Re: PESO: Yellowbook
What a beautiful photo. It's a pity they cropped it, they should have printed the book in landscape format. I hope they pay the going rate. Dave On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:50 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote: The 6 calendars, with tax were about $120.00 CAN. I received them last night, and the first thing i noticed was i made a 1 day boo boo on two of the three anniversaries. Treat them like stamps - the mistaken ones are much more valuable. FWIW I agree with Larry, the red sharpie is a great idea. Turn the disaster into an attribute. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Bob W wrote: I was 16 or so when the album was released, although I'd seen them play it live before then. I often used to wonder if I'd already missed the starting gun. Still do, and I'm 53 now. These spikes are starting to get a bit uncomfortable. I first listened to that album only a couple of years ago. I'd watched the episode of the Classic Albums show. David Gilmour says that he wishes he could put a pair of headphones on and listen to it for the first time. So a while later I bought the CD and did exactly that. I don't listen to it very often... I really should put it on again sometime. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant
2010/11/18 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Most, however, are born to dive under water . . . . Thus, I take it, their life is quite dive-rse... :-) Yes and they scub ap quite a bit of fish along the way -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO roast beef, sourdough, extra sharp cheddar, bacon and avocado
Dang Larry, your camera takes nice pictures =) 2010/11/17 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I thought that lunch looked nice enough to be worth a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5185616376/in/set-72157625411402588/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO roast beef, sourdough, extra sharp cheddar, bacon and avocado
On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:17 AM, eckinator wrote: Dang Larry, your camera takes nice pictures =) For a Pentax anyways. 2010/11/17 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I thought that lunch looked nice enough to be worth a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5185616376/in/set-72157625411402588/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sydney PDML?
On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Anyway. I have a few spare days next week. If Rob's available we might yet get a chance to do some LXing. Right, I've finally got the Mrs to write out an itinerary. I've let her handle all the bookings this time around. Wednesday is out. Tuesday evening is also out. Friday (and afterwards) is out. So that leaves Monday (we arrive at 8am), most of Tuesday and all of Thursday. We have a lot of other small things planned so I can't just go off shooting for all of those times :) But I should be able to spare a couple of hours during one of those days. Let me know what suits you guys. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Engineer humor
Warning, a pun bad enough that I laughed out loud: http://partiallyclips.com/2010/09/24/workplace-conversation/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso mr. mom
Fun shot IMO but the midwife's words come to mind who said it is consensus in the medical community that the baby björn style carriers with the legs hanging down are bad for infant hip development and that even though the marketing björns advertis this way of carrying a baby as good and novel, you're not supposed to carry a baby face forward because not everyone's belly has the proper curve and also there is much less comfort for the baby and not all can handle the excess of input too well... hence mixed emotions. thanks for sharing nonetheless Ecke 2010/11/13 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Hi Everyone: I've reluctant to show this pic because I've been afraid that some might find it vulgar because of what the dog is doing. But the truth is, I find it funny--not vulgar, but I would be very interested in knowing your views. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/mrmom/content/IMGP1444_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Quantitative Easing Explained
Since the Keynsian multiplier has been found to be less than one, it really makes no sense as a policy. In fact it seems to actually inhibit economic growth in the mid term. On 11/16/2010 7:07 AM, eckinator wrote: no on Japan but just looking at the recent developed of the euro - dollar - gold triangle is scary, there is no real world backing for that. plus the European Central Bank with its guarantee to buy back bad EU member bonds has opened a euro dollar swap gate which China is making good use of - they've been heavily buying those bonds with their USD reserve and selling them back to the ECB, thus far to equivalent to 9% of the greek GNP and they'll keep doing so with other EU bad bond members as well. also, the idea of an artificial inflation as pursued by Bernanke just postpones the bursting of the - then bigger - bubble. the amount of USD in circulation vs national reserve ratio has changed dramatically over the past years. you can't do Keynes 1 (artificial growth through overspending borrowed or printed money) over and over without a thought to Keynes 2 (consolidation and debt reduction). look at what happened to Greece when its CDS ratings went to the shitter and you know the next thing to happen to anyone with a GNP to debt ratio like theirs without some consolidation... all Bernanke wants to do is fuel the economy by giving people the idea that it is a good thing to spend money they don't have until those loans go bad again... or the economy regains momentum which incidentally didn't happen the last couple of times this was tried... 2010/11/16 Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com: Peter, No reason to believe Bernanki isn't just as good or better than Greenspan and the others. Remember Greenspan is the guy who brought you the mortgage/housing bubble, talk about irrational exhuberance? ! ! ! I can't believe folks want to take us back to 1932 and Depression monetary policies. :-( Anybody checked Japan's growth lately?!? Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:54 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The Fed is supposed to manipulate the economy within certain limits. Mostly to anticipate the size of the money supply required to match economic activity, to smooth out peeks and troughs due to natural variations. Money acts as a lubricant in an economy, and just as with an engine the wrong amount of oil will ruin it . The fact that The Fed has proven to be utterly incompetent at it's task, about 3/4 of the time and the Obama administration has chosen them to implement policies well beyond it's original scope, (which did I mention it is often incompetent at), just scares the bejesus out of me. The current Fed Chairman isn't Milton Freedman, he isn't Paul Volcker, he isn't even Allen Greenspan, at least Greenspan had some idea that something was going wrong... On 11/15/2010 10:38 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: The point of manipulating the economy is not whether what is done is good or bad; the point is to manipulate the economy. Dan On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:30 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.comwrote: I've seen it. The only problem I have with it is that they seem to think that deflation is good. It isn't any better for the economy than massive inflation, just bad in a different way. On 11/15/2010 10:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-kfeature=player_embedded -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT you've all seen ken rock well...
... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a photo advice page both humorous and helpful. Let me know if you want wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute some content. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:33 AM, eckinator wrote: ... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a photo advice page both humorous and helpful. You're a sick man Mr. Inator. I like that. Let me know if you want wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute some content. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:56 AM, David Mann wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Bob W wrote: I was 16 or so when the album was released, although I'd seen them play it live before then. I often used to wonder if I'd already missed the starting gun. Still do, and I'm 53 now. These spikes are starting to get a bit uncomfortable. I first listened to that album only a couple of years ago. I'd watched the episode of the Classic Albums show. David Gilmour says that he wishes he could put a pair of headphones on and listen to it for the first time. So a while later I bought the CD and did exactly that. I don't listen to it very often... I really should put it on again sometime. I'm not the sort of person to advocate the use of illegal substances such as cannabis. But if I were, I'd say that one of the most memorable experiences of a certain person, was when he was 19 years old, getting stoned and listening to the entirety of the wall with his brand new NAD 3020 amp pushing the speakers for all that it was worth. Even so, Wish you were here has long been my favorite PInk Floyd Album, and possibly my favorite album. The Wall tells a great story, but there is almost an album's worth of great songs, and a little over an album's worth of good songs. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Platinum Print Guy
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Little has been spoken of archrival Harry Westmen, who pioneered albumen printing on white bread. All his great prints have been either lost or eaten. A related process is gaining popularity: http://www.inseq.net/zuse.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Strange news...
And I complained about some internet theft from 11 year old horse back riders. :-) Dave On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: A copy of the picture I had at the exhibition in Chicago http://www.thrane.name/page3/page11/files/page11-1008-full.html was been stolen last week from an exhibition in the Central station Metro in Oslo. It was locked behind a glass door but the glass was not broken so the thief had a key. The print was 60x90cm!! I guess someone really wanted it, or at least the story is so funny that I don´t want a boring version... DagT http://www.thrane.name -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
Thank you Larry =) On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site with you've seen ken rock well, now come see barbie roll better may be a different story altogether. Any lawyers on the list? Any opinions? Cheers Ecke 2010/11/18 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:33 AM, eckinator wrote: ... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a photo advice page both humorous and helpful. You're a sick man Mr. Inator. I like that. Let me know if you want wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute some content. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Platinum Print Guy
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Little has been spoken of archrival Harry Westmen, who pioneered albumen printing on white bread. All his great prints have been either lost or eaten. A related process is gaining popularity: http://www.inseq.net/zuse.html I'm told all those ever do is turn out pictures of the virgin Mary... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yellowbook
Kind of you, Bob. Thanks! Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 8:35 PM Jack, You don't need more approval. Your pictures are consistently beautiful and of professional quality. I always look forward to viewing what you post. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Appreciated comments, Christine! Will I ever get past needing approval? ;) Jack --- On Wed, 11/17/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 5:42 PM Big congrats, Jack! Well done! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:50 AM Subject: PESO: Yellowbook Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yellowbook
Thanks, David! The going rate in this case is photo credit inside the front cover. The book is provided free to households and businesses in those towns listed on the cover. As you point out, the cropped gaudy cover isn't the best presentation. ;) Jack --- On Thu, 11/18/10, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz Subject: Re: PESO: Yellowbook To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 12:32 AM What a beautiful photo. It's a pity they cropped it, they should have printed the book in landscape format. I hope they pay the going rate. Dave On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:50 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Received a call from a Sacramento based 'phonebook publisher. They had found my website (I gather) and wanted to know if I'd be willing to allow them to use one of my photos for the cover of the local 2011-2012 Yellowbook. Liberal photo credit offered which would appear on the back of the cover. As I'm sure is the case virtually everywhere, at least in this country, the book is delivered free to all listed city/town households and businesses. My website will appear as a part of my photo credit, so I agreed. Jack Cover: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=549 Photo: (LX, 24mm Takumar) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=550 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Phonecamera
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New K5 firmware is out.
Link and comments here: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/123030-k5-firmware-available.html Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Phonecamera
convergence is always a good thing and this was overdue good for the environment as well as out pockets and wallets now could someone please make a wireless live view transceiver remote app to control a dslr with a smartphone? Ecke 2010/11/18 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: http://en.akihabaranews.com/70707/phones/lg-l-03c-the-%E2%80%9Cfirst%E2%80%9D-point-shoot-phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K5 firmware is out.
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Link and comments here: I have installed it and no probs so far. Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. Could this depend on the speed of the SD card and the number of frames that can already be saved while the buffer is filling? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
resetting frame count
I know this is probably in the archives, but I couldn't find it. Swapping a card from my k7 to the k5, I screwed up the frame count on the K-5. I thought I could set it back to what it should be by renumbering a frame on a card and using that card in the camera. Didn't work. How is it done? Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I think I may have a problem....
I have been joking about selling a kidney in order to pay for a K-5, but that may not be necessary. I took a little inventory last night and what I found surprised me. I've accumulated a fair amount of stuff in my pursuit of legacy glass for my K200D (and later K-x). A rather SILLY amount of stuff. Even eliminating the stuff that I really want to keep for myself, I seem to have acquired about 22 Pentax bodies, 3 Olympus bodies, 3 Canon bodies, and 1 Minolta body. And then there are the lenses for the above. (I've also got three Yashica rangefinders and a couple of SX-70s along with a few unusual items like a Walz Wide, psuedo rangefinder and a Zeiss Ikon Contessamat.) Nothing terribly valuable individually, but collectively I think I should have little trouble in amassing $1500. I've been sentimentally hanging onto my Mamiya TLR bodies and lenses, and I have special project in mind for them so I will sell them only as a last resort. Suffice it to say that I may be able to keep the area Post Office busy for a while. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resetting frame count
Allow the camera to reset the File No. in the Memory submenu (uncheck the File No. box), then put a properly numbered file in the SD card. That way the number will start from the file No. of the picture instead of zeroing. Then check the File No. item in the Memory submenu, so that it won't reset again next. Dario - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: resetting frame count I know this is probably in the archives, but I couldn't find it. Swapping a card from my k7 to the k5, I screwed up the frame count on the K-5. I thought I could set it back to what it should be by renumbering a frame on a card and using that card in the camera. Didn't work. How is it done? Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 10.0.1153 / Database dei virus: 424/3263 - Data di rilascio: 17/11/2010 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: resetting frame count
Thanks Dario! On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Allow the camera to reset the File No. in the Memory submenu (uncheck the File No. box), then put a properly numbered file in the SD card. That way the number will start from the file No. of the picture instead of zeroing. Then check the File No. item in the Memory submenu, so that it won't reset again next. Dario - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: resetting frame count I know this is probably in the archives, but I couldn't find it. Swapping a card from my k7 to the k5, I screwed up the frame count on the K-5. I thought I could set it back to what it should be by renumbering a frame on a card and using that card in the camera. Didn't work. How is it done? Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 10.0.1153 / Database dei virus: 424/3263 - Data di rilascio: 17/11/2010 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K5 firmware is out.
Pentax also advises 20 RAW at high(?) ISO. Jack --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com Subject: New K5 firmware is out. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 5:50 AM Link and comments here: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/123030-k5-firmware-available.html Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Strange news...
Den 18. nov. 2010 kl. 07.28 skrev Boris Liberman: On 11/18/2010 4:08 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I can't fucking believe prints have still not been returned. I'm so sorry this has happened to you, Mark, and other folks. I'll see what I can do in the next few days. Ugh. Despite the slow return of prints, I hope all PDMLers still feel that the exhibition was worthwhile and a fun adventure for the list. I'd feel really bad if the slow return-of-prints soured people against any future exhibitions that might be offered to PDML. Christine No news over here, Christine. Don't you worry too much, although I surely would like to see my print not getting lost. My company is changing offices so that hanging my picture on the walls of the new offices would be somehow appropriate. It will take time however, to make my wish come true. Boris Nothing here either. A little bit funny that it was the same photograph. Someone out there doesn´t want me to have it on my wall... DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW45 - Sunset
Thanks! DagT Den 18. nov. 2010 kl. 02.39 skrev Christine Aguila: Very clever, DatT! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: DagT li...@thrane.name To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: PAW45 - Sunset http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, da*16...@45mm, 1/125s, f/8, ISO200 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Phonecamera
No one uses phones anymore they all text... On 11/18/2010 8:47 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://en.akihabaranews.com/70707/phones/lg-l-03c-the-%E2%80%9Cfirst%E2%80%9D-point-shoot-phone -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
I think you'd do all right in the good old days if you sold it as satire. Today who knows. On 11/18/2010 7:07 AM, eckinator wrote: Thank you Larry =) On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site with you've seen ken rock well, now come see barbie roll better may be a different story altogether. Any lawyers on the list? Any opinions? Cheers Ecke 2010/11/18 Larry Colenl...@red4est.com: On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:33 AM, eckinator wrote: ... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a photo advice page both humorous and helpful. You're a sick man Mr. Inator. I like that. Let me know if you want wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute some content. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:56, David Mann wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Bob W wrote: I was 16 or so when the album was released, although I'd seen them play it live before then. I often used to wonder if I'd already missed the starting gun. Still do, and I'm 53 now. These spikes are starting to get a bit uncomfortable. I first listened to that album only a couple of years ago. I'd watched the episode of the Classic Albums show. David Gilmour says that he wishes he could put a pair of headphones on and listen to it for the first time. So a while later I bought the CD and did exactly that. My first listen to it was back in 1979 after an all-night party. I'd borrowed a friend's record and put it on the turntable when I got home. Then... because I'd been up all night, I closed my eyes and dozed a bit while listening. Needless to say, I was a little startled at the opening notes to the song Time! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
Speaking of Barbie, this gives me a good excuse to point out one of the more BIZARRE Barbie Dolls I have seen yet. Frankly, I think it is for the birds. http://tinyurl.com/27x87kh Darren Addy Kearney, NE - - - Nothing is sure but Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
IANAL, but parody is protected speech. And unless you intend to make it look as though yours is really a Mattel site, you should be safe. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 01:07:37PM +0100, eckinator wrote: Thank you Larry =) On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site with you've seen ken rock well, now come see barbie roll better may be a different story altogether. Any lawyers on the list? Any opinions? Cheers Ecke 2010/11/18 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:33 AM, eckinator wrote: ... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a photo advice page both humorous and helpful. You're a sick man Mr. Inator. I like that. Let me know if you want wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute some content. Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K5 firmware is out.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 03:39:32PM +0100, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Link and comments here: I have installed it and no probs so far. Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. Could this depend on the speed of the SD card and the number of frames that can already be saved while the buffer is filling? More likely is the amount of compression attained; if your images compress really well the buffer will hold more. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
Tippi Hedren had a nervous breakdown during the filming of the birds. I think that doll is totally insensitive, and disrespectful of her memory, except that she's still alive. On 11/18/2010 12:04 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: Speaking of Barbie, this gives me a good excuse to point out one of the more BIZARRE Barbie Dolls I have seen yet. Frankly, I think it is for the birds. http://tinyurl.com/27x87kh Darren Addy Kearney, NE - - - Nothing is sure but Death and Pentaxes. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K5 firmware is out.
Sd Card speed, compression rate of thé image and iso (high iso noise meaning less compression). 2010/11/18, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Link and comments here: I have installed it and no probs so far. Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. Could this depend on the speed of the SD card and the number of frames that can already be saved while the buffer is filling? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K5 firmware is out.
Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Link and comments here: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/123030-k5-firmware-available.html Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. I just had a vision of Steve Martin running around in circles shouting, The new firmware is out! The new firmware is out! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New K5 firmware is out.
..and boy do I need it! J --- On Thu, 11/18/10, m...@robertstech.com m...@robertstech.com wrote: From: m...@robertstech.com m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: New K5 firmware is out. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 9:30 AM Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Link and comments here: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/123030-k5-firmware-available.html Some user got 24 RAW at Iso100, from approx 20 officialy stated. I just had a vision of Steve Martin running around in circles shouting, The new firmware is out! The new firmware is out! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: more clouds from the french alps and an unusual diner .....
thanks Christine . i've seen some incredible clouds over there dominique Le 18/11/10 02:46, Christine Aguila a écrit : That's a very dramatic cloud, dominique! Nicely composed frame. Cheers, christine - Original Message - From: Madame RD romd...@orange.fr To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:05 PM Subject: Re: PESO: more clouds from the french alps and an unusual diner . thanks . they were gathering on what was left of the leaves .. I'd completely forgotten about my uncle's garden and it was too late to do anything for the cauliflowers so I shot those d...m creepers instead of squashing 'em !. ;))) dominique Le 17/11/10 17:50, Steven Desjardins a écrit : I really like the caterpillar shot. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Madame RDromd...@orange.fr wrote: the colours were incredible ... I'd never seen anything like this . I wondered about cropping the bottom of the picture but decided against it .. I felt it emphasized the sheer size of the cloud http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184368445/#/photos/la_meduse/5184368445/lightbox/ had a go at the garden too http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/5184320307/#/photos/la_meduse/5184320307/lightbox/ dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Of course, I would never come up with an overwrought title like that! That wasn't wrought, it was probably mild steel. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm back, and so is @PDML
On 16 November 2010 01:44, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: The summer trip to Chicago, except for the couple of hours I spent in your company, was disastrous on some other fronts, and then I got super-busy at work, then I noticed I was like 2000-plus messages behind on PDML. Also, the PESO/Twitter mashup broke when Twitter introduced a barbaric technology called OAuth. Long story short: recently I've been shooting more and consequently missing y'all and your pictures. So I fixed the mashup and will post a couple of pix to prove I'm here. A quick mashup primer: It's at http://twitter.com/#!/PDML, @PDML for short, and if you're a twitter/Pentax kind of person you might enjoy it. If you post anything with a subject line that begins PESO or GESO it shows up there. It's case-sensitive, so if you want to avoid that just say Peso or peso or whatever. I wasn't smart enough to figure out how to make it skip over the hundreds of PESOs since it broke in August so it's doing 15 per hour and should be caught up in a couple of days. Photo news... recently I've been sort of infatuated with the stupidly-good-for-its-size-and-price Canon S90. So when I travel I take my K20, the 40mm and 21mm Limiteds, and the S90; a very compact and versatile kit. The S90 has a bit of zoom and is damn near the K20's equal for low-light. I am totally planning on not buying a K-5. Totally, I keep telling myself. -Tim So Tim, if I read your message correctly, you said that when you had to choose between the PDML and taking photographs, you went with taking photographs. Now we know where your allegiance lies, Tim! I'll talk to you again when you get your priorities straight. Humph! --M. PS: You've missed very little, apart from a minor war between Godders and Bill Rob; The Six Days War, I believe we're calling it. Nobody's sure who won, but the PDML is the clear loser I think. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:07 AM, eckinator wrote: Thank you Larry =) On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site with you've seen ken rock well, now come see barbie roll better may be a different story altogether. Any lawyers on the list? Any opinions? Don't even mention Kennyboy. Let people figure it out for themselves. If anyone asks tell them that you named it after an old girlfriend who was into photography and played the bass in a punk polka band. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Phonecamera
With what do they text if not a phone? On 10-11-18 11:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No one uses phones anymore they all text... On 11/18/2010 8:47 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://en.akihabaranews.com/70707/phones/lg-l-03c-the-%E2%80%9Cfirst%E2%80%9D-point-shoot-phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Engineer humor
Groan -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Warning, a pun bad enough that I laughed out loud: http://partiallyclips.com/2010/09/24/workplace-conversation/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Phonecamera
Specially designed texting devices, that just barely resemble a phone. On 11/18/2010 1:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: With what do they text if not a phone? On 10-11-18 11:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No one uses phones anymore they all text... On 11/18/2010 8:47 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://en.akihabaranews.com/70707/phones/lg-l-03c-the-%E2%80%9Cfirst%E2%80%9D-point-shoot-phone -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
digital bw
I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: Battery Question
On 2010-11-12 11:44 , John Sessoms wrote: I don't know if there will be any other windoze computers along on the trip. I could format my external drive for Mac HFS or HFS+ and install MacDrive on my windoze box when I get home. just noticed this; format the external as FAT-32 -- any Mac can read it and you won't have to install any software on Windows -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
The only filters that I feel are necessary/useful in the digital world are Neutral Density filters (for those times you want longer shutter speeds at equiv. apertures or gradient NDs) and maybe polarizers. Other than that, you can do the filter-thing for various BW enhancements with a post-processing product like Nik Software's Silver Efex Pro. http://www.flickr.com/groups/silver_efex_pro/pool/ Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso mr. mom
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: peso mr. mom Fun shot IMO but the midwife's words come to mind who said it is consensus in the medical community that the baby björn style carriers with the legs hanging down are bad for infant hip development and that even though the marketing björns advertis this way of carrying a baby as good and novel, you're not supposed to carry a baby face forward because not everyone's belly has the proper curve and also there is much less comfort for the baby and not all can handle the excess of input too well... hence mixed emotions. thanks for sharing nonetheless Ecke Maybe he should have the kid on a leash and put the dogs in the carrier ! 2010/11/13 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Hi Everyone: I've reluctant to show this pic because I've been afraid that some might find it vulgar because of what the dog is doing. But the truth is, I find it funny--not vulgar, but I would be very interested in knowing your views. http://www.caguila.com/caguila/mrmom/content/IMGP1444_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Yeah, LR has sliders for each color (10 or 12 different colors and shades, IIRC). I really like how LR handles BW conversions. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:21 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: OT I;m such a friggin idiot On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:56 AM, David Mann wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Bob W wrote: I was 16 or so when the album was released, although I'd seen them play it live before then. I often used to wonder if I'd already missed the starting gun. Still do, and I'm 53 now. These spikes are starting to get a bit uncomfortable. I first listened to that album only a couple of years ago. I'd watched the episode of the Classic Albums show. David Gilmour says that he wishes he could put a pair of headphones on and listen to it for the first time. So a while later I bought the CD and did exactly that. I don't listen to it very often... I really should put it on again sometime. I'm not the sort of person to advocate the use of illegal substances such as cannabis. And you say you're from Calie-fornia ! But if I were, I'd say that one of the most memorable experiences of a certain person, was when he was 19 years old, getting stoned and listening to the entirety of the wall with his brand new NAD 3020 amp pushing the speakers for all that it was worth. Even so, Wish you were here has long been my favorite PInk Floyd Album, and possibly my favorite album. The Wall tells a great story, but there is almost an album's worth of great songs, and a little over an album's worth of good songs. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:16 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: The only filters that I feel are necessary/useful in the digital world are Neutral Density filters (for those times you want longer shutter speeds at equiv. apertures or gradient NDs) and maybe polarizers. In most cases, I'd agree with you. I was experimenting at the local dive bar/blues club last night, photographing a friend's gig. The red channel is two to three stops brighter than the blue and green channels. I was experimenting both with and without blue filters, and both with and without in camera white balance. With a blue filter on the camera, I was able to set the custom white balance, however without a blue filter, the ambient color balance was so far out of whack, that the camera would not set a custom color balance. I haven't had a chance to process the photos and see how the best of each set turns out. I suspect that for shooting color, then a filter could actually be useful for bringing radically out of color balance scenes back into balance, if you can handle the loss of light. However, in these situations, what any sane person would do is just convert to black and white in post. This is a situation where: 1) I REALLY wish the histogram could show raw data, rather than JPEG. 2) I wish that lightroom had an extra stop or two of adjustment on color balance. 3) It would be nice to be able to adjust the ISO of each color channel separately, so that color balance could be achieved and still expose to the right on all three channels. Other than that, you can do the filter-thing for various BW enhancements with a post-processing product like Nik Software's Silver Efex Pro. http://www.flickr.com/groups/silver_efex_pro/pool/ Yeah, for what Collin asked, just do it in software. All filters on your camera do is let you choose what information that you throw away before it even gets to the sensor. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
In fact, I've used the LR low-contrast and high-contrast presets for making BW and they do pretty well. I always tinker but on a couple occasions just went almost entirely with the preset, because it was so good. -Tim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, LR has sliders for each color (10 or 12 different colors and shades, IIRC). I really like how LR handles BW conversions. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:21 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
On 2010-11-18 05:07 , eckinator wrote: Thank you Larry =) On a serious note, I wonder if I should ask Mattel first rather than to have them go after me later - I figure that using the words Ken or Barbie by themselves is no big whoop whereare advertising the site with you've seen ken rock well, now come see barbie roll better may be a different story altogether. Any lawyers on the list? Any opinions? IANAL, but a domain search shows that 2642 domains starting with barbie, most of them parked, such as barbie-hell.com, barbiebotox.com, barbiedreamhearse.com (that one's live), barbiemdplasticsurgery.com, plus a bunch that include barbie like atheistbarbie.com, aussiebarbiebabes.com, badassbarbie.com i noticed that barbiefuck.com is locked by Mattel ... so at least you are in good company; probably safer if you don't put any barbie doll images on the site -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
I use Matt Kloskowski's black and white presets as a starting point at times. http://lightroomkillertips.com/2009/presets-better-black-and-whites/ On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Tim Bray wrote: In fact, I've used the LR low-contrast and high-contrast presets for making BW and they do pretty well. I always tinker but on a couple occasions just went almost entirely with the preset, because it was so good. -Tim On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, LR has sliders for each color (10 or 12 different colors and shades, IIRC). I really like how LR handles BW conversions. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:21 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Matthew Montgomery matt...@electricjunk.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Paul the heretic Stenquist wrote: That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Anyone here have a good background in bw printing? Have you found a digital technique that can equal split printing? I haven't yet, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Split printing involves altering the times for separate high contrast and low contrast filter settings. That way I can burn in low contrast textures for n(1) time while doing high contrast for n(2) time for other purposes. This allows me to emphasize the details of texture while not over-exposing the print. My personal favorite technique. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
2010/11/18 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Don't even mention Kennyboy. Let people figure it out for themselves. If anyone asks tell them that you named it after an old girlfriend who was into photography and played the bass in a punk polka band. Thanks Larry. Sticking with the KR team I promise to PayPal you $5 every time I use that explanation... ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
The only minor tinkering I've done in this area is use a polarizer on the BW preset and compare that to a post color conversion. Felt the color channel conversion capabilities were superior. --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net Subject: digital bw To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 11:02 AM I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Price Today the K-5 In USA
Interestingly, Buy.com has Adorama selling the K-5 body for $1493 + 16 shipping ($1509 total), while the Adorama site itself has it priced at $1565 with free shipping. Buy.com currently shows it In Stock and shipping in 1 to 2 business days. http://www.buy.com/prod/pentax-k-5-16-3-megapixel-digital-slr-camera-body-only-black-3-lcd/q/loc/111/217451047.html Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Delurking for a moment. The K-5, today, Thursday A.M. at 17 minutes after midnight. BH wins the Low Price War, $1493.99 -- Except they are sold out. And they will have to notify you when it is back in stock. If you Really want to buy one, Adorama @ $1565.47, body only. Zo... a Long 14,9 for one you can't hold, and a long 15,5 for one you can hold. U.S. Dollars, of course. Hm. Back to Lurking, Galloway -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
I haven't looked at the Pentax Photo Gallery in a very long time, but I assure you that what I print is hardly 3 tones. ;-) I capture raw format and use Lightroom (and/or Photoshop) to render BW. Rendering BW is not a Saturday a.m. experiment if you want to be skilled at it. Regards filters, for most things, ND, grad ND and Polarizers are all that are necessary once you're doing digital capture. The traditional spectral translation adjustments afforded by Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, and Blue filters are all more than capably replaced by various techniques in image processing the color channels. Special purpose filters ... Infrared, ultraviolet, effects, etc ... are of course still needed if you are trying to capture something outside of rendering normal visible light to BW. Something you can't do in BW film capture using filters but is quite easy to accomplish with digital capture and image processing is selective change to the spectral translation within a single exposure. For instance, if you have one section of a photo where you want to separate tones arising from clothing but need a different filter for skin tone, you can apply one set of digital filters to one area and a different set of digital filters to the other area of the photo. The traditional selective tonal gradation adjustments performed by dodge and burn operations are also easily performed in image processing. And just like in film and wet lab BW photography, there is a wide assortment of paper types and surfaces which affect the output image. Computer displays remain tricksy things to present photographs with ... prints are a much more stable presentation platform. Digital capture and image processing bring new levels of capability and quality to BW photography. :-) On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Paul the heretic Stenquist wrote: That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Anyone here have a good background in bw printing? Have you found a digital technique that can equal split printing? I haven't yet, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Split printing involves altering the times for separate high contrast and low contrast filter settings. That way I can burn in low contrast textures for n(1) time while doing high contrast for n(2) time for other purposes. This allows me to emphasize the details of texture while not over-exposing the print. My personal favorite technique. You can't do that in raw conversion but you can do it in Photoshop with layer masks. You can even do two different raw conversions, one with high contrast and one with low contrast, and combine them. BTW: In theory, because of metamerism it's impossible for post-processing of digital captures to emulate all the effects possible with colored filters and BW film. Once you've split the broad-spectrum light into three grayscale channels some information is lost that can never be recovered. In theory. I've never had any trouble getting the effect I wanted in digital post-processing, though. (But, come to think of it, Larry Colen's example might be a case of this happening...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Photoshop allows a large measure of filter effects in converting color to BW, using slider tools that show the preview of the filter's effects. The biggest problem I have when shooting digital is blown highlights that I cannot burn and basically have to replace using cut a paste from an adjoining area. I've gotten to the point that I often have to use exposure compensation of -1 to avoid blown highlights. Jeffery On Nov 18, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Godfrey's Contraption
Mild steel is never as tasty as sharp steel. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Of course, I would never come up with an overwrought title like that! That wasn't wrought, it was probably mild steel. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Phonecamera
iEditor rears its ugly head... 2010/11/18 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Specially designed texting devices, that just barely resemble a phone. On 11/18/2010 1:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: With what do they text if not a phone? On 10-11-18 11:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: No one uses phones anymore they all text... On 11/18/2010 8:47 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: http://en.akihabaranews.com/70707/phones/lg-l-03c-the-%E2%80%9Cfirst%E2%80%9D-point-shoot-phone -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Rendering BW is not a Saturday a.m. experiment if you want to be skilled at it. Boy, *that's* the truth! Especially if you're skilled at BW darkroom printing: There's a whole new set of techniques to learn and old ones to unlearn. The latter is harder :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Some good information. Thanks all. But do you ever feel like rendering bw is like rendering lard? It takes a long time and it's messy but good pie crust and pastry are better that way. I feel the same way about the chemical darkroom and only wish days were longer. There is so much I want to do, to study, and to write. But alas ... Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
I'm in the process of setting up an old school BW darkroom just because I miss the process/smells/etc. The only film I really plan on shooting from this point forward will be BW that I develop myself. I'm also interested in exploring alternative processes in the monochrome world. However, if you get a really good image that requires a lot of separate gyrations to produce a perfect print, getting consistent prints can be an expensive pain. That's one huge benefit to digital (albeit an obvious one). Once you've got the digital file the way you want it, any number of prints with that same perfection is assured. Of course, that is one more thing to make the old process more singular/valuable. I guess I'd liken it to automobiles and bicycles. The one didn't become totally impractical or unenjoyable just because the other is used (or practical) more often. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Some good information. Thanks all. But do you ever feel like rendering bw is like rendering lard? It takes a long time and it's messy but good pie crust and pastry are better that way. I feel the same way about the chemical darkroom and only wish days were longer. There is so much I want to do, to study, and to write. But alas ... Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
On Nov 18, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Paul the heretic Stenquist wrote: That's probably the result of sloppy conversions. I don't employ filters, but I convert using the ACR BW function, which allows you to control the gray level of each color independently. It's actually superior to BW film in many ways. I believe Lightroom offers similar conversion features. Paul Anyone here have a good background in bw printing? Have you found a digital technique that can equal split printing? I haven't yet, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Split printing involves altering the times for separate high contrast and low contrast filter settings. That way I can burn in low contrast textures for n(1) time while doing high contrast for n(2) time for other purposes. This allows me to emphasize the details of texture while not over-exposing the print. My personal favorite technique. Paul the heretic Stenquist printed BW in the darkroom for thirty years. And yes, I've done split printing with different contrast filters. I've also used a wide variety of papers and chemicals, along with contrast control development of the film. No darkroom techniques can match the results achievable with digital BW. In digital processing, each tone can be rendered individually, allowing infinite adjustment of grays. Paul Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Hawaii, anyone
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/pho/2029424389.html Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
MBOI Tamron PKA2
someone here wants one, IIRC Larry or Darren - there is one in the German bay: 200545075350 but please note that it may go high, last one here sold for over € 62 =~US$100... =[ Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
Paul the heretic Stenquist printed BW in the darkroom for thirty years. And yes, I've done split printing with different contrast filters. I've also used a wide variety of papers and chemicals, along with contrast control development of the film. No darkroom techniques can match the results achievable with digital BW. In digital processing, each tone can be rendered individually, allowing infinite adjustment of grays. Paul Apologies for the moniker. Just a little turf thing. Thanks. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - November Clematis
Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - November Clematis
pretty impressive for ISO1600. your camera takes really good pictures =P thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/11/18 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?
My brother has been doing some research on these bottles we toasted from when we were in China this May. Seems that BaiJiu has a storied history in China. The description of this beverage as smelling/tasting like 'a cross between rubbing alcohol and diesel fuel' is not far off. Reading up on the Baijiu entry in Wikipedia, I'm trying to figure out what type/version is in the bottle in this photo: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/DSCF6800_large.html (Sorry this particular photo was taken with a Fuji, not my Pentax) I have figured out that the 5 characters underneath the big stylized label are: [blank] fragrance [blank] white liquor ..and I'm trying to fill in the blanks. Any help here? -Charles PS: our group of 6 travelers each got a full bottle to take home. Went over pretty well with most of the people here in the U.S. who gave it a shot. Fun times, fun times. -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - November Clematis
Thanks Ecke. And you're right, my camera does take good pictures. Seriously, I'm liking high ISO capability more than I thought I would. It gives me the luxury of a range cushion. With the K7, I would have probably shot this at ISO 400, f4, 1/250th. Since the lens was at 250 mm, it would have been iffy. Paul On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:18 PM, eckinator wrote: pretty impressive for ISO1600. your camera takes really good pictures =P thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/11/18 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - November Clematis
I want one. Everything I read about the K-5 makes me think perhaps I can stop eyeing a Nikon after all... Cheers Ecke 2010/11/18 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Thanks Ecke. And you're right, my camera does take good pictures. Seriously, I'm liking high ISO capability more than I thought I would. It gives me the luxury of a range cushion. With the K7, I would have probably shot this at ISO 400, f4, 1/250th. Since the lens was at 250 mm, it would have been iffy. Paul On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:18 PM, eckinator wrote: pretty impressive for ISO1600. your camera takes really good pictures =P thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/11/18 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: MBOI Tamron PKA2
Damn, didn't realize they were so expensive. Might have to part with mine since I'm not really using it anymore. -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: someone here wants one, IIRC Larry or Darren - there is one in the German bay: 200545075350 but please note that it may go high, last one here sold for over € 62 =~US$100... =[ Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
No, when doing BW conversion from colour I handle the filtration in post (Note I've been known to do this with both colour film and digital. Provia 100F in particular makes just lovely BW images). BW images online tend to be overly contrasty as that grabs attention (and I say that as someone who tends to like a lot of contrast in his BW). You can do very nice BW conversions with subtle tones but that sort of image really needs to be printed to look good, especially on consumer-grade monitors. -Adam On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I've been looking at a lot of digital bw work this week. When you digitroids do this, do you employ filters like we filmaniacs do? I'm thinking that this might be a good Saturday a.m. experiment. When I look at the work on Pentax photo gallery, the Bw efforts seem to share a common fault: 3 tones -- near-black, near-white, zone 6. There just is not the tonal variance. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Photoshop allows a large measure of filter effects in converting color to BW, using slider tools that show the preview of the filter's effects. Filter effects isn't the right expression, nor is converting color to BW when you're talking about digital capture to producing BW results. It's somewhat sloppy language that has somehow become the standard. When you make an exposure with a digital camera and save it as a raw file, you are capturing an [x,y] array of linear gamma luminance intensities organized in an RGB mosaic. The process of 'raw conversion' into something intelligible to our eyes involves an interpolation of those RGB values into chrominance values per pixel and gamma correction of the luminance intensities to suit the way our eyes and brain work. A more precise word than 'conversion' is 'rendering'. Rendering an image to monochrome values rather than RGB values, well, since what we appreciate as BW photography is a translation of color values into luminances without chroma, and BW films and colored filters help us to control that translation by separating or smashing together color/intensity values into luminance values, what you're doing with the sliders in Photoshop is directly analogous to putting filters on the lens when exposing BW film. It's not a filter effect: it's filtering, period. ;-) The biggest problem I have when shooting digital is blown highlights that I cannot burn and basically have to replace using cut a paste from an adjoining area. I've gotten to the point that I often have to use exposure compensation of -1 to avoid blown highlights. That's a matter of proper exposure for the digital capture medium, Jeffery, which requires a different approach than metering for film negatives. You should only very rarely have to use negative EV Compensation UNLESS your subject matter is mostly dark and the significant area where you need detail is mostly bright highlights. (I would say if I looked at exposure compensation values for all of my past couple years exposures that my properly exposed photos showed a 100:1 preponderance of +EV valued EV Compensation, not -EV values...) The old adage used for negative film was expose for the shadows, develop for the highlights, the notion being to get enough light energy onto the medium to activate the chemicals and record detail where you wanted it in the dark areas, and then control the gamma (or contrast curve) to keep from blocking up the highlights through development techniques. Digital capture sensors, as said above, always capture in a linear gamma. Their behavior at the limits of exposure are different from film media: the highlight limit is a hard stop when the photosite cannot record any additional light energy, the minimum exposure limit is a soft threshold where detail can no longer be distinguished from noise. Another factor: since the capture gamma is linear and has to be stretched and squeezed into a more curvaceous shape for our eyes and brain to interpret it correctly, it turns out that we need to stuff as many bits towards the high end of the range as we can (without hitting the saturation limit) so that we can stretch the values down into the low end without losing too much data along the way. So the goal in exposing properly for a digital sensor is to consider them as more similar to transparency film ... Avoid over-exposure on the highlights like the dickens and let the rest fall where it might ... but with a lot more control since we can push the rendering curve around with great freedom in the raw processing phase. I usually look at a scene with the idea of evaluating a) what's the overall reflectivity of the scene? and b) where are my Zone IX highlight values? A scene which has a lot of bright in it and a small contrast ratio to handle usually means adding exposure from an averaging meter's normal recommendation (most scenes, as it turns out). A scene which has big contrast and small areas of significant Zone IX detail that has to be preserved is one where I will pull down the EV compensation to keep from overexposing the details I want and let the rest fall into blackness (if it's outside the DR of the sensor). These latter are where the Spot metering pattern is helpful in evaluation, but don't let it do the whole job for you... it's pretty dumb in AE mode. Expose for the highlights, and render for the shadows is a simplification of the technique often called Expose to the Right, but it works. It presupposed raw capture, btw, because JPEGs don't have the range of adjustability required for processing high contrast scenes most of the time. But I'm beginning to ramble ... ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - November Clematis
Nice, Paul. Very much like the overall color and tone. Jack --- On Thu, 11/18/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - November Clematis To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 1:07 PM Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
On 18 November 2010 04:33, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: ... now its time to see barbie roll better... =) I just registered www.barbierollbetter.com and hope to turn it into a photo advice page both humorous and helpful. Let me know if you want wour own page linked and also if you want to contribute some content. Cheers Ecke I'd be happy to contribute--I need to feed my growing family. OF LENSES! —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT you've all seen ken rock well...
On 18/11/10, CheekyGeek, discombobulated, unleashed: Speaking of Barbie, this gives me a good excuse to point out one of the more BIZARRE Barbie Dolls I have seen yet. Frankly, I think it is for the birds. http://tinyurl.com/27x87kh great laugh ta! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO today's mushroom picture
On Nov 17, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: I like your mushroom picture very much, Larry. Always fun to get distracted with the camera. You know, I actually see two pictures in one here. It would be interesting to see a shot of the mushrooms on the left only, and a picture of the shrooms on the right only. Cheers, Christine Here's one of the mushrooms on the right: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5188336792/in/set-72157625295443523/ I used this as an excuse to experiment with two flashes. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5187741627/in/set-72157625295443523/ I tried to set up the 540 to slave off the studio flash, but couldn't remember/figure out how to do it without an optical slave shoe. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - November Clematis
Nicely composed, and detail. 1600 eh, Dave On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
I meant not *Sensitivity Priority* or any other. On 11/18/2010 4:39 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hawaii, anyone
I'll be there is January, but in Maui, not Honolulu (thank god). Dan On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/pho/2029424389.html Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Pigeon Point Light
Was reworking some old files and decided to get a new scan of this northern California light. Shot, obviously, on a Blue Bird day sometime in the early 80's(?) Just offered it to PPG. Jack Comments, of course, most welcome. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=551 I think: ME Super w/M 28 f/2.8or3.5(?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Why did we not come up with these.
http://www.petapixel.com/2009/11/13/21-awesome-t-shirts-for-photographers/ There is a few here i might get. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: They Eyes of a Cormorant
Many years ago I watched Japanese fishing with cormorants. They place a band around the bird's neck, so it cannot swallow a larger fish. The bird is also on a leash, and when it dives and catches a fish, it is brought back to the boat and made to disgorge its catch. The birds did not appear to be harmed, and it was quite interesting to watch. Dan On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:08 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/18 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Most, however, are born to dive under water . . . . Thus, I take it, their life is quite dive-rse... :-) Yes and they scub ap quite a bit of fish along the way -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Next time bring your friends
I think Mike Johnson should get this link http://en.video.canoe.tv/video/comedy/funny-animals/88690753001/brave-cat-vs-alligators/677500417001 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - November Clematis
paul stenquist wrote: Went out in the yard with the K-5 and DA*60-250 to take the new firmware for a spin. Saw this bloom on a Clematis vine, the leaves of which had already been damaged by a couple of hard frosts. A nasty wind was blowing it around, so I pumped up the ISO and shutter speed. f5.6 @ 1/500th, ISO 1600. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11969971size=lg oooh .. I got back in time to see this... beautiful! Btw... Paul... you owe me email :-) recipe? or did you not get mine? same note to Frank ann de-lurking -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
[...] Even so, Wish you were here has long been my favorite PInk Floyd Album, and possibly my favorite album. The Wall tells a great story, but there is almost an album's worth of great songs, and a little over an album's worth of good songs. I was a massive fan of theirs when I was a teenager. I had all of their albums, singles and solo work, including Syd Barrett's albums and a few bootlegs, but the last album I bought was Animals. After that I found them boring and have never listened to any of the later albums (although I know some of the tracks). I bought some of their albums again 2 or 3 years ago because I'd rediscovered them a bit through Youtube, but I don't listen to them much - maybe once or twice a year. It's an interesting experience because it demonstrates something to me about the deterioration in my hearing - there are notes that I can no longer hear, particularly in the upper registers, but I knew the tracks so well from my younger days that I know the notes are there. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Possibly stupid question re: K-x ISO range
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:39:29PM -0600, Walter Gilbert wrote: HI all, I've been meaning to ask this for some time now, but just keep forgetting to. Anyway, here goes: From day one of ownership, I've had the expanded sensitivity enabled on my K-x. I can force it manually all the way up to the 12800 top-end limit, but have yet to figure out a way to get it to shoot at 100 -- not Shutter Priority, or any other. The camera is clearly capable of shooting at that low a sensitivity, as it's indicated in the auto-ISO range (though I've yet to see a shot come out of it with that indicated in the EXIF data. So, what gives? I can't understand the rationale for allowing one to force the camera all the way to the top end of its range, where IQ suffers, but not at the bottom end, where one presumes it would benefit. Is there something I can do about this? I believe you've answered your own question. AFAIK, if you turn off expanded sensitivity you'll be able to use ISO 100. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Anyone here able to read/translate Chinese?
On 18 November 2010 21:19, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: My brother has been doing some research on these bottles we toasted from when we were in China this May. Seems that BaiJiu has a storied history in China. The description of this beverage as smelling/tasting like 'a cross between rubbing alcohol and diesel fuel' is not far off. Reading up on the Baijiu entry in Wikipedia, I'm trying to figure out what type/version is in the bottle in this photo: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/DSCF6800_large.html (Sorry this particular photo was taken with a Fuji, not my Pentax) I have figured out that the 5 characters underneath the big stylized label are: [blank] fragrance [blank] white liquor ..and I'm trying to fill in the blanks. Any help here? 浓香型白酒 The second blank 型 is type and, as I guess you saw from wikipedia, 白酒 is baijiu. i.e. 浓香 type baijiu Where 浓香 is something to do with fragrance like you said. I don't know the first character 浓, I can't even type it! Actually I don't even know Chinese so this information might be worth precisely what you just paid for it ;-) I have no idea if that'll make it through the PDML mail server, let alone be visible on your own screen. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT I;m such a friggin idiot
I was 16 or so when the album was released, although I'd seen them play it live before then. I often used to wonder if I'd already missed the starting gun. Still do, and I'm 53 now. These spikes are starting to get a bit uncomfortable. I first listened to that album only a couple of years ago. I'd watched the episode of the Classic Albums show. David Gilmour says that he wishes he could put a pair of headphones on and listen to it for the first time. So a while later I bought the CD and did exactly that. I don't listen to it very often... I really should put it on again sometime. That's an interesting experience. There are books I wish I could read again for the first time, and I enjoy it very much when young people read them for the first time and get a great thrill out of them. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: digital bw
I'll be the first to admit that the digital color stuff still gives me a hard time. I'm not resistant when it comes to modern digital technology (and converted from the typewriter to the word processor very quickly), but all of the parameters in digital photography can be a bit overwhelming after decades in the analog world. I've been leaning toward shooting digital as though it were color slide film, and that's why the -1 exposure comp. The lighting conditions were a bit extreme (shade with some blown out sunlit areas, and theater, with some blown out highlights on the actor's face). I'll try to get my lingo right. ;-) Old habits die hard. I also still think of my Pentax lenses as x mm equivalent, which I need to stop doing. A 25 1.4 isn't all that much like a 50 1.4, even if it is on an Olympus E-1. The field depth is astronomical. Jeffery On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Photoshop allows a large measure of filter effects in converting color to BW, using slider tools that show the preview of the filter's effects. Filter effects isn't the right expression, nor is converting color to BW when you're talking about digital capture to producing BW results. It's somewhat sloppy language that has somehow become the standard. When you make an exposure with a digital camera and save it as a raw file, you are capturing an [x,y] array of linear gamma luminance intensities organized in an RGB mosaic. The process of 'raw conversion' into something intelligible to our eyes involves an interpolation of those RGB values into chrominance values per pixel and gamma correction of the luminance intensities to suit the way our eyes and brain work. A more precise word than 'conversion' is 'rendering'. Rendering an image to monochrome values rather than RGB values, well, since what we appreciate as BW photography is a translation of color values into luminances without chroma, and BW films and colored filters help us to control that translation by separating or smashing together color/intensity values into luminance values, what you're doing with the sliders in Photoshop is directly analogous to putting filters on the lens when exposing BW film. It's not a filter effect: it's filtering, period. ;-) The biggest problem I have when shooting digital is blown highlights that I cannot burn and basically have to replace using cut a paste from an adjoining area. I've gotten to the point that I often have to use exposure compensation of -1 to avoid blown highlights. That's a matter of proper exposure for the digital capture medium, Jeffery, which requires a different approach than metering for film negatives. You should only very rarely have to use negative EV Compensation UNLESS your subject matter is mostly dark and the significant area where you need detail is mostly bright highlights. (I would say if I looked at exposure compensation values for all of my past couple years exposures that my properly exposed photos showed a 100:1 preponderance of +EV valued EV Compensation, not -EV values...) The old adage used for negative film was expose for the shadows, develop for the highlights, the notion being to get enough light energy onto the medium to activate the chemicals and record detail where you wanted it in the dark areas, and then control the gamma (or contrast curve) to keep from blocking up the highlights through development techniques. Digital capture sensors, as said above, always capture in a linear gamma. Their behavior at the limits of exposure are different from film media: the highlight limit is a hard stop when the photosite cannot record any additional light energy, the minimum exposure limit is a soft threshold where detail can no longer be distinguished from noise. Another factor: since the capture gamma is linear and has to be stretched and squeezed into a more curvaceous shape for our eyes and brain to interpret it correctly, it turns out that we need to stuff as many bits towards the high end of the range as we can (without hitting the saturation limit) so that we can stretch the values down into the low end without losing too much data along the way. So the goal in exposing properly for a digital sensor is to consider them as more similar to transparency film ... Avoid over-exposure on the highlights like the dickens and let the rest fall where it might ... but with a lot more control since we can push the rendering curve around with great freedom in the raw processing phase. I usually look at a scene with the idea of evaluating a) what's the overall reflectivity of the scene? and b) where are my Zone IX highlight values? A scene which has a lot of bright in it and a small contrast ratio to handle usually means adding exposure from an averaging meter's normal recommendation (most scenes, as it turns out). A scene
