Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread Igor Roshchin


I'd say, it is not just a good deal, - rather it's a daylight robbery! :-)
Larry, tell us, how did you manage it? Did you torture the store owner
into submission (e.g. by reading him quotes from the PDML annual
some PDML pan threads)?

Take some good photos with it, Larry!

Cheers,

Igor


Sat Jul 7 19:23:09 EDT 2012
Stan Halpin wrote:

 Congratulations! Sounds like a good deal. Use it in good health.
 
 stan
 
 On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
 
  Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
  80-200/2.8
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RE: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread Bob W
Nice light, well handled. Good echo with the guy on the bike in the
middle-ground

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 Sent: 08 July 2012 05:16
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 Subject: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away
 
 Hi!
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/peso-2012-28-take-me-
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 Please be brutal and honest.
 
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Re: The Online Photographer asks; Is color printing easier now?

2012-07-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 8 July 2012 11:03, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:
 My biggest challenge was getting the plastic print drums absolutely clean 
 between procedures. As I recall, it involved ammonia, detergent, my bathtub, 
 and a rinse in Orbit bath to get the drums totally clean.

Jeffery,

You do realise that ammonia is a fogging agent, don't you.  How did
you ever manage to keep it from contaminating your unprocessed
materials?

When I was 20 I worked in a lab that did both photographic services
and diazo printing, which developed in ammonia fumes.  You couldn't
move from the dyline area to another without a thorough hand
scrubbing, lest all your subsequent work would be spoiled, and any
contaminated chemistry would need to be ditched.  Even just handling a
finished dyeline print would contaminate your hands for other
photographic processes.

I wouldn't have any ammonia product in the same room as photographic
film or paper.

Personally
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RE: PESO the root of the problem

2012-07-08 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Ann Sanfedele
 
 One of those small bent pipes is for gas... I know because the con ed
 guy told me one had been cut my accident..  not sure about the other,
 not very knowledgeable about this sort of thing.
 
 The problem with brick is, I image, it's ease of being eroded -
 especially the mortar, I'd think.  but it doesn't rust anyway :-)
 

Many people over here still get water supplied through Victorian lead pipes.
My house is on a shared pipe coming from the mains, and the stop cock is in
my kitchen, so I effectively control my neighbour's water supply. 

I didn't fully realise this until earlier in the year when I was having work
done in the house. The builders ripped out the old kitchen and revealed a
lead pipe coming up through my kitchen floor, through my wall and into the
neighbour's house. 

Her husband died of Alzheimer's a few years ago, and I wonder if it had
anything to do with drinking water from lead pipes. Anyway, when I
investigated further I was assured that the pipes are so old that they are
furred inside with limescale - London water is notoriously hard - and quite
safe.

B

 I'm not crazy about my photo, but I was intrigued by the subject..
 had to lighten the shadows up too much in elements so you could see the
 thing.
 
 Odd thing, the area didn't smell - for which I was grateful..
 
 ann
 
 On 7/7/2012 18:04, Mark C wrote:
  On 7/5/2012 11:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  for those of you following the sinkhole saga I took this one
  yesterday
 
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-
 that/21
  847075_D88Ngw/1/1947975432_sbsx5wg/Large
 
 
  If you have no idea what I'm talking about, backup a couple of shots
  in that gallery of mine
 
  this, in the middle of a serious labor dispute between the utilities
  company and the workers. The workers got locked out by the company
  and the management is manning this work, it appears - but also have
  hired outsiders.
 
  I was sort of fascinated by the decaying infrastructure and a bit
  concerned, as well, as this is only about 100  yards down the street
  from my building.
 
  ann
 
  Never thought about brick pipes - but it lasted 100 years so it can't
  be all bad! Interesting image. The smaller bent pipes are what? Water
 pipes?
 
  Mark
 
 
 
 
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RE: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Paul Stenquist
 
 Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg
 

Wonderful shot - love it!

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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:


Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg





A wonderful summer shot.  You caught a great moment of enjoyment.


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Re: PESO - Toby

2012-07-08 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

Toby is a bike messenger here in Toronto. I think he has a very  
interesting face. This isn't the sharpest portrait ever, but I  
rather like it:


 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html?m=1

Hope you do as well. Comments always appreciated.



Sharpness seems fine to me.  It's an appealing portrait and he seems  
quite at ease.


I like it!



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Re: PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!

2012-07-08 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:


Yesterday I posted a black and white portrait of my friend Toby, a
local bike messenger.  I did a colour version today which I like a lot
more:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby-in-living-colour.html

By way of comparision, here's the BW version:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html

What think you?  Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.



Yeah, I like that too.  I don't really prefer one more than the other  
- both are excellent, although I did notice the neck tattoo more in  
the colour version - not sure that's a good thing.




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Re: Peso: Dying Magnolias

2012-07-08 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:


I missed the peak of the magnolia trees (WL has some 50 footers) but
here are some shots with the Q.  I was fairly pleased with the
highlights given the bright sunlight.
http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-nrLhpBv/0/L/magnolia-2-L.jpg
http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-Hnx5Nb2/0/L/magnolia-3-L.jpg



I like the first one especially.  The texture in the rightmost petal  
has been extremely well captured.


I probably would have got rid of the small insects and bugger reality!




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Re: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian

2012-07-08 Thread Bong Manayon
Igor,

TFS!

Bong

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 While looking for something completely different, I came across
 this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576index=10

 There are some interesting (indeed psychedelic) photos there. I thought some
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Re: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Boris,

I like the concept, but the crop bisecting the rider doesn't work for me, given 
the open area at frame left.
Paul
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 Hi!
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/peso-2012-28-take-me-away.html
 
 Please be brutal and honest.
 
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Re: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread Bulent Celasun
Nicely handled high contrast scene.
The lady forming part of the frame did not hurt me at all.

Was Gaia around?!!

Bulent
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 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/peso-2012-28-take-me-away.html

 Please be brutal and honest.

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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)
It seemed like a good deal, but with just my phone it's hard to research.  I 
tried calling John, but he was out.  I've got no idea what the lens is worth. 

Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:



I'd say, it is not just a good deal, - rather it's a daylight robbery!
:-)
Larry, tell us, how did you manage it? Did you torture the store owner
into submission (e.g. by reading him quotes from the PDML annual
some PDML pan threads)?

Take some good photos with it, Larry!

Cheers,

Igor


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Stan Halpin wrote:

 Congratulations! Sounds like a good deal. Use it in good health.
 
 stan
 
 On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:
 
  Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
  80-200/2.8
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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread Mat Maessen
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Larry Colen (On Droid4est)
l...@red4est.com wrote:
 It seemed like a good deal, but with just my phone it's hard to research.  I 
 tried calling
 John, but he was out.  I've got no idea what the lens is worth.

I remember paying quite a bit more for the one I have when I bought it
a few years back...

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Re: BOOK - Ways Together - GDG

2012-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Christine!

Godfrey

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 Big, big congrats, Godfrey--and a forward by Brooks Jensen!   Big congrats 
 there too!  Hope your reception is a big success.

 Cheers, Christine

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 A new post is now available on my blog  ...

 http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-book-the-announcement-the-invitation

 featuring:

 Ways Together

 My new photo book now available from Blurb.com in hardback and paperback 
 editions.
 With a foreword by Brooks Jensen, Editor, LensWork Publishing.

 Visit my Blurb.com bookstore for a full preview:  
 http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto

 -

 You are invited to attend a reception and book signing event at

 ModernBook Gallery
 49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA

 August 2nd, 2012 from 5:30 to 7:30 pm

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Re: da book

2012-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My copy arrived yesterday as well. Bravo, Mark! and all the PDMLers
who participated! I'll have time today to go through it in detail but
I can see from even a quick skim through this morning that it's a
grand piece!

Godfrey

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 My present arrived today :-)

 seeing it online doesn't hold a candle to the print version - well actually,
 looking at the version on line is like seeing something in candle light...
 on my monitor anyway.

 - and I certainly missed a couple of important things.. one of which may
 remain a secret except from the 4 other poeple.  I mean I did aspire to the
 quote page but.. but...

 Ok, enough of that.

 Book looks great and I was really touched that one fine photographer
 with the initials GG was feeling flush and generous ans surprised me with
 it.

 Great job, Mark - and I may even forgive you ;-)

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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread Igor Roshchin


I didn't know that there was a non-Pro version (just ATX, not ATX
PRO).
The Pro (AT-X 828 AF PRO) version would be a great steal (that's why I
called  it a robbery [in the reverse sense].
I don't know the regular version, but it still sounds like a good deal.
(You can read this review:
http://bodzashphotoastro.blogspot.com/2010/11/in-depth-review-tokina-80-200-f28-at-x.html
)
Price-wise, on ebay, ATX Pro goes somewhere in the $400-500 range; 
I would guess that the ATX would go for something near $200.

PS. It seems like there might be a non-AF version of ATX, - I have no
idea about that.

Igor


Sun Jul 8 08:58:06 EDT 2012
Larry Colen (On Droid4est) wrote:

 It seemed like a good deal, but with just my phone it's hard to
 research.  I tried calling John, but he was out.  I've got no idea what
 the lens is worth. 
 
 Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote:
 
 
 
 I'd say, it is not just a good deal, - rather it's a daylight robbery!
 :-)
 Larry, tell us, how did you manage it? Did you torture the store owner
 into submission (e.g. by reading him quotes from the PDML annual
 some PDML pan threads)?
 
 Take some good photos with it, Larry!
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Fantastic!  The primary colors, direction of water spray, position of hands and 
kids all great.  And excellent texture of the water spray.  Great shot, Paul!  
Cheers, Christine



On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today. 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg
 
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Re: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
I agree with Paul!  Cheers, Christien


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 Hi Boris,
 
 I like the concept, but the crop bisecting the rider doesn't work for me, 
 given the open area at frame left.
 Paul
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 Hi!
 
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Re: PESO - Toby, in Living Colour!

2012-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
I prefer the black and white.  Cheers, Christine


On Jul 7, 2012, at 9:05 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 Yesterday I posted a black and white portrait of my friend Toby, a
 local bike messenger.  I did a colour version today which I like a lot
 more:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby-in-living-colour.html
 
 By way of comparision, here's the BW version:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html
 
 What think you?  Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.
 
 cheers,
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Re: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian

2012-07-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Very cool. Thank you, Igor!

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 While looking for something completely different, I came across
 this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576index=10

 There are some interesting (indeed psychedelic) photos there. I thought
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Re: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/8/2012 06:55, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Hi Boris,

I like the concept, but the crop bisecting the rider doesn't work for me, given 
the open area at frame left.
Paul


I see Paul's point. Basically, I like most the juxtaposition with the 
bike in the back and the street sign arrow, tne light and contrast - 
wondering if there was some element to the right that was distracting
or if the grab was full frame and nothing was cropped at all. a slight 
adjustment would straighten the pole in the background but that might be

problimatical. Hope this helps, Boris  - overall it'ts a fun grab.

ann



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Hi!

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Please be brutal and honest.

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Re: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian

2012-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for posting.  I'll have a look later.  Looks interesting though.  
Cheers, Christine


On Jul 7, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 
 While looking for something completely different, I came across
 this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576index=10
 
 There are some interesting (indeed psychedelic) photos there. I thought some
 PEMLers might be interested to look at this gallery.
 
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RE: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Big thumbs up! 

Love it just as is. Wonderful grab.

Cheers,
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Subject: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/peso-2012-28-take-me-away.html

Please be brutal and honest.

Boris

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RE: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina 80-200/2.8


If it's the auto-focus version, that's a damn good price.

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Re: PAW130 - Fee Sun --

2012-07-08 Thread DagT
Thanks frank, Dan and Christine!

DagT

Den 2. juli 2012 kl. 04:42 skrev knarftheria...@gmail.com:

 Love it! Like most of your photos I don't know why, I just do...
 
 ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
 
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 From: DagT li...@thrane.name
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 Subject: PAW130 - Fee Sun --
 
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K-5, DA15mm, 1/10s, f/7.1, ISO100.
 
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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


It seemed like a good deal, but with just my phone it's hard to
research.  I tried calling John, but he was out.  I've got no idea
what the lens is worth.



More than you paid for it belike.

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Re: Boris Peso #28 - Take me away

2012-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
I like that image.
I want to see more of the pretty girl and
the crop intinsifies this feeling.
Attention is focused on the graceful foot.
Good catch (is she texting?!! on a motor bike?!!)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/07/peso-2012-28-take-me-away.html

 Please be brutal and honest.

 Boris

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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Love that photo, very dynamic!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg

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Two exhibitions

2012-07-08 Thread Bob W
A couple of interesting photo exhibitions coming up in London:

Salgado at the East Wing of Somerset House from 12 July to 18 August. The
East Wing is turning into an interesting venue for photo exhibitions.
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/aboutkings/worldwide/global/brazilinstitute/NewsEvents
/Events/Forthcomingevents/Sebasti%C3%A3oSalgado.aspx


Another London, at Tate Britain from 27 July to 16 September 'explores the
ways photographers for whom London was a foreign city saw and represented
the subject'. Photographers featured include Brandt, Cartier-Bresson,
Davidson, Erwitt, Frank, Luskacova, Maar, Penn and Ronis

http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/exhibition/another-london

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Re: PESO - Muted Swan

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Mark!

It was just near the end of the golden hour, those few minutes when the light 
is at its best. I had all but given up getting even one keeper when I saw the 
swans close to the shore. They spent 3/4 of the time with their heads under 
water, feeding, so when they came up for air I had to act fast. Of the ten or 
twelve frames I took, that one worked.

Thanks to all who commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
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Subject: Re: PESO - Muted Swan

On 7/6/2012 7:49 AM, frank theriault wrote:
 A slow day at the Lake last weekend, but just as I was about to leave,
 when the evening light was nice:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/muted-swan.html

 I haven't used my M200mm f4.0 much recently.  I'd forgotten that it's
 a sharp little lens!

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

Great light and great sharp image!

Mark


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Re: Two exhibitions

2012-07-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Ugh!  We left too soon!  Cheers, Christine


On Jul 8, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Bob W wrote:

 A couple of interesting photo exhibitions coming up in London:
 
 Salgado at the East Wing of Somerset House from 12 July to 18 August. The
 East Wing is turning into an interesting venue for photo exhibitions.
 http://www.kcl.ac.uk/aboutkings/worldwide/global/brazilinstitute/NewsEvents
 /Events/Forthcomingevents/Sebasti%C3%A3oSalgado.aspx
 
 
 Another London, at Tate Britain from 27 July to 16 September 'explores the
 ways photographers for whom London was a foreign city saw and represented
 the subject'. Photographers featured include Brandt, Cartier-Bresson,
 Davidson, Erwitt, Frank, Luskacova, Maar, Penn and Ronis
 
 http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/exhibition/another-london
 
 B
 
 
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RE: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's a great shot, Paul! A few decades ago it would have been kids opening a 
fire hydrant. 

This is a lot safer, and likely more fun.

Love it!

cheers,
frank

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Subject: PESO - Cool Down

Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg

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Re: Peso: Dying Magnolias

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Those are gorgeous, Steve!

cheers,
frank 

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From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
Sent: July 8, 2012 7/8/12
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Subject: Re: Peso: Dying Magnolias

Quoting Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:

 I missed the peak of the magnolia trees (WL has some 50 footers) but
 here are some shots with the Q.  I was fairly pleased with the
 highlights given the bright sunlight.
 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-nrLhpBv/0/L/magnolia-2-L.jpg
 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-Hnx5Nb2/0/L/magnolia-3-L.jpg


I like the first one especially.  The texture in the rightmost petal  
has been extremely well captured.

I probably would have got rid of the small insects and bugger reality!




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RE: Two exhibitions

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Both look great!

cheers,
frank 

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Sent: July 8, 2012 7/8/12
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Two exhibitions

A couple of interesting photo exhibitions coming up in London:

Salgado at the East Wing of Somerset House from 12 July to 18 August. The
East Wing is turning into an interesting venue for photo exhibitions.
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/aboutkings/worldwide/global/brazilinstitute/NewsEvents
/Events/Forthcomingevents/Sebasti%C3%A3oSalgado.aspx


Another London, at Tate Britain from 27 July to 16 September 'explores the
ways photographers for whom London was a foreign city saw and represented
the subject'. Photographers featured include Brandt, Cartier-Bresson,
Davidson, Erwitt, Frank, Luskacova, Maar, Penn and Ronis

http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/exhibition/another-london

B


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RE: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I've had the manual focus version of that lens for years and I really like it. 
It's pretty sharp for a zoom:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/good-morning-mr-grebe.html?m=1

My M 200mm f4.0 is a bit sharper, but not by much. 

I really like how fast it is, especially with my K10D only going up to iso 
1600. In the dusk that extra stop and a half really comes in handy.

Decent bokeh, too.

Major drawback is its size and weight, but that's the tradeoff for speed, I 
guess.

Wish mine were AF. I envy you for that.

;-)

Great price you paid for an excellent lens. You ~had~ to buy it!

cheers,
frank 

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Subject: I was a bad boy

Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina 80-200/2.8
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Re: PESO - Toby

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Brian, Dan, Christine, Steve and everyone else who looked, thanks! 

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO - Toby


Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

 Toby is a bike messenger here in Toronto. I think he has a very  
 interesting face. This isn't the sharpest portrait ever, but I  
 rather like it:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html?m=1

 Hope you do as well. Comments always appreciated.


Sharpness seems fine to me.  It's an appealing portrait and he seems  
quite at ease.

I like it!



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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-08 Thread Mark C

Glad that I could help.

There are two basic formulas that can help with macro work. You probably 
know them but if not - the first is that when you put a lens on 
extension the magnification equals the extension divided by the lens's 
focal length. So a 100mm lens on 200mm of extension = 2x lifesize 
magnification.


There is a somewhat complicated formula to estimate the working 
distance, but you can approximate working distance by dividing the lens 
focal length by magnification. SO a 100mm lens on 200mm of extension 
would have a working distance of 50mm. A 50mm lens on 200mm of extension 
would have a magnification of 4x and a working distance of 12.5mm (50 /4).


The formulas are approximate - they would work for a single element lens 
but that obviously not the case with a regular camera lens. But they 
would get you to a good approximation.


I have never found a good explanation of what is going on when you 
reverse mount a lens. After using reverse mounted lenses quite a bit, I 
can say that reversing the lens allows you to focus closer. It also 
seems like the subject to lens distance does not change as much as you'd 
expect when you reverse mount and change extension. But I've never 
learned the theory.


Apparently the D-FA is not using simple extension to help it focus more 
closely which is why it does not focus once the internal focusing 
mechanism is set beyond a certain point. I'm not sure what is going on 
there.


Mark


On 7/8/2012 12:09 AM, John Celio wrote:

Mark, this is exactly the response I was hoping for. Thank you *very*
much. I never would have thought the lens would be the part causing
the problem, nor that wider angle lenses would produce greater
magnification (though that kinda makes sense now that I think about
it). I will try it with my FA 50 (my only other small prime with an
aperture ring) right now.

Thanks,
John


On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM,  pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

That is basically the same setup that I use for my snow crystal shots,
except I use a 50mm lens reverse mounted. In fact, it is so simlar I
just now pulled it out of the closet, set it up and put my D-FA 100mm
macro on it. I have 300mm of extension (tubes and bellows) with the lens
reverse mounted at the end.

Your focusing problem lies in how how the D-FA 100 close focuses. I had
no problem getting a shot in focus when the lens was set to infinity,
and actually had ample working room. As I adjusted the lens's focusing
mechanism  I quickly was unable to get anything into focus. Obviously,
something about the internal focusing on the D-FA causes a problem with
it reverse mounted.

Focusing on a ruler, with the D-FA 100 at infinity, and using a full
frame 35mm film camera (also pulled from the closet), I saw 8 to 9 mm in
the view finder. SO I reckon it to be about 4x life sized. With the 50mm
I routinely use on this setup, the finder on the full frame camera shows
about 4 mm, so about 8x.

If you really want to get extreme get a short and fast lens and use it
on all that extension. A 24mm  on 300mm of extension would result in 16x
or so magnification. Set the lens to infinity or use one that does not
use internal focusing.

Regarding protecting the delicate rear element of the lens - put a short
extension tube on the rear lens mount. It will serve as a hood and also
offer some protection to the rear element. To help with focusing - set
up your rig in a dark place. Put a bright flashlight on the finder
(where your eye would go). It will project a little rectangle of light
that you can use to align your subject and get a sense of focusing
distance with (when the rectangle is sharp, you are in focus.)

Have fun -

Mark




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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 ... I have never found a good explanation of what is going on when you reverse
 mount a lens. After using reverse mounted lenses quite a bit, I can say that
 reversing the lens allows you to focus closer. It also seems like the
 subject to lens distance does not change as much as you'd expect when you
 reverse mount and change extension. But I've never learned the theory.

It's a matter of how reversing a multi-element lens re-positions the
lens' primary nodal point for light passing through the lens in the
reversed direction. Perfectly symmetrical designs will reposition the
primary nodal point symmetrically when the lens is reversed, but very
very few SLR lenses are perfectly symmetrical. Reversing the lens in
most cases  not only reversed the lens elements but adds some
extension due to migration of the primary nodal point. It's hard to
calculate the shift ...

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RE: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)
Manual focus, but in very nice shape.

John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: Larry Colen

 Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
80-200/2.8

If it's the auto-focus version, that's a damn good price.

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Re: My super-duper macro setup... that doesn't appear to work as hoped?

2012-07-08 Thread Anthony Farr
On 9 July 2012 03:25, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 I have never found a good explanation of what is going on when you reverse
 mount a lens. After using reverse mounted lenses quite a bit, I can say that
 reversing the lens allows you to focus closer. It also seems like the
 subject to lens distance does not change as much as you'd expect when you
 reverse mount and change extension. But I've never learned the theory.

If the lens is a symmetrical design without any floating or FREE
groups of elements then the formula works equally whether the lens is
mounted normally or reversed.  The purpose of reverse mounting in this
case is not to gain magnification, because it won't.  The theory
behind it is that a lens in regular, non-macro use is closer to the
focal plane than the subject plane and is best corrected for that
circumstance.  When you exceed 1:1 magnification the lens becomes
closer to the subject plane than the focal plane, and gets out of the
range for which it is best corrected.  Reverse mounting it goes some
way towards restoring its balance.  That is, it makes the plane of
focus on the rear element side nearer than the plane of focus on the
front element side, as it should be.

There's no cover-all formula for reverse-mounted non-symmetrical
lenses.  A telephoto lens is almost useless reversed.  Imagine putting
a negative dioptre filter in front of your lens.  It defeats the
purpose of photomacrography and is often impossible because the
subject plane falls inside the lens.  But reverse mounted wide-angle
lenses are famously effective.  Keep in mind that, at least in SLR
mounts, they were originally known as inverted telephoto lenses and
are best corrected for large reductions.  Reverse mount one of those
and you have a true telephoto (but still of short focal length) that's
best corrected for large magnifications.

regards, Anthony

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RE: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread Larry Colen (On Droid4est)
It is manual focus.  I don't think I said autofocus, it is an A, as in auto 
exposure.
II Tokina AT-X  SD  80-200  1:2.8

Maybe not quite the steal it would be iif AF, but a lot faster than my 18-250, 
probably sharper too, and more versatile than my 200/2.8.  It also looks and 
feels brand new.

AF would be really nice, especially for SR,  but I expect it will be very handy 
for photographing musicians in bars.

knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I've had the manual focus version of that lens for years and I really
like it. It's pretty sharp for a zoom:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/good-morning-mr-grebe.html?m=1

My M 200mm f4.0 is a bit sharper, but not by much. 

I really like how fast it is, especially with my K10D only going up to
iso 1600. In the dusk that extra stop and a half really comes in handy.

Decent bokeh, too.

Major drawback is its size and weight, but that's the tradeoff for
speed, I guess.

Wish mine were AF. I envy you for that.

;-)

Great price you paid for an excellent lens. You ~had~ to buy it!

cheers,
frank 

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Subject: I was a bad boy

Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
80-200/2.8
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RE: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
No, you didn't say it was AF. Now that I review the thread I see that I misread 
a post by Igor which made me misaprehend the situation.

So I don't envy you autofocus. However my lens is a completely manual lens, so 
I envy you the A position on the aperture dial.

;-)

It is a nice lens and on your K5 it should be ideal for low-level bar lighting.

Can't wait to see your pix!

cheers,
frank 

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
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It is manual focus.  I don't think I said autofocus, it is an A, as in auto 
exposure.
II Tokina AT-X  SD  80-200  1:2.8

Maybe not quite the steal it would be iif AF, but a lot faster than my 18-250, 
probably sharper too, and more versatile than my 200/2.8.  It also looks and 
feels brand new.

AF would be really nice, especially for SR,  but I expect it will be very handy 
for photographing musicians in bars.

knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I've had the manual focus version of that lens for years and I really
like it. It's pretty sharp for a zoom:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/06/good-morning-mr-grebe.html?m=1

My M 200mm f4.0 is a bit sharper, but not by much. 

I really like how fast it is, especially with my K10D only going up to
iso 1600. In the dusk that extra stop and a half really comes in handy.

Decent bokeh, too.

Major drawback is its size and weight, but that's the tradeoff for
speed, I guess.

Wish mine were AF. I envy you for that.

;-)

Great price you paid for an excellent lens. You ~had~ to buy it!

cheers,
frank 

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Stopped by citizen's photo in portland.  $150 later I have a tokina
80-200/2.8
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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread Mark C

On 7/7/2012 9:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg


Great shot - lots of POW! in it, super dynamic.

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Rant about LR4 and related spin

2012-07-08 Thread Igor Roshchin

I just discovered that LR4 will not install on WinXP.
What a bummer! It means it won't install on my current desktop, and
it won't install on my wife's netbook.

But what I was pissed off much more is the spin that some people gave on
this decision.  One of them is Mr. Scott Kelby, editor and publisher of 
Photoshop User Magazine:
http://scottkelby.com/2012/lightroom-4-and-leaving-the-past-behind/

I understand what drives such decisions from the technical side. I just 
hate when people are trying to tell me that it is for my own benefit. 
Let me decide what is, and what is not...  
Afterall, we have different incentives. 

Oh, well...

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RE: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
His portraits and street photography (for lack of a better term - perhaps 
reportage?) are disturbing yet incredible. The photo of the young boy smoking 
is one of the best photos I think I've ever seen.

His psychedelic or mylar room photos I'm not so taken with but hey, he was 
obviously not afraid to push boundaries.

I've not heard of him before. Thanks for posting this and bringing home to our 
attention, Igor!

cheers,
frank 

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Subject: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian



While looking for something completely different, I came across
this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576index=10

There are some interesting (indeed psychedelic) photos there. I thought some
PEMLers might be interested to look at this gallery.

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Re: BOOK - Ways Together - GDG

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's very cool. Congratulations, Godfrey!

Thanks for the invitation but despite the offer of free wine I will be unable 
to attend. 

;-)

Here's wishing you a grand opening reception and healthy sales thereafter. You 
deserve both.

Cheers,
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Thanks Christine!

Godfrey

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 Big, big congrats, Godfrey--and a forward by Brooks Jensen!   Big congrats 
 there too!  Hope your reception is a big success.

 Cheers, Christine

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 A new post is now available on my blog  ...

 http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/the-book-the-announcement-the-invitation

 featuring:

 Ways Together

 My new photo book now available from Blurb.com in hardback and paperback 
 editions.
 With a foreword by Brooks Jensen, Editor, LensWork Publishing.

 Visit my Blurb.com bookstore for a full preview:  
 http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto

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 ModernBook Gallery
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 August 2nd, 2012 from 5:30 to 7:30 pm

 Signed and numbered copies will be available at the event.
 To reserve your copy for the event or to place an order for a signed and 
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Re: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian

2012-07-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Excellent.  I've never heard of him either.  OTOH, he's never heard of
Frank. ;-)

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 His portraits and street photography (for lack of a better term - perhaps 
 reportage?) are disturbing yet incredible. The photo of the young boy 
 smoking is one of the best photos I think I've ever seen.

 His psychedelic or mylar room photos I'm not so taken with but hey, he was 
 obviously not afraid to push boundaries.

 I've not heard of him before. Thanks for posting this and bringing home to 
 our attention, Igor!

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
 Sent: July 8, 2012 7/8/12
 To: PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian



 While looking for something completely different, I came across
 this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576index=10

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Re: PESO - Apothecary shop

2012-07-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Jack!  I actually had to do very little beyond a bit of straightening 
and cropping.

Rick

 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Apothecary shop

Extremely nice rendering, Rick!


Jack Davis
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
http://www.photolightimages.com


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Sent: Friday, July 6, 2012 5:19 AM
Subject: PESO - Apothecary shop

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16012212


(I love the subtle tonal gradations the K-5 can capture...)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO - Apothecary shop

2012-07-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Bob.  I played with that; more than a 1/3-stop change spoils the effect 
I want.


Rick

 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Apothecary shop

Rick,
Very good   I'll bet Lightroom can get a bit more out of the dark lower right.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16012212


 (I love the subtle tonal gradations the K-5 can capture...)

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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread Rick Womer
Exactly what Christine said!

Ummm... is there room under there for me?

Rick

 
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Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Cool Down

Fantastic!  The primary colors, direction of water spray, position of hands and 
kids all great.  And excellent texture of the water spray.  Great shot, Paul!  
Cheers, Christine



On Jul 7, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today. 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg
 
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PESOs (2) - Weaver

2012-07-08 Thread Rick Womer
This gentleman was both highly informative and very entertaining.  He got his 
first job in a South Carolina textile mill by lying about his age (14), and has 
spent his entire career in textiles.  After spending many years traveling the 
Southeast repairing weaving machinery, he retired to Colonial Williamsburg.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16046938

and 


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16046939



For photo.net-o-phobes:

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Williamsburg-June-2012/23885974_VkdzQG#!i=1953134543k=kPkhv4W

and

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Williamsburg-June-2012/23885974_VkdzQG#!i=1953134799k=sLmQPQk


Comments appreciated!

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Re: I was a bad boy

2012-07-08 Thread jn289
Larry, GOOD LUCK with your new lens. I have one of them, an early one 
that is not an A lens, but I seemed to have misplaced it. I remember 
I did like it. I will have to look for it now.. But I use  my newer 
(2009)  Simga  70-200 F2.8 AF  APO EX DG Macro lens a lot ,which I 
like a lot. Anyway I hope you enjoy your new lens..Joe





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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2012-07-08 Thread jn289

Paul, Very nice weather pic, Joe


Mid nineties fahrenheit temps again today.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16058672size=lg

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Re: PESO - Toby

2012-07-08 Thread jn289

Frank. Good eye contact with the subject(Toby)..Joe

Toby is a bike messenger here in Toronto. I think he has a very 
interesting face. This isn't the sharpest portrait ever, but I 
rather like it:


 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html?m=1

Hope you do as well. Comments always appreciated.

Cheers,
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RE:PESO - Muted Swan

2012-07-08 Thread jn289
Frank, Overall the lighting is nice, but me thinks I would not have 
cropped it so tight on the bottom. I would have liked to see the 
whole reflection in the water..Joe

P.S. Sorry for coming in so late on this



Thanks, Don, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

Glad you enjoyed!

cheers,
frank

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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: July 6, 2012 7/6/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE:PESO - Muted Swan

Yes sharp and well exposed as well catching the light nicely.




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 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 07:49:43 -0400
 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
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 Subject: PESO - Muted Swan
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 A slow day at the Lake last weekend, but just as I was about to leave,
 when the evening light was nice:

 
  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/muted-swan.html


 I haven't used my M200mm f4.0 much recently.  I'd forgotten that it's
 a sharp little lens!

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Apothecary shop

2012-07-08 Thread jn289

Very Nice Rick, The K5 does do a nice job..Joe


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16012212


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Re: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian

2012-07-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/8/2012 17:55, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Excellent.  I've never heard of him either.  OTOH, he's never heard of
Frank. ;-)
Well I knew his stuff, but had forgotten it - putting familiar name and 
some familiar photos together grows increasingly difficult.
(Light bulb moment when I looked here. and how could I forget?) Strong 
stuff.  Prefer it to the mylar stuff, too.  I probably saw him walking 
down the street in to 60's as well in Alphabet City.


ann




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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

His portraits and street photography (for lack of a better term - perhaps 
reportage?)

I think we call this photo journalism  ;-)


 are disturbing yet incredible. The photo of the young boy smoking is 
one of the best photos I think I've ever seen.


His psychedelic or mylar room photos I'm not so taken with but hey, he was 
obviously not afraid to push boundaries.

I've not heard of him before. Thanks for posting this and bringing home to our 
attention, Igor!

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
Sent: July 8, 2012 7/8/12
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: psychedelic photos by a pentaxian



While looking for something completely different, I came across
this gallery by Ira Cohen (who, as it turns out, was using Spotmatic):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2011/may/13/ira-cohen-photography-in-pictures#/?picture=374553576index=10

There are some interesting (indeed psychedelic) photos there. I thought some
PEMLers might be interested to look at this gallery.

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Re: PDML Book update

2012-07-08 Thread Tim Bray
45? That’s shameful.  Ladies and gentlemen, buy one already, it’s our
best effort by a wide margin.

Plugged: https://plus.google.com/107606703558161507946/posts/boFmcUCUFzN
 Will add bloggage  tweetage later. -T

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 We've sold 45 copies so far, not including my 3 proof copies (and a
 bunch of ebooks as well). One of the final proof copies went to Dr.
 Carlos at Dana-Farber. Were at a picnic on Sunday (for the Children's
 Hospital Solid Tumor Service, if you must know) and Carlos and several
 other Dana-Farber people were there. Most of them had heard about the
 book and everyone who saw it was very impressed. General opinion
 seems to be that this is the best one yet so I'm hoping to push for a
 little more publicity this time out. We've been assigned out own
 official contact at Dana-Farber and I'd like to send a copy to her, as
 well as one or two copies to various media contacts. See if we can
 raise our profile a little, ya know?

 We've had a few donations to this end. Even five dollars would help;
 If you can kick in a couple of bucks
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/donate.htm is the place.

 Thanks!

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RE:PESO - Muted Swan

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Joe. I can't disagree with you, a bit more reflection would have been 
nice, but that's the bottom edge of the frame, so the error was made in the 
camera and is non-repairable.

Of the dozen or so frames that I took, that was by far the best. As I mentioned 
earlier in the thread, the swans spent most of the time with their heads under 
water feeding; I had a few seconds each time they came up for air to hope 
they'd give me a good pose.

That was actually the last or second last photo I took. After that the swans 
moved into the ever-lengthening shadows and I lost the light. The session was 
over.

So given all that I'm satisfied but there is certainly room for improvement. 
More reflection would be part of that.

Your comment is most appreciated. Thanks.

Cheers,
frank 

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 jn...@verizon.net
Sent: July 8, 2012 7/8/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE:PESO - Muted Swan

Frank, Overall the lighting is nice, but me thinks I would not have 
cropped it so tight on the bottom. I would have liked to see the 
whole reflection in the water..Joe
P.S. Sorry for coming in so late on this


Thanks, Don, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

Glad you enjoyed!

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. 
-- Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: July 6, 2012 7/6/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE:PESO - Muted Swan

Yes sharp and well exposed as well catching the light nicely.



  Message: 5
  Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 07:49:43 -0400
  From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO - Muted Swan
  Message-ID:
  CALoSNQK-yE-z=FRxrmCe=KDn+6SKEPKum+PDFc38-FVtZy=c...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

  A slow day at the Lake last weekend, but just as I was about to leave,
  when the evening light was nice:
  
   http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/07/muted-swan.html

  I haven't used my M200mm f4.0 much recently.  I'd forgotten that it's
  a sharp little lens!

  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

  cheers,
  frank

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Re: PESO - Toby

2012-07-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Joe!

cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO - Toby

Frank. Good eye contact with the subject(Toby)..Joe

Toby is a bike messenger here in Toronto. I think he has a very 
interesting face. This isn't the sharpest portrait ever, but I 
rather like it:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/toby.html?m=1

Hope you do as well. Comments always appreciated.

Cheers,
frank

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Lightroom and RAW vs DNG files

2012-07-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
I've been shooting RAW files with the K-5, then importing them into LR4.1.
I've been saving them as DNG's in LR.

So now I'm beginning to question what I'm doing.
The K-5 says I'm shooting RAW, not RAW+DNG.
I think LR3.? said on importing images that it converted them to DNG's.

Now I don't see that conversion noted when I use LR4.1.
Have I really got the RAW files I shot since buying the K-5 (or K-7 or K-20),
or have they all been compromised on import to Lightroom DNG's.

I'm getting confused in the discussions of back-up of files,
mainly because I'm importing all my images and not saving the raw RAW
files directly in Windows.
I think about doing the saving of raw RAW files when looking at the LR4.1.
I think I'm able to improve my old images in the shadows with the new software.
So am I saving the right type of files to keep the originals for
future upgrades.

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Lightroom and RAW vs DNG files

2012-07-08 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 10:29:19PM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 I've been shooting RAW files with the K-5, then importing them into LR4.1.
 I've been saving them as DNG's in LR.
 
 So now I'm beginning to question what I'm doing.
 The K-5 says I'm shooting RAW, not RAW+DNG.

The RAW format for the K-5 is DNG

There is no RAW+DNG.  There is a RAW+JPG


If you've made any changes to the file before saving them as DNGs, you
don't have any record of the as shot files directly from the camera.

 Have I really got the RAW files I shot since buying the K-5 (or K-7 or K-20),
 or have they all been compromised on import to Lightroom DNG's.

On the K-7  K-20 I believe you could choose either PEF or DNG as
the raw format.  I never owned those cameras, so I'm not 100% sure.


 I'm getting confused in the discussions of back-up of files,
 mainly because I'm importing all my images and not saving the raw RAW
 files directly in Windows.
 I think about doing the saving of raw RAW files when looking at the LR4.1.
 I think I'm able to improve my old images in the shadows with the new 
 software.
 So am I saving the right type of files to keep the originals for
 future upgrades.
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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Re: Lightroom and RAW vs DNG files

2012-07-08 Thread Peter Loveday

On the K-7  K-20 I believe you could choose either PEF or DNG as
the raw format.  I never owned those cameras, so I'm not 100% sure.


Yep.  As you can on the K-5.

- Peter


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Re: PESO Run!

2012-07-08 Thread Tim Bray
Oh, I love that, it's full of motion. -T

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Seen at the splash pad at the local (Mississauga) City Hall on a very
 hot evening last week ...

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7481443854/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/5.6, 1/250th, 200 ISO. Lr 4.1.

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Re: In the Heat of the Nite

2012-07-08 Thread Tim Bray
Yep, you got it.  Was in Saskatchewan for the last few days; similar
feelings but didn’t manage to catch ’em. -T

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 It has very hot in the midwest as everywhere else but I did manage to get
 out at dusk and try the Pentax 28mm. I think these convey the heat and
 humidity but we Iowans are tough.

 Do not look directly into the sun.







 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7508553958/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7497006286/

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That Book

2012-07-08 Thread Tim Bray
I got back from a few days in Saskatchewan to find a nice Blurb book
waiting for me, and as I read it I first thought I’d highlight my top
3, then top 5, then top 10. Anyhow, here are the notes.

First, this is the best-ever Annual.  To make it clear that I’m not
uncritical, let me say that I sort of hated last year’s, thought the
backgrounds were overworked and distracting.  The quality of 2011
photos is higher, and Mark's design mojo was on fire.  It’s a really
outstanding photo book.

Having said that, here are the ones that touched my heart.

19: Earth  Sky/Manayon. Actually a picture of a mountain (or a
building, or, uh, Bong, what’s the brown thing?)
21: Cathedral of Trees/Roberts. They’re having a conversation too
slow, graceful, and complex for us to follow.
33: Jumping at Ponte Sant’ Angelo/Lahuerta Ibiz. How in flaming hell
did this get staged?! I stared and stared.
37: Fly By/Waller. Probably the most technically dazzling shot in the
book. Miraculous.
38: Stowe Grotto/Mitchell.  They say photography is a two-dimensional
form. They’re wrong, as any fool can plainly see.
43: Waiting Offshore/Walters. The horizon not being smooth really
bothers me. I had to look and look and look and look. Make your own
theory.
46: Too Many Steps/Coyle. This is unsatisfactory, because it needs to
be printed 40 inches or so high.
51: .../Roschin. Actually a picture of blood vessels.
58: Playful Planes/Gjersem. You can’t not smile. And I don’t even like planes.
65: 6/Miserere. At least a thousand perfect details.
71: Eternal Vigilance/Cassino. Actually a picture of flowering trees.
72: Morning Calm/Theriault. No grain. No street people. No asphalt.
Can’t possibly be Frank. Fucking great picture though, whoever took
it.
73: Night at Sea/Thrane. Really unsatisfactory; needs to be printed at
least six feet wide.
75: At the Beach in Binz/Zahn. Actually a picture of clouds.
81: The Inspector/Brewer. What a real wizard looks like.
88: Lunch/Jeyon. Actually a picture of trees and stones.
91: The Bridge to Runde/Øksne: When I grow up I want to learn to take
pictures like this.
94: So happy that Mark used my favorite (not my best, my favorite)
Guo-Yuan-Snooker-Club picture.

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