 
  so it is not
   a scanning problem. 
   
   Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
   development problem.
   
   Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
   camera problem. 
   
   This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps
 the
   lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
   used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should
 establish
   it, if I'm correct.
   
   Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this 
  problem? Once I've
   established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but
 if
   anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it
 would
   help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for 
  the repair
   technician.
   
   Thanks,
   Bob
   
   
   
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RE: PESO -Taxi with a Checkered Past

2006-06-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Nice Shel, I like it a lot.
Lighting looks good here for the conditions you describe.
Car must have a lot of stories to tell. ;-)

Don

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 Shel Belinkoff
 Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:20 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: PESO -Taxi with a Checkered Past


 http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/taxi1.html

 Something a little more conventional 

 Leica M2, 35mm Summicron (4th Version), some kind of med speed Fuji film.

 Comments, crits welcome ...


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Re: Small GFM gallery

2006-06-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/06/24 Sat AM 01:31:46 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],  PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Small GFM gallery
 
 I'm trying Google's Picasa with a free web gallery.
 Here's something from our trip to GFM this year.
 Let me know how the site works for you.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/GrandfatherMountain
 

Works perfectly on a 233Mhz laptop using NS7.2


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RE: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/06/24 Sat AM 10:15:33 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
 
 Sorry Bob, I was assuming Pentax. ;-)
 Don't know much about Leicas but a light leak can cause wierd things,
 different effects depending on light direction, etc.
 Also if the camera has a horizontal run shutter the trailing shutter
 curtain may be hesitating at the start of it's run.
 Pretty common on Pentax Spotmatics and some K Series cameras.
 I also have a FED (Leica clone) that does this after not being
 used for a while.
 

I second the shutter suggestion.  The twice I have seen this, it was more 
consistent and the deliniation was sharper but it seems to fit the signs.
 HTH
 Don
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  Bob W
  Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:58 AM
  To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
  Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
  
  
  Leica M4-2.
  Don't know. Does it have a film door? To load the camera you take off
  the bottom plate. If it was a problem with the camera I would expect
  it to show the same thing on each frame.
  
  --
  Cheers,
   Bob 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
   Behalf Of Don Sanderson
   Sent: 24 June 2006 10:55
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
   Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
   
   What model camera Bob?
   How are the film door light seals?
   
   Don
   
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Bob W
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:39 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: Problem with uneven illumination


Hi,

on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
examples which show this:

http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm




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Re: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Vic Mortelmans
I'd rather say the first curtain slowing down at the end of it's travel, 
causing the second to catch up and the left side of the picture being 
underexposed.

Groeten,

Vic

John Forbes wrote:
 Second shutter curtain slowing down at the end of its travel?  Perhaps  
 only occurring at certain shutter speeds?  Course, with digi, you could  
 check the exif data to see the speed!
 
 John
 
 On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:39:11 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
Hi,

on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
examples which show this:

http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm

There are other examples.

I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
a scanning problem.

Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
development problem.

Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
camera problem.

This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
it, if I'm correct.

Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
technician.

Thanks,
Bob



 
 
 
 

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RE: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread mike wilson
It might be related to shutter speed.

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/06/24 Sat AM 09:57:44 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
 
 Leica M4-2.
 Don't know. Does it have a film door? To load the camera you take off
 the bottom plate. If it was a problem with the camera I would expect
 it to show the same thing on each frame.
 
 --
 Cheers,
  Bob 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Don Sanderson
  Sent: 24 June 2006 10:55
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: RE: Problem with uneven illumination
  
  What model camera Bob?
  How are the film door light seals?
  
  Don
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
   Bob W
   Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:39 AM
   To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
   Subject: Problem with uneven illumination
   
   
   Hi,
   
   on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
   illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
   significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
   examples which show this:
   
   http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
   http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
   http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm
   
   There are other examples.
   
   I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, 
  so it is not
   a scanning problem. 
   
   Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
   development problem.
   
   Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
   camera problem. 
   
   This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps
 the
   lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
   used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should
 establish
   it, if I'm correct.
   
   Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this 
  problem? Once I've
   established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but
 if
   anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it
 would
   help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for 
  the repair
   technician.
   
   Thanks,
   Bob
   
   
   
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RE: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)

2006-06-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/06/24 Sat AM 10:03:00 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
 
 Mike, most e-mail clients, including Outlook and Outlook Express have
 an option to Leave a copy of messages on server.
 That way you could use it from work and still recieve all messages
 at home. That's what I do.
 
 Don (Hates web-mail)

I might have to overcome my revulsion for MS products, or, more specifically, 
their predeliction for phoning home.

Weirdly, this post has not generated an extra RE:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  mike wilson
  Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:46 AM
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: Re: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
 
 
  8-))
 
  At work, and occasionally elsewhere, I'm using a really crappy
  webmail interface supplied courtesy of my ISP.Although I can
  configure permanently how mails appear to me, there appears to be
  no way to do it with outgoing stuff.  I don't want to use a
  proper email programme when I'm away from my home machine, as I
  store stuff on that.  I assume that the extra Re: is part of
  this problem.  _If I remember_ I try to do things like add
  carriage returns and get rid of excess footers but I'm getting
  old and I also get caught up in conversations so I tend to forget.
 
  So, in advance, I apologise to those who have difficulty with my
  posts and I will try to do better in future.
 
  m
 
 
  
   From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2006/06/23 Fri PM 10:23:19 GMT
   To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
   Subject: RE:RE: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
  
   Off topic, but Mike.
   When you reply to a post you almost always adds an extra RE: in
  the subject
   line. It's not a big deal, but it's a bit annoying.
   I'm an Outlook user, and I tend to sort the posts by topic when
  reading a
   thread. This means that I can read the thread one post after
  the other. But
   not your replies. The result is that I very often read you out
  of context.
   Intelligent as many of your replies are, I have to go to the
  deleted folder
   to find the post you replied to.
  
   I guess it is you mail program that creates this extra Re:, but
  can you find
   a way around this please?
  
  
   Tim
   Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
   Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
   (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of
mike wilson
Sent: 16. juni 2006 10:05
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Re: My kludge is broken (further question)
   
   

 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Now that you've described it fully, yes it seems normal,
  that's exactly
 how my DS works.  It half sleeps and has to be awakened
  with a kiss to
 it shutter button before it will respond to the AE lock button.
   
Thanks.  I missed some posts from last night so this will be
  a catchall
answer.  Every camera I have owned up to now has
had either just a meter or had other electronics that sleep
at the same time as the meter.  When I saw the LCD still
activated on the DL2, I assumed that the beast was awake
completely.  Hence my concern that metering apparently
didn't work on pressing the AE-L button.  Being four-eyed,
I cannot see the whole of the information in the viewfinder
and, even when looking for it, often find it hard to discern
against background illumination.
   
Now; why should the camera have separate alive times for
the meter and everything else?  Just a power saver?
   
m
   

 mike wilson wrote:

 Brand new and freshly recharged.  Might not be up to full capacity.
 
 It's very consistent now.  Turn off and on; no stopdown.
  Half press
shutter; works.  Between 5 and 10 seconds later; stopped
  working.  Half
press; back again.
 
 Does everyone else's kludge work as soon as the camera is
  turned on?
Does it stop before the camera sleeps?
 
 
 
 
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/06/15 Thu AM 10:17:02 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: My kludge is broken
 
 Your batteries are bad. Buy some lithiums and be done with it.
 Paul
 On Jun 15, 2006, at 4:59 AM, mike wilson wrote:
 
 
 
 I think
 
 ist DL2.  I had the batteries out for some time,
  charging.  When I
 mounted a plain vanilla K lens, the AE-L button would not stop it
down
 for a reading.  Tried a couple of different ones, made
  sure it was in
 manual; no effect.
 
 Went into the menu and checked that aperture ring use
  was allowed;
 tick.  It's the 

Re: Small GFM gallery

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 On 23/6/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I'm trying Google's Picasa with a free web gallery.
 Here's something from our trip to GFM this year.
 Let me know how the site works for you.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/GrandfatherMountain
 
 Much better than flickr, nice gallery too. Rock and View's my pick. Well done.

Ditto, on all counts...

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Re: The beauty of narrow DOF

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 I have come to appreciate the beauty of narrow DOF more, since I (yesterday)
 got the FA 1.8/77mm lens.
 Using narrow DOF often leads to not very sharp pictures, unless you use a
 very high quality lens.
 When using an extreemly hight quality lens and a narrow DOF, the results can
 easily be quite stunning, I think.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/173336922

Jens, try some portraits ;-).

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Re: The beauty of narrow DOF

2006-06-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 24.06.06, at 2:38 , Jens Bladt wrote:

 A 1.4/85mm IS very expensive. But I guess a FA 77mm does rather  
 well too, at
 lesser cost..

Used FA* 85/1.4 will be as good as A* version, but less expensive -  
rather around price of 77/1.8 Ltd ;-)

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Re: Panorama: Midsummer i Denmark

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Not loading anything over here Jens. :-(
Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Midsummer in Denmark is celebrated by building thousands of fires on the
 beach - we symbolically burn our witches!

 For those of you who don't mind modern technology and images made for the IT
 media - I have posted a panorama showing how we celebrate midsummer in
 Denmark:
 http://www.jensbladt.dk/pano/Sct-Hans-G.html

 Equipment: *istD, SMC-A 2.8/20mm. Manfrotto 190B w. leveling base and a
 Kaidan Kiwi-L panorama head.
 Images and panorama processed in Phase One LE, Photoshop CS, Neat Image and
 PhotoVista Panorama 3.5, Namo Web Editor.

 Godfrey may choose to use the stop button to stop the image from rotating

 All
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Re: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Check the aperture blades on the lens in question.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
 illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
 significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
 examples which show this:

 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm

 There are other examples.

 I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
 a scanning problem.

 Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
 development problem.

 Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
 camera problem.

 This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
 lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
 used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
 it, if I'm correct.

 Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
 established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
 anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
 help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
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Re: New K bodies listed on BH

2006-06-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/6/06, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:

Suspiciously, there are two K100D's listed on a website here in the UK right 
now! I think we all know which site I'm referring to. It's very tempting at 
£375 body only!

Which site is that John?

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread gfen
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, John Francis wrote:
 automatically during exposure.  And while metering has to be done
 stopped down, rather than at full aperture, a single push of a button
 will stop the lens down, take a meter reading, select an appropriate
 shutter speed, and open the aperture again.  This all happens faster
 than it just took you to read about it.

Alas, its just one more thing I'm stuck having to do, and it annoys me. 

Looks like I'm not quite ready to retire the MX or ZX5n yet. :)

What's the difference between the K100D and the K10D, and where are they 
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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:18 AM, gfen wrote:

 What's the difference between the K100D and the K10D, and where are 
 they
 pricing these things at?

 From Shel's BH post --

 $619.00 for the K100D with SR,
 $519.00 for the K110D w/out SR

The K100D has shake reduction, the K110D does not.  Otherwise, they are 
the same.

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread gfen
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
 We'll have to see about the K10D but the K100D seems to have the same 
 mount as the D/DS/DL/2...

Pentax has released this many digital cameras? Yow, I have been gone a 
long time...Although, I see most of the same names on the list as the last 
two times I've popped back to read it.

What became of the film line? Dead?

The Brotherhood? DIsbanded?

The Little Brotherhood, also dead I assume.. or did they actually put out 
some sort of MF/645 based digital thingy as rumoured last time I was 
'round here?

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Re: PESO -Taxi with a Checkered Past

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Jack,

Thanks for looking and noticing the light ... ;-))

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Jack Davis 

 Don't think I ever saw the original post. 
 This pleasing image came up with a soft cool subtle lighting. 
 Love the overcast day or moment.

 Jack

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 http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/taxi1.html
 

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:26 AM, gfen wrote:

 The Brotherhood? DIsbanded?

We've simply raised our rates.

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jun 24, 2006, at 4:56 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 With that, you can also use your old Pentax flashes - not with the DL

Just for clarity, this only applies to old Pentax TTL flashes.  If 
you're using old thyristor flashes, they'll work the same as they 
always did.

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Re: PESO -Taxi with a Checkered Past

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Powell,

Checker made a number of station wagons and limos.  Based on the number of
pillars, this one is most likely the 12 passenger Aerobus.  

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Powell Hargrave 

 Interesting find.  Is it a limo or a station wagon?  Seems to have 12 roof
 pillars.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/taxi1.html

 It was taken on an overcast day, the paint on the car and the buildings
are
 faded.  I could have adjusted numerous elements to make a nice, bright
 photo, but on my monitor it looks like the scene looked, a little worn,
 tired, dreary, but not at all lacking in contrast.  I can even see
details
 of the undercarriage, the grass beneath the car, some details in the tire
 treads, and inside the vehicle all the way through the rear window to the
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RE: PESO -Taxi with a Checkered Past

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Don,

Thanks for looking.  I may go back and see if I can get ahold of the owner.
Maybe leave a not on the windshield ...

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Don Sanderson

 Nice Shel, I like it a lot.
 Lighting looks good here for the conditions you describe.
 Car must have a lot of stories to tell. ;-)


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Re: New K bodies listed on BH

2006-06-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
This also suggests that the 10D will sell for a price similar to that 
of the D. Probably around $1200 at BH.
Paul
On Jun 24, 2006, at 2:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


 On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 The subject line says it all -

 $619.00 for the K100D with SR,
 $519.00 for the K110D w/out SR

 Bodies only
 Expected delivery in July and August respectively

 Good! Seems like Pentax is delivering as promised ... BH generally
 list only when they have been given confidence that product will be
 in. Thanks for letting us know.

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Re: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's a sticky shutter. Time for a CLA.
Paul
On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:39 AM, Bob W wrote:

 Hi,

 on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
 illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
 significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
 examples which show this:

 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm

 There are other examples.

 I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
 a scanning problem.

 Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
 development problem.

 Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
 camera problem.

 This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
 lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
 used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
 it, if I'm correct.

 Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
 established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
 anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
 help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
 technician.

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm sure they will all share the same mount.
Paul
On Jun 24, 2006, at 12:41 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 We'll have to see about the K10D but the K100D seems to have the same
 mount as the D/DS/DL/2...

 gfen wrote:

 What sort of mount does it use? Are M and A series lenses going to 
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Re: Small GFM gallery

2006-06-24 Thread graywolf
Mountain Laural is a Protected Species? I've never heard that one. Maybe 
you ought to come to the mountains sometime. You are in for a surprise.

Maybe it is tough to cultivate at lower altitudes, could be a reason 
they call it mountain laural? But then, I have seen it growing in 
peoples yards far from the mountains.

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread graywolf
Same price? Don't hesitate, get the DS.

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
There is still the Brotherhood, but I think there is a new head of the order -
Abbot Norm.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
  We'll have to see about the K10D but the K100D seems to have the same
  mount as the D/DS/DL/2...

 Pentax has released this many digital cameras? Yow, I have been gone a
 long time...Although, I see most of the same names on the list as the last
 two times I've popped back to read it.

 What became of the film line? Dead?

 The Brotherhood? DIsbanded?

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 some sort of MF/645 based digital thingy as rumoured last time I was
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Re: The beauty of narrow DOF

2006-06-24 Thread Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/173336922
 
 Jens, try some portraits ;-).

Boris,
that photo *is* a portrait.

vbg

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PESO - wood structures

2006-06-24 Thread Jostein

I figured I won't be doing this very often, so I stuck with a familiar 
acronym.

What I have committed is actually a 3.5 minutes slide show, over the 
theme of structures in old woodwork. It's my first attempt at 
assembling something like this, so if someone has the time to 
download, look and comment, I'd be most grateful.

I've tried to maintain a reasonable trade-off between image/sound 
quality and file size, but it's still a huge file; 23 MB! So don't try 
it on a dial-up.

URL: http://www.oksne.net/temp/Trestrukturer2-compressed.exe

It will only run on Microsoft platforms, with DirectX v9.0 or newer, 
and requires a graphic card with 3D rendering functionality. EXE-files 
is the only output option I have from the slide show software, which 
is the freeware version of Wings Platinum 2 from www.avstumpfl.com.

Hope this doesn't scare everyone away.

I'm only going to leave this up until Monday night, because there are 
copyright issues with the music. If someone is interested in the 
details about the music, I'm happy to fill you in off-list. Just give 
me a hint.

thanks,
Jostein 

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Re: Pug challenge

2006-06-24 Thread Jostein
So far I've kept my head down in the PUG threads, but there's 
something I'd like to say.

People like to get comments on their pictures.

Observe that ever since PESOs were introduced, they have harvested a 
lot more comments per image than have any PUG entry in the same 
period.

No wonder the PUG has waned.

What you guys are discussing are ways to make the PUG more interesting 
to people again. It's not gonna happen unless there is a community 
effort to make the images therein a topic of discussion!

There used to be a small handful of devotees that commented on the 
whole PUG. We have made several attempts to ensure that all images in 
the PUG gets at least one comment. None of the plans worked out. 
Interest continued to wane.

Unless someone can come up with a good incentive for photographers to 
actually contribute to the PUG, I'd say it's about time to let it die 
peacefully. Even good things have an end.

sincerely,
Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: PUG Challenge!


 Tom,

 Having high quality photos in the PUG is a good idea.
 Perhaps quality has declined since we went digital.
 It is easier to make a casual post to the PUG now,
 just resize and upload versus the process before.

 Somehow this doesn't square with the declining submissions.
 I think the PUG suffers from too many PESO's.
 Folks use this outlet instead of the PUG.
 I would rather that they use the PUG because
 the PESO comments are very disorganized.
 They trickle in over days and weeks causing me to reload photos.
 I can keep the PUG comments in one place and review at one time.

 I think it's admirable to talk about raising quality levels, but I
 remember the PUG discussions 3-5 years ago about rating photos (NO!)
 and I can imagine the uproar the idea of setting 2 or 3 judges up as
 gatekeepers for the Gallery.  It would go something like Who the 
 hell
 are these a**holes who are gonna tell me my picture is or isn't good
 enough to be included.

 That's why I suggested a new gallery of The PDML's Best.  Let folks
 nominate photos to a best gallery.  Those are my thoughts.

 And by the way, shouldn't we give folks like you who can walk out
 their door to spectacular scenery a handicap in any kind of gallery
 like this.  You can only use jpegs or medium quality or something...
 :-)  Maybe Bill Robb can help here.

 Regards,  Bob S.

 On 6/23/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So Tom,
 1)  If you've got this thing for a Pentax Photo Contest Gallery,
 why don't you start one?  If people like it, the gallery will 
 grow.
 I'll contribute, so would many others.
 2)  Please tell me what distinguished this gallery from all the 
 others
 available to post your photos on across the web?
 3)  No matter how I slice this, it comes off like your trying to 
 kill the
 PUG.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 Hi Bob,

 1) I don't think anyone was suggesting a contest gallery, per se. 
 There's a
 subtle differentiation.  A contest involves winners and losers, 
 usually a
 limited number of winners.  What I believe has been suggested is 
 that there
 be some criteria for making it into the gallery and that a select 
 number of
 people would decide whether a photo was included or not.  The 
 number of
 inclusions could be unlimited.

 I find it interesting to contemplate that apparently some would not 
 like
 others deciding whether their photo was 'good enough' to be in the 
 gallery,
 but apparently wouldn't mind submitting a picture to the gallery 
 that may be
 somewhat lacking, and then are willing to elicit negative comments 
 or
 constructive criticism about said same photo.

 It goes back to asking what a gallery is.  Is it a showcase or 
 simply a
 photo sharing mechanism?

 I actually did think of starting one.  My problem is I'm either so
 busy/lazy/procrastinating that I don't even have my own private 
 gallery
 created even though I started on it 6 month ago. :-(

 2) Having joined the PDML and having Pentax equipment, it was the 
 first I
 came across.

 3) I'm not trying to kill the PUG.  I am however suggesting ideas 
 to improve
 the quality of entries displayed.  It boils down to this simple 
 suggestion.
 If one just wants to share an interesting or fun picture, then by 
 all means
 show the list with a PAW or PESO or GESO.  If one thinks after 
 careful
 consideration that they have a really good photo that is successful 
 both
 technically and compositionally, then consider that one worthy of 
 display in
 the gallery.

 As you can see I'm not jamming this down anyone's throats.  I just 
 haven't
 dropped it yet. :-)


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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The Little Brotherhood, also dead I assume.. or did they actually 
 put out
 some sort of MF/645 based digital thingy as rumoured last time I was
 'round here?

Sisterhood, if you please. :-)

We sit on our hands, and save up for Christmas.


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Re: New K bodies listed on BH

2006-06-24 Thread John Whittingham
 Which site is that John?

I'm not going to put it in print on this list.

John

John Whittingham

Technician

you can't be optimistic with a misty optic

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Subject: Re: New K bodies listed on BH

 On 24/6/06, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Suspiciously, there are two K100D's listed on a website here in the UK 
right 
 now! I think we all know which site I'm referring to. It's very tempting 
at 
 £375 body only!
 
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Re: Limited Thoughts

2006-06-24 Thread Mishka
it's always possible to make things a little bit sloppier and a bit cheaper.
boils down to pereferences and available cash. i own 31 and 77 and love them.

best,
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Re: The beauty of narrow DOF

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/173336922
 Jens, try some portraits ;-).
 
 Boris,
 that photo *is* a portrait.

[western like voice]
You got me, partner ;-)...
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RE: Pug challenge (26 days to go!)

2006-06-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Your words, let it die peacefully should be all the incentive
we need if we wish not to lose the PUG.
A bit of a reality check.
I've only been around here for a couple of years but have really
enjoyed the PUG.
Up to this point I've felt unqualified to submit or comment.
However I've changed my thinking on this in several ways.
My photography usually falls into the snapshot category,
un-planned photos whenever and wherever.
I've realised that to become better, I need to plan and work 
photo projects.
PESOs and PAWs are not the correct venue for this, the PUG is.
I have commited to submit a pic to that most horrible theme,
architecture, I'm already learning how poor my approach to
photography has been.
I've spent a whopping $1.69 on a project notebook and am
actually using it. ;-)
I think merely having a submission will help me compare to, and
comment on, the other photos in the PUG.
Perhaps this line of thinking would motivate some others to
both submit and comment.

Come on folks, long live the PUG!

Don


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Jostein
 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:16 AM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pug challenge
 
 
 So far I've kept my head down in the PUG threads, but there's 
 something I'd like to say.
 
 People like to get comments on their pictures.
 
 Observe that ever since PESOs were introduced, they have harvested a 
 lot more comments per image than have any PUG entry in the same 
 period.
 
 No wonder the PUG has waned.
 
 What you guys are discussing are ways to make the PUG more interesting 
 to people again. It's not gonna happen unless there is a community 
 effort to make the images therein a topic of discussion!
 
 There used to be a small handful of devotees that commented on the 
 whole PUG. We have made several attempts to ensure that all images in 
 the PUG gets at least one comment. None of the plans worked out. 
 Interest continued to wane.
 
 Unless someone can come up with a good incentive for photographers to 
 actually contribute to the PUG, I'd say it's about time to let it die 
 peacefully. Even good things have an end.
 
 sincerely,
 Jostein
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:32 AM
 Subject: Re: PUG Challenge!
 
 
  Tom,
 
  Having high quality photos in the PUG is a good idea.
  Perhaps quality has declined since we went digital.
  It is easier to make a casual post to the PUG now,
  just resize and upload versus the process before.
 
  Somehow this doesn't square with the declining submissions.
  I think the PUG suffers from too many PESO's.
  Folks use this outlet instead of the PUG.
  I would rather that they use the PUG because
  the PESO comments are very disorganized.
  They trickle in over days and weeks causing me to reload photos.
  I can keep the PUG comments in one place and review at one time.
 
  I think it's admirable to talk about raising quality levels, but I
  remember the PUG discussions 3-5 years ago about rating photos (NO!)
  and I can imagine the uproar the idea of setting 2 or 3 judges up as
  gatekeepers for the Gallery.  It would go something like Who the 
  hell
  are these a**holes who are gonna tell me my picture is or isn't good
  enough to be included.
 
  That's why I suggested a new gallery of The PDML's Best.  Let folks
  nominate photos to a best gallery.  Those are my thoughts.
 
  And by the way, shouldn't we give folks like you who can walk out
  their door to spectacular scenery a handicap in any kind of gallery
  like this.  You can only use jpegs or medium quality or something...
  :-)  Maybe Bill Robb can help here.
 
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On 6/23/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  So Tom,
  1)  If you've got this thing for a Pentax Photo Contest Gallery,
  why don't you start one?  If people like it, the gallery will 
  grow.
  I'll contribute, so would many others.
  2)  Please tell me what distinguished this gallery from all the 
  others
  available to post your photos on across the web?
  3)  No matter how I slice this, it comes off like your trying to 
  kill the
  PUG.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  Hi Bob,
 
  1) I don't think anyone was suggesting a contest gallery, per se. 
  There's a
  subtle differentiation.  A contest involves winners and losers, 
  usually a
  limited number of winners.  What I believe has been suggested is 
  that there
  be some criteria for making it into the gallery and that a select 
  number of
  people would decide whether a photo was included or not.  The 
  number of
  inclusions could be unlimited.
 
  I find it interesting to contemplate that apparently some would not 
  like
  others deciding whether their photo was 'good enough' to be in the 
  gallery,
  but apparently wouldn't mind submitting a picture to the gallery 
  that may be
  somewhat 

PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

In Eilat it is +41C today. In Tel Aviv it is just above +30C but it is 
very humid and very hot.

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14154

My main question to you, dear viewer, is whether the heat of the day 
shows from the picture.

Brutal and honest comments are as usual wanted.

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Re: Panorama: Midsummer i Denmark

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Midsummer in Denmark is celebrated by building thousands of fires on the
 beach - we symbolically burn our witches!
 
 For those of you who don't mind modern technology and images made for the IT
 media - I have posted a panorama showing how we celebrate midsummer in
 Denmark:
 http://www.jensbladt.dk/pano/Sct-Hans-G.html
 
 Equipment: *istD, SMC-A 2.8/20mm. Manfrotto 190B w. leveling base and a
 Kaidan Kiwi-L panorama head.
 Images and panorama processed in Phase One LE, Photoshop CS, Neat Image and
 PhotoVista Panorama 3.5, Namo Web Editor.
 
 Godfrey may choose to use the stop button to stop the image from rotating

The only difference between Danes and Israelis is that when our people 
go to the beach they take their clothes off ;-).

I loads all right here.

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Re: PAW 2006 - 23 - GDG

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Been busy as heck and working on so many pictures ...
 
 This one, taken a couple of months ago, appealed to me strangely ...  
 it seems to be in a new aesthetic vein. I'm not entirely sure how  
 successful it is by itself.
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/23.htm
 
 The now-usual larger rendering is available when you click on the  
 image. :-)

Godfrey, I'd say it is successful... It makes one think and want to 
spend some time *watching* this work...

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread gfen
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, Jostein wrote:
 Sisterhood, if you please. :-)

Wait for it...No, I do not approve this namechange. :) I'll be sticking 
with Little Brother, thank you very much. ;)


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RE: PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

No, Boris, the heat of the day doesn't come through, at least not for me. 
That Cokin filter doesn't seem to add anything to the shot - maybe it's
better suited for some other situation.  Good exposure and processing. 
You've nicely preserved the detail in the white wall and the shadows under
the table.

Shel



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 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14154

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Re: PESO - Gooderham Flatiron.

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Shot this with an ancient Soligor Auto 35mm f2.8 screwmount lens on 
 Aaron's LX. It's the original flatiron building, Toronto's Gooderham 
 Building. One of my favourite subjects. Tri-X in Rodinal 1:25.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/170072183/
 
 And for those who dislike flickr, a large version via direct link:
 
 http://static.flickr.com/76/170072183_896883d68d_b.jpg

Adam, thanks for direct link, it is very thoughtful of you.

I should say I like the scene but on my screen it appears somewhat 
lacking in sharpness...

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
mike wilson wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 I recommend the DS if you can find one cheap enough.  With that, you can also 
 use your old Pentax flashes - not with the DL.
 
 m
 
 DL owner.
 

Hmmm DL owner recommends DS - h

Re flash:
I shot for about 30 years without even owning a flash - then
I got a ring light for
macro nature stuff..  finally got a Vivitar 285 and have
barely used it - I know it has
some practical uses, and I did use it for shooting some
stuff for ebay in a studio 
kind of setting, but basically I don't like it and don't
know what the hell I'm doing with
it.

Someone else said the viewfinder was better brighter on the
DS - that's a plus...

ann

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Id tell you, but it would be a lot less interesting that
what your imagination can do!

ann

John Forbes wrote:
 
 Now we're all itching to know what was so important.
 
 John
 
 On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Robert and Leigh Woerner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Pleeaase!
 
  Sorry. I was rather abrupt but I get that way when I'm excited about
  telling somebody something, so there. Hah!
 
  Robert :-))
 
 
  John Forbes wrote:
  Robert is a man of few words, and none of them seem to be please.
 
  John
 
  On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:24:41 +0100, Robert and Leigh Woerner
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Ann,
 
  Email me off list ASAP.
 
  Robert Woerner
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 
  Check out buydig.com while deciding when/where to make your purchase.
  A
  few of us on the list have purchased from them and were very happy
  with
  service and price.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/hosft
 
  Shel
 
 
  Actually, there are several places I can walk to that have
  the DL for a little over
  $400
 
  But I need to go to New Jersey to save on sales tax, I
  think
 
  I don't buy things on line except as a last resort
  and it is a disaster to deliver anything here, too.
 
  By MOnday I should have a new camera
 
  ann
 
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Ann Sanfedele
 
  i'm gonna just buy a DL and be done with it
  Rob is gonna be saying I told you so - but the prices were
  still to high last year.
 
  The one thing is, The DL will give me more detail and I can
  use myold PEntax glass.
 
 
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Re: PESO -Soap

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Just fooling around with something a little different.
 
 Comments, crits, rotten tomatoes welcome ...
 
 http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/soap.html

Language question: does fooling around means playing/experimenting 
in this context?

I like what I see, Shel...

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Re: PESO - Decorated Car

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/hood_3096.jpg
 http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/hood_detail_3108.jpg
 
 A couple of detailed pics of a well known car in the area.  The files are
 large as I could find  no way to make them smaller and show any detail at
 all.  They're part of a
 what-I-saw-that-may-be-interesting-to-someone-else series, just a
 document, as it were.

Makes me think of Covenant of Noah... (spelling?!)

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Re: PESO:One more cloud.

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Not quite so heavy handed a conversion:
 
 http://www.dsanderson.com/4.jpg

Mighty impressive! My wife thinks the same!

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Shell

On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 So one wonders if the camera is truly totally dead - or they
 just dont want to bother...

 I'm getting it back -- hoping that they are lying  -

The Canon service people are good.  Unlikely they are lying.

That doesn't mean an independent repairman can't fix it, though.   
Canon's service techs have to do things by the book.  An independent  
may know short cuts or unauthorized fixes that work.

Reminds me of back in the day when I did my own car repair.  If I  
followed the official shop manual's instructions to pull the engine  
out for service it would take 30 hours to do a ring job.  But I could  
do it in an unauthorized way without taking the engine out of the car  
in about three hours.

So it certainly wouldn't hurt to have an independent take a look at  
it when you get it back.

Did it get dunked in fresh water or salt water?  Did you immediately  
take the battery out?  (ALWAYS do that if a camera gets dunked.)

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Re: PESO:The sky really IS falling!

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 What would you think if you looked out the window and saw these:
 
 http://www.dsanderson.com/clouds.htm
 
 Lasted about 45 minutes and then, a nice sunny day.
 Had a lot of people very worried for a bit.
 These are really QD RAW conversions, I'll work
 on them and post more (and better) later.

Suppose the sky is falling. Now, given the weight of the sky please 
estimate the projected damage and specifically the amount of fuel spent 
by police cars running around due to citizens' calls ;-).

Way cool!

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
graywolf wrote:
 
 Same price? Don't hesitate, get the DS.
 
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I hope I was right about that!  that makes a lot of votes
for the DS 
A hunting I will go.  

ann



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  I have to check it out in person but I gather I can get them
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Re: PESO -Soap

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Pretty much so ...

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Boris Liberman 

  Just fooling around with something a little different.

  http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/soap.html

 Language question: does fooling around means 
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Re: PESO - Decorated Car

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bingo! Boris ... that's almost exactly what I thought/felt when taking the
second, closer pic.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Boris Liberman 

 Makes me think of Covenant of Noah... (spelling?!)

  http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/hood_3096.jpg
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Re: Peso - Fire in the sky

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Check out 
 
  http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 Comments - yea/nay/otherwise.

Yea ;-).

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Re: New K bodies listed on BH

2006-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
Depends. If it's a 5fps body (D200 sensor) I'd expect a bit more, around 
the same as a 30D. If it's a 3fps body (A100 sensor) I'd expect it to 
attempt to match the A100 pricing.

-Adam

Paul Stenquist wrote:

This also suggests that the 10D will sell for a price similar to that 
of the D. Probably around $1200 at BH.
Paul
On Jun 24, 2006, at 2:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  

On Jun 23, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:



The subject line says it all -

$619.00 for the K100D with SR,
$519.00 for the K110D w/out SR

Bodies only
Expected delivery in July and August respectively
  

Good! Seems like Pentax is delivering as promised ... BH generally
list only when they have been given confidence that product will be
in. Thanks for letting us know.

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RE: PESO:One more cloud.

2006-06-24 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Boris!

Don

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 Hi!
 
  Not quite so heavy handed a conversion:
  
  http://www.dsanderson.com/4.jpg
 
 Mighty impressive! My wife thinks the same!
 
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Re: PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread Jack Davis
Yes! Primarily due to the just slightly fried glare of the wall.
The yellow seems to add, as well as the hot red chair seats.
Do I detect the slightest bit of movement..or was that added as a
suggestion of heat shimmer?
Absolutely successful.
 
Jack 

--- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi!
 
 In Eilat it is +41C today. In Tel Aviv it is just above +30C but it
 is 
 very humid and very hot.
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14154
 
 My main question to you, dear viewer, is whether the heat of the day 
 shows from the picture.
 
 Brutal and honest comments are as usual wanted.
 
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Re: PESO: Happy Birthday Boris

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 So it's a dog picture. But it's a very special dog picture.
 Today, Boris is 8 years old. Almost three years ago, he was diagnosed
 with lymphosarcoma and we were told by the vet not to get our hopes
 up when we decided to embark on a course of chemotherapy. (pet
 insurance is a wonderful thing)
 As you can see, he is still with us and completely in remission. He is
 an amazing dog. Though he doesn't much like his photo being taken.
 
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/62330096

Great photo and a sad and touching story...

Each time I see your photo and title relating to Boris, Wendy, I think 
you might know something about me I don't necessarily know myself ;-).

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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ann, the DS, if you don't already know, has been discontinued for some
time.  Good luck finding a new one, but if you do, don't hesitate to grab
it, even if it costs a few bucks more (assuming you can afford the extra
few bucks - however, it may well be worth a small stretch of the budget)

Shel



 [Original Message]
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  Same price? Don't hesitate, get the DS.


 I hope I was right about that!  that makes a 
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Re: PESO - Gooderham Flatiron.

2006-06-24 Thread Adam Maas
Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

  

Shot this with an ancient Soligor Auto 35mm f2.8 screwmount lens on 
Aaron's LX. It's the original flatiron building, Toronto's Gooderham 
Building. One of my favourite subjects. Tri-X in Rodinal 1:25.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/170072183/

And for those who dislike flickr, a large version via direct link:

http://static.flickr.com/76/170072183_896883d68d_b.jpg



Adam, thanks for direct link, it is very thoughtful of you.

I should say I like the scene but on my screen it appears somewhat 
lacking in sharpness...

Boris


  

I would agree on the sharpness. I really like the character of the 
Soligor lens, but it doesn't even come close to being sharp wide open, 
which it is here due to light. The perils of using 3rd party glass from 
the 1960's.

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Re: PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread David Savage
G'day Boris,

Not particularly. It needs something like a couple of glasses of ice
water or beer with condensation trickling down them.

It's a technically fine picture that IMO is spoiled by the filters effect.

BTW, I find the easiest way to convey heat, is to take a picture of a
thermometer. ;-)

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Hot.jpg

Christmas day 2004

Dave

On 6/24/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 In Eilat it is +41C today. In Tel Aviv it is just above +30C but it is
 very humid and very hot.

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14154

 My main question to you, dear viewer, is whether the heat of the day
 shows from the picture.

 Brutal and honest comments are as usual wanted.

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RE: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Lou Billing


 -Original Message-
 
 I hope I was right about that!  that makes a lot of votes
 for the DS
 A hunting I will go.

 ann


Tri-State Camera still has them new through their ebay store, and are
apparently very reliable through this site.

http://tinyurl.com/zgccn

Good luck,
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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Agreed.  New condition, cheap price.   Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, Lou Billing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  -Original Message-
  
  I hope I was right about that!  that makes a lot of votes
  for the DS
  A hunting I will go.
 
  ann
 

 Tri-State Camera still has them new through their ebay store, and are
 apparently very reliable through this site.

 http://tinyurl.com/zgccn

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Re: PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread gibikote
hi
more like bright and sunny rather than hot/humid.
is the back of both chairs unsharp due to camera shake?
probably the wall just to the right of the flowers as well...

weather sounds a lot like how its out here (Vellore, South India)
~ 35 degrees, 65% humidity

regards
Sridhar

- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - The Hot Day


 Hi!
 
 In Eilat it is +41C today. In Tel Aviv it is just above +30C but it is 
 very humid and very hot.
 
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14154
 
 My main question to you, dear viewer, is whether the heat of the day 
 shows from the picture.
 
 Brutal and honest comments are as usual wanted.
 
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Re: PESO - wood structures

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostien,

That's a great presentation.  It really does take 5 minutes to
download.  I expected more structures and less wood, but quickly was
charmed by what I saw.  The music fits perfectly.

I loved the wood grains and knots in the first part with the
horizontal full screen persentation.  The fade transitions were useful
and added to the enjoyment of the show.  The occasional, quicker pop
onto the screen of an image was a good change of pace and seemed to be
matched to the music.  I found myself watching for how the knots moved
in and around the screen.

The later vertical shots in the show were less powerful as they filled
less of my screen, but still very enjoyable. The structure part of the
theme became more apparent here.  The occasional 5 pointed star was
also a treat as was the iron element and the closing.

I thought the pace of the slide changes was almost too quick.  I find
myself wanting to run the show again.  Perhaps this was intentional.
:-)  A very good design.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I figured I won't be doing this very often, so I stuck with a familiar
 acronym.

 What I have committed is actually a 3.5 minutes slide show, over the
 theme of structures in old woodwork. It's my first attempt at
 assembling something like this, so if someone has the time to
 download, look and comment, I'd be most grateful.

 I've tried to maintain a reasonable trade-off between image/sound
 quality and file size, but it's still a huge file; 23 MB! So don't try
 it on a dial-up.

 URL: http://www.oksne.net/temp/Trestrukturer2-compressed.exe

 It will only run on Microsoft platforms, with DirectX v9.0 or newer,
 and requires a graphic card with 3D rendering functionality. EXE-files
 is the only output option I have from the slide show software, which
 is the freeware version of Wings Platinum 2 from www.avstumpfl.com.

 Hope this doesn't scare everyone away.

 I'm only going to leave this up until Monday night, because there are
 copyright issues with the music. If someone is interested in the
 details about the music, I'm happy to fill you in off-list. Just give
 me a hint.

 thanks,
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A Week With the DA 16-45

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The DA 16-45 has been on the camera and in almost constant use for a little
more than week now.  Overall, it's a pretty decent lens, but, imo, not
worthy of the praise it's received here.

It's fine for portraits, some landscapes and scenics, and even works nicely
with close-ups and macro shots.  That's what a lot of people here seem to
use the lens for, at least based on pictures posted that have been made
with this lens.

However, it doesn't do well when asked to render fine detail.  Compared to
an A50/1.4 or a K35/2.0, the DA 16-50 does not fare well.  I was
disappointed in the results it produced here 

http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/jeans/rumpledjeans_2.html 

and here 

http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/hood_3096.jpg

In order to generate acceptable sharpness and detail these pics had to
receive quite a bit more sharpening than similar pics made with the prime
lenses I mentioned.  Used with landscapes in which there was a lot of
detail was also disappointing.

I like the convenience of a zoom, and for certain types of photos the 16-45
is a fine lens, but, IMO, you should choose your subjects carefully if you
want the best results.  I'm not sure if I'd buy this lens unless the price
was ~very~ good.  I am, nonetheless, looking forward to trying the
yet-to-be-released DA 16-50/2.8  The focal range suits a lot of the work I
do.  Maybe the 16-50 will be sharper and better able to render fine detail
I like, and the extra stop of speed will be very much appreciated. 
Shooting with f/4.0 just doesn't cut it for me in many instances.


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Re: Problem with uneven illumination

2006-06-24 Thread John Forbes
On reflection, I think you are right.  But it certainly looks like a  
shutter curtain problem, one way or another.

John

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:45:01 +0100, Vic Mortelmans  
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 I'd rather say the first curtain slowing down at the end of it's travel,
 causing the second to catch up and the left side of the picture being
 underexposed.

 Groeten,

 Vic

 John Forbes wrote:
 Second shutter curtain slowing down at the end of its travel?  Perhaps
 only occurring at certain shutter speeds?  Course, with digi, you could
 check the exif data to see the speed!

 John

 On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:39:11 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi,

 on several of the black  white pictures I have taken recently the
 illumination is uneven across the frame - part of the left side is
 significantly lighter than the rest of the frame. Here are some
 examples which show this:

 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/1361.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600014.htm
 http://www.web-options.com/Fret/pages/13600024.htm

 There are other examples.

 I have looked at the negatives and it is evident on them, so it is not
 a scanning problem.

 Other frames on the same film are ok, so it doesn't appear to be a
 development problem.

 Others taken with the same camera are ok, so evidently it is not a
 camera problem.

 This seems to suggest it is a problem with the lens, or perhaps the
 lens in combination with the camera. I can't remember which lens I
 used for each picture, but a bit of experimentation should establish
 it, if I'm correct.

 Can anybody suggest what could be the cause of this problem? Once I've
 established which component is at fault I'll get it serviced, but if
 anybody has any ideas about what causes this sort of thing it would
 help me when I describe the problem and shoot examples for the repair
 technician.

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Re: Small GFM gallery

2006-06-24 Thread John Forbes
Mountain Laurel?  Isn't that quite a hardy plant?

John

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:09:03 +0100, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mountain Laural is a Protected Species? I've never heard that one. Maybe
 you ought to come to the mountains sometime. You are in for a surprise.

 Maybe it is tough to cultivate at lower altitudes, could be a reason
 they call it mountain laural? But then, I have seen it growing in
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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bob Shell wrote:
 
 On Jun 23, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  So one wonders if the camera is truly totally dead - or they
  just dont want to bother...
 
  I'm getting it back -- hoping that they are lying  -
 
 The Canon service people are good.  Unlikely they are lying.
 
 That doesn't mean an independent repairman can't fix it, though.
 Canon's service techs have to do things by the book.  An independent
 may know short cuts or unauthorized fixes that work.
 
 
 Did it get dunked in fresh water or salt water?  Did you immediately
 take the battery out?  (ALWAYS do that if a camera gets dunked.)
 
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flash card.

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread P. J. Alling
The K10D is expected to be 10mp the K100D is still 6mp.  That's the 
major difference.  (The K10D may have a bigger buffer, and I'm really 
hoping for an aperture simulator, or 1.3 crop instead of APS-C but 
neither is likely).

gfen wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, John Francis wrote:
  

automatically during exposure.  And while metering has to be done
stopped down, rather than at full aperture, a single push of a button
will stop the lens down, take a meter reading, select an appropriate
shutter speed, and open the aperture again.  This all happens faster
than it just took you to read about it.



Alas, its just one more thing I'm stuck having to do, and it annoys me. 

Looks like I'm not quite ready to retire the MX or ZX5n yet. :)

What's the difference between the K100D and the K10D, and where are they 
pricing these things at? 


  



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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread P. J. Alling
645d is expected real soon now...

gfen wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
  

We'll have to see about the K10D but the K100D seems to have the same 
mount as the D/DS/DL/2...



Pentax has released this many digital cameras? Yow, I have been gone a 
long time...Although, I see most of the same names on the list as the last 
two times I've popped back to read it.

What became of the film line? Dead?

The Brotherhood? DIsbanded?

The Little Brotherhood, also dead I assume.. or did they actually put out 
some sort of MF/645 based digital thingy as rumoured last time I was 
'round here?

  



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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 Ann, the DS, if you don't already know, has been discontinued for some
 time.  Good luck finding a new one, but if you do, don't hesitate to grab
 it, even if it costs a few bucks more (assuming you can afford the extra
 few bucks - however, it may well be worth a small stretch of the budget)
 
 Shel

I grabbed the body from Tri-state at $449.00 and the 18-55mm
lens - just cause 
I needed one auto lens.  

after swearing I'd never (again) buy anything on line - I
did it just now -
The shipping was outrageous - but I was too impatient and
didnt notice eager to 
get it and give my borrowed mini Canon back to my friend.

had it shipped USPS because the mail guys all know me
 and I don't mind picking stuff up from Post office . 
 UPS and FedEX are a real PITA  here.

Everyone said grab it - I still paid less than I did for the
drowned Canon...

Thanks to all you guys for suggestions.

ann
  

 
  [Original Message]
  From: Ann Sanfedele
 
   Same price? Don't hesitate, get the DS.
 
  I hope I was right about that!  that makes a
  lot of votes for the DS  A hunting I will go.
 
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Re: Small GFM gallery

2006-06-24 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a state issue.  In Connecticut it's protected because it's the 
state flower, I hadn't heard of it being protected in NJ before.

graywolf wrote:

Mountain Laural is a Protected Species? I've never heard that one. Maybe 
you ought to come to the mountains sometime. You are in for a surprise.

Maybe it is tough to cultivate at lower altitudes, could be a reason 
they call it mountain laural? But then, I have seen it growing in 
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Re: PESO - wood structures

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
I'll add after my second viewing of the show that the colors and
shapes are very soothing.  Just as good the 2nd time around.

It makes me want to see more of these structures in their context to
the landscape/environment.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jostien,

 That's a great presentation.  It really does take 5 minutes to
 download.  I expected more structures and less wood, but quickly was
 charmed by what I saw.  The music fits perfectly.

 I loved the wood grains and knots in the first part with the
 horizontal full screen persentation.  The fade transitions were useful
 and added to the enjoyment of the show.  The occasional, quicker pop
 onto the screen of an image was a good change of pace and seemed to be
 matched to the music.  I found myself watching for how the knots moved
 in and around the screen.

 The later vertical shots in the show were less powerful as they filled
 less of my screen, but still very enjoyable. The structure part of the
 theme became more apparent here.  The occasional 5 pointed star was
 also a treat as was the iron element and the closing.

 I thought the pace of the slide changes was almost too quick.  I find
 myself wanting to run the show again.  Perhaps this was intentional.
 :-)  A very good design.

 Regards,  Bob S.

 On 6/24/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I figured I won't be doing this very often, so I stuck with a familiar
  acronym.
 
  What I have committed is actually a 3.5 minutes slide show, over the
  theme of structures in old woodwork. It's my first attempt at
  assembling something like this, so if someone has the time to
  download, look and comment, I'd be most grateful.
 
  I've tried to maintain a reasonable trade-off between image/sound
  quality and file size, but it's still a huge file; 23 MB! So don't try
  it on a dial-up.
 
  URL: http://www.oksne.net/temp/Trestrukturer2-compressed.exe
 
  It will only run on Microsoft platforms, with DirectX v9.0 or newer,
  and requires a graphic card with 3D rendering functionality. EXE-files
  is the only output option I have from the slide show software, which
  is the freeware version of Wings Platinum 2 from www.avstumpfl.com.
 
  Hope this doesn't scare everyone away.
 
  I'm only going to leave this up until Monday night, because there are
  copyright issues with the music. If someone is interested in the
  details about the music, I'm happy to fill you in off-list. Just give
  me a hint.
 
  thanks,
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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Lou Billing wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  
  I hope I was right about that!  that makes a lot of votes
  for the DS
  A hunting I will go.
 
  ann
 
 
 Tri-State Camera still has them new through their ebay store, and are
 apparently very reliable through this site.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/zgccn
 
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Re: PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
Isn't that camera shake on the chair to the right?
Also visible on the vertical edge of the white wall on the left.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/24/06, gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 more like bright and sunny rather than hot/humid.
 is the back of both chairs unsharp due to camera shake?
 probably the wall just to the right of the flowers as well...

 weather sounds a lot like how its out here (Vellore, South India)
 ~ 35 degrees, 65% humidity

 regards
 Sridhar

 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:58 PM
 Subject: PESO - The Hot Day


  Hi!
 
  In Eilat it is +41C today. In Tel Aviv it is just above +30C but it is
  very humid and very hot.
 
  http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14154
 
  My main question to you, dear viewer, is whether the heat of the day
  shows from the picture.
 
  Brutal and honest comments are as usual wanted.
 
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Re: wanted to buy aka camera disaster

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Great!  The 18-55 is somewhat underrated based on the few pics I've made
with one, which was back when I got my first DS.  See my review of the DA
16-45.  The 18-55 would be just a little more of the same.  I do like it's
somewhat longer reach than the 16-45, makes the lens just a little more
useful for me, but I like the wider end on the 16-45, which, yesterday, I
discovered, while very handy, still isn't wide enough.

IAC, congrats and good luck with Tri-State and the camera.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele 

 I grabbed the body from Tri-state at $449.00 and the 18-55mm
 lens - just cause I needed one auto lens.  

 after swearing I'd never (again) buy anything on line - I
 did it just now -
 The shipping was outrageous - but I was too impatient and
 didnt notice eager to 
 get it and give my borrowed mini Canon back to my friend.

 had it shipped USPS because the mail guys all know me
  and I don't mind picking stuff up from Post office . 
  UPS and FedEX are a real PITA  here.

 Everyone said grab it - I still paid less than I did for the
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Re: The beauty of narrow DOF

2006-06-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Sylwester,

I don't think the A* and FA* 85/1.4 are the same optical formula.  The
A* is a little more general purpose like the 77 limited.  The FA* is
really designed for portrait work.  It's sharpness in the longer focus
ranges is not as good as the A* or limited unless stopped down to at
least f8.  But it does great portraits.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006, 4:19:29 AM, you wrote:

SP On 24.06.06, at 2:38 , Jens Bladt wrote:

 A 1.4/85mm IS very expensive. But I guess a FA 77mm does rather  
 well too, at
 lesser cost..

SP Used FA* 85/1.4 will be as good as A* version, but less expensive -
SP rather around price of 77/1.8 Ltd ;-)

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Re: K100D SR

2006-06-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello gfen,

Not sure why you are saying alas.  You haven't tried it.  I have used
an MX for many, many years and it is among my favorite bodies of all
time.  The process that John described is faster to use than an MX.
So if you are happy with your MX, you should not be significantly
bothered by the Pentax DSLR.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006, 5:18:38 AM, you wrote:

g On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, John Francis wrote:
 automatically during exposure.  And while metering has to be done
 stopped down, rather than at full aperture, a single push of a button
 will stop the lens down, take a meter reading, select an appropriate
 shutter speed, and open the aperture again.  This all happens faster
 than it just took you to read about it.

g Alas, its just one more thing I'm stuck having to do, and it annoys me.

g Looks like I'm not quite ready to retire the MX or ZX5n yet. :)

g What's the difference between the K100D and the K10D, and where are they
g pricing these things at? 


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Re: PESO - The Hot Day

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 Boris,
 Isn't that camera shake on the chair to the right?
 Also visible on the vertical edge of the white wall on the left.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On 6/24/06, gibikote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 more like bright and sunny rather than hot/humid.
 is the back of both chairs unsharp due to camera shake?
 probably the wall just to the right of the flowers as well...

 weather sounds a lot like how its out here (Vellore, South India)
 ~ 35 degrees, 65% humidity

 regards
 Sridhar

Bob, Sridhar, Dave - you see, the shake is not caused by the shake. It 
is the result of applying this Dreams 2 filter. I thought (probably 
mistakenly) that its effect would look a bit like the hot air trembling 
with the wind...

Well, more work is evidently necessary ;-).

Thanks for your words. They help me a lot.

Boris


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