Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[Anthony Farr]

By the end of round 2 most of the big names will have been pitted
against each other leaving very few of the greats in the contest.
It's not a bad idea, but the "organiser" doesn't know much about
keeping the star attractions away from each other until at least the
semi-finals.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)



On 5 May 2010 07:53, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Brackets are tough:
>
> http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html
>
> go for it
>

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Re: chicago updates

[Boris Liberman]

Da, I am bringing mine ;-).

Boris

On 5/5/2010 6:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

5) This is probably a big *duh*, but everyone attending the exhibit
should bring their cameras :-).

Cheers, Christine



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Re: gesoish, an atypical British sports coupe

[Larry Colen]

On May 4, 2010, at 10:47 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:


On 05/05/2010, Larry Colen  wrote:
On my way to lunch I saw an interesting car parked at a shop and  
stopped to
grab some photos. These cars are fairly rare, and apart from this  
one being
at a shop, they are quite atypical of British cars. This post is  
more along
the lines of sharing snapshots of a cool piece of machinery than  
showing off

pictures, but go ahead and comment if you'd like:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623871260415/


Oh dear, that roofline sucks!


I never said the car was pretty. Though I suppose that quirky styling  
is typical british.


It may not be obvious in the photos but that stripe in the roofline is  
tinted glass.  Not entirely unlike the Buick Sportwagon (Olds  
Vistacruiser) that my folks bought in the mid/late 60's.



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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

[Larry Colen]

On May 4, 2010, at 6:57 PM, William Robb wrote:


This is eerie.
http://is.gd/bUqH3
And safe to read.


Interesting. He *seems* to know his stuff. I also peeked at a couple  
of his other pieces.  Is he the person that Kennyboy thinks he is?


It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja),  
but it seems applicable to Pentax as well.


A lot of it seems to, though with Pentax the stabilization is at the  
end, rather than in the middle of the optical path, so it wouldn't  
affect bokeh and the like.


I've not actually done any comprehensive tests. I also always figured  
that at high shutterspeeds there'd be little enough range of movement  
that SR being on or not would be moot.


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Re: gesoish, an atypical British sports coupe

[Rob Studdert]

On 05/05/2010, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On my way to lunch I saw an interesting car parked at a shop and stopped to
> grab some photos. These cars are fairly rare, and apart from this one being
> at a shop, they are quite atypical of British cars. This post is more along
> the lines of sharing snapshots of a cool piece of machinery than showing off
> pictures, but go ahead and comment if you'd like:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623871260415/

Oh dear, that roofline sucks!

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Re: Long lens updates [Scanned]

[Anthony Farr]

On 2 May 2010 06:53, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
>
> Heck, you can get a 250-1200 on eBay for only $280. Why wait!   :-)
>

On the occasions that I notice that 250-1200mm lens, I think WTF?  And
then I wonder things like "who the hell makes this lens, how awful can
it be and what's it really like?".

But my mind goes back to all those generic stovepipe  400mm and 500mm
teles that IIRC were made by Tamron and sold under countless in-house
brand names at countless camera stores around the world, usually for
$49.99.  In their day they were sneered at as cheap and nasty
imitations of lenses for the use of cheap and nasty imitators of
photographers.  But somewhere in the years between, while I was
looking elsewhere, these lenses became cult classics, fondly regarded
for their good performance at modest prices.  Again, WTF?

SO, has anybody ever read a review of these 250-1200 cheapies?  Or
used one and is prepared to admit to it?

regards, Anthony

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gesoish, an atypical British sports coupe

[Larry Colen]

On my way to lunch I saw an interesting car parked at a shop and  
stopped to grab some photos. These cars are fairly rare, and apart  
from this one being at a shop, they are quite atypical of British  
cars. This post is more along the lines of sharing snapshots of a cool  
piece of machinery than showing off pictures, but go ahead and comment  
if you'd like:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623871260415/

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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

[Rob Studdert]

On 05/05/2010, William Robb  wrote:
> This is eerie.
> http://is.gd/bUqH3
> And safe to read.
> It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja), but it
> seems applicable to Pentax as well.

The response of the movement sensors used in the Pentax bodies is no
where near as fast as 1kHz (though I suspect he's interpreting this
data incorrectly), basically they can detect sway and a certain degree
of jolt. Like Thom suggests there is a definite shutter speed limit to
which SR is useful, pointed out fairly eloquently by Falk Lumo on the
Pentax web forums. It's useful but it's no panacea and really I don't
think I'd miss it at all moving to a camera like the D700.

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Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! (OT btw)

[Stan Halpin]

I can get into AKO [Army Knowledge Online] with Safari, no problem. PW or CAC 
login, no problem. At home or on the Army net. Get all of my email via Mail 
linked to AKO also. I cannot however get into the defense travel system or the 
civilian personnel site. Those were developed by different contractors.

stan

On May 4, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

> On 5 May 2010 05:23, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> 
>> F^(&*n' Micro$oft!!
>> 
> 
> You should have logged in from a Mac using Safari, then it all would
> have processed perfectly, while angels caressed your brow.
> 
> };-)>
> 
> But seriously, your problem can't be compared to logging on to Gmail
> or Flickr.  You're logging onto a system which gives you a much deeper
> degreee of access and control over the data stored inside than the
> users of those and other cybertainment networks.  My wife sometimes
> accesses her office desktop from home via a "remote desktop".  And
> guess what?  Right, Internet Explorer or nothing.  It's their system,
> so it's their choice, same as your situatiuon with the DoD.  They do
> it to protect themselves, lest some nefarious soul finds a security
> hole that could exploited by using a third party browser.  And yeah, I
> see the irony in their use of the holeiest browser to ensure security,
> but it caters to the widest user base and means they only need attend
> to the security issues of one browser, not all of them.
> 
> Just a pity they didn't tell you to go to one of their own computers
> in the first place, that was inconsiderate. SOP for a government
> agency, really, you should have expected no less.
> 
> regards, Anthony
> 
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>to those who lack in mind and sight"
>   (Anon)
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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[Rob Studdert]

On 05/05/2010, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> In a related pet peeve of mine, I intensely dislike drivers of greyish 
> vehicles who drive in rain or dim light conditions without headlights turned 
> on. Yes, they can see the road well enough without their lights, but others 
> can't see them.

This is a pet peeve of mine too, however my car is large, white and I
turn either the parking, headlight or driving lights on as the
conditions require and people still don't seem to see me (often the
ones in microscopic cars which is a worry for them).

When I rode a bike I had a black jacket but I wore a bright single
colour helmet and rode with my lights on (and I still got hit).

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Re: chicago updates

[Larry Colen]

On May 4, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

1)  All our work was delivered on time on Monday, 5/3 at 10:00ish   
a.mish.


Let me reiterate Tom's thanks for your work in undertaking this project.



4) Celtic Fest is advertised as running during our exhibit weekend,  
which could be fun on Sat for a photowalk after the museum, provided  
it doesn't rain.  Lots of music and various festival activity.   
Should make for some nice energy downtown.  Celtic Fest has usually  
run in Sept for the past several years.  I didn't even believe my  
friend when she told me it was running this coming weekend.  I still  
only half believe it, but here's the link: http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/things_see_do/event_landing/special_events/mose/celtic_fest_chicago.html


Looks like fun. I guess I'll have to bring my utilikilt and naughty  
celtic knotwork t-shirt.


They do the best legs in kilts competition wrong though, the judges  
are supposed to be blindfolded:

http://red4est.red4est.com/lrc/pix/macdude/beach19.jpg

For something approximating an explanation of the above:
http://www.macdude.org/

Or google "Clan MacDude"

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Tamron Adaptall

[Larry Colen]

As it turns out, the guy on craigslist never replied to any of my  
emails about the tammy 300/2.8.  However, I got a note on facebook  
from a friend who would like to sell his. Or at the very least is  
willing to loan it to me to see if I want it. He never uses it since  
he got a 200/1.8. (85/1.2  200/1.8 it seems that Canon are the people  
to go to for glass that is long and fast)


His has a Canon FD mount.  I have an Adaptall II PK mount, but if I  
interpret some comments correctly there is a PKA mount that'll  
(sometimes) transmit info like aperture to the body.  Does anyone have  
one of these kicking around that they want to sell?





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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[Stan Halpin]

Normally John I would agree. But these incidents (no one was actually hit by 
the way, just close calls) occurred because soldiers weren't using crossing 
areas, and the road section was poorly lit. As you know the Army recognizes the 
need to be visible for traffic safety and requires reflective clothing for 
runners, cyclists, and motorcyclists. And then we have guys in camo wandering 
across the road, ignoring oncoming traffic whose drivers can't possibly see 
them. Obviously the problem really wasn't the clothing but rather the lack of 
situation awareness on the part of the pedestrians. In a related pet peeve of 
mine, I intensely dislike drivers of greyish vehicles who drive in rain or dim 
light conditions without headlights turned on. Yes, they can see the road well 
enough without their lights, but others can't see them. 

stan

On May 4, 2010, at 4:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Miserere
>> On 30 April 2010 23:03, Stan Halpin  wrote:
>>> > Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have > developed an 
>>> > aversion to camo. What triggered it was the > number of complaints about 
>>> > pedestrians being hit by cars on > base. Hell - they are all wearing 
>>> > camo! And then they > wander across the street expecting people to see 
>>> > them?
>>> >
>>> > stan
>> That's some damn good camo! I'm sure some smart salesman at the
>> clothes supplier can work that into an ad campaign: "Camouflage so
>> good, not even your own people will see you! [There are currently 3
>> people wearing our camouflage in this ad.]"
> 
> I dunno, but it seems to me if you're on an Army base you ought to expect 
> people crossing streets to be wearing camo.
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Re: Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

[Chris Mitchell]

Bob Sullivan wrote:
> No it doesn't Bob!
> There's no shopping mall and no sports centre.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 

And (before anyone else says it) no roundabouts and no concrete cows...

Chris
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> >> >From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride
> >> round the city.
> >> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> > Looks a bit like Milton Keynes.
> >
> > B
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Re: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Tom

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Tom C.  wrote:
> Dan,
>
> I haven't paid attention to your blog of diner photos to date...
> however on the basis of this image alone, I'll take a look.
>
> Well done!
>
> Tom C.
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
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>> http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner
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Re: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

[Tom C.]

Dan,

I haven't paid attention to your blog of diner photos to date...
however on the basis of this image alone, I'll take a look.

Well done!

Tom C.


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> http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner
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Re: chicago updates

[Tom C.]

Christine,

A huge thank you for the extremely professional way in which you've
handled this undertaking, and for your sacrifice of time in this, and
our behalf.  The communication you've provided leaves me feeling
confident this is an endeavour I will be happy that I engaged in. Same
applies to Mark.

Again, thank you.

Tom C.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> 1)  All our work was delivered on time on Monday, 5/3 at 10:00ish  a.mish.
>
> 2) Gallery has been repainted for our install, and our work is being
> installed.
>
> 3) Framer called me with a big hearty thank you and said it was a fun
> project to work on.  Can't say enough about Fastframe--very nice
> people--very accommodating.
>
> 4) Celtic Fest is advertised as running during our exhibit weekend, which
> could be fun on Sat for a photowalk after the museum, provided it doesn't
> rain.  Lots of music and various festival activity.  Should make for some
> nice energy downtown.  Celtic Fest has usually run in Sept for the past
> several years.  I didn't even believe my friend when she told me it was
> running this coming weekend.  I still only half believe it, but here's the
> link:
> http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/things_see_do/event_landing/special_events/mose/celtic_fest_chicago.html
>
> 5) This is probably a big *duh*, but everyone attending the exhibit should
> bring their cameras :-).
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
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PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner

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Re: GESO - Desperately Seeking Inspiration

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 




It's been a while since I flirted with sailors.  So you think that would
help?



It's always good to try new experiences that get you out of your comfort 
zone, Brian.  :-)  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: OT Mac question

[John Francis]

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote:
> On May 4, 2010, at 14:24 , David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: OT  
>>> Mac
>>> question
>>>
>>>

 I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac.

>>>
>>> It seems to give you a lot of grief though.
>>
>> Sometimes, but not as much  as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor
>> things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain.
>
>
> They don't make a drug strong enough to stop the pain of the PC.
>
> They do make some rather nice drugs that enhance the use of a Mac.

And they dissolve so well in the Kool-Aid ...


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chicago updates

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

1)  All our work was delivered on time on Monday, 5/3 at 10:00ish  a.mish.

2) Gallery has been repainted for our install, and our work is being 
installed.


3) Framer called me with a big hearty thank you and said it was a fun 
project to work on.  Can't say enough about Fastframe--very nice 
people--very accommodating.


4) Celtic Fest is advertised as running during our exhibit weekend, which 
could be fun on Sat for a photowalk after the museum, provided it doesn't 
rain.  Lots of music and various festival activity.  Should make for some 
nice energy downtown.  Celtic Fest has usually run in Sept for the past 
several years.  I didn't even believe my friend when she told me it was 
running this coming weekend.  I still only half believe it, but here's the 
link: 
http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/things_see_do/event_landing/special_events/mose/celtic_fest_chicago.html


5) This is probably a big *duh*, but everyone attending the exhibit should 
bring their cameras :-).


Cheers, Christine 




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Re: PESO - Swan

[Jack Davis]

Beautiful angle and head position. Sort of looks like a bright snow shot 
wherein the meter over corrected by trying to convert the scene to 18% gray.
Needs to be carefully lightened..but not by too much. Remember, a variety of 
monitors with variying brightness settings are watching ;-))

Jack


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> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Swan
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 6:38 PM
> Okay, this bird stuff is all new to
> me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
> entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp
> in some
> places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the
> water
> ripples and stuff):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html
> 
> Does it work?
> 
> Pretty bird, anyway...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[Bran Everseeking]

On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:35:18 -0400
Mark Roberts  wrote:

> What the fuck. Frank Theriault isn't even listed. What bullshit...

thats what I was going to say

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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

[Christine Aguila]

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Chris Mitchell wrote:

From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the 
city.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/


Isn't the Bean fun to photograph? And to watch other people
photographing?

Here's my personal best Bean shot:
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d703445.htm
Taken with the 10-17 fisheye, which bends the buildings of the skyline
dramatically... while the counter-distortion of the Bean makes the
reflections straight.




Ok, I'll play the bean flash  :-)
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/bean/content/IMGP5294_large.html

Note the year & lens--this was a bit before the LBA started  :-)  Cheers, 
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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

[P. J. Alling]

A useful read.  Of course it does confirm my prejudices.

On 5/4/2010 9:57 PM, William Robb wrote:

This is eerie.
http://is.gd/bUqH3
And safe to read.
It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja), but 
it seems applicable to Pentax as well.


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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

John Sessoms wrote:


>From: Miserere

>> On 30 April 2010 23:03, Stan Halpin  wrote:
>>> > Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have 
>>> > developed an aversion to camo. What triggered it was the 
>>> > number of complaints about pedestrians being hit by cars on 
>>> > base. Hell - they are all wearing camo! And then they 
>>> > wander across the street expecting people to see them?
>> 
>> That's some damn good camo! I'm sure some smart salesman at the

>> clothes supplier can work that into an ad campaign: "Camouflage so
>> good, not even your own people will see you! [There are currently 3
>> people wearing our camouflage in this ad.]"

>
>I dunno, but it seems to me if you're on an Army base you ought to 
>expect people crossing streets to be wearing camo.


You expect it on the battlefield, too. That doesn't make it stand out
any better!

Seriously, the colors of "camo" have been developed over years to be
as difficult as possible for human to pick up in a wide variety of
conditions. Works pretty well: Statistics of motorcycle accidents, for
example, show riders wearing camo/khaki clothing to be over
represented in statistics.


It's not caused by the clothing.

It's more a correlation with an age demographic. The riders most likely 
to be wearing camouflage uniforms are also the age demographic most 
likely to ride unsafely. You can find a similar correlation between 
camouflage uniforms and automobile accidents ... for the same reason.


The Army requires motorcycle riders to wear reflective high-visibility 
vests over their clothing when riding, in addition to helmets and other 
PPE ... even on posts in states that do not have helmet laws.


While the Army can't ALWAYS catch every rider when the rider is NOT in 
uniform and is away from the post, they do enforce it quite stringently 
for riders off post, in uniform and ON POST it don't matter whether 
you're in uniform or not. You operate a motorcycle on post, you wear 
Army Standard PPE including the vest.


In the military operating a P.O.V. is a privilege, not a right, and 
commanders are not at all unwilling to revoke that privilege if the 
soldier fails to adhere to Army standards. Because the commander can be 
held responsible if anything happens to a soldier and investigation 
reveals the commander was not adequately enforcing the safety regulations.


Did you know any soldier going on leave who is planning to travel by 
motorcycle is required to file a risk management plan with a designated 
safety supervisor? And that the soldier cannot get his/her leave 
approved until the risk management plan is accepted?


Now I don't know how the National Guard does it in other states, but in 
North Carolina, if you show up for drill Armory riding a motorcycle, you 
better have an U.S. Army certificate showing you passed the ARMY test 
and you better be wearing Army Standard PPE.


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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[drd1135]

Maybe he's listed under Canadian street photographers. 
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Doug Brewer wrote:

>Brackets are tough:
>
>http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html
>
>go for it

What the fuck. Frank Theriault isn't even listed. What bullshit...



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Re: PESO - Swan

[David Parsons]

The picture is more of a black & grey, than B&W.  I'm not sure if it
looks underexposed, or if the levels need to be adjusted.

There is also an odd dark halo along the back of the head and neck.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:38 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
> entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp in some
> places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the water
> ripples and stuff):
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html
>
> Does it work?
>
> Pretty bird, anyway...
>
> ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Swan

[paul stenquist]

Nice. Sharpness looks okay on a web sized image, but the rendering is a bit 
muddy. The whites don't sparkle.
Paul
On May 4, 2010, at 9:38 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
> entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp in some
> places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the water
> ripples and stuff):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html
> 
> Does it work?
> 
> Pretty bird, anyway...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Something of interest from his Thomishness

[William Robb]

This is eerie.
http://is.gd/bUqH3
And safe to read.
It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja), but it 
seems applicable to Pentax as well.


William Robb



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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[William Robb]

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What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing 
as I
thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks ink the 
way

I drink red wine.


I'll trade you a case of red wine for your printer.


Two cases of red wine, an R2400 printer and two Spotmatics.


Cool, a bidding war!!!


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Re: PESO - Swan

[drd1135]

Damn. It's Knarf and I'm wearing white again. ;-)
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Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:38:25 
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Subject: PESO - Swan

Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp in some
places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the water
ripples and stuff):

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html

Does it work?

Pretty bird, anyway...

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[William Robb]

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William Robb wrote:

What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing as 
I
thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks ink the 
way

I drink red wine.


I'll trade you a case of red wine for your printer.



What kind are you offering?


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Re: PESO - Swan

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/4/2010 9:38 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp in some
places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the water
ripples and stuff):

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html

Does it work?

Pretty bird, anyway...

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.

cheers,
frank

   
It's a nice portrait of a swan.  But on my monitor it looks gray, not 
white.  A minor adjustment of the white point would give it more life.


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Re: PESO - Swan

[Graydon]

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 09:38:25PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit:
> Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
> entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp in some
> places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the water
> ripples and stuff):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html
> 
> Does it work?

Not in black and white.  I *know* the bill should be screaming orange,
and the strange grey causes speedbumps in my brain.

There's something wrong -- this is more of a commiseration than a
criticism, because swans are horrors from a managing-light-levels point
of view -- with the choice of brightness curves because the base of the
neck goes completely flat.  Between the noticeable feather detail on the
head, the drop of water off the bill, and the feather detail of the back
(scapular feathers, but I'm trying to suppress this impulse of
precision) it looks like something has gone wrong with the photograph to
produce the flatness, rather like the differential-chemical-decay effect
one sees in old prints.  (if you're trying for looks-like-a-clean-scan-
of-an-old-photo-of-a-swan, it's a resounding success, but I don't think
you are.)

The head detail is very nicely done.  If you have more dots there, it
would be nice to see that area larger and in colour.

-- Graydon, who might point out there's a mute swan nest at the
southwest corner of Grenadier Pond within 10 m of the sidewalk.  (8 of
the intervening meters are water, so it's not particularly crazy of the
swans.  Not that many people in Toronto actively want their leg broken.)

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PESO - Swan

[frank theriault]

Okay, this bird stuff is all new to me, so be gentle.  I know it's not
entirely sharp, but it's (by my standards at least) sharp in some
places I'd like it to be (around the head and some of the water
ripples and stuff):

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/swan.html

Does it work?

Pretty bird, anyway...

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments encouraged.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Tamron Adaptall 300/2.8?

[Joseph McAllister]

On May 3, 2010, at 10:45 , Larry Colen wrote:

I found a Tamron 300/2.8 on CL today for $650.  That seems like it  
might be a pretty good price, depending on the quality of the lens.




I have the Tamron 300/28 in KAF2 mount, with matching tele-converters  
and I love it. I'll be getting a new Flashpoint Gimbal Head 1 with  
Quick Release that Supports 15.4 lbs. at which point I'm hoping some  
of the problems I've had with bird and dog photography may be resolved  
allowing me to use this lens more often.


Does anyone have any experience with this $240 head compared to the  
$500 and up competition?



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Re: Peso Back yard deer

[Michael Beacom]

Does he eat tulips?

Cheers
Mike


On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Even though there is construction in town, we live close enough to
farms and bush areas.

Deer have popped into our back yard before, but never before the
garden had been planted.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10960333

He stood still long enough to get this.

K10D, Sigma 300 f4 APO

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

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On May 4, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> William Robb wrote:
> 
>> What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing as I 
>> thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks ink the way 
>> I drink red wine.
> 
> I'll trade you a case of red wine for your printer.

Two cases of red wine, an R2400 printer and two Spotmatics.

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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[Joseph McAllister]

On May 4, 2010, at 07:36 , CheekyGeek wrote:


I believe that I will be buying a second digital body within the next
year. My first is the K200D.

Frankly, if I could have one of the new cameras be the K200D body with
a Sony EXMOR or EXMOR-R sensor with high ISO noise performance & Live
View I would be ecstatic. I think that  an articulating LCD would be
icing on the cake. I love the K-x performance/IQ but I dislike the
smaller body (ergonomics) and the K-x's LACK of some pro/semi-pro
features like remote shutter plug, add-on battery pack, and
weather-proofing seals.



Custom camera bodies must be hand built by the end user for them to be  
appreciated for what they are.


:-)

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Re: OT Mac question

[Joseph McAllister]

On May 4, 2010, at 14:24 , David J Brooks wrote:


On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb  wrote:


- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: OT  
Mac

question




I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac.



It seems to give you a lot of grief though.


Sometimes, but not as much  as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor
things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain.



They don't make a drug strong enough to stop the pain of the PC.

They do make some rather nice drugs that enhance the use of a Mac.

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[Mark Roberts]

William Robb wrote:

>What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing as I 
>thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks ink the way 
>I drink red wine.

I'll trade you a case of red wine for your printer.


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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[Mark Roberts]

Rob Studdert wrote:

>On 05/05/2010, David Parsons  wrote:
>> Well, I was referencing the posters in the DPReview thread, not at anyone 
>> here.
>>
>> It just seems that some people can't separate what they want from how
>> they think the company should be run and get all indignant about
>> Pentax not doing what they think is best according to them.
>
>I think that we have the right to comment, often the users have a
>better idea of what companies should be doing compared to what they
>are doing. For instance the very obvious fact that here and on other
>forums Pentax shooters are either supplementing or entirely dumping
>their Pentax kits for 36x24mm sensor bodies whilst Pentax is gearing
>to provide a very niche 645D body and some lenses is difficult to
>envision as a well conceived decision on so many levels.

Pentax does monitor this list from time to time and several
suggestions posted here over the years have found their way onto
production cameras. We can't be sure how many were as a result of what
was posted here, but it's quite plausible that it has happened.

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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[Mark Roberts]

David Parsons wrote:

>That's not really surprising if you understand how camo works.  It's
>not really designed to hide you, it's designed to break up your
>pattern while you are moving so it's harder to determine your shape.
>You see a moving form, but not a distinct outline.  It's similar to
>how the stripes on a zebra work with tall grass when they are running
>as a herd.  The stripes and grass combine to make it very difficult
>for lions to tell where one zebra ends and another one starts.

Yep. Returning to the theme of motorcycles, helmets that are one solid
color are safer (in the sense of making you less likely to be *in* an
accident, as opposed to providing better protection) than
multi-colored helmets because they make your head more recognizable as
a head, rather than a collection of shapes.


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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> >From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride 
>> round the city.
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/
>
>Looks a bit like Milton Keynes.

That was uncalled for!


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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[Mark Roberts]

Doug Brewer wrote:

>Brackets are tough:
>
>http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html
>
>go for it

What the fuck. Frank Theriault isn't even listed. What bullshit...



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Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! (OT btw)

[Joseph McAllister]

On May 4, 2010, at 15:13 , Cotty wrote:

Hey John, whatever you say about us Macfanboys, we ain't never gonna  
be

as fanatical as you laddy


Probably be worse for us Cotty. This is a Go'mint server, programmed  
under a least cost contract. Might not let us in at all unless we are  
running IE-8.


Lets see. I've got 6389 messages in my trash in Mail. Open trash.  
Select all. Delete. Takes a long time, like 7.3 seconds.


Damn!


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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen"

Subject: Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?



On 5/4/2010 4:53 PM, William Robb wrote:



What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing
as I thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks
ink the way I drink red wine.


With 7up?



This was years ago...
I was given a gallon of wine by a friend of a friend who is a member of the 
local Italian community.
Every year, this group imported a carload of grapes from Italy and made wine 
from it.
The wine I got was from a vintage that was notable only for how awful it 
was.
But, 1 part 7-up to 2 parts red wine made it drinkable after a fashion, and 
I'm just enough of an alchy to do it.


But normally I just drink my wine a bottle at a time.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[steve harley]

On 2010-05-04 16:10 , Adam Maas wrote:

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM, steve harley  wrote:

On 2010-05-02 09:56 , Adam Maas wrote:


an easy way to
launch seldom-used apps along with access to configuration and the
file browser.


that sounds like QuickSilver on the Mac (there are similar tools for Win&
Linux)


Not really, Quicksilver is really just a bit of UI that mostly
functions as keybindings,


QS is keybindings to a subject-verb-object language that can serve as 
shorthand for many different things one can also do other ways; like 
other shorthands, it's definitely loathable, but quite a time-saver once 
learned; i'm not mouse-phobic, btw; i resisted QS-type tools for years 
before i invested some time and saw what i was missing


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Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! (OT btw)

[Anthony Farr]

On 5 May 2010 05:23, John Sessoms  wrote:
>
> F^(&*n' Micro$oft!!
>

You should have logged in from a Mac using Safari, then it all would
have processed perfectly, while angels caressed your brow.

 };-)>

But seriously, your problem can't be compared to logging on to Gmail
or Flickr.  You're logging onto a system which gives you a much deeper
degreee of access and control over the data stored inside than the
users of those and other cybertainment networks.  My wife sometimes
accesses her office desktop from home via a "remote desktop".  And
guess what?  Right, Internet Explorer or nothing.  It's their system,
so it's their choice, same as your situatiuon with the DoD.  They do
it to protect themselves, lest some nefarious soul finds a security
hole that could exploited by using a third party browser.  And yeah, I
see the irony in their use of the holeiest browser to ensure security,
but it caters to the widest user base and means they only need attend
to the security issues of one browser, not all of them.

Just a pity they didn't tell you to go to one of their own computers
in the first place, that was inconsiderate. SOP for a government
agency, really, you should have expected no less.

regards, Anthony

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/4/2010 7:53 PM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin"
Subject: Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?



On 2010-05-04 14:40, William Robb wrote:


I expect that if I added everything up, I'd be paying 4-5X to print a
16x20 at home than what the most expensive printing service local to me
would charge.


I don't at all doubt that's it's cheaper overall for me to use a 
printing service for a print.  The question in my mind is, will I end 
up doing more "turns" for each print?  With my home setup, I've got 
as close to a closed-loop color system as I'm likely get without 
spending really big bucks.  I edit, balance, print, done.  One 
"turn".  I never have to print it twice, unless the paper feed messes 
up or something like that.  As long as I export to and preview with 
the service's color profile, can I expect to be able to keep doing 
prints in one "turn" with a service?


What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing 
as I thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks 
ink the way I drink red wine.


William Robb


But is it enjoying the buzz?

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[Larry Colen]

On 5/4/2010 4:53 PM, William Robb wrote:



What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing
as I thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks
ink the way I drink red wine.


With 7up?


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/4/2010 6:24 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 4/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.
 

Speaking of which, that frigging volcano cloud's coming this way again :-(
   


Maybe the weather service will actually send up a plane to sample the 
dust this time.  It seems that there wasn't enough last time to actually 
cause any damage, but due to technical problems the plane never left the 
hanger, and the MET relied entirely on computer models that were 
apparently wrong.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268794/Remember-ash-cloud-It-didnt-exist-says-new-evidence.html#ixzz0mF9IjOBS

Still it is from the "Daily Mail"


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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Franklin"

Subject: Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?



On 2010-05-04 14:40, William Robb wrote:


I expect that if I added everything up, I'd be paying 4-5X to print a
16x20 at home than what the most expensive printing service local to me
would charge.


I don't at all doubt that's it's cheaper overall for me to use a printing 
service for a print.  The question in my mind is, will I end up doing more 
"turns" for each print?  With my home setup, I've got as close to a 
closed-loop color system as I'm likely get without spending really big 
bucks.  I edit, balance, print, done.  One "turn".  I never have to print 
it twice, unless the paper feed messes up or something like that.  As long 
as I export to and preview with the service's color profile, can I expect 
to be able to keep doing prints in one "turn" with a service?


What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing as I 
thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks ink the way 
I drink red wine.


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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

[Bob Sullivan]

No it doesn't Bob!
There's no shopping mall and no sports centre.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> >From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride
>> round the city.
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/
>>
>> Chris
>
> Looks a bit like Milton Keynes.
>
> B
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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/4/2010 4:28 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 03:59:30PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
   

From: "Brian Walters"
 

On Tue, 04 May 2010 06:29 -0700, "Jack Davis"
wrote:
   

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=35222396
   

J
 


Ah, geeze Jack.  We were just recovering from the K7 Replacement thread.

Looks like my inbox might be overflowing when I log on in the morning.
  :-)>

And so to bed
   

Doesn't seem to me like there's anything new or controversial that we
didn't already know.
 

Oh, I don't know.  This is the first time I've seen anyone from Pentax
mention a camera beyond the K-7 in the lineup (other than the 645D).

It looks as though we might see the expected mid-life kicker for the K-7
later on this year.  Of course there is all the usual speculation about
what this will be, and the whole range of improbable suggestions (such
as using the lower-resolution K-x sensor).  But that's nothing compared
to the predictions as to just what a higher-spec camera body would be.
There's the all-too-predictable dichotomy between those who expect (or
at least hope) to see a 'full frame' sensor and those who are sure that
Pentax aren't large enough to have three separate lens systems.

Only time will tell.


   
The thing is it wouldn't be three seperate lens systems, only two.  
Sure, the DA lenses won't serve a 24x36mm camera but the DFA, (assuming 
Pentax keeps that designation), will serve 24x36 and 16x24mm formats.  
So it's really 2 and 1/4 lens lines.  As the DA lenses reach the end of 
their lives all those except the specialty WA lenses would be replaced 
with DFA equivalents.


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RE: Egypt final uploads

[Bob W]

I think you've done a good job, considering the restrictions. Nice stuff.

Bob

> 
> Thanks.  I think I'll have to return again and take a lot 
> more time and get things right (good luck with that  :) ).  
> Now that I've been there, I know where I'd like to see at 
> different times.  Being part of a tour group doesn't lead to 
> the prime shooting opportunities.  But, you do what you can 
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> 
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> > On 3 May 2010 20:50, David Parsons  wrote:
> >> I trailed off here for a couple days so I didn't flood the 
> group with 
> >> my updates, but I've got all my Egypt pictures uploaded.  Everyone 
> >> should go at least once in their life.
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/
> >>
> >> And per Miserere's challenge, here are my top 10 from all of my 
> >> pictures from the trip:
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623986937202/
> >
> > Very nice, Dave! A lot of non-touristy pics in your Top 10, which I 
> > liked. And having the guy in the turban following the 
> sphinx portrait 
> > was a good move  :-)
> >
> > I very much liked the "Karnak Temple" shot looking up through the 
> > columns, and "Shoes inside the mosque".
> >
> > I'd love to visit Egypt!
> >
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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[Rob Studdert]

On 05/05/2010, David Parsons  wrote:
> Well, I was referencing the posters in the DPReview thread, not at anyone 
> here.
>
> It just seems that some people can't separate what they want from how
> they think the company should be run and get all indignant about
> Pentax not doing what they think is best according to them.

I think that we have the right to comment, often the users have a
better idea of what companies should be doing compared to what they
are doing. For instance the very obvious fact that here and on other
forums Pentax shooters are either supplementing or entirely dumping
their Pentax kits for 36x24mm sensor bodies whilst Pentax is gearing
to provide a very niche 645D body and some lenses is difficult to
envision as a well conceived decision on so many levels.

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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[David Parsons]

That's not really surprising if you understand how camo works.  It's
not really designed to hide you, it's designed to break up your
pattern while you are moving so it's harder to determine your shape.
You see a moving form, but not a distinct outline.  It's similar to
how the stripes on a zebra work with tall grass when they are running
as a herd.  The stripes and grass combine to make it very difficult
for lions to tell where one zebra ends and another one starts.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> John Sessoms wrote:
>
>>From: Miserere
>>> On 30 April 2010 23:03, Stan Halpin  wrote:
 > Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have
 > developed an aversion to camo. What triggered it was the
 > number of complaints about pedestrians being hit by cars on
 > base. Hell - they are all wearing camo! And then they
 > wander across the street expecting people to see them?
>>>
>>> That's some damn good camo! I'm sure some smart salesman at the
>>> clothes supplier can work that into an ad campaign: "Camouflage so
>>> good, not even your own people will see you! [There are currently 3
>>> people wearing our camouflage in this ad.]"
>>
>>I dunno, but it seems to me if you're on an Army base you ought to
>>expect people crossing streets to be wearing camo.
>
> You expect it on the battlefield, too. That doesn't make it stand out
> any better!
>
> Seriously, the colors of "camo" have been developed over years to be
> as difficult as possible for human to pick up in a wide variety of
> conditions. Works pretty well: Statistics of motorcycle accidents, for
> example, show riders wearing camo/khaki clothing to be over
> represented in statistics.
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Re: Egypt final uploads

[David Parsons]

Thanks.  I think I'll have to return again and take a lot more time
and get things right (good luck with that  :) ).  Now that I've been
there, I know where I'd like to see at different times.  Being part of
a tour group doesn't lead to the prime shooting opportunities.  But,
you do what you can with what you are given.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> On 3 May 2010 20:50, David Parsons  wrote:
>> I trailed off here for a couple days so I didn't flood the group with
>> my updates, but I've got all my Egypt pictures uploaded.  Everyone
>> should go at least once in their life.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/
>>
>> And per Miserere's challenge, here are my top 10 from all of my
>> pictures from the trip:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623986937202/
>
> Very nice, Dave! A lot of non-touristy pics in your Top 10, which I
> liked. And having the guy in the turban following the sphinx portrait
> was a good move  :-)
>
> I very much liked the "Karnak Temple" shot looking up through the
> columns, and "Shoes inside the mosque".
>
> I'd love to visit Egypt!
>
>
>  --M.
>
>
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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[David Parsons]

Well, I was referencing the posters in the DPReview thread, not at anyone here.

It just seems that some people can't separate what they want from how
they think the company should be run and get all indignant about
Pentax not doing what they think is best according to them.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:04 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: David Parsons
>>
>> I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do
>> start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is
>> to do. They seem to know what they are talking about, it shouldn't be
>> too difficult for them.
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=35222396


>
> I'm not really into what Pentax "needs" to do. I figure that's Pentax's
>  problem to solve. They can do whatever they want. Whatever they think they
> "need" to do is fine with me.
>
> There are some things I would like to have available from Pentax; cameras
> that work with my lenses & lenses that work with my cameras.
>
> And if Pentax decides they "need" to make the things I want available, I
> will buy them ... assuming I can scrape up the money.
>
> Or if Pentax doesn't, and I decide I can't live without them, I'll buy from
> someone who does make them available.
>
> In the meantime, I'm here to "discuss" Pentax - past, present AND future.
> Even if it is "pure speculation".
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RE: GESO - First Chicago shots

[Bob W]

> >From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride 
> round the city.
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/
> 
> Chris

Looks a bit like Milton Keynes.

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Here's someone selling toys to get some Pentax glass

[Larry Colen]

An old italian bicycle:
Probably not worth shipping anyplace but at least a few folks  
might appreciate it:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1724356207.html

Minolta/Sony mount 70-210:
Here's one for Mark...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pho/1724367067.html

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/4/2010 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 3:17 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 4/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots of
dancers to the people in the photos.


...but sadly not to this list. I actually have a FB account but of the
three links you gave, only one would let me in without logging on, and
as I would have to reach 24 inches up onto a shelf to retrieve my
password from a feint-ruled notebook, I passed.


The target audience for most of the photos was, I'm afraid, not this 
list.


In theory, these three links should be available to anyone:

Mine-Pentax:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643&id=653299672&l=7dd07b367e

Scott-Nikon: (corrected link)
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122&id=746308024&l=800a4bd0ca

David-Canon and Panny P&S:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsgeisel/sets/72157623990213540/

With the relatively bright light, I'd say that the K-x and the D70 
came out fairly close with the Rebel XSi lagging a bit. Part of that 
may have to do with Scott and I shooting at blues events a lot more 
frequently and David primarily shooting at Victorian dances, which 
tend to be much more brightly lit.


Yet somehow I'd expect electrics to be brighter than gas lamps.



I don't think that Scott actually posted any that weren't taken in the 
brightly lit section while several of mine (if you can see the tags 
for Derek and Ammy) were. Dave shot quite a few of dancers in the 
darker areas, but exposed for the more brightly lit sections.


I can see that it could be fun to have a dance photography competition 
with different styles of dance in different lighting situations.







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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[Doug Brewer]

Cotty wrote:

On 4/5/10, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Brackets are tough:

http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html


HCB gets 1 vote so far and 'Burk Uzzle' gets 16?? That's all arse-about-
tit isn't it??


Uzzle is up against Robert Frank. I think you're looking at their seedings.

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

[Bob W]

> > >He's an important part of a very exclusive pdml sub-committee:
> > >
> > 
> > How did I know that would make another outing.
> 
> I think you get the lifetime award for bad puns with that one.
> 

Probably deserves an award for most-posted photo on the pdml



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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

[Bob W]

> 
> Let's see... Oslo -> London by train...
> 
> Route will go through:
> Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, 
> France, and UK.
> 
> No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying 
> the national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.
> 

Deutsche Bahn did it in one:

Station/StopDateTimePlatformProducts 
London St. Pancras International Mo, 10.05.10dep 11:04
EST 9126 EUROSTAR
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar  Mo, 10.05.10arr 14:05
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar  Mo, 10.05.10dep 14:05  transfer
18 min.
Bruxelles-Midi   Mo, 10.05.10arr 14:23
Bruxelles-Midi   Mo, 10.05.10dep 14:28  THA 9433
Thalys
Köln Hbf Mo, 10.05.10arr 16:18
Köln Hbf Mo, 10.05.10dep 17:48   2  ICE 955
Intercity-Express
Berlin Hbf   Mo, 10.05.10arr 22:21   11 D - G
Berlin Hbf   Mo, 10.05.10   walk 8 min.
Berlin Hbf (tief)Mo, 10.05.10 
Berlin Hbf (tief)Mo, 10.05.10dep 23:01   4  EN 210
EuroNight
Lund Central Tu, 11.05.10arr 08:11
Lund Central Tu, 11.05.10dep 09:22  R 1026   Oeresundzug
Göteborg Central Tu, 11.05.10arr 12:17
Göteborg Central Tu, 11.05.10dep 12:45  R 394
Regionalzug
Oslo S   Tu, 11.05.10arr 16:45



> Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, 
> Sweden. It costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket 
> to London, takes 3 hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even 
> traveled _one quarter_ of the way yet.
> 
> I've done my share of interrailing. The fun is lost on me, I'm afraid.
> 
> Jostein


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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

[Bob W]

> >  If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.
> > 
> >  Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can 
> actually get 
> >  somewhere on 'em.
>  >>>
>  >>> Let's see... Oslo ->   London by train...
>  >>>
>  >>> Route will go through:
>  >>> Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, 
> Belgium, France, and UK.
>  >>>
>  >>> No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying 
>  >>> the national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.
>  >>>
>  >>> Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to 
> Gothenburg, Sweden. 
>  >>> It costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket 
> to London, 
>  >>> takes 3 hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one 
>  >>> quarter_ of the way yet.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> And, without looking at a map, I'll guess that the distance is 
> >>> >> somewhere between that of San Francisco to LA, or 
> maybe as far as Seattle.
> >> >
> >> > London to Oslo is about 1100 miles as the crow (or cormorant) 
> >> > flies. A lot of water in between: Makes putting down 
> train tracks 
> >> > difficult  :) Time to start digging a tunnel...
> >> >
> >> >
> > Or about LA to Seattle.
> > I was referring to the Oslo to Gothenburg leg of the trip.
> 
> Or you might be able to find a website to help with planning 
> your itinerary.
> 
> http://www.seat61.com/Norway.htm
> 
> Mainly devoted to going the other direction, but it does 
> include Oslo -> London. I guess they figure you might want to 
> travel the other direction to get back to London if nothing else.
> 
> I'd fly TO Europe or to England, but once there going to all 
> those other different places isn't really so much a hardship 
> for me as it is an opportunity.

It's quite a difficult journey to plan. A few years ago I tried to organise
the trip from London to St. Petersburg and back by train for a non-flyer in
her 80s. It would have been far to difficult for her, and she ended up going
on a cruise there instead.

Deutsche Bahn's website is excellent for planning European rail travel. The
classic off-line resource is Thomas Cook's European Rail Timetable, used in
conjunction with their map.

Bob


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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[eckinator]

2010/5/5 eckinator :
> 2010/5/5 Cotty :
>> On 4/5/10, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>>Brackets are tough:
>>>
>>>http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html
>>
>> HCB gets 1 vote so far and 'Burk Uzzle' gets 16?? That's all arse-about-
>> tit isn't it??
>
> That's because too many Canikon shooters get him confused with Steve Urkel... 
> =)

That or they're afraid of Admiral Ozzel instead

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

[Larry Colen]

On 5/4/2010 3:17 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 4/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots of
dancers to the people in the photos.


...but sadly not to this list. I actually have a FB account but of the
three links you gave, only one would let me in without logging on, and
as I would have to reach 24 inches up onto a shelf to retrieve my
password from a feint-ruled notebook, I passed.


The target audience for most of the photos was, I'm afraid, not this list.

In theory, these three links should be available to anyone:

Mine-Pentax:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643&id=653299672&l=7dd07b367e

Scott-Nikon: (corrected link)
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122&id=746308024&l=800a4bd0ca

David-Canon and Panny P&S:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsgeisel/sets/72157623990213540/

With the relatively bright light, I'd say that the K-x and the D70 came 
out fairly close with the Rebel XSi lagging a bit. Part of that may have 
to do with Scott and I shooting at blues events a lot more frequently 
and David primarily shooting at Victorian dances, which tend to be much 
more brightly lit.


I don't think that Scott actually posted any that weren't taken in the 
brightly lit section while several of mine (if you can see the tags for 
Derek and Ammy) were. Dave shot quite a few of dancers in the darker 
areas, but exposed for the more brightly lit sections.


I can see that it could be fun to have a dance photography competition 
with different styles of dance in different lighting situations.




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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

[Bob W]

> > 
> > In my example, I was thinking more about just getting from 
> A to B, as 
> > a sheer transport. For that purpose, a couple of hours wasted in 
> > airports beats a couple of days wasted on a train every time.
> 
> I can see your point.
> 
> I agree time spent in airports IS wasted, but from my point 
> of view, time spent on trains is not. I'm not wasting a 
> couple of days on a train, I'm having fun while I'm traveling.

I agree with you. Travelling by train is a very civilised activity (or
inactivity if you prefer). It tends to be shortage of time and the fact of
islands that prevent me using it all the time. When I went to Fez a couple
of years ago I originally planned the whole trip to be a train journey from
London. Unfortunately I didn't have time for that, and flew instead,
although I did have interesting journeys between Casablanca and Fez.

I also spent an interesting month travelling in India by train a few years
ago.

Bob


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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

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2010/5/5 Cotty :
> On 4/5/10, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Brackets are tough:
>>
>>http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html
>
> HCB gets 1 vote so far and 'Burk Uzzle' gets 16?? That's all arse-about-
> tit isn't it??

That's because too many Canikon shooters get him confused with Steve Urkel... =)

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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

[Cotty]

On 4/5/10, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Brackets are tough:
>
>http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html

HCB gets 1 vote so far and 'Burk Uzzle' gets 16?? That's all arse-about-
tit isn't it??

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

[Cotty]

On 4/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

Speaking of which, that frigging volcano cloud's coming this way again :-(

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Re: OT Mac question

[Cotty]

On 4/5/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed:

>iTunes Helper launches iTunes when an iPod or iPhonish device is plugged
>in; i don't think it's the cause of the password dialogs

I thought I said that ;-)

er, *will* say that.

email lists are like star trek with timelines and wormholes...

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

[Cotty]

On 4/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and
>interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social
>networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots of
>dancers to the people in the photos.

...but sadly not to this list. I actually have a FB account but of the
three links you gave, only one would let me in without logging on, and
as I would have to reach 24 inches up onto a shelf to retrieve my
password from a feint-ruled notebook, I passed.

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Re: Long lens updates [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

[eckinator]

2010/5/4 John Sessoms :
>>
>> Remember: Don't pay the ferryman until he gets you to the other
>> side... (Chris de Burgh - anyone remember him?)
>
> Ooh - quintessential early 80s MTV spandex arena rock.

Totally =)

And guess what CdB still has a huge fanbase in Germany, you'd think
people would grow out of it... Lady in Red is my most dreaded dancing
school memory

On the opposite end, the babe in Dire Straits' Money for Nothing vid
still makes me nervous... could be because I was impressionable 15
years old at the time

Cheers
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Re: Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! (OT btw)

[Cotty]

Hey John, whatever you say about us Macfanboys, we ain't never gonna be
as fanatical as you laddy



On 4/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed (and included here
for full effect):

>&%^$#*&^...@$! tech support 
>
>Need to obtain some old documents [copies of orders] to verify a period
>of active duty to qualify for GI Bill benefits. Had to have a user
>account reset - new password. Old password expired more than two years ago.
>
>A week worth of email correspondence back & forth establishing my bona
>fides ... finally got it reset
>
>STILL couldn't log in. Just kept popping me back to the security screen;
>no explanation what I was doing wrong.
>
>Half a day on the phone ... MUST use internet exploder, CANNOT use
>Firefox ... gotta' run setup for IE8 or whatever it is AND internet
>exploder does NOT like the site certificate, so it's gonna' fight me
>tooth and nail every step of the way.
>
>Then another password reset.
>
>FINALLY !!! I'm in and prompted for a new password - 10 char, 2 upper, 2
>lower, 2 numbers, 2 special char + fill for length.
>
>FIRST RESET is only 9 char & only 1 special char. No wonder it wouldn't
>work. Nothing to do with the browser.
>
>Gotta install the site certificate. But internet exploder doesn't want
>to go there, not just no, but HELL NO! Finally manage to FTP it and do a
>manual install.
>
>F^(&*n' Micro$oft!!
>
>Then, before I'm allowed do anything else, I have to go clean out my
>inbox  - 3000+ messages that must be deleted 20 at a time, and then I
>gotta go empty 3000+ messages out of the trash 20 at a time.
>
>To top it all off, the documents I need aren't available on-line. Cannot
>use a password login to access the program that has the documents stored.
>
>I have to go to a secure DoD computer and log in from there with a CAC
>... which I no longer have since I was required to turn it in when I
>retired from the military in 2007.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Adam Maas]

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2010-05-02 09:56 , Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> an easy way to
>> launch seldom-used apps along with access to configuration and the
>> file browser.
>
> that sounds like QuickSilver on the Mac (there are similar tools for Win &
> Linux)

Not really, Quicksilver is really just a bit of UI that mostly
functions as keybindings, allowing keyboard lovers to ignore the mouse
more. If you aren\t mouse-phobic it's much less usable. I've tried it
and loathed it, but emacs users will likely love it.



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Re: pdml annuals have arrived in chicago

[eckinator]

2010/5/3 Bob W :
>
> 3 cheers for Mark, Christine and the USPS!

Three Quarks for Muster Mark indeed!
Have yet to figure out what to do with the other two =)
Ecke

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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[eckinator]

2010/5/4 Mark Roberts :
>
> Seriously, the colors of "camo" have been developed over years to be
> as difficult as possible for human to pick up in a wide variety of
> conditions. Works pretty well: Statistics of motorcycle accidents, for
> example, show riders wearing camo/khaki clothing to be over
> represented in statistics.

ouch... should have thought of that and it is blindingly obvious too,
once I do - I just bought a desert camo parka 'cos where else can you
get new in polybag gore tex for 50 bucks... sounds like i need to shop
for a bright orange vest next... thanks for mentioning
cheers
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Adam Maas]

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2010-05-02 06:07 , Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's
>> 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4).
>
> all this talk of boot times -- i do that a couple times a month
>
 About once a month on Vista. More often on my Mac (old eMac running 10.3.9)



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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

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> From: David Parsons
>>
>> I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do
>> start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is
>> to do. They seem to know what they are talking about, it shouldn't be
>> too difficult for them.

all we do is outline our personal ideal pentax - i see no wrong in that
cheers
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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[John Sessoms]

From: David Parsons

I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do
start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is
to do. They seem to know what they are talking about, it shouldn't be
too difficult for them. 


On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=35222396




I'm not really into what Pentax "needs" to do. I figure that's Pentax's 
 problem to solve. They can do whatever they want. Whatever they think 
they "need" to do is fine with me.


There are some things I would like to have available from Pentax; 
cameras that work with my lenses & lenses that work with my cameras.


And if Pentax decides they "need" to make the things I want available, I 
will buy them ... assuming I can scrape up the money.


Or if Pentax doesn't, and I decide I can't live without them, I'll buy 
from someone who does make them available.


In the meantime, I'm here to "discuss" Pentax - past, present AND 
future. Even if it is "pure speculation".


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vote for your favorite street shooter

[Doug Brewer]

Brackets are tough:

http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html

go for it

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

[John Sessoms]

From: AlunFoto

2010/5/4 Jerry in Arizona :

> Last year we spent 3 weeks in Italy and travelled entirely
> by train.? Enjoyed it immensely.? Even more remarkable
> in that I am an amputee (left leg below the knee)?and
> wheelchair bound.? The Italtrain has a service called
> "Salablue" which put me on a? lift, put me on a disability
> enabled coach, and removed me again at our destination.
> All at no additional cost.


Sounds like you had a great trip!

In my example, I was thinking more about just getting from A to B, as
a sheer transport. For that purpose, a couple of hours wasted in
airports beats a couple of days wasted on a train every time.


I can see your point.

I agree time spent in airports IS wasted, but from my point of view, 
time spent on trains is not. I'm not wasting a couple of days on a 
train, I'm having fun while I'm traveling.


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Larry Colen wrote:
>

>> On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

>>> 2010/5/4 John Sessoms:


 If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.

 Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
 'em.

>>>
>>> Let's see... Oslo ->   London by train...
>>>
>>> Route will go through:
>>> Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.
>>>
>>> No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
>>> national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.
>>>
>>> Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, Sweden. It
>>> costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket to London, takes 3
>>> hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one quarter_ of the way
>>> yet.

>>
>> And, without looking at a map, I'll guess that the distance is somewhere
>> between that of San Francisco to LA, or maybe as far as Seattle.

>
> London to Oslo is about 1100 miles as the crow (or cormorant) flies. A
> lot of water in between: Makes putting down train tracks difficult  :) 
> Time to start digging a tunnel...

>
>

Or about LA to Seattle.
I was referring to the Oslo to Gothenburg leg of the trip.


Or you might be able to find a website to help with planning your itinerary.

http://www.seat61.com/Norway.htm

Mainly devoted to going the other direction, but it does include Oslo -> 
London. I guess they figure you might want to travel the other direction 
to get back to London if nothing else.


I'd fly TO Europe or to England, but once there going to all those other 
different places isn't really so much a hardship for me as it is an 
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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>From: Miserere
>> On 30 April 2010 23:03, Stan Halpin  wrote:
>>> > Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have 
>>> > developed an aversion to camo. What triggered it was the 
>>> > number of complaints about pedestrians being hit by cars on 
>>> > base. Hell - they are all wearing camo! And then they 
>>> > wander across the street expecting people to see them?
>> 
>> That's some damn good camo! I'm sure some smart salesman at the
>> clothes supplier can work that into an ad campaign: "Camouflage so
>> good, not even your own people will see you! [There are currently 3
>> people wearing our camouflage in this ad.]"
>
>I dunno, but it seems to me if you're on an Army base you ought to 
>expect people crossing streets to be wearing camo.

You expect it on the battlefield, too. That doesn't make it stand out
any better!

Seriously, the colors of "camo" have been developed over years to be
as difficult as possible for human to pick up in a wide variety of
conditions. Works pretty well: Statistics of motorcycle accidents, for
example, show riders wearing camo/khaki clothing to be over
represented in statistics.


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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

[P N Stenquist]

On May 4, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On 5/4/2010 12:12 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
Financially, store prints are the best deal. But as a photographer,  
I find printing to an integral part of the hobby. Mastering the  
print is the ultimate challenge, and leaving that to someone else  
doesn't work for me.

Paul


I feel very similarly, which is why I did very little serious  
photography for about 20 years.  Without access to a darkroom, it  
wasn't worth the bother and I spent time and money on other hobbies  
many of which involved fast cars or women, or at least cars I  
attempted to drive fast.


I have finally learned that my resources are finite. My strategy is  
to learn each step of the process in turn. I figure that with raw  
files, I can always go back and reprocess, or reprint the photos  
that are worth doing so, but until I'm competent with a camera, I  
won't have any, or at least many, photos that are worth investing  
the effort.


I hope that in the next year or two that my camera and lighting  
skills will be to the point that I'll get more improvement from  
investing time and money into learning post processing than I will  
practicing taking the pictures.  Somewhere around that time, I'll be  
able to justify much higher printing costs, at least for the best of  
my photos.


In the mean time, it's fun to get 8x12s of my better shots, and  
worth dropping $50-100 a month on prints.


I rarely spend that much per month, although printing was expensive  
when I was sorting out my workflow. But now I can usually make a print  
that I consider perfect on the first attempt. Once in a while, I'll go  
for a second, and then the tweak is usually so minor that it's hard to  
see a difference. My cost in ink and paper to print with my Epson  
R2400 on 13 x 19 Ilford Gold Fibre or Epson Exhibition Fiber is about  
$4 per sheet. That's one 12 x 18 or two 8 x 12 prints. I have boxes  
packed with prints and dozens in frames, so I pick the shots that I  
want to print very carefully.


Startup is expensive. But once you've sorted it all out, printing can  
be quite economical. And very rewarding.


Paul


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Re: OT Mac question

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: OT Mac
> question
>
>
>>
>> I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac.
>>
>
> It seems to give you a lot of grief though.

Sometimes, but not as much  as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor
things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain.

Dave
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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

[John Sessoms]

From: Miserere

On 30 April 2010 23:03, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> Sorry, I have worked for the Army for 39+ years and have 
> developed an aversion to camo. What triggered it was the 
> number of complaints about pedestrians being hit by cars on 
> base. Hell - they are all wearing camo! And then they 
> wander across the street expecting people to see them?

>
> stan


That's some damn good camo! I'm sure some smart salesman at the
clothes supplier can work that into an ad campaign: "Camouflage so
good, not even your own people will see you! [There are currently 3
people wearing our camouflage in this ad.]"


I dunno, but it seems to me if you're on an Army base you ought to 
expect people crossing streets to be wearing camo.


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Re: PESO: Lobster Floats

[steve harley]

On 2010-05-04 15:15 , David Parsons wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4575781282/in/set-72157623860749481/


i'm so used to the colors (grew up in Maine) that black and white is a 
refreshing take -- makes for an interesting abstraction


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PESO: Lobster Floats

[David Parsons]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4575781282/in/set-72157623860749481/

I went with friends to Rockport, Ma, to take pictures in this
quintessential New England fishing town.

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Re: Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

[Chris Mitchell]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Subject: Re: GESO - First Chicago shots
> 
> Chris Mitchell wrote:
> 
> >>From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round the city.
> >http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/
> 
> Isn't the Bean fun to photograph? And to watch other people
> photographing?
> 
> Here's my personal best Bean shot:
> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d703445.htm
> Taken with the 10-17 fisheye, which bends the buildings of the skyline
> dramatically... while the counter-distortion of the Bean makes the
> reflections straight.
Yes, it's a great spot an that's an excellent shot.

Chris


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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[David Parsons]

I'd love to see everyone there who knows what Pentax 'needs' to do
start their own camera company and show everyone else how easy it is
to do.  They seem to know what they are talking about, it shouldn't be
too difficult for them.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=35222396
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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

[AlunFoto]

2010/5/4 Jerry in Arizona :
> Last year we spent 3 weeks in Italy and travelled entirely
> by train.  Enjoyed it immensely.  Even more remarkable
> in that I am an amputee (left leg below the knee) and
> wheelchair bound.  The Italtrain has a service called
> "Salablue" which put me on a  lift, put me on a disability
> enabled coach, and removed me again at our destination.
> All at no additional cost.

Sounds like you had a great trip!

In my example, I was thinking more about just getting from A to B, as
a sheer transport. For that purpose, a couple of hours wasted in
airports beats a couple of days wasted on a train every time.


Jostein

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen

On 5/4/2010 11:00 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> On 5/4/2010 1:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



>>
>> My photos:
>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643&id=653299672&l=7dd07b367e
>>
>> Scott's:
>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122&id=746308024
>>
>> David's:
>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009&id=1587681869
>>

> Hard to see a comparuison when you have to log in to look, (not yours
> but David's and Scott's)
>


I agree.  Facebook sucks, and it keeps coming up with new and 
interesting forms of suckage too. However, it's the defacto social 
networking site and the most effective way of distributing snapshots of 
dancers to the people in the photos.


Scott's public link, just posted is:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122&id=746308024&l=800a4bd0c



"This content is currently unavailable"
"This public photo link is invalid. It may have expired."
"* Sign Up for Facebook"


Yeah, as if!

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Re: Re:GESO - First Chicago shots (Chris Mitchell)

[Chris Mitchell]

> 
JayT wrote:
> Subject: Re:GESO - First Chicago shots 
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/

>   
> Nice images Chris,
> 
> I especially like the tower forms in #2228. You're lucky to be there so early 
> and 
> have time to roam around. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the weather for 
> the 
> weekend too.
> Looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the gang on Friday.
> 
Thanks JayT - Good to hear you're coming. 

Chris


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

[Jerry in Arizona]

Last year we spent 3 weeks in Italy and travelled entirely by train.  Enjoyed 
it immensely.  Even more remarkable in that I am an amputee (left leg below the 
knee) and wheelchair bound.  The Italtrain has a service called "Salablue" 
which put me on a  lift, put me on a disability enabled coach, and removed me 
again at our destination.  All at no additional cost.



Larry Colen wrote:

>On 5/4/2010 12:51 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
>> 2010/5/4 John Sessoms:
>>>
>>> If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.
>>>
>>> Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
>>> 'em.


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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

[John Francis]

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 03:59:30PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Brian Walters"
>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 06:29 -0700, "Jack Davis" 
>> wrote:
>>> > http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=35222396
>>> > > J
>>
>>
>> Ah, geeze Jack.  We were just recovering from the K7 Replacement thread.
>>
>> Looks like my inbox might be overflowing when I log on in the morning.  
>>  :-) >
>>
>> And so to bed
>
> Doesn't seem to me like there's anything new or controversial that we  
> didn't already know.

Oh, I don't know.  This is the first time I've seen anyone from Pentax
mention a camera beyond the K-7 in the lineup (other than the 645D).

It looks as though we might see the expected mid-life kicker for the K-7
later on this year.  Of course there is all the usual speculation about
what this will be, and the whole range of improbable suggestions (such
as using the lower-resolution K-x sensor).  But that's nothing compared
to the predictions as to just what a higher-spec camera body would be.
There's the all-too-predictable dichotomy between those who expect (or
at least hope) to see a 'full frame' sensor and those who are sure that
Pentax aren't large enough to have three separate lens systems.

Only time will tell.


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