Re: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread Thibouille
I don't think it would be a Limited candidate.
It would probably be more suited to a DA* nomenclature, IMO.

2007/3/9, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 A DA 28/2.0 would be more expensive and therefore fit in the range of
 limited lenses. There doesn't seem to be room in current Pentax ranges
 for a straight-forward non-limited 28/2.8 prime lens (unfortunately).

 Henk

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  Subject: Re: Lens Roadmap
 
 
  Of course they could.  My A28/2.0 took a 49mm filter.
 
  Shel
 
 
   [Original Message]
   From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 
   I think they could design a 28mm f/2 that would still fit a 49mm
   diameter filter. I want it the same size as a 43 Limited,
  or as close
   as sensibly possible, with the same styling/finish as the
  DA21, DA70
   and FA43...
  
   But I'm not demanding. ;-)
  
   G



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Re: New Sony

2007-03-09 Thread Thibouille
No way Ken, not a Z1P. I wouldn't call it a pretty camera but noway is it ugly.
I'd vote for A3000 or SFX, not sure.

We should make a poll: prettiest and ugliest Pentax camera :)

2007/3/9, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 3/08/07 6:43 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You are not the only one who thinks so, of course.  Why do you think others
  won't think that way?  What's wrong in chatting about the shape or anything
  else.

 BTW, the ugliest camera I encountered so far (at the time) was PZ-1p but
 it gave me what I wanted and I loved it.  Even though we joke around what
 looks to be an old style pentaprism in steroid of Sony's mockup, I am sure
 anyone in this list would pick it up if it offers what he wants.  So,
 please.. :-).

 Ken


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Re: Sigma DP1

2007-03-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
In this case, all else is NOT being held equal. FourThirds viewfinder is 
smaller and/or fainter due to smaller sensor size.
Once again the faster lens just compensates for that handicap, no gain.

Dario

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 Even if all else is being held equal due to other factors, a faster lens
 is still
 better than a slower lens in terms of viewfinder brightness because your
 eyes
 always have the same sensitivity even if the crappy 4/3 sensor doesnt...

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 I understand...

 However at minimal ISO the noise is about as good as regular APS
 cameras, right? Then, for this case only, the f/2 zoom would be
 beneficial, isn't it?

 Boris


 Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

 It's pretty simple. The 4/3rds cameras are noisy at moderate ISO's.
 400
 on a 4/3rds body is as noisy as 800-1600 on a larger sensor. So you
 need
 faster lenses to be able to shoot in the same light with similar
 amounts
 of noise. Thus the f2 zooms get you no real boost in speed, since
 they
 only make up for the lower ISO necessary due to the noisy sensor.

 My thought exactly.

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FA:Tokina 400 AT-X SMC K/500

2007-03-09 Thread John Taylor
PDML ers,
Since its Friday I'll post a shameless plug on my  eBay auction items  
for K-mount telephotos lenses ending on Sunday.

Tokina AT-X 400/5.6:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=STRK% 
3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=150098938936rd=1rd=1

Pentax K/500/4.5:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-SMC-K-500mm-f4-5-Super-telephoto-Prime- 
Lens  
MF_W0QQitemZ150098933702QQcategoryZ4688QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView 
Item

Both are nice lenses I hate to part with, but I'm working on a major  
enablement so they must go.
Thanks for looking,

JayT


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Re: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:29:39 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
 On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:04 PM, John Whittingham wrote:
 
  On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 00:32:07 +0100, Henk Terhell wrote
  A DA 28/2.0 would be more expensive and therefore fit in the range of
  limited lenses. There doesn't seem to be room in current Pentax
  ranges for a straight-forward non-limited 28/2.8 prime lens
  (unfortunately).
 
  So just get yourself the FA 28mm f/2.8.
 
 I consider myself fairly lucky to have found a new (demo) one of  
 these recently. They've been out of stock at most vendors for months 
  at least.
 
 Godfrey

I've seen a few go on the dreaded auction site recently here in the UK, I got 
chance yesterday to use it for the first time on the K10D, it usualy gets 
left at home because of the Tamron 28-75. I can clearly see why you like this 
lens Godfrey, I'm very pleased with the performance especially the flat field 
characteristics, even at the closest focusing distance. Here's a sample shot 
of one of the lenses I'm selling:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5697523size=lg

Regards, 

John



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RE: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread Henk Terhell
I will. The question is, where? Both N* and C* do still have 28/2.8
lenses at affordable prices and there is a C* 28/1.8.
For Pentax there is of course a Sigma 28mm F 1.8 EX DG Asf Macro but
that looks about the size of my DA 16-45.
Meanwile I use the FA 35/2 (excellent) and Sigma 24/2.8 (but it's
quality is not so impressive).

Henk

 
 So just get yourself the FA 28mm f/2.8.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:57:55 -0500, Doug Franklin wrote
 John Francis wrote:
 
  But I don't carry the 250-600 and the 300/f2.8 at the same time;
  one stays back at base.  Even then by the end of the day I'm beat -
  with the 25-600, the 80-200, a couple of bodies, and a few more
  other odds-and-ends I'm starting out with 25lbs or more of stuff
  (and I'll swear it gets heavier by the end of the day).
 
 Too bad you're on the opposite coast, John.  If you were closer by I
 could hook you up with some good dealers for golf carts.  They can be
 life savers, particularly at hilly tracks like Sears Point (Infineon 
 ?) and Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca and (for me) Road Atlanta and VIR.  
 If you've got a long bed pickup truck, you can drive the cart right 
 up into the truck.
 
 I'm not sure how much weight I haul around the track, but it's
 significant.  Two bodies, 16-45, 50-200, FA* 200, F* 300, Sigma 400,
 monopod and head, spare batteries, assorted odds and ends, image 
 tank, ...  and that doesn't even count stuff like rain gear, food 
 and drink, spare smokes ...
 
 Geez, even just the camera-related gear is probably heavier than I
 thought it was. :-)
 
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Hi Doug

That's got to be the best use for a golf cart I've heard of 8) 

I'm not sure it would do anything for my street cred here in the UK though. 
The main problem here is I usualy travel by motorcycle to race meets, beats 
the hell out of sitting in traffic jams, parking and camping if needed is 
cheaper and more convenient.

Regards,

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Yet another K10D review...

2007-03-09 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
...and another 'default-jpg' quality complaint.

For the rest, a good opinion.

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k10d-review/index.shtml





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RE: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:06:34 +0100, Henk Terhell wrote
 I will. The question is, where? Both N* and C* do still have 28/2.8
 lenses at affordable prices and there is a C* 28/1.8.
 For Pentax there is of course a Sigma 28mm F 1.8 EX DG Asf Macro but
 that looks about the size of my DA 16-45.
 Meanwile I use the FA 35/2 (excellent) and Sigma 24/2.8 (but it's
 quality is not so impressive).
 
 Henk

Personally I wouldn't touch the Sigma 28mm f/1.8, but I think the Sigma 24 
f/2.8 (manual focus) is very good optically, is it the build you're not 
impressed with?

The FA35/2 is very impressive, I wouldn't part with mine.

John



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Re: PESO: Construction

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:47:53 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote
 I'm kind of liking this. But most interestingly, it shows off the 
 capabilities of the DA 12-24 and the K10D. 

No argument there Paul, very impressed. I can feel LBA setting in 8)

John



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Re: PESO: Construction

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:13:39 +0100, John Whittingham wrote
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:47:53 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote
  I'm kind of liking this. But most interestingly, it shows off the 
  capabilities of the DA 12-24 and the K10D.
 
 No argument there Paul, very impressed. I can feel LBA setting in 8)
 
 John

The DA70 is also figuring very strongly to plug the gap between FA50/1.4 and 
Sigma EX 105/2.8.

John



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RE: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread Henk Terhell
I got the Sigma AF Super Wide II 24/2.8 which is a convenient small
lens, as replacement of my FA 35/2 (of which I also won't part) for
digital. Some pics of the Sigma lens have disappointed me but I may not
have given it a fair chance yet.
I would prefer a light weight 28 mm when hiking.

Henk
 
 Personally I wouldn't touch the Sigma 28mm f/1.8, but I think 
 the Sigma 24 
 f/2.8 (manual focus) is very good optically, is it the build 
 you're not 
 impressed with?
 
 The FA35/2 is very impressive, I wouldn't part with mine.
 
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Re: New Sony

2007-03-09 Thread Cotty
It is the desire of most civilised societies to have the freedom to
express their views,  and there is no fault here. What there is, is a
difference of cultural exchange. In America, it is part and parcel of
the culture to express a view even if that view does not necessarily
move the discussion on in a positive way, whereas in other parts of the
world it is perceived to be inconsiderate to express a belief that
appears to denigrate.

This is the cost of a world-wide list, and unmoderated. The positive
aspects of such (in my opinion ;-) far outweigh the disadvantages, and
so we must try and deal with it.

We all like a bit of silliness now and again, and I am no exception. I
enjoy reading nonesense about how ugly a camera looks, and I certainly
enjoy Ken's posts.

I also enjoy reading of the extremely technical nature of digital
photography, and I equally enjoy reading Godfrey's posts.

So, here is a pretend post that probably would never happen here on this
list - look at the content, and think about it, and think how the reply
might seem offensive to someone from a culture slightly less 'up front
and in your face'

POST A:

Vibrating components is by far the best method of cleaning DSLR sensors,
as the vertical and horizontal movement of the sensor at a high
frequency means that small particles of dust and detritus are forced off
the sensor and onto the sticky surface below where they are collected.
Having to use Pec-pads and such is such a chore in comparison and I
would recommend anyone to buy a DSLR with this feature.

POST B:

What da heck do I care how it cleans? I want to know what it  
looks like ...
Does it have a nice rounded prism cover? what the accessories look like?
what the grip feels like?  
are what are important to me.


Just playing devil's advocate here.



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Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available

2007-03-09 Thread Cotty
On 8/3/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

LOL ... My eyes filled in the missing t ... thanks for the laugh,  
Cotty. ;-)

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RE: PESO:The Missing link

2007-03-09 Thread Bob W
  
  thanks. I've just now republished the main Staithes site, 
 so it would
  help if you could check that too - it's derived from large raw
files
  rather than dinky camera jpegs.
  
  http://web-options.com/Staithes2007/
  
  Thanks for pointing the problem out and helping to resolve it.
  
 
 That's fine also.  I'm glad to have the opportunity to look 
 through other than the thumbs.  You were up and about early.  
 Nice sunrises.
 
 'appen.
 

Aye.

Glad you enjoyed them. I was up early every day, but until the last
one I just peered out of the window, saw the clouds, and went back to
bed. I ought to go to bed now - was managing a work crisis until 4am,
but now it's too light to sleep.

I think I've gone to the extreme in reducing the size of the files -
large areas of flat colour, such as blue sky, show some banding, so
I'll tweak around until it's gone, but the file remains small.

Ta,
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Re: Buying a monopod

2007-03-09 Thread Carlos Royo
Boris Liberman escribió:
 Hi!
 
 I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically
 Slik 350 and
 Manfrotto 680.


I have a Manfrotto 479-4B plus 234 RC head and a Slik Easypod. Both of 
them are good, but the Manfrotto is more solid and can also be used as a 
self-defence weapon if needed.

 Any specifics I should be looking for or both are acceptable.
 
 Mainly I am going to use it with 80-320 towards 320 mm of course. And
 generally a bit of (mobile) support won't hurt me.
 

I had the FA 80-320 (sold it 3 months ago), and being a light lens, any 
of the monopods you're looking at would be enough. In fact, I have used 
that lens, mounted on the MZ-S with the monopods I have and it has 
worked like a charm.

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Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread Bob Shell
Do you suffer from TLS?  (Tiny Lens Syndrome)

If so, Sigma has the cure:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp

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Re: Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:16:56 -0500, Bob Shell wrote
 Do you suffer from TLS?  (Tiny Lens Syndrome)
 
 If so, Sigma has the cure:
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp
 
 Bob

Brings on BFO lens syndrome.

John



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Re: Buying a monopod

2007-03-09 Thread Nick Wright
Here's the 3018 at Adorama, $51:
http://www.adorama.com/BG681.html?searchinfo=bogen%20monopoditem_no=3

On 3/8/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I recall, the 3018/3218/whatever-it-is that I have was between US$
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Re: Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread K.Takeshita
On 3/09/07 7:16 AM, Bob Shell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you suffer from TLS?  (Tiny Lens Syndrome)
 
 If so, Sigma has the cure:
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp

Batteries not included but the camera is.

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Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Walter Hamler
Bruce Dayton wrote:

It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.

Actually one of my images that is in the Gallery is a scanned image. I 
explained why in the notes section and I guess they accepted the reason.

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Re: New Sony

2007-03-09 Thread Bertil Holmberg

Looks a bit like the grotesque Mamiya lighthouse, not something I  
would like to be seen in public with...

Bertil

 It does appear to have a larger pentaprism, which means?


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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Walter Hamler wrote:

Bruce Dayton wrote:

It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.

Actually one of my images that is in the Gallery is a scanned image. I 
explained why in the notes section and I guess they accepted the reason.

10 of my accepted images are scans from slides or negatives.


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Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG

2007-03-09 Thread Doug Franklin
John Whittingham wrote:

 The main problem here is I usualy travel by motorcycle to race
 meets, beats the hell out of sitting in traffic jams, parking
 and camping if needed is cheaper and more convenient.

Yeah, you'd look pretty funny pulling a trailer with golf cart with a
motorcycle. ;-)

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Re: Buying a monopod

2007-03-09 Thread Doug Franklin
Nick Wright wrote:
 Here's the 3018 at Adorama, $51:
 http://www.adorama.com/BG681.html?searchinfo=bogen%20monopoditem_no=3
 
 On 3/8/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I recall, the 3018/3218/whatever-it-is that I have was between US$
 100 and 150, at least four or five years ago.

It turns out that's the 3018 and I have the 3218.  The only difference
between them is the 3218 is black where the 3018 is silver/chrome.  And
the price drop figures.  As someone else mentioned, this thing could
definitely be used as a bludgeon if necessary.  Fully extended, it's
tall than my eye can reach the viewfinder on the camera.  I'm about 5'
9 or 5' 10 tall.

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Re: Buying a monopod

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have a video head on my monopod. It provides plenty of tilt. Tilt is 
necessary when shooting birds high in trees.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 12:16 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 I have used monopods for many years without heads.
 since the thing only has one leg, its pretty easy
 to adjust it as needed without a head. I dont even
 think I would want a head on one...Verticals can
 be done with a simple L-bracket on the camera on a monopod
 too.
 jco

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 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:05 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Buying a monopod


 Godfrey, the Manfrotto that I mentioned is sold without any additions
 (no head, no quick release) for $85 here.

 I may have to buy a quick release and a head, but probably later.
 Alternatively I could try to dismount the head and quick release from
 the Slik tripod that I have and attach it to the monopod, though it 
 then

 will be ugly and bulky ;-). I do want a ball head though ;-).

 Boris



 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Mar 8, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically Slik 350 and

 Manfrotto 680.

 Any specifics I should be looking for or both are acceptable.

 Mainly I am going to use it with 80-320 towards 320 mm of course. And

 generally a bit of (mobile) support won't hurt me.

 What do you say?

 I was out walking with the DA50-200 the other day and realizing that
 I want a monopod or tripod for any focal length over 100mm in order
 to ensure adequate camera stability. I've played with the Slik and
 didn't like it's leg latches much.

 This is the one I'd get:

 Bogen / Manfrotto 681B 3 Section Monopod (Black) with 3229 Swivel/
 Tilt Head (RC2 Quick Release)
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?
 O=WishList.jspA=detailsQ=sku=353315is=REG
 or
http://tinyurl.com/25wve4

 You do need a head, even just a simple one, to allow both horizontal
 and vertical orientation. The QR on the 3229 is compatible with my
 two other Manfrotto heads (it takes the same plates) and is very
 sturdy. I have the simpler 3223 model but that doesn't have the QR
 clamp, which is important for ease of use in the field.

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Re: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, most minilab processors are set up for srgb.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 When I worked in a lab using a Fuji processor, adobe RGB gave me a 
 terrible
 blue cast.  Switching to sRGB fixed the problem.  This was with the 
 IstD

 Bill

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 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:43 PM
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 Subject: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

 Hi Pentaxians
 still struggling on the new digital way I made this first flash shot 
 with
 the AF280T in auto mode and bounced to the wall on the K10D
 set at ISO 100 and F5.6 of Leo Leu Lowenzahn. I cropped it a bit and
 sharpened in Photoshop but I'm still unable to set the tonal range as 
 good
 in the
 raw converter as in Photoshop. That will have too wait a bit too.
 Experimenting with Adobe RGB, sRGB and ProPhotoRGB color space settings
 leaves me confused enough for today. Too much reading
 I will have to go out tomorrow for some close-ups, that little 18-55mm 
 Kit
 lens will come handy for some first landscape test shots.

 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/leoleu1.jpg

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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I loaded a scanned 6x7 image just the other day. No problem.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 1:53 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.  I believe it is
 reading the exif data and not finding a pentax camera listed.  I
 originally got one scanned image accepted before they listed the *istD
 as a camera.  Once they fixed that, it seems that scanned images are
 no longer accepted.  I wrote to them a couple of days ago and they
 replied that they would pass on the problem to the programming staff.

 --  
 Bruce


 Thursday, March 8, 2007, 2:05:12 PM, you wrote:

 JD I'm getting frustrated and declined images. Reason, not taken  
 with a
 JD Pentax camera. Not true..of course.
 JD I'm not being given the chance to enter the equipment used.
 JD After multiple attempts with the same images, I've had seven  
 accepted
 JD which are in a to be reviewed category, I believe it's termed.
 JD Another seven are simply not being allowed due to the  
 aforementioned
 JD not taken with Pentax.

 JD I emailed the question to Pentax yesterday, but nothing back yet.

 JD Anyone having a like experience?

 JD Jack




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Re: Shake reduction

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Quite impressive. Love the colors here.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 1:47 AM, John Francis wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 07:16:52PM -0800, Bill Lawlor wrote:
 I posted two photos from my trip to India during January at
 www.photo.net/photos/wvl I used my new (aren't they all?) K10D and 
 F28/2.8
 wide open in the night market.That SR really works.

 Doesn't it, though?
 I was out today wandering around Los Gatos at lunchtime.
 My main purpose for the trip was to get this week's shot
 for my PAW gallery:

 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0710

 It was only after I'd finished procesing the image, and
 came to enter the exposure details, that I noticed this
 had been taken with a shutter speed of 1/8th of a second.


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FS: Pentax MZ5n, lenses, ...

2007-03-09 Thread Thomas Clausen
Howdy,

I've been lurking here for years, and it seems that Fridays are the  
preferred days to post stuff-for-sale. So, in hoping that I do not  
offend anyone, I'll post a careful reference to some Pentax gear that  
has become redundant:

http://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Thomas.Clausen/For%20Sale

There's Olympus stuff on that page too, however the Pentax section  
contains:

Pentax FA 28-80
Pentax FA 35-80
Pentax FA 100-300

Pentax Cable Switch F - New In Box (NIB)
Soft case for MZ-5n (ZX5n)

Pentax MZ-5n (ZX5n) body

I have no idea what reasonable prices would be for any of the above,  
however if you are interested do send me an email and we will work  
out something. The stuff is located in France, but I can ship world- 
wide.

Here's to hoping that I've not broken list etiquette.

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Re: Jodhpur Market

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful color. They capture the spirit of the market.
Paul


 On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Bill Lawlor wrote:

 I posted two photos from my trip to India during January at
 www.photo.net/photos/wvl I used my new (aren't they all?) K10D and
 F28/2.8
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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Jack Davis
That helps to know. It had been hit and miss getting the scans to take,
but after uploading a K10D shot, nothing further has been accepted.
Obviously hope they get it untangled soon.

Jack
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.  I believe it is
 reading the exif data and not finding a pentax camera listed.  I
 originally got one scanned image accepted before they listed the
 *istD
 as a camera.  Once they fixed that, it seems that scanned images are
 no longer accepted.  I wrote to them a couple of days ago and they
 replied that they would pass on the problem to the programming staff.
 
 -- 
 Bruce
 
 
 Thursday, March 8, 2007, 2:05:12 PM, you wrote:
 
 JD I'm getting frustrated and declined images. Reason, not taken
 with a
 JD Pentax camera. Not true..of course.
 JD I'm not being given the chance to enter the equipment used.
 JD After multiple attempts with the same images, I've had seven
 accepted
 JD which are in a to be reviewed category, I believe it's termed.
 JD Another seven are simply not being allowed due to the
 aforementioned
 JD not taken with Pentax.
 
 JD I emailed the question to Pentax yesterday, but nothing back yet.
 
 JD Anyone having a like experience?
 
 JD Jack
 
 
 
  
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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Jack Davis
I get declines before getting the notes page.

Jack
--- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bruce Dayton wrote:
 
 It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.
 
 Actually one of my images that is in the Gallery is a scanned image.
 I 
 explained why in the notes section and I guess they accepted the
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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Jack Davis
I've had six film scans and one digital accepted. 

Jack 
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Walter Hamler wrote:
 
 Bruce Dayton wrote:
 
 It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.
 
 Actually one of my images that is in the Gallery is a scanned image.
 I 
 explained why in the notes section and I guess they accepted the
 reason.
 
 10 of my accepted images are scans from slides or negatives.
 
 
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Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:38:33 -0500, Doug Franklin wrote
 John Whittingham wrote:
 
  The main problem here is I usualy travel by motorcycle to race
  meets, beats the hell out of sitting in traffic jams, parking
  and camping if needed is cheaper and more convenient.
 
 Yeah, you'd look pretty funny pulling a trailer with golf cart with a
 motorcycle. ;-)
 
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 Thanks,
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LOL, I've seen the Germans pulling beer barrels (on wheels) with their bikes 
at the TT.

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RE: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:53:38 +0100, Henk Terhell wrote
 I got the Sigma AF Super Wide II 24/2.8 which is a convenient small
 lens, as replacement of my FA 35/2 (of which I also won't part) for
 digital. Some pics of the Sigma lens have disappointed me but I may not
 have given it a fair chance yet.
 I would prefer a light weight 28 mm when hiking.
 
 Henk

I've heard the focusing helicoid is the weak link in that particular model AF 
Sigma, I have no experience of it myself though.

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Advice on repair of SMC-M 50mm/f4 Macro

2007-03-09 Thread Perry Pellechia
I hit the jackpot at my University's surplus yesterday and rescued
three A28mm/f2.8, a A50mm/f2 and a M50mm/f4 macro that were destined
for the metal salvage yard.  I am most excited about the macro lens
because I have read some nice comments about it in the archive.

After some inspection the M50/4 looks pretty good optically.  After
cleaning it up a bit I mounted it on the *istD and took some test
shots and really like the results.  However, the focusing binds at a
few different points.  At first I thought it was a lubrication issue
but close inspection shows a small dent in the body.  The dent is
right at the seam that runs around the body and is opposite the
focusing scale.

The question I have for those of you that have taken this (or a
similar) lens apart; is it worth trying a DIY fix on it?  Since I did
not spend any money on the lens, I am not interested in sending the
lens out for repair but would be willing to spend a few hours on it if
I could straighten it out.

My other option is to just keep using it as-is since the binding is
not all that bad and macro focusing is usually tuned by moving the
camera anyway.

I appreciate any advice.

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Re: Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Mar 9, 2007, at 4:16 AM, Bob Shell wrote:

 Do you suffer from TLS?  (Tiny Lens Syndrome)

 If so, Sigma has the cure:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp

Huge. But is it ugly?

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RE: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

2007-03-09 Thread Markus Maurer
Indeed sRGB seems to be the easiest way, if I change Photoshop to Adobe RGB
or PhotoProRGB I get these washed out JPG savings no matter if I choose
SFW or save as -- JPG.  I wonder how much information gets lost in press
print with sRGB, the tutorial I saw on the web is quite impressive and show
a
huge loss in color space with sRGB compared to Adobe RGB or even better
PhotoProRGB.

Has somebody with a high end printer ever tried the different color spaces
on a printer, I wonder if I really have to choose PhotoProRGB for my
calendar project to get rich and deep colors as promised

Have a look at:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml
.
But when I can't see all the colors on the monitor for proofing I'm a bit
afraid of getting color cast and unprintable colors later as a nasty
surprise.
Decisions, decisions, I want more time to  t a k e photographs instead ;-)

greetings
Markus


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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:20 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash


When I worked in a lab using a Fuji processor, adobe RGB gave me a terrible
blue cast.  Switching to sRGB fixed the problem.  This was with the IstD

Bill

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:43 PM
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Subject: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

Hi Pentaxians
still struggling on the new digital way I made this first flash shot with
the AF280T in auto mode and bounced to the wall on the K10D
set at ISO 100 and F5.6 of Leo Leu Lowenzahn. I cropped it a bit and
sharpened in Photoshop but I'm still unable to set the tonal range as good
in the
raw converter as in Photoshop. That will have too wait a bit too.
Experimenting with Adobe RGB, sRGB and ProPhotoRGB color space settings
leaves me confused enough for today. Too much reading
I will have to go out tomorrow for some close-ups, that little 18-55mm Kit
lens will come handy for some first landscape test shots.

http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/leoleu1.jpg

greetings
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new K100D doesn't work

2007-03-09 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
I got a new Pentax K100D with 18-55mm lens yesterday at Hunt's Photo
and Video in Melrose, Mass. It just doesn't work. It turns on,
auto-focuses and the
shutter fires but the pictures come out dark, almost black. The only time I can
get something is if I shoot directly at a light source.

Anyone have an idea what is happening? I tried to reset the menus and tried
new batteries but nothing helped.

Thanks!
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FS Friday K50/1.2 - Winder MX

2007-03-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi gang,

There's a K50/1.2 sitting in the lens cabinet that I've rarely used.  I got
it about three years go, it had a good CLA from a reputable repair guy, and
has seen only light service since then.  When it came back from the repair
shop I was told that there is a tiny nick on the rear element.  I had to
look a bit to find it, and hadn't noticed it before, so it really is small.
Compared to a couple of other 50mm lenses, I see no evidence that this nick
has caused any degradation in the results produced by this lens.  However,
because it's less than perfect, I'll offer it at a less than perfect
price - $275.00 plus shipping anywhere in the world.  Don't like the price?
Make an offer.  Don't be bashful. No Paypal payments.  Pics available later
in the day - just ask.

Also offering the Winder MX.  It's on eBay now.  Bid early, bid often, bid
high LOL

http://tinyurl.com/2crgla
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280091956784

Please contact me off  list.  Thanks!


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Prettiest/Ugliest Pentax Equipment (was RE: New Sony)

2007-03-09 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Thibouille

I share your taste with the SFX series but to be fair, these ugly bodies
have served me very well over the last years.
Maybe it was it's look and size and weight that made them unwanted and
available very cheap second hand. But
the SFXn has some inner qualities.


If we talk about ugliness, I strongly vote for the F-series lenses, I really
hate how they look and feel.
The most beautiful lenses must be some of the M42 Takumar series, I vote for
the SMC 85mm 1.8!

greetings
Markus



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No way Ken, not a Z1P. I wouldn't call it a pretty camera but noway is it
ugly.
I'd vote for A3000 or SFX, not sure.

We should make a poll: prettiest and ugliest Pentax camera :)

2007/3/9, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 3/08/07 6:43 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You are not the only one who thinks so, of course.  Why do you think
others
  won't think that way?  What's wrong in chatting about the shape or
anything
  else.

 BTW, the ugliest camera I encountered so far (at the time) was PZ-1p but
 it gave me what I wanted and I loved it.  Even though we joke around what
 looks to be an old style pentaprism in steroid of Sony's mockup, I am sure
 anyone in this list would pick it up if it offers what he wants.  So,
 please.. :-).

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Re: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread Adam Maas
Superb optics, not so good construction. I own one in AI-S mount, and 
love the results, but the aperture ring is balky and the rubber focus 
ring grip is shedding.

-Adam


Henk Terhell wrote:
 I got the Sigma AF Super Wide II 24/2.8 which is a convenient small
 lens, as replacement of my FA 35/2 (of which I also won't part) for
 digital. Some pics of the Sigma lens have disappointed me but I may not
 have given it a fair chance yet.
 I would prefer a light weight 28 mm when hiking.
 
 Henk
 Personally I wouldn't touch the Sigma 28mm f/1.8, but I think 
 the Sigma 24 
 f/2.8 (manual focus) is very good optically, is it the build 
 you're not 
 impressed with?

 The FA35/2 is very impressive, I wouldn't part with mine.

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Re: Lens Roadmap

2007-03-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mar 9, 2007, at 12:55 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

 ... So just get yourself the FA 28mm f/2.8.

 ..I've seen a few go on the dreaded auction site recently here in  
 the UK, I got
 chance yesterday to use it for the first time on the K10D, it  
 usualy gets
 left at home because of the Tamron 28-75. I can clearly see why you  
 like this
 lens Godfrey, I'm very pleased with the performance especially the  
 flat field
 characteristics, even at the closest focusing distance. Here's a  
 sample shot
 of one of the lenses I'm selling:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5697523size=lg

Yes, an excellent performer. It would be great if Pentax would just  
fit it with a DA lens mount. (Same for the FA43 Limited.) I'd buy  
these two lense again if they did that, although I'd prefer an 28mm f/ 
2 replacement.

Meanwhile, the FA28/2.8 and FA43/1.9 have replaced the use of the  
FA35/2 and FA50/1.4 in my lens kit.

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photo on photo net

2007-03-09 Thread J
Being a long time lurker, I thought it was time to put some photos 
up. Anyway the first one up is on photo.net/photos/pjjdxn..It was 
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FS: camera equipment

2007-03-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have a range of equipment that I no longer use much scheduled to be  
put on Ebay this weekend. Anyone interested in any of these items  
should contact me directly via email for more information.

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/ForSale-Camera/

Some notes:

- All lenses, cameras are in as new condition.

- There are no item descriptions there, just pictures. The Lensbaby  
is for Canon EOS mount, the Really Right Stuff L-bracket fits the  
Canon 10D body.

- Regards the Pentax FA lenses: they all include the box with  
original paperwork and caps, the 35mm includes a case and hood as  
well. Due to current scarcity on these lenses, the going rate for  
them is very near retail list (and sometimes higher!) on completed  
Ebay auctions. Retail list prices at BH are:

   FA35/2 AL - $300
   FA50/1.4 - $230
   FA135/2.8 IF $330

I will entertain any offers but I cannot afford to let them go for  
deep discounts.

- The Pentax F50/1.7 box photo is just that: a nearly perfect box for  
an F50/1.7, there is no lens included. I don't recall when or how I  
acquired it. I thought it might be of interest to someone who is  
collecting Pentax gear and has an F50/1.7 without a box.

best,
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RE: funky composition

2007-03-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
yeah, I didnt like any more truncation of the pool
at all which is why I left the trees in on the left.
Cropping the water on the right seems to force too much imbalance
on the image in foreground/bottom which means even more
cropping to get rid of that.
jco

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Importance: High


Have your tried cropping the tree on the left and the water on the
right?

Bill

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Subject: funky composition

If I had to title this one, it would
be funky composition. I cant seem
to make anything out of it no matter
how I try crop/frame it, yet I still find it
interesting for some reason. weird

http://www.jchriso.com/temp/bocapool.jpg

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RE: funky composition

2007-03-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Well if I had shot this on 4x5 all that might be possible,
but this is only a 6MP dslr image so the extreme cropping
wont work, just not enough resolution to maintain reasonable
image quality to do that.
jco

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J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 I know what you mean, there is a lot going on,
 but the pool itself is cool as are the umbrellas,
 the sunbathers, the lone guy in the shade, the bar, etc, its just all 
 together the elements add up to a really funky composition dont they?

Yeah, but I think the sub-photos might be better when isolated from
that shot.  For example, statue-backed-by-pool and
tight-on-the-umbrellas.

In fact, this scene and the subscenes might lend themselves to a
somewhat different presentation, like some sort of collage of the
overall and the specific.

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Re: Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread Christian
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030805sigma200500mm.asp
 
 Huge. But is it ugly?

Someone on naturescapes.net suggested it and the Stanley cup were 
seperated at birth: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/cup98/cup03.jpg

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/Sigma/sigma200500mm-big.jpg


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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

I get declines before getting the notes page.

I think they're still working out the bugs in their server-side and 
client-side scripting. Every image I submit goes immediately into the 
Awaiting Submission category due to lack of image data, even if it's 
a directly converted JPEG from a PEF raw file. The camera model and all 
the exposure data show up - even lens focal length - but the lens model 
doesn't. I have no idea why because I can see the lens data when I use 
Photoshop or IrfanView to check the EXIF. 

So I click Edit Info and select the Lens Series drop-down box to 
indicate if it's an M, A, FA or whatever. But after this the Lens 
choice box is still empty. So I Save and go back to my Photos page 
where the image is still Awaiting Submission. Now I can click Edit 
Info again. It remembers the lens series I chose before and now gives 
me a drop-down menu of all the lenses in that series. At this point I 
can select the appropriate lens and complete the form. 

After this the image gets accepted and is Ready for Review.

So it ends up being a 3-step process:
1) Upload Image
2) Edit Info to choose lens series (and add image title  category)
3) Edit Info to select specific lens

It's really much less onerous that it appears when written out and I 
don't consider it a big deal, but it's an indication that the gallery 
is really still in beta testing. Of course it is. That's why it's not 
open to the public yet.

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RE: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

2007-03-09 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Paul
I assume your Epson 2200/2400 works with sRGB too? Most consumer scanner
or print equipment does, right?
Have you ever tried comparing different color spaces on high end printers?
I wonder how much I would loose -- in print  -- with typical mountain
landscapes if I switch everything to sRGB.

 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml shows quite
a loss with sRGB but I'm a bit afraid of managing inivisible colors on my
monitor

greetings
Markus


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash


Yes, most minilab processors are set up for srgb.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 When I worked in a lab using a Fuji processor, adobe RGB gave me a
 terrible
 blue cast.  Switching to sRGB fixed the problem.  This was with the
 IstD

 Bill

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Markus Maurer
 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:43 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

 Hi Pentaxians
 still struggling on the new digital way I made this first flash shot
 with
 the AF280T in auto mode and bounced to the wall on the K10D
 set at ISO 100 and F5.6 of Leo Leu Lowenzahn. I cropped it a bit and
 sharpened in Photoshop but I'm still unable to set the tonal range as
 good
 in the
 raw converter as in Photoshop. That will have too wait a bit too.
 Experimenting with Adobe RGB, sRGB and ProPhotoRGB color space settings
 leaves me confused enough for today. Too much reading
 I will have to go out tomorrow for some close-ups, that little 18-55mm
 Kit
 lens will come handy for some first landscape test shots.

 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/leoleu1.jpg

 greetings
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Re: Prettiest/Ugliest Pentax Equipment (was RE: New Sony)

2007-03-09 Thread Joe Wilensky
There seems to be an almost lovely clunky functionality to the SFX 
series now -- they seem so wedded to their time, a late-1980s, funky 
LCD-and-switches style.

I initially thought  the PZ-1/PZ-1p series were ugly bulbous plastic 
blobs but I later came to love their form factor, ergonomics and size 
-- and this is from someone who has a huge appreciation for the older 
Pentaxes as well, from the SV through the K series, LX and Super A. I 
just consider the more modern bodies a different animal.

Joe


Hi Thibouille

I share your taste with the SFX series but to be fair, these ugly bodies
have served me very well over the last years.
Maybe it was it's look and size and weight that made them unwanted and
available very cheap second hand. But
the SFXn has some inner qualities.


If we talk about ugliness, I strongly vote for the F-series lenses, I really
hate how they look and feel.
The most beautiful lenses must be some of the M42 Takumar series, I vote for
the SMC 85mm 1.8!

greetings
Markus



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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:03 AM
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No way Ken, not a Z1P. I wouldn't call it a pretty camera but noway is it
ugly.
I'd vote for A3000 or SFX, not sure.

We should make a poll: prettiest and ugliest Pentax camera :)

2007/3/9, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 3/08/07 6:43 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You are not the only one who thinks so, of course.  Why do you think
others
   won't think that way?  What's wrong in chatting about the shape or
anything
   else.

  BTW, the ugliest camera I encountered so far (at the time) was PZ-1p but
  it gave me what I wanted and I loved it.  Even though we joke around what
  looks to be an old style pentaprism in steroid of Sony's mockup, I am sure
  anyone in this list would pick it up if it offers what he wants.  So,
  please.. :-).

  Ken


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RE: Sigma DP1

2007-03-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
a smaller focussing screen will NOT be dimmer/
fainter just because its smaller. It would only
become dimmer/fainter for a given lens speed
if it is magnified more to match a larger screen
visually.
jco

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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:34 AM
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Subject: Re: Sigma DP1


In this case, all else is NOT being held equal. FourThirds viewfinder is

smaller and/or fainter due to smaller sensor size.
Once again the faster lens just compensates for that handicap, no gain.

Dario

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From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:11 AM
Subject: RE: Sigma DP1


 Even if all else is being held equal due to other factors, a faster 
 lens is still better than a slower lens in terms of viewfinder 
 brightness because your eyes
 always have the same sensitivity even if the crappy 4/3 sensor
doesnt...

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of Boris Liberman
 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:01 AM
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 Subject: Re: Sigma DP1


 I understand...

 However at minimal ISO the noise is about as good as regular APS 
 cameras, right? Then, for this case only, the f/2 zoom would be 
 beneficial, isn't it?

 Boris


 Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

 It's pretty simple. The 4/3rds cameras are noisy at moderate ISO's. 
 400 on a 4/3rds body is as noisy as 800-1600 on a larger sensor. So 
 you
 need
 faster lenses to be able to shoot in the same light with similar
 amounts
 of noise. Thus the f2 zooms get you no real boost in speed, since
 they
 only make up for the lower ISO necessary due to the noisy sensor.

 My thought exactly.

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RE: Yet another K10D review...

2007-03-09 Thread Markus Maurer
I found the review to be fair but recommending a 1GB memory card a bit
nonsense.
thanks for the link Jaume.
greetings
Markus


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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Yet another K10D review...


...and another 'default-jpg' quality complaint.

For the rest, a good opinion.

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/pentax/k10d-review/index.shtml





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Re: Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/9/2007 7:45:53 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone on naturescapes.net  suggested it and the Stanley cup were 
seperated at birth:  http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/cup98/cup03.jpg

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/Sigma/sigma200500mm-big.jpg


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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Jack Davis
Looking forward to further refinement of the program.
All my images that were successfully entered are in ready for review
status.

Jack
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 I get declines before getting the notes page.
 
 I think they're still working out the bugs in their server-side and 
 client-side scripting. Every image I submit goes immediately into the
 
 Awaiting Submission category due to lack of image data, even if
 it's 
 a directly converted JPEG from a PEF raw file. The camera model and
 all 
 the exposure data show up - even lens focal length - but the lens
 model 
 doesn't. I have no idea why because I can see the lens data when I
 use 
 Photoshop or IrfanView to check the EXIF. 
 
 So I click Edit Info and select the Lens Series drop-down box to 
 indicate if it's an M, A, FA or whatever. But after this the Lens 
 choice box is still empty. So I Save and go back to my Photos page 
 where the image is still Awaiting Submission. Now I can click Edit
 
 Info again. It remembers the lens series I chose before and now
 gives 
 me a drop-down menu of all the lenses in that series. At this point I
 
 can select the appropriate lens and complete the form. 
 
 After this the image gets accepted and is Ready for Review.
 
 So it ends up being a 3-step process:
 1) Upload Image
 2) Edit Info to choose lens series (and add image title  category)
 3) Edit Info to select specific lens
 
 It's really much less onerous that it appears when written out and I 
 don't consider it a big deal, but it's an indication that the gallery
 
 is really still in beta testing. Of course it is. That's why it's not
 
 open to the public yet.
 
 They'll get the bugs worked out.
 
 
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Re: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

2007-03-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The advantage of using Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB is that the larger  
colorspace allows more editing capability without clipping,  
preserving the integrity of the image data. With sRGB, you can  
rapidly lose data in doing simple curves and other tonal  
manipulations. These losses add up in successive edits. For the  
greatest possible editing flexibility, set your RAW output  
quantization to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ProPhoto RGB colorspace.

Printers and screens don't have that much gamut to work with so a  
translation must be made to the appropriate colorspace for those  
output devices. Photoshop uses the monitor profile to translate from  
the colorspace of the data to the screen for editing purposes. You  
can see clipping when it occurs as you edit in the histogram, not on  
the screen.

When you print, to obtain the truest match to what you see on your  
screen with Photoshop you must print using a color managed workflow.  
You tell Photoshop to drive the printer and control color management,  
pick the correct match in Paper/Ink profiles for your specific  
printer model, inkset and paper, and Photoshop will translate the  
image data to that output device using the intent you specify. The  
intents that work best for photographic work are Perceptual or  
Relative Colormetric: they produce the least amount of data loss and  
the closest match to the screen rendering. The only way to know how  
they differ with a given image, far as I am concerned, is to test  
print using each of them and see how the translation works for that  
image. In this printing workflow, you must also have the ability to  
turn OFF the color management at the printer driver level otherwise  
you will be translating the color metrics twice with unpredictable  
results.

If your printer driver does not support turning off color management,  
the best results I've seen are to do a colorspace conversion to sRGB  
and then 16bit to 8bit reduction up front, to most closely simulate  
what the output device will image the data as, and then print using  
the Let Printer Manage colors so that the printer driver is  
accepting a known baseline color gamut in the data you're sending it.  
You can then use the driver's controls to manipulate the output  
rendering to your taste.

I find the color managed print workflow to be much more consistent  
and repeatable, presuming good monitor calibration/profiling, proper  
set up of Photoshop's color management settings, and good quality  
paper/ink profiles for a given printer and inkset. However, the  
bottom line in print quality is always dependent upon what works best  
for the equipment and configuration for you ... Once you come to a  
setup and workflow that works, you save yourself a lot of headaches  
and waste by standardizing on it and working with it, regardless of  
theoretical considerations.

Godfrey



On Mar 9, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Markus Maurer wrote:

 Indeed sRGB seems to be the easiest way, if I change Photoshop to  
 Adobe RGB
 or PhotoProRGB I get these washed out JPG savings no matter if I  
 choose
 SFW or save as -- JPG.  I wonder how much information gets lost in  
 press
 print with sRGB, the tutorial I saw on the web is quite impressive  
 and show
 a
 huge loss in color space with sRGB compared to Adobe RGB or even  
 better
 PhotoProRGB.

 Has somebody with a high end printer ever tried the different color  
 spaces
 on a printer, I wonder if I really have to choose PhotoProRGB for my
 calendar project to get rich and deep colors as promised

 Have a look at:
 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml
 .
 But when I can't see all the colors on the monitor for proofing I'm  
 a bit
 afraid of getting color cast and unprintable colors later as a nasty
 surprise.
 Decisions, decisions, I want more time to  t a k e photographs  
 instead ;-)


 When I worked in a lab using a Fuji processor, adobe RGB gave me a  
 terrible
 blue cast.  Switching to sRGB fixed the problem.  This was with  
 the IstD

 ..Experimenting with Adobe RGB, sRGB and ProPhotoRGB color space  
 settings
 leaves me confused enough for today. Too much reading
 I will have to go out tomorrow for some close-ups, that little  
 18-55mm Kit
 lens will come handy for some first landscape test shots.

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I Give Up

2007-03-09 Thread Jack Davis
TH WI, please..somebody?

I'd like to load firmware 1.11, but have not been successful so far.

In my downloads:

DENG_Camera_RAW_3_7 2/21
FWD162B   2/22
k10e111w   3/8
POSE_502_patch er3/2
READ ME 2/28

Yes, I've dbl clicked and read READ ME. Guess I don't relate to the
language.
Against my better judgment, I've tried about three combinations without
success. This has been done with a freshly formatted SD card in the
reader. 

I've then installed a fully charged battery, turned off the camera,
transferred the SD card to the camera and turned it on while holding in
the menu button. All I've seen in the LCD screen has been a reminder
that 1.10 has been installed.
(I tried the trailing curtain and doesn't appear to work).

Which and in what order do I enter..if any?

Please, when anyone has the time, I'm, AGAIN, pleading for dumbed down
help.

THANKS!

Jack





 

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Re: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I haven't tried printing from srgb. I get good results with Adobe 98, 
so I'm happy. I have converted files to srgb for minlab processing. 
That seems to work fine.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Markus Maurer wrote:

 Hi Paul
 I assume your Epson 2200/2400 works with sRGB too? Most consumer 
 scanner
 or print equipment does, right?
 Have you ever tried comparing different color spaces on high end 
 printers?
 I wonder how much I would loose -- in print  -- with typical mountain
 landscapes if I switch everything to sRGB.

  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml shows 
 quite
 a loss with sRGB but I'm a bit afraid of managing inivisible colors 
 on my
 monitor

 greetings
 Markus


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Paul Stenquist
 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:41 PM
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 Subject: Re: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash


 Yes, most minilab processors are set up for srgb.
 Paul
 On Mar 9, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 When I worked in a lab using a Fuji processor, adobe RGB gave me a
 terrible
 blue cast.  Switching to sRGB fixed the problem.  This was with the
 IstD

 Bill

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
 Of
 Markus Maurer
 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:43 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: PESO:just a first K10D test photo with flash

 Hi Pentaxians
 still struggling on the new digital way I made this first flash shot
 with
 the AF280T in auto mode and bounced to the wall on the K10D
 set at ISO 100 and F5.6 of Leo Leu Lowenzahn. I cropped it a bit and
 sharpened in Photoshop but I'm still unable to set the tonal range as
 good
 in the
 raw converter as in Photoshop. That will have too wait a bit too.
 Experimenting with Adobe RGB, sRGB and ProPhotoRGB color space 
 settings
 leaves me confused enough for today. Too much reading
 I will have to go out tomorrow for some close-ups, that little 18-55mm
 Kit
 lens will come handy for some first landscape test shots.

 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/leoleu1.jpg

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Re: new K100D doesn't work

2007-03-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Gaurav Aggarwal
Subject: new K100D doesn't work


I got a new Pentax K100D with 18-55mm lens yesterday at Hunt's Photo
 and Video in Melrose, Mass. It just doesn't work. It turns on,
 auto-focuses and the
 shutter fires but the pictures come out dark, almost black. The only time 
 I can
 get something is if I shoot directly at a light source.

 Anyone have an idea what is happening? I tried to reset the menus and 
 tried
 new batteries but nothing helped.

Take it back for replacement.

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Re: I Give Up

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:44:53 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis wrote
 TH WI, please..somebody?
 
 I'd like to load firmware 1.11, but have not been successful so far.
 
 In my downloads:
 
 DENG_Camera_RAW_3_7 2/21
 FWD162B   2/22
 k10e111w   3/8
 POSE_502_patch er3/2
 READ ME 2/28
 
 Yes, I've dbl clicked and read READ ME. Guess I don't relate to the
 language.
 Against my better judgment, I've tried about three combinations without
 success. This has been done with a freshly formatted SD card in the
 reader.
 
 I've then installed a fully charged battery, turned off the camera,
 transferred the SD card to the camera and turned it on while holding 
 in the menu button. All I've seen in the LCD screen has been a reminder
 that 1.10 has been installed.
 (I tried the trailing curtain and doesn't appear to work).
 
 Which and in what order do I enter..if any?
 
 Please, when anyone has the time, I'm, AGAIN, pleading for dumbed 
 down help.
 
 THANKS!
 
 Jack

Hi Jack

Copy FWD162B to the freshly formatted SD card, then proceed as stated:

 I've then installed a fully charged battery, turned off the camera,
 transferred the SD card to the camera and turned it on while holding 
 in the menu button. 

It should say loading on the screen IIRC, takes a couple of minutes to 
complete. If you then turn the camera on holding in the menu button as before 
is should show the later 1.11 firmware revision, remember to remove the SD 
card containing the update first.

Hope this helps,

John



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RE: Prettiest/Ugliest Pentax Equipment (was RE: New Sony)

2007-03-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The prettiest camera pentax ever made by far
was the first spotmatic in black (without
the ugly hot shoe every camera since about
'75 now has). The damn thing ought to be
in a museum of fine art for it's sculpture.
jco

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Subject: Prettiest/Ugliest Pentax Equipment (was RE: New Sony)


Hi Thibouille

I share your taste with the SFX series but to be fair, these ugly bodies
have served me very well over the last years. Maybe it was it's look and
size and weight that made them unwanted and available very cheap second
hand. But the SFXn has some inner qualities.


If we talk about ugliness, I strongly vote for the F-series lenses, I
really hate how they look and feel. The most beautiful lenses must be
some of the M42 Takumar series, I vote for the SMC 85mm 1.8!

greetings
Markus



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No way Ken, not a Z1P. I wouldn't call it a pretty camera but noway is
it ugly. I'd vote for A3000 or SFX, not sure.

We should make a poll: prettiest and ugliest Pentax camera :)

2007/3/9, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 3/08/07 6:43 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You are not the only one who thinks so, of course.  Why do you think
others
  won't think that way?  What's wrong in chatting about the shape or
anything
  else.

 BTW, the ugliest camera I encountered so far (at the time) was PZ-1p

 but it gave me what I wanted and I loved it.  Even though we joke 
 around what looks to be an old style pentaprism in steroid of Sony's 
 mockup, I am sure anyone in this list would pick it up if it offers 
 what he wants.  So, please.. :-).

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Re: Buying a monopod

2007-03-09 Thread graywolf
I have a Gitzo I picked up used, it is tall enough for Cotty (g). I love 
my Manfrotto (Bogan) tripod but I do not like joint latches sticking out 
on a mono-pod. I use it with a Manfrotto (Bogan) medium ball head. I 
also use it as a hiking staff at times.

-graywolf


 Boris Liberman wrote:
 
 I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically
 Slik 350 and
 Manfrotto 680.

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Re: PESO:HelpHopeCrime

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/8/2007 6:19:46 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Pentaxians

Help,Hope and  Crime:
the second test shot with my new K10D and a manual Tamron 90mm  macro  of a
sprayed wall in the industrial (drug zone) part of  Zurich:

http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/helphopecrime.jpg

greetings
Markus


Interesting  mural. Good shot.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  

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Re: I Give Up

2007-03-09 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis
Subject: I Give Up


 TH WI, please..somebody?

Hi Jack.
You download the file named k10e111w.exe.

This is an executable program, so run it (double click on a typical Windows 
system).
This will extract 2 files.
One is the readme.txt, the other is FWDC1628.bin.
But the .bin fil onto a blank SD card and put the card into your camera.
Hold the menu button down while turning on the camera, and the camera will 
ask you if you want to update the firmware.
Chose the yes option with the 4 way switch and push the OK button.
The firmware will update.
Once the firmware is updated, turn the camera off and remove the card.
I then put the card into a reader and delete the file, I expect you could 
format the card in camera to do the same thing.

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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
One of my scanned images from film has already been accepted in the
gallery.  That was a an earlier upload.  At this point, it doesn't
seem to want to accept any scanned images.  I think the software is
still being worked on and will continue to undergo some problems and
fixes.

-- 
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Friday, March 9, 2007, 4:58:51 AM, you wrote:

WH Bruce Dayton wrote:

WH It seems that right now, scanned images don't work.

WH Actually one of my images that is in the Gallery is a scanned image. I
WH explained why in the notes section and I guess they accepted the reason.

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Re: new K100D doesn't work

2007-03-09 Thread David Savage
Take the lens cap off.

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/9/07, Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I got a new Pentax K100D with 18-55mm lens yesterday at Hunt's Photo
 and Video in Melrose, Mass. It just doesn't work. It turns on,
 auto-focuses and the
 shutter fires but the pictures come out dark, almost black. The only time I 
 can
 get something is if I shoot directly at a light source.

 Anyone have an idea what is happening? I tried to reset the menus and tried
 new batteries but nothing helped.

 Thanks!
 Gaurav

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Re: I Give Up

2007-03-09 Thread David Savage
I assume that your copying the extracted firmware k10e111w.BIN file
into the root directory of the SD card and not into the DCIM of
100PENTAX folder.

Just checking.

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/10/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TH WI, please..somebody?

 I'd like to load firmware 1.11, but have not been successful so far.

 In my downloads:

 DENG_Camera_RAW_3_7 2/21
 FWD162B   2/22
 k10e111w   3/8
 POSE_502_patch er3/2
 READ ME 2/28

 Yes, I've dbl clicked and read READ ME. Guess I don't relate to the
 language.
 Against my better judgment, I've tried about three combinations without
 success. This has been done with a freshly formatted SD card in the
 reader.

 I've then installed a fully charged battery, turned off the camera,
 transferred the SD card to the camera and turned it on while holding in
 the menu button. All I've seen in the LCD screen has been a reminder
 that 1.10 has been installed.
 (I tried the trailing curtain and doesn't appear to work).

 Which and in what order do I enter..if any?

 Please, when anyone has the time, I'm, AGAIN, pleading for dumbed down
 help.

 THANKS!

 Jack

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Re: I Give Up

2007-03-09 Thread David Savage
That wasn't very clearly written. Take 2:

I assume that your copying the extracted *.BIN file from k10e111w.exe,
into the root directory of the SD card and not into the DCIM or
100PENTAX folder.

On 3/10/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I assume that your copying the extracted firmware k10e111w.BIN file
 into the root directory of the SD card and not into the DCIM of
 100PENTAX folder.

 Just checking.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 On 3/10/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  TH WI, please..somebody?
 
  I'd like to load firmware 1.11, but have not been successful so far.
 
  In my downloads:
 
  DENG_Camera_RAW_3_7 2/21
  FWD162B   2/22
  k10e111w   3/8
  POSE_502_patch er3/2
  READ ME 2/28
 
  Yes, I've dbl clicked and read READ ME. Guess I don't relate to the
  language.
  Against my better judgment, I've tried about three combinations without
  success. This has been done with a freshly formatted SD card in the
  reader.
 
  I've then installed a fully charged battery, turned off the camera,
  transferred the SD card to the camera and turned it on while holding in
  the menu button. All I've seen in the LCD screen has been a reminder
  that 1.10 has been installed.
  (I tried the trailing curtain and doesn't appear to work).
 
  Which and in what order do I enter..if any?
 
  Please, when anyone has the time, I'm, AGAIN, pleading for dumbed down
  help.
 
  THANKS!
 
  Jack


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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
BTW, you might want to try a different browser. Some sites work better  
with one browser or another.
Paul
On Mar 9, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Looking forward to further refinement of the program.
 All my images that were successfully entered are in ready for review
 status.

 Jack
 --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack Davis wrote:

 I get declines before getting the notes page.

 I think they're still working out the bugs in their server-side and
 client-side scripting. Every image I submit goes immediately into the

 Awaiting Submission category due to lack of image data, even if
 it's
 a directly converted JPEG from a PEF raw file. The camera model and
 all
 the exposure data show up - even lens focal length - but the lens
 model
 doesn't. I have no idea why because I can see the lens data when I
 use
 Photoshop or IrfanView to check the EXIF.

 So I click Edit Info and select the Lens Series drop-down box to
 indicate if it's an M, A, FA or whatever. But after this the Lens
 choice box is still empty. So I Save and go back to my Photos page
 where the image is still Awaiting Submission. Now I can click Edit

 Info again. It remembers the lens series I chose before and now
 gives
 me a drop-down menu of all the lenses in that series. At this point I

 can select the appropriate lens and complete the form.

 After this the image gets accepted and is Ready for Review.

 So it ends up being a 3-step process:
 1) Upload Image
 2) Edit Info to choose lens series (and add image title  category)
 3) Edit Info to select specific lens

 It's really much less onerous that it appears when written out and I
 don't consider it a big deal, but it's an indication that the gallery

 is really still in beta testing. Of course it is. That's why it's not

 open to the public yet.

 They'll get the bugs worked out.


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RE: Soggy postcards

2007-03-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
He wasn't really kicked out, he bailed out. Mainly because he was treated
badly. The organisation he went with both sucks and blows. They recruit host
families by paying them money. Nothing wrong about that, but if the families
are paid too low, they don't provide the service needed. 

But me and my SO still wants to go. It is on hold, because we are getting a
new dog soon. The SO wants to go to Oxford. I think she has seen one Morse
episode to many ;-) 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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wilson
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Subject: RE: Soggy postcards


 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:57:32 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Soggy postcards
 
 Thanks for the free journey to the Staiths Bob. It sure looks like a nice
 place. 
 
 And this reminds me. My UK trip is cancelled, because my son is kicked out
 of the country. So this time it is no reason for us to go. 

They do that if you're caught supplying whale meat.  Still, it's a pity.


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RE: PESO: Incognito

2007-03-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
I assume you are referring to the PASDML David?


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Re: PESO: Incognito

On Mar 7, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Things are slow on the old list tonight.

That's because you weren't invited to the new list.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5687917size=lg

Sorry but photos of people eating don't do much for me.

- Dave


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Re: FS: camera equipment

2007-03-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:12:19 -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
 - Regards the Pentax FA lenses: they all include the box with  
 original paperwork and caps, the 35mm includes a case and hood as  
 well. Due to current scarcity on these lenses, the going rate for  
 them is very near retail list (and sometimes higher!) on completed  
 Ebay auctions. Retail list prices at BH are:
 
FA35/2 AL - $300
FA50/1.4 - $230
FA135/2.8 IF $330
 
 I will entertain any offers but I cannot afford to let them go for  
 deep discounts.

If I didn't already own the same they'd be on my shopping list, money well 
spent!

John



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Re: Do you suffer from TLS?

2007-03-09 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: Do you suffer from TLS?



 Someone on naturescapes.net  suggested it and the Stanley cup were
 seperated at birth:  http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/cup98/cup03.jpg

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/Sigma/sigma200500mm-big.jpg


It's actually Lord Stanley's sarcophagus.

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RE: Soggy postcards

2007-03-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
He wasn't really kicked out, he bailed out. Mainly because he was treated
badly. The organisation he went with both sucks and blows. They recruit host
families by paying them money. Nothing wrong about that, but if the families
are paid too low, they don't provide the service needed. 

But me and my SO still wants to go. It is on hold, because we are getting a
new dog soon. The SO wants to go to Oxford. I think she has seen one Morse
episode to many ;-) 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: Soggy postcards


 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:57:32 GMT
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Soggy postcards
 
 Thanks for the free journey to the Staiths Bob. It sure looks like a nice
 place. 
 
 And this reminds me. My UK trip is cancelled, because my son is kicked out
 of the country. So this time it is no reason for us to go. 

They do that if you're caught supplying whale meat.  Still, it's a pity.


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RE: new K100D doesn't work

2007-03-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Take the camera back to the store from which you purchased it.  There are
numerous things that could cause the problem, including user error.  Have
to store check out the camera and make sure you know what you're doing.

Shel

 [Original Message]
 From: Gaurav Aggarwal

 I got a new Pentax K100D with 18-55mm
 lens yesterday at Hunt's Photo and Video in 
 Melrose, Mass. It just doesn't work. It turns on,
 auto-focuses and the shutter fires but the pictures
 come out dark,  almost black. The only time I can 
 get something is if I shoot directly at a light source.

 Anyone have an idea what is happening? 
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RE: Simplified PS workflow

2007-03-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
But you have to Press 1 for English first ;-)

(First I was very puzzled by Shel new signature, and now this cryptic
message. Join PDML and become confused)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel
Belinkoff
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Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow

SFW does 1, 2, and 3 ...

Shel
Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! 


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 Date: 3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM
 Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow

 Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below 
 automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus.

 Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your 
 windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have 
 two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top 
 most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff 
 organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this 
 way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and 
 I am done.

 Boris



 graywolf wrote:
  1. Resample image to 72ppi.
  2. Change profile to sRGB.
  3. Change image to 8 bit.
  4. Save for Web and delete modified image.
  
  To go with that I revised my workflow so that raw images from the
camera 
  or one of the scanners go into a Raw Images folder on the Desktop. I 
  consider those to be my digital equivalent of negatives.
  
  Using Camera Raw I convert to PSD files which go into a PSD Images 
  folder on the Desktop. These are the working images to be edited to 
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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread David Savage
This is true. I couldn't get the site to work with Firefox so I ended
up using IE.

Cheers,

Dave

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RE: More dog pictures

2007-03-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
Are you serious about the ADHD thing? 

If that's common it might put me off. I deal a lot with ADHD at work, and my
stepson is a classic case. Bringing a ADHD dog into the family might be a
bit too much.


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Re: More dog pictures


- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Tainter
Subject: Re: More dog pictures


 Shot with the DA70mm LTD on the K10.

  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/bella/mar0407.html
  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/page3/page3.html


 These guys have too much energy. Hitch them to a sled.

We are going to start them on carting in the spring. By rights, I should 
have had them in harnesses pulling small objects already, but I am several 
months behind with my dogs at the moment.
Jester is a classic case of ADHD.

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Re: New Sony

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/9/2007 2:01:43 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It is the desire of most  civilized societies to have the freedom to
express their views,  and  there is no fault here. What there is, is a
difference of cultural exchange.  In America, it is part and parcel of
the culture to express a view even if  that view does not necessarily
move the discussion on in a positive way,  whereas in other parts of the
world it is perceived to be inconsiderate to  express a belief that
appears to denigrate.

Just playing devil's  advocate here.

Cheers,
Cotty

===
You make a  very good point, Cotty. Lot of us Americans are pretty darn 
blunt, and that  isn't the same everywhere. You're not just a jokester. Well, 
you're mainly a  jokester, but not just.

Marnie aka Doe ;-) (I was going to put in you're  not just a pretty face, but 
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Re: photo on photo net

2007-03-09 Thread Bong Manayon
Try again.  URL not found...

Bong

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Re: Simplified PS workflow

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/9/2007 8:19:27 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But you have to Press 1 for English  first ;-)

(First I was very puzzled by Shel new signature, and now this  cryptic
message. Join PDML and become confused)


Tim Typo
Mostly  harmless (just plain Norwegian)

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I've been confused by it  too. But in the US we are becoming a bilingual 
nation, the other language is  Spanish as the most rapidly growing segment of 
our 
population is Latino. Many  phone menus, practically all I've used recently, 
especially bank menus, have the  option for either English or Spanish. Press 1 
for English, in other words, on  phone menus is pretty common.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)  (Phone menus  having also become the norm, rather 
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Re: photo on photo net

2007-03-09 Thread David Savage
Drop the ..It from the link.

photo.net/photos/pjjdxn

Dave

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 Try again.  URL not found...

 Bong

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Re: FS: camera equipment

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/9/2007 7:16:45 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
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best,
Godfrey

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Sure you don't want to sell the  FA 20-35?

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Re: PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach, Revisited (several times)

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/8/2007 7:08:15 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I got a number of suggestions  on this and did a bit of playing around, 
(you can mess around endlessly and  never be satisfied).

First both and Tom and Tim didn't like the  crop.  So I cropped it in 
sort of a compromise between their  suggestions, (and Tom though it 
wasn't sharp enough, so I did a bit of  possibly in judicious 
sharpening).  The result is  this:

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbii.html

While  playing around I thought it looked like a fairly old fashioned 
beach scene  and decided to give it a BW treatment.  Converted using an 
red  filter.  (I re-cropped it because I kind of wanted to show the end 
of  the  Boardwalk).

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbiiibw.html

Finally  I wondered what it would look like if I gave it the kind of over 
the top  dramatic look you see in some of Ansel Addams'
later reprints so I increased  the contrast with a curves adjustment  layer.

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbiiibwhc.html

There  a little something for everyone.



I like the first  BW. BW works well for that scene, and I do like the crop 
better.  Although, maybe it's just me, but some of it seems oversharpened, 
i.e. with  artifacts. Anyway, the first BW is a big improvement on the 
original 
for  me.

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Re: Simplified PS workflow

2007-03-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Your call is important to use.  Please hold.

Please continue holding.

Your call is very important to use.  We'll be right with you.  Please
continue holding.

Please continue holding. 



Shel
Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! 


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Re: Pentax Gallery Question

2007-03-09 Thread Thibouille
Works fine here with Firefox v2.0.0.2.

2007/3/9, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 This is true. I couldn't get the site to work with Firefox so I ended
 up using IE.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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  BTW, you might want to try a different browser. Some sites work better
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Re: photo on photo net

2007-03-09 Thread Bong Manayon
Oh...its those two periods after the URL.  I thought your site was in
Italy... :-D

Bong

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 Try again.  URL not found...

 Bong

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  Being a long time lurker, I thought it was time to put some photos
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Re: Saturation/Sharpness/Contrast settings at Natural in K10D

2007-03-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
No problem. Still applies with jpeg.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: Saturation/Sharpness/Contrast settings at Natural in K10D


 Hi Kenneth
 I was a gross misunderstanding on my side of the raw processing bypassing
 all of these settings.
 Have a little patience with somebody coming from old film cameras ;-)

 I will shoot raw only and on my second day in the all digital world I'm 
 busy
 reading tutorials about the different raw converters at the moment :-)
 greetings
 Markus







 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: Saturation/Sharpness/Contrast settings at Natural in K10D


 What are your experiences with the settings for saturation, sharpness and
 contrast so far?
 I've left them all @ default.

 You have much better control in PS.


 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Saturation/Sharpness/Contrast settings at Natural in K10D


 Hi K10D users

 What are your experiences with the settings for saturation, sharpness and
 contrast so far?
 Can I just leave them at the default natural setting or would I even get
 better results lowering for ex. in camera sharpening (and/or
 saturation/contrast) and doing that as the last step in Photoshop after
 all
 other adjustments? I prefer natural, not oversaturated and oversharpened
 photos, that's why I ask :-)

 Just got the camera yesterday and had not enough time for experiments
 beside
 flashing with the AF280T

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Re: Simplified PS workflow

2007-03-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
As well as on ATM machines and, I suppose, other such devices.  I think the
Spanish-speaking population of California is, on the whole, approaching
50%, and in some areas even greater.  What we used to consider minorities
are now in the majority in many places

Shel
Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 =
 I've been confused by it  too. But in the US we are becoming a bilingual 
 nation, the other language is  Spanish as the most rapidly growing
segment of our 
 population is Latino. Many  phone menus, practically all I've used
recently, 
 especially bank menus, have the  option for either English or Spanish.
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Pentax and Foveon?

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Erickson
Rumors are surfacing that Foveon sensors may show up in non Sigma DSLRs in 
the next six months or so.  Foveon's design escapes resolution issues that 
are intrinsic to Bayer pattern color sensors.  I don't see why Pentax has to 
stick with Sony forever.  Wouldn't it be cool if Pentax tied up with Foveon 
for their next DSLR sensor? 

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Re: New Sony

2007-03-09 Thread Tom C
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: New Sony
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:53:17 +

It is the desire of most civilised societies to have the freedom to
express their views,  and there is no fault here. What there is, is a
difference of cultural exchange. In America, it is part and parcel of
the culture to express a view even if that view does not necessarily
move the discussion on in a positive way, whereas in other parts of the
world it is perceived to be inconsiderate to express a belief that
appears to denigrate.

This is the cost of a world-wide list, and unmoderated. The positive
aspects of such (in my opinion ;-) far outweigh the disadvantages, and
so we must try and deal with it.

We all like a bit of silliness now and again, and I am no exception. I
enjoy reading nonesense about how ugly a camera looks, and I certainly
enjoy Ken's posts.

I also enjoy reading of the extremely technical nature of digital
photography, and I equally enjoy reading Godfrey's posts.

So, here is a pretend post that probably would never happen here on this
list - look at the content, and think about it, and think how the reply
might seem offensive to someone from a culture slightly less 'up front
and in your face'

POST A:

Vibrating components is by far the best method of cleaning DSLR sensors,
as the vertical and horizontal movement of the sensor at a high
frequency means that small particles of dust and detritus are forced off
the sensor and onto the sticky surface below where they are collected.
Having to use Pec-pads and such is such a chore in comparison and I
would recommend anyone to buy a DSLR with this feature.

POST B:

What da heck do I care how it cleans? I want to know what it
looks like ...
Does it have a nice rounded prism cover? what the accessories look like?
what the grip feels like?
are what are important to me.


Just playing devil's advocate here.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Falling Water

2007-03-09 Thread Tom C
Thanks for your comments Bruce and Marnie.



Tom C.



From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO - Falling Water
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:46:32 -0800

Pretty nice.  I especially like the thin wall of water coming down.

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Thursday, March 8, 2007, 1:46:52 PM, you wrote:

TC Lots of nice weather this morning.  A seasonal waterfall appears close 
to
TC home in the late winter/early spring.  It's a 1 mile journey in the 
opposite
TC direction of work once I get to the state highway.


TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5695454


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Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!

2007-03-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Yeah, But at least we know the photographer is real !

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!


 Actually, the tree, the bird and the sky are all fake. They're nothing 
 but pixels!
 Paul
 On Mar 8, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
 Nah. Its a fake tree!

 Kenneth Waller

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 Subject: RE: Went back and reshot the damn bird!


 That's one of those little fake birds from the craft store. :-)

 Yes it's better.

 Tom C.



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 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:05:23 -0500

 Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when 
 the
 sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that!
 :-))
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Re: Simplified PS workflow

2007-03-09 Thread David J Brooks
On 3/9/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your call is important to use.  Please hold.

 Please continue holding.

 Your call is very important to use.  We'll be right with you.  Please
 continue holding.

 Please continue holding.

I'm transfering you to our thec department, click, click, disconnected.

Try again

Dave



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Re: Pentax and Foveon?

2007-03-09 Thread Thibouille
IMO Foveon has a problem: marketing number.
Only those who know that megapixels isn't the only thing will consider
such a sensor.
Most poeple will notice it is not 10Mpix and will reject it pretty quickly.

Sigma tries to be different than others using Foveon and it is a good
thing from Sigma I beleive but the big ones (and wannabe) won't get
into this (I hope they'd do this but I don't think so).

2007/3/9, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Rumors are surfacing that Foveon sensors may show up in non Sigma DSLRs in
 the next six months or so.  Foveon's design escapes resolution issues that
 are intrinsic to Bayer pattern color sensors.  I don't see why Pentax has to
 stick with Sony forever.  Wouldn't it be cool if Pentax tied up with Foveon
 for their next DSLR sensor?

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Re: Soggy postcards

2007-03-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/9/2007 9:15:13 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But me and my SO still wants  to go. It is on hold, because we are getting a
new dog soon. The SO wants  to go to Oxford. I think she has seen one Morse
episode to many  ;-)


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain  Norwegian)


One of my favorite crime dramas.

Tom  C.

=
I also found it a bit odd the way John Thaw passed away  about a year or two 
later. Like he was so closely bound with Morse he couldn't  survive his 
fictional death. (And, yes, I know he starred in some stuff  after).

But, yes, great series. And I'd like to see Oxford too. I have  also seen too 
much Morse.

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Re: PESO - Falling Water

2007-03-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Sorry Tom, but there's too much going on here for my liking. Isolate  
simplify.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Falling Water


 Lots of nice weather this morning.  A seasonal waterfall appears close to
 home in the late winter/early spring.  It's a 1 mile journey in the 
 opposite
 direction of work once I get to the state highway.


 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5695454


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RE: PESO: Construction

2007-03-09 Thread Tom C
Yeah it's kind of disorienting.  But is the sky real or Photoshop? ;-)



Tom C.



From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: PESO: Construction
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:47:53 -0500

I'm kind of liking this. But most interestingly, it shows off the
capabilities of the DA 12-24 and the K10D. From shadow detail to
highlights and overall sharpness, I was pleased with this capture. DA
12-24 @ 12mm, f9, 1/250th, ISO 160, TAv mode.
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Re: PESO: White Breasted Nuthatch

2007-03-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
It might be hibernating.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: White Breasted Nuthatch


 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5672710size=lg
 --
 Problem with Your Input
 We had a problem processing your entry:
 
   This photo doesn't exist. (The owner has probably deleted it.)
 
 Please back up using your browser, correct it, and resubmit your entry.
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