Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-06 Thread Larry Colen 



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I'm a fan of the peaty Islays. Laphroig 10 is my favorite.


A man after my own heart -- and palate.

For variety, I rotate among Laphroiag, Lagavulin and Ardbeg.  Each is
quite different but equally pleasing.
Lagavulin 16 is what I have before me right now.


Lagavulin 16 is about my favorite.

Bowmore Legend is pretty damn good for $20/bottle.



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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-06 Thread Paul Stenquist 
I like Lagavulin 16, and it was once my favorite, but it's price has doubled in 
the last 10 years. It's about $90 here. Ardberg is good, but I've only had it a 
few times. 

Paul via phone

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:46 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist  
>>> wrote:
>>> I'm a fan of the peaty Islays. Laphroig 10 is my favorite.
>> 
>> A man after my own heart -- and palate.
>> 
>> For variety, I rotate among Laphroiag, Lagavulin and Ardbeg.  Each is
>> quite different but equally pleasing.
>> Lagavulin 16 is what I have before me right now.
> 
> Lagavulin 16 is about my favorite.
> 
> Bowmore Legend is pretty damn good for $20/bottle.
> 
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-06 Thread Bob W-PDML 
On 6 Jan 2016, at 07:45, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking more along the lines of whisky flavoured Coke rather than 
> whisky drowned in Coke.
> 
> Never tried "substances". They have a terrible concoction here in the 
> townships called Nyope. Esssentailly dagga (cannabis) + tik (amphetamine) but 
> a trace of coke (the white powder) is added for good measure. Now there are 
> thousands of unsuspecting coke addicts who are turning to crime on a large 
> scale to feed their habit.
> 

I have read more carefully. At first glance I saw this as "thousands of 
unsuspecting coke addicts who are turning to crime on a large scale to feed 
their rabbit"

B
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
BLASPHEMY!

There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
> My father used to make a fudge like candy that was pretty much just brown
> sugar, milk and some butter.
> He would put a little vanilla extract into it from time to time, but that
> was a rare occasion, generally because he wasn't using a dark sugar.
> One of the little stocking stuffer gifts my wife gave me for Christmas was
> some fudge candies from Scotland made by the distillery Edradour. They use a
> small amount of their Scotch as a flavoring.
> I decided I needed to try making this myself, so, remembering vaguely what
> the proportions were supposed to be (3 parts brown sugar, 1 part milk, and a
> blob of butter cooked to soft ball stage and then whipped after cooling to
> the point it was warm but not hot) I set out on a culinary experiment.
> I didn't have any Edradour, but I did have some Aberfeldy, and some quick
> math told me that 3/4 of a teaspoon was about what I wanted.
> And boy was I right.
>
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Larry Colen 



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

BLASPHEMY!

There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.


You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.


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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread John Francis 
On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:11:35AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >BLASPHEMY!
> >
> >There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
> >sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.
> 
> You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.


It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" - 
that is uniformly excellent across the entire spectrum.

As Larry can attest, I've got a fair few excellent examples on my shelves.
Amongst those I've also got several bottles that I don't personally like,
but this is basically a matter of style, not of quality.  Even among the
ones that fall into my favourite taste bracket (the lighter Speyside malts,
for example, not the heavily peat-flavoured Islay brands) there is a great
difference between, say, a bottle of Glenfiddich (which I no longer keep)
and the bottle of Glenmorangie 1971 single-vintage we treated ourselves to
as a house-warming present 20 years ago (and which still tastes wonderful).


On the other hand, I've also encountered a couple of examples over the years
where I felt that the only real use of the liquid in question would be as
paint stripper or drain cleaner.  And whereas most of the objectionable
qualities would probably be negated (or at least masked) if they were used
as ingredients, I prefer to err on the safe side, and follow Julia Child's
maxim:  If you wouldn't drink it, you shouldn't be cooking with it!


P.S. I'd be happy to provide an objective viewpoint on Larry's ice cream...

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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Alan C 
I was thinking more along the lines of whisky flavoured Coke rather than 
whisky drowned in Coke.


Never tried "substances". They have a terrible concoction here in the 
townships called Nyope. Esssentailly dagga (cannabis) + tik (amphetamine) 
but a trace of coke (the white powder) is added for good measure. Now there 
are thousands of unsuspecting coke addicts who are turning to crime on a 
large scale to feed their habit.


Alan C

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:


Have you tried Coke?


Yes, quite often, especially Coke Zero, but never with Scotch!

[Or did you mean the white powder, in which case, no, have you?]


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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Alan C 
Well, you taught me something there. I've seen people with a long nail on 
their pinkie (for whatever reason) but hadn't heard that terminology before.


Alan C

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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:

Have you tried Coke?


Apparently you haven't noticed Daniel has a coke nail to rival Carrie
Fisher's. Or maybe that is just to scratch his inner ear.
(I'm kidding of course. I have no idea what Daniel's hands look like).


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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>
> Have you tried Coke?

Yes, quite often, especially Coke Zero, but never with Scotch!

[Or did you mean the white powder, in which case, no, have you?]


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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Bill 

On 1/5/2016 6:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Bill  wrote:

That would involve buying a bottle of lesser whisky. As good little
consumers we should not be enabling mediocrity.


There are a few blendeds that are a bit above "mediocre."



They seem nearly as dear as a decent single malt.
For the teaspoon of whisky that goes into a batch of fudge, I'm thinking 
a little blasphemy goes a long way.



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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Apparently you haven't noticed Daniel has a coke nail to rival Carrie
> Fisher's.

When I was brushing up on the guitar, I let the nails grow on my right
hand, and cut them very short on my left hand.  Thank produced lots of
jokes in that vein.  [pun intended.]

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Darren Addy 
I have to agree with Daniel's sentiments (below). I thought that
Lagavulin neat tasted pretty much like melted styrofoam smells. I
didn't get the appeal/reputation. But while at an amateur astronomer
acquaintances I had the same stuff with a splash of distilled water.
WOW what a difference! I'm no scotch expert, by any means, but I enjoy
the Macallen 15-year straight, but it is a completely different beast
than the peaty north coast scotches.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> Scotch should be diluted with water,
>
> Like many, I am convinced that a bit of water is needed to "open up" a
> fine single malt.  I prefer just a "splash."  I respect those who
> prefer it neat, and also those who prefer a lot more water.  Every
> scotch drinker should follow his own palate.  I think that ice,
> however, kill the subtleties of a good scotch, and mixers defeat the
> purpose of paying for a fine single malt.
>
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I'm a fan of the peaty Islays. Laphroig 10 is my favorite.

A man after my own heart -- and palate.

For variety, I rotate among Laphroiag, Lagavulin and Ardbeg.  Each is
quite different but equally pleasing.
Lagavulin 16 is what I have before me right now.

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Bill 

On 1/5/2016 6:20 PM, John Coyle wrote:

And I thought I was alone in not liking very peaty malts!



I find the really peaty ones smell like Dettol. I don't have a lot of 
use for the Islay whiskys.



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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Alan C 

Have you tried Coke?

Alan C

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Subject: Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:

Scotch should be diluted with water,


Like many, I am convinced that a bit of water is needed to "open up" a
fine single malt.  I prefer just a "splash."  I respect those who
prefer it neat, and also those who prefer a lot more water.  Every
scotch drinker should follow his own palate.  I think that ice,
however, kill the subtleties of a good scotch, and mixers defeat the
purpose of paying for a fine single malt.

Dan Matyola
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Re: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Darren Addy 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Have you tried Coke?

Apparently you haven't noticed Daniel has a coke nail to rival Carrie
Fisher's. Or maybe that is just to scratch his inner ear.
(I'm kidding of course. I have no idea what Daniel's hands look like).


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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, John Francis <jo...@panix.com> wrote:
> It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" -
> that is uniformly excellent across the entire spectrum.

That is quite true, but the subject of this thread is "A great use for
good Scotch," and I therefore limited my comments to GOOD scotch.

A agree that there is s W  I  D  E  spectrum of taste and style, even
among good -- or excellent -- single malts.  I prefer the "peat
monsters" from the southern shore of Islay, but I also find
Glenmorangie quite appealing.  (I agree Glenfiddich is no very
satisfying, and would rather select a blended whisky.)

For a Rob Roy or for flavoring a dessert, I would use a decent blended
whisky rather that wasting a good single malt.

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Paul Stenquist 
I'm a fan of the peaty Islays. Laphroig 10 is my favorite. Just for grins I 
tried a Speyside, a Macallan 12, last weekend -- my first single malt way back 
when. This time around I found It so sweet I could barely finish it. (However, 
I manned up and choked it down.) I do like Balvenie, another Speyside. I'm fond 
of Highland Park, which is from some other island. Orechney? When I worked on 
the Dodge ad account we always had Highland Park at company parties. Back then 
our client was based in Highland Park ... Michigan.

Paul via phone

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:20 PM, John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> And I thought I was alone in not liking very peaty malts!
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:56
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> Subject: Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:11:35AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> BLASPHEMY!
>>> 
>>> There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to 
>>> be sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.
>> 
>> You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.
> 
> 
> It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" - 
> that is uniformly
> excellent across the entire spectrum.
> 
> As Larry can attest, I've got a fair few excellent examples on my shelves.
> Amongst those I've also got several bottles that I don't personally like, but 
> this is basically a
> matter of style, not of quality.  Even among the ones that fall into my 
> favourite taste bracket (the
> lighter Speyside malts, for example, not the heavily peat-flavoured Islay 
> brands) there is a great
> difference between, say, a bottle of Glenfiddich (which I no longer keep) and 
> the bottle of
> Glenmorangie 1971 single-vintage we treated ourselves to as a house-warming 
> present 20 years ago
> (and which still tastes wonderful).
> 
> 
> On the other hand, I've also encountered a couple of examples over the years 
> where I felt that the
> only real use of the liquid in question would be as paint stripper or drain 
> cleaner.  And whereas
> most of the objectionable qualities would probably be negated (or at least 
> masked) if they were used
> as ingredients, I prefer to err on the safe side, and follow Julia Child's
> maxim:  If you wouldn't drink it, you shouldn't be cooking with it!
> 
> 
> P.S. I'd be happy to provide an objective viewpoint on Larry's ice cream...
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Bill  wrote:
> That would involve buying a bottle of lesser whisky. As good little
> consumers we should not be enabling mediocrity.

There are a few blendeds that are a bit above "mediocre."

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
> Scotch should be diluted with water,

Like many, I am convinced that a bit of water is needed to "open up" a
fine single malt.  I prefer just a "splash."  I respect those who
prefer it neat, and also those who prefer a lot more water.  Every
scotch drinker should follow his own palate.  I think that ice,
however, kill the subtleties of a good scotch, and mixers defeat the
purpose of paying for a fine single malt.

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RE: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread John Coyle 
And I thought I was alone in not liking very peaty malts!

John in Brisbane




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On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:11:35AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >BLASPHEMY!
> >
> >There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to 
> >be sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.
> 
> You have obviously never tried our homemade Lagavulin ice cream.


It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" - that 
is uniformly
excellent across the entire spectrum.

As Larry can attest, I've got a fair few excellent examples on my shelves.
Amongst those I've also got several bottles that I don't personally like, but 
this is basically a
matter of style, not of quality.  Even among the ones that fall into my 
favourite taste bracket (the
lighter Speyside malts, for example, not the heavily peat-flavoured Islay 
brands) there is a great
difference between, say, a bottle of Glenfiddich (which I no longer keep) and 
the bottle of
Glenmorangie 1971 single-vintage we treated ourselves to as a house-warming 
present 20 years ago
(and which still tastes wonderful).


On the other hand, I've also encountered a couple of examples over the years 
where I felt that the
only real use of the liquid in question would be as paint stripper or drain 
cleaner.  And whereas
most of the objectionable qualities would probably be negated (or at least 
masked) if they were used
as ingredients, I prefer to err on the safe side, and follow Julia Child's
maxim:  If you wouldn't drink it, you shouldn't be cooking with it!


P.S. I'd be happy to provide an objective viewpoint on Larry's ice cream...

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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Bill 

On 1/5/2016 3:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, John Francis <jo...@panix.com> wrote:

It's a mistake to assume there is a single thing - "single malt Scotch" -
that is uniformly excellent across the entire spectrum.


That is quite true, but the subject of this thread is "A great use for
good Scotch," and I therefore limited my comments to GOOD scotch.

A agree that there is s W  I  D  E  spectrum of taste and style, even
among good -- or excellent -- single malts.  I prefer the "peat
monsters" from the southern shore of Islay, but I also find
Glenmorangie quite appealing.  (I agree Glenfiddich is no very
satisfying, and would rather select a blended whisky.)

For a Rob Roy or for flavoring a dessert, I would use a decent blended
whisky rather that wasting a good single malt.


That would involve buying a bottle of lesser whisky. As good little 
consumers we should not be enabling mediocrity.



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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-05 Thread Bill 

On 1/5/2016 10:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

BLASPHEMY!

There is only one use for single malt Scotch whisky, and that is to be
sipped slowly, neat or with a tiny splash of water.


Interesting you should bring that up.
I was listening to a CBC program called Ideas one time on Robbie Burns day.
They were interviewing cellar masters at various whisky distilleries. 
Every one of them said Scotch should be diluted with water, though there 
was some diversity of amount, but the number ranged from 25% to 50%, and 
of course they preferred water was what the distillery was drawing to 
make their product.


So there you go.

http://www.scottishgourmetusa.com/product/edradour-whisky-fudge-gift-tin-for-sale-in-usa/Scottish-candy-and-chocolates

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OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-04 Thread Bill 
My father used to make a fudge like candy that was pretty much just 
brown sugar, milk and some butter.
He would put a little vanilla extract into it from time to time, but 
that was a rare occasion, generally because he wasn't using a dark sugar.
One of the little stocking stuffer gifts my wife gave me for Christmas 
was some fudge candies from Scotland made by the distillery Edradour. 
They use a small amount of their Scotch as a flavoring.
I decided I needed to try making this myself, so, remembering vaguely 
what the proportions were supposed to be (3 parts brown sugar, 1 part 
milk, and a blob of butter cooked to soft ball stage and then whipped 
after cooling to the point it was warm but not hot) I set out on a 
culinary experiment.
I didn't have any Edradour, but I did have some Aberfeldy, and some 
quick math told me that 3/4 of a teaspoon was about what I wanted.

And boy was I right.


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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-04 Thread ann sanfedele 

I'm watching my mail box

ann

On 1/4/2016 10:38 PM, Bill wrote:
My father used to make a fudge like candy that was pretty much just 
brown sugar, milk and some butter.
He would put a little vanilla extract into it from time to time, but 
that was a rare occasion, generally because he wasn't using a dark sugar.
One of the little stocking stuffer gifts my wife gave me for Christmas 
was some fudge candies from Scotland made by the distillery Edradour. 
They use a small amount of their Scotch as a flavoring.
I decided I needed to try making this myself, so, remembering vaguely 
what the proportions were supposed to be (3 parts brown sugar, 1 part 
milk, and a blob of butter cooked to soft ball stage and then whipped 
after cooling to the point it was warm but not hot) I set out on a 
culinary experiment.
I didn't have any Edradour, but I did have some Aberfeldy, and some 
quick math told me that 3/4 of a teaspoon was about what I wanted.

And boy was I right.





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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-04 Thread Darren Addy 
http://oldtymefudgerecipes.com/liquorfudgerecipes.php#whiskeyfudge



On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I'm watching my mail box
>
> ann
>
>
> On 1/4/2016 10:38 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>> My father used to make a fudge like candy that was pretty much just brown
>> sugar, milk and some butter.
>> He would put a little vanilla extract into it from time to time, but that
>> was a rare occasion, generally because he wasn't using a dark sugar.
>> One of the little stocking stuffer gifts my wife gave me for Christmas was
>> some fudge candies from Scotland made by the distillery Edradour. They use a
>> small amount of their Scotch as a flavoring.
>> I decided I needed to try making this myself, so, remembering vaguely what
>> the proportions were supposed to be (3 parts brown sugar, 1 part milk, and a
>> blob of butter cooked to soft ball stage and then whipped after cooling to
>> the point it was warm but not hot) I set out on a culinary experiment.
>> I didn't have any Edradour, but I did have some Aberfeldy, and some quick
>> math told me that 3/4 of a teaspoon was about what I wanted.
>> And boy was I right.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: OT: A great use for good Scotch

2016-01-04 Thread ann sanfedele 

not the same as if Bill makes it..:-)

ann

On 1/4/2016 11:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

http://oldtymefudgerecipes.com/liquorfudgerecipes.php#whiskeyfudge



On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:11 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I'm watching my mail box

ann


On 1/4/2016 10:38 PM, Bill wrote:

My father used to make a fudge like candy that was pretty much just brown
sugar, milk and some butter.
He would put a little vanilla extract into it from time to time, but that
was a rare occasion, generally because he wasn't using a dark sugar.
One of the little stocking stuffer gifts my wife gave me for Christmas was
some fudge candies from Scotland made by the distillery Edradour. They use a
small amount of their Scotch as a flavoring.
I decided I needed to try making this myself, so, remembering vaguely what
the proportions were supposed to be (3 parts brown sugar, 1 part milk, and a
blob of butter cooked to soft ball stage and then whipped after cooling to
the point it was warm but not hot) I set out on a culinary experiment.
I didn't have any Edradour, but I did have some Aberfeldy, and some quick
math told me that 3/4 of a teaspoon was about what I wanted.
And boy was I right.




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