Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
On Sep 14, 2011, at 03:26 , Brian Walters wrote: On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:05 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Has anyone yet set their computer to Speak Aussie? That might be the problem. Bloody oath, cobber, IE's a bit dodgy - just use Firefox and she'll be apples. That's the ticket… There ya go… (Get an iMac and go gold!) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . Any comments? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia there's a very good document called 'Communicating or Just Making Pretty Shapes' which you can find somewhere on the web which gives the results of various studies into the way different fonts, layouts, colours, backgrounds etc. affect how much of a document people read, understand and remember. Well worth finding and using. In summary, serif for main text, sans serif for headings, black type, white background. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nice Clean Rooms
On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:24 PM, frank theriault wrote: So, I'm finally back. New hard drive in an old laptop, but hey, it's working! I loaded an old PS 7.0 that I had hanging around, and we're off to the races! Welcome back. There used to be lots of these roadside motels around the outskirts of Toronto (this one's near Port Credit) but they're fast disappearing. The rendering is a bit dark, because it was around dusk. I wanted it this way: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/nice-clean-rooms.html It certainly is evocative. It does a great job of portraying a place that has seen better days, and the better days weren't all that good to begin with. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Nice to be back! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2011 - 123 - GDG
Been a bit too busy to get much done photographically of late, but I did spend time to work out my scanning settings with the second test roll of XP2 I put through the Leica M4-2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6149025155/in/set-72157625672485865/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6149025155/in/set-72157625672485865/ (oJack, you're immortalized. ;-) I chose to experiment with Vuescan scanning settings on this negative as it is a difficult negative .. the background is nearly completely blocked up, the foreground is underexposed. It expresses the whole range of tonal values. After four configuration tries, I arrived at a set of settings that produces results I'm pleased with, even with this extreme negative. I'll go back and apply them to the rest of the roll ... I had Vuescan capture to DNG encapsulated TIFF files and also output a set of raw uncorrected files, so I can re-process without having to run the film through the scanner again ... and then I'll have another gallery to post. thots: - Film is a lot more work than digital ... - This little Skopar 35mm f/2.5 is a superb lens. enjoy! comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- PESO 2011 Set on Flickr to date: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625672485865/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: September PUG - Self Portrait Gallery is up
On Sep 14, 2011, at 23:16 , Joseph McAllister wrote: On Sep 14, 2011, at 03:26 , Brian Walters wrote: On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:05 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Has anyone yet set their computer to Speak Aussie? That might be the problem. Bloody oath, cobber, IE's a bit dodgy - just use Firefox and she'll be apples. That's the ticket… There ya go… (Get an iMac and go gold!) If you are into Firefly, that'd be it's shiny. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
on 2011-09-14 23:36 John Coyle wrote Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . that's the Swiss school, which i admire, and once emulated; it might feel right for social sciences; for shorter passages in print i prefer a carefully chosen, more humanist sans serif, probably at a lighter weight than Arial regular; unless i want the typeface to help make a point, though, for longer passages (articles and books) i'd use one of the better serif faces (chosen based on context) but i would not make those choices for readability; many people think there is conclusive research about readability, but mostly there is just people who think the research must have been conclusive, and somehow this state of non-knowledge is not self-repairing i personally think that people's reading habits and skills are too varied and that our typographic environment (and thus conditioning) is too rapidly evolving to pin this question down; here's an overview of the question you might find interesting: http://alexpoole.info/which-are-more-legible-serif-or-sans-serif-typefaces -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
on 2011-09-14 19:45 Larry Colen wrote I hear that typography is a tough Knuth to crack. Knuth was a bold type, that's for sure -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Back in the days when I worked for Hearst, it was considered gospel that serifs were easier to read. If you look through a lot of pubs today, you'll see most use serifs for body copy. Personally, I find a standard serif font like times or garamond to be easier to read that san serifs. That may be just a matter of what I'm accustomed to. Paul On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:36 AM, John Coyle wrote: Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . Any comments? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I hate comic sans. Chalkboard is slightly better, but it's still a silly font. As far as being an imitation goes, that's true of many, many fonts. Futura is an imitation of Helvetica, Futura predates Helvetica by about 25 years. (Arial is the imitation Helvetica.) Well then, Helvetica is an imitation of Futura:-). In truth, I can see that arial is closer to helvetica than is futura. My point is that many fonts differ only slightly from their bretheren. There are so many fonts available that choosing one over the other is usually just splitting hairs. I recently had to help write specs for a magazine redesign. Since i'm no font expert, I merely looked at what was used in the pubs that won awards. (The majority of mags use two fonts, with a san serif in headlines and a serif in body copy, with some playful switching here and there.) The resulting recommendation was adobe garamond pro and arial. They are, of course, totally different, so they're happy together -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Monarch's Meal
The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I shot an album cover for my friend, Paul Miles, a well-regarded Detroit bluesman: It's a large image. Click to make smaller. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14205591size=lg Looks very islands (as in the Caribbean). Great shot. He must be very happy with it! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The Tao of the Compact
Our recent discussion of the Pentax Q got me thinking, which is always dangerous. One big problem with list discussions is that so much of photography is personal. On an email list like the PDML, folks are typing quickly and often don’t make clear when they know they are giving an opinion and when they think they are expressing a fact. For example, I like small cameras because I am likely to grab one as I walk out the door. That was one of the attractive features of Pentax and it’s a very attractive feature of the current generation of mu43 cameras like the E-P2. I am convinced the image quality of the smaller four thirds sensors is not as good as APS-C. Of course, I have a K7 and the difference is less obvious that it would be with a K5. I could have gotten a K5 if I had sold the K7 and not bought my more recent mu43 purchases. I didn’t and I still wouldn’t. I am an amateur and my photography is there to let me play artist and contribute to the family scrapbook. The latter is always good enough with any of these cameras. My wife uses an Optio I-10 and (annoyingly) seems to do as well as me. Noise just doesn’t bother me very much so my high iso performance is more than adequate. The biggest challenge for me is the limited dynamic range and I enjoy that challenge. When I am taking pictures to please myself, I don’t mind the limitations of the camera. Sure, I can delight in a new lens but usually it’s a prime. My SOP is to go off with one prime and work around it. I’ve recently realized that I’m a better adapter than a chooser. I actually dislike having to pick from too many choices. I find it much more satisfying to take a small camera and one prime and try to make it work. I completely understand that a pro can’t do this and when I’m asked to do weddings I show up with the K7, the flash and the FA135, the DA 18-55, etc. Lately however, that stuff just sits in the bag. I honestly think that if I had the money I would get a Q and a few lenses rather than a K5. The Q system would be inferior for every technical reason and it would get a lot more use. Sorry for the manifesto but better here than going off topic in class. ;-) -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for Enablement
I had the A50. I really like the output but at the time it was one of the sale items to buy the K7. It's remarkably small for a macro and makes pretty good normal lens since the front element is so recessed and you never need a hood. On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: I've been itching to get my hands on something to let me do some macro type work. I was hoping to score a pentax-a 50 macro for ~ $150 which seemed a bit optimistic. Instead, Lady Luck threw me a fa 50/2.8 for not very much more. It's supposed to show up at work tomorrow. Might not sleep too well tonight! :-) Do any of you have one? It seems to get great reviews on pentax forums. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Back in the days when I worked for Hearst, it was considered gospel that serifs were easier to read. If you look through a lot of pubs today, you'll see most use serifs for body copy. Personally, I find a standard serif font like times or garamond to be easier to read that san serifs. That may be just a matter of what I'm accustomed to. It's still taken as gospel in a lot of places but there's precious little evidence to back it up. The main line of thinking is that serifs make it easier to distinguish between, say, an upper case I, a lower case l and the numeral 1. In some typefaces these are virtually identical and can only be worked out by context within the word or sentence in which they're used. This is done unconsciously almost instantaneously but it believed to make reading more fatiguing. In actual practice things like leading, x-height and counter size play a large role as well. Possibly as big or bigger than the presence of serifs, but it's impossible to tell for certain. After all, it's not as if you can compare fonts that are identical in every way except for the presence of serifs! (Even if you created such a pair of typefaces they wouldn't be ones that are used anywhere outside your experiment.) Screen vs. print likely makes a difference, as does screen size and resolution. But if some people find your sans-serif body text hard to read it's probably a good idea to try something else, even it it's a different sans-serif typeface. I only find sans-serif bothersome for really large amounts of text like newspapers, magazines or books. Since the usual recommendation for web writing is 1500 words or fewer for an article, I don't mind sans-serif there unless it's a weird font, too small or with cramped leading. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Waiting for Enablement
Sweet dreams, Sam. ;) Jack - Original Message - From: Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: Waiting for Enablement I've been itching to get my hands on something to let me do some macro type work. I was hoping to score a pentax-a 50 macro for ~ $150 which seemed a bit optimistic. Instead, Lady Luck threw me a fa 50/2.8 for not very much more. It's supposed to show up at work tomorrow. Might not sleep too well tonight! :-) Do any of you have one? It seems to get great reviews on pentax forums. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
Beautiful, Frank! My feeling it, although you didn't ask, that the background greenery is thin and soft enough not to be a problem. Jack - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:24 AM Subject: PESO - Monarch's Meal The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Thanks Frank. He is pleased, and I had a good time shooting it. Paul On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:35 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I shot an album cover for my friend, Paul Miles, a well-regarded Detroit bluesman: It's a large image. Click to make smaller. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14205591size=lg Looks very islands (as in the Caribbean). Great shot. He must be very happy with it! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A question for mac users
On Sep 14, 2011, at 21:55, steve harley wrote: without getting too detailed, i understand the problem with Office 2008 is that the _installer_ is PowerPC, but if it's already installed and you upgrade to Lion, it will run, though there are some issues That is just funny. Srsly, Microsoft? Office 2011 seems to run OK on my cow-orker's Lion installation. He uses it mostly for Excel. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Sarcastic responses to well-meaning signs
http://www.happyplace.com/4286/brilliantly-sarcastic-responses-to-completely-well-meaning-signs Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A question for mac users
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 14, 2011, at 21:55, steve harley wrote: without getting too detailed, i understand the problem with Office 2008 is that the _installer_ is PowerPC, but if it's already installed and you upgrade to Lion, it will run, though there are some issues That is just funny. Srsly, Microsoft? I think Office 2008 also ran on PowerPC. So if you want to have a single installer that runs on either architecture, and PowerPC can only run PowerPC code, but Intel can (at the time) run both, their approach makes sense. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
I also am enjoying this discussion. Stating the obvious: Photography is a visual medium. Therefore, most photographers are Visual People (or become so, as they progress in their craft). If you see a photograph that you like, it is is partially for the content but also for the way that content is presented (composition, angle, angle of view, lines, color, contrast, depth-of-field, etc). One can learn a lot by doing an analysis of any photography beyond I like that and make it WHY do I like that (or the converse). The same is true of Graphic Design. One can turn the same critical eye on magazine layouts, print ads, billboards, book covers (etc.). Analyze everything, including the negative space, fonts/typefaces used, linespacing, letter-spacing. It is all a part of developing one's Eye. This may be poo-poo'd by real graphic designers, but one could do worse than to start with the Non-Designer's Design Book by Robin Williams. Before and After examples help you to see the real difference that applying the principles (that I call C.R.A.P.) of Contrast, Repetition, Alignment, and Proximity in communicating through the placement of things on the page. Once you understand those principles, you can apply most of them to Typography (not only in how the type is used, but in the difference between a professionally designed vs amateur font). There are a ton of free font sites out there and good free fonts can be found, but there is a lot of crap out there, as well. In breaking down a font, the letter forms themselves might be fine, but the leading may be inconsistent as you type them on the computer. You can fix this by making the editable type into a graphic in Photoshop and doing your own leading (putting letters or groups of letters on their own layers so you can manipulate the spacing) but obviously this would not be practical for a longer block of text. As with anything, your education only STARTS with Knowing the Rules. You also have to know When to Break the Rules (and have a purpose in doing so). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: IstD BW modification
Yeah, that would be perfect for low light, or astrophotography. For me, I just want the detail that eliminating the de-mosiac filter and Bayer interpolation affords, plus straight up BW. I think you still need the microlenses to focus the light onto the photosites however, so I'm not sure how this would work as far as removing these filters go. I don't know why someone like Pentax doesn't just have a small, slightly modified assembly line to create a few of these specialized cameras every year, I'm sure there is a market for something like this. Not very big, but willing to buy it for specialized needs. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Gonz wrote: Anyone here ever converted a Pentax DSLR into a straight BW, i.e. remove the tricolor filter? I was thinking of trying this with an old Pentax DSLR if it was possible. For low light photography, I'd love to have a K-5 with that conversion. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dammit! Another cat photo!
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/kitties2.jpg Those are gorgeous kitties, Mark! And, a terrific photo, to boot. Love your choice of dof. Mike Johnston would be pleased... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sarcastic responses to well-meaning signs
LoL.. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:56 AM Subject: OT: Sarcastic responses to well-meaning signs http://www.happyplace.com/4286/brilliantly-sarcastic-responses-to-completely-well-meaning-signs Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?
Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n. The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters. So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as reference. TIA, -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Tao of the Compact
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I am an amateur and my photography is there to let me play artist and contribute to the family scrapbook. The latter is always good enough with any of these cameras. My wife uses an Optio I-10 and (annoyingly) seems to do as well as me. Noise just doesn’t bother me very much so my high iso performance is more than adequate. The biggest challenge for me is the limited dynamic range and I enjoy that challenge. When I am taking pictures to please myself, I don’t mind the limitations of the camera. Sure, I can delight in a new lens but usually it’s a prime. My SOP is to go off with one prime and work around it. I’ve recently realized that I’m a better adapter than a chooser. I actually dislike having to pick from too many choices. I find it much more satisfying to take a small camera and one prime and try to make it work. I completely understand that a pro can’t do this and when I’m asked to do weddings I show up with the K7, the flash and the FA135, the DA 18-55, etc. Lately however, that stuff just sits in the bag. I honestly think that if I had the money I would get a Q and a few lenses rather than a K5. The Q system would be inferior for every technical reason and it would get a lot more use. Sorry for the manifesto but better here than going off topic in class. ;-) Steve, I've certainly enjoyed my K-x and the baubles and trinkets that go along with it (my DA40, the kit lenses, a smattering of taks, a couple ms, and today a FA 50/2.8). But to be honest, its kind of a lot of clutter. Some people are already totally content with the quality of the smaller cameras. For me, I think in the next several years I will find my spot of contentment, too. And I'm looking forward to it. I look forward to having one compact camera I can pretty much bring with me everywhere and at the same time look forward to the decluttering of all these lenses and ancillary accessories. I keep thinking to myself: what a period of amazing technological growth we are living through, with really no end in sight. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Sarcastic responses to well-meaning signs
Sadly, I've even used some of those. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: LoL.. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:56 AM Subject: OT: Sarcastic responses to well-meaning signs http://www.happyplace.com/4286/brilliantly-sarcastic-responses-to-completely-well-meaning-signs Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Tao of the Compact
I keep thinking to myself: what a period of amazing technological growth we are living through, with really no end in sight. Boy, ain't that the truth. It was ten years a go that I took a photography seminar and was trying to convince the two PJs teaching it that digital would catch on. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I am an amateur and my photography is there to let me play artist and contribute to the family scrapbook. The latter is always good enough with any of these cameras. My wife uses an Optio I-10 and (annoyingly) seems to do as well as me. Noise just doesn’t bother me very much so my high iso performance is more than adequate. The biggest challenge for me is the limited dynamic range and I enjoy that challenge. When I am taking pictures to please myself, I don’t mind the limitations of the camera. Sure, I can delight in a new lens but usually it’s a prime. My SOP is to go off with one prime and work around it. I’ve recently realized that I’m a better adapter than a chooser. I actually dislike having to pick from too many choices. I find it much more satisfying to take a small camera and one prime and try to make it work. I completely understand that a pro can’t do this and when I’m asked to do weddings I show up with the K7, the flash and the FA135, the DA 18-55, etc. Lately however, that stuff just sits in the bag. I honestly think that if I had the money I would get a Q and a few lenses rather than a K5. The Q system would be inferior for every technical reason and it would get a lot more use. Sorry for the manifesto but better here than going off topic in class. ;-) Steve, I've certainly enjoyed my K-x and the baubles and trinkets that go along with it (my DA40, the kit lenses, a smattering of taks, a couple ms, and today a FA 50/2.8). But to be honest, its kind of a lot of clutter. Some people are already totally content with the quality of the smaller cameras. For me, I think in the next several years I will find my spot of contentment, too. And I'm looking forward to it. I look forward to having one compact camera I can pretty much bring with me everywhere and at the same time look forward to the decluttering of all these lenses and ancillary accessories. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dammit! Another cat photo!
Really nice. The do make a tempting subject, don't they? On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:53 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/kitties2.jpg Those are gorgeous kitties, Mark! And, a terrific photo, to boot. Love your choice of dof. Mike Johnston would be pleased... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: King of the Hill
We have an old desk in the basement that tends to collect junk. To some, the mountain beckons. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=cat-on-high.jpg -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A question for mac users
On 11-09-15 9:58 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 14, 2011, at 21:55, steve harley wrote: without getting too detailed, i understand the problem with Office 2008 is that the _installer_ is PowerPC, but if it's already installed and you upgrade to Lion, it will run, though there are some issues That is just funny. Srsly, Microsoft? I think Office 2008 also ran on PowerPC. So if you want to have a single installer that runs on either architecture, and PowerPC can only run PowerPC code, but Intel can (at the time) run both, their approach makes sense. Not really, because MacOS supports multi-architecture binaries that will run on whatever you have. MS was just being slow/lazy. They could have easily recompiled their installer with the latest dev kit to make it dual-architecture. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A question for mac users
On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:02, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-09-15 9:58 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 14, 2011, at 21:55, steve harley wrote: without getting too detailed, i understand the problem with Office 2008 is that the _installer_ is PowerPC, but if it's already installed and you upgrade to Lion, it will run, though there are some issues That is just funny. Srsly, Microsoft? I think Office 2008 also ran on PowerPC. So if you want to have a single installer that runs on either architecture, and PowerPC can only run PowerPC code, but Intel can (at the time) run both, their approach makes sense. Not really, because MacOS supports multi-architecture binaries that will run on whatever you have. MS was just being slow/lazy. They could have easily recompiled their installer with the latest dev kit to make it dual-architecture. A so-called universal binary. Yes, having installed software (Office for Mac 2008) be universal-binary, but the installer itself NOT be universal-binary was a dumbtastic decision. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
In Camera HDR
Anyone found the in-camera K5 HDR results even borderline usable? Have tried all strengths under a variety of mild to severe contrast scenes, but don't trust my results. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Tao of the Compact
On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:55 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Our recent discussion of the Pentax Q got me thinking, which is always dangerous. One big problem with list discussions is that so much of photography is personal. On an email list like the PDML, folks are typing quickly and often don’t make clear when they know they are giving an opinion and when they think they are expressing a fact. I think that for some people the only opinion that matters is their own. For example, I like small cameras because I am likely to grab one as I walk out the door. That was one of the attractive features of Pentax and it’s a very attractive feature of the current generation of mu43 cameras like the E-P2. I am convinced the image quality of the smaller four thirds sensors is not as good as APS-C. Of course, I have a K7 and the difference is less obvious that it would be with a K5. I could have gotten a K5 if I had sold the K7 and not bought my more recent mu43 purchases. I didn’t and I still wouldn’t. The shitty camera that is with you takes infinitely better pictures than the good camera that is at home. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In Camera HDR
On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone found the in-camera K5 HDR results even borderline usable? Have tried all strengths under a variety of mild to severe contrast scenes, but don't trust my results. I tried it once with no luck. If I think I'll want to HDR a scene, I just bracket in raw. The dynamic range of the K-5 is so impressive anyways that post processing HDR isn't needed nearly as often. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Excellent shot. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
That is really nice, Frank. I love the colors, the composition, the bokeh, everything. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:24 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: In Camera HDR
Sorta' my reaction at this point, Larry. Thanks! Jack - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: In Camera HDR On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone found the in-camera K5 HDR results even borderline usable? Have tried all strengths under a variety of mild to severe contrast scenes, but don't trust my results. I tried it once with no luck. If I think I'll want to HDR a scene, I just bracket in raw. The dynamic range of the K-5 is so impressive anyways that post processing HDR isn't needed nearly as often. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: King of the Hill
Because it's there..of course. ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: Peso: King of the Hill We have an old desk in the basement that tends to collect junk. To some, the mountain beckons. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=cat-on-high.jpg -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
Nice capture knarF ! I wish the background was a little more out of focus. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Monarch's Meal The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: King of the Hill
On 11-09-15 12:01 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: We have an old desk in the basement that tends to collect junk. To some, the mountain beckons. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=cat-on-high.jpg That's great! It looks like there's about to be a cat induced avalanche though ... -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: There are a ton of free font sites out there and good free fonts can be found, but there is a lot of crap out there, as well. In breaking down a font, the letter forms themselves might be fine, but the leading may be inconsistent as you type them on the computer. I think you're a bit astray here: Leading is the height (vertical distance) between lines of text and not part of the font characteristic at all. You may be referring to the Set Width of the characters, which is a characteristic of the font. This can be compensated for to some extent by adjusting the Tracking in Photoshop, but that affects the spacing of all the characters in the text. Adjusting the Kerning (spacing between individual letter pairs) is often the only way to make bad fonts work. (It's not uncommon for even well-designed fonts to look better at really large sizes by doing some manual Kerning but it shouldn't be necessary in body text.) You can fix this by making the editable type into a graphic in Photoshop You can adjust Leading, Tracking and Kerning in Photoshop without turning editable text into raster form. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Yep. Misspoke. Meant kerning. Thanks. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: the body I wish pentax would build
As long as we are WISHING, wouldn't it be cool if Pentax would take the knowledge they achieve from building the 645D and offer a 645 digital back for the 67? Obviously, 67 equipment prices would rise but I think there would be a not-insignificant number of people who would pay $3k-4k to make a 67 digital with a sensor size larger than FF DSLRs (even if it was with full manual exposure and focusing). I don't think it would cannibalize 645D sales, since the 645D offers AF and auto-exposure and all that good stuff. Never happen but we can wish Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Tao of the Compact
Interesting thoughts, Steve. I have been, in the context of Photography, at various times: - a researcher using cameras in a forensic manner ... for data gathering and documentation - a hobbyist enjoying photography and cameras for the satisfaction of having fun with the technology and the art, and to capture memories of family and friends - an exhibiting artist using the medium of photography - a professional photographer taking and delivering assignment work - a photographic professional consulting with photographers of all kinds on their use of cameras, computers, software, ideas and policies, and - an educator teaching workshops on the use of image processing tools. In other words, my interests and opinions in the realm of Photography and camera equipment are diverse and colored by 45+ years of being involved with it as my primary life activity both as and outside of my career(s) to make a living. When I offer opinion, it is always my opinion from first hand experience with the subject in question ... Or I say quite specifically that I'm am speculating. When I offer facts, they are either referenced by documentation I can point to explicitly or are the results of testing that I can articulate precisely. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The shitty camera that is with you takes infinitely better pictures than the good camera that is at home. This is why I try to only have good cameras. When the only good camera was something as large as a DSLR, I carried a DSLR all the time. When I had film cameras, I had three types of good film cameras: a high quality SLR (Nikon FM, FE, Fx) for when I needed maximum lens versatility, a high quality RF system camera (Leica II, III, M) for when something a little smaller, a little quieter but still quite versatile was required, and a pocketable compact (Rollei 35, Ricoh GR1, Minox 35GT-E) with a great lens for when I really couldn't or didn't want to carry anything more. I could always have a camera with me that produced super high quality results. Come the era of digital cameras (for me, about 2002-2006) and this nice trio of equipment fell apart. Small cameras either produced poor results or good results only in a relatively narrow domain of capabilities, cameras that produced quality results across the board were all large, bulky and noisy, and the middle option of an RF camera disappeared. Never mind the cost ... But now, five to six years on, the costs have become more approachable on the bulky DSLRs, there are (is) at least one RF camera available, and high-quality compacts have emerged. Even the sub-compact class I used to use for fun and learning (Minox) has emerged in the guise of high-quality cell phone cameras. So my trio of cameras that suit all my purposes and can be carried at all times has finally returned. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A question for mac users
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Yes, having installed software (Office for Mac 2008) be universal-binary, but the installer itself NOT be universal-binary was a dumbtastic decision. This happens because even a software giant like Microsoft often buys an installation engine from another third party vendor (rather than using the free one that Apple offers for whatever foolish reason), and most of those vendors are small and have limited resources to keep their products up to date. My job in an earlier part of my life at Apple was, in part, to try to work with those tool vendors and keep them up to snuff ... and I don't want to even begin to tell you how miserable *that* experience was in several cases. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Tao of the Compact
From: Larry Colen I think that for some people the only opinion that matters is their own. You know what opinions are like. Everyone's got one, and everybody thinks theirs is the only one that don't stink! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When high ISO performance matters (was: Pentax K-Q adapterandsuch)
Larry Colen wrote: I've seen reports, which I believe, that autofocus consistently outperforms manual focus. About speed, yes, about precision, it depends on many variables... The problem being that it focuses perfectly on the wrong thing. Sometimes, I'd add. I (and you too, I believe) have several pictures proving it can also focus on the right thing. I've found that live view, especially with zoom, allows me to focus in light that is beyond the ability for either unassisted, or autofocus. Unfortunately, the K-5 takes about a fortnight to actually take the shot after pressing the shutter, when in liveview. My suspicion is that somebody did some embedded systems programming when all they know is writing Java for desktop computers. When the scene is fairly static, I pop it into LV, manually focus, then pop it out of live view. Unfortunately, if I've taken any photos, pressing the LV button will freeze the camera up until everything has been written from buffer into memory (see note above about embedded systems programming). The K-5 is an amazing camera, and in many ways the one that I've been waiting to be affordable for years, or decades, but there are so many things about the software that are simply braindead. Almost every complaint I have about it is with the software. Give me access to the source code and a couple of months and I could give you a camera that is damned near perfect. Maybe you could talk to your special friends at Pentax and we could get those issues fixed. Sorry, not special enough, I'm afraid. In order to (hope to) influence such 'sensible' matter, I should be in close contact with Japanese designers or high-level executives, which is not the case. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Tao of the Compact
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 07:55:27AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote: [. . .] I like small cameras because I am likely to grab one as I walk out the door [ That is] a very attractive feature of the current generation of mu43 cameras like the E-P2. I am convinced the image quality of the smaller four thirds sensors is not as good as APS-C. Maybe not, but it's usually good enough. Until recently I was still shooting with a K-10D as my best camera. That's five-year-old technology (and three generations behind what Pentax are offering today), but I rarely found that the quality of the sensor was the most important factor to be considered. A little over a year ago I persuaded my wife that an E-PL1 would be a good upgrade from her old Casio compact point- and-shoot. That's got a 12MP sensor (about the same pixel count as the K-10D). Admittedly it's a newer-generation sensor (the E-P1 came out in mid-2009), but it's at least as good as the K-10D for day-to-day use, and far superior in low-light situations. Extrapolating wildly from this single-point measurement, I'd expect the performance of mu43 cameras to be about two years (or one sensor generation) behind APS-C bodies. (That matches what several other folks have concluded). So even if mu43 bodies aren't quite good enough today for your uses they probably will be in a couple of years (and to be realistic they're already good enough for the vast majority of current DSLR owners). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When high ISO performance matters (was: Pentax K-Q adapterandsuch)
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's very interesting to hear others' take on this. I have found over and over again that when I disable AF my photos are far more consistently in-focus, regardless of camera and regardless of how low the light I'm working in might be or whether the subjects are moving or not. AF generally does little other than slow things down for me. Like steve, I've moved more and more to abandoning AF entirely too. It can depend on subjects and situations one faces more often, and skills, of course. It's not difficult to believe you regarding pictures YOU shoot. But by and large with the best AF systems I've tried, I can focus faster and more accurately than any of them. I sometimes shoot at sports racing events and I *always* obtain better results with manual focus than with AF systems. That's a relative statement. It can mean you get excellent results with MF, or bad results with AF. I'm quite sure that pro sports photographers get far better results today with high-end AF cameras than they ever dreamed of with good old manual focus cameras. That's not just a guess. Internationally-rewarded sports photographers told me that, on occasion of interviews I took for the magazines I work for. AF is a useful convenience feature with quite a lot of significant limitations in my view. See above. But a lot of people hold your opinion as gospel and I'm not going to debate it. I don't take gospel as gospel, go figure about other opinions. Any opinion is fine unless it is denied by evidence in the same situation. I'm sorry, but as good as the K5 is, it is nowhere near the competence of the Nikon D3s as a professional grade camera body, nor are there anywhere near the depth and breadth of state of the art lenses available for it. It's simply not in that class of camera, and I doubt Pentax would assert that it was either. It's closer to the D700 class of camera, although again you're getting more in the larger format camera than Pentax offers with respect to base low light performance, improved AF, better viewfinder, and more lens options, albeit at a higher price. OK, let's say a K-5 outfit is the desperate's D3s/D700 outfit. I meant it's the best you can do for approaching the performance of the highest-end DSLR's while keeping a much lower level of expenditure. This discussion is certainly wandering away from the original intent of the thread. ;-) Which is not necessarily a bad thing ;-) Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When high ISO performance matters (was: Pentax K-Q adapterandsuch)
Larry Colen wtote: Would you have any chance of being able to afford an IR modified K-5? I don't think so, unfortunately. Or doing an IR modification to any other cameras? That's interesting. Who knows? I've found that an IR filtered flash is not noticeable to dancers. If they are looking at it when it goes off, they can see a dim red light, but the beam isn't perceptible. If you do a lot of extremely low light performance photos, that's a rig that might work well for you. Thanks for sharing this. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
I need some input from The Collective as to what pitfalls to look for in the purchase of a Pentax 67 kit. I'm not terribly familiar with them. Where are the battery compartments (to check for corrosion)? What else can go wrong with a camera like this that has set unused for a long time? I need this like a hole in the head, but it is in truly MINT condition (passed stickers still on everything in original cases). It is an original model 67 with TTL pentaprism finder. 105mm f2.4 55mm f4 135mm f4 Pentax 67 extension tube set Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Miniature enablement
Went to a local thrift shop today and got the Auto110 + AF130P + 50/2.8 + 24/2.8 + 18/2.8. And a Spotmatic with Super Tak 50/1.4 (body condition == toast but lens is good). Plus a Rollei A26 with C26. And (a keeper) Rollei XF35. All in all, a nice mid-day shopping trip. Now I need some 110 and 126 bw ... :-) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
On 9/15/2011 6:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank Wonderful shot, Frank! I only got a couple of butterfly shots this summer -- a spicebush swallowtail and another that I haven't been able to identify yet. The swallowtail would have been wonderful had it been in a location like the one you caught here. Unfortunately, it was just resting in a very bland-looking spot in a gravel driveway. Also unfortunately, some overzealous pruning rendered the mimosa tree that attracts them to my yard pretty well useless for shooting butterflies. That'll be a source of dyspepsia for a long time. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:54:55AM -0300, luiz felipe wrote: Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n. The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters. So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as reference. IIRC, the MZ-3 was the final incarnation of the MZ-5/MZ-5n series, with incremental improvements in every model. It was initially only available in Japan (fueling a thriving trade in grey-market imports). [I know the MZ-S was a later, higher-specced camera, but that was in a very different body; the MZ-3 is very similar in appearance to a MZ-5] I'd be very surprised if the MZ-3 wasn't at least as good as a MZ-5n on every scale of measurement, and significantly better in some areas. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
on 2011-09-15 10:41 Mark Roberts wrote Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: There are a ton of free font sites out there and good free fonts can be found, but there is a lot of crap out there, as well. In breaking down a font, the letter forms themselves might be fine, but the leading may be inconsistent as you type them on the computer. I think you're a bit astray here: Leading is the height (vertical distance) between lines of text and not part of the font characteristic at all. You may be referring to the Set Width of the characters, which is a characteristic of the font. i think he's referring more to the kerning tables, which, as you mention, define the spacing of individual pairs of characters (e.g. To should be spaced differently from Th); these kerning pairs make a big difference in the color of large blocks of type (how the text looks as a mass); good fonts have hundreds or thousands of hand-tuned kerning pairs; knock-off and hobby fonts often have little regard for this kind of quality; compensating for this by hand is hopeless with large quantities of text, but there are tools, such as the Optical Character Spacing option in InDesign, which can force shabby fonts to lay out with fairly good color, assuming other aspects of the font are adequate -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
Darren, An original 6x7 can be 'Spotmatic' vintage in age. They had a weakness in the chain linking the aperture to the meter/shutter speed dial. The later vintage 67 fixed the weakness. Take the pentaprism off and check the foam gasket - it can be dead and flattened out. You need a special key to cock the shutter without having film loaded. Good luck, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I need some input from The Collective as to what pitfalls to look for in the purchase of a Pentax 67 kit. I'm not terribly familiar with them. Where are the battery compartments (to check for corrosion)? What else can go wrong with a camera like this that has set unused for a long time? I need this like a hole in the head, but it is in truly MINT condition (passed stickers still on everything in original cases). It is an original model 67 with TTL pentaprism finder. 105mm f2.4 55mm f4 135mm f4 Pentax 67 extension tube set Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When high ISO performance matters
In reference to the previous message. I should have phrased it that I've found that AF will lock onto focus perfectly, but I have a hard time getting it to choose the right thing, especially if there's something with a sharp edge very close to what I want to photograph. I can't tell you how many photos I have of singers that are perfectly focused on the microphone, in front of them. It makes me wish I could just tell the camera to autofocus, then adjust the focus 6 inches back. On 9/15/2011 10:28 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Larry Colen wtote: Would you have any chance of being able to afford an IR modified K-5? I don't think so, unfortunately. Or doing an IR modification to any other cameras? That's interesting. Who knows? Maybe if you poke around on IR photography fora you could find someone with an IR modified SLR you could play with. I use the LEE #87 filters from BH I think that they're about $10 for a 10x10cm filter, and I made a holder to put them on my flashes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157608109191149/ My FZ20 wouldn't see anything in low light, I'd have to focus on an incandescent bulb that was at about the right distance and just aim by luck. A friend was able to give me an array of IREDs from an old dev project at his work, that I modded to run off a 6V battery. That's what the weird big thing attached to the bottom of the camera is. It turns out that it works well as an IR movie camera with that rig, better than it does as an IR camera. If you lived about 8,000 miles closer, I'd be happy to loan you my gear. I've found that an IR filtered flash is not noticeable to dancers. If they are looking at it when it goes off, they can see a dim red light, but the beam isn't perceptible. If you do a lot of extremely low light performance photos, that's a rig that might work well for you. Thanks for sharing this. Dario -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
Excellent butterfly pic. I like the color, composition and DOF. Paul On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:24 AM, frank theriault wrote: The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Excellent shot. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
John, Some years ago, 'Technology Review' changed fonts to Arial (I believe) and stopped hyphenating words, and left justified all columns instead of centering and padding lines to justify both left and right sides. I find this method more enjoyable and natural. MIT, who publishes the magazine, claimed it was technically better for the reader. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:36 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . Any comments? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I hate comic sans. Chalkboard is slightly better, but it's still a silly font. As far as being an imitation goes, that's true of many, many fonts. Futura is an imitation of Helvetica, Futura predates Helvetica by about 25 years. (Arial is the imitation Helvetica.) Well then, Helvetica is an imitation of Futura:-). In truth, I can see that arial is closer to helvetica than is futura. My point is that many fonts differ only slightly from their bretheren. There are so many fonts available that choosing one over the other is usually just splitting hairs. I recently had to help write specs for a magazine redesign. Since i'm no font expert, I merely looked at what was used in the pubs that won awards. (The majority of mags use two fonts, with a san serif in headlines and a serif in body copy, with some playful switching here and there.) The resulting recommendation was adobe garamond pro and arial. They are, of course, totally different, so they're happy together -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
If it's an original model 67, rather than a 6x7, that's a very good thing. That camera has improved shutter cocking. If it's a 6x7, make sure it has mirror lockup. A mirror lockup version has a switch on the housing next to the lens mount. You'll want that for tripod work, as that mirror is a heavy mother. Paul On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I need some input from The Collective as to what pitfalls to look for in the purchase of a Pentax 67 kit. I'm not terribly familiar with them. Where are the battery compartments (to check for corrosion)? What else can go wrong with a camera like this that has set unused for a long time? I need this like a hole in the head, but it is in truly MINT condition (passed stickers still on everything in original cases). It is an original model 67 with TTL pentaprism finder. 105mm f2.4 55mm f4 135mm f4 Pentax 67 extension tube set Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:09 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2011-09-15 10:41 Mark Roberts wrote Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: There are a ton of free font sites out there and good free fonts can be found, but there is a lot of crap out there, as well. In breaking down a font, the letter forms themselves might be fine, but the leading may be inconsistent as you type them on the computer. I think you're a bit astray here: Leading is the height (vertical distance) between lines of text and not part of the font characteristic at all. You may be referring to the Set Width of the characters, which is a characteristic of the font. i think he's referring more to the kerning tables, which, as you mention, define the spacing of individual pairs of characters (e.g. To should be spaced differently from Th); these kerning pairs make a big difference in the color of large blocks of type (how the text looks as a mass); good fonts have hundreds or thousands of hand-tuned kerning pairs; knock-off and hobby fonts often have little regard for this kind of quality; compensating for this by hand is hopeless with large quantities of text, but there are tools, such as the Optical Character Spacing option in InDesign, which can force shabby fonts to lay out with fairly good color, assuming other aspects of the font are adequate I think you meant that OCS can force fonts to lay out with fairly good letter spacing -- or kerning. And of course you can hand kern in InDesign or Quark. It was relatively simple with Quark. Unfortunately, I've had only minimal experience with InDesign -- something I need to correct -- but I suspect kerning is fairly simple in that program as well. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
On 9/15/2011 9:39 AM, Ken Waller wrote: Nice capture knarF ! I wish the background was a little more out of focus. Out of focus is a bourgeois concept. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Monarch's Meal The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
Thanks for the input so far. The camera body says 6x7, but that means it could have been mfg over quite a period of years. I will look for the mirror lock-up. From what I'm reading the mirror caused vibration problems at slower shutter speeds. Is the seal under the prism the same stuff as seals used on camera backs? Assuming it can be replaced. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I think you meant that OCS can force fonts to lay out with fairly good letter spacing -- or kerning. And of course you can hand kern in InDesign or Quark. It was relatively simple with Quark. Unfortunately, I've had only minimal experience with InDesign -- something I need to correct -- but I suspect kerning is fairly simple in that program as well. You can hand kern in Photoshop now. And adjust leading and tracking. InDesign and Illustrator have more advenced tools still. In InDesign you have options for hyphenation and for word spacing options with justified text. All pretty easy to do. (I was just teaching hand kerning in Illustrator about 20 minutes ago - I think I have a pretty good batch of students this semester!) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I think you meant that OCS can force fonts to lay out with fairly good letter spacing -- or kerning. And of course you can hand kern in InDesign or Quark. It was relatively simple with Quark. Unfortunately, I've had only minimal experience with InDesign -- something I need to correct -- but I suspect kerning is fairly simple in that program as well. You can hand kern in Photoshop now. And adjust leading and tracking. InDesign and Illustrator have more advenced tools still. In InDesign you have options for hyphenation and for word spacing options with justified text. All pretty easy to do. (I was just teaching hand kerning in Illustrator about 20 minutes ago - I think I have a pretty good batch of students this semester!) I put the type on the Paul Miles photo in PhotoShop. I noticed there are some options beyond leading and font size. I'll have to fool around and see how they work. I miss Quark. I'm a stubborn old goat, and I don't like change. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
On 9/15/2011 9:45 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Yep. Misspoke. Meant kerning. Thanks. Is that something they do down in Bakersfield? (which is in Kern County, for those not familiar with California Geography) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 9/15/2011 9:45 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Yep. Misspoke. Meant kerning. Thanks. Is that something they do down in Bakersfield? (which is in Kern County, for those not familiar with California Geography) Leading, on the other hand, is done in Galena. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
on 2011-09-15 13:08 Paul Stenquist wrote On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:09 PM, steve harley wrote: compensating for this by hand is hopeless with large quantities of text, but there are tools, such as the Optical Character Spacing option in InDesign, which can force shabby fonts to lay out with fairly good color, assuming other aspects of the font are adequate I think you meant that OCS can force fonts to lay out with fairly good letter spacing -- or kerning. when OCS force possibly better kerning, it results in possibly better color, color being the main reason to pay attention to kerning in body text letter spacing intuitively seems the same as kerning, but to typographers it generally means the overall tracking (the book title Stop Stealing Sheep comes from a Goudy quote Anyone who would letterspace lower case would steal sheep) And of course you can hand kern in InDesign or Quark. It was relatively simple with Quark. it's simple in both -- just learn the keyboard shortcuts; but one generally only hand-kerns display type, or sometimes body type in a high-dollar job like a magazine ad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
on 2011-09-15 13:29 Paul Stenquist wrote I miss Quark. I'm a stubborn old goat, and I don't like change. i still support a publishing automation system using QuarkXPress 8, so i run it often; it's not a bad program, but InDesign is a better tool overall; my fingers can only remember the Quark shortcuts, though -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?
De: John Francis jo...@panix.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves 15 de septiembre de 2011 19:55 Asunto: Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5? On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:54:55AM -0300, luiz felipe wrote: Just found a MZ-3 offer at acceptable price, and I like the idea of keeping a film body around for moments when risk of theft of the KR is high - currently a job done by an EOS 500n. The MZ-3 looks the MZ-5 with DOF preview and a higher top shutter and X sync speeds. I'm betting the overall feel and almost all of the results will be pretty much the same, but since they came some time apart, maybe they present some other diffs. Maybe faster AF, or shorter shutter lag - I understand they have diff shutters. So, any hands-on experience on both cameras? Second to that, is there any source of info on shutter lag for the MZ-3 and MZ-5? Any comments on the MZ-3? Boz's site shows it to be slightly diff from the MZ-5 in form of grip, so maybe it's significantly better than the MZ-5 - I did have one MZ-5 for a time so I'm using it as reference. IIRC, the MZ-3 was the final incarnation of the MZ-5/MZ-5n series, with incremental improvements in every model. It was initially only available in Japan (fueling a thriving trade in grey-market imports). [I know the MZ-S was a later, higher-specced camera, but that was in a very different body; the MZ-3 is very similar in appearance to a MZ-5] I'd be very surprised if the MZ-3 wasn't at least as good as a MZ-5n on every scale of measurement, and significantly better in some areas. For what I remember and read in Bojidar's site, the MZ-3 is a MZ-5n with 1/4000 top speed instead of 1/2000 (the MZ-5n, which I own does have DoF preview) http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/index.html Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stef
Sasha, It's a very nice job. I am curious, however, if it was a posed shot, or it was taken in dynamics, i.e. while she was dancing. Either is perferctly fine, it's just my curiousity. If you are curious to find out why I am asking: It follows multiple discussions on relation between the dance and photography that I've had over the last few years, certain aspects that I've learned and figured out. The big caveat is that now, I am trying to extrapolate it to a very different dance. With that, my educated guess is that she was not dancing when this shot was taken At most, she may have beem moving specifically into that pose, but more likely than not, she was not moving, but just posing in a static pose. Now, I am curious to see if my guess was correct.o Cheers, Igor On 11-09-14 1:50 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: Comments are very welcome. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dM57FDPp4MiAe1OmIOcyEFqTO0pzBLUsAIQ-VSzvgHs?feat=directlink --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stef
On 9/14/2011 12:50 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: Comments are very welcome. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dM57FDPp4MiAe1OmIOcyEFqTO0pzBLUsAIQ-VSzvgHs?feat=directlink --Sasha If your aim was to jam a thumb in my eye with respect to my photographic skills and the general decline of my physique -- well done, sir! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
Does anybody have a photo of where the mirror lock-up is on the model that says 6x7 (not 67) on it? I can't make it out in copies of the manual that I have found so far. In lieu of a photo a description of where on the camera it can be found and what it looks like, please! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW88 - Lisa Bona
Thanks Larry, I see your point. I haven´t used HDR, but the light on her face was difficult. I had to lighten it up a bit and on another screen I see that it is a bit flat. Apart from that I liked the hostile look and almost empty street. DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 13. sep. 2011 kl. 00.16 skrev Larry Colen: On 9/12/2011 2:26 PM, DagT wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA15mm, 1/40s, f/8.0, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ Interesting shot, do you have some HDR going on there? The alcove with the ATM and Lisa looks almost HDRed but the street doesn't. It seems almost like two disjoint photos, the girl is a lot more interesting, to me, than the empty street. I see two possible crops that I'd try, one is a square crop of just the left side, maybe including some of the cobbled sidewalk. Another would be a crop in a similar aspect ratio cutting off the top and the right side probably just to the left of the stoplight. You may be trying to juxtapose the pretty girl with the chubby guy walking away, but I don't think he's a strong enough element to work as a counterpoint. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW88 - Lisa Bona
Yup, and with a 15mm she wasn´t far away :-) DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 13. sep. 2011 kl. 04.13 skrev Christine Aguila: Love the woman's edgy expression! Cheers, Christine On Sep 12, 2011, at 4:26 PM, DagT wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA15mm, 1/40s, f/8.0, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
On 9/15/2011 4:13 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Does anybody have a photo of where the mirror lock-up is on the model that says 6x7 (not 67) on it? I can't make it out in copies of the manual that I have found so far. In lieu of a photo a description of where on the camera it can be found and what it looks like, please! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I found this description in a forum. Hope it helps: http://www.apug.org/forums/viewpost.php?p=923775 Look at the two vertical surfaces either side of the lens base. One side has a horizontal sliding switch to release the lens. The other side has a vertical travel switch to release the mirror. The mirror returns when the shutter is tripped. So, two sliding releases and you have the MLU version. The mirror only moves if the shutter is cocked. Load the camera with film and cock the shutter. Cocking the shutter without film is too hard to explain. PS: If the body says Pentax 67, it's MLU. If it says Pentax 6x7 you have to look for the MLU release. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: For what I remember and read in Bojidar's site, the MZ-3 is a MZ-5n with 1/4000 top speed instead of 1/2000 (the MZ-5n, which I own does have DoF preview) http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/index.html Correct. The only difference between the two cameras is the tuning of the shutter. Then, in order to differentiate them a bit more, Pentax equipped the MZ-3 with the data back as standard, while the MZ-5n had it optional. This is true for most markets, but I won't be surprised to see that somewhere the MZ-5n was sold with the data back, and/or the MZ-3 without it. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
Thank you Walt! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 9/15/2011 9:45 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Yep. Misspoke. Meant kerning. Thanks. Is that something they do down in Bakersfield? (which is in Kern County, for those not familiar with California Geography) Leading, on the other hand, is done in Galena. Not Leadville, Colorado? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
it starts here: I need some input from The Collective as to what pitfalls to look for in the purchase of a Pentax 67 kit. I'm not terribly familiar with them. Where are the battery compartments (to check for corrosion)? What else can go wrong with a camera like this that has set unused for a long time? I need this like a hole in the head, but it is in truly MINT condition (passed stickers still on everything in original cases). It is an original model 67 with TTL pentaprism finder. 105mm f2.4 55mm f4 135mm f4 Pentax 67 extension tube set Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska Darren, it is a good camera in any case. Worked some time with one older model, did miss the mirror lock but otherwise loved the camera. I'd take a look at the shutter curtains, timing (shutter speeds) and flash sync. Battery goes under, in front of the tripod socket - and the compartment and cover should be clean. Found this link to its manual: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/pentax/pentax_67/pentax_67.htm Good luck with the kit - but find a proper bag, that's a good amount of camera gear, rather heavy. -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The End
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14219874 Still processing Paul McCartney concert photos from last summer. The song being sung is The End from Abbey Road. This shot is literally THE END of the concert, the last note played and last word sung, which was Yeah having been preceeded by many other 'yeahs'. The preceding line being: And in the end The love you take Is equal to the love you make. A truism in my book. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?
On 9/15/2011 4:38 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Thank you Walt! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska Anytime, Darren. I'm just glad it was helpful. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: For what I remember and read in Bojidar's site, the MZ-3 is a MZ-5n with 1/4000 top speed instead of 1/2000 (the MZ-5n, which I own does have DoF preview) http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/film_MZ-ZX/index.html I used to have the MZ-5n currently an MZ-3. That--for me--is the only difference between the 5n the 3; I do not seem to see any performance difference between the two. I never used the MZ-5 though so I cannot speak for it in comparison with the latter models. I used the MZ-5n extensively just before shifting to DSLRs, so it was quite beat up (the pop up flash spring is gone for one...something chronic, it seems, with MZs and I remember using it only once) but I sold it when a used MZ-3 came my way. Cheers! -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The End
If that music means something to you, and you haven't seen this juggling routine, then trust me, you need to: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-668651321510545442#docid=2675288643570973419 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14219874 Still processing Paul McCartney concert photos from last summer. The song being sung is The End from Abbey Road. This shot is literally THE END of the concert, the last note played and last word sung, which was Yeah having been preceeded by many other 'yeahs'. The preceding line being: And in the end The love you take Is equal to the love you make. A truism in my book. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2011 - 123 - GDG
Nice Dave On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Been a bit too busy to get much done photographically of late, but I did spend time to work out my scanning settings with the second test roll of XP2 I put through the Leica M4-2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6149025155/in/set-72157625672485865/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6149025155/in/set-72157625672485865/ (oJack, you're immortalized. ;-) I chose to experiment with Vuescan scanning settings on this negative as it is a difficult negative .. the background is nearly completely blocked up, the foreground is underexposed. It expresses the whole range of tonal values. After four configuration tries, I arrived at a set of settings that produces results I'm pleased with, even with this extreme negative. I'll go back and apply them to the rest of the roll ... I had Vuescan capture to DNG encapsulated TIFF files and also output a set of raw uncorrected files, so I can re-process without having to run the film through the scanner again ... and then I'll have another gallery to post. thots: - Film is a lot more work than digital ... - This little Skopar 35mm f/2.5 is a superb lens. enjoy! comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- PESO 2011 Set on Flickr to date: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157625672485865/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
Well done Dave On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:24 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nice Clean Rooms
What happened to the by the day/week or hour sign.:-) Motel with a Bell box, how many of these did i stay in over 35 years.:-) Dave On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:24 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm finally back. New hard drive in an old laptop, but hey, it's working! I loaded an old PS 7.0 that I had hanging around, and we're off to the races! There used to be lots of these roadside motels around the outskirts of Toronto (this one's near Port Credit) but they're fast disappearing. The rendering is a bit dark, because it was around dusk. I wanted it this way: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/nice-clean-rooms.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Nice to be back! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal On 9/15/2011 9:39 AM, Ken Waller wrote: Nice capture knarF ! I wish the background was a little more out of focus. Out of focus is a bourgeois concept. Its also over rated. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Monarch's Meal The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations On 9/15/2011 9:45 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Yep. Misspoke. Meant kerning. Thanks. Is that something they do down in Bakersfield? Isn't kerning where you pull your upper lip up over your nose. (which is in Kern County, for those not familiar with California Geography) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?
whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday - misc stuff
This is the list of things I have left from my friend's collection I've been asked to sell save me from having to write up stuff on ebay make me an offer he can't refuse! Every thing is in excellent stuff - he took very good care of it. Doesn't matter what camera brand you are shooting - he had a dark side camera. The flash is a a Canon but I'd guess it could be used on others... Here is the list of what is left at this point... giving the guys where it is already Friday a head start here :-) Canon Speedlite 199A Flash and manual Extended Flash Cable for off-camera flash Canon Lens Extender FD 2x-A with leather carrying case. A set of three Vivitar Close-up lens rings with carrying case—55mm (Lens #’s 1, 2, and 4) Hoya Fog Filter (A) 58mm Hoya Fog Filter (B) 58mm Vivitar Split Field Close up lens adapter 55mm Tiffen 58mm to 55mm step down ring Leather carrying case for above adapters Tiffen 58mm Neutral Density Filter 0.6 Tiffen 58mm Neutral Density Filter 0.9 Tiffen 58mm 4 point 2mm Star Filter Tiffen Polarizer 58mm Filter Leather carrying case for above adapters Camera shutter release cable - 18 inch 55-52 mm step down lens ring ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
On 9/15/2011 19:13, David J Brooks wrote: Well done Dave Ditto - still adjusting to Frank the nature photographer ... ann On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:24 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The tltle is self-explanatory: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/monarchs-meal.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
On 9/15/2011 15:03, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Some years ago, 'Technology Review' changed fonts to Arial (I believe) and stopped hyphenating words, and left justified all columns instead of centering and padding lines to justify both left and right sides. I find this method more enjoyable and natural. MIT, who publishes the magazine, claimed it was technically better for the reader. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:36 AM, John Coylejco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . Any comments? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia I recently read something on line where the opinion was put forth that san serif fonts were fine / nice to read on line but that erif font's were easier to read in print - especially newsprint sized print. I tend to agree. Of course, I can't read 10 point in print without pain anyway :-) ann -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I hate comic sans. Chalkboard is slightly better, but it's still a silly font. As far as being an imitation goes, that's true of many, many fonts. Futura is an imitation of Helvetica, Futura predates Helvetica by about 25 years. (Arial is the imitation Helvetica.) Well then, Helvetica is an imitation of Futura:-). In truth, I can see that arial is closer to helvetica than is futura. My point is that many fonts differ only slightly from their bretheren. There are so many fonts available that choosing one over the other is usually just splitting hairs. I recently had to help write specs for a magazine redesign. Since i'm no font expert, I merely looked at what was used in the pubs that won awards. (The majority of mags use two fonts, with a san serif in headlines and a serif in body copy, with some playful switching here and there.) The resulting recommendation was adobe garamond pro and arial. They are, of course, totally different, so they're happy together -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?
From what I have read, but maybe misunderstood, it has multiple planes of focus and you can choose which one you want afterwards. It is kind of like one-shot focus stacking. The downside is that this reduces the number of pixels used in the final image quite dramatically, since a lot of the others are out of focus and get binned. it is an idea that is waiting for sensor technology to catch up before it is useful for photographers. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 16/09/2011, at 9:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal
On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO - Monarch's Meal On 9/15/2011 9:39 AM, Ken Waller wrote: Nice capture knarF ! I wish the background was a little more out of focus. Out of focus is a bourgeois concept. Its also over rated. And in my case over used. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?
That's mostly incorrect. The plenoptic cameras don't record images in the traditional way; what they record is far more like the mosaic image insect eyes see. Post processing converts the recorded data into a more typical view. One of the things the post-processing can do is recreate depth-of-field effects at an arbitrary plane of focus (including the sort of effect you get from a tilt lens, and even non-flat 'planes' of focus. Or, if you want, it can produce images with everything in focus. The downside of attempting to derive distance information (which is what you have to do to simulate depth-of-field), and all the other possible tricks, is that you will end up with significantly reduced resolution. As a ballpark figure, you're going to lose about one order of magnitude in pixel count - sometimes even more. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:15:00AM +1000, Paul Ewins wrote: From what I have read, but maybe misunderstood, it has multiple planes of focus and you can choose which one you want afterwards. It is kind of like one-shot focus stacking. The downside is that this reduces the number of pixels used in the final image quite dramatically, since a lot of the others are out of focus and get binned. it is an idea that is waiting for sensor technology to catch up before it is useful for photographers. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 16/09/2011, at 9:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?
It happens that there was a short article on this in the current Economist magazine: http://www.economist.com/node/21527019 stan On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:36 PM, John Francis wrote: That's mostly incorrect. The plenoptic cameras don't record images in the traditional way; what they record is far more like the mosaic image insect eyes see. Post processing converts the recorded data into a more typical view. One of the things the post-processing can do is recreate depth-of-field effects at an arbitrary plane of focus (including the sort of effect you get from a tilt lens, and even non-flat 'planes' of focus. Or, if you want, it can produce images with everything in focus. The downside of attempting to derive distance information (which is what you have to do to simulate depth-of-field), and all the other possible tricks, is that you will end up with significantly reduced resolution. As a ballpark figure, you're going to lose about one order of magnitude in pixel count - sometimes even more. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:15:00AM +1000, Paul Ewins wrote: From what I have read, but maybe misunderstood, it has multiple planes of focus and you can choose which one you want afterwards. It is kind of like one-shot focus stacking. The downside is that this reduces the number of pixels used in the final image quite dramatically, since a lot of the others are out of focus and get binned. it is an idea that is waiting for sensor technology to catch up before it is useful for photographers. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 16/09/2011, at 9:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?
My quick guess having looked at the article is that rather than simply recording the intensity of the light at each site on the sensor they can also get direction of the light ray. In other words, rather than an array of values they have an array of light vectors. Armed with the vectors, you can in principle extrapolate the behavior of the light rays and calculate what the light is doing in a focal volume rather than just a focal plane. It's like calculating the future positions of bodies in space by knowing the current positions AND velocities of each and using the equations of motion. Neat. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: It happens that there was a short article on this in the current Economist magazine: http://www.economist.com/node/21527019 stan On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:36 PM, John Francis wrote: That's mostly incorrect. The plenoptic cameras don't record images in the traditional way; what they record is far more like the mosaic image insect eyes see. Post processing converts the recorded data into a more typical view. One of the things the post-processing can do is recreate depth-of-field effects at an arbitrary plane of focus (including the sort of effect you get from a tilt lens, and even non-flat 'planes' of focus. Or, if you want, it can produce images with everything in focus. The downside of attempting to derive distance information (which is what you have to do to simulate depth-of-field), and all the other possible tricks, is that you will end up with significantly reduced resolution. As a ballpark figure, you're going to lose about one order of magnitude in pixel count - sometimes even more. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:15:00AM +1000, Paul Ewins wrote: From what I have read, but maybe misunderstood, it has multiple planes of focus and you can choose which one you want afterwards. It is kind of like one-shot focus stacking. The downside is that this reduces the number of pixels used in the final image quite dramatically, since a lot of the others are out of focus and get binned. it is an idea that is waiting for sensor technology to catch up before it is useful for photographers. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 16/09/2011, at 9:47 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Sounds like a wonderful opportunity for an experiment John. Arrange for half of the subscribers to receive the next issue with some other sans-serif, and the other half with a serif font. Record how many complaints you get about readability from each half of the list. I would expect that the final tally will be 3-2. I.e., 5 people will object, one or the other fonts will win. Meanwhile the other hundreds/thousands of subscribers will never notice nor care. Unless it is a typography journal . . . stan On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:36 AM, John Coyle wrote: Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . Any comments? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I hate comic sans. Chalkboard is slightly better, but it's still a silly font. As far as being an imitation goes, that's true of many, many fonts. Futura is an imitation of Helvetica, Futura predates Helvetica by about 25 years. (Arial is the imitation Helvetica.) Well then, Helvetica is an imitation of Futura:-). In truth, I can see that arial is closer to helvetica than is futura. My point is that many fonts differ only slightly from their bretheren. There are so many fonts available that choosing one over the other is usually just splitting hairs. I recently had to help write specs for a magazine redesign. Since i'm no font expert, I merely looked at what was used in the pubs that won awards. (The majority of mags use two fonts, with a san serif in headlines and a serif in body copy, with some playful switching here and there.) The resulting recommendation was adobe garamond pro and arial. They are, of course, totally different, so they're happy together -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations
Ann, I was a bit surprised by Mark's earlier comment that this attitude is more opinion than scientifically derived Truth, or words to that effect. I coulda' sworn that I had read a couple of articles on the topic in Human Factors or IEEE-SMC a few decades ago. I did a quick search, starting and ending with Wikipedia, and found that the apparent consensus is that there is no solid evidence one way or the other. stan On Sep 15, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 9/15/2011 15:03, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Some years ago, 'Technology Review' changed fonts to Arial (I believe) and stopped hyphenating words, and left justified all columns instead of centering and padding lines to justify both left and right sides. I find this method more enjoyable and natural. MIT, who publishes the magazine, claimed it was technically better for the reader. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:36 AM, John Coylejco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Interesting discussion: a journal I edit has just been criticised for using a sans-serif font (Arial 10-point) as body text. My reaction was that it's a modern-looking, clean and easy-to-read font . Any comments? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia I recently read something on line where the opinion was put forth that san serif fonts were fine / nice to read on line but that erif font's were easier to read in print - especially newsprint sized print. I tend to agree. Of course, I can't read 10 point in print without pain anyway :-) ann -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I hate comic sans. Chalkboard is slightly better, but it's still a silly font. As far as being an imitation goes, that's true of many, many fonts. Futura is an imitation of Helvetica, Futura predates Helvetica by about 25 years. (Arial is the imitation Helvetica.) Well then, Helvetica is an imitation of Futura:-). In truth, I can see that arial is closer to helvetica than is futura. My point is that many fonts differ only slightly from their bretheren. There are so many fonts available that choosing one over the other is usually just splitting hairs. I recently had to help write specs for a magazine redesign. Since i'm no font expert, I merely looked at what was used in the pubs that won awards. (The majority of mags use two fonts, with a san serif in headlines and a serif in body copy, with some playful switching here and there.) The resulting recommendation was adobe garamond pro and arial. They are, of course, totally different, so they're happy together -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
