Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial 
 without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems 
 with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group of PDMLers would 
 experience any problems.

Call me naive, but I agree with you, Paul.

I can't imagine that the photo cops will be harassing folks with dslrs
taking pix of the Empire State Building.  It's obviously aimed at
film shoots which attract the attention of passersby and disrupt
traffic.

I'm also sure that newspapers and other well-funded media outlets will
be chomping at the bit to take a test case to court to test the
constitutionality of this new law.

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GESO: The Celery Farm

2007-06-29 Thread Ed Keeney
I'm a lurker and should make more comments along the way...

I put together a gallery of photo's that I'm debating on using to
enter into a contest for the nature center.

All comments and critiques are appreciated.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto/TheCeleryFarm

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote:
 On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial 
 without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems 
 with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group of PDMLers would 
 experience any problems.
 
 Call me naive, but I agree with you, Paul.
 
 I can't imagine that the photo cops will be harassing folks with dslrs
 taking pix of the Empire State Building.  It's obviously aimed at
 film shoots which attract the attention of passersby and disrupt
 traffic.
 
 I'm also sure that newspapers and other well-funded media outlets will
 be chomping at the bit to take a test case to court to test the
 constitutionality of this new law.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 

Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this 
proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting 
buildings legally.

-Adam


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Re: PESO: Another street picture

2007-06-29 Thread J
I like it, good photo..Joe

At 01:41 PM 6/29/07, you wrote:
On 6/28/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/walkinggirl.html
 
  Shot with the K10, and 77mm ltd.
  Cropped slightly from the full file.
 

GREAT freaking shot!

The timing was near-perfect.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this 
 proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting 
 buildings legally.

That law won't give renta cops any more power than they have now -
which isn't any more than a normal civilian has.

It's not a criminal law - it's a city ordinance, basically a traffic law.

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Re: Convert Raw to JPG

2007-06-29 Thread Thibouille
I will explain the example I faced myself. This doesn't happens
frequently but it happended exactly the day I was sowing my brand new
K10D to hte whole family ;)

We had a family dinner (yeah with kids and so on) and of course
parents wanna see the pics but... on the PC upstairs? No way... not
practical. On the TV? Ouch, awfull. So? Well, my brother had one of
those small Canon Selphy printer.

As often the auto WB of the K10D was a bit off. I changed the WB to
what it should have been, downgraded Mpix (why print 10 Mpix on such a
small print?) and sent it to the printer directly.

I was happy to see I could show my production and parents were
delighted to see their kids on my print. Quick  effective.

This is an example but I can really see someone making such a quick
proint to show the customer and idea of what will the finished work
look like.
It may not be a killer feature, but that one can really be VERY useful
at time. Definitely love that feature.

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Re: New Scanner

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I'm now the owner of an Epson V700. I'm just using it mainly to
 scan BW 6x7 negs. As a complete novice, I was just wondering if anyone
 could give me a few basic tips (other than don't slam your fingers in
 the cover). I'm using the SilverFast software that came with the scanner.
 TIA,

Cool.

I can't help, but it's still cool.

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Re: GESO: The Celery Farm

2007-06-29 Thread pnstenquist
I like the frog and Parnell's Path. The rest I find either ordinary or soft.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Ed Keeney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm a lurker and should make more comments along the way...
 
 I put together a gallery of photo's that I'm debating on using to
 enter into a contest for the nature center.
 
 All comments and critiques are appreciated.
 
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
On 6/29/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this 
 proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting 
 buildings legally.


They already try to do it illegally. Give them a law allowing it and
you can bet your sweet bippy that they will abuse it.


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Re: New Scanner Epson V700

2007-06-29 Thread Norm Baugher
It's waay cool Frankie. Just trying to figure out how to use the 
damn thing. If you think about it, I've now gone digital...
Norm

frank theriault wrote:
 On 6/29/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Well, I'm now the owner of an Epson V700. I'm just using it mainly to
 scan BW 6x7 negs. As a complete novice, I was just wondering if anyone
 could give me a few basic tips (other than don't slam your fingers in
 the cover). I'm using the SilverFast software that came with the scanner.
 TIA,
 

 Cool.

 I can't help, but it's still cool.

 cheers,
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Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Going through my Grandfather Mountain archives I found another shot I 
like:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm

Taken a couple of miles out on the Profile Trail just as the sun was 
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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
Great capture! If I had to have one nit about it - I would like more Grebe  
slightly less surroundings. Still a very good capture, well executed.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe


 I'll try to post the link to this image again as it appears to have
 been truncated making it unusable:

 http://i.pbase.com/
 o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg

 Perhaps the filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for
 the inconvenience.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Norm Baugher
Well, if that were the case, they'd be arresting hundreds of people 
every day outside my office. We did have a jumper a couple months ago, 
the press were there and all I heard the cops tell them was to check 
with the commanding officer before they could cross the tape...
Norm

frank theriault wrote:
 I can't imagine that the photo cops will be harassing folks with dslrs
 taking pix of the Empire State Building.  

   


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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread pnstenquist
I haven't been able to access this pic. I keep getting forbidden messages. The 
url below doesn't work for me, even when pasted together.
 -- Original message --
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Great capture! If I had to have one nit about it - I would like more Grebe  
 slightly less surroundings. Still a very good capture, well executed.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe
 
 
  I'll try to post the link to this image again as it appears to have
  been truncated making it unusable:
 
  http://i.pbase.com/
  o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg
 
  Perhaps the filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for
  the inconvenience.
 
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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread pnstenquist
Okay, got it. I agree with ken -- a bit tighter crop would help. But it's an 
excellent shot.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Great capture! If I had to have one nit about it - I would like more Grebe  
 slightly less surroundings. Still a very good capture, well executed.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe
 
 
  I'll try to post the link to this image again as it appears to have
  been truncated making it unusable:
 
  http://i.pbase.com/
  o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg
 
  Perhaps the filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for
  the inconvenience.
 
  JayT
 
 
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Re: Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
This has an unreal feel to it - like a painting or heavy photoshopping.
I'm mixed about whether I like it or not.

Kenneth Waller

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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Another oldie...


 Going through my Grandfather Mountain archives I found another shot I 
 like:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm
 
 Taken a couple of miles out on the Profile Trail just as the sun was 
 coming up (around 6:00 a.m.)


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Re: Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Going through my Grandfather Mountain archives I found another shot I
 like:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm

 Taken a couple of miles out on the Profile Trail just as the sun was
 coming up (around 6:00 a.m.)


Stunning!

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Re: New Scanner Epson V700

2007-06-29 Thread frank theriault
On 6/29/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip If you think about it, I've now gone digital...

No you haven't...

;-)

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Re: Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread pnstenquist
Even with the web image, the rich detail is apparent. I'm somewhat surprised at 
that. This one might be a wee bit oversaturated, but it's an excellent shot.
Paul
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Going through my Grandfather Mountain archives I found another shot I 
 like:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm
 
 Taken a couple of miles out on the Profile Trail just as the sun was 
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Re: The Celery Farm

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
I Took a very quick spin thru your gallery. One comment that would help I 
believe is that the field shots could use more separation (less depth of 
field) between the foreground subject  the back ground.

HTH
Kenneth Waller

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From: Ed Keeney [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: GESO: The Celery Farm


 I'm a lurker and should make more comments along the way...

 I put together a gallery of photo's that I'm debating on using to
 enter into a contest for the nature center.

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Re: antivirus discussion

2007-06-29 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote:

 On 28/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
I have a firewall in my base station that masks the internal network  
 
from external view without permission, John. Nothing gets to my  
 
system from the outside without my knowing it.
 
 
 Godders, can you recommend a good web site where a test can be done on
 the user's home security methods?
 
grc.com will test a machine's visibility.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: Adam Maas
 Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC
 
 
 
 
I blame the French.
 
 
On this point you may be correct. France is at the forefront of ridiculous 
restrictions on photographers, having essentially made Street Photography 
illegal.
 
 
 HAR!! I knew that if I blamed them for everything for long enough, at some 
 point something would stick.
 I suspect that they have had a very hard knee jerk reaction from the 
 incident where Princess Diana was hunted down.

The law was in place long before that.

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Re: PESO: Stranded in Newcastle

2007-06-29 Thread Brian Walters
Dave, John, Frank

Thanks for the comments - the ship is still stuck fast, by the way.  They're 
going to try again on Saturday night.

Someone actually put it up for sale on EBay - the auction got pulled when the 
bidding reached $16 million..


Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Those are pretty neat Brian. I particularly like the second one
 though.

Yeah, I like that one too but it needs to be bigger.



Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Well done shots. No Parking was a good catch. :)
 

Thanks. I would have liked it more if I had a slightly higher vantage point but 
the public exclusion zone put paid to that :-(



Cheers

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Re: New Scanner Epson V700

2007-06-29 Thread graywolf
Well, half way grin.

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frank theriault wrote:
 On 6/29/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip If you think about it, I've now gone digital...
 
 No you haven't...
 
 ;-)
 
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote:
 On 6/29/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this 
 proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting 
 buildings legally.
 
 That law won't give renta cops any more power than they have now -
 which isn't any more than a normal civilian has.
 
 It's not a criminal law - it's a city ordinance, basically a traffic law.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 

Yes, but if it gets passed, the rentacops can call the cops on you 
semi-legitimately.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread graywolf
Hey man, that is NYC, folks strip cars on the street and the cops walk right by 
them. NYC has lots of laws, only a few of them seem to get enforced. If fact, I 
am pretty sure that NYC already has a law requiring a permit for any 
photo/film/video operation that obstructs traffic, vehicle or pedestrian, in 
any way that is not enforced.

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Adam Maas wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
 On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and 
 editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes 
 causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group 
 of PDMLers would experience any problems.
 Call me naive, but I agree with you, Paul.

 I can't imagine that the photo cops will be harassing folks with dslrs
 taking pix of the Empire State Building.  It's obviously aimed at
 film shoots which attract the attention of passersby and disrupt
 traffic.

 I'm also sure that newspapers and other well-funded media outlets will
 be chomping at the bit to take a test case to court to test the
 constitutionality of this new law.

 cheers,
 frank


 
 Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use this 
 proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from shooting 
 buildings legally.
 
 -Adam
 
 

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Re: GESO: The Celery Farm

2007-06-29 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Ed

Quoting Ed Keeney [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm a lurker and should make more comments along the way...
 
 I put together a gallery of photo's that I'm debating on using to
 enter into a contest for the nature center.
 
 All comments and critiques are appreciated.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto/TheCeleryFarm
 


I particularly like Jeremiah 1 and I like the ideas in some of the others (eg 
CF3, CF11) but the flower heads don't seem quite sharp enough against the 
blurred background.


Cheers

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Re: PESO: Another street picture

2007-06-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
I like the timing, but the geometric pattern in the walk really
highlights/contrasts the curves of the woman's body.  Very nice.
Regards, Bob S.

On 6/29/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/28/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/walkinggirl.html
 
  Shot with the K10, and 77mm ltd.
  Cropped slightly from the full file.
 

 GREAT freaking shot!

 The timing was near-perfect.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC


 On 6/29/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Likely that will be the case most often. But I expect rentacops to use 
 this proposed law on a regular basis to try and prevent people from 
 shooting buildings legally.

 That law won't give renta cops any more power than they have now -
 which isn't any more than a normal civilian has.


Respectfully, I must disagree. At the moment, they feel free to harrass 
photographers from time to time without a law on their side.
Imagine the sense of empowerment they will feel if they suddenly believe 
they have a law on their side.
It matters not if it is a criminal law or a city ordinance.

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Re: Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote:

This has an unreal feel to it - like a painting or heavy photoshopping.

Interesting. It *does* have some photoshopping done, bit it's actually 
pretty light. Most of the effect really is from the backlighting and 
light fog.


 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm



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Re: New Scanner

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I drive the V700 with Vuescan. It just works.

G

On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

 Well, I'm now the owner of an Epson V700. I'm just using it mainly to
 scan BW 6x7 negs. As a complete novice, I was just wondering if  
 anyone
 could give me a few basic tips (other than don't slam your fingers in
 the cover). I'm using the SilverFast software that came with the  
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Re: Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/29/2007 1:32:23 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Going through my  Grandfather Mountain archives I found another shot I  
like:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm

Taken a couple of  miles out on the Profile Trail just as the sun was 
coming up (around 6:00  a.m.)

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Re: New Scanner

2007-06-29 Thread Norm Baugher
Can you extrapolate a little more on Vuescan?
Norm

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I drive the V700 with Vuescan. It just works.

 G

 On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

   
 Well, I'm now the owner of an Epson V700. I'm just using it mainly to
 scan BW 6x7 negs. As a complete novice, I was just wondering if  
 anyone
 could give me a few basic tips (other than don't slam your fingers in
 the cover). I'm using the SilverFast software that came with the  
 scanner.
 


   


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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Norm Baugher
What part of the city do you live in???
Norm

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And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written  
opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to  
return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case  
was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
Paul

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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread John Coyle
That's great news Paul, for Grace and you and your family.
Hopefully you'll have many more good years watching her grow up happy and safe.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Subject: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!


 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written  
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to  
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case  
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
 Paul
 
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RE: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Bill Sawyer
Congratulations, Paul - I heard you cheering way over here in Livonia!!

Um, what time's the party start??  Not for me, of course, Ken wants to 
know ;-)

Bill Sawyer
Livonia, MI

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:40 PM
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Subject: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written  
opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to  
return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case  
was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
Paul

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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks John. Today certainly is right up there among the best days of  
my life.
Paul
On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:58 PM, John Coyle wrote:

 That's great news Paul, for Grace and you and your family.
 Hopefully you'll have many more good years watching her grow up  
 happy and safe.


 John Coyle
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 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
The party's in full swing. I opened a bottle of Macallan 12-year-old  
that one of the kids bought me for father's day. Grace and I pulled  
some weeds and watered the gardens, but she's in bed now. Looking  
forward to taking her to the park tomorrow.
Paul
On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote:

 Congratulations, Paul - I heard you cheering way over here in  
 Livonia!!

 Um, what time's the party start??  Not for me, of course, Ken wants to
 know ;-)

 Bill Sawyer
 Livonia, MI

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 Behalf Of Paul
 Stenquist
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 Subject: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
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OT: Extreme Macro

2007-06-29 Thread David Savage
I came across this on another forum:

http://www.pbase.com/fotoopa/image/64246713

From the same guy who made the laser triggered camera  flash system
that was posted here a year or so ago.

Cheers,

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RE: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Bill Sawyer
Sounds good. If the park is the Zoo, maybe I'll see you there. There's some
new warthogs and wild dogs, and one of the Zebra's gave birth this week -
the foal, I think, might be something for Grace to enjoy - I really can't
think of anything much more life-affirming.

Bill Sawyer
Livonia, MI


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Stenquist
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

The party's in full swing. I opened a bottle of Macallan 12-year-old  
that one of the kids bought me for father's day. Grace and I pulled  
some weeds and watered the gardens, but she's in bed now. Looking  
forward to taking her to the park tomorrow.
Paul
On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote:

 Congratulations, Paul - I heard you cheering way over here in  
 Livonia!!

 Um, what time's the party start??  Not for me, of course, Ken wants to
 know ;-)

 Bill Sawyer
 Livonia, MI

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
 Behalf Of Paul
 Stenquist
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:40 PM
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 Subject: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Rick Womer
Marvelous, Paul!  And may she indeed live happily ever
after!

Rick

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued
 a written  
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the
 sodden Scot to  
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention
 abduction case  
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Jim King
Paul Stenquist wrote on Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:51:13 -0700

 The party's in full swing. I opened a bottle of Macallan 12-year-old
 that one of the kids bought me for father's day. Grace and I pulled
 some weeds and watered the gardens, but she's in bed now. Looking
 forward to taking her to the park tomorrow.

My congratulations as well, Paul.  It's wonderful that Grace will be  
able to stay with a family that loves and cares for her as yours  
does.  I guess that sometimes the courts *do* get it right  It's just  
that sometimes they take so long

I'll hoist a glass of Highland Park this evening in Grace's honor!

Regards, Jim

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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written  
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to  
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case  
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
 Paul
 
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Great news Paul!
Hope it is the start of moving life back to normal.
Regards,  Bob S.


On 6/29/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/29/2007 5:50:03 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's over. We won. The  Federal District Court issued a written  
opinion this afternoon denying  the petition of the sodden Scot to  
return Grace to the UK. The Scot's  Hague convention abduction case  
was found to be totally without merit.  My princess is  safe.
Paul

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6140354


=
Adorable  photo.

CONGRATULATIONS!!! I know you must have had a great deal of  anxiety over 
this and lots of sleepless hours. So it must be a major relief to  have it 
over. 

Grace is lucky to have you in her corner. That alone makes  her a princess.

Marnie aka Doe  I am happy for all of  you.

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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/29/2007 7:28:37 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'll try to post  the link to this image again as it appears to have  
been truncated  making it unusable:

http://i.pbase.com/  
o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg

Perhaps the  filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for  
the  inconvenience.

JayT

=
Very nice shot, I like the water.  In this instance, I think dead center 
works. The leaf reflections make sort of  star effect, rays radiating outward, 
from the bird.

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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Jack Davis
WONDERFUL!

Happy for you all.

Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written  
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to  
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case  
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FS Friday: grip for *istD

2007-06-29 Thread Amita Guha
Here's the auction for my grip, in near-mint condition:
http://tinyurl.com/2udq5u

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
 What part of the city do you live in???

Graywolf lives in a very southern part of the city.

Kenneth Waller

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 What part of the city do you live in???
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Re: OT: Extreme Macro

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Cassino
Whooo-ha! I want one of those... :-)

- MCC

David Savage wrote:
 I came across this on another forum:
 
 http://www.pbase.com/fotoopa/image/64246713
 
From the same guy who made the laser triggered camera  flash system
 that was posted here a year or so ago.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

May the same be for her mother  grand parents.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!


 In a message dated 6/29/2007 5:50:03 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It's over. We won. The  Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying  the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's  Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit.  My princess is  safe.
 Paul

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6140354


 =
 Adorable  photo.

 CONGRATULATIONS!!! I know you must have had a great deal of  anxiety over
 this and lots of sleepless hours. So it must be a major relief to  have it 
 over.

 Grace is lucky to have you in her corner. That alone makes  her a 
 princess.

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Re:Gigabyte Panoramas

2007-06-29 Thread Bill Lawlor
This camera platform produces awesome images with virtually any digital 
camera. Check out the sample panoramas at the web site. Zoom in for amazing 
details. My understanding is that the platform moves the camera to create a 
mosaic that is combines into the final image. I want one! 
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~globalconn/gigapan.html

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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
Absolutely fantastic! I'll raise a glass of Knob Creek to honor the outcome.

Best news today Paul.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!


 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
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Re: Another oldie...

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Waller
Was a split neutral density filter used?

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: Another oldie...


 Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
This has an unreal feel to it - like a painting or heavy photoshopping.
 
 Interesting. It *does* have some photoshopping done, bit it's actually 
 pretty light. Most of the effect really is from the backlighting and 
 light fog.
 
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm
 
 
 
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Re: Link to some good IR processing

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Cassino
Thanks for the link, David.

I've always just thrown my digital IR into BW and then toned it (as I 
would any BW shot) using Duotones or Tritones. But I tried some of the 
processes used on the site you reference and they worked nicely.

A few shots from this afternoon are here (ignore the stuff after the 3 
IR shots.) -

http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream07.htm

I always wanted to get some color in my IR shots - and this seems to do 
the trick.

I took a WB reading off the 'grass' (it's pretty dry and more like 
un-cut hay) *with* the IR filter on the camera. the coloration is more 
or less straight form the camera after that, with some PS tweaking.

It's interesting - after taking a few shots with that WB and then 
processing them in PS,  it was easy to figure out how just do it from 
any WB in Photoshop. Now I can go back and re-work my old shots.

I guess it's alway easier to reverse-engineer than to engineer...

But I like the effect!

Thanks again for the link -

MCC

David J Brooks wrote:
 http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=64
 
 Found this doing some surfing this morning. I'm still looking for a
 good WB and work flow for my digital IR and this guy seems to have a
 bunch.
 
 He uses the K10D and Lonng exposures, which i found, but the istD
 still gives shorter exposures, so its my ir camera.
 He also uses Custom WB off of green grass, with and with out the filter.
 
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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Paul Sorenson
Great news!!  Congratulations on a big win!!

-p



Paul Stenquist wrote:
 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written  
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to  
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case  
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
When they arrest me for doing my flavor of street photography, I'll  
let you know how the case goes in court.

G


On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:21 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public  
 Photography

 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html? 
 ei=5090en=71135caff6fefe6aex=1340769600partner=rssuserlandemc=rss 
 pagewanted=print

 New rules being considered by the Mayor's Office of Film, Theater and
 Broadcasting would require any group of two or more people who want to
 use a camera in a single public location for more than a half hour to
 get a city permit and insurance.

 The same requirements would apply to any group of five or more people
 who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10
 minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.

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Re: And Princess Grace Lived Happily Ever After!

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Congratulations, Paul. I'm glad that ordeal has a happy ending.

Godfrey

On Jun 29, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 It's over. We won. The Federal District Court issued a written
 opinion this afternoon denying the petition of the sodden Scot to
 return Grace to the UK. The Scot's Hague convention abduction case
 was found to be totally without merit. My princess is safe.
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Re: New Scanner

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Vuescan is a scanning application, in the same vein as SilverFast. I  
prefer using it as it lends more control of scanning specifics, is  
less expensive, and is constantly being updated/tuned by its author.  
And it's also 'generic' ... it drives a whole bunch of different  
scanners rather than having to have the version targeting a specific  
scanner.

I've been using Vuescan for all my scanning since 1998 or so,  
whenever it first came out. I drive the Nikon LS-40, Minolta Scan  
Dual II, Epson 2450 and V700 with it. It does a great job. Takes a  
bit to learn but works well. The author, Ed Hamrick, is very  
knowledgeable and has some of the best scanning algorithms around.

See http://www.hamrick.com/vsm.html for more details. You can  
download and experiment with an evaluation copy to see whether you  
like it more.

Godfrey


On Jun 29, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:

 Can you extrapolate a little more on Vuescan?
 Norm

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
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Re: value of K50/1.2 ?

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Been too busy to deal with email very much the past few days.

Thanks for the info on the lens valuation. It's too pricey for my  
interest or need, so I've recommended the owner sell it through Ebay  
if he decides to sell it. I'll let you know if he does.

best,
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Re: New K10D

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 22, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote:

 ...  I 've always hated working with Adobe products and especially  
 PS.  ...

Why?

Just curious. Adobe has nearly always been my favorite software  
company to work with, and especially with regards Photoshop. They  
seem to include in each successive release exactly the things that I  
found I might want, and they invariably give me better support than  
almost anyone else when I have a question or issue. I'm wondering why  
you have such a negative opinion of them.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread David Mann
On Jun 30, 2007, at 3:20 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 Actually, that isn't as scary as it sounds...
 It's aimed at film and TV crews mainly - not a single person with a
 camera hand held,
 and, Im sure not news folk...

I never trust the intent of a law.  That's just the sales pitch.   
What matters is the actual wording because that's how it'll be applied.

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Re: New K10D

2007-06-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Glad you like it. The K10D is a very fine camera offered at an  
excellent price. Its value proposition is similar or equal to that of  
the Nikon D200 at 2/3 the price, and it has some features that are  
unique and very useful.

It also does a damn fine job of 'getting out of the way' in use,  
which I appreciate a heck of a lot.

 Question:  Is that Bright mode anything
 special or is just some combination of Sharpness, Contrast, and
 Saturation that I could do with the three sliding scales.  For  
 example,
 if I set bright mode and throw the sharpness to full (not saying  
 this is
 a good idea) is it sharper than full power sharpness alone?  I can't
 find an answer  anywhere in the manual, and I haven't tried it
 experimentally yet.

The Bright color tone resets the base parameters upon which other  
image processing settings for JPEG rendering are dependent. So while  
you might be able to get close to what Bright color tone does by  
setting Natural then tweaking the SCS controls, the setting changes  
the range and nature of adjustability of the other SCS controls.

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Re: FS Friday: grip for *istD

2007-06-29 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 11:59:30PM -0300, Amita Guha wrote:
 Here's the auction for my grip, in near-mint condition:
 http://tinyurl.com/2udq5u
 
 Amita

You might want to change the listing slightly - the grip
doesn't fit the DS, but your description says that it is
a grip for use with the D or the DS.

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Re: antivirus discussion

2007-06-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have a firewall in my base station that masks the internal network  
from external view without permission, John. Nothing gets to my  
system from the outside without my knowing it.

Godders, can you recommend a good web site where a test can be done on
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Re: PESO: Another street picture

2007-06-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

A little blown out around her  legs

That a technical term Marnie?  ;-)

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Re: PESO: Another street picture

2007-06-29 Thread Cotty
On 28/6/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/walkinggirl.html

Shot with the K10, and 77mm ltd.
Cropped slightly from the full file.

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Re: peso plumeau

2007-06-29 Thread Toine
Thanks. From the viewpoint of a cat it's normal because they look down
on us. I'm a humble servant for these aristocats.
Toine

On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 That's one very cute cat  there.
 I like both poses!

 Kenneth Waller

 
 What he  said. But I like the first a tad better, because of the unusual
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Re: Peso Peff's Mill

2007-06-29 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Marnie.

I took about 20 shots, mostly from one angle, various focal lengths,
as there was a lot of junk at the sides. Different exposures with and
with out the filter.

Seems the SFW did not save as i had adjusted the shot. It was
converted in LR 1.1. Wonder if that had anything to do with it, but i
doubt it.

Oh well.

Dave

On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What he said. And if it was me, I'd go back and  take more too. Good subject.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 ==
 On  6/27/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On  6/27/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6131669
  
Took a bit of a drive yesterday. Super hot out this week, so i'm not
overdoing any house work. Just enough to geta sweat on, and earn a
beer.:-)
  
   Old mill about 1/2 drive from here, in  an area i would like to move
   to. Toronto just got a lot closer the  past 12 months.
  
   K10D, 16-45 F4 Circ Polorizer and  converted to BW in LR Ver 1.1 some
   curves in  PSCS
 
  Nice shot, Dave.  As others have said, it could use a  bit of punch,
  but otherwise I like it quite a bit.
 
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Re: Another computer related problem

2007-06-29 Thread David J Brooks
I was told by Bill, and probably Mark, not 100% sure, that when i set
up the spyder to disable adobe gamma. I went into msconfig and
unchecked the boxes for that.

Seems to work as my colour prints fom the epson 2400 are just fine.

Dave

On 6/27/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, I'm not.  I never really got that far.  Honestly, I'm woefully lacking
 on understanding what are probably the basics of digital photography.  It's
 almost certainly why I can't make my prints worth the cost of the ink.

 CW
 noob ;)


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  This might be a stupid question, but are you
  calibrating your monitor with some sort of hardware
  device?
 
  Rick
 
  --- cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is it possible to have more than one set of Gamma
  instructions loading on
  system start-up?
  I've always had Adobe gamma and I think it's still
  loading but a couple
  months ago I downloaded some program that was
  probably linked here or on the
  Pentaxforums.com.  I ran the program and restarted
  the computer but now I
  think the monitor is too dark and the colors are
  probably not right.
  Can anybody give me a pointer to how I can sort-out
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Re: Wedding lens?

2007-06-29 Thread Gasha
Thanks,

my usual lens are MF 50/1.4 and 135/3.5 ... not very good for reportages 
and weddings :)

Another option will be F28/2.8, no zoom but at least fast prime. And 
AutoFocus.

G

Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Yes, the DA 16-45 is very good. I shot a wedding recently and used  
 just the DA 16-45 and the DA 50-200 for all but the studio shots.  
 They served me well. At the reception I used only the DA 16-45. For  
 the ceremony, I needed the DA 50-200 for some shots. I had both  
 lenses mounted on two camera. No problem.
 Paul
 On Jun 27, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Gasha wrote:

   
 Hi all,

 i just realised, that i need zoom and AF lens for wedding photography.

 So far i heard good words about DA 16-45. Is it ok?


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9999 + 1

2007-06-29 Thread Roman
What happens when camera reaches  image counts, what next?

;)

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Re: 9999 + 1

2007-06-29 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 29/06/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What happens when camera reaches  image counts, what next?

0

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Re: 9999 + 1

2007-06-29 Thread David Savage
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Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Digital Image Studio
City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090en=71135caff6fefe6aex=1340769600partner=rssuserlandemc=rsspagewanted=print

New rules being considered by the Mayor's Office of Film, Theater and
Broadcasting would require any group of two or more people who want to
use a camera in a single public location for more than a half hour to
get a city permit and insurance.

The same requirements would apply to any group of five or more people
who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10
minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.

Watch out NYC PDMLers! ;-(

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Re: Wedding lens?

2007-06-29 Thread Bong Manayon
Hi!  I usually have a short zoom (28-70mm range) and a telephoto prime
with a big aperture to shoot with available light (usually my
135/2.5).  The short zoom is for group and close quarter shots; the
telephoto are for the ceremony since I usually avoid going on the
altar or stage area of the church.

My wedding photos are on http://www.bong.uni.cc/gallery click on 'weddings'

Bong

On 6/29/07, Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks,

 my usual lens are MF 50/1.4 and 135/3.5 ... not very good for reportages
 and weddings :)

 Another option will be F28/2.8, no zoom but at least fast prime. And
 AutoFocus.

 G

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
  Yes, the DA 16-45 is very good. I shot a wedding recently and used
  just the DA 16-45 and the DA 50-200 for all but the studio shots.
  They served me well. At the reception I used only the DA 16-45. For
  the ceremony, I needed the DA 50-200 for some shots. I had both
  lenses mounted on two camera. No problem.
  Paul
  On Jun 27, 2007, at 8:38 PM, Gasha wrote:
 
 
  Hi all,
 
  i just realised, that i need zoom and AF lens for wedding photography.
 
  So far i heard good words about DA 16-45. Is it ok?
 
 
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread pnstenquist
This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and editorial 
without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes causes problems 
with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group of PDMLers would 
experience any problems.
Paul
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From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090en=71135caff6fe
 fe6aex=1340769600partner=rssuserlandemc=rsspagewanted=print
 
 New rules being considered by the Mayor's Office of Film, Theater and
 Broadcasting would require any group of two or more people who want to
 use a camera in a single public location for more than a half hour to
 get a city permit and insurance.
 
 The same requirements would apply to any group of five or more people
 who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10
 minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.
 
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From:
Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC


 This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and 
 editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes 
 causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group 
 of PDMLers would experience any problems.

That might depend on if some security goon (as an example) decided that he 
didn't want to be photographed, or didn't want his building to be 
photographed. If this is enacted, he would have a real, bonafide law at his 
disposal to harass photographers with.
Any time you allow a law to be put in place that has the potential to 
restrict someone's freedom, someone else will abuse said law to the 
detriment of someone else's freedom, if for no other reason than because he 
can.
If the law was intended to restrict the actions of professional 
photographers/videographers who cause traffic problems, the legislation 
would be specifically targetting them in it's wording.

This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating 
society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside.
Soon, we won't have any small freedoms left.

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Re: Another computer related problem

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Another computer related problem


I was told by Bill, and probably Mark, not 100% sure, that when i set
 up the spyder to disable adobe gamma. I went into msconfig and
 unchecked the boxes for that.

 Seems to work as my colour prints fom the epson 2400 are just fine.


Adobe says to just remove the shortcut from the startup directory, but 
whatever works.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Digital Image Studio
Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC



 So the sky is or isn't falling? ;-)

In some parts of North America, it is definitely getting closer to the 
ground...

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and 
editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes
causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering 
group of PDMLers would experience any problems.

Perhaps not. But it certainly *could* be used that way by any cop in a 
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 29/06/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating
 society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside.
 Soon, we won't have any small freedoms left.

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Re: antivirus discussion

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote:
 On 28/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I have a firewall in my base station that masks the internal network  
from external view without permission, John. Nothing gets to my  
 system from the outside without my knowing it.
 
 Godders, can you recommend a good web site where a test can be done on
 the user's home security methods?
 

Most such test sites are inherently broken as they test from the same machine 
that you opened the connection to, which will allow that machine back through 
many stateful firewalls.

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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb



 On 29/06/07, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll try to post the link to this image again as it appears to have
 been truncated making it unusable:

 http://i.pbase.com/
 o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg

 Perhaps the filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for
 the inconvenience.
 
 TinyURL is your friend :-)
 http://tinyurl.com/2twb2u
 
 It's a lovely capture!

That is a beautiful image.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Did anyone mention that Mayor Bloomberg is, (if you'll pardon the 
expression), an a**h***.

Digital Image Studio wrote:
 City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography

 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090en=71135caff6fefe6aex=1340769600partner=rssuserlandemc=rsspagewanted=print

 New rules being considered by the Mayor's Office of Film, Theater and
 Broadcasting would require any group of two or more people who want to
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 get a city permit and insurance.

 The same requirements would apply to any group of five or more people
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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David Savage 
Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC



 
 The sky isn't falling, the earth is rising.
 
 I blame global warming.
 

I blame the French.
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Re: 9999 + 1

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 03:56:47PM +0300, Roman wrote..
 What happens when camera reaches  image counts, what next?

666 ?

Nah, the count simply rolls over if the max counter value is exceeded.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread David Savage
On 6/29/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 29/06/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating
  society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside.
  Soon, we won't have any small freedoms left.

 So the sky is or isn't falling? ;-)

The sky isn't falling, the earth is rising.

I blame global warming.

Cheers,

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:50:43AM -0600, William Robb wrote..
 
 - Original Message - 
 From:
 Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC
 
 
  This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and 
  editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes 
  causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group 
  of PDMLers would experience any problems.
 
 That might depend on if some security goon (as an example) decided that he 
 didn't want to be photographed, or didn't want his building to be 
 photographed. If this is enacted, he would have a real, bonafide law at his 
 disposal to harass photographers with.
 Any time you allow a law to be put in place that has the potential to 
 restrict someone's freedom, someone else will abuse said law to the 
 detriment of someone else's freedom, if for no other reason than because he 
 can.
 If the law was intended to restrict the actions of professional 
 photographers/videographers who cause traffic problems, the legislation 
 would be specifically targetting them in it's wording.
 
 This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating 
 society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside.
 Soon, we won't have any small freedoms left.

You can still seek asylum in Europe.  I've been shooting, tripod and all,
lots of public buildings in Berlin, even inside the main trainstation,
federal buildings etc.  Nobody will harass you there.  Police looks at 
you and walks off smiling.

It appears US legislators are loosing sight of what they are trying 
to achieve.  At least to my untrained (untrained in the legal sense) eye.

A sad thing.

Wilko

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Re: antivirus discussion

2007-06-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:09, Adam Maas wrote:

 Cotty wrote:
 On 28/6/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I have a firewall in my base station that masks the internal network
 from external view without permission, John. Nothing gets to my
 system from the outside without my knowing it.

 Godders, can you recommend a good web site where a test can be  
 done on
 the user's home security methods?


 Most such test sites are inherently broken as they test from the  
 same machine that you opened the connection to, which will allow  
 that machine back through many stateful firewalls.


I've found that the Shields Up! utility on www.grc.com does a fair  
job of evaluating what's open and what's not.

There are a lot of other handy free utilities there as well.

  -Charles

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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread Jay Taylor
I'll try to post the link to this image again as it appears to have  
been truncated making it unusable:

http://i.pbase.com/ 
o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg

Perhaps the filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for  
the inconvenience.

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Re: PEOW: Pie-Billed Grebe

2007-06-29 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 29/06/07, Jay Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll try to post the link to this image again as it appears to have
 been truncated making it unusable:

 http://i.pbase.com/
 o6/87/63987/1/81261177.gmwcxIHL.PieBilledGrebe1062407.jpg

 Perhaps the filename was too long to fit on a single line. Sorry for
 the inconvenience.

TinyURL is your friend :-)
http://tinyurl.com/2twb2u

It's a lovely capture!

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Wilko Bulte
Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC



 You can still seek asylum in Europe.  I've been shooting, tripod and all,
 lots of public buildings in Berlin, even inside the main trainstation,
 federal buildings etc.  Nobody will harass you there.  Police looks at
 you and walks off smiling.

You guys have your own set of problems with people trying to protect 
copyrights on what should be public places, and restricting photographers 
that way.
So far in Canada, we haven't fallen overmuch into the control hysteria that 
we are seeing elsewhere, although we do have a whole bunch of retards at the 
helm here too.


 It appears US legislators are loosing sight of what they are trying
 to achieve.  At least to my untrained (untrained in the legal sense) eye.

The problem with legislators is that they have to legislate things in order 
to justify themselves. The big stuff has been taken care of for decades, so 
now all that is left is parsing minutae.
I'm sure Peter will call me an idiot for this, but it seems to me that this 
is the way of it.

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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Savage 
 Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC
 
 
 
 The sky isn't falling, the earth is rising.

 I blame global warming.

 
 I blame the French.
 WW
 

On this point you may be correct. France is at the forefront of ridiculous 
restrictions on photographers, having essentially made Street Photography 
illegal.

-Adam


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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread ann sanfedele
Digital Image Studio wrote:

City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090en=71135caff6fefe6aex=1340769600partner=rssuserlandemc=rsspagewanted=print

New rules being considered by the Mayor's Office of Film, Theater and
Broadcasting would require any group of two or more people who want to
use a camera in a single public location for more than a half hour to
get a city permit and insurance.

The same requirements would apply to any group of five or more people
who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10
minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.

Watch out NYC PDMLers! ;-(
  

Actually, that isn't as scary as it sounds...
It's aimed at film and TV crews mainly - not a single person with a 
camera hand held,
and, Im sure not news folk...

And being considered is a key word.   I rarely buy the paper but I'll 
get the Times today to read further.

ann the optimist


  




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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling
Just don't take photographs of any person without their permission in 
France...

Wilko Bulte wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 07:50:43AM -0600, William Robb wrote..
   
 - Original Message - 
 From:
 Subject: Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC


 
 This suggested legislation is in response to pros shooting ads and 
 editorial without permits. It happens a lot in New York and sometimes 
 causes problems with traffic and/or crowds. I doubt that a wandering group 
 of PDMLers would experience any problems.
   
 That might depend on if some security goon (as an example) decided that he 
 didn't want to be photographed, or didn't want his building to be 
 photographed. If this is enacted, he would have a real, bonafide law at his 
 disposal to harass photographers with.
 Any time you allow a law to be put in place that has the potential to 
 restrict someone's freedom, someone else will abuse said law to the 
 detriment of someone else's freedom, if for no other reason than because he 
 can.
 If the law was intended to restrict the actions of professional 
 photographers/videographers who cause traffic problems, the legislation 
 would be specifically targetting them in it's wording.

 This is another example of the creeping horseshit that is permeating 
 society, and another small freedom falling unnoticed by the wayside.
 Soon, we won't have any small freedoms left.
 

 You can still seek asylum in Europe.  I've been shooting, tripod and all,
 lots of public buildings in Berlin, even inside the main trainstation,
 federal buildings etc.  Nobody will harass you there.  Police looks at 
 you and walks off smiling.

 It appears US legislators are loosing sight of what they are trying 
 to achieve.  At least to my untrained (untrained in the legal sense) eye.

 A sad thing.

 Wilko

   


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Re: Permits may soon be required to shoot in NYC

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Maas
Not just that, but he's the worst sort of Authoritarian Nanny-Stater. A 
complete 'if it isn't specifically permitted it must be denied type'.

I hope to hell he doesn't run for President. I'd rather have Nader or Trent 
Lott in power down there (and I despise both of those individuals).

-Adam

P. J. Alling wrote:
 Did anyone mention that Mayor Bloomberg is, (if you'll pardon the 
 expression), an a**h***.
 
 Digital Image Studio wrote:
 City May Seek Permit and Insurance for Many Kinds of Public Photography

 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?ei=5090en=71135caff6fefe6aex=1340769600partner=rssuserlandemc=rsspagewanted=print

 New rules being considered by the Mayor's Office of Film, Theater and
 Broadcasting would require any group of two or more people who want to
 use a camera in a single public location for more than a half hour to
 get a city permit and insurance.

 The same requirements would apply to any group of five or more people
 who plan to use a tripod in a public location for more than 10
 minutes, including the time it takes to set up the equipment.

 Watch out NYC PDMLers! ;-(

   
 
 



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Re: PESO: Another street picture

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mat Maessen
Subject: Re: PESO: Another street picture



 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/walkinggirl.html

 Shot with the K10, and 77mm ltd.
 Cropped slightly from the full file.

 Very nice. I love the symmetry of the shot. Did you have to do much
 cropping to get it even?

About a 30% crop. Not so much to get it even as to make up for the fact that 
the right lens would have been about 105mm, not 77mm.
Thanks for looking and commenting.

William Robb


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Re: PESO: Another street picture

2007-06-29 Thread William Robb
Subject: Re: PESO: Another street picture

Thanks Dave, Marnie, Mark, Paul, Jack and Cotty for your kind words.
Marnie, I redid the RAW conversion, it looks a little better now.

William Robb





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