Re: My K10D arrived

2007-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Jens Bladt wrote:
 ...BTW:
 When Photoshop CS opens the files, they turn from lanscape to portrait mode
 to landscape mode (these portrait shots did) automatically!
 Is this magic or does the camera know which side was up?

Jens, this is black or black/silver magic depending on the lens color 
;-). Seriously however - after using my K10D for just a bit more than a 
month I should say that it seems Pentax crammed into this body most if 
not all current technology bells and whistles.

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/01 Thu AM 03:26:57 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation
 
 On 01/02/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Which lens is it? (eBay is blocked by the network admin.)
 
  I'm guessing the FA* 28-70mm f2.8
 
 This auction is for a Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-70mm F/2.8
 AF Lens with a brand new matching Hoya HMC 67mm UV Coated Protective
 Filter
 
 Winning bid: US $2,551.00

At present exchange rates, that's just about the RSP from when it was last 
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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson

 
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 Date: 2007/02/01 Thu AM 03:30:01 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation
 
 In a message dated 1/31/2007 7:27:37 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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 This auction is for a  Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-70mm F/2.8
 AF Lens with a brand new  matching Hoya HMC 67mm UV Coated Protective
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 Winning bid: US  $2,551.00
 
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 Egad.
 
 Marnie  aka Doe ;-)  I thought Pentax was cheaper than Canon.  
 

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson
FWIW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moggy
 
 From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/01 Thu AM 05:09:39 GMT
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 Subject: Re: I gotta brag
 
 Tim Øsleby wrote:
  Ludvik was a mongrel (new word for me).
 
 Just for your future reference, Tim (and anyone else), you'll sometimes
 hear British folks refer to a cat as a moggie.  My understanding is
 that this is a shortened form of mongrel.  It might apply to dogs, as
 well.  I'm an American ... what do I know of British dialects. :-)
 
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Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: OT: Cycle couriers
 
 This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen.  These guys  
 wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city.
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8
 

I take it you haven't seen the motorcycle commute ones from Japan.  Just as 
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Re: February 2007 PUG is open a bit early

2007-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/07, AvK, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi folks,
 
the February PUG is open.
 
It can be viewed on http://pug.komkon.org

Have Fun. 

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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

Maybe I should get Cotty to put a Pentax lensmount on my Olympus C-5050 
GRIN.

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Re: 77mm f1.8 ltd

2007-02-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, William Robb wrote:

 Cute brunette with a black eye today.

And the other one?

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Re: 77mm f1.8 ltd

2007-02-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 Subject: Re: 77mm f1.8 ltd

 Bastards at Don's Photo are worse than this list.
 They stuck a 70mm in front of me today.

And sure enough, it's still there as we speak :-)

Enjoy!

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Best dogs I've owned were mongrels. The best of al of them was half
 English Foxhound, half German Shepherd. She was brilliant, fast and
 athletic. She could open the front gate or leap over the five-foot
 back fence. She could tell time and would come to meet me when school
 let out. Her name was Ginger, and I'll never forget her.

Would you have a picture handy?

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The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread John Whittingham
I'm sure I've asked this before, but can't remember the outcomehas 
anyone figured how to set SR manually with a PKAF lens set at the 'A' psition 
on the K10D. I'd like to be able to mount the 300/4 APO with 2x TC and set SR 
to 600mm lens. I've been working my way through the settings but had no luck 
yet, can't find anything in the user manual to help.

TIA,

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Re: Another k10D problem

2007-02-01 Thread Fiso_PENTAX
Hello David,


 Contacted pentaxusa - they could not access the flickr pictures. 
 Suggested I send the camera back in.  Ick.

Please inform us about the conclusions when you get your camera back.


Yes the flickr is tricky for some..:)

www.skiboy.com/fiso/italianflagmodeDave.jpg (172k)

 
 I am still interested in any speculation and possible attempts of others 
 to duplicate this.

 Tried again today.
 Nothing like yours. (My slowest speed is  1/2 s @ 1600 iso and f32)


www.skiboy.com/fiso/italianflagmode1.jpg (205k)

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pdml.net mailing list memberships reminder ~ comments

2007-02-01 Thread keith_w
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RE: pdml.net mailing list memberships reminder ~ comments

2007-02-01 Thread Malcolm Smith
keith_w wrote:

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So do I Keith; I always thought that was one for film and the other for
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Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
If they can survive midtown Manhattan traffic, they can survive 
anything. In my crazier, younger days, I once roller bladed those same 
streets.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:52 AM, David Mann wrote:

 This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen.  These guys
 wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city.

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8

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Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's true that drivers in NY are aware of the environmnet, but they 
follow no rules. I remember when I used to drive to work in midtown. To 
get into 53rd Street from Third Avenue I had to turn left from about 
the third lane over, cutting across two lanes of traffic. That was the 
only way I could avoid waiting in a long line of other cars that wanted 
to turn left. Cabbies do it all the time. They also believe that you 
have 30 seconds to make it after the light changes to red. It's every 
man for himself.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:07 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 On 01/02/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This has to be about the scariest video I've ever seen.  These guys
 wouldn't last 5 minutes in my city.

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=nR2ygFn-yR8

 I wouldn't give them 30mons in Sydney, the NYC drivers are very
 accommodating from my experience as a pedestrian.

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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. Looks like a rock formation. I'd clone out the stuff at lower 
left and right to enhance the illusion and clean it up a bit.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 This is a broken off tree stump.  The lighting, coloring of the wood
 and the sky as background cause it to look sort of like a mountain or
 something.  I'm not even sure how appealing it is, but it is rather
 interesting.

 Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 100, 1/125 sec @ f/13

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4285.htm

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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the  
lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR adjustment  
screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set it to 600.  
I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works nicely.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:34 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

 I'm sure I've asked this before, but can't remember the  
 outcomehas
 anyone figured how to set SR manually with a PKAF lens set at the 'A'  
 psition
 on the K10D. I'd like to be able to mount the 300/4 APO with 2x TC and  
 set SR
 to 600mm lens. I've been working my way through the settings but had  
 no luck
 yet, can't find anything in the user manual to help.

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Not handy. Perhaps I can find an old slide when I have a minute.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:02 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Best dogs I've owned were mongrels. The best of al of them was half
 English Foxhound, half German Shepherd. She was brilliant, fast and
 athletic. She could open the front gate or leap over the five-foot
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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Brian Walters

Nice contrast between the stump and the sky.  Just shows how mundane objects 
can make for very attractive images.


Cheers

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Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is a broken off tree stump.  The lighting, coloring of the
 wood
 and the sky as background cause it to look sort of like a mountain
 or
 something.  I'm not even sure how appealing it is, but it is
 rather
 interesting.
 
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Future PUG Themes

2007-02-01 Thread Brian Walters
Hi all

Anyone know what the future themes are?  The list at:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html


stops at January 2007.




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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread John Whittingham
 It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the 
  lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR 
 adjustment  screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set 
 it to 600.  I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works nicely.
 Paul


Paul, thanks, you're a star player. I was just trying to figure out if it 
could be saved in user mode but that's saved me all the trouble.

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Re: Future PUG Themes

2007-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Brian, you can go to the submission form and there in a drop down menu
where you choose the month - you will see the topic list.

On 2/1/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Anyone know what the future themes are?  The list at:

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Re: Future PUG Themes

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
On 2/1/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 Anyone know what the future themes are?  The list at:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html


 stops at January 2007.

January - All Open
February - Duet
March - Black and White
April - Surprise
May - Blossom
June - Weather
July - Visual Pollution
August - Vacation
September - Strange
October - Autumn Colors
November - Opposites
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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread John Whittingham
 It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the 
  lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR 
 adjustment  screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set 
 it to 600.  I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works nicely.
 Paul


Ah now, is that an A series lens, or A series converter? Because it's not 
working with AF lenses and AF converter, it's just transmitting the lens 
data straight through and setting SR automatically, with no option in the 
menu structure to change SR, it's 'greyed out' so to speak!

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RE: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Good guess Peter. 
He was a Flatty and Svensk Lapphund (a Swedish FCI 5 breed, don't know the
name in English)
http://www.norsklapphundklubb.com/svensk_lapp.shtml


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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He looks a bit like a flat coated retriever.

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Ludvik was a mongrel (new word for me).
 http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=37379ref=author

 So I have nothing against mixed breeds. The unfortunate thing is when
people
 choose whatever dog of same breed that's within reach, because they are
 after easy money. That's the colour TV syndrome. 


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  

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 Best dogs I've owned were mongrels. The best of al of them was half  
 English Foxhound, half German Shepherd. She was brilliant, fast and  
 athletic. She could open the front gate or leap over the five-foot  
 back fence. She could tell time and would come to meet me when school  
 let out. Her name was Ginger, and I'll never forget her.
 Paul
 On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

   
 I think this is the same at our side of the pond too. Unfortunately  
 many
 Goldens suffer from what I call the colour TV syndrome. In early  
 seventies
 when the children where nagging their parent's to buy a colour TV, the
 answer was home breeding using the neighbour dog. The result was  
 often an
 odd mix of genes.

 This has happened to a lot of the popular breeds. So if you want a  
 child
 safe dog, then stay away from the popular breeds.


 Tim
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 Child friendy dogs?  How about a Golden Retriever.
   
 The number 1 biter in North America?
 The new health disaster looking for a place to happen?
 Sorry, not for me. Goldens aren't dogs they used to be.

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RE: pdml.net mailing list memberships reminder ~ comments

2007-02-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm doubled too. I thought it was because of my splitted personality. 


Tim
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Each reminder gives passwords that differ from each other...
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RE: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Owens
Same here Paul.  Our current housemate is what appears to be corgi beagle
mix.  She's getting old and spends most of the day sleeping.

Bill

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Best dogs I've owned were mongrels. The best of al of them was half  
English Foxhound, half German Shepherd. She was brilliant, fast and  
athletic. She could open the front gate or leap over the five-foot  
back fence. She could tell time and would come to meet me when school  
let out. Her name was Ginger, and I'll never forget her.
Paul
On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 I think this is the same at our side of the pond too. Unfortunately  
 many
 Goldens suffer from what I call the colour TV syndrome. In early  
 seventies
 when the children where nagging their parent's to buy a colour TV, the
 answer was home breeding using the neighbour dog. The result was  
 often an
 odd mix of genes.

 This has happened to a lot of the popular breeds. So if you want a  
 child
 safe dog, then stay away from the popular breeds.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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 Subject: Re: I gotta brag


 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: I gotta brag


 Child friendy dogs?  How about a Golden Retriever.

 The number 1 biter in North America?
 The new health disaster looking for a place to happen?
 Sorry, not for me. Goldens aren't dogs they used to be.

 William Robb


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Re: Another guy with too much spare time

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
Of all the Canadian $1 coin pictures I've seen today, those are the best :-)

So does anyone have a hypothesis of what's causing the pink colouring?

And quit abusing your camera. You'll make the sensor blind.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/1/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After yesterday's bleat, I decided to see if I could abuse my camera too.
 It turns out that I can.
 The link below will take you to 6 boring pictures of a Canadian $1.00 coin
 on the lid of my freezer chest.
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/banding/banding.html
 Note the pinkness in the bottom left corner of the high iso, small aperture
 picture.
 Enjoy

 William Robb

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Re: Pentax to the rescue

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
Good to hear your OK.

But I want to see pictures!

;-)

Here are some I took of my car when it was vandalised in '05:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_005/
*istD, FA 28-105mm f4-5.6 PZ, ISO 200.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/1/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had a car crash this morning. The other guy just drove to the red
 light to my right in such a way that I could only brake and eventually
 we've hit each other. I'm completely uninjured. Just a scratch on my
 right knee from the car key or dashboard.

 I've had my camera with me and later I took the pictures of the car,
 which I shall not publish ;-).

 I am fine, though I am definitely going to have a lesson taught to me in
 few days to come.

 Boris

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
On 2/1/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Savage wrote:

  (in hindsight I should have got the 200, because the
  80-200 is a heavy bugger  I use it mostly at the 200mm FL).

 Want to trade? :-)

Nice try Doug.

I don't regret owning it. I just wish I'd got the FA 200 as well.

Cheers,

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/30/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a malamute when I was in high school.

This is going to make me look even more like an idiot than I already
do, but I have to apologize.  After looking through some Malamute
related web sites, I realized that I didn't have a malamute.  I had a
Siberian Husky.  Doh!  Even without looking at the photos, the
temperament descriptions match my dog perfectly.  Wonderful breed,
btw.  Just a little on the independent side.

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Re: Pentax to the rescue

2007-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Dave, I will not post picture of my crashed car. If you wish, I can
send you some off-list.

On 2/1/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good to hear your OK.

 But I want to see pictures!

 ;-)

 Here are some I took of my car when it was vandalised in '05:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_005/
 *istD, FA 28-105mm f4-5.6 PZ, ISO 200.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 2/1/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've had a car crash this morning. The other guy just drove to the red
  light to my right in such a way that I could only brake and eventually
  we've hit each other. I'm completely uninjured. Just a scratch on my
  right knee from the car key or dashboard.
 
  I've had my camera with me and later I took the pictures of the car,
  which I shall not publish ;-).
 
  I am fine, though I am definitely going to have a lesson taught to me in
  few days to come.
 
  Boris

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote:

 On 2/1/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Want to trade? :-)
 
 Nice try Doug.
 
 I don't regret owning [the 80-200/2.8]. I just wish I'd got
 the FA 200 as well.

I /had/ to give it a shot.  Heck, I could probably find something to
sweeten the offer. ;-)

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Re: PESO -- three more from the DCPDML

2007-02-01 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Paul!

On 1/31/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good work, Scott. Excellent pic of Cesar.
 Paul
 On Jan 31, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

  My slides came back the day before yesterday.  I scanned in three, all
  of which are from Cesar's 31mm LTD.
 
  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/DCPDMLDecember16th2006/
  photo#5026351257997479010
  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/DCPDMLDecember16th2006/
  photo#5026351257997479026
  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/DCPDMLDecember16th2006/
  photo#5026351257997479042
 
  Sorry about the way picasaweb generates links.  If those are too
  jumbled to use, try going directly to the gallery.
  http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/DCPDMLDecember16th2006
 
  Thanks for looking.
 
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Re: PESO: 50's Creamer

2007-02-01 Thread Jack Davis
So you'll know where I am on this, I consider it sort of a playful
attempt at cute. The form of the mouth, its total stance and shadow I
find pleasing. FTR, I don't feel it's a 'strong' image.
I have absolutely no emotional investment in it and guarantee that I'll
find no comment offensive. Just curious as to what it may elicit.
It won't come up again.

Jack
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 Sorting through some secondary slide storage, I came across this and
 found that I still consider some of its shapes pleasing.
 Guess it doesn't matter where you find them.
 
 Jack
 
 Comments welcome!
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=217
 
 
 
 
  


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Re: Another guy with too much spare time

2007-02-01 Thread William Robb

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From: David Savage Subject: Re: Another guy with too much spare time


 Of all the Canadian $1 coin pictures I've seen today, those are the best 
 :-)

 So does anyone have a hypothesis of what's causing the pink colouring?

I had one, but Rob poo-pooed it. Now I don't have one anymore.

William Robb 


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Re: Pentax to the rescue

2007-02-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Indeed, my bad. I did not notice the smiley. Well, rather I noticed
it, I misinterpreted its intended meaning...



On 2/1/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was kidding Boris.

 Cheers,

 Dave (I have a different sense of humor at times)

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  Dave, I will not post picture of my crashed car. If you wish, I can
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Re: Pentax to the rescue

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
I was kidding Boris.

Cheers,

Dave (I have a different sense of humor at times)

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 Dave, I will not post picture of my crashed car. If you wish, I can
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RE: Another question about the istDS- changing screens?

2007-02-01 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I've done exactly what you are proposing to my -DS.  The actual 
swapping of screens is very easy... just a tiny little hinged frame around 
the screen with a snap-type clip on the top.  Open the door, remove old, 
insert new, close door.

As far as cutting down a screen, it's rather tedious.  I bought 
one from a local camera repair shop for $5 out of an old Minolta.  I 
wanted a diagonal split-prism like my P30T had, but apparently almost 
nobody ever used them.  Seems like a no-brainer since both 
vertical AND horizontal lines are useful then... but I digress...

Anyway, I used a calipers to measure the stock -DS screen's 
dimensions and the sacrificial screen's.  Split the two dimensions, 
scratch a line onto the new one, and get to sanding/filing.  I was very 
careful to only ever hold the screen by the edge.

Caveats:
- Easy to file the screen slightly off-center.  I did.  Oops.
- Different focus screen may cause metering problems due to different 
transmission, but largely irrelevant due to...
- Stop-down metering with pre-A lenses blacks out the center prism with 
apertures smaller than f/5.6-f/8.  That screws the spot metering 
completely and messes the center-weighted appreciably.  Only way I've 
found with the older lenses is to use the stop-down metering hack, but 
then double-check the histogram after the shot.
- Well-known blackout with sufficiently slow lenses.

Otherwise, it's great for lenses f/4 and faster... f/2.8 or faster 
is REALLY nice.

-Cory


On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Cool! I wont wait for what's available, I will
 take it into my own hands and make what I want
 work now. Only caveat is metering might get a little
 out of whack for a new unknown screen, but
 then again, might not.
 jco

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 Subject: Re: Another question about the istDS- changing screens?


 Yes, the screen can be replaced in much the same manner as that of
 the LX. I put a grid screen in my *IstD. Waiting to see what becomes
 available for the K10D.
 Paul
 On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:44 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 I think I read its possible for user to change
 screens on the istDS. Is this true?, is this difficult? Anybody done
 this? Curious I have a bunch of parts bodies I can salvage a split
 image screen from and modify ( cut ) to fit if I can install
 it myself easy enough without having to disassemble the body.


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Re: OT: Cycle couriers

2007-02-01 Thread Christian
Digital Image Studio wrote:

 
 I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a bike courier
 crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian light controlled
 crossing some years back, of course the lights were red for the
 cyclist :-(
 

I blame frank.  :-)

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Taking panorama stitching to the next level

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Some researchers at Carnegie-Mellon University (ones working in 
California, not the main campus around the corner from me in 
Pittsburgh, but it made the local paper anyway) have built a robot 
that holds the camera and automatically pans/tilts it between shots. 
What's more, it sounds as if they're going to get it to market and are 
expecting a retail price of around $200.00 (not including the camera).

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07031/758011-96.stm

OK, it'll take half an hour to take 300 shots and get a 30 gigapixel 
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RE: PESO--Ball

2007-02-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Cool! 
There is room for improvements (edge sharpness and alignment of the shadow),
but it is very cool, as is. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: PESO--Ball

A bit of a departure for me, this shot.  A week or so
ago, on another Sunday afternoon with dim, utterly
flat light outside, I felt desperate to click the
shutter on my ist D.  This superball was lying around,
so I played with it (photographically) for a while. 
This shot was taken on the dining room table,
illuminated from above by an incandescent fixture and
from the left by a tiny LED flashlight.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5529796

For some reason, I can't get the saturation to match
what it is in the unposted jpg, but that's the
internet for you.

ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, 1/20 @ f/4.5, RAW via ACR
and PE4.  I focused on a cat hair on the ball's
surface, which I removed with PE4.

Comments, rave reviews, scathing criticism all
welcome.

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Re: Taking panorama stitching to the next level

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
Cool. Something like this:

http://vrm.vrway.com/vartist/VR_industry/NEW_KARLINE_RODEON_PRO_VR_HEAD.html

Cheaper and available (the manufactures website doesn't seem to be
alive anymore) would be nice.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2/1/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some researchers at Carnegie-Mellon University (ones working in
 California, not the main campus around the corner from me in
 Pittsburgh, but it made the local paper anyway) have built a robot
 that holds the camera and automatically pans/tilts it between shots.
 What's more, it sounds as if they're going to get it to market and are
 expecting a retail price of around $200.00 (not including the camera).

 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07031/758011-96.stm

 OK, it'll take half an hour to take 300 shots and get a 30 gigapixel
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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Young maybe, but little?

William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: wendy beard
 Subject: Re: I gotta brag


   
 Congrats, Bill. Well done the pair of you!

 Wendy
 p.s.
 just been looking through his baby album. This is hilarious!

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/page2/_IGP1562.jpg
 

 Ban the leghold trap!!!

 Thanks everyone for looking, and for the congrats. The PCD title is ike 
 graduating kindergarten, but I'm still really proud of the little guy.

 William Robb 


   


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Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Rick Womer
Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days???

--- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Digital Image Studio wrote:
 
  
  I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a
 bike courier
  crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian
 light controlled
  crossing some years back, of course the lights
 were red for the
  cyclist :-(
  
 
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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Rick Womer
El Capitan on a bad hair day?

--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a broken off tree stump.  The lighting,
 coloring of the wood
 and the sky as background cause it to look sort of
 like a mountain or
 something.  I'm not even sure how appealing it is,
 but it is rather
 interesting.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 100, 1/125 sec @ f/13
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4285.htm
 
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Re: Taking panorama stitching to the next level

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/01 Thu PM 02:30:24 GMT
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 Subject: Taking panorama stitching to the next level
 
 Some researchers at Carnegie-Mellon University (ones working in 
 California, not the main campus around the corner from me in 
 Pittsburgh, but it made the local paper anyway) have built a robot 
 that holds the camera and automatically pans/tilts it between shots. 
 What's more, it sounds as if they're going to get it to market and are 
 expecting a retail price of around $200.00 (not including the camera).
 
 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07031/758011-96.stm
 
 OK, it'll take half an hour to take 300 shots and get a 30 gigapixel 
 image, but it's still pretty cool!

Two (neither of them positive, I'm afraid) thoughts:
1. the light can change a lot in 30 minutes
2. next, an automatic vehicle to transport you to the best location, as decided 
by perusing Gurgle Earth..


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Re: PESO - snow geese and moon

2007-02-01 Thread ann sanfedele


Christian wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:

  

http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/snow_moon_IMG_6067.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/yo5nut

What do you think?

 

  

I think I like it quite a lot...
decisive moment stuff (unless, of course, you made two different pixs 
and combined them in PS :)



HAR!  To be honest, I wouldn't have a clue on how to do that!  Thanks, Ann.


I don't know either  :)

I'd actually like to know to do it for some design stuff - I can overlay 
layers making one semi-visible
but I'd like to know how to make something that is like an old fashioned 
double exposure but isnt.

I know, read the manual - I'm so bad at that.

ann


  




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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Bruce,

Thursday, February 1, 2007, 8:38:22 AM, you wrote:

 This is a broken off tree stump.  The lighting, coloring of the wood
 and the sky as background cause it to look sort of like a mountain or
 something.  I'm not even sure how appealing it is, but it is rather
 interesting.

 Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 100, 1/125 sec @ f/13

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4285.htm

 Comments welcome

 -- 
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Like it! It really looks like a rock formation. I agree with Paul on
cloning out the stuff in the lower corners. Not much distraction, but
the photo would be more powerful without them.

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I had a malamute, she was a very independent dog.  Loved people, even 
small children were well tolerated, hell on other animals, especially 
other dogs.  Other than humans, animals they fell into two categories, 
rivals or prey.

Scott Loveless wrote:
 On 1/30/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I had a malamute when I was in high school.
 

 This is going to make me look even more like an idiot than I already
 do, but I have to apologize.  After looking through some Malamute
 related web sites, I realized that I didn't have a malamute.  I had a
 Siberian Husky.  Doh!  Even without looking at the photos, the
 temperament descriptions match my dog perfectly.  Wonderful breed,
 btw.  Just a little on the independent side.

   


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Re: PESO--Lobby

2007-02-01 Thread Christian
Rick Womer wrote:

 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5533752

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Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
I was wondering the same thing. Haven't heard from him in at least a week.
Paul
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 Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days???
 
 --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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   I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a
  bike courier
   crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian
  light controlled
   crossing some years back, of course the lights
  were red for the
   cyclist :-(
   
  
  I blame frank.  :-)
  
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Re: Camera based SR vs. lens based IS?

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty wrote:
 On 28/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 If you're going to waste your time speculating, do it on a more useful 
 issue like the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin.
 

 Mark! 

 D'oh!

 Ain't no angels on this list brother.

   
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Re: Camera based SR vs. lens based IS?

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling

 I normally carry a camera weighing 24 lbs so to
 me the IS lens is a relief to shoulder about. 
and you're also as big as Paul Bunyon...

Cotty wrote:
 On 29/1/07, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 I'm simply asking
 for first hand experiences. First hand experiences are a lot more worth than
 defensive marketing. 
 

 I have no experience of in-body SR, and I only have experience of one
 lens with in-lens IS (20-200 2.8 L IS). From where I'm standing, the I
 like the IS because I can see with my own eyes that it's working,
 although it does use battery power, and the lens is what some would
 consider big and heavy. I normally carry a camera weighing 24 lbs so to
 me the IS lens is a relief to shoulder about. I like the IS and have it
 switched on as a default. It does what it says on the tin, and I can't
 fault it. Had it since summer of 2004 and it has not skipped a beat. I
 also have a 2X converter but use it only extremely rarely as I don't
 like the image degredation.

 I don't have any other IS lenses, although I sometimes wish the 24-70 I
 use a lot had it. I find no need for IS on wider lenses. I'm hoping to
 pick up a 24mm lens in the not-too-distant, and if I had a choice of one
 with IS or one without, I'd pick the latter.

 If the Darkside offers in-body IS, I would guess that it will be in the
 prosumer range and I have no plans for any more bodies within a couple
 of years. I am waiting for a fix to full-frame vignetting, and then I
 anticipate a full-frame body by about 2010.

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Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park

2007-02-01 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Corey,

Welcome to the list!

Nice photo, I like the BW conversion, the soft highlights in
particular, which give it a dreamlike feeling.

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Sunday, January 28, 2007, 8:44:05 PM, you wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography.  I had been
 craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really
 serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d.

 http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg

 Converted to BW in the beta of Lightroom.

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RE: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread Markus Maurer
I agree with William regarding the equipment.
I used a 35mm Pentax and a 90mm Tamron macro prime on two film bodies for my
first two paid photo jobs.
One was a demonstration and the second one a party.
I had a fast 50mm and the 24mm Pentax in the bag too but used them only
inside a church with very low lightning.

Primes change the way I/you shoot and wide ones force you to get even closer
and in contact with people which can be seen in the photos.
I would not use a zoom for a party event but take a simple 35/85-100mm
combination for a small package.

greetings
Markus



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Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation


 I really appreciate all of the advice I've received, and I certainly
 didn't mean to start an argument.  Discussion, even with
 disagreements, is good, though.  My initial intention was to shoot the
 wedding with the K100D, the kit lens, and a telephoto zoom.  Not
 ideal, I know, but I'm not professing any ability at this kind of
 thing.  I'm also not going to invest in new lenses to shoot a wedding
 for free.  That will have to wait until I decide if this is a field I
 want to try to make some money in.

 In addition to the digital rig, I had planned to bring along the MX
 with a couple of primes and some Neopan 1600 for a little contrast to
 the color images.  And one other film body, just in case I have
 problems with the digital rig.

 Most of my shooting these days involves chasing two little girls
 around, and I'm in a fast action mode.  The zoom lenses tend to be
 ideal for this.  On the other hand, I've always preferred shooting
 with primes, but I'm not good enough for the primes to offer any
 sharpness advantage when shooting without a tripod.  I'm not fast
 enough to keep up with the kids, either.  So I rarely use a prime lens
 anymore.

 I read a magazine article a while back about the wedding
 photographer's lens kit.  It was an older article from the 70s or 80s,
 which discussed Nikon's recommendations.  The lenses were a 35, 50,
 and an 85 or 105 (I think).  Imagine showing up to a wedding these
 days with a couple of old manual cameras and a few primes!  It seems
 like most photogs I read about are carrying the latest and greatest
 digital rigs with IS lenses, a laptop, at least one assistant, a
 myriad of lights, and if they have a film camera at all it's an F5 or
 a Leica.  Who the hell can afford to do weddings like this?  On the
 contrary, most of the wedding photographers I actually see are either
 shooting with medium format or a Fuji digital body, and working their
 butts off because their assistant didn't show up or they didn't have
 one in the first place.

 I have a little time to prepare, and I may just decide to suck up the
 expense and shoot the whole thing on film.

 Thanks again, and keep it coming!

Don't worry about me and Paul arguing, we're just a couple of old bears
mooing at each other from our mountaintops.
If you are comfortable with zooms, by all means use them, but consider that
you are giving up valuable fill light due to their slow speed compared to a
prime, and if the zoom is variable aperture, your fill exposures may also
vary as you zoom.
The photographers you read about are the ones with enough time on their
hands to write about themselves. The majority are too busy trying to put
groceries in the fridge to be bothered.
At this point, I don't think I'd bother with 35mm film, except as a last
resort back-up. OTOH, if you can shoot the bridal and group portraits on
medium format, you will notice a difference in quality, especially the
larger groups, where there may not be enough pixels to resolve facial
details sufficiently off the 6mp sensor.
Ask Cesár to loan you his 6x7 and tell him I said you could borrow a few
lenses.
Later in my wedding career, I settled on 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm, with the
24 seeing almost no use, except for inside the limo and sometimes for
overviews of the church if it was a nice one. I noted that I seemed to be
missing shots that I would have gotten prior to trying to use more lenses
becuase I had the wrong lens on the camera at the wrong time.
If you only have the one focal length, and are familiar with it, you tend to
think in terms of what that lens can do for you, and adjust the way you do
things accordingly. With a fast prime, you can do things you just can't do
with a zoom.
My problem with zooms was (still is) slow maximum apertures which made
focusing difficult in dimly lit churches, killed the fill light, and had
wonky barrel distortions that made the architecture look funny. The barrel
distortion thing shouldn't be a problem now, I suspect they have those
things ironed out, but zooms are still slower lenses than 

RE: can not see photos

2007-02-01 Thread Markus Maurer
If you see only empty frames an ad blocker like Norton Internet Security or
some other suite could do its magic maybe?
greetings
Markus

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Works fine for me (Firefox), must be something you're doing there.

I recall this happening on occasion, perhaps you can search the archives?

Cory

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Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/2/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days???

He's a courtin ;-)

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Re: Reading writing speed of K10D on SDHC

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh wrote:

 I wonder if anybody knows the reading and writing speed of K10D on  
 SDHC
 memory cards. In another way is there any difference between 80x  
 and 150x in
 camera?


For *ist DS and K10D write speed timing tests, see
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/

There is a significant difference between 60x and 150x cards shown,  
and I understand the Transcend 150x cards are not as fast as the  
Sandisk Extreme III.

Regards the SDHC cards, it depends on the card speed mostly. The  
fastest available as yet that I know of are the Sandisk Ultra II  
class cards (60x) although there are high speed Panasonic SDHC cards  
available as well and I don't know what their speed rating is.

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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/2/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

El Capitan on a bad hair day?

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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:47 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
 It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the
  lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR
 adjustment  screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set
 it to 600.  I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works  
 nicely.
 Paul


 Ah now, is that an A series lens, or A series converter? Because  
 it's not
 working with AF lenses and AF converter, it's just transmitting the  
 lens
 data straight through and setting SR automatically, with no option  
 in the
 menu structure to change SR, it's 'greyed out' so to speak!


If the lens fitted supplies the focal length data, I don't believe  
there is any way to override the setting. That includes the lens plus  
teleconverter.

Pentax-A Rear Converters do not supply the focal length data so you  
can set it manually. That's the only one I have. However, this topic  
came up on DPReview.com and one person posted his experience with the  
Pentax-F 1.7AF adapter and the Sigma 2x APO TC ...

thread link:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? 
forum=1036message=21831766
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ForumDPReview.com Pentax SLR Talk
Subject  Re: Teleconvertors  anti-shake focal lengths
Posted byMcBrian  [CLICK FOR PROFILE]
Date/Time6:44:59 PM, Saturday, January 27, 2007 (GMT)



Hi all, haven't digested all of the thread, so sorry if I'm repeating  
anything, hope some of this may be of interest.

I just received a Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor today, got for a very very  
nice price and it's in as new condition too. I already have a Sigma  
2x APO so I wondered how the K10D SR and EXIF differs between them,  
well here are a few quick conclussions.

Penatx SMC-F 1.7X Adaptor
When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x adaptor you are  
promted at switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4  
mounted the adjusted aperture of f2.8-40 is selectable/displayed in  
VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the  
SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens  
does AF though.

When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x after switch on you  
can set the desired focal length by going into the Shake Reduction  
menu and select whatever focal length you wish, with the DA16-45 f4  
mounted the adjusted aperture of f6.7-40 is selectable/displayed in  
VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the  
SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens  
does AF though.

Sigma 2x APO
When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC you are promted at  
switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4 mounted an  
aperture of f1.4-22 is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF. No  
corrections to Aperture but the focal length selected is displayed in  
the the EXIF. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected.

When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC after switch on  
you cannot set the desired focal length, the Shake Reduction menu is  
greyed out, with an FA24-90 mounted the aperture range as stated on  
the lens is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF, No corrections to  
Aperture or focal length in VF or EXIF

If you switch on with only the Sigma 2x attached you are promted for  
a focal length but this is over ridden as soon as you attach an AF lens.
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So behavior will differ based on the teleconverter and the primary  
lens fitted.

Godfrey

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Comet McNaught Southern Lights

2007-02-01 Thread Tom C
Check out the photo taken with a Pentax *ist DS on www.spaceweather.com .



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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice, sure does mimic a western rock formation.
A little more of the brush on the RH side would help balance the image.

Kenneth Waller

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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO - A bit odd


 This is a broken off tree stump.  The lighting, coloring of the wood
 and the sky as background cause it to look sort of like a mountain or
 something.  I'm not even sure how appealing it is, but it is rather
 interesting.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
 ISO 100, 1/125 sec @ f/13
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4285.htm
 
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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread Perry Pellechia
On 2/1/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If the lens fitted supplies the focal length data, I don't believe
 there is any way to override the setting. That includes the lens plus
 teleconverter.



Sure there is,  just tape over the lens mount contacts.

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Re: pdml.net mailing list memberships reminder ~ comments

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
I'm getting two also.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: pdml.net mailing list memberships reminder ~ comments


 Each month I get two separate reminders with subscription info in them.
 
 Each reminder gives passwords that differ from each other...
 Same name, etc., but different passwords!
 
 Name is always my email address:
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 The two passwords are:
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 I never have problems with the list, but thought you'd like to know 
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OT Looks like gmail is not getting to the pdml, sooooo

2007-02-01 Thread David J Brooks
Back to Horde Mail i quess. My threads and replies to threads all seem  
to get to Gmail, but they don't show up on the archives, the digest,  
or this Horde mail i left open to check.

I sent quite a few over the last few days.

To bad. I was just getting used to it.

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Direct Links to the Comet Lights photos.

2007-02-01 Thread Tom C
http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images2007/30jan07/Yoneto1.jpg

http://www.spaceweather.com/aurora/images2007/30jan07/Yoneto2.jpg


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Re: I gotta brag

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
I can understand the confusion with some one who doesn't own one. But from 
an owner 

I had a really sweet Malamute Bear - about 125 to 135 lbs -  when we were 
out for a walk alot of people would ask if he was a husky. Very few got it 
right.
BTW he was the nicest animal with young kids. Liked to play with them, 
rolling babies on the floor  just being friendly with them.
Most people never got that far with him as they were put off by his size, 
but he always was a real puppy dog. He never showed aggressive tendencies 
unless someone showed aggression towards me.
Lived for 13 years. I miss him but not the work it took to take of him.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: I gotta brag


 On 1/30/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had a malamute when I was in high school.

 This is going to make me look even more like an idiot than I already
 do, but I have to apologize.  After looking through some Malamute
 related web sites, I realized that I didn't have a malamute.  I had a
 Siberian Husky.  Doh!  Even without looking at the photos, the
 temperament descriptions match my dog perfectly.  Wonderful breed,
 btw.  Just a little on the independent side.

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Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
 Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days???

Or Shel ?

Kenneth Waller

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From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?


 Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days???

 --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Digital Image Studio wrote:

 
  I did catch a pedestrian who was knocked over by a
 bike courier
  crossing one of the cities busiest pedestrian
 light controlled
  crossing some years back, of course the lights
 were red for the
  cyclist :-(
 

 I blame frank.  :-)

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Re: OT Looks like gmail is not getting to the pdml, sooooo

2007-02-01 Thread Rick Womer
Odd--other peoples' gmail posts are going through
fine.

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 Back to Horde Mail i quess. My threads and replies
 to threads all seem  
 to get to Gmail, but they don't show up on the
 archives, the digest,  
 or this Horde mail i left open to check.
 
 I sent quite a few over the last few days.
 
 To bad. I was just getting used to it.
 
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Re: Camera based SR vs. lens based IS?

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
 Ain't no angels on this list brother

But there is a pin head or two.

Kenneth Waller

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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Camera based SR vs. lens based IS?


 Cotty wrote:
 On 28/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 If you're going to waste your time speculating, do it on a more useful 
 issue like the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin.
 

 Mark! 

 D'oh!

 Ain't no angels on this list brother.

   
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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Interesting.
But I wonder if, for example a 300mm lens with a 1.4 converter, should have 
the SR set for a 300mm lens or 420mm (1.4 X 300) lens ?

Any thoughts?


Kenneth Waller

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The need to manually set SR


 On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:47 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
 It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the
  lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR
 adjustment  screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set
 it to 600.  I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works
 nicely.
 Paul


 Ah now, is that an A series lens, or A series converter? Because
 it's not
 working with AF lenses and AF converter, it's just transmitting the
 lens
 data straight through and setting SR automatically, with no option
 in the
 menu structure to change SR, it's 'greyed out' so to speak!


 If the lens fitted supplies the focal length data, I don't believe
 there is any way to override the setting. That includes the lens plus
 teleconverter.

 Pentax-A Rear Converters do not supply the focal length data so you
 can set it manually. That's the only one I have. However, this topic
 came up on DPReview.com and one person posted his experience with the
 Pentax-F 1.7AF adapter and the Sigma 2x APO TC ...

 thread link:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
 forum=1036message=21831766
 ---
 Forum  DPReview.com Pentax SLR Talk
 Subject  Re: Teleconvertors  anti-shake focal lengths
 Posted by  McBrian  [CLICK FOR PROFILE]
 Date/Time  6:44:59 PM, Saturday, January 27, 2007 (GMT)



 Hi all, haven't digested all of the thread, so sorry if I'm repeating
 anything, hope some of this may be of interest.

 I just received a Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor today, got for a very very
 nice price and it's in as new condition too. I already have a Sigma
 2x APO so I wondered how the K10D SR and EXIF differs between them,
 well here are a few quick conclussions.

 Penatx SMC-F 1.7X Adaptor
 When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x adaptor you are
 promted at switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4
 mounted the adjusted aperture of f2.8-40 is selectable/displayed in
 VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the
 SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens
 does AF though.

 When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x after switch on you
 can set the desired focal length by going into the Shake Reduction
 menu and select whatever focal length you wish, with the DA16-45 f4
 mounted the adjusted aperture of f6.7-40 is selectable/displayed in
 VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the
 SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens
 does AF though.

 Sigma 2x APO
 When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC you are promted at
 switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4 mounted an
 aperture of f1.4-22 is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF. No
 corrections to Aperture but the focal length selected is displayed in
 the the EXIF. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected.

 When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC after switch on
 you cannot set the desired focal length, the Shake Reduction menu is
 greyed out, with an FA24-90 mounted the aperture range as stated on
 the lens is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF, No corrections to
 Aperture or focal length in VF or EXIF

 If you switch on with only the Sigma 2x attached you are promted for
 a focal length but this is over ridden as soon as you attach an AF lens.
 ---

 So behavior will differ based on the teleconverter and the primary
 lens fitted.

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Re: OT: Cycle couriers--Where's Knarf?

2007-02-01 Thread Christian
Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Speaking of whom, where =is= Frank these days???
 
 Or Shel ?
 

shel was in the hospital for a procedure of some sort.  someone posted 
that he is out and doing well.
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Re: OT Looks like gmail is not getting to the pdml, sooooo

2007-02-01 Thread Gonz
I had the same problem in the beginning with gmail, I could receive
but not post.  Then it started working.  I dont know what changed.

rg


On 2/1/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Back to Horde Mail i quess. My threads and replies to threads all seem
 to get to Gmail, but they don't show up on the archives, the digest,
 or this Horde mail i left open to check.

 I sent quite a few over the last few days.

 To bad. I was just getting used to it.

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Re: PESO: 50's Creamer

2007-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2007 6:40:29 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So you'll know where I am on this,  I consider it sort of a playful
attempt at cute. The form of the mouth, its  total stance and shadow I
find pleasing. FTR, I don't feel it's a 'strong'  image.
I have absolutely no emotional investment in it and guarantee that  I'll
find no comment offensive. Just curious as to what it may elicit.
It  won't come up again.

Jack
--- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Sorting through some secondary slide storage, I came across  this and
 found that I still consider some of its shapes  pleasing.
 Guess it doesn't matter where you find them.
 
  Jack
 
 Comments welcome!
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=217


Oh,  in that case... ;-)

The bottom edge of the creamer is too close to the  bottom edge of the 
picture. 

Actually, I feel this MIGHT be an  interesting subject and background, but I 
don't think you got the best angle on  it. Something a little closer, a little 
lower down, or something, I feel could  have made it cuter.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: PESO - A bit odd

2007-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/31/2007 10:46:15 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a broken off  tree stump.  The lighting, coloring of the wood
and the sky as  background cause it to look sort of like a mountain or
something.  I'm  not even sure how appealing it is, but it is  rather
interesting.

Pentax K10D, DA 16-45/4, Handheld
ISO 100,  1/125 sec @  f/13

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4285.htm

Comments  welcome

-- 
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It's actually pretty  interesting. I think I'd clone out the tree tops and 
crop it a bit to put more  focus on IT, make it bolder. It could make a dandy 
print. 

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Re: pdml.net mailing list memberships reminder ~ comments

2007-02-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/1/2007 2:48:26 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I never have problems with the  list, but thought you'd like to know 
about duplicates.

keith  whaley


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*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-01 Thread Mark Erickson
All, 

After nearly 2 years, I'm still happy with my *ist-Ds (except for the name, 
of course).  I'm getting results I like (even without Shake Reduction) and 
I'm really comfortable with it as a tool.  I shoot only raw and have a 
post-processing workflow that I find fast and easy. 

Soo, for all of you *ist-D[x] users out there who have upgraded to 
K10D's, can you comment on image quality improvements (or lack thereof) 
between the two camera generations?  Does 10 really beat 6 in the real 
world?  Your thoughts? 

Thanks, 

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In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread jtainter
Plus a little other information:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693

Joe



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Making profit on eBay....

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Hamilton
smc Pentax FA-31mm ltd - $1100!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Pentax-SMCP-FA-31mm-F1-8-AL-Limited-RARE-MINT_W0QQitemZ270081795322QQihZ017QQcategoryZ106877QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Considering it's a few hundred dollars less brand new... and not out
of production...  Someone's got some cash to throw around!

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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
420 mm. It's the total focal length that determines the displacement. With the 
A2X-S converter on my A 400/5.6 I set it to 800mm. I've handheld it at 1/250th. 
Once or twice, I even got acceptable results at 1/125th. It works.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Interesting.
 But I wonder if, for example a 300mm lens with a 1.4 converter, should have 
 the SR set for a 300mm lens or 420mm (1.4 X 300) lens ?
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: The need to manually set SR
 
 
  On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:47 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
  It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the
   lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR
  adjustment  screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set
  it to 600.  I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works
  nicely.
  Paul
 
 
  Ah now, is that an A series lens, or A series converter? Because
  it's not
  working with AF lenses and AF converter, it's just transmitting the
  lens
  data straight through and setting SR automatically, with no option
  in the
  menu structure to change SR, it's 'greyed out' so to speak!
 
 
  If the lens fitted supplies the focal length data, I don't believe
  there is any way to override the setting. That includes the lens plus
  teleconverter.
 
  Pentax-A Rear Converters do not supply the focal length data so you
  can set it manually. That's the only one I have. However, this topic
  came up on DPReview.com and one person posted his experience with the
  Pentax-F 1.7AF adapter and the Sigma 2x APO TC ...
 
  thread link:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
  forum=1036message=21831766
  ---
  Forum  DPReview.com Pentax SLR Talk
  Subject  Re: Teleconvertors  anti-shake focal lengths
  Posted by  McBrian  [CLICK FOR PROFILE]
  Date/Time  6:44:59 PM, Saturday, January 27, 2007 (GMT)
 
 
 
  Hi all, haven't digested all of the thread, so sorry if I'm repeating
  anything, hope some of this may be of interest.
 
  I just received a Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor today, got for a very very
  nice price and it's in as new condition too. I already have a Sigma
  2x APO so I wondered how the K10D SR and EXIF differs between them,
  well here are a few quick conclussions.
 
  Penatx SMC-F 1.7X Adaptor
  When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x adaptor you are
  promted at switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4
  mounted the adjusted aperture of f2.8-40 is selectable/displayed in
  VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the
  SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens
  does AF though.
 
  When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x after switch on you
  can set the desired focal length by going into the Shake Reduction
  menu and select whatever focal length you wish, with the DA16-45 f4
  mounted the adjusted aperture of f6.7-40 is selectable/displayed in
  VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the
  SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens
  does AF though.
 
  Sigma 2x APO
  When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC you are promted at
  switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4 mounted an
  aperture of f1.4-22 is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF. No
  corrections to Aperture but the focal length selected is displayed in
  the the EXIF. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected.
 
  When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC after switch on
  you cannot set the desired focal length, the Shake Reduction menu is
  greyed out, with an FA24-90 mounted the aperture range as stated on
  the lens is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF, No corrections to
  Aperture or focal length in VF or EXIF
 
  If you switch on with only the Sigma 2x attached you are promted for
  a focal length but this is over ridden as soon as you attach an AF lens.
  ---
 
  So behavior will differ based on the teleconverter and the primary
  lens fitted.
 
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peso: Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement

2007-02-01 Thread Sandra Hermann
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3401/display/7850379

Where are we finding the subjects for pug now?  I keep looking but I can't 
seem to figure it out on my own.  (no I am not blonde)

It was a sad day in my life yesterday I took most of my photo equipment to 
Creve Cour camera to sell it.  I kept my *st ds, my pentax lenses, and my 
yashica matt.  I am hoping to get enough out of the equipment to buy the new 
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Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
I have found the K10D offers considerable advantages compared to my D. For one, 
I shoot a lot of indoor available light photography. The two extra stops that 
SR give me are very valuable for this type of work, ditto for shooting birds 
with a handheld 400. The higher resolution has also proved to be a boon, 
particularly when cropping. I can make a vertical out of a horizontal without 
sacrificing a lot. I feel my 11 x 17 prints show more detail as wel, although I 
haven't done a direct comparison. The Tav shooting mode is great. Moving from 
shade to sun no longer requires fumbling with the ISO. Or moving from one room 
to another when shooting indoors. Variable ISO is a huge plus.
Paul
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From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 All, 
 
 After nearly 2 years, I'm still happy with my *ist-Ds (except for the name, 
 of course).  I'm getting results I like (even without Shake Reduction) and 
 I'm really comfortable with it as a tool.  I shoot only raw and have a 
 post-processing workflow that I find fast and easy. 
 
 Soo, for all of you *ist-D[x] users out there who have upgraded to 
 K10D's, can you comment on image quality improvements (or lack thereof) 
 between the two camera generations?  Does 10 really beat 6 in the real 
 world?  Your thoughts? 
 
 Thanks, 
 
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Re: PESO: 50's Creamer

2007-02-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Marne. Yesterday, after scanning, I checked the bottom edge to
see if the scanner had cropped the bottom a bit, but found it hadn't.
IOW, I agree.
I got an off-list critique which included the suggestion that the
shadow might be too strong. I considered the shadow to be a major
element, and found the camera needed a higher angle to give it a form I
liked.
This slide has gone back into its secondary storage crypt where it is
likely to spend eternity. 
These comments may read like a criticism of your remarks..they're NOT.
Sincerely appreciate and value your thoughts.

Jack
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 2/1/2007 6:40:29 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So you'll know where I am on this,  I consider it sort of a playful
 attempt at cute. The form of the mouth, its  total stance and
 shadow I
 find pleasing. FTR, I don't feel it's a 'strong'  image.
 I have absolutely no emotional investment in it and guarantee that 
 I'll
 find no comment offensive. Just curious as to what it may elicit.
 It  won't come up again.
 
 Jack
 --- Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Sorting through some secondary slide storage, I came across  this
 and
  found that I still consider some of its shapes  pleasing.
  Guess it doesn't matter where you find them.
  
   Jack
  
  Comments welcome!
  
   http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=217
 
 
 Oh,  in that case... ;-)
 
 The bottom edge of the creamer is too close to the  bottom edge of
 the 
 picture. 
 
 Actually, I feel this MIGHT be an  interesting subject and
 background, but I 
 don't think you got the best angle on  it. Something a little closer,
 a little 
 lower down, or something, I feel could  have made it cuter.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)  
 
 
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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

 But I wonder if, for example a 300mm lens with a 1.4 converter,  
 should have
 the SR set for a 300mm lens or 420mm (1.4 X 300) lens ?

If you fit a teleconverter behind a lens, the proper setting for the  
shake reduction should be the combination of lens and teleconverter  
focal length. So, for instance, a 300mm lens plus a 2x teleconverter  
constitutes a 600mm lens, and that's what the SR should ideally be  
set to work for.

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Re: *ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Mark Erickson wrote:

 Soo, for all of you *ist-D[x] users out there who have upgraded to
 K10D's, can you comment on image quality improvements (or lack  
 thereof)
 between the two camera generations?  Does 10 really beat 6 in the real
 world?  Your thoughts?

Yes. Particularly for when you are making A3 and larger prints and/or  
working with finely detailed scenes, the K10D gives you more data to  
work with in rendering the photograph.

The difference is not enormous ... max of about 29% in linear  
resolution ... so if you're making smallish prints (up to 8x12) it  
will be difficult to see.

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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread John Francis

It should have the SR focal length set to 420mm; that's the
only way it knows how angular rotation of the camera affects
the position of the image on the sensor.

Unfortunately that's not possible with an AF lens mounted on
a TC (such as the Sigma APO TCs) which passes the FA signals.

This means I can't use SR if I'm using my my AF TCs :-(
Pentax really need to come up with a way for the user to
indicate that a TC is in use.  It wouldn't be bad if they
also eventually release an AF TC of their own (hopefully
one that works with the new DA* lenses, while I'm dreaming ...)



On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:26:07PM -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote:
 Interesting.
 But I wonder if, for example a 300mm lens with a 1.4 converter, should have 
 the SR set for a 300mm lens or 420mm (1.4 X 300) lens ?
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: The need to manually set SR
 
 
  On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:47 AM, John Whittingham wrote:
  It's in the menus. I think in custom functions. But if you mount the
   lens and turn SR on before turning the camera on,  the SR
  adjustment  screen will appear when you turn the camera on. Just set
  it to 600.  I've set it to 800 with my 400 and 2X converter. Works
  nicely.
  Paul
 
 
  Ah now, is that an A series lens, or A series converter? Because
  it's not
  working with AF lenses and AF converter, it's just transmitting the
  lens
  data straight through and setting SR automatically, with no option
  in the
  menu structure to change SR, it's 'greyed out' so to speak!
 
 
  If the lens fitted supplies the focal length data, I don't believe
  there is any way to override the setting. That includes the lens plus
  teleconverter.
 
  Pentax-A Rear Converters do not supply the focal length data so you
  can set it manually. That's the only one I have. However, this topic
  came up on DPReview.com and one person posted his experience with the
  Pentax-F 1.7AF adapter and the Sigma 2x APO TC ...
 
  thread link:
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
  forum=1036message=21831766
  ---
  Forum  DPReview.com Pentax SLR Talk
  Subject  Re: Teleconvertors  anti-shake focal lengths
  Posted by  McBrian  [CLICK FOR PROFILE]
  Date/Time  6:44:59 PM, Saturday, January 27, 2007 (GMT)
 
 
 
  Hi all, haven't digested all of the thread, so sorry if I'm repeating
  anything, hope some of this may be of interest.
 
  I just received a Pentax 1.7x AF Adaptor today, got for a very very
  nice price and it's in as new condition too. I already have a Sigma
  2x APO so I wondered how the K10D SR and EXIF differs between them,
  well here are a few quick conclussions.
 
  Penatx SMC-F 1.7X Adaptor
  When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x adaptor you are
  promted at switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4
  mounted the adjusted aperture of f2.8-40 is selectable/displayed in
  VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the
  SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens
  does AF though.
 
  When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Pentax-F 1.7x after switch on you
  can set the desired focal length by going into the Shake Reduction
  menu and select whatever focal length you wish, with the DA16-45 f4
  mounted the adjusted aperture of f6.7-40 is selectable/displayed in
  VF and EXIF, the EXIF also displays the focal length selected in the
  SR menu. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected, the lens
  does AF though.
 
  Sigma 2x APO
  When you mount an SMC-A lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC you are promted at
  switch on for the focal length, with the SMC-A50 f1.4 mounted an
  aperture of f1.4-22 is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF. No
  corrections to Aperture but the focal length selected is displayed in
  the the EXIF. MF is lit in the VF even though AF is selected.
 
  When you mount an F/FA/DA lens to a Sigma 2x APO TC after switch on
  you cannot set the desired focal length, the Shake Reduction menu is
  greyed out, with an FA24-90 mounted the aperture range as stated on
  the lens is selectable/displayed in VF and EXIF, No corrections to
  Aperture or focal length in VF or EXIF
 
  If you switch on with only the Sigma 2x attached you are promted for
  a focal length but this is over ridden as soon as you attach an AF lens.
  ---
 
  So behavior will differ based on the teleconverter and the primary
  lens fitted.
 
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RE: My K10D arrived

2007-02-01 Thread Jens Bladt
So it seems, Boris.
It's truely a joy to use this camera. I haven't felt this comfortable with a
camera since I got my fist PZ-1 in 1992.
I like the MZ-S (a little cumbersome) and I like the *ist D (a little slow).
But the K10D is very responsive and fast - it feels like home :-)
Regards

Jens Bladt
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Emne: Re: My K10D arrived


Jens Bladt wrote:
 ...BTW:
 When Photoshop CS opens the files, they turn from lanscape to portrait
mode
 to landscape mode (these portrait shots did) automatically!
 Is this magic or does the camera know which side was up?

Jens, this is black or black/silver magic depending on the lens color
;-). Seriously however - after using my K10D for just a bit more than a
month I should say that it seems Pentax crammed into this body most if
not all current technology bells and whistles.

Boris

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Re: peso: Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
Ebay is fairly simple. You can get a book at Amazon or a brick and mortar book 
store. I think they have online instructions as well. 
Paul
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From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Truthfully, I have no idea how to do that.  I have thougth of doing it that 
 way, but I am basically computere illiterate so it scares me.
 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: peso:  Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement
 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:36:14 +
 
 Nice shot of Sami!
 Why not sell your equipment on ebay? You'll probably net a lot more for it.
 Paul
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 From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3401/display/7850379
  
   Where are we finding the subjects for pug now?  I keep looking but I 
 can't
   seem to figure it out on my own.  (no I am not blonde)
  
   It was a sad day in my life yesterday I took most of my photo equipment 
 to
   Creve Cour camera to sell it.  I kept my *st ds, my pentax lenses, and 
 my
   yashica matt.  I am hoping to get enough out of the equipment to buy the 
 new
   digital
  
  
  
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OT: Online photo editing tool

2007-02-01 Thread Juan Buhler
This seems very cool:

http://picnik.com/app
(flash required)

It's an online photo editing tool. It will load pictures from your
Flickr account if you have one, and can save back to it.  Very simple
editing, but it's very fast.

Just thought it could be of interest.

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Re: The need to manually set SR

2007-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 1, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Perry Pellechia wrote:

 If the lens fitted supplies the focal length data, I don't believe
 there is any way to override the setting. That includes the lens plus
 teleconverter.

 Sure there is,  just tape over the lens mount contacts.

Sure, go ahead. You'll lose MTF line and other data reported from  
lens to body as well. Might be worth it to you, but the statement was  
made in the context of camera functions presuming standard  
utilization of the camera and lens rather than mucking about with  
fooling the camera.

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Re: peso: Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement

2007-02-01 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot of Sami!
Why not sell your equipment on ebay? You'll probably net a lot more for it.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3401/display/7850379
 
 Where are we finding the subjects for pug now?  I keep looking but I can't 
 seem to figure it out on my own.  (no I am not blonde)
 
 It was a sad day in my life yesterday I took most of my photo equipment to 
 Creve Cour camera to sell it.  I kept my *st ds, my pentax lenses, and my 
 yashica matt.  I am hoping to get enough out of the equipment to buy the new 
 digital
 
 
 
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*ist-Ds Vs. K10D image quality?

2007-02-01 Thread Walter Hamler
Does 10 really beat 6 in the real world?  Your thoughts?

A resounding yes!.  I was very happy with my DL, still have it. But the 
image smoothness is the first thing that grabbed me. I bought an Epson R1800 
printer right after ordering the K10. I enter prints for competition in our 
camera club. Quite a few folks noticed that my prints, even at 11x17 and 13 
x19, looked really great. They asked which camera I was using. Most were 
agahst when I told them Pentax. I did not know they made dslr's! Those 
prints look better than my Canon (or Nikon) does.
A friend who shoots a D200 has told me several times that the print quality 
I get is better than any dslr prints he has seen. Me thinks that maybe he 
needs to learn how to print?? :-)

Walt


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Re: peso: Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement

2007-02-01 Thread Sandra Hermann
Truthfully, I have no idea how to do that.  I have thougth of doing it that 
way, but I am basically computere illiterate so it scares me.



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Subject: Re: peso:  Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:36:14 +

Nice shot of Sami!
Why not sell your equipment on ebay? You'll probably net a lot more for it.
Paul
  -- Original message --
From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3401/display/7850379
 
  Where are we finding the subjects for pug now?  I keep looking but I 
can't
  seem to figure it out on my own.  (no I am not blonde)
 
  It was a sad day in my life yesterday I took most of my photo equipment 
to
  Creve Cour camera to sell it.  I kept my *st ds, my pentax lenses, and 
my
  yashica matt.  I am hoping to get enough out of the equipment to buy the 
new
  digital
 
 
 
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Re: OT Looks like gmail is not getting to the pdml, sooooo

2007-02-01 Thread David J Brooks
Don't know.

I have made 20-30 replies and 7-8 threads in the last 3-4 days, and  
nothing other than in my sent mail.

Dave

Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Odd--other peoples' gmail posts are going through
 fine.

 --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Back to Horde Mail i quess. My threads and replies
 to threads all seem
 to get to Gmail, but they don't show up on the
 archives, the digest,
 or this Horde mail i left open to check.

 I sent quite a few over the last few days.

 To bad. I was just getting used to it.

 Dave

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Re: Another guy with too much spare time

2007-02-01 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 02/02/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had one, but Rob poo-pooed it. Now I don't have one anymore.

Sorry Bill ;-)

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Re: OT Looks like gmail is not getting to the pdml, sooooo

2007-02-01 Thread Perry Pellechia
Dave,
Check to see if you are sending new posts with plain text.  gmail
defaults to rich text for new messages.  When you reply to a message
it stays in the same format as the original, but new messages are rich
text and will be rejected by the list server unless you change the
defaults.

Perry.

On 2/1/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't know.

 I have made 20-30 replies and 7-8 threads in the last 3-4 days, and
 nothing other than in my sent mail.

 Dave

 Quoting Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Odd--other peoples' gmail posts are going through
  fine.
 
  --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Back to Horde Mail i quess. My threads and replies
  to threads all seem
  to get to Gmail, but they don't show up on the
  archives, the digest,
  or this Horde mail i left open to check.
 
  I sent quite a few over the last few days.
 
  To bad. I was just getting used to it.
 
  Dave
 
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Re: In case you were waiting for the 645D...

2007-02-01 Thread npx
 Plus a little other information:
 
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21896693


Personally, I'm not too upset that the 645D is on hold for a little while.  
Regular dSLRs are much more profitable, and Pentax seems to be on a roll right 
now.  Plus, if what they say about the dSLR market stabilizing in a couple 
years is true, they could hold off with the 645D and release it when people 
might actually consider it or need it.

Plus plus, sensor quality may go up and/or prices may come down in that time, 
making the 645D a better competitor.

Of course, this is all just speculation and should be taken with a giant chunk 
of salt.  Still, if I have the money when it does come out, I might consider 
buying it.  It'd be cheaper than shooting with my 6x7.

John

(lunch break's over) :(

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Re: peso: Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement

2007-02-01 Thread Sandra Hermann
Ok I will try it. I have other stuff I want to sell too.  I am a chicken 
though.



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Subject: Re: peso: Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:55:47 +

Ebay is fairly simple. You can get a book at Amazon or a brick and mortar 
book store. I think they have online instructions as well.
Paul
  -- Original message --
From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Truthfully, I have no idea how to do that.  I have thougth of doing it 
that
  way, but I am basically computere illiterate so it scares me.
 
 
 
  http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154
 
 
 
 
 
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  Subject: Re: peso:  Sami on Carousel , a question, and a statement
  Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:36:14 +
  
  Nice shot of Sami!
  Why not sell your equipment on ebay? You'll probably net a lot more for 
it.
  Paul
-- Original message --
  From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3401/display/7850379
   
Where are we finding the subjects for pug now?  I keep looking but I
  can't
seem to figure it out on my own.  (no I am not blonde)
   
It was a sad day in my life yesterday I took most of my photo 
equipment
  to
Creve Cour camera to sell it.  I kept my *st ds, my pentax lenses, 
and
  my
yashica matt.  I am hoping to get enough out of the equipment to buy 
the
  new
digital
   
   
   
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