Re: PESO: How hot IS it?

2011-07-23 Thread David Mann
On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:53 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 When the Aussies start complaining about it being 40º C with 90% Humidity we 
 can all laugh at them, (just don't mention the foot of snow).
 
 Yea, yea, Mann's in New Zealand, but I don't think it gets ./that/ hot there.

Yeah, hottest I've encountered here is 38 and when it gets hot in my part of 
the country it's usually about 30% humidity.

I think our maximum summer temperature is normally in the low 30s so 38 was 
pretty exceptional.  We were heading for another stupidly hot day early this 
year but a storm came through.

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Re: I'm ok

2011-07-23 Thread David Mann
On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 I know the list cares. so just a quick message to let you know that I'm ok.
 Can't speak for the rest og the norwegians...
 So please chime in folks.

Good to hear you're ok.  The only thing worse than a natural disaster is a 
man-made one.

Cheers,
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Re: I'm ok and Re: Oslo Blast

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
Those of you in Norway are surely in shock. I just watched the 9 am Norway time 
news conference by the police. The number of dead on Utoya island was raised to 
84. In downtown Oslo it is still 7 deceased. They also warned that the 
investigation would take months. They state the horrific crimes are 
attributable to the one man, a local freemason who has never been on the police 
radar. Central Oslo is coming under the control of the military, to allow the 
police to investigate without interruption and to prevent looting.

They are still searching the waters around Utoya, as many tried to escape by 
swimming away, knowing  there was no way they could reach land elsewhere. One 
man swam away without removing his clothes or shoes first. He was forced to 
turn back and go ashore before he sank and drowned. The gunman walked up to him 
and shot him. But he survived and was interviewed. His timeline was reported as 
at least one hour before the police arrived, and another hour until the 
shooting stopped when the gunman was tracked down and arrested by a Delta Force 
team. They recovered a machine gun they declined to identify. AK-47 certainly 
comes to mind.

Part of the problem at the moment is that they have no positive idea of the 
number of people that were on Utoya to begin with.

Our thoughts and prayers are with all of Norway this day.

Joseph McAllister
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 20:32 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Jostein and Tim,
 I'm sad to hear the death toll in your incidents is at least 87,
 7 from the bombing and another 80 teenagers on the island.
 What a sick wacko it takes to do this.
 You have my condolences.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
 I've tried a couple of times to post a chirp to the list, but my only
 device is an android phone, and I suspect it smears my mails full of
 html coding nok matter what i try.
 
 Just to let you know, my family and I are all ok.
 
 I would also appreciate it if everyone could refrain from pointing at
 international terrorism for a couple of days at least. Nothing points
 in that direction at the moment. He may not be aware of the second
 incident here today. A shooting desperado with a machine gun and
 dressed as a policeman went bananas in a youth camp on a small island.
 Police strongly suspects the two incidents are connected. The
 desperado, however, is 190 cm tall, of athletic build and with light
 blonde hair and nordic appearance. Not your typical islamic extremist,
 nor any self-exploding apparition from outer space as Darren seems to
 imagine.
 
 We will know more in a couple of hours, or maybe in a couple of days.
 The desperado has been detained alive.
 
 Thanks all of you, for your concern for us up here in the Frostpit.
 
 Best,
 Jostein










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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread Steffen Zahn
In Germany it is raining for several days.

Steffen Zahn


Am 23.07.2011 um 04:28 schrieb Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

 Mean Wheatfield!
 
 boo hoo
 
 ann
 
 On 7/22/2011 21:55, William Robb wrote:
 17ºC at the moment.
 
 b
 
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2011 00:57, Larry Colen wrote:

We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and
there are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the
pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty
rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the
two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it
the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced
like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in 
Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...


Boris


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Re: I'm ok

2011-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/22/2011 18:24, Tim Øsleby wrote:

I know the list cares. so just a quick message to let you know that I'm ok.
Can't speak for the rest og the norwegians...
So please chime in folks.

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Good to know, Tim. It looks horrible from here...

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Re: Oslo blast

2011-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/22/2011 22:12, AlunFoto wrote:

Thanks all of you, for your concern for us up here in the Frostpit.


Good to know...

Heart goes out to the families of those who lost their relatives today...

I should also say that it will bring no fruit to try to talk about why 
and who and so on. I am certain that Norway has competent people that 
will uncover the truth. As of this moment, it would be mostly 
speculation and playing by mass media tune, which is well known these 
days...


Let us just pray that the death tall won't be any higher than it is 
known to be now.


Boris


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Re: PESO Natalie

2011-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-07-22 3:07 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com  wrote:

Natalie was roped-in by her younger sister Iryna to assist with reflectors
and such while we did Iryna's portrait, but we couldn't resist shooting
Natalie too ...

Flickr Fancy: http://goo.gl/U9pWl
Flickr plain: http://goo.gl/0obNL

K20D, DA* 50-135 @ 135mm, f/2.8, 1/250th, ISO 200.
40 white reflector camera-rt.  Lightroom PP.

Wow.  She's beautiful and you did a great job of capturing that!

cheers,
frank


Thank you very much, Frank.

-bmw

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Re: K5 quieter than a Leica

2011-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 How does the M6 sound when you advance the film?  -T

Very quiet.
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Re: I'm ok and Re: Oslo Blast

2011-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund

Joseph McAllister wrote:

Those of you in Norway are surely in shock. I just watched the 9 am Norway time 
news conference by the police. The number of dead on Utoya island was raised to 
84. In downtown Oslo it is still 7 deceased.

Yes, it's pretty extreme ;-(

They also warned that the investigation would take months. They state the 
horrific crimes are attributable to the one man, a local freemason who has 
never been on the police radar. Central Oslo is coming under the control of the 
military, to allow the police to investigate without interruption and to 
prevent looting.
  
I haven't been there, but the notion that the military will control 
Central Oslo in general, is perhaps a bit of an exaggeration. I think we 
are talking about a limited area with is serious destruction of 
buildings, where entering would might represent a bit of a hazard. This 
area is rather central, but not quite where you would tend to find most 
people shopping/walking around in the city or having a night out.

They are still searching the waters around Utoya, as many tried to escape by swimming 
away, knowing  there was no way they could reach land elsewhere. One man swam away 
without removing his clothes or shoes first. He was forced to turn back and go ashore 
before he sank and drowned. The gunman walked up to him and shot him. But he survived and 
was interviewed. His timeline was reported as at least one hour before the police 
arrived, and another hour until the shooting stopped when the gunman was tracked down and 
arrested by a Delta Force team. They recovered a machine gun they declined to 
identify. AK-47 certainly comes to mind.
  
My theory is a HK MP-5 (widely used  by the police and armed forces), 
but it really makes little difference.

Part of the problem at the moment is that they have no positive idea of the 
number of people that were on Utoya to begin with.
  
Yes, that's a bit of a problem. You'd think the people would have to be 
registered somehow, but I suppose it was the kind of event where people 
come and go. I know someone who left about and hour before the shooting 
started because she didn't feel well. That minor illness must truly be a 
blessing in disguise.


- Toralf

Our thoughts and prayers are with all of Norway this day.

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

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On Jul 22, 2011, at 20:32 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

  

Jostein and Tim,
I'm sad to hear the death toll in your incidents is at least 87,
7 from the bombing and another 80 teenagers on the island.
What a sick wacko it takes to do this.
You have my condolences.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi folks,
I've tried a couple of times to post a chirp to the list, but my only
device is an android phone, and I suspect it smears my mails full of
html coding nok matter what i try.

Just to let you know, my family and I are all ok.

I would also appreciate it if everyone could refrain from pointing at
international terrorism for a couple of days at least. Nothing points
in that direction at the moment. He may not be aware of the second
incident here today. A shooting desperado with a machine gun and
dressed as a policeman went bananas in a youth camp on a small island.
Police strongly suspects the two incidents are connected. The
desperado, however, is 190 cm tall, of athletic build and with light
blonde hair and nordic appearance. Not your typical islamic extremist,
nor any self-exploding apparition from outer space as Darren seems to
imagine.

We will know more in a couple of hours, or maybe in a couple of days.
The desperado has been detained alive.

Thanks all of you, for your concern for us up here in the Frostpit.

Best,
Jostein
  











  



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Re: I'm ok

2011-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund

Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/22/2011 17:00, Toralf Lund wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Well CNN says the shooting at the youth camp about 30 minutes away was
possibly connected to the one in the central city...

While what you say is true, (re media can often be too quick) what's
the definition of terrorism? How can this be anything else no matter
what/who the source.

True, it's a question of definitions. It's definitely terrorism in one
sense, but not necessarily associated with a terrorist organization
(which is what the media often seem to imply), or even intended to cause
fear as a way of reaching a certain political goal (which some would say
must be a part of such a terrible act for it to become terrorism.)

- Toralf

OK - I was just thinking of it as general terror, but one does tend to 
think of it as being perpetrated by someone with an agenda -

That could be true of an individual as well as a group  No matter
who the perp is or perps are or who they are in the political spectrum,
it does seem that terrorism describes the bombing at least.
Yes. And the person now under arrest, is also being charged under a 
terrorism section in a law about crimes to the society in general 
(or whatever.)


- T


ann






ann


On 7/22/2011 14:50, Toralf Lund wrote:

Darren Addy wrote:

We tend to assume terrorist immediately these days, until proven
otherwise, don't we?
I mean... it could have been a small meteorite/asteroid impact now,
couldn't it?
Or maybe Mr. Creosote just had a bit too much for lunch again?

:-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPkOv0-u6A0

Apologies in advance...

Well, I don't mind...

I completely agree that people, not to mention media, are far too 
quick

to talk about terrorism when something like this happens. Last time
there was a bomb explosion in Oslo I believe a rather young guy 
working
on his own turned out to be behind it. (Yes it's happened before - 
on a
smaller scale, but I think someone got killed. This was many years 
ago,

though...)

I wasn't in Oslo today, either, by the way...

- Toralf

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska














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Re: PESO - Hot Tub

2011-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
Cute. Now i know what to do with those extra buckets i have, although
1 per cheeks might not work out that great

Dave

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 Come and see the new hot tub on the patio, said Gracie. A droid2 phone pic.

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Re: PESO - Florid Fred

2011-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
Good one

Dave

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 Everyone who knows Fred says that while he's a bit flamboyant, his florid 
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Re: I'm ok

2011-07-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
It is good to know that alle members are safe.

For the moment nobody knows what really has happened. As it seem, it
was a norwegian extremist (or, more likly, extreists) who did the
deeds.
A inner enemi is IMO even more frightening. Whatever has happened,
I'm afraid we will see a less open society after this.

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Lightroom 1.4.1 upgrade (catalog) to version 3 ?

2011-07-23 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi all,

I have been using Lightroom version 1 for several years now, 
and consider upgrading for the new features in verion 3.
(like perspective correction and localized edits)


However, I am still on OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger) so I will have to
upgrade that to 10.6 (Snow Leopard) first, and then perhaps
even to the latest (Lion) that was released a few days ago ...

What I could not find so far, is if LR 3 will convert a version-1 
catalog to the current level. There is lot of info about converting
2 to 3, and older info about 1 to 2.

Anyone know for sure if direct upgrading from 1.4.1 to 3.x will work well ?

TIA, JvW

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Re: Oslo blast

2011-07-23 Thread Bong Manayon
Sorry to hear the events in your country; am also chasing down other
friends there (have not heard from some yet).  Keep safe.

Bong

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:12 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
 I've tried a couple of times to post a chirp to the list, but my only
 device is an android phone, and I suspect it smears my mails full of
 html coding nok matter what i try.

 Just to let you know, my family and I are all ok.

 I would also appreciate it if everyone could refrain from pointing at
 international terrorism for a couple of days at least. Nothing points
 in that direction at the moment. He may not be aware of the second
 incident here today. A shooting desperado with a machine gun and
 dressed as a policeman went bananas in a youth camp on a small island.
 Police strongly suspects the two incidents are connected. The
 desperado, however, is 190 cm tall, of athletic build and with light
 blonde hair and nordic appearance. Not your typical islamic extremist,
 nor any self-exploding apparition from outer space as Darren seems to
 imagine.

 We will know more in a couple of hours, or maybe in a couple of days.
 The desperado has been detained alive.

 Thanks all of you, for your concern for us up here in the Frostpit.

 Best,
 Jostein



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Re: I'm ok

2011-07-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sorry to hear of the disaster in your country. Nothing good can ever come of 
such acts, but I hope the longterm effect is not severe.
Best,
Paul


On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 It is good to know that alle members are safe.
 
 For the moment nobody knows what really has happened. As it seem, it
 was a norwegian extremist (or, more likly, extreists) who did the
 deeds.
 A inner enemi is IMO even more frightening. Whatever has happened,
 I'm afraid we will see a less open society after this.
 
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 My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/
 
 
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Re: I'm ok and Re: Oslo Blast

2011-07-23 Thread Darren Addy
Yes, the news is truly horrific and the whole world's heart goes out
to those who lost their lives or were injured and their families and
friends.

Darren Addy
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Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a 
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the 
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that little 
chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three times -- 
then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and

I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1 
Hi speed card/reader writer.


The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it 
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.


The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of 
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto

the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card reader 
come back to life.  I put another CF card into it and still no go...

I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas?  which is to say, help!

ann

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread John

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?  Do you have a friend with a 
card slot on a laptop in their computer?  It sounds as though the reader 
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the 
reader, then the card can be reformatted.  If you are looking for a 
trial horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome 
to if that would help


John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a 
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the 
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that 
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three 
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and

I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1 
Hi speed card/reader writer.


The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it 
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.


The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of 
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto

the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card 
reader come back to life.  I put another CF card into it and still no 
go...

I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas?  which is to say, help!

ann




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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a 
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot

off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a 
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it

recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant GB!)

ann




 Do you have a friend with a

card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the reader
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome to if
that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and
I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1
Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas? which is to say, help!

ann






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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Igor Roshchin

Just in case some people didn't catch the reference,
it was an inverted dialog from the Young Frankenstein movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaPZZJVDx6Y#t=53s

Bong, - this hopefully explains who they are.

Cheers,

Igor

PS. and the complicated combination of 4 letters in my last name
(which stands for just 1 letter in Russian) is pronounced as follows:
sh - as in cash
ch - as in Charlie
These two sounds are pronounced together. That added ch makes
the sh sound softer than the first sound in the British (not American
- i.e. not sk) pronunciation of the word schedule 




 From s...@trantor.komkon.org Wed Jul 20 18:22:23 2011
 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:22:08 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
 To: PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?



 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)

 Igor


 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:

  We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are 
  a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.


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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, which 
you did already, by using the *ist-D.  If it were recoverable by other 
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the 
card, and read it normally  or asked if you wanted to format it, or 
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes).  CF cards 
have their own controller much like any other memory device.  If that's 
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very expensive.


One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to plug 
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that accesses USB 
devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove 
them).  If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB 
drives and the drive letter assigned to them.  If you see the Vivitar 
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is 
good.


CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a 
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot

off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a 
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it

recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant GB!)

ann




 Do you have a friend with a

card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the reader
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome to if
that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and
I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1
Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas? which is to say, help!

ann









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PESO - Base Hit

2011-07-23 Thread frank theriault
This is a re-do of the first pic of my recent Boys of Summer GESO:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/boys-of-summer.html

I really liked that first pic, but there was something just not
right.  After lots of hemmming and hawing, I decided to drop the
spectator on the left.  I'd first left him in there as his eyes seemed
to be following the hit baseball into the outfield.  But the more I
thought about it, I realized that the eyes of the young hitter (and
that wonderful expression on his face just after he smacked the line
drive) were all I needed - the spectator was just a distraction.  By
cropping him out, it brings the three at the plate (especially the
hitter) into focus.

At least I think so.  What think you?

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/base-hit.html

Your comments and suggestions will be welcome.  Hope you enjoy.

cheers,
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test

2011-07-23 Thread Christine Aguila
test

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Re: test

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling

Didn't get here.

On 7/23/2011 12:09 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

test




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Re: test

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Gottcha!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: test

2011-07-23 Thread Christine Aguila
ok! great!  Cheers, Christine 


On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Gottcha!
 
 Dan Matyola
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 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
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RE: GESO - The Boys of Summer

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 A few photos from a Little League game from the other night:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/boys-of-summer.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Good stuff!

Boys, eh? I went to see Tree of Life a few days ago. Pretentious bollocks,
but very atmospheric the boys growing up stuff. Norman Rockwell meets
Stanley Kubrick and they share a spliff.

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RE: Peso - sudden rain

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-
 2011/15389206_z3saz/1/1394942277_pNK257Z/Large
 

that's really nice - very atmospheric. I'll post a rain shot later.

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RE: PESO 2011 - 112 - GDG

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 Another new one in the Communicating series:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5962836202/in/photostream/lightbo
 x/
 or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5962836202/
 
 
 It's a three exposure, panorama composite.
 
 thanks for looking, comments always appreciated.
 
 Godfrey

that's very effective.

B


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RE: K5 quieter than a Leica

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Paul Stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
  At lest according to this guy's testing:
  http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103766
 
 Someone at the camera shop happened to be there with a K5 when I was
 there with the Olympus E-1 and they had an M6 and an M8 on display. So
 I got to hear all three next to one another.
[...]
 
 But they're all very quiet cameras, the E-1 and K5 particularly so for
 being SLRs.
 --
 Godfrey
   godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

I don't have the most reliable ears, having had mastoidectomies in both
ears, and everything scooped out and eardrums patched up on various
occasions, but even I can tell that the E-1 is quieter than the M8 - the M8
shutter sounds like a guillotine falling sometimes.. Not at all like the old
shutter on the film bodies.

B


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Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread John Sessoms
We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over 
until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.


I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is 
done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.


Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.


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Re: PESO: How hot IS it?

2011-07-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Joseph McAllister

Don't have to go that far south to get good weather. In Everett WA,
we were supposed to fly up to 73?F today, but it barely got to 67?F.
Maybe tomorrow.

They said on the evening news wednesday that Everett is the only
large city in the US that has yet to see 75?F this year.

They keep promising ? Saturday we should see sunny skies and highs
in the mid to upper 70s to around 80! Sunday will start mostly sunny
but we will see some high clouds drifting in during the afternoon
signaling a change in the weather. Sunday's highs should be in the
70s and low 80s!

I'm not holding my breath for it.


Don't sweat it. You've got all of August still to go.


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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Congratulations John, it's a big accomplishment, especially as an adult!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over
 until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.

 I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is
 done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.

 Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.


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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bulent Celasun
 
 Cekoslovakyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?
 
 (Or, Makedonyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?).
 

that's easy for you to say.

What about Australazyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent news and big congrats!  Have a great celebration, John!  You deserve 
it!  Very happy for you!  Big cheers, Christine




On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:53 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over 
 until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.
 
 I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is 
 done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.
 
 Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.
 
 
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RE: Distance [was Re: V. Maier exhibition in London]

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
  How do we alter the human condition for the better if we hide the
 parts of the condition that can be improved on from the light of day?
 
  William Robb
 
 Has the human condition improved since the invention of photography or
 worsened? Not making a correlation at all. Just food for thought.

photography  photographers have no more (or less) obligation to change the
world than any other activity or practitioners.

In the context of art, which is where the discussion began, people can
photograph anything they want, and they don't have to justify it except by
the resulting work itself (it should be good, in some way which I can't
define).

In the context of journalism, or documentary or reportage or whatever, it
should be news. That's all. 

In the context of travel photography it should tell you something about the
place. I had an argument in India with a Brahmin who tried to stop me
photographing beggars outside the Jaganarth temple in Puri, and wanted me to
photograph only the beautiful parts of India. Bloody idiot.

In the context of advocacy or campaigning, it should be effective.

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Re: I'm ok and Re: Oslo Blast

2011-07-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Toralf Lund

Joseph McAllister wrote:




They are still searching the waters around Utoya, as many tried to
escape by swimming away, knowing  there was no way they could reach
land elsewhere. One man swam away without removing his clothes or
shoes first. He was forced to turn back and go ashore before he
sank and drowned. The gunman walked up to him and shot him. But he
survived and was interviewed. His timeline was reported as at least
one hour before the police arrived, and another hour until the
shooting stopped when the gunman was tracked down and arrested by a
Delta Force team. They recovered a machine gun they declined to
identify. AK-47 certainly comes to mind.


My theory is a HK MP-5 (widely used  by the police and armed
forces), but it really makes little difference.


CNN is reporting the suspect is a member of the Oslo pistol club and has 
three weapons registered under his name - Glock pistol, a rifle and a 
shotgun.




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Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele


So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that little
chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three times --
then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and
I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1
Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card reader
come back to life.  I put another CF card into it and still no go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas?  which is to say, help!


The biggest problems I've seen with CF cards is bent pins on the card 
readers. I have (rarely) seen pins from the reader break off and stick 
in the card.


Look at the card itself to see if any of the pin holes are blocked up.

Look into the card reader to see if any of the pins are bent over.


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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Congrats!  You should get some points for degree of difficulty.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Excellent news and big congrats!  Have a great celebration, John!  You 
 deserve it!  Very happy for you!  Big cheers, Christine




 On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:53 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over 
 until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.

 I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is 
 done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.

 Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.


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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over
until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.

I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is
done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.

Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.

Congrats John.

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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling

Congratulations.

On 7/23/2011 12:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially 
over until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next 
week.


I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work 
is done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.


Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school 
diploma.



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OT PESO - Roses (NSFW)

2011-07-23 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Another bodypaint shot:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/5897865578

Direct link

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5036/5897865578_5b15947537_o.jpg

Cheers,

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PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
my new puppy:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: How hot IS it?

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 23, 2011, at 09:55 , John Sessoms wrote:

 They keep promising ? Saturday we should see sunny skies and highs
 in the mid to upper 70s to around 80! Sunday will start mostly sunny
 but we will see some high clouds drifting in during the afternoon
 signaling a change in the weather. Sunday's highs should be in the
 70s and low 80s!
 
 I'm not holding my breath for it.
 
 Don't sweat it. You've got all of August still to go.


Can't wait!

At noon it's already up to 63.7 F.

I see your system can't handle 'alt-shift-8' very well, so I'll drop it.   :-) 


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 23, 2011, at 02:16 , Boris Liberman wrote:

 It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in 
 Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...
 
 Boris

Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't…


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Re: PESO - Base Hit

2011-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
Like it much better, Frank. One reason is the enlarged facial/eye expression of 
the hitter. Did notice that the catcher is looking higher, but that's likely 
due to his not having yet found the ball.
Never without MY idea, I down loaded it and cropped even more off the right 
side. I cropped the ump to just about mid arm at his elbow, thus leaving his 
arm in one continuous piece. I like the composition a bit better that way.

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/23/11, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Base Hit
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 8:58 AM
 This is a re-do of the first pic of
 my recent Boys of Summer GESO:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/boys-of-summer.html
 
 I really liked that first pic, but there was something just
 not
 right.  After lots of hemmming and hawing, I decided
 to drop the
 spectator on the left.  I'd first left him in there as
 his eyes seemed
 to be following the hit baseball into the outfield. 
 But the more I
 thought about it, I realized that the eyes of the young
 hitter (and
 that wonderful expression on his face just after he smacked
 the line
 drive) were all I needed - the spectator was just a
 distraction.  By
 cropping him out, it brings the three at the plate
 (especially the
 hitter) into focus.
 
 At least I think so.  What think you?
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/base-hit.html
 
 Your comments and suggestions will be welcome.  Hope
 you enjoy.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bulent Celasun
Bob,

Your version is as beautiful as the the earlier ones ;)

And, there are no limits to examples:

...kararlastirilamayabilineceginden...
...since it could not certainly be decided upon...

There are many other languages (mostly close or far relatives) that
are essentially similar in their usage of suffixes in this fashion.
Finnish, Hungarian, Korean and even Japanese comes to mind...
These are all regarded by most scholars as descending from the same
roots as Turkish.

Bulent
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2011/7/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bulent Celasun

 Cekoslovakyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

 (Or, Makedonyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?).


 that's easy for you to say.

 What about Australazyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

 B


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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister
 
 Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't.
 

Yes - Russian...

B


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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
He gonna be BIG! Cute name.

Jack

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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 11:54 AM
 my new puppy:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094
 
 Dan Matyola
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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 
 Your version is as beautiful as the the earlier ones ;)
 
 And, there are no limits to examples:
 
 ...kararlastirilamayabilineceginden...
 ...since it could not certainly be decided upon...
 
 There are many other languages (mostly close or far relatives) that
 are essentially similar in their usage of suffixes in this fashion.
 Finnish, Hungarian, Korean and even Japanese comes to mind...
 These are all regarded by most scholars as descending from the same
 roots as Turkish.
 
 Bulent

a great many languages of different families are more or less agglutinative.
English has its gluey moments; German more so. It's part of the great cycle
of language evolution.

B


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Wide angle lens question

2011-07-23 Thread Tony Cogan

Hello

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I'm looking to replace 2 lenses with 1, for simplicity.  I'm doing a 
lot of shooting at construction projects and I don't like to change 
lenses with lots of sawdust, dirt, etc. flying around.


I am currently using a Pentax FA28-70 f4 and a Sigma 17-35 F2.8.  I 
would like to get a single lens that covers this same range; 
17-70-ish.  I'd like something a bit better than the consumer-grade 
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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2011-07-23 10:53 , John Sessoms wrote:

We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over until
Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.

I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is done.
I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.

Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.


congratulations; i'm a college dropout myself, so it's a bit of an inspiration

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Re: Lightroom 1.4.1 upgrade (catalog) to version 3 ?

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Jan van Wijk wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have been using Lightroom version 1 for several years now, 
 and consider upgrading for the new features in verion 3.
 (like perspective correction and localized edits)
 
 
 However, I am still on OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger) so I will have to
 upgrade that to 10.6 (Snow Leopard) first, and then perhaps
 even to the latest (Lion) that was released a few days ago ...
 
 What I could not find so far, is if LR 3 will convert a version-1 
 catalog to the current level. There is lot of info about converting
 2 to 3, and older info about 1 to 2.
 
 Anyone know for sure if direct upgrading from 1.4.1 to 3.x will work well ?

I'm not sure, but I believe so.  

I will vouch that LR 3 is a huge improvement over LR1.
 
 TIA, JvW
 
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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, steve harley wrote:

 On 2011-07-22 16:31 , Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 103 degrees F here :-(
 and 82 in my apartment even though the Ac is chruning away _ I havent gone 
 out
 at all
 
 (not to gloat, but) it hit 98 here in Denver, yet the monsoon has lifted for 
 a couple of days and with only 13% relative humidity the heat index is a 
 negative adjustment and it's no sweat for my small swamp cooler to keep the 
 house in the mid-70s
 
 there's a huge music festival (350 artists) down the block all weekend so 
 we'll be out in the heat, drinking lots of water plus some beer; last year i 
 tried to photograph mostly bicycles but wasn't thrilled with my results, not 
 sure what i'll focus on this time

Why bother focusing?


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:27 , Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister
 
 Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't.
 
 
 Yes - Russian...

Good one, Bob.  ROTFLMAO


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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread David Savage
 On 2011-07-22 16:31 , Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 103 degrees F here :-(
 and 82 in my apartment even though the Ac is chruning away _ I havent gone 
 out
 at all

Here we call that summer

DS

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Re: Wide angle lens question

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
There are two that I know of that fit that bill.  The Pentax DA 17-70mm 
f4.0 (reviewed at photozone 
http://www.photozone.de/pentax/408-pentax_1770_4 ), and the Sigma 
17-70mm f2.8~4.5, (also reviewed at photozone 
http://www.photozone.de/pentax/147-sigma-af-17-70mm-f28-45-dc-pentax-k-review--test-report).  
I've been looking for a good price on one for some time.  The Pentax is 
about $490.00 at BH Photo and the Sigma for K mount is about twenty 
dollars less at Adorama.  It's probably best if you read the reviews 
yourself.  I know someone on the list has used the Pentax so they'll 
probably chime in.


On 7/23/2011 3:30 PM, Tony Cogan wrote:

Hello

I've re-subscribed here after a couple of years away.  I would 
appreciate any input from you.


I'm looking to replace 2 lenses with 1, for simplicity.  I'm doing a 
lot of shooting at construction projects and I don't like to change 
lenses with lots of sawdust, dirt, etc. flying around.


I am currently using a Pentax FA28-70 f4 and a Sigma 17-35 F2.8.  I 
would like to get a single lens that covers this same range; 
17-70-ish.  I'd like something a bit better than the consumer-grade 
and hopefully in the $300 to $400 range.  What suggestions can you 
give me?


Many thanks,
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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
Good job! You can now demand a raise!

On Jul 23, 2011, at 09:53 , John Sessoms wrote:

 We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over 
 until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.
 
 I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is 
 done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.
 
 Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.

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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Congratulations! That's quite an achievement. It's tough enough for the young, 
but going back to school in later life is a rough go. Well done!
Paul

On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over 
 until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.
 
 I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is 
 done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.
 
 Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.
 
 
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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2011-07-23 13:35 , Larry Colen wrote:


On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, steve harley wrote:

there's a huge music festival (350 artists) down the block all weekend so we'll 
be out in the heat, drinking lots of water plus some beer; last year i tried to 
photograph mostly bicycles but wasn't thrilled with my results, not sure what 
i'll focus on this time


Why bother focusing?


good question; i'll shoot some other stuff (already have), but when i am 
overstimulated my skill at choosing shots tends to weaken, so a focus helps; 
i'm letting it go for now and hoping some kind of theme emerges before the end


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Wide angle lens question

2011-07-23 Thread Tony Cogan
(It was suggested to me to re-post this to be sure it gets a fresh 
subject line, so I am re-posting the following:)


Hello

I've re-subscribed here after a couple of years away. I would 
appreciate any input from you.


I'm looking to replace 2 lenses with 1, for simplicity. I'm doing a 
lot of shooting at construction projects and I don't like to change 
lenses with lots of sawdust, dirt, etc. flying around.


I am currently using a Pentax FA28-70 f4 and a Sigma 17-35 F2.8. I 
would like to get a single lens that covers this same range; 
17-70-ish. I'd like something a bit better than the consumer-grade 
and hopefully in the $300 to $400 range. What suggestions can you give me?


Many thanks,
Tony


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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote:

We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over 
until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.

I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is 
done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.

Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school diploma.

Congratulations John!
You're a couple of months behind Doug Brewer as far as absolute date
goes, but I believe he's a bit older than 44 so you've got him there
;-)
 
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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread David Savage
On 24 July 2011 04:14, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 On 2011-07-23 13:35 , Larry Colen wrote:

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, steve harley wrote:

 there's a huge music festival (350 artists) down the block all weekend so
 we'll be out in the heat, drinking lots of water plus some beer; last year i
 tried to photograph mostly bicycles but wasn't thrilled with my results, not
 sure what i'll focus on this time

 Why bother focusing?

 good question; i'll shoot some other stuff (already have), but when i am
 overstimulated my skill at choosing shots tends to weaken, so a focus helps;
 i'm letting it go for now and hoping some kind of theme emerges before the
 end

The thing with shooting events is, the camera has a habit of removing
you from the moment.

I recommend you just enjoy the music...after that the shots will
present them self.

DS

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Looks like it is the USB port... computer doesnt seem to know it is there.

It should be drive F  but when I plug either the card reader or my canon 
P  S into it , the drive doesn't even come up...


The only drives that come up are C, D , E  -  E is the big old external 
drive...


when things are working with the Vivitar plugged in,  Adobe downloader 
recognizes F,G,G,H...etc


After I went away and came back and rebooted and plugged in the creader 
with a good CF card in it, I got that little chime sound that you get 
when things are working... however, when I launched the downloader

the stuff at that port didn't show up on the list of choices.

Same thing when I just tried to use it for downloading directly from my
point and shoot... that didnt work either.

conclusion - it isn't the card reader thats mucked up ...
The pins look fine and it didnt take much effort to slip a card in..

The 2.0 does appear to be cooked, however - but that isn't a biggy at 
all - the files that really matter that were one it are on the computer.


Also - the ACDsee device detector did detect the card reader...

Further, I tried my old 80 GB external drive there and nothing happened.

IDeas??? Anyone??

ann



On 7/23/2011 11:51, P. J. Alling wrote:

The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, which
you did already, by using the *ist-D. If it were recoverable by other
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the
card, and read it normally or asked if you wanted to format it, or
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes). CF cards
have their own controller much like any other memory device. If that's
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very expensive.

One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to plug
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that accesses USB
devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove
them). If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB
drives and the drive letter assigned to them. If you see the Vivitar
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is
good.

CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot
off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it
recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant GB!)

ann




Do you have a friend with a

card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the reader
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome to if
that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and
I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1
Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas? which is to say, help!

ann











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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Sweet!
ann

On 7/23/2011 14:54, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

my new puppy:

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Re: Graduation Day!

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Congrats!

ann

On 7/23/2011 12:53, John Sessoms wrote:

We had our graduation exercise today. The semester isn't officially over
until Wednesday, so I guess they'll mail my degree some time next week.

I still have my business class Monday  Wednesday, but all of my work is
done. I'm just waiting to turn the final assignment in on Monday.

Took 44 years, but I will finally have more than just a high school
diploma.


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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:30 PM, David Savage wrote:

 On 24 July 2011 04:14, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 On 2011-07-23 13:35 , Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:20 PM, steve harley wrote:
 
 there's a huge music festival (350 artists) down the block all weekend so
 we'll be out in the heat, drinking lots of water plus some beer; last year 
 i
 tried to photograph mostly bicycles but wasn't thrilled with my results, 
 not
 sure what i'll focus on this time
 
 Why bother focusing?
 
 good question; i'll shoot some other stuff (already have), but when i am
 overstimulated my skill at choosing shots tends to weaken, so a focus helps;
 i'm letting it go for now and hoping some kind of theme emerges before the
 end
 
 The thing with shooting events is, the camera has a habit of removing
 you from the moment.

Last weekend I was the photographer at a dance workshop.  The weekend before at 
an aikido seminar.  I found that often when I'd photograph the instructor 
showing the technique, I'd be aware of what he was showing, and even what he 
was saying. But by the time I had put the camera down and went to practice, I 
had forgotten entirely what we were working on.  It was as if doing the 
photography didn't leave room for anything else in my brain.

 
 I recommend you just enjoy the music...after that the shots will
 present them self.
 
 DS

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Re: PESO - Base Hit

2011-07-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Like it much better, Frank. One reason is the enlarged facial/eye expression 
 of the hitter. Did notice that the catcher is looking higher, but that's 
 likely due to his not having yet found the ball.
 Never without MY idea, I down loaded it and cropped even more off the right 
 side. I cropped the ump to just about mid arm at his elbow, thus leaving his 
 arm in one continuous piece. I like the composition a bit better that way.

Thanks, Jack.  I'd love to see your crop, if you don't mind sending it to me.

;-)

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem p.s.

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele


The  the 1terra drive is in the E port... the system recognizes that but 
I really dont want to remove it to double check that the card reader is 
fine as the 1t is where all the photos go.  Not to mention the backups


ann


On 7/23/2011 16:33, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Looks like it is the USB port... computer doesnt seem to know it is there.

It should be drive F but when I plug either the card reader or my canon
P  S into it , the drive doesn't even come up...

The only drives that come up are C, D , E - E is the big old external
drive...

when things are working with the Vivitar plugged in, Adobe downloader
recognizes F,G,G,H...etc

After I went away and came back and rebooted and plugged in the creader
with a good CF card in it, I got that little chime sound that you get
when things are working... however, when I launched the downloader
the stuff at that port didn't show up on the list of choices.

Same thing when I just tried to use it for downloading directly from my
point and shoot... that didnt work either.

conclusion - it isn't the card reader thats mucked up ...
The pins look fine and it didnt take much effort to slip a card in..

The 2.0 does appear to be cooked, however - but that isn't a biggy at
all - the files that really matter that were one it are on the computer.

Also - the ACDsee device detector did detect the card reader...

Further, I tried my old 80 GB external drive there and nothing happened.

IDeas??? Anyone??

ann



On 7/23/2011 11:51, P. J. Alling wrote:

The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, which
you did already, by using the *ist-D. If it were recoverable by other
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the
card, and read it normally or asked if you wanted to format it, or
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes). CF cards
have their own controller much like any other memory device. If that's
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very expensive.

One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to plug
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that accesses USB
devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove
them). If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB
drives and the drive letter assigned to them. If you see the Vivitar
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is
good.

CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot
off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it
recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant GB!)

ann




Do you have a friend with a

card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the reader
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a
trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome to if
that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, and
I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 in1
Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I put it
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to explore to
make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas? which is to say, help!

ann













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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 my new puppy:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094

Absolutely adorable, and very well captured!

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Re: PESO: How hot IS it?

2011-07-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/5962115412/in/photostream

 I trust you know how the punchline goes.  Hope everyone beset by the
 heatwave is keeping cool!

I'm surviving with plenty of fluids.  I'll say no more.

;-)

That poor guy is clearly affected.  Well captured.  I guess it's hot all over.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 112 - GDG

2011-07-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Another new one in the Communicating series:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5962836202/in/photostream/lightbox/
 or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5962836202/


 It's a three exposure, panorama composite.

 thanks for looking, comments always appreciated.

Wonderful!

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
It could simply be a problem of the drives being screwed up.  The system 
regestery can end up pointing two different device drives at the same 
port, which might keep either driver from working properly.  In the 
control panel open the system dialog, and switch to the hardware tab.  
There should be a button labeled hardware, to open the device manager.  
Check to see if you have any yellow question marks displayed.


On 7/23/2011 4:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Looks like it is the USB port... computer doesnt seem to know it is 
there.


It should be drive F  but when I plug either the card reader or my 
canon P  S into it , the drive doesn't even come up...


The only drives that come up are C, D , E  -  E is the big old 
external drive...


when things are working with the Vivitar plugged in,  Adobe downloader 
recognizes F,G,G,H...etc


After I went away and came back and rebooted and plugged in the 
creader with a good CF card in it, I got that little chime sound that 
you get when things are working... however, when I launched the 
downloader

the stuff at that port didn't show up on the list of choices.

Same thing when I just tried to use it for downloading directly from my
point and shoot... that didnt work either.

conclusion - it isn't the card reader thats mucked up ...
The pins look fine and it didnt take much effort to slip a card in..

The 2.0 does appear to be cooked, however - but that isn't a biggy at 
all - the files that really matter that were one it are on the computer.


Also - the ACDsee device detector did detect the card reader...

Further, I tried my old 80 GB external drive there and nothing happened.

IDeas??? Anyone??

ann



On 7/23/2011 11:51, P. J. Alling wrote:

The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, which
you did already, by using the *ist-D. If it were recoverable by other
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the
card, and read it normally or asked if you wanted to format it, or
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes). CF cards
have their own controller much like any other memory device. If that's
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very expensive.

One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to plug
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that accesses USB
devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove
them). If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB
drives and the drive letter assigned to them. If you see the Vivitar
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is
good.

CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot
off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it
recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant GB!)

ann




Do you have a friend with a
card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the 
reader

has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a 
trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome 
to if

that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put 
the

card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try 
three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget, 
and

I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72 
in1

Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I 
put it

into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to 
explore to

make it all better but can't remember anything.

anyone have any ideas? which is to say, help!

ann














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Re: PESO: How hot IS it?

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Of course in actual response to the question of How hot is it? the 
answer it so hot my dog doesn't have to energy to be obnoxious.


On 7/21/2011 4:04 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/5962115412/in/photostream

I trust you know how the punchline goes.  Hope everyone beset by the
heatwave is keeping cool!

:)
-c




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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Walter Hamler
I can see why you named him that!

Walt

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 my new puppy:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
That should be drivers, not drives, and I really have to disable that 
damned self correction tool.



On 7/23/2011 4:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
It could simply be a problem of the drives being screwed up.  The 
system regestery can end up pointing two different device drives at 
the same port, which might keep either driver from working properly.  
In the control panel open the system dialog, and switch to the 
hardware tab.  There should be a button labeled hardware, to open the 
device manager.  Check to see if you have any yellow question marks 
displayed.


On 7/23/2011 4:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Looks like it is the USB port... computer doesnt seem to know it is 
there.


It should be drive F  but when I plug either the card reader or my 
canon P  S into it , the drive doesn't even come up...


The only drives that come up are C, D , E  -  E is the big old 
external drive...


when things are working with the Vivitar plugged in,  Adobe 
downloader recognizes F,G,G,H...etc


After I went away and came back and rebooted and plugged in the 
creader with a good CF card in it, I got that little chime sound that 
you get when things are working... however, when I launched the 
downloader

the stuff at that port didn't show up on the list of choices.

Same thing when I just tried to use it for downloading directly from my
point and shoot... that didnt work either.

conclusion - it isn't the card reader thats mucked up ...
The pins look fine and it didnt take much effort to slip a card in..

The 2.0 does appear to be cooked, however - but that isn't a biggy at 
all - the files that really matter that were one it are on the computer.


Also - the ACDsee device detector did detect the card reader...

Further, I tried my old 80 GB external drive there and nothing happened.

IDeas??? Anyone??

ann



On 7/23/2011 11:51, P. J. Alling wrote:
The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, 
which

you did already, by using the *ist-D. If it were recoverable by other
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the
card, and read it normally or asked if you wanted to format it, or
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes). CF cards
have their own controller much like any other memory device. If that's
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very 
expensive.


One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to plug
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that accesses 
USB

devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove
them). If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB
drives and the drive letter assigned to them. If you see the Vivitar
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is
good.

CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot
off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it
recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant 
GB!)


ann




Do you have a friend with a
card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the 
reader

has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a 
trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome 
to if

that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , 
put the

card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try 
three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont 
forget, and

I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 
72 in1

Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I 
put it

into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded 
onto

the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is something to 
explore to

make it all better but can't remember 

Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2011-07-23 14:30 , David Savage wrote:

The thing with shooting events is, the camera has a habit of removing
you from the moment.

I recommend you just enjoy the music...after that the shots will
present them self.


thanks for the thought; that is not a big issue in this case -- i am mainly 
shooting the scene in between: people, interactions, bikes, street art, that 
sort of thing


this is an event distributed over 22 venues on a few blocks, so there is lots 
of milling about on the streets, and only some of the music interests me; it 
just happens to be at my doorstep, so i get a free pass for having to deal with 
it for 4 days whether i want to or not; photographing the scene fits with my 
long-standing practice of documenting my neighborhood


on the subject you raise, i don't shoot performances much in general, 
especially performances i am really enjoying; i am very good at engaging with 
music i like; i sometimes take my camera (or iPhone) out to get a momento, but 
then put it away and that's that; there have been times, though, when 
photography has heightened my appreciation for something i am experiencing



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Re: Wide angle lens question

2011-07-23 Thread William Robb

On 23/07/2011 2:20 PM, Tony Cogan wrote:


I am currently using a Pentax FA28-70 f4 and a Sigma 17-35 F2.8. I would
like to get a single lens that covers this same range; 17-70-ish. I'd
like something a bit better than the consumer-grade and hopefully in the
$300 to $400 range. What suggestions can you give me?


The Pentax 17-70 fit's the bill perfectly. Note that it is rather prone 
to barrel distortion (at least the one I tried was), but the more modern 
Pentax bodies (K5) do distortion correction and Lightroom's most recent 
version, as well as Photoshop 12 (CS5) also support distortion 
correction for the 17-70 (and a whole bunch of other Pentax lenses).



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PESO - Nice Hat

2011-07-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
A candid street portrait at today's Birmingham, Michigan street fair.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13836232

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Re: PESO - Nice Hat

2011-07-23 Thread Bulent Celasun
Lovely.
And I am  not talking only about the hat ;)

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2011/7/23 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 A candid street portrait at today's Birmingham, Michigan street fair.


 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13836232

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Re: PESO - Nice Hat

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice eyes as well.  That is a lovely portrait.

Dan
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 A candid street portrait at today's Birmingham, Michigan street fair.


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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I knew you meant drivers :-)
and yes! yellow question mark is there ---

right over the second  line that says USB Mass storage device
So whats my next move?

(I think I may owe you a discount on the lens;-) )

ann


On 7/23/2011 16:49, P. J. Alling wrote:

It could simply be a problem of the drives being screwed up. The system
regestery can end up pointing two different device drives at the same
port, which might keep either driver from working properly. In the
control panel open the system dialog, and switch to the hardware tab.
There should be a button labeled hardware, to open the device manager.
Check to see if you have any yellow question marks displayed.

On 7/23/2011 4:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Looks like it is the USB port... computer doesnt seem to know it is
there.

It should be drive F but when I plug either the card reader or my
canon P  S into it , the drive doesn't even come up...

The only drives that come up are C, D , E - E is the big old external
drive...

when things are working with the Vivitar plugged in, Adobe downloader
recognizes F,G,G,H...etc

After I went away and came back and rebooted and plugged in the
creader with a good CF card in it, I got that little chime sound that
you get when things are working... however, when I launched the
downloader
the stuff at that port didn't show up on the list of choices.

Same thing when I just tried to use it for downloading directly from my
point and shoot... that didnt work either.

conclusion - it isn't the card reader thats mucked up ...
The pins look fine and it didnt take much effort to slip a card in..

The 2.0 does appear to be cooked, however - but that isn't a biggy at
all - the files that really matter that were one it are on the computer.

Also - the ACDsee device detector did detect the card reader...

Further, I tried my old 80 GB external drive there and nothing happened.

IDeas??? Anyone??

ann



On 7/23/2011 11:51, P. J. Alling wrote:

The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, which
you did already, by using the *ist-D. If it were recoverable by other
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the
card, and read it normally or asked if you wanted to format it, or
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes). CF cards
have their own controller much like any other memory device. If that's
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very expensive.

One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to plug
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that accesses USB
devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove
them). If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB
drives and the drive letter assigned to them. If you see the Vivitar
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is
good.

CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot
off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects it... it
recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant GB!)

ann




Do you have a friend with a

card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the
reader
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a
trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome
to if
that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put
the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try
three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget,
and
I get Memory card error aarrgh.

The pins look ok in the card reader which is a Vivitar series 1 72
in1
Hi speed card/reader writer.

The card is a 2 mb CF card (remember, my camera is istD) when I
put it
into the camera I got the Memory card error message.

The good news is, that except for the photos I took yesterday of
equipment and a couple of chotskas and Ashley are already loaded onto
the computer... nothing I couldn't reshoot...

The bad news is I have no clue what to do to do to make the card
reader come back to life. I put another CF card into it and still no
go...
I'm thinking somewhere on my computer there is 

Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread John

I don't understand the discussion?  I generally just say your name

John


On 7/23/2011 2:22 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

On Jul 23, 2011, at 02:16 , Boris Liberman wrote:


It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in Russian 
I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...

Boris

Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't…


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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread William Robb

On 23/07/2011 3:04 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I knew you meant drivers :-)
and yes! yellow question mark is there ---

right over the second line that says USB Mass storage device
So whats my next move?



Uninstall it and let Windows find it and reinstall it.

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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks Walter, Frank, Ann and Jack.

He is a real charmer, and very well behaved.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 He gonna be BIG! Cute name.

 Jack

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 Subject: PESO: Bandit
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 11:54 AM
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The first thing to try is delete the driver from the system and hope 
that it re-installs correctly.  Click on the  Item with the question 
mark to expand the branch if it isn't.  Then right click on highest item 
in branch with the question mark, and from the context menu select 
delete item.  A dialog asking if you want to reboot will appear, if 
there are no more question marks then yes you do.  Otherwise repeat 
until there are no more question items.  Then let the system reboot and 
find new hardware.  With luck you won't have to do anything else.


On 7/23/2011 5:04 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I knew you meant drivers :-)
and yes! yellow question mark is there ---

right over the second  line that says USB Mass storage device
So whats my next move?

(I think I may owe you a discount on the lens;-) )

ann


On 7/23/2011 16:49, P. J. Alling wrote:

It could simply be a problem of the drives being screwed up. The system
regestery can end up pointing two different device drives at the same
port, which might keep either driver from working properly. In the
control panel open the system dialog, and switch to the hardware tab.
There should be a button labeled hardware, to open the device manager.
Check to see if you have any yellow question marks displayed.

On 7/23/2011 4:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Looks like it is the USB port... computer doesnt seem to know it is
there.

It should be drive F but when I plug either the card reader or my
canon P  S into it , the drive doesn't even come up...

The only drives that come up are C, D , E - E is the big old external
drive...

when things are working with the Vivitar plugged in, Adobe downloader
recognizes F,G,G,H...etc

After I went away and came back and rebooted and plugged in the
creader with a good CF card in it, I got that little chime sound that
you get when things are working... however, when I launched the
downloader
the stuff at that port didn't show up on the list of choices.

Same thing when I just tried to use it for downloading directly from my
point and shoot... that didnt work either.

conclusion - it isn't the card reader thats mucked up ...
The pins look fine and it didnt take much effort to slip a card in..

The 2.0 does appear to be cooked, however - but that isn't a biggy at
all - the files that really matter that were one it are on the 
computer.


Also - the ACDsee device detector did detect the card reader...

Further, I tried my old 80 GB external drive there and nothing 
happened.


IDeas??? Anyone??

ann



On 7/23/2011 11:51, P. J. Alling wrote:
The only thing to do is to try the bad card in a different device, 
which

you did already, by using the *ist-D. If it were recoverable by other
than superhuman efforts the *ist-D would have either recognized the
card, and read it normally or asked if you wanted to format it, or
formatted it without asking, (yes, it does that sometimes). CF cards
have their own controller much like any other memory device. If that's
cooked the data may still be there but recovery would be very 
expensive.


One way to see if your card reader might still be good would be to 
plug
it into the USB port and use the Icon on your menu bar that 
accesses USB

devices available on your computer, (and allows you to safely remove
them). If you double click it you'll get a dialog that shows all USB
drives and the drive letter assigned to them. If you see the Vivitar
reader in the list then you have a pretty good idea that the reader is
good.

CF cards do fail, could be that it's time had just come.



On 7/23/2011 11:22 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/23/2011 11:08, John wrote:

Ann,

Does the second card record in the camera?

Yes..

I have several CF cards... the one that failed has been reformatted a
few times already.. it would be nice if I could get the stuff I shot
off it.

One more piece of info - the Adobe downloader asks me to select a
device.. whereas,when things are working properly, it detects 
it... it

recognizes there is a card reader in the port.

I could have just bopped over to Staples and ask them to try it but
the weather is keeping me from venturing out at least not more than
a few steps.

at the moment I've mislaid the 2gB card (I said mg before, I meant 
GB!)


ann




Do you have a friend with a

card slot on a laptop in their computer? It sounds as though the
reader
has caused a formatting error on the card.. If the problem is the
reader, then the card can be reformatted. If you are looking for a
trial
horse I have a 1 GB card just gathering dust that you are welcome
to if
that would help

John G

On 7/23/2011 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

So I was talking more photos of the gear I got (of and with) and a
couple of other things yesterday - put it in the card reader , put
the
card reader into its little USB port, as always, and nada... that
little chime that goes off when I do this doesn't chime... I try
three
times -- then I put the card back into the camera, so wont forget,
and
I get Memory 

Re: PESO - Base Hit

2011-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
Sure! Coming to you off list.

Jack

--- On Sat, 7/23/11, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Base Hit
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, July 23, 2011, 1:43 PM
 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jack
 Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Like it much better, Frank. One reason is the enlarged
 facial/eye expression of the hitter. Did notice that the
 catcher is looking higher, but that's likely due to his not
 having yet found the ball.
  Never without MY idea, I down loaded it and cropped
 even more off the right side. I cropped the ump to just
 about mid arm at his elbow, thus leaving his arm in one
 continuous piece. I like the composition a bit better that
 way.
 
 Thanks, Jack.  I'd love to see your crop, if you don't
 mind sending it to me.
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
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Re: I'm ok

2011-07-23 Thread DagT
The Norwegian, right wing extremist has now admitted the deed and he published 
a 1500 pages text with his plans about the same time as he started killing 
people. My first thought is that we have talked too much about religions and 
too little about extremist in general in this country.

I hope lives a long life, sufficiently long to make him understand and live 
through, again and again, what he has done. Norway is a small country. I hope 
he meets people in jail who knew someone he killed.

Sorry about the emotional rant.

DagT


Den 23. juli 2011 kl. 14.26 skrev Tim Øsleby:

 It is good to know that alle members are safe.
 
 For the moment nobody knows what really has happened. As it seem, it
 was a norwegian extremist (or, more likly, extreists) who did the
 deeds.
 A inner enemi is IMO even more frightening. Whatever has happened,
 I'm afraid we will see a less open society after this.
 
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 My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/
 
 
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Re: 99.7F in Boston

2011-07-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:49 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here we call that summer

DS

Where is here?

100.1 F here at 3 pm, but I had a nice ride along the backroads at 8am.


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Re: I'm ok and Re: Oslo Blast

2011-07-23 Thread Eckehard Wegner
I honestly couldn't care less what he used. As long as guns are sold
people will use them to kill other people. I just pray that the
victims didn't suffer too much...

Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2011 schrieb John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
 From: Toralf Lund

 Joseph McAllister wrote:




 They are still searching the waters around Utoya, as many tried to
 escape by swimming away, knowing  there was no way they could reach
 land elsewhere. One man swam away without removing his clothes or
 shoes first. He was forced to turn back and go ashore before he
 sank and drowned. The gunman walked up to him and shot him. But he
 survived and was interviewed. His timeline was reported as at least
 one hour before the police arrived, and another hour until the
 shooting stopped when the gunman was tracked down and arrested by a
 Delta Force team. They recovered a machine gun they declined to
 identify. AK-47 certainly comes to mind.


 My theory is a HK MP-5 (widely used  by the police and armed
 forces), but it really makes little difference.


 CNN is reporting the suspect is a member of the Oslo pistol club and has 
 three weapons registered under his name - Glock pistol, a rifle and a shotgun.



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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  That's a really cute puppy and a lovely picture of him!  Congrats, Dan!  
Cheers, christine



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 my new puppy:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094
 
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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling

He probably has really big paws...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017884/Biggest-dog-world-Meet-George-7ft-long-Great-Dane--whos-terrified-chihuahuas.html

On 7/23/2011 8:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Wow!  That's a really cute puppy and a lovely picture of him!  Congrats, Dan!  
Cheers, christine



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my new puppy:

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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Christine.

Dan
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 Wow!  That's a really cute puppy and a lovely picture of him!  Congrats, Dan! 
  Cheers, christine



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RE: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Jeffery Johnson
I can already tell Bandit is going to be a spoiled doggy.

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Re: PESO - Base Hit

2011-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:58 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 This is a re-do of the first pic of my recent Boys of Summer GESO:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/boys-of-summer.html
 
 I really liked that first pic, but there was something just not
 right.  After lots of hemmming and hawing, I decided to drop the
 spectator on the left.  I'd first left him in there as his eyes seemed
 to be following the hit baseball into the outfield.  But the more I
 thought about it, I realized that the eyes of the young hitter (and
 that wonderful expression on his face just after he smacked the line
 drive) were all I needed - the spectator was just a distraction.  By
 cropping him out, it brings the three at the plate (especially the
 hitter) into focus.
 
 At least I think so.  What think you?
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/base-hit.html


I think that it's a huge improvement. The crop has everything necessary in the 
photo, and nothing that isn't.


 
 Your comments and suggestions will be welcome.  Hope you enjoy.
 
 cheers,
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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well, he has big paws, but not as big as George's!

Bandit is an Alaskan Malamute, and should weigh 85-90 pounds when
fully grown.  He has become quite a lap dog, and I shudder to think
what that will mean a year from now.

Dan
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webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 He probably has really big paws...

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017884/Biggest-dog-world-Meet-George-7ft-long-Great-Dane--whos-terrified-chihuahuas.html

 On 7/23/2011 8:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Wow!  That's a really cute puppy and a lovely picture of him!  Congrats,
 Dan!  Cheers, christine



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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13835094

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Re: PESO: Bandit

2011-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, he is already spoiled.  What else does one do with pets?

Dan
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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I can already tell Bandit is going to be a spoiled doggy.

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Re: Memory card and card reader problem

2011-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

P.j. said essentially the same thing.. but it hung up...
then gave me the program is not responding junk...

tried a coule times

ann

On 7/23/2011 17:20, William Robb wrote:

On 23/07/2011 3:04 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I knew you meant drivers :-)
and yes! yellow question mark is there ---

right over the second line that says USB Mass storage device
So whats my next move?



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