Re: Tan and 2011...
On Dec 12, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Cushietushies says Authorization Required. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits
On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:12 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Coffee Shop Portraits: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551size=lg Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4. Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the camera raised. The white thing in the foreground, bottom left hand side is a bit of a bother, but hey, it was there and can't really be cropped out. Thanks Frank. Yes, I wasn't too pleased with that chair back in the frame. But I've included out of focus foreground objects in other pics of this series, and I'm not sure that they aren't a plus when taken collectively. They demonstrate that the perspective is limited to the view from one chair in the shop. But perhaps I'm just rationalizing a shortcoming:-). Paul Other than that, both are fine photos of coffee shop life. Well done! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Hanukkah Lights
Nice photo. A holiday card contender. Well done. Paul On Dec 10, 2010, at 7:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Dec 9, 2010, at 6:41 AM, frank theriault wrote: Last night was the last night of Hanukkah, so all the candles in the Menorah were lit. Looked pretty cool, I thought: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/hanukkah-lights.html I thought so, too. Thanks, Eric. Hanukkah was fun (especially the food - we had a variation of latkes every night, and I ~love~ latkes!). One nice thing about having a Jewish partner is that we do both Jewish and Christian holidays in our house - twice the fun! ;-) Thanks to everyone who commented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Happy Birthday, Annsan
(Clears throat.) Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Ann, happy birthday to you. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'Cracked Up'
On Dec 10, 2010, at 6:56 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice texture and geometry. Exactly! Agreed! There's somef intrigue in not knowing the scale. Interesting. Paul cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Firmware 1.01
I get long bursts of RAW images at full throttle. Don't have an exact frame count, but seems to be somewhere around 20. Paul On Dec 10, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Probably missed it, but what is the affect on RAW image count after installing firmware 1.01? Anyone. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The Coffee Shop Portraits
Coffee Shop Portraits: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072552size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12072551size=lg Both with K-5 and DA* 50-135, ISO 2000, f4. Shot the tiger fan with live view after he had caught me twice with the camera raised. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)
TMax developer works well, and it has a long shelf life. I shot a roll of BW in my Leica a few months ago and processed it with some TMax that's been sitting on the shelf for about seven years. No problems. At normal development times, the negative density was spot on. When I was shooting a lot of BW, I preferred D-76 mixed 1:1 with water -- a somewhat gentle soup that yielded a nice range of midtones-- but it involved a lot of work, since D-76 is only sold as a mix-it-yourself powder. Paul On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Thibouille wrote: I bought Tmax because that's what my reseller had in stock. Heard a couple time Tmax is the best developper, ever. Dunno what to think about that but at least it is a good one, which is OK for me. 2010/12/8 Gasha cir...@konts.lv: Welcome to the club!!! I discovered these nice things about 5 years ago. So far used only Rodinal, but i hope to try also Ilfosol. Gasha Thibouille wrote: Just understood how cheaper it was to process film in house. Got material from my brother, just needed the chemical part. Got developper + fixer for 30 Euros, dunno if it is about a right price or not... I can process 40 35mm films with that, compared to 6 euros per film when dropped to my reseller. Ouch ! BTW, just found out there're a couple nice apps helping, at least on iPhone. The Massive Dev Chart, ( http://www.digitaltruth.com ) is available with complete database of developper/film times, stopwatch etc. Very impressive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA 16-45 f/4 lens
On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:04 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: The only problem can be it only reaches 45mm, but that's hardly a surprise ;-) Dario But its a 57 on an AP-C sensor. (insert image of me ducking here.) Dave Rats, I mean a 67. Forgot to carry., Forgot to carry what? Dave - Original Message - From: David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:10 AM Subject: DA 16-45 f/4 lens I just noticed the camera shop's ad also has this lens on special (not the 16-50 f/2.8 unfortunately). What's the group's consensus on this one? It might be a bad assumption that PDML can agree on anything, but it's worth a try. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 10.0.1170 / Database dei virus: 426/3298 - Data di rilascio: 05/12/2010 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: laptop recommendation
On Dec 9, 2010, at 6:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Matthew Montgomery On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:46 AM, John Sessoms wrote: OTOH, Time Machine ... not having any way to turn it off so it won't bug me Do you want to use 'LaCie' to back up your hard drive? every time I plug it into the school's computer. If the school wants the computer backed up let 'em buy their own damn drives. All I want to do is save my school work. If the program was worth a damn, you could tell it NO one time and tell it not to ever ask you about it again. Windoze can do that, why can't Mac? Try this. Create a file called '.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent' at the root of your portable drive. You might find it easier to do this with the Terminal using the following command. touch /Volumes/The Name of Your Drive/.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent I am pretty sure I have see the option to never use a drive in the Time Machine UI but perhaps something is amiss for you. Thanks. I'll stop by the computer lab at school tomorrow and give that a try. When I get to Terminal, do I type in: /Volumes/jsessoms_mac_drive/.com.apple.timemachine.donotpresent (jsessoms_mac_drive is the name I gave my drive) or do I need to type in: touch /Volumes/jsessoms_mac_drive/.com.apple.timemachine.do not present The school has the Time Machine UI locked down where I cannot get to it. That's what's amiss. There are a couple of reasons I need the configuration stored on my drive rather on the schools machines. They've got a program named Deep Freeze that dumps any changes made to the system while a student is logged on. Even if I could get into Time Machine and configure it, any changes I made would be wiped out when I log off. Plus, I can't be sure I'll always be on the same computer, so I'd have to load that configuration on 75 different computers in three different labs. On the other hand, you could just click no when time machine asks if you want to use the drive as a backup. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Massaging K-5 RAW files
On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Miserere wrote: On 8 December 2010 05:14, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Miserere, have you noticed an additional bonus of shadow recovery - no purple fringing at all??? That was the first thing I noticed: No purple fringing. Of course, had I remembered to turn on the CA correction feature there should have been no PF anyway. Is CA correction for jpeg only, or does it work with RAW files? Paul —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general
I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, because they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a great camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time. Paul On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote: Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a couple reasons: * I want to do film * Medium format * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely. 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is available as well) * The challenge of square format, 6x6 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare) * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to. Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago. Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras? Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling etc. Thank you much. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ned plugs Mark's book and PDML
Excellent! Kudos to Mark. Paul On Dec 8, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Miserere wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/pentax-photo-book-for-the-holidays-0 Mark was wondering if they'd received the book he sent, and here's the answer. The book looks even better in person than it did online, unlike some of us. You're getting pretty good at book layout, Mark...and setting the bar very high for yourself for the upcoming PDML Annual. We expect nothing but 10% more than the best :-) —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: - Mensaje original De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lun,6 diciembre, 2010 15:05 Asunto: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion As part of my on-going K-5 review, I updated the focusing section: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#focusing My conclusions about focusing speed seem to differe from everyone else's. Opinions welcomed! Cheers, Aghh Miserere... Noise improvement is great, but autofocus (low light and continuous) is the feature that I see as weaker in Pentax when I hold another brand DSLR...and is one of my main motivations to upgrade... This, and your sensor blobs warning makes you the perfect 'un-enabler' (or is it 'de-enabler'?) ;-) Low light autofocus is much improved in the K-5, but mainly with the SDM lenses. In regard to the sensor blobs, this shouldn't be a problem a month or two down the road, as Pentax (and/or Sony) will undoubtedly take steps to resolve the problem, and once the current stock is off the shelves, it should be a safe bet. Paul Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 12/7/2010 4:27 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: Low light autofocus is much improved in the K-5, but mainly with the SDM lenses. In regard to the sensor blobs, this shouldn't be a problem a month or two down the road, as Pentax (and/or Sony) will undoubtedly take steps to resolve the problem, and once the current stock is off the shelves, it should be a safe bet. Paul Paul's right. Whoever wanted to buy K-5 /right here right now/ is better hold their horses. This is what I plan on doing. It seems to me that most if not all manufacturers rush their products to the market and the earliest adopters play certain gamble here. No offense to you, Paul or anyone else here who /already/ bought K-5's. I was like this with K-7 and got reasonably lucky. So, indeed, if one can wait, one would be better off both from resolved issues and relaxed price points of view. IMHO. I agree Boris. it's alway better to wait. However, I don't like to wait to sell my oldest body, because once the new camera is released, it becomes a generation older and loses value. And with a big job on my schedule, I needed a backup, so I dove right in on the K-5. Fortunately, I got lucky and can find no evidence of sensor contamination. However, my own testing suggests some people may be imagining problems. On one of several tests I conducted, I noticed that a speck of black dust on a piece of white paper can show up as a blob when the paper is shot out of focus at f22. The testing has to be performed very carefully and should be repeated with an alternate target. Paul Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: laptop recommendation
Obviously, a mentally impaired user. Too much time with a PC. On Dec 7, 2010, at 2:02 PM, mike wilson wrote: Kenton Brede wrote: I've decided to purchase a laptop for RAW image processing. I'm also a budding nature audio recordist, so I'll be doing audio post processing as well. So far I've only played with Bibble and Picassa a bit processing photos. My plan is to give Photoshop and Lightroom a try. I would like to purchase a mac since it's unix based, but I need a more compelling reason than that to justify spending the extra money. Those of you who've used image processing software on both platforms, what reasons made you settle on one OS over the other for working images? Thanks, Kent A story about a MAC http://illuminatiguzzisti.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?t=14799; -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Focusing Speed -- My Opinion
I find the biggest advantage of K-5 autofocus is that it's able to lock in with relatively little light. As you note, continuous autofocus is better, but spot autofocus is also able to lock onto moving objects much more easily than was that of the K-7. I've used only SDM lenses thus far -- the opposite of your experience Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Miserere wrote: As part of my on-going K-5 review, I updated the focusing section: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#focusing My conclusions about focusing speed seem to differe from everyone else's. Opinions welcomed! Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good/Bad news about my all-green K-7
Very nice. I would pull down the highlights a bit, but otherwise they look darn good. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 5, 2010, at 23:10, P. J. Alling wrote: You've got one channel I don;t think you're going to have a lot of control, brightness and contrast is about it. Heh. Yeah, I was going to amend my post with that observation... It is a little bit freeing when all you can do is brightness, contrast, and the recovery/shadows. Still, it worked out well. Punched up the exposure/contrast and they came out looking OK. I still wish I could have shot this in color (well, more than one color) but I got a few shots that I would call 'acceptable' http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/new_standards_holiday_show/index.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a OMG the sky is falling kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by affect the output I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them near the center for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Paul, in cleaning the sensor, did you use sensor vibration or a Pentax gum stick? Just the vibration. I only resort to the gum stick if the vibration fails in repeated attempts. These were minor dust specs and not near the center. They disappeared with one vibrate. Paul Jack --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:31 PM On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a OMG the sky is falling kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by affect the output I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them near the center for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a OMG the sky is falling kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by affect the output I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them near the center for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul That's good news, Paul. For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined using the sky or a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not sure why anyone would want advice on improving their blob definition, but it's one of the many useful services I provide to the community. Because giving back is important. I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at f22. Just out of focus paper. Paul —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor
goodly out of focus:-). When trying to detect spots on the sensor, you want only a white surface in front of the lens. Focusing on the surface is counterproductive in that you pick up more of its texture. Paul On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Badly OOF? Jack --- On Mon, 12/6/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Latest Pentax Scare: Blobs on K-5 Sensor To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 1:52 PM On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:31, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Miserere wrote: On 6 December 2010 16:03, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:19, Miserere wrote: Any of you guys with a K-5 experiencing any of this? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37092371 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=37101106 Maybe you K-7 owners could take a look too. No need to transfer test images to the computer, the blobs can be seen on the LCD. Frankly, if the images turn out OK (besides being all green) then there is no problem. Interesting as a curiosity, but not in a OMG the sky is falling kind of way. Seriously... why would a person even bother looking for something like this unless it's affecting the output? And by affect the output I mean: can this really be SEEN on something other than an f/22 shot of a blank grey surface? It could be seen on any number of small aperture shots. I'm definitely going to test for it. Paul Thanks for the replies so far, and please keep 'em coming. My test unit has a string of blobs near the center (most people seem to report them near the center for what it's worth). They are noticeable at f/8 and smaller when photographing a blank surface; I suspect in real photographs (with plenty of detail) they should *maybe* be noticeable at f/11 and onwards. I rarely photograph at such apertures, but I can imagine people shooting landscapes would be annoyed to find these blobs in their blue skies. Then again, a blob in a blue sky is easy to clone out. Then again, again, we'd all prefer not to have to clone out blobs as part of our postprocessing. I just tested my camera in the same manner as the guy reported on dpreview. I filled my computer screen with white and shot it with my DA* 16-50 at about 30mm, F stops were f22, f16 and f11. Focus set to infinity. No blobs. Saw a few specs of dust, Did the sensor clean operation and retested, and the dust was gone. I get pure white. Paul That's good news, Paul. For what it's worth, my blobs are much better defined using the sky or a blank piece of paper than the computer screen. Not sure why anyone would want advice on improving their blob definition, but it's one of the many useful services I provide to the community. Because giving back is important. I repeated the test with white paper. Still no blobs at f22. Just out of focus paper. Paul —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Teleconverters?
On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Peter Loveday Ken Waller and his 600mm is always gonna beat you and your 300mm w/TC. Thanks for the confidence Bob, but equipment will only take you so far... ;+} Indeed. It's not about the equipment. A *great* photographer can make a 10mm fisheye look like a 600mm tele :) But, when would he do that? One of the characteristic skills that make a photographer *great* is knowing using the most suitable lens for the situation. Or conversely, creating photos that make the best use of the available lens. I make no claim to greatness, although I have aspirations, but if I'm using a 10mm fish-eye, I don't want photos that look like they were taken with a 600mm tele. It was obviously a joke. We're all with you on this. Loosen the cincture:-). Paul The long tele-photo prime without tele-converter is always going to trump the medium tele-photo prime with tele-converter. And both of them will give sharper images without the TC than a long zoom with the TC will. All other things being equal, my 300mm with a 2x tele-converter will not give me as sharp an image as I could get with the 600mm. Without the tele-converter my 300 is just as sharp as the 600, but doesn't get in as close. And the 600 with a tele-converter would suffer just as much loss of sharpness as the 300 does. But it would still get in a hell of a lot closer. I have the 300. I don't have the 600. To me, the path to greatness is to make the best images I can make with the 300 I have and not worry about what the 600 can do for me until the day ever comes that I can afford to buy one hire the necessary Sherpa to carry it around for me. The same applies to making photographs using a tele-converter. You make the best image you can given the characteristic limits imposed by the equipment. And accept that sometimes the limits imposed by the equipment are going to keep you from getting the image you really want. I apologize for the rant. I *did* see the smiley. Don't even know why. While I've been in school, I've hardly had occasion to use the 300 other than for baseball last summer, and for that the 300 was almost too long ... got more utility from my 80-200. Most everything I've done in school this year has been at 70mm or shorter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Studebaker
From this summer's dream cruise, which played out in the rain. Perhaps the nicest Studebaker of them all. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12042951size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Leave the Light On
Well composed and exposed. Nice. Paul On Dec 4, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Bob W wrote: http://blog.nickdavidwright.net/2010/12/leave-light-on.html This shot has set in my files since I shot it. It is another example of why I needed my own scanner. The machine at walmart thought this photo was a mistake and would make the file so the building was exposed properly. I tried working with the techs at the lab to get a better scan but no go. The lit area would scan completely blown out and the dark building would come back with so much digital noise ... ugh. It was horrible. Now, no worries! nicely done -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Leave the Light On
On Dec 4, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Very nice image, Nick. I didn't realize the Walmart machines correct mistakes for the photographer. How nice of them. All automatic processing machines average out the values. They're dumb machines. Don't know there's a light on in a dark place. Paul On 12/4/2010 8:33 AM, Nick David Wright wrote: http://blog.nickdavidwright.net/2010/12/leave-light-on.html This shot has set in my files since I shot it. It is another example of why I needed my own scanner. The machine at walmart thought this photo was a mistake and would make the file so the building was exposed properly. I tried working with the techs at the lab to get a better scan but no go. The lit area would scan completely blown out and the dark building would come back with so much digital noise ... ugh. It was horrible. Now, no worries! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome to the list. Controlling color temp with RAW shooting is fairly easy. I just shoot on auto white balance and adjust during conversion – either to my preference or, using the eyedropper, to a neutral color, like grey or white. Getting out of Linux and into PhotoShop elements, PhotoShop or Lightroom, on either a Mac or PC, will help in that regard. Paul On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Kenton Brede wrote: On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Kenton Brede kbr...@gmail.com snip It's excellent to read books for basic understanding and grounding with the equipment etc, and I support that but do try to start taking pictures as soon as possible. That's the fun part and you'll always learn by doing. With digital it's much more affordable to learn this way. Understood. I've taken over a thousand photos so far with the camera. 99.99% are crap and the rest are not quite crap. LOL But I've learned a few things. One thing I've learned is my inability to remember to change ISO and white balance. When the camera is in my hands aperture and shutter speed is all I seem to think about. White balance I've read isn't a big thing when shooting raw, but I've not been able to take one photo shot on incandecent and one on cloudy, with the same settings otherwise, look the same in Bibble. I should probably make a mental checklist to go over before every shot. snip PESO: Picture Every So Often, a solitary picture that you'd like to share for fun or get critique on. GESO: Gallery Every So Often: a collection of pictures, say from 6 - 12, but not everyone holds to that limit, myself included :-) PAW: Picture A Week: a photographer creates a collection of 52 pictures--one for each week of the year. Thank you for the clarification. :) Welcome to the list, Kent. Where in the midwest are you from? I'm from Chicago. I'm living in Omaha. My wife lived in Chicago for few years, before moving here. She really liked Chicago. My few visits have been pleasant as well. Thanks for your help. :) Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Christmas at the Mall
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Re: OT - Wedding Flowers Video
Great job Cotty. Beautiful edit, Paul On Dec 4, 2010, at 4:21 PM, mike wilson wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Cotty: Just watched and thought the video excellent: lovely scenes were chosen, great sense of pace, very informative, all elements blended well together -- sound, image, voice over etc. Excellent work. Cheers, Christine What did you expect? He's a bleedin' artist! - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: OT - Wedding Flowers Video I know some of you like to keep an eye on my latest work - a series of online videos for a British celebrity wedding designer. First, flowers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81welfMh-dg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Christmas at the Mall
On Dec 4, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Very effective: it certainly tells the whole story. Nice color, and lots of interesting detail. Palm trees for Christmas decoration Sure, Bethlehem. Actually, the palms are there year round. Paul Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12044123size=lg k-5 with DA* 16-50, ISO 2500, f8 @ 1/40th, 16 mm http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12044123size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT request: Resources for
On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:48 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I see the smiley, but I have to put in a good word for Photo.net. I've been with them for many years, and they've served me well. The interface is fast and easy and the photos can be displayed at a good size. More importantly, when I had some serious copyright issues, they helped me solve them and went after the perps. At another time, they deleted some things from the archives that had posed a problem for me. Good site, good people. Sorry, this was incorrectly quoted first time out. Yeah, I was a little puzzled. I'm still puzzled. They censored your words? Good God, man, what did you say? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: John Celio has been having pdml grief
Tell him to kill the fatted calf and send the tenderloin to Doug. Paul On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I got the following message from him on facebook: Has the PDML been working for the last couple days? I appear to have been kicked off when neovenator.com was transfered to a different registrar, which messed up everything for a while. I tried resubscribing yesterday, but nothing happened. I tried unsubscribing a couple times today, but still nothing is happening. I don't know what to do to get back in. :( -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Romania/Austrika
I found this to be a fascinating set – not at all typical of travel pics and certainly not narcissistic. There is something profound about the pairings. I found myself looking for the linkage, and I was disappointed when the slide show concluded. The only two that I would eliminate are the forest and the lake. They just don't fit. Love the shot of the crowd, where only one man in the rear is in focus. My eye immediately searched for the point of focus, and its discovery was rewarding and interesting in that the subject was looking back at me. Well done. Paul On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Luka - Carlos is a quite harsh -- but I agree with him to the extent that you should have pruned a bit more - because your best work is so very strong... and you know I'm a fan. But there are certainly more than 1 or 2 keepers, Carlos! I had a bit of problem viewing the slideshow - because of the wide white borders and I have a strong preference for seeing a stream of images that read left to right instead of up and down. I also wanted to be able to look at each photo alone... as I often liked one of a pair much better than the other... if for no other reason than I could say I really liked one of them and could do so by grabbing a link to show you. Like the second photo on the page where the guy on top is guzzling a beer. The shot below it is terrific... also the one where there are all those chairs on a roof top - ann Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Thanks guys. @carlos: i appreciate your opinion, although my goal here was not really to post the best photos necessarily, but to try and create a short essay/narrative. i mainly focused on the pairings and the flow of the slide show. i can accept that i've failed at that too, if that's your opinion. thank you, anyway, of course! On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es wrote: El 02/12/2010 3:09, Luka Knezevic-Strika escribió: A short photo-essay in diptychs from my trip to Austria and Romania: http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (click on the first slideshow - austria romania) I am an admirer of your work, but this time I think there are only a few keepers in your trip photos, perhaps 1 or 2. Many of them look like the usual narcissistic, dispensable pics you can see by miriads looking at Flickr pages. Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, that's not my intention, I try hard to be constructive and friendly but I think a frank opinion is the best possible thing amongst friends. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Teleconverters?
The A 2X teleconverters are very good optically. Of course because you're adding glass, a lens plus converter can never match the performance of the lens alone, but the A 2X converters are among the best I've seen. Note that I said converters, because there are two. The A2X-L can only be used with certain long telephoto lenses. It has a long snout and can't be attached to other Pentax lenses. The A2X-S fits all Pentax lenses. I use the A2X-S once in a while with an A400/5.6. It yields good results. My photo of a dragonfly that's on the opening page of the Pentax Gallery and in their Premier Collection was shot with this combination on an *istD. Paul On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I wouldn't put it to use immediately, but I've got my eye on a Pentax 2X Teleconverter-A. I know nothing about teleconverters. General advice would be welcome as well as comments specifically about this one. I haven't really done any wildlife photography, but it's on my agenda, and I imagine it could be put to use in that connection. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net P.S. I got a Weston Master II exposure meter and manual of eBay. Both look in good condition. It's been suggested that even it didn't work one of these, or something like it, would help me understand exposure better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Teleconverters?
On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:23 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: The A 2X teleconverters are very good optically. Of course because you're adding glass, a lens plus converter can never match the performance of the lens alone, but the A 2X converters are among the best I've seen. Note that I said converters, because there are two. The A2X-L can only be used with certain long telephoto lenses. It has a long snout and can't be attached to other Pentax lenses. The A2X-S fits all Pentax lenses. I use the A2X-S once in a while with an A400/5.6. It yields good results. My photo of a dragonfly that's on the opening page of the Pentax Gallery and in their Premier Collection was shot with this combination on an *istD. Thanks, Paul. It's the 2X-S.Looks like the price is going to turn out to be reasonable. And *my* camera is a *ist DS. Can you use a teleconvertor with a zoom? Sure. I haven't done use it with a zoom, but I don't see why not. Now that you mention it, I'll have to give it a try with my DA* 60-250. Might be a good combo for wildlife. Of course, it would be manual focus only. Paul -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Teleconverters?
The A2X-S and A2X-L were originally the same price if I recall. I don't think the L is better glass, just different. It has the long snout to optimize its use with lenses that have the recessed rear element. That group includes more than just the *** lenses, and not all of the latter. Paul On Dec 2, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Just to add a quick thought to Paul's solid advice, the Pentax A2L is considerably better glass, but the price goes UP accordingly. This converter, however, is made to be used with Pentax * lenses with recessed rear lens element. You've doubtless considered it, but the lesser powered converters (1.7, 1.4) tend to produce somewhat better IQ at the obvious loss of power. Jack --- On Thu, 12/2/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Teleconverters? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 7:23 AM The A 2X teleconverters are very good optically. Of course because you're adding glass, a lens plus converter can never match the performance of the lens alone, but the A 2X converters are among the best I've seen. Note that I said converters, because there are two. The A2X-L can only be used with certain long telephoto lenses. It has a long snout and can't be attached to other Pentax lenses. The A2X-S fits all Pentax lenses. I use the A2X-S once in a while with an A400/5.6. It yields good results. My photo of a dragonfly that's on the opening page of the Pentax Gallery and in their Premier Collection was shot with this combination on an *istD. Paul On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Eric Weir wrote: I wouldn't put it to use immediately, but I've got my eye on a Pentax 2X Teleconverter-A. I know nothing about teleconverters. General advice would be welcome as well as comments specifically about this one. I haven't really done any wildlife photography, but it's on my agenda, and I imagine it could be put to use in that connection. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net P.S. I got a Weston Master II exposure meter and manual of eBay. Both look in good condition. It's been suggested that even it didn't work one of these, or something like it, would help me understand exposure better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's the going rate?
On Dec 2, 2010, at 5:33 PM, David Parsons wrote: You don't join professional organizations to impress clients and customers. The ASMP isn't going to throw prospective leads your way, that's not what they do. They provide information and organize events for members. Either it's worth it to you or not. It has nothing to do with getting business. If you want that, you join a marketing association. Exactly right. Paul On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:47 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Walter Gilbert Hmm ... $335 a year. At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off putting that money toward a car for the time being. But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz. -- Walt I spend more than $335 a year just on coffee, and I don't even drink Starbucks. I'm talking McDonalds/Dunkin Donuts/Quickie Mart prices here. You can join the first year as an Emerging Associate at $140/year. After the first year you can be an Associate as a Professional with less than 3 years publication experience, part-time professional or non-professional at $225/year. Best deal is as a Student Associate. You can join at $45/year and can remain a Student Associate for one year after graduation before moving up to the Emerging Associate level for the next year, and then on to Associate member for the next three years. And you may never get to the General Membership level where the dues are $335/year. I think Annie has other money management issues beyond the cost of ASMP dues. And any of those memberships will get youwellnothing. Those who hire photographers couldn't care less if their ASMP members. They just want to see a portfolio. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Hanukkah
Best holiday wishes to all. Paul On Dec 1, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Frank, You beat me to it! Happy Hanukah to all. Bob Lynn On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:44 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: In about 10 hours it will be Hanukkah here. Somewhere in the world it's already started. Tonight we're trying potato and broccoli latkes, vegan cholent and home made macaroons for dessert. Should be yummy! Whatever you're having, enjoy this first night of lighting the Menorah. Happy Hannukah, Judy and Frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's the going rate?
On Dec 1, 2010, at 2:19 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Walter Gilbert Hmm ... $335 a year. At the moment, it's a bit beyond my range. I think I'd be better off putting that money toward a car for the time being. But, now I know what happened to Annie Leibovitz. -- Walt I spend more than $335 a year just on coffee, and I don't even drink Starbucks. I'm talking McDonalds/Dunkin Donuts/Quickie Mart prices here. You can join the first year as an Emerging Associate at $140/year. After the first year you can be an Associate as a Professional with less than 3 years publication experience, part-time professional or non-professional at $225/year. Best deal is as a Student Associate. You can join at $45/year and can remain a Student Associate for one year after graduation before moving up to the Emerging Associate level for the next year, and then on to Associate member for the next three years. And you may never get to the General Membership level where the dues are $335/year. I think Annie has other money management issues beyond the cost of ASMP dues. And any of those memberships will get youwellnothing. Those who hire photographers couldn't care less if their ASMP members. They just want to see a portfolio. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about flash photography
On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:14 PM, David Parsons wrote: Wouldn't it be tons easier to simply use an umbrella? Yes. An umbrella would work just fine. I've also used two umbrellas and monolights for stage pics.. Still relatively simple and better yet. But Boris needs something extremely simple and inconspicuous for this children's show. A diffuser will suffice. Or, if he gets his K-5, he can probably handle it with available light. Paul On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I hate those shadows. Shooting in an auditorium or gymnasium, with high ceilings and nothing useful to bounce against, these are always a pain to work with. I've not found that the on-flash diffusers help very much, even the LumiQuest big-bounce. Oh, they do help some, but they're just not really big enough to spread the light out relative to the subject. My solution is a bit of business to manage, really should have an assistant. I bought a 6x4 foot piece of semi-translucent white plastic sheet at a local plastics supply shop and rigged a simple frame for it using a boom, a lightstand and a couple sand bags ... liberally treated with gaffers tape. I set it up over my position and pump the flash up into it, aimed at the subject from as close a distance as I can manage to get them all in the frame. If it's not enough light, I put a couple more lights on stands pointed into it. (manual flash techniques at that point...) With a couple of pops to get the exposure right and a small flash pointed directly to get some sparkle, it helps kill the black outlines. It works well for group shots in those locations. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! The holidays are coming near and I'm having a couple of gigs at Galia's class. One involved shooting the general rehearsal of the little musical they've been making. Given the fact that the hall was empty I could shoot as I pleased. So I also shot a number of shots from the distance. My flash is Metz 40 MZ-2 which is a good flash. In particular it auto-zooms as per the actual focal length taking into account the crop factor of the camera. However, the ceiling of the hall wasn't the ideal surface for bouncing and the distance (10m and upwards) was too much to play the bounce game. So I ended up with many properly exposed shots but with this ugly shadow behind everyone and everything. Is there a way to at least make these shadows less prominent during the shoot? I reckon the likes of diffuser are necessary but I'd rather ask someone who has direct experience with this, as I am total klutz to all things flash. Thanks. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso: What, no K5?
Very nice. I'm surprised you could get that close with a 135. Was it alive? :-)) Paul On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/ K7, FA135 2.8 -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anyone ever dealt with the Montclair Who's Who in Photography scammers?
On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:23 AM, eckinator wrote: sounds a lot like facebook except the scam is less subtle... Nothing like Facebook. Montclair wants to empty your pockets. Facebook just provides a venue for others who want to empty your pockets, but you're free to ignore them. Paul 2010/11/30 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: All very similar to the 'Who's Who of High School Seniors'. For a 'small' fee your child could be listed and you could buy a book! It was a snail mail offer... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I'm guessing that a lot of people on the PDML have received email from the Montclair Publishing Who's Who con artists. (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=140) They say you're being considered for inclusion in the next edition of their book, please call for an interview, etc. Like most people I just delete the email (and report them for spamming) but there are several sites on the web from people who called back for the interview that detail the rest of the scam: Basically, one has to buy membership for an exorbitant fee to be included. Anyway, if anyone has dealt with this scam operation I'd be interested in hearing about it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
I like both of these. Love the warm lighting on the street shot and the empty feeling. I think you exposed the ice cream display perfectly, with the bright colors of the ice cream popping out from the dark environment. Paul On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Since I posted two pesos you can be brutal on one and honest on other. You choose which is which though :-). On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. With these, I can be one or the other, but not both. You pick which it's going to be. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Conowingo Dam
Excellent pics, nevertheless. The vulture is fascinating. Ugly beast. And while I know you can top that eagle pic, it's a keeper. Paul On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Christian wrote: Hi all; It's been a long time since I've posted a PESO or GESO. I've been crazy busy with traveling for my new job, going to exciting places like, Miami, New York City, Chicago, Paris and Frankfurt. Because of that, my time for photography has suffered except for the occasional tourist snaps. Also, my time on the PDML has been infrequent and I apologize for not commenting on the many beautiful PESOs, GESOs and PAWs I've seen in the past few months. The weekend before Thanksgiving I decided to remedy all that by going to Conowingo Dam in Maryland to photograph Bald Eagles. I've put my thoughts about the trip along with some photos on my blog. Not my best work but enjoy it nonetheless. http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/2010/11/conowingo-dam-november-2010.html -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BH memory card deal -- BACK in stock
On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Briefly: the 10-class 8GB TRanscend SDHC is back in stock at BH. I just decided to try (despite my liking of SanDisk cards) and placed an order for 3 of them. Igor Right you are. BH says my order for two cards has been filled. Like you, I normally buy SanDisk, but this price is too good to pass up. In regard to failures, I've had one Transcend card and one Sandisk card fail. But the SanDisk class 6 cards seem faster than the Transcend class 6. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What's the going rate?
I would estimate that $50 per shot would be the max for book usage. Very few pay more for a part-page photo. Many pay less. In any case, specify usage as first North American rights. That way you retain ownership and can sell them again if someone else sees them and wants to use them. Paul On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I just got an email from the senior editor of a publishing house (Hachette Book Group in NY) stating some interest in possibly using some of the photos I took at the local political rallies at the end of October. She wrote asking for copies of three particular images, with the possibility of using others and asked how much it would cost to use them in an upcoming book. Given the fact that I'm a babe in the woods when it comes to this sort of thing, I thought I'd pick the brains of those of you who've had some experience in this arena. I've already put in a call to an attorney friend to see if he had any guidance on dealing with this (he was in conference and is supposed to call me back). Now, I just need to know how to get a fair price out of my work. They she said she's not certain that they'd use them, but would like to consider them. I certainly don't want to give them any reason not to use them by overshooting on the price, but at the same time, I don't want to take less than I can get from what appears to be a fairly large publishing house. So, what should I do? I don't know if it makes any difference, but the shots are being considered for a book being (ghost?) written by (for?) a newly elected senator about the grassroots movement that got him elected. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated on this. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mark's Platinum Printing Workshop Report
Well done. A good read. Paul On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/11/27/platinum-printing-workshop-at-the-george-eastman-house-a-report/ Now also on TOP, albeit in a shorter, less idiosyncratically-written version: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/11/workshops-at-geh.html The TOP article was supposed to come out last week and I asked Miserere to hold off the version on his web site until weekend. But the TOP article ran late -- those who know Mike J. won't be much surprised ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White Balance on K-7
On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light. I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive. It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto, but still yellow. All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving. More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,- and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow. Has anybody experienced anything of this sort? What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)? What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking some of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get some variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion. Paul Igor (Sorry for the duplicated message, - the previous one had a corrupted Subject/header) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Can
Thanks David. And thanks to all who had a look. Paul On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Made me laugh. Nice smile as always. DAVE On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:08 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12016762 k-5, DA* 16-50, ISO 4000, f4, 1/200th, 50mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White Balance on K-7
On Nov 29, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Mon Nov 29 09:52:30 CST 2010 P N Stenquist wrote: On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All, While shooting an argentine tango performance over the weekend I set the WB of my K-7 to Tungsten light. I was surprised to see that while ~80% of shots were with about the right color, some considerable number of shots had a distinctive. It was not as red as it would have been if I left the WB to be on Auto, but still yellow. All the shots were taken under the same condition: in the same room, from the same point, with no light changing, just the couple moving. More over,- some series of shots were made with the the couple in place ,- and some have the WB alright, and some - are yellow. Has anybody experienced anything of this sort? What could be the reason (besides some malfunction of the camera)? What fills the frame affects white balance. If the dancers were blocking some of the light on some shots and more fully lit on others, you'll get some variation of color temp. Easy enough to correct during conversion. Paul Paul, Yes, that could do it in principle, but it doesn't make sense in the current situation. Since I _fixed_ the WB to a particular setting, very slight changes shouldn't affect the WB. To better illustrate what I observe, - let me show you this image: http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/WB-problem-2010-11-27.jpg No WB or exposure settings were changed in this sequence. These photos were not modified. Yes, one can correct the WB, but it is not how it should work, isn't it? Igor You're right. Something is out of whack here. I never shoot anything expect AWB and RAW, so I can't tell you if my camera shares this problem. When I have time, I'll give it a try under some tungsten lighting. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: this K-5 is incredible
Excellent shot. On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Another one from the lock at Lanaye. One single hand-held shot, no tripod, no HDR, no plug-ins, no nothing. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/23095897 K-5, SMC-M 2/35 mm, f 4, 1/15 sec, ISO 1600 As always... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: another K5 sample
Nice photo. Well composed shot of a fun moment. Much warmer color temp than neutral, but I like that. Where did you take the eyedropper reading. His grey sweater would probably work if you were aiming for neutral tonality. Paul On Nov 27, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Just the kids and Leo playing on the floor. ISO 6400 and color corrected using the eyedropper in Lightroom3. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5Samples#5544321147680826578 Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Recovering from Thanksgiving and Black Friday
Sounds like a great day. I'd love to see Driving Miss Daisy, but I doubt I'll be in NY any time soon. When I was working at a NY agency we frequently worked on Black Friday. I remember threading my way through the crowd at full speed from 53rd and Lex to the Port Authority at 42nd and 9th. I think the tourists look at high-speed on-foot commuters as rude, but we just wanted to get home! Paul On Nov 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I hope everyone here in the US had a great Thanksgiving, and is on the road to recovery. After a nice traditional meal at home (turkey and much, much more), with family and friends, we had a full Black Friday (The traditional start of Christmas shopping in the US). My idea of shopping is going on line, or doing it the old-fashioned way -- by catalogs. Nevertheless, yesterday I found myself in the belly of the beast. In the morning, my wife and her friend hit Flemington (a country town nearby with lots of factory outlets) for some quick bargains, while I did some yard work. Then, we headed into the City. On Black Friday. Insane. We took the train into The City, then walked from Penn Station the 25 blocks or so to The Park. Broadway was almost impassable at points, with shoppers, tourists and theater-goers. We had an early -- and hearty -- dinner at the Russian Tea Room (slightly to the left of Carnegie Hall, and just south of the park). Then, since we had some time, we headed over to Fifth Avenue, which was even more festive, and every bit as crowded, as Broadway. We stopped to enter the confusion and chaos of the busiest store in the City: the flagship Apple Store at Fifth Avenue and 58th. (http://images.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/gallery/images/photo1.jpg). If there is a recession, you couldn't tell from this place; there was a line of people entering, and we could hardly move around on the main retail floor, below street level. We then walked south on Fifth Avenue, past all the expensive fashion and jewelry stores, to St Pat's and Rockefeller Center, which was also mobbed. The tree was up but undecorated, the skaters were waltzing on the ice below the square, and shoppers and tourists bumped into one another every few inches. Even before the lighting of the big tree, the decorations were sumptuous. Finally, we fought our way back to 45th and Broadway, to the Golden Theater, and the ultimate goal of the evening: Driving Miss Daisy, with Vanessa Redgrave and James Earl Jones. It is a very good play, but that is quite besides the point. Watching two of the greatest actors of our time playing against each other was an overwhelming experience, and everything we had hoped for. Finally, the hour and a quarter train ride home, to warm up and loosen up in the hot tub before collapsing in exhaustion. Quite a day for three old fogies from Jersey and Baltimore. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: interval shooting
Cool. I forgot that feature was available. Well done. I'll have to give it a try. Paul On Nov 26, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: The red buttonish thingy, I believe, is supposed to pop out when the turkey is done. If not that, it's the turkey version of the evil eye to keep turkey germs away while the turkey is waiting to be bought, stuffed, and cooked. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: Re: interval shooting Nice cutting technique =) What's that red buttonish thingy in the bird? Cheers Ecke 2010/11/25 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: Nothing fancy, but I did try the interval shooting. Could be fun with the right subject. I wanted to do it when stuffing the bird, but I'm in a galley kitchen and didn't have the patience to finesse the camera angle with the tripod. Still, I like this feature. http://caguila.com/caguila/interval/index.html About an hourish to go, then it's off to the folks house with the bird. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HSM -- Restart?
HI Morris, Make sure your manual/automatic switch isn't set wrong or in between the marks. If that's not it, focus manually a few times and see if the HSM comes back. Paul On Nov 26, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Morris Galloway wrote: Is there a 'kink' or 'trick' to getting the HSM to work again once it has failed... other than a trip to C.R.I.S.? The Patient is a 16-50 DA*. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Birmingham Fire
Thanks David. I was hesitant to post pictures of a fire, because it's such a tragedy. But I found the fire department's response commendable, and there were no injuries, so all of the loss is monetary and cultural. BTW, I found that the smoke made rendering somewhat difficult. Had to pump up contrast and exposure a bit to get decent results. Paul On Nov 24, 2010, at 5:16 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I like the framing in 1554 Dave On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:05 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A beautiful old house in Birmingham, Michigan was completely gutted by fire earlier today. Four local towns sent equipment and water was pumped from a number of hydrants, some almost half a mile away. By the time I arrived, the flames had been doused, but a firefighter told me they were going to have to pour water down through the roof for several hours more. The fire had started in the basement and burned up through the house. I would guess the house to be about 80 years old. It has three big fireplace chimneys, a slate roof, and copper gutters and sits on a large corner lot. Kids' bikes could be seen in the garage, along with taped boxes. The boxes had me wondering if the family had recently moved in. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=989146 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Thanksgiving PDML!
Right back at you Christine. Just gonna convert some pics, then it's time to put the turkey on! Paul On Nov 25, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. I'm off to cook a bird, listen to some music, and contemplate all I'm grateful for. I know some of you don't celebrate Thanksgiving; no matter--I'm wishing everyone a great day today! Big cheers, Christine from Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Thanksgiving Morn, K5 low light autofocus
Grace and Grandma study the ads that came with today's papers. ISO 4000, f4 @ 1/15th, K5 with DA* 16-50 @ 50mm. The room was quite dark, as the exposure and ISO indicate, but the K5 had no problem autofocusing on Grace's eye. That's bubble gum she's playing with. I was also able to focus on only slightly contrasty objects in the dark corners of the room. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12002754size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Getting a K-5 for review; any requests?
The K-5 images are very sharp. I've found that they require much less sharpening in conversion than did those of k10, k20 or k7. Of course you'll find numerous sky is falling conversations about any new camera on the lunatic fringe forums. A handful of jpegs can't prove or disprove anything. Too many variables. Ignore the opinions of others – including me – and take pictures. That's always the best way to go. Paul On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: - Mensaje original De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com I convinced BH to lend me a K-5 for review and it should arrive tomorrow (Monday). I won't have it as long as other cams I've tested (it's going back on Dec 15th) so I'm trying to streamline this review as much as possible and keep out any superfluous fluff. If any of you guys have any particular requests for things you'd like me to check that you think *must* be included in a self-respecting review, I'd love to hear from you. I am reading some 'the sky is falling' comments about the quality of the K-5 jpg-engine and a supposed too strong AA filter (whatever it means). So if you can comment on your impression about the quality of the in-camera jpgs and the ability to produce sharp images it will be greatly welcome. Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Side lit in the Morning
Unusual and attractive. Brilliant color. At first glance, it could be mistaken for an aerial view of eroded terrain with some vegetation. Well done. Paul On Nov 24, 2010, at 4:35 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Its been awhile Taken in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Utah http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11999552 K20D, 200mm/f4.0 ED Macro SMCP A* on Gitzo 3530LS tripod with Bogen 3275 head. 1/20, f16, 400 ISO Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Birmingham Fire
A beautiful old house in Birmingham, Michigan was completely gutted by fire earlier today. Four local towns sent equipment and water was pumped from a number of hydrants, some almost half a mile away. By the time I arrived, the flames had been doused, but a firefighter told me they were going to have to pour water down through the roof for several hours more. The fire had started in the basement and burned up through the house. I would guess the house to be about 80 years old. It has three big fireplace chimneys, a slate roof, and copper gutters and sits on a large corner lot. Kids' bikes could be seen in the garage, along with taped boxes. The boxes had me wondering if the family had recently moved in. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=989146 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It's my Pentax lucky streak again
What made you aware of the stabilizer problem? Paul On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: My dealer exchanged my first K-5 today because of a stabilizer problem. Just tested the new one. The rear thumbwheel is erratic. Didn't need much explanation, though. He has the same thumbwheel trouble with his private K-7. Fortunately he has enough K-5 in stock, so we should be fine for a few more exchanges. All of my Pentax DSLRs (DS, K10D, K-7) have been exchanged at least once. With all due respect, Pentax, your Q.C. is a mess. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interview with Kerrick James
Well done. A good read. Paul On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Miserere wrote: Going live in a few minutes: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/11/15/shedding-light-on-kerrick- james/ A nice mix of film and digital images if you don't feel like reading. Enjoy! --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - perfect pizza
Thanks Brian. The pizza is made in a wood fired oven and is pretty darn good. Paul On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:36 -0500, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: K-5 and DA* 60-250, ISO 3200 I've shot pics in this pizza place before. Always bounced flash off the ceiling. With the K-5, I just went with the available light. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11944334 -- The owners of the pizza place should talk to you about using that photo in their advertising! Great shot - a look of pure ecstasy. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Her Audience
I like it. Great legs and a nice moment. Paul On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:39 AM, frank theriault wrote: After seeing the Erwitt exhibit I had the opportunity to walk around my old neighbourhood and do a bit of street shooting. Didn't get much, but this one was fun: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/11/her-audience.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - perfect pizza
Thanks Boris. Grace's palate is very limited at the moment: pizza, chicken nuggets, hot dogs, macaroni and cheese, plain white rice, peanut butter, strawberries and apples. That's about it. But she does eat a lot of fruit, so I guess we should be thankful for that. Paul On Nov 14, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Well, Galia's gonna bake us something for coming Friday... ;-) Lovely photo. Sometimes one has to take extreme measures, even take their (grand) child to pizza to make them eat ;-). K-5 proves to be a blast in your capable hands, Paul. Boris On 11/14/2010 4:36 AM, paul stenquist wrote: K-5 and DA* 60-250, ISO 3200 I've shot pics in this pizza place before. Always bounced flash off the ceiling. With the K-5, I just went with the available light. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11944334 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
peso - all together now
K-5, DA* 60-250, f6.3, 1/500th. ISO 400, flash in high synch mode http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11944332size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
peso: eye contact
Underexposed this by about two stops because I inadvertently spun the shutter speed dial. Saw the display blinking but didn't want to pass up the shot. Pumped it up in conversion. K-5 and DA* 60-250, ISO 1600, f4 @ 1/2500 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11940070 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 K-5 samples at iso 100
On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:16 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Stig and Dario, I'm unclear why the focus point is different between the pictures, Since I started dialing in autofocus for all my cameras and lenses, I've noticed that no two cameras are alike. One or the other of yours -- or more likely both -- aren't center focusing. Given manufacturing tolerances, I doubt that any camera can focus with complete accuracy without fine adjustment. Paul but I do notice the purple fringe difference. Side by side at 100% in Lightroom 3.2, the K-5 image is sharper. I don't know If I did something or it's the camera. Here is another side by side comparison at iso 100. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5Samples#5538294079680649922 and http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5Samples#5538294128551463634 Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:25 AM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote: The focus point is different in these two pictures so I am not sure different levels of purple fringing is related to the camera. Stig Vidar Hovland Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Dario Bonazza [dario.bona...@virgilio.it] Sendt: 11. november 2010 08:11 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: K-7 K-5 samples at iso 100 .. and I see much thinner purple fringing in the K-5 picture. This could be another newly-discovered plus. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 K-5 samples at iso 100
My pics were all shot with AWB, and I assume that the difference in tonality was due to the way the camera handles that. In regard to the high ISO pics that included the tabletop, I can say with certainty that the K5 was more accurate. I always shoot with AWB, so I'd prefer to see how the camera handles that, although a comparison at the same setting or with manually adjusted white balance would be interesting. I generally set white balance during conversion, either to my taste or using a gray or white object in frame. In critical situations, I shoot a gray card or manually adjust prior to shooting. Paul On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:07 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: Assuming that LR defaults were used to process both RAW files, it would be interesting to see the old color chart photographed by both cameras. I'm especially curious about the RED response. (Of course, it must be remembered that the three channels are all monochrome through different color filters). I'd also like to know the WB on each camera (for optimal testing it should not be on automatic, but both set on Daylight, for example. We really aren't getting enough info about the camera settings or the processing to eliminate the possible variables from being a factor. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 K-5 samples at iso 100
I don't test, scientifically or otherwise. I provided a few pics because there was some interest here. Now I'm strictly in shooting mode. Paul On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:36 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:22 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My pics were all shot with AWB, and I assume that the difference in tonality was due to the way the camera handles that. That's my point. You can shoot and post-process any way that you like (of course) but if we are going to be scientific about our comparisons we would want to eliminate all of the variables that we can between the two shots and assume nothing. (I always get in trouble when I assume anything). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Price Slashed
Don't count on a big price reduction soon. BH sold out their first shipment already. Paul On Nov 11, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Jack Davis wrote: I just checked the K-5 price at Amazon. Hurry and beat the rush, they dropped the price by $17.52!!! Well, it may be the first pebble in a price landslide. ;) Seriously, I do like the trend. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: After bombs away
On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Eric Weir wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:16 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Color had been around for a long time. There were lot's of Color photographs shot by all sides during WWII. Thanks, Paul. And Charles, too. That's Peter. I'm Paul. No Mary. Paul -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My Auto Guy
I'm surprised he doesn't have the Helen Waite sign. Actually, just charging for the bulb and not the labor is a good deal. Gotta cover the inventory cots, even if you're doing someone a favor. Most mechanics who remain in business for more than a couple of years are pretty honest. They have to be. I worked for a service industry trade mag many years ago. Met a lot of mechanics. A good group of guys for the most part. Paul On Nov 10, 2010, at 10:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: A lot of the smaller repair shops here were i am have signs like those. I don't think they felt guilty. In 2008, i bought $1100 worth of truck tires at a Firestone shop. He noticed one of my brake lights had burnt out. I said might as well throw a bulb in while i'm here. Charged me the $2.49 for it. I thought after dropping $1100 that might not get on the bill, oh well. Dave On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: As I sat in this area waiting for my car, I got the feeling these signs were YELLING at me and were intended to intimidate. I think he's dealt with the public just a little too long. :( I had the camera and flash in the car, so with the owner's permission took a couple shots. He thought it was funny when I told him what I intended to do with the shot. Actually a good guy. Well, I didn't get yelled at and surprisingly my repair was free. Tried to force a @20 on him, but was no use. They put a new bolt and nut on the starter of my wife's 240SX. I wonder if it's possible they feel guilty about some past charges. Nah, auto mechanics with a conscience? Right! A bit of human interest(?) Comments? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=542 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
peso - jack @ 13, k-5 @ ISO 5000
Jack, the dog my daughter rescued from a dumpster about a dozen years ago, is now about 13 and his health is failing. Snapped a pic of him last night as he was resting on the carpet. The light is just dim tungsten from an adjacent room. K-5 with DA* 16-50, ISO 5000, f4.5 @ 1/30th. I did my usual conversion on this one: some adjustment of exposure, midrange values, black point, color temp, etc. A bit of sharpening as well. Cropped to about 80% of frame. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - jack @ 13, k-5 @ ISO 5000
But I didn't include a URL: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11929650size=lg On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:07 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: Jack, the dog my daughter rescued from a dumpster about a dozen years ago, is now about 13 and his health is failing. Snapped a pic of him last night as he was resting on the carpet. The light is just dim tungsten from an adjacent room. K-5 with DA* 16-50, ISO 5000, f4.5 @ 1/30th. I did my usual conversion on this one: some adjustment of exposure, midrange values, black point, color temp, etc. A bit of sharpening as well. Cropped to about 80% of frame. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - jack @ 13, k-5 @ ISO 5000
On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 10, 2010, at 12:09 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: But I didn't include a URL: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11929650size=lg On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:07 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: Jack, the dog my daughter rescued from a dumpster about a dozen years ago, is now about 13 and his health is failing. Snapped a pic of him last night as he was resting on the carpet. The light is just dim tungsten from an adjacent room. K-5 with DA* 16-50, ISO 5000, f4.5 @ 1/30th. Was that a typo? Looks more like ISO 500 than ISO 5000. No typo, it's ISO 5000. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - In the Petit Palais, Paris
Very nice. An intriguing composition. Paul On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:09 PM, Bob W wrote: Chris found the perfect place for you today... Nice one, Rick. Lately I've been wanting a romantic weekend in Paris with my husband. Nice composition here. Cheers, Christine It's cold and wet, but still enjoyable. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11923313size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Flaneurs
Wonderful. Makes me want to visit again. I like them all, but great to see Notre Dame all cleaned up and without the scaffolding. Paul On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Bob W wrote: Doctor, I've just spent the day in Paris with an American called Rick, what could it mean? Bon chic, bon genre: http://www.web-options.com/Flaneurs/ Cheers, Ingrid -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:34, Boris Liberman wrote: No, it does not make K-7 junk. After all, it is a piece of gear that works as per its design and specifications. It is just that the sensor of K7 is really lagging in certain qualities that I happen to value. In short, I am not happy about K-7. I kind of used it because it had no real alternative up until the K-5 came out. The difference between K-7 and K-5 as illustrated by Paul and others (in visible image quality, Charles, not in measurement) is so significant that it leads to me to totally write off the former from my list, in a manner of speaking. I hope I clarified things for you somewhat. I guess I can see that... I find it fascinating how differently the camera is perceived based upon so many variables. For me (all-green images from something being broken notwithstanding) the K7 is a marvelous camera and a great step up from the K10D. Weird. All the same, the K5 looks great. I'll probably buy one in 2 years (or whatever follows it) when the price is a bit less stratospheric! Frankly, I'd have a hard time selling a new camera to The Wife after just getting a new camera. :-) -Charles The K-7 offered huge advantages in use over the K20 or K10 because the exposure is very accurate. That's priceless. In good light, the images are fine. Although I have to admit that with my car photography for magazines, I had to clip the highlight level to about 247 to avoid printing highlights that looked like blank paper. But the results were still quite nice. Paul -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sad Eyes
A lot of good things going on here. The concept, the color, the shadow of the twig. Very nice. Paul On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Great color, wonderful title, impressive find. Dan On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:57 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/sad-leaf.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. *istD, Tamron SP 90mm f2.5, Manfrotto monopod. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film for landscape and for portraits
For color portraits, I used Portra 400 or Portra 160 in the natural tonality versions with my 6x7. In BW, I used a lot of Plus-X, although that is now extinct. On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Adam Montoya wrote: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: I have just ordered 10 roll og slidefilm for my new 67. I've read that Fuji Astia is specially good for skin tones. Will it do well for landscapes as well? I will scan all my 6x7 images. Maybe color negs were the better choise. Which colour film would you use for 1) Portraits 2) Landscape Since you are going to scan, I'd try some Ektar 100. I have had good luck with it in 35mm. Here is a sample scan: http://www.mountainfort.com/People/Angela/10652967_ykUXQ#741211272_JmNud-A-LB . -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-7 vs. K-5 at ISO 200
I posted two pairs of comparison pics. Some disclaimers. On the K-5 fireplug pic I had the exposure comp set at -0.3, and the meter chose 1/250th at f5.6 rather than the 1/200th @ f5.6 that the K-7 meter chose. Exposure comp on the K-7 was at zero. For the house pics, the cameras were both set to zero exposure comp, but the K-5 still chose to expose it slightly less. None of the exposures are the least bit problematic. I was thinking last weekend that I might use +0.3 as a standard exposure comp on the k-5. Time will tell. For now I'm leaving it at zero. The color difference is clear. The K-7 pics are warmer. That, of course, can be adjusted to personal taste in conversion. I think the k-5 color is a wee bit more accurate, but it would take more careful testing to be sure. When I shoot something that's color sensitive, I use a gray card to set color temp, so it's pretty much irrelevant to me. In terms of quality, they're all just fine IMO. The K-7 pic of the house appears to be slightly sharper at the focal point, which was the front door, but the k-5 pic of the fireplug appears to be slightly sharper at the focal point which was the hex on the fireplug cap. The K-7 performed admirably, as it has for the past 23,700 frames I've shot with it. I'm keeping it, although I do love the K-5 a bit more. No real challenges here in regard to highlights and shadows, but that's true of most of the pics I shoot. Still happy to have the extended DR of the K-5, but it's obviously not needed all of the time. Paul And the url is http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=968481 Click once to open and again to get a larger size. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Nov 9, 2010, at 4:31 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: That K-7 image looks like my old K200D at ISO 1600. (Which would make it a 2 stop improvement) but still an unfortunate amount of noise, in my book. Those who think the K-7 image looks GOOD have to be K-7 owners. : ) I'd rather see a comparison between the K-x at 6400 and the K5 at 6400 and see how much improvement an extra $1000 makes. Noise is only a small part of it. You also get better exposure control, weather sealing, better build quality, better write speed, better battery life and you don't get lumped in with people who buy red cameras:-). Paul Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Nov 9, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sure, but I'd like to see the K5, Kr, and Kx compared as well. I mean, my K7 has all that other stuff and it's a terrible camera. My K-7 is a very good camera, not perfect, but very good. I wouldn't trade it for Kx. Paul On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:53 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Nov 9, 2010, at 4:31 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: That K-7 image looks like my old K200D at ISO 1600. (Which would make it a 2 stop improvement) but still an unfortunate amount of noise, in my book. Those who think the K-7 image looks GOOD have to be K-7 owners. : ) I'd rather see a comparison between the K-x at 6400 and the K5 at 6400 and see how much improvement an extra $1000 makes. Noise is only a small part of it. You also get better exposure control, weather sealing, better build quality, better write speed, better battery life and you don't get lumped in with people who buy red cameras:-). Paul Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Nov 9, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Nov 9, 2010, at 16:15, P N Stenquist wrote: On Nov 9, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Sure, but I'd like to see the K5, Kr, and Kx compared as well. I mean, my K7 has all that other stuff and it's a terrible camera. My K-7 is a very good camera, not perfect, but very good. I wouldn't trade it for Kx. Paul I concur. My dad has a Kx and it's interesting to handle and use but... I wouldn't trade my K7 for it, even with the lauded low-light capabilities of the Kx. But I'd also never try to shoot the K7 at 6400. That would and does look like crap. It's okay in BW for subjects where grain is a nice touch. Got good results with it shooting some club performance pics. But color is a no- go. Paul -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - how long?
Thanks Dan. She was talking to her father in Scotland. That's a delicate issue around here given our previous legal battles with him, but we encourage her to stay in touch. It's hard to get her to spend more than a couple minutes talking to him. I doubt that she understands much of what he says. He has a very thick accent. Paul On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Another stunning portrait, Paul Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:55 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Before she wants one of her own? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11915816 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. One pic each of the same scene from each camera, shot off a tripod with the DA* 16-50 at f5.6, 1/60th. (Both meters agreed on that exposure.) The FOV varies slightly, because I turned the zoom ring a bit when removing the lens from camera one. The K-7 pic is 22mm, the K-5 is 21mm. In addition to one shot from each, I've combined the two images for direct viewing of both at once. I've sized the jpegs slightly larger than my normal web pics for better detail viewing. Both are raws, converted with the default settings of my ACR softwre. The scene is a cluttered part of my basement, with illuminated ( and dusty:-) foreground objects and deep shadows in the background. In the shadows are some white surfaces that readily show noise. There's also a hot highlight in the background -- a light reflected in a mirror. Ugly pics, but telling examples. Note that the K-5 renders colors warmer and, as Boris suggested earlier, the unprocessed pic appears to have less contrast. K-7 image: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11920154size=lg K-5 image http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11920153size=lg Both together: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11920155size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Nov 8, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: That noise right at the top is most telling to me. At least I found it the easiest to see scrolling up and down on my Mac, My reaction: the K5 shot is clearly better but the K7 shot is OK. I'm surprise the difference is not more extreme, given what I've been reading. Looking at the (fanfold paper?) under the cocacola clock, and the other objects on the counter really show the difference. It's true: the K-7 is not horrible at 6400. I've said that before, and I've sot with it at that ISO. But the K-5 is close to noise free. Look also at the side of the freezer -- the white object to the far right -- and the ceiling tiles above. Note also the way the highlight in the mirror has pretty much burned out in the K-7 pic, but has a bit of tonality in the K-5 pic. This is very evident in a 100% look at the full-size image. Granted Boris doesn't spend as much time shooting in light as represented by the upper right corner of the frame as I do, but that's where my interest lies. The results might be different if he was just shooting that corner of the room and exposed accordingly. However, since I'm broke, I might as well not be able to afford a 645D as a K-5. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: K-7 image: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11920154size=lg K-5 image http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11920153size=lg Both together: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11920155size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5, K-7, side-by-side at ISO 6400
On Nov 8, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Boris asked me to provide a direct comparison. So here it is. The tabletop looks horribly grainy. Yes, it was solid color:-). Seriously, the tonality of the tabletop is near perfect in the k-5 pic and too blue/green in the k-7 pic. Both were shot with AWB and rendered with default settings, so I would assume the AWB of the k-5, at least in this instance, is improved. The lighting is from 5500K fluorescent bulbs. Paul Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus fine adjustment
I checked manual focus with the 85/1.8 wide open. I achieved good focus on a majority of shots at a target. My eyes are a limiting factor here. I'm old:-). But if the screen is off, it would be by a very small amount. Paul On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 11/7/2010 1:34 PM, paul stenquist wrote: I'm going to check the screen for manual focus. I'll let you know. Paul Thanks, Paul! I think it will prove beneficial for you as well, as even the best electronics may require an occasional human intervention... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k-5 autofocus fine adjustment
Yes. I'll send it to you as a high res jpeg. I made my own. I just shoot it at a 45 degree angle. Target on the floor. Camera on a tripod. There are even better devices available that utilize a scale thats on a 45 degree angle and a vertical target. I might build something like that. But the target on the floor works. Paul On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:42 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I adjusted the camera for all six of my autofocus lenses this morning. i did it with the target I've used before. Is this available somewhere.?? Dave Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question.
On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Paul, if you adjust the files for maximum dynamic range, the K-5 will have more dynamic range and less contrast than the K-7. Neither file will be usable in that state. As a practical matter more dynamic range moves the choice about what to blow from exposure to post. -Adam That makes sense. I don't think about the technology when I convert pics or process them further after conversion. But I know what I want, and choices are a good thing. I was happy with the K-7 files for the most part, and, while it's early, I'm even more pleased with those from the K-5. If I can wring the pic I want out of the RAW, I'm happy. Paul On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I see no real difference in contrast levels between K-5 and K-7 raw files. And how flat or contrasty the final image might be can be controlled completely in conversion. It's not an issue. I shot most of yesterday's images in shade with no flash fill, so they were inherently somewhat flatter than what I might generally produce. However, when the sun stepped in, contrast levels were quite high. For example: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11910635 On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Don't know if the lack of contrast you reference is so significant as to be obvious in casually examining prints, but I have noted, in what relatively few K-5 images I've viewed, contrast has appeared somewhat low and the image, of course, a bit flat.(?) Jack --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca Subject: Re: On K-5 dynamic range. Somewhat tangential question. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 10:18 AM On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, so a camera with so many bits of RAW can do what then? Discern 2^so many shades, right? Exactly. And the dynamic range is about when it goes to saturation either to pure black and pure white. Pure white and indistinguishable from noise (not pure black). The noise floor determines the actual dynamic range's low end. Ok, so tell me then, the wise people of PDML, is there a way looking at the same picture shot with K-7 and K-5 to tell them apart? Or better yet, how do I /see/ that one camera has wider DR than the other and that more BPS in RAW are more beneficial than less BPS in RAW in real life. And how all that translates to actual print? The bit depth of the RAW files shows up in subtle gradations of colour and in shadow noise. You get more subtle colour/tone resolution and less shadow noise with a higher bit depth ADC than with less (the shadow noise improvement is due to exactly how ADC's work with linear imaging sensors, you lose luminance resolution at low luminance values. Digital delivers superb resolution of bright tones and poor resolution of dark tones). In the real world, shadow noise is the easiest to see, especially on a camera which can shoot in both 12 and 14 bit modes like many Nikons. More dynamic range allows you to make less trade offs in exposure at shooting time. The more DR you have, the more you can hold detail in both the highlights and the shadows at the same time. The downside is the self-same image will be lower contrast when rendered and you usually have to make those trade offs in post instead. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DxO results for K-5
On Nov 6, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Miserere wrote: On 5 November 2010 12:29, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: wrong link last one Woops! Let's try again: http://tinyurl.com/2vy7qjv What I find amazing is how the Kx seems to outperform the Kr. And at high ISO even outperforms the K5 in dynamic range. If you lose a stop of dynamic range and a stop of SNR for every stop of ISO, why not just shoot at the base ISO and underexpose? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est One reason I don't put all that much stock in DxO's tests is the variance in performance of cameras with known-identical imaging chains. Although the Kx and Kr results are very close. I figured it was just normal margin of error for their testing, and it would seem to be a reasonable margin of error. Paul -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso My wedding album
Well done! If the hired-gun photographer blew it completely, they'd still be left with lots of memories. Paul On Nov 6, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: David J Brooks wrote: My PJ type shots from Erin and James' wedding last weekend. http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2010-erinandjames/album/index.html WARNING; GRATUITOUS NUDITY ON PAGE FIVE, REGIMENTAL SCOTSMAN. YOU ARE FOR WARNED. Excellent, Dave. Any party that brings out the fire department has to be a good one! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5 birthday at ISO 1600
Well, happy birthday to her. Fun pics. Good memories. Paul On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Actual birthday is today. Happy birthday to Darrel too. Bob S. On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: wow! more impressive high iso shots. And send a big happy birthday to Rachel. Today is Darrel's birthday, though he's several hundred years older than your lovely daughter. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: K5 birthday at ISO 1600 Here are some shots from last night's celebration. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/ K5Samples#5536503030601713330 ISO 1600 31mm f2.5 @ 1/50 to 1/100th with minor tweaks in LR3.2 Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K10D-K-5 size
It's smaller. It would be too small for me without the grip, but with the trip it's excellent. It's shaped better than previous Pentax DSLRs -- more of a built in grip that is properly proportioned. The same as the K-7 if you've tried that. Paul On Nov 6, 2010, at 4:28 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Is it bigger, smaller, the same.?? I found the istD to small, but the K10D just right. Go for it guys Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 'miracle'
On Nov 6, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Miserere wrote: On 6 November 2010 16:47, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: This fortunate Spanish K-5 owner tried to recover a picture where the flash didn't fire when it was supposed to do (it wasn't charged). They challenged the camera for fun and were surprised by the results: http://www.pentaxeros.com/forum/index.php?topic=37916.0 ¡Coño! :-o But for the record, DxO Mark is still worthless. Here's an interesting piece that seems to say the same thing, albeit more diplomatically :) http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2009/12/lumolabs-sensors-of-nikon-d700-d5000.html This guy seems to know what he's talking about. He does appear knowledgeable, although his analysis is obfuscated to the point where it's difficult to judge the accuracy of his conclusions. In any case, they seem to be more or less in line with DxO. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5 autofocus observations
The sun warmed things up a bit this afternoon so Grace and I went to the park. I shot a number of action pics. The K-5 seemed to be able to lock in good focus on 7 to 8 tries out of 10. That's considerably better than the K-7, which was somewhat better than the K20D. It didn't nail every shot perfectly -- some included pretty violent motion right at the camera -- but it never left me in the lurch. It always locked in. Results for spot and continuous were similar. Perhaps a slightly higher percentage of misses with continuous. But operator error comes into play here as well, and the sample is still relatively small. But I'm pleased. The first eight pics in this folder are from today. All are action, except the one of Grace sitting on the rail. A noteworthy achievement: she tried to sled down the astroturf hill standing up. First time. Almost made it. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=643396 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 autofocus observations
Thanks Stan. I always preselect the focus point. Top point, with the camera in a vertical position on all of these. Most are in the S mode. A couple were in C mode. Didn't have much trouble locking in in S mode, so I stuck with it for the most part, but wanted to try continuous as well. Of course continuous will allow the shutter to fire even if it's not locked in. (That's the way I have it set in custom functions. Might change that.) Paul On Nov 6, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Nice! What AF setting? Are you pre-selecting the focal point? stan On Nov 6, 2010, at 5:51 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: The sun warmed things up a bit this afternoon so Grace and I went to the park. I shot a number of action pics. The K-5 seemed to be able to lock in good focus on 7 to 8 tries out of 10. That's considerably better than the K-7, which was somewhat better than the K20D. It didn't nail every shot perfectly -- some included pretty violent motion right at the camera -- but it never left me in the lurch. It always locked in. Results for spot and continuous were similar. Perhaps a slightly higher percentage of misses with continuous. But operator error comes into play here as well, and the sample is still relatively small. But I'm pleased. The first eight pics in this folder are from today. All are action, except the one of Grace sitting on the rail. A noteworthy achievement: she tried to sled down the astroturf hill standing up. First time. Almost made it. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=643396 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
