Re: DA 40mm XS on full frame SLR

2013-04-02 Thread Steffen Zahn
Interesting. I thought that the XS lenses were not compatible with SLRs because 
there would be a collision with the mirror movement.

Steffen Zahn


Am 02.04.2013 um 01:51 schrieb Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:

 I recently stumbled on a Pz-1p at a good price and bought it - I doubt that 
 I'll use it much but it is a great camera and I do still shoot film. Took it 
 out to test and tried the DA 40mm XR that came with the K-01 on it, just to 
 see how it looked. I tried this earlier on an MZ-S but since I could not 
 directly control the aperture I did not test it systematically.
 
 The DA 40mm XS works very well on the full frame 35mm film body! There is 
 noticeable light falloff at f2.8, noticeable enough to be objectionable, but 
 it is greatly diminished at f4 and more or less gone at f5.6 and beyond. For 
 an f8 and there lens it would be fine. Pretty remarkable considering the 
 small size (and thinness.)
 
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-04-02 Thread David Mann
On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Yeah, yours is a Banksia too, just a different species.
 
 botanical content
 Yours is Banksia integrifolia
 Mine is Banksia spinulosa
 /botanical content

Thanks, I might pass that to my wife although she probably already knows.  I 
just call it the bellbird tree :)

Cheers,
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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 1 April 2013 19:42, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of it, 
 today and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate Modern.

 Here are some snaps:
 Http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013

And here are mine. 2 even taken with a Pentax lens...
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/

Chris

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PESO 2013 - PDML London - GDG

2013-04-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The PDML Usual Suspects gather in a cold London on April Fools Day 2013...

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157633143667987/

Enjoy!

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Re: PESO: Bellbird

2013-04-02 Thread David Mann
On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Nice shot - good to see the bird in habitat, even if it's Australian habitat. 
  :-)
 
 I found a sound clip of its song - very beautiful.

One of the greatest sounds I've ever heard was when we had to stop for some 
road works when travelling north a couple of years ago.  We were in a small 
valley of native beech forest and there were dozens of bellbirds in the area 
feasting on honeydew while singing merrily.  We weren't in any hurry to get 
moving again.

I heard him this morning but he was gone before I even looked up.  I have the 
camera at the ready in case I see him again in good light.

Cheers,
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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/4/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:


And here are mine. 2 even taken with a Pentax lens...
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/

Love this one to bits

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/slides/DSCF0857.html



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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/4/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

Like it a lot Rick.

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The Holtermann exhibit - an amazing wet plate photo collection

2013-04-02 Thread Derby Chang


The State Gallery of NSW is hosting an outstanding show at the moment. 
Shame on me that I've only just now managed to visit.


Bernard Holtermann made it rich on the goldfields of NSW. He didn't 
actually dig up the enormous Holtermann nugget, but made sure his name 
as always associated with it.

http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/events/exhibitions/2013/holtermann/index.html

If you have 12min to spare, this is really worthwhile watching
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2013/s3722536.htm

I can't imagine handling 1.6m wet plate and setting up a camera on top 
of a tower to take a series of panoramas. They must have been manly men 
back then.


Humbly, I went off afterwards with a tiny m4/3 macro to do some pics. 
Not quite of the same manly calibre

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/04/eastermonday/index.html


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Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Derby Chang


Hi Jack

Others have been giving you good advice. Don't guess, you need to 
calibrate a printer profile, or at least use one of the canned profiles.


One other thing I've found, print and print often. My R1800 doesn't do 
too badly at BW, but leave it for a week or two, a few nozzles get 
clogged, and it throws my custom profiles way off, which is especially 
noticeable on BW. I was recently offered a R2400, which would do BW 
much more elegantly, but I had to turn it down, as much as I would like 
two printers. Couldn't justify the throughput.




On 2/04/2013 8:39 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

  I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having 
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. 
Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet 
and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
  I have proof of past BW successes which only serves to make me doubt 
myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO R1800 
(remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
  The only calibrating I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering images.
  I've given control to the printer and then turned down the available colors (only 
includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of minus 25. Get a grape blue. If I select no 
color control or photoshop elements manages color it's a shade of magenta.
I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a BW when I do. Color 
hasn't been a problem.
I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, always to get a 
BW done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when I need a print larger than 
13x 19.
  I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but I'd 
likely not be around long enough to use it up.
  If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that may 
help, please pass them along.

Thanks!

Jack




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Re: GESO - Honey Bees

2013-04-02 Thread Derby Chang
Gorgeous. Messy business that nector collecting, isn't it? I like how 
you get catchlights in the eyes




On 2/04/2013 10:46 AM, Mark C wrote:
Each spring I try to get some shots of honey bees (apis melifera) in 
crocus flowers - the first insect and flower combinations of the year. 
After an interesting trial with the Q and LED ring light, I switched 
over to a tried an true technique with K-5, macro lens and flash:


http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/ah-spring-2013

CC welcomed -

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RE: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of
it, today and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate
Modern.

Here are some snaps: Http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013

B


Nice. Just out of curiosity, did anyone actually happen to think to 
bring a Pentax camera?


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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 2 April 2013 12:09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Bob W

 The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of
 it, today and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate
 Modern.

 Here are some snaps: Http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013

 B


 Nice. Just out of curiosity, did anyone actually happen to think to bring a
 Pentax camera?
Just to maintain tradition, Bob had an MX in his bag and I had a
couple of Pentax lenses. I used the 28mm one to take the picture of
Godfrey and Felipe in front of the Tate Modern.

Chris

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Re: DA 40mm XS on full frame SLR

2013-04-02 Thread Mark C
I was not aware of that. I've used the XS on both an Mz-S and Pz-1p 
without problem. The first try on the Mz-S produced very good results, 
but that camera relies on using an aperture ring to shoot aperture 
priority so I did not do a systematic test. The Pz-1p controls are like 
the K-5, K-7, K-10 etc and have in body control of the aperture, so I 
was able to do a 'blue sky test walking through the apertures one 
setting at a time. I like the 40mm focal length much better on a full 
frame than APS.


Mark

On 4/2/2013 2:38 AM, Steffen Zahn wrote:

Interesting. I thought that the XS lenses were not compatible with SLRs because 
there would be a collision with the mirror movement.

Steffen Zahn





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Re: GESO - Honey Bees

2013-04-02 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Derby - and to everyone else who looked. They do look cute with 
those big eyes!


Mark

On 4/2/2013 5:56 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
Gorgeous. Messy business that nector collecting, isn't it? I like how 
you get catchlights in the eyes




On 2/04/2013 10:46 AM, Mark C wrote:
Each spring I try to get some shots of honey bees (apis melifera) in 
crocus flowers - the first insect and flower combinations of the 
year. After an interesting trial with the Q and LED ring light, I 
switched over to a tried an true technique with K-5, macro lens and 
flash:


http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/ah-spring-2013

CC welcomed -

Mark







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Re: DA 40mm XS on full frame SLR

2013-04-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Steffen Zahn z...@snafu.de wrote:

 Interesting. I thought that the XS lenses were not compatible with SLRs 
 because there would be a collision with the mirror movement.

At one point Pentax leaked a picture of an XS lens that looked like it
protruded into the camera body. That lens wasn't the 40 XS, though.
(They didn't identify what focal length or aperture it was, and it
still hasn't been released.)

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Re: PESO 2013 - PDML London - GDG

2013-04-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 gphoto/sets/72157633143667987/


Quite Nice!

It's good to see all the PDMLers, and I think the first image is a
great abstract.
Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - mailbox - interrupted pattern

2013-04-02 Thread George Sinos
Thanks Bruce.  In the square image I agree.  Things look cramped. gs
George Sinos

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On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's another vote for Bob's suggestion.

 On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 I agree with Bob.  More breathing space at the edges is needed.  Cheers, 
 Christine



 On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 That's an interesting shot. What I think it needs is for the locks on the
 outside to have more breathing space - more distance from the frame edge -
 and for the margin around the edge to be equal all round.

 B

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 Sent: 29 March 2013 16:55
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 Subject: PESO - mailbox - interrupted pattern

 I need a little feedback on this one. I'm not sure it's worth pursuing.

 http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/Misc-
 private/1804874_X84PMn#!i=2431403562k=nbGb2Bdlb=1s=A

 The lock on my mailbox broke and had to be replaced.  It struck me as
 something that could be used as an example of a broken pattern.

 I've played with it a bit and looked at it until I'm cross-eyed.  I
 can't tell if it's straight and level or a tiny bit crooked.  I'm also
 not sure about the composition.  The lock on box 7 is dead-center in
 the frame, I don't think I like that.  Maybe a rectangular crop
 eliminating the top row of boxes might look better.

 Is this worth the trouble to mess with or is it one of those camera
 club photos that no-one but a photographer would look at?

 Thanks for any input, gs.

 George Sinos
 
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As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread George Sinos
Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-double-digit-film-price-hike

At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of film.

gs

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Re: DA 40mm XS on full frame SLR

2013-04-02 Thread Zos Xavius
The 40XS has clearance for the mirror. Rice high posted samples from a 5dmk3 
and it didn't fully cover the frame. The corners were very soft. Of course on 
film  it might be better due to film handling oblique angles of light beter.

Steffen Zahn z...@snafu.de wrote:

Interesting. I thought that the XS lenses were not compatible with SLRs
because there would be a collision with the mirror movement.

Steffen Zahn


Am 02.04.2013 um 01:51 schrieb Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:

 I recently stumbled on a Pz-1p at a good price and bought it - I
doubt that I'll use it much but it is a great camera and I do still
shoot film. Took it out to test and tried the DA 40mm XR that came with
the K-01 on it, just to see how it looked. I tried this earlier on an
MZ-S but since I could not directly control the aperture I did not test
it systematically.
 
 The DA 40mm XS works very well on the full frame 35mm film body!
There is noticeable light falloff at f2.8, noticeable enough to be
objectionable, but it is greatly diminished at f4 and more or less gone
at f5.6 and beyond. For an f8 and there lens it would be fine. Pretty
remarkable considering the small size (and thinness.)
 
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Re: As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread Zos Xavius
Processing is far more expensive than the film itself.

Of course you can self develop black and whites pretty easily

George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-double-digit-film-price-hike

At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of
film.

gs

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Re: As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread Mark Roberts
George Sinos wrote:

Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-double-digit-film-price-hike

At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of film.

At some point? That's already the case. Has been for a long time.
Fuji Provia 400 professional was about $10.00 a roll when I last shot
motorsports with film. You can get (slow) 8GB cards for less than that
now.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8page=1rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Asd%20cards
 
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Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciated, Ann. I also save in Gray Scale.  
A calibration thing I suppose.(?) Am using Epson Ultra Premium Luster.
I may ask my wife if I'm allowed to buy a BW dedicated EPSON R3000. :-(

Jack

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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: Printing BW

When I do Black and white on the Epson v500 I have made a file that is 
in _saved in grayscale_... seems to me that problems with color cast 
I've had were a combination of the type of paper I was printing on and 
the profile.

get absolutely black and white prints if I print on epson matte paper.
I think I did pretty well with the high gloss Ilford that is akin to the
nice metallic paper

hi guys :-)

ann - just hopped in for a few mins


On 4/1/2013 21:28, Jack Davis wrote:
 Thanks again, Paul.

 Jack


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 I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't 
 have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the newer multi-black 
 printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you should be able to get acceptable 
 BW results with the 1800.

 You don't need or want access to the color controls in the printing 
 program.Turn off all color controls and adjust color in PhotoShop. Select 
 let photoshop control colors in your printing setup box. Use the Epson icc 
 profile for the premium luster paper. It's very accurate. Render your photo 
 as a grayscale image in PhotoShop, then convert it to whatever your PhotoShop 
 color space is set to. Prophoto RGB or Adobe 98 RGB for example.  If your 
 monitor calibration is accurate, the image in an RGB odor space should remain 
 BW with no color tint. Then print with photoshop controlling the color. You 
 may get a slight color case, but you should be pretty close to pure BW.
 On Apr 1, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks, Paul. When I chose Photoshop controls color I no longer have 
 access to color controls in the printing program. I'm absolutely satisfied 
 that the image to be printed is BW.
 I have a pro editor acquaintance to question on such things and he says he 
 does two things when it comes to printing BW. 1) Clean printer heads. 2) 
 Turn off all color controls. This person is now retired and working out of 
 his home. I understand he makes house calls. I have his business card and am 
 about ready to give him a call.

 Thanks!

 Jack


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 Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: Printing BW

 Good results are very difficult to achieve when the printer controls the 
 color. Change your setup to Photoshop controls color and turn off all 
 printer color control. You can find instructions for printing workflow 
 management on the web.

 Paul
 On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

             I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate 
having sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 
hours. Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with 
meals, toilet and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting 
places.
             I have proof of past BW successes which only serves to make me 
doubt myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO 
R1800 (remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
             The only calibrating I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering 
images.
             I've given control to the printer and then turned down the 
available colors (only includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of 
minus 25. Get a grape blue. If I select no color control or photoshop 
elements manages color it's a shade of magenta.
 I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a BW when I do. 
 Color hasn't been a problem.
 I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, 
 always to get a BW done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when 
 I need a print larger than 13x 19.
             I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but 
I'd likely not be around long enough to use it up.
             If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that 
may help, please pass them along.

 Thanks!

 Jack

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Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
I don't seem to have received it, Paul. PLEASE re-send it. 
Thanks!
 
Jack


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From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com
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Cc: 
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Printing BW

Jack -

I sent you a long reply off list.  If you have any questions please let 
me know.

-p

On 4/1/2013 4:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
           I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having 
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. 
Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet 
and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
           I have proof of past BW successes which only serves to make me 
doubt myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO 
R1800 (remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
           The only calibrating I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering 
images.
           I've given control to the printer and then turned down the 
available colors (only includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of minus 
25. Get a grape blue. If I select no color control or photoshop elements 
manages color it's a shade of magenta.
 I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a BW when I do. Color 
 hasn't been a problem.
 I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, 
 always to get a BW done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when I 
 need a print larger than 13x 19.
           I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but I'd 
likely not be around long enough to use it up.
           If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that may 
help, please pass them along.

 Thanks!

 Jack


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Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Derby. Am using the profile offered by Epson for there Ultra Premium 
Luster.
 
Jack


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: Printing BW


Hi Jack

Others have been giving you good advice. Don't guess, you need to calibrate a 
printer profile, or at least use one of the canned profiles.

One other thing I've found, print and print often. My R1800 doesn't do too 
badly at BW, but leave it for a week or two, a few nozzles get clogged, and it 
throws my custom profiles way off, which is especially noticeable on BW. I was 
recently offered a R2400, which would do BW much more elegantly, but I had to 
turn it down, as much as I would like two printers. Couldn't justify the 
throughput.



On 2/04/2013 8:39 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
           I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having 
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. 
Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet 
and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
           I have proof of past BW successes which only serves to make me 
doubt myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO 
R1800 (remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
           The only calibrating I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering 
images.
           I've given control to the printer and then turned down the 
available colors (only includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of minus 
25. Get a grape blue. If I select no color control or photoshop elements 
manages color it's a shade of magenta.
 I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a BW when I do. Color 
 hasn't been a problem.
 I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, 
 always to get a BW done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when I 
 need a print larger than 13x 19.
           I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but I'd 
likely not be around long enough to use it up.
           If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that may 
help, please pass them along.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jack
 


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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Cotty, Frank, and Paul, thanks very much!  

Some of the building(s) that make up the Louvre outshine some of the artwork 
they contain, IMHO.

Rick
 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

On 1/4/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

Like it a lot Rick.

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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I played the game of looking at the whole set and deciding which one 
Cotty liked best. before I clicked on that specific link. I love it too 
and I was right :-)


ann

On 4/2/2013 05:15, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 2/4/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:



And here are mine. 2 even taken with a Pentax lens...
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/


Love this one to bits

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/slides/DSCF0857.html





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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Don Guthrie
Ooh very clever. Nice use of site to create a little art of your own. 
C'est tres bien!



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Inside the Louvre
Message-ID:
1364866692.79828.yahoomail...@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I particularly like

Lost Art
http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013/content/L111_large.html

and the old/new architecture in...
http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013/content/L131_large.html

and the very nice portrait of Godders...

ann

On 4/1/2013 14:42, Bob W wrote:

The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of it, today 
and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate Modern.

Here are some snaps:
Http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013

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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/4/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:

I played the game of looking at the whole set and deciding which one 
Cotty liked best. before I clicked on that specific link. I love it too 
and I was right :-)

Bless you X

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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/4/13, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice. Just out of curiosity, did anyone actually happen to think to 
bring a Pentax camera?

Last 2 on this page were shot with an *ist Ds and 18-55 lens...

http://pdml.posthaven.com/london-micro-meet-april-2013

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Re: GESO - Honey Bees

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cute?  More than a bit creepy but beautiful.  Great shots.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Thanks, Derby - and to everyone else who looked. They do look cute with
 those big eyes!

 Mark


 On 4/2/2013 5:56 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

 Gorgeous. Messy business that nector collecting, isn't it? I like how you
 get catchlights in the eyes



 On 2/04/2013 10:46 AM, Mark C wrote:

 Each spring I try to get some shots of honey bees (apis melifera) in
 crocus flowers - the first insect and flower combinations of the year. After
 an interesting trial with the Q and LED ring light, I switched over to a
 tried an true technique with K-5, macro lens and flash:

 http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

 Permalink:

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/ah-spring-2013

 CC welcomed -

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Re: PESO 2013 - PDML London - GDG

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Godfrey,
Great to see 'the usual suspects'.
I see Mike Wilson is the only one
who belongs to the hair club for men.
Great to see the smiling shot of Stef.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 The PDML Usual Suspects gather in a cold London on April Fools Day 2013...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157633143667987/

 Enjoy!

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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
That's a special photo.  Perfect.
It kept me looking and seeing.
How difficult was it to work out that composition?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO 2013 - PDML London - GDG

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sorry, I mean Chris.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Godfrey,
 Great to see 'the usual suspects'.
 I see Mike Wilson is the only one
 who belongs to the hair club for men.
 Great to see the smiling shot of Stef.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 wrote:
 The PDML Usual Suspects gather in a cold London on April Fools Day 2013...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157633143667987/

 Enjoy!

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PESO - Pattern Interrupted - Final

2013-04-02 Thread George Sinos
Well, after thinking about it way too long and way too hard, this is
where I ended up on the mailbox.

georgesinos.com/blog/2013/4/2/pattern-interrupted

I changed the aspect ration to 16:9, moved that divider bar off of the
center line, moved the different lock to the lower third dividing
line.  To draw more attention to it, I cropped both the top row and
right column of locks.  I also desaturated the color on the other
locks a little bit. I bumped the clarity on the doors to emphasize the
dirt.

Way to much work and thought for a simple picture of a mailbox.

Thanks to those who commented on the previous versions.

gs






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RE: As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Brogden
I'd say it already is, given the number of pictures you can fit on a memory
card. 

Chris Brogden, Manager
Don's Photo St. Vital
31 - 845 Dakota St.
(Right across the street from St. Vital Centre)
Winnipeg, MB   R2M 5M3
Ph: (204) 254-9075
Fax: (204) 253-7173
 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:51 AM
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Subject: As expected - film gets expensive

Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-doubl
e-digit-film-price-hike

At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of film.

gs

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As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: George Sinos

Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-double-digit-film-price-hike

At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of film.

gs

George Sinos


On the basis of how many images each will hold, memory cards have already
been cheaper for quite a while.

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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 2 April 2013 16:18, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 I played the game of looking at the whole set and deciding which one Cotty
 liked best. before I clicked on that specific link. I love it too and I was
 right :-)

 ann

Thanks Anne and Cotty. Great minds and all that...
Chris


 On 4/2/2013 05:15, Steve Cottrell wrote:

 On 2/4/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:


 And here are mine. 2 even taken with a Pentax lens...
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/


 Love this one to bits

 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LondonPDMLApril2013_1/slides/DSCF0857.html




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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Bob!

That renovated part of the Louvre is amazing.  The interaction of the circular 
and linear elements in the space caught my eye immediately.  I spent a few 
minutes scouting a good viewpoint, and then 5 or 10 minutes (and several 
exposures) to get people in the right positions.  It was well within the 
limits of spousal patience.

Rick
 
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

Rick,
That's a special photo.  Perfect.
It kept me looking and seeing.
How difficult was it to work out that composition?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick

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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Don!
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

Ooh very clever. Nice use of site to create a little art of your own. 
C'est tres bien!


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 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
 To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Inside the Louvre
 Message-ID:
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

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Re: As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: George Sinos

 Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

 http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-double-digit-film-price-hike

 At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of film.

 On the basis of how many images each will hold, memory cards have already
 been cheaper for quite a while.

The film / SD-card analogy doesn't work anyway, as far as I'm
concerned. Film is a consumable while SD cards are erased and used
over and over. In my case I've taken 45K+ shots with the same 4 cards,
so the price for an SD roll of film is in the millipenny range. Film
has _never_ been that cheap.

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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like the lines, curves and geometry of that, Rick.

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 (K-5, DA 16-45)

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Re: As expected - film gets expensive

2013-04-02 Thread George Sinos
I was thinking more in terms of comparing the prices, not so much the
cost of use.  The first CF card I bought was over $300.  At that time
a 5-pack of 36 exposure Portra was about $25.

Things have changed.

When it comes to cost, I actually used to keep a spreadsheet that
included the cost of film, processing, memory cards, camera and lens
depreciation, computer equipment and software, etc.

At the rate I shoot, digital pulled even with film after the first
couple of years.  That was back around 2005.  At that point I quit
tracking that level of detail.

If I figured my cost per shot based only on just the really good
keepers it would be depressing.  I console myself with the old Ansel
Adams quote about trying to get about 10 good shots a year.  Someday I
hope I can get that many.

gs

gs
George Sinos

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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:09 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: George Sinos

 Just saw this on Imaging Resource.  Fuji plans a price increase.

 http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/04/02/fujifilm-prepares-for-double-digit-film-price-hike

 At some point it will be cheaper to buy a memory card than a roll of film.

 On the basis of how many images each will hold, memory cards have already
 been cheaper for quite a while.

 The film / SD-card analogy doesn't work anyway, as far as I'm
 concerned. Film is a consumable while SD cards are erased and used
 over and over. In my case I've taken 45K+ shots with the same 4 cards,
 so the price for an SD roll of film is in the millipenny range. Film
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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks for the question Bob, and thanks Rick for the explanation - I had been 
wondering the same thing.
I don't know how much work you had to do in postprocessing, but one of the 
things I find impressive about this, in addition to the strong use of the 
geometrics in the scene, is the amount of detail (for instance in the women on 
the escalator) despite the wide overall range of light/dark tones. It would 
have been so easy to have the darks block out . . .

stan

On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Thanks, Bob!
 
 That renovated part of the Louvre is amazing.  The interaction of the 
 circular and linear elements in the space caught my eye immediately.  I spent 
 a few minutes scouting a good viewpoint, and then 5 or 10 minutes (and 
 several exposures) to get people in the right positions.  It was well 
 within the limits of spousal patience.
 
 Rick
  
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:18 PM
 Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre
 
 Rick,
 That's a special photo.  Perfect.
 It kept me looking and seeing.
 How difficult was it to work out that composition?
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg
 
 (K-5, DA 16-45)
 
 Comments appreciated!
 
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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Bob W
I brought my MX with 40mm pancake and an unopened roll of Tri-X, use by 2008...

B

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 From: Bob W
 The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of
 it, today and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate
 Modern.
 
 Here are some snaps: Http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013
 
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 Nice. Just out of curiosity, did anyone actually happen to think to bring a 
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Re: DIY - A Custom Handgrip for the Q

2013-04-02 Thread Toine
maybe this strap:
http://camdapter.com/handstrap/camstrap.html

On 1 April 2013 23:44, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 G'day all

 A minor frustration with the Q is that I tend to inadvertently push buttons
 and move the e-dial while I'm trying to concentrate on composition. It's a
 real pain when you press the shutter release and the self timer starts to
 count down

 What I need is some sort of hand grip that will get my hand away from the
 various buttons.

 I recently came across this:

 http://www.bosstrap.com/ultralighthandband.aspx

 which looks promising but it's designed for cameras that have a 'lug' to
 attach a strap rather than the rectangular strap support of the Q. Using it
 on the Q would cause the strap to twist.  Some sort of swivel clip might get
 around the problem but before investing in something like this I thought it
 would be useful to try to cobble together something similar to see how
 practical the idea is.

 So - back to my bits and pieces drawer

 In it I came across a narrow strap off an old Pentax compact film camera. It
 looked as if it had possibilities and here's what I came up with.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1280-k5-peso.html

 Living with it for a couple of days now, I'm finding it comfortable and
 makes using the camera easy one handed. It will do until I find something
 better.


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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
I am well aware of the patience of 'she who must be obeyed.'
I have found that sending my wife off shopping is an excellent way to
'suspend' time.
But that is not possible in all situations. :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Thanks, Bob!

 That renovated part of the Louvre is amazing.  The interaction of the 
 circular and linear elements in the space caught my eye immediately.  I spent 
 a few minutes scouting a good viewpoint, and then 5 or 10 minutes (and 
 several exposures) to get people in the right positions.  It was well 
 within the limits of spousal patience.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

 Rick,
 That's a special photo.  Perfect.
 It kept me looking and seeing.
 How difficult was it to work out that composition?
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO - Pattern Interrupted - Final

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
George,
You cut off parts of the locks!
Earlier versions were to blah for me.
This version elicits a reaction, but not positive!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, after thinking about it way too long and way too hard, this is
 where I ended up on the mailbox.

 georgesinos.com/blog/2013/4/2/pattern-interrupted

 I changed the aspect ration to 16:9, moved that divider bar off of the
 center line, moved the different lock to the lower third dividing
 line.  To draw more attention to it, I cropped both the top row and
 right column of locks.  I also desaturated the color on the other
 locks a little bit. I bumped the clarity on the doors to emphasize the
 dirt.

 Way to much work and thought for a simple picture of a mailbox.

 Thanks to those who commented on the previous versions.

 gs






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PESO: Babyland

2013-04-02 Thread Darren Addy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8614981532/in/photostream/lightbox/

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Re: PESO - Cormorants at Dawn

2013-04-02 Thread Darren Addy
With the title: Cormorants at Dawn I was expecting something more like this:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/cormorantsAtDawn.gif

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 First showed this one several years ago but recently noticed it while looking 
 for something else.

 I liked it not for the official PDML birds flying through, but because it's 
 one of my better sunrises:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2010/10/cormorants-at-dawn.html?m=0

 Gotta get out there a get a few more sunrises...

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: DIY - A Custom Handgrip for the Q

2013-04-02 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:


maybe this strap:
http://camdapter.com/handstrap/camstrap.html



Looks very nice although the thing I like about the Boss Strap is that  
it keeps the tripod mount clear.



Cheers

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On 1 April 2013 23:44, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:


G'day all

A minor frustration with the Q is that I tend to inadvertently push buttons
and move the e-dial while I'm trying to concentrate on composition. It's a
real pain when you press the shutter release and the self timer starts to
count down

What I need is some sort of hand grip that will get my hand away from the
various buttons.

I recently came across this:

http://www.bosstrap.com/ultralighthandband.aspx

which looks promising but it's designed for cameras that have a 'lug' to
attach a strap rather than the rectangular strap support of the Q. Using it
on the Q would cause the strap to twist.  Some sort of swivel clip might get
around the problem but before investing in something like this I thought it
would be useful to try to cobble together something similar to see how
practical the idea is.

So - back to my bits and pieces drawer

In it I came across a narrow strap off an old Pentax compact film camera. It
looked as if it had possibilities and here's what I came up with.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1280-k5-peso.html

Living with it for a couple of days now, I'm finding it comfortable and
makes using the camera easy one handed. It will do until I find something
better.


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Re: DA 40mm XS on full frame SLR

2013-04-02 Thread Mark C
I found the corners to be soft on film as well. Less so when focusing 
close than when at infinity. But it covered most of the frame well.


Mark

On 4/2/2013 9:55 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

The 40XS has clearance for the mirror. Rice high posted samples from a 5dmk3 
and it didn't fully cover the frame. The corners were very soft. Of course on 
film  it might be better due to film handling oblique angles of light beter.





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anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread Larry Colen

While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/

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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Larry Colen
Great job on the photo.

Apropos of nothing, I don't suppose the gift shop sells T-shirts that say

Paris is for Louvres.

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Re: anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread Zos Xavius
I've looked  very  long and hard at this  flash. Read the reviews. They all say 
the  same  thing. Half of these arrive broken with no way to return them to 
china in time to get  an exchange. If you can get one at  bh that's better cuz 
you can return it at least. Other problem is that they tend to  work for a 
month or two and the capacitors die. I guess you get what you pay for. Their 
wireless system is decent though. There are probably better options  even used 
at that price point. The vivtars  are rebranded, but reliable...though new they 
cost a bit more. An  old autothyristor would actually serve well if you 
translate the focal lengths provided  your  lucky  enough to  find a zoom head. 
For off camera flashes firing at lower power than 1/1, these cheap flashes do 
make a nice  lighting  addition with some  diffusion.

Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio
trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/


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Re: PESO: Babyland

2013-04-02 Thread Bob W
Looks like it's ready to dive off.
B

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Re: anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread Larry Colen

On Tue, April 2, 2013 3:43 pm, Zos Xavius wrote:
 I've looked  very  long and hard at this  flash. Read the reviews. They
 all say the  same  thing. Half of these arrive broken with no way to
 return them to china in time to get  an exchange. If you can get one at

That's good to know.

 bh that's better cuz you can return it at least. Other problem is that
 they tend to  work for a month or two and the capacitors die. I guess you

Even more important.

 get what you pay for. Their wireless system is decent though. There are

I might have some of their cheapo wireless triggers.

 probably better options  even used at that price point. The vivtars  are
 rebranded, but reliable...though new they cost a bit more. An  old
 autothyristor would actually serve well if you translate the focal lengths
 provided  your  lucky  enough to  find a zoom head. For off camera flashes
 firing at lower power than 1/1, these cheap flashes do make a nice
 lighting  addition with some  diffusion.

I seriously wish someone would come up with a wifi flash control standard,
which could work across all brands of cameras and flashes.

Of course, that's probably why nobody will.  Canon would hate it if you
could control a Nikon flash with a Canon camera, pocketwizard would go out
of business etc.


 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio
trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/


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Re: anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:


While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/




I've got no personal experience but as Zos says, quality control is an issue.

These articles from Strobist make interesting reading, even if they're  
not discussing the exact model you're referring to:


http://strobist.blogspot.com.au/2010/08/test-drive-yongnuo-yn-560.html

http://www.strobist.blogspot.com.au/2011_04_01_archive.html


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Re: PESO - Three Muses

2013-04-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:

 At the Louvre, Paris:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094513size=lg

Good angle!  Agreed that focusing on the faces works well, and that's
about the only angle where you can get all their faces.
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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Stan,

I metered for the mid-ground wall (ISO 800, f/5.6@1/90).  Looking at the 
history in LR, I straightened, brought up the shadows, chose medium contrast 
from the curves window, brought down the highlights, set the black clipping 
down a bit, added some clarity.  The K-5 gives wonderful files.

Rick


 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

Thanks for the question Bob, and thanks Rick for the explanation - I had been 
wondering the same thing.
I don't know how much work you had to do in postprocessing, but one of the 
things I find impressive about this, in addition to the strong use of the 
geometrics in the scene, is the amount of detail (for instance in the women on 
the escalator) despite the wide overall range of light/dark tones. It would 
have been so easy to have the darks block out . . .

stan

On Apr 2, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Thanks, Bob!
 
 That renovated part of the Louvre is amazing.  The interaction of the 
 circular and linear elements in the space caught my eye immediately.  I spent 
 a few minutes scouting a good viewpoint, and then 5 or 10 minutes (and 
 several exposures) to get people in the right positions.  It was well 
 within the limits of spousal patience.
 
 Rick
  
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:18 PM
 Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre
 
 Rick,
 That's a special photo.  Perfect.
 It kept me looking and seeing.
 How difficult was it to work out that composition?
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg
 
 (K-5, DA 16-45)
 
 Comments appreciated!
 
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Re: PESO - Three Muses

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Aazh!

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On Sun, Mar 31, 2013, Rick Womer wrote:

 At the Louvre, Paris:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094513size=lg

Good angle!  Agreed that focusing on the faces works well, and that's
about the only angle where you can get all their faces.
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Re: PESO: Babyland

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
I like it.

Brightening the statue a bit would bring it out from the background more, which 
might be good.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: PESO: Babyland

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8614981532/in/photostream/lightbox/

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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Larry,

I've never seen such a T-shirt.  Maybe your fortune lies thence!

Rick


 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

Great job on the photo.

Apropos of nothing, I don't suppose the gift shop sells T-shirts that say

Paris is for Louvres.

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RE: anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/


First I've ever heard of it.

What is The Strobist recommending now that they've decided the NEW 
Chinese Vivitars are crap unworthy of the name?


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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Mark C
Excellent use of the geometry and architecture. It draws all the more 
attention to those errant wandering things... Oh - people! Great shot.


Mark

On 4/1/2013 9:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

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Comments appreciated!

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PESO - Inside the Louvre, 2

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17106193

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO 2013 - PDML London - GDG

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Great set, Godfrey.

With a lot more wealth and a lot less responsibility, I would have buzzed 
across the Channel at the end of our France trip to join you...

Cheers,

Rick


 
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BAPhotoShooters baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com; PAW Picture-A-Week project 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:11 AM
Subject: PESO 2013 - PDML London - GDG

The PDML Usual Suspects gather in a cold London on April Fools Day 2013...

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157633143667987/

Enjoy!

Godfrey
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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Same as I said to Godders...

Rick


 
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: PDML London

The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of it, today 
and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate Modern.

Here are some snaps:
Http://www.web-options.com/PDML2013

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Re: PDML London

2013-04-02 Thread Rick Womer
Cotty,

I surmise that the youngest member of the group is your son.  I'd love to see 
some of what he shot, too.

Cheers,

Rick


 
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From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: PDML London

On 1/4/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

The Southern chapter of the UK PDMLers met the West Coast, or part of
it, today and went to look at some cartoons by Lichtenstein at Tate Modern.

Just got back in - dinner first then I'll see what nonesense I've got.
Sorry the visit was so short for us - next time we need to make an
evening of it and do it properly!!! Also, the gaffs around Bob's are
better for this sort of thing. I think if someone forced me to live in
London, it would have to be Greenwich. On the way back, Alma thought
Chelsea and Pimlico were the place to be! But then again, she *is* a
pensioner now ;-)

Will post some pics later.

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Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Mark C
Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable 
printer management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it. 
Otherwise you could get double profiling - PS Elements outputs the print 
profiled to the paper and then the printer re-profiles that and things 
go wonky...


Having said that - the path of less resistance might be to go with a 
mono print - toned - as opposed to a BW un-toned. When I was using an 
Epson 2200 I seldom got good results with plain BW prints but would use 
the duo / tri / quad tone settings in PS to make a warm, cool, sepia, 
split tone etc simulation and the printer seemed to handle it better. I 
don't know if Elements supports duo tones or not, but if it does give it 
a try. A slightly warm print is pretty similar to many darkroom BW 
prints and color inkjets that can't handle a pure BW print often do 
better with something toned. Like I said - a subtle toning, especially a 
slightly warm tone, produces a result similar to many classic BW 
developer / paper combos.


Nonetheless, you may simply have a problem with metamerism - colors 
looking different in different color light.  Even when I got the the 
Epson 2200 to kick out what I wanted prints looked different under 
different light. So if the tones look off try looking at it under 
different light. I don't know what generation of inks the R1800 uses,but 
it might be prone to metamerism. You maybe could solve your problems by 
changing your light bulbs. :-)


Good luck

Mark

On 4/1/2013 5:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

  I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having 
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. 
Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet 
and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
  I have proof of past BW successes which only serves to make me doubt 
myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO R1800 
(remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
  The only calibrating I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering images.
  I've given control to the printer and then turned down the available colors (only 
includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of minus 25. Get a grape blue. If I select no 
color control or photoshop elements manages color it's a shade of magenta.
I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a BW when I do. Color 
hasn't been a problem.
I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, always to get a 
BW done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when I need a print larger than 
13x 19.
  I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but I'd 
likely not be around long enough to use it up.
  If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that may 
help, please pass them along.

Thanks!

Jack




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Re: Printing BW

2013-04-02 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for thoughts, Mark. The light is everything and has been of primary use 
in judging results.
I think I've run the gamut with this program, and throughout full spectrum 
lighting was utilized.
The tones I sought were always clear.
 
Jack
 


 From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Printing BW
  
Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable printer 
management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it. Otherwise you could 
get double profiling - PS Elements outputs the print profiled to the paper and 
then the printer re-profiles that and things go wonky...

Having said that - the path of less resistance might be to go with a mono print 
- toned - as opposed to a BW un-toned. When I was using an Epson 2200 I seldom 
got good results with plain BW prints but would use the duo / tri / quad tone 
settings in PS to make a warm, cool, sepia, split tone etc simulation and the 
printer seemed to handle it better. I don't know if Elements supports duo tones 
or not, but if it does give it a try. A slightly warm print is pretty similar 
to many darkroom BW prints and color inkjets that can't handle a pure BW 
print often do better with something toned. Like I said - a subtle toning, 
especially a slightly warm tone, produces a result similar to many classic BW 
developer / paper combos.

Nonetheless, you may simply have a problem with metamerism - colors looking 
different in different color light.  Even when I got the the Epson 2200 to kick 
out what I wanted prints looked different under different light. So if the 
tones look off try looking at it under different light. I don't know what 
generation of inks the R1800 uses,but it might be prone to metamerism. You 
maybe could solve your problems by changing your light bulbs. :-)

Good luck

Mark

On 4/1/2013 5:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
           I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having 
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours. 
Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet 
and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
           I have proof of past BW successes which only serves to make me 
doubt myself rather than the printer. The printer is an Epson Stylus PHOTO 
R1800 (remember those?) which I bought new about a dozen years ago.
           The only calibrating I've ever done to the system is a fairly 
regular session with Huey whenever I begin to see ghostly shadows bordering 
images.
           I've given control to the printer and then turned down the 
available colors (only includes magenta, yellow and cyan) to a limit of minus 
25. Get a grape blue. If I select no color control or photoshop elements 
manages color it's a shade of magenta.
 I don't do a lot of printing any more, but seems it's a BW when I do. Color 
 hasn't been a problem.
 I've made several trips to my favorite lab in Sacramento in recent years, 
 always to get a BW done that I'm pressed to supply. I, also, do that when I 
 need a print larger than 13x 19.
           I've figured out that a new printer would solve my problem, but I'd 
likely not be around long enough to use it up.
           If you're familiar with the printer and have any thoughts that may 
help, please pass them along.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jack
 


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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre, 2

2013-04-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Fine image.  I like the geometry, the lighting ad especially the lone
dark figure on the staircase.
Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17106193

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick


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Re: PESO - Inside the Louvre

2013-04-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 4/2/2013 15:10, Bruce Walker wrote:

I really like the lines, curves and geometry of that, Rick.


what Bruce said

ann


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094512size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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PESO - Messenger Tools

2013-04-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Couldn't resist:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/04/messenger-tools.html?m=1

;-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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RE: PESO - Inside the Louvre, 2

2013-04-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Oh my, that is beautiful! And the person is so well placed.

You're on a roll, Rick!

cheers,
frank

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Sent: April 2, 2013 4/2/13
To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Inside the Louvre, 2

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17106193

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO - Cormorants at Dawn

2013-04-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Ha!  That's the image the title was supposed to evoke, before one viewed the 
photo.

Glad you enjoyed. Thanks to those who looked and commented.

cheers,
frank

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From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
Sent: April 2, 2013 4/2/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Cormorants at Dawn

With the title: Cormorants at Dawn I was expecting something more like this:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/cormorantsAtDawn.gif

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 7:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 First showed this one several years ago but recently noticed it while looking 
 for something else.

 I liked it not for the official PDML birds flying through, but because it's 
 one of my better sunrises:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2010/10/cormorants-at-dawn.html?m=0

 Gotta get out there a get a few more sunrises...

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread Boris Liberman
All I know that a good Nikonian friend of mine bought one of these or 
some other such from deal extreme. The first one got its board fried 
almost immediately upon arrival. The replacement one that arrived some 
time later is fine. The one he bought seems to be fully equivalent to 
some Nikon flash (no clue as to model number, etc). So with this caveat 
it in fact may be a good flash, especially given its price, though I 
think it is closer to $150...


Boris


On 4/3/2013 1:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/




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Re: anybody know the yn560iii ?

2013-04-02 Thread Boris Liberman

Correction - the prices are indeed in USD 80 range. My mistake.

On 4/3/2013 1:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


While waiting for Adorama or BH to return from passover holiday, I was
doing some more poking around, and ran across the yn 560 series.

The yn560iii seems to be a full manual flash, with a built in radio trigger.
This seems very, cool and handy.  They also seem to sell for about $80.

http://www.diyphotographystuff.info/3132/yn560iii-review-first-built-in-radio-trigger-flash/




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RE: PESO: Babyland

2013-04-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Kind of weird. Is that an infant's grave? Is Babyland the family name?

One can almost imagine it to be a mass grave for infants or something.

Very odd stuff. But a very interesting photo!

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: April 2, 2013 4/2/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Babyland

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8614981532/in/photostream/lightbox/

Comments and eviscerations welcome in equal measure.

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Re: PESO -- Beach Wedding.

2013-04-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Shot last October in Florida.
 
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20beachwedding.html

Awww kawai!  (Anyone doesn't know what that means, JFGI.)
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Re: PESO - Pattern Interrupted - Final

2013-04-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 georgesinos.com/blog/2013/4/2/pattern-interrupted

 I changed the aspect ration to 16:9, moved that divider bar off of the
 center line, moved the different lock to the lower third dividing
 line.  To draw more attention to it, I cropped both the top row and
 right column of locks.  I also desaturated the color on the other
 locks a little bit. I bumped the clarity on the doors to emphasize the
 dirt.

 You cut off parts of the locks!
 Earlier versions were to blah for me.
 This version elicits a reaction, but not positive!

That's what I said about v2 as well (this being v3, now).  I really
think partial locks don't work.
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