Re: Devil's Punchbowl

[lrc]

Thanks. Three years later it's hard to remember my motivations, but that was 
the trip I went north to bury my mom so I might not have focused as much on 
trimming down the gallery as I might otherwise

On May 24, 2024 1:37:57 PM PDT, Rick Womer  wrote:
>Larry, there are some really nice photos here.
>
>For me, though, the many near-duplicate images dilutes the impact of the whole 
>set—for example, were 11 similar shots of the raven and 8 of the eagle really 
>necessary to post?
>
>
>Rick
>
>
>> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> 
>> Those are two very well-done galleries.  Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:06 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>>> It’s been a few years since I discovered Otter Rock between Newport and
>>> Depoe Bay.  Somehow on previous visits I totally missed Devil’s Punchbowl
>>> (not to be confused with Devil’s churn in Perpetua).
>>> 
>>> At high tide, flushing the punchbowl:
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51139487905/in/album-72157719023434163/
>>> 
>>> A couple days later, closer to low tide when you can get into the
>>> punchbowl:
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51138604123/in/album-72157719023434163/
>>> 
>>> The big challenge at low tide is trying to get photos with the crowds of
>>> other people who also want to check it out.
>>> 
>>> Another lesson learned is to not only bring something to dry splashes off
>>> the lens, but to actually check it for splashes
>>> 
>>> Full set:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023434163/
>>> 
>>> and while I’m at it, some other photos from around Otter Rock
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023495363/
>>> 
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Re: Devil's Punchbowl

[Rick Womer]

Larry, there are some really nice photos here.

For me, though, the many near-duplicate images dilutes the impact of the whole 
set—for example, were 11 similar shots of the raven and 8 of the eagle really 
necessary to post?


Rick


> On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Those are two very well-done galleries.  Thanks for sharing.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:06 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> It’s been a few years since I discovered Otter Rock between Newport and
>> Depoe Bay.  Somehow on previous visits I totally missed Devil’s Punchbowl
>> (not to be confused with Devil’s churn in Perpetua).
>> 
>> At high tide, flushing the punchbowl:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51139487905/in/album-72157719023434163/
>> 
>> A couple days later, closer to low tide when you can get into the
>> punchbowl:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51138604123/in/album-72157719023434163/
>> 
>> The big challenge at low tide is trying to get photos with the crowds of
>> other people who also want to check it out.
>> 
>> Another lesson learned is to not only bring something to dry splashes off
>> the lens, but to actually check it for splashes
>> 
>> Full set:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023434163/
>> 
>> and while I’m at it, some other photos from around Otter Rock
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023495363/
>> 
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Re: Devil's Punchbowl

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Those are two very well-done galleries.  Thanks for sharing.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:06 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

> It’s been a few years since I discovered Otter Rock between Newport and
> Depoe Bay.  Somehow on previous visits I totally missed Devil’s Punchbowl
> (not to be confused with Devil’s churn in Perpetua).
>
> At high tide, flushing the punchbowl:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51139487905/in/album-72157719023434163/
>
> A couple days later, closer to low tide when you can get into the
> punchbowl:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51138604123/in/album-72157719023434163/
>
> The big challenge at low tide is trying to get photos with the crowds of
> other people who also want to check it out.
>
> Another lesson learned is to not only bring something to dry splashes off
> the lens, but to actually check it for splashes
>
> Full set:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023434163/
>
> and while I’m at it, some other photos from around Otter Rock
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023495363/
>
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Devil's Punchbowl

[Larry Colen]

It’s been a few years since I discovered Otter Rock between Newport and Depoe 
Bay.  Somehow on previous visits I totally missed Devil’s Punchbowl (not to be 
confused with Devil’s churn in Perpetua).  

At high tide, flushing the punchbowl:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51139487905/in/album-72157719023434163/

A couple days later, closer to low tide when you can get into the punchbowl:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51138604123/in/album-72157719023434163/

The big challenge at low tide is trying to get photos with the crowds of other 
people who also want to check it out.

Another lesson learned is to not only bring something to dry splashes off the 
lens, but to actually check it for splashes

Full set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023434163/

and while I’m at it, some other photos from around Otter Rock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157719023495363/

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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Kenneth Waller]

>..but decided that I didn't like the idea of plastic filters.
I don't either, so I invested in glass ones. More costly but probably the 
last time I'll spend money on ND filters.

Kenneth Waller

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> On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>> Nice composition & subject, but the white sky ruins this one for me.
>>
>> Don't have a suggestion for the sky issue but the foreground looks
>> like it
>> would have benefited from the use of a neutral density filter.
>
> It probably would have, but unfortunately not at 15mm :(  It's
> largely a scanning issue: the sky is also white on the slide because
> the weather was overcast, but it was hard to deal with such a wide
> dynamic range while scanning.  I want a DSLR that comes with an auto-
> bracket-to-HDR function.
>
> I do have a split ND, but I don't think I've ever used it.  I dislike
> the fact that I have no choice as to where the split occurs.  I
> looked at setting up a Cokin filter that I could slide up & down in
> its holder, but decided that I didn't like the idea of plastic filters.
>
>>>> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
>
> - Dave
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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[P. J. Alling]

I think for many purposes a gradient ND filter would be better, I think 
I've seen one somewhere.

David Mann wrote:

>On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Nice composition & subject, but the white sky ruins this one for me.
>>
>>Don't have a suggestion for the sky issue but the foreground looks  
>>like it
>>would have benefited from the use of a neutral density filter.
>>
>>
>
>It probably would have, but unfortunately not at 15mm :(  It's  
>largely a scanning issue: the sky is also white on the slide because  
>the weather was overcast, but it was hard to deal with such a wide  
>dynamic range while scanning.  I want a DSLR that comes with an auto- 
>bracket-to-HDR function.
>
>I do have a split ND, but I don't think I've ever used it.  I dislike  
>the fact that I have no choice as to where the split occurs.  I  
>looked at setting up a Cokin filter that I could slide up & down in  
>its holder, but decided that I didn't like the idea of plastic filters.
>
>  
>
http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1


>
>- Dave
>
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>
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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Shel Belinkoff]

So, why not paint in a sky that's similar to the one that was in the
original scene?  Actually, you could have made two exposures, one for the
scene and one for the sky, and used the original sky.

FWIW, over the past few months I've taken a few shots of the sky for just
the very purpose.  Several pics I've posted have fried skies painted in,
sometimes with the sky that was in the scene, sometimes with one of my
"stock" skies.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: David Mann 

>> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> > but the white sky ruins this one for me.
> > Don't have a suggestion for the sky issue

>  the sky is also white on the slide because  
> the weather was overcast, but it was hard 
> to deal with such a wide dynamic range while 
> scanning.  I want a DSLR that comes with an 
> auto-bracket-to-HDR function.



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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[David Mann]

On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

> Nice composition & subject, but the white sky ruins this one for me.
>
> Don't have a suggestion for the sky issue but the foreground looks  
> like it
> would have benefited from the use of a neutral density filter.

It probably would have, but unfortunately not at 15mm :(  It's  
largely a scanning issue: the sky is also white on the slide because  
the weather was overcast, but it was hard to deal with such a wide  
dynamic range while scanning.  I want a DSLR that comes with an auto- 
bracket-to-HDR function.

I do have a split ND, but I don't think I've ever used it.  I dislike  
the fact that I have no choice as to where the split occurs.  I  
looked at setting up a Cokin filter that I could slide up & down in  
its holder, but decided that I didn't like the idea of plastic filters.

>>> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1

- Dave



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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[David Mann]

On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> Very good shot.  I can imagine just how wet it could be.  A few years
> ago I was trying to get shots at Bridal Veil Falls in Yosemite when
> the runoff was high.  I could not keep the mist off the lens - never
> got a shot I liked.  You've done wonderfully here!

Not far from the Devil's Punchbowl fall we also have a Bridal Veil  
Falls:
http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=449
I'm not sure how close you can get to that one; after the trek out to  
the first one we really couldn't be bothered finding out.  I took  
that using the 6x7 at 180mm.

When shooting the Devil's Punchbowl, I had to face downstream while  
wiping the mist off the lens, then whip around, get a quick shot then  
whip back to wipe the moisture off again.  There's a reason why I  
chose the K2 over the Z-1p!  I'd have loved to use the RB67, but  
after all the effort of lugging it up that track, I wasn't prepared  
to open it up with all that water.

> DM> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1


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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[David Mann]

On Sep 30, 2006, at 2:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Beautiful. Great use of perspective to create drama. Is this on the  
> south island?

Yes; Arthurs Pass is about halfway between Christchurch and  
Greymouth.  The Tranz Alpine, one of the world's great rail journeys,  
passes through there.

> I'm just finishing a novel. A considerable amount of it takes place  
> on the south island in a small farming town called Ashburton, which  
> is about an hour south of Christchurch. I've had a good time  
> researching it on the web. I picked it as a location because I  
> spent a few weeks there on an advertising shoot five or six years  
> ago. Love New Zealand.

Ah yes, Ash Vegas ;)  I've been there many times, but always just  
passing through.  Not much there to interest us big-city folk ;)

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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[frank theriault]

On 9/29/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very nice indeed! Good work.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:32 AM, David Mann wrote:
>
> > http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
> >
> > You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to
> > shoot with in those conditions...

Missed the original page.  I agree with Godfrey.

Wonderful shot!

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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Kenneth Waller]

Nice composition & subject, but the white sky ruins this one for me.

Don't have a suggestion for the sky issue but the foreground looks like it 
would have benefited from the use of a neutral density filter.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"


> Very nice indeed! Good work.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:32 AM, David Mann wrote:
>
>> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
>>
>> You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to
>> shoot with in those conditions...
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RE: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Bob W]

Lovely scene, beautifully shot and well composed. It even feels cool
and damp from here.

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> 
> No pretty flowers this time around; this is real men's country ;)
> 
> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
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> You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to

> shoot with in those conditions...
> 
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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Bruce Dayton]

Very good shot.  I can imagine just how wet it could be.  A few years
ago I was trying to get shots at Bridal Veil Falls in Yosemite when
the runoff was high.  I could not keep the mist off the lens - never
got a shot I liked.  You've done wonderfully here!

-- 
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Friday, September 29, 2006, 2:32:19 AM, you wrote:

DM> No pretty flowers this time around; this is real men's country ;)

DM> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1

DM> You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to
DM> shoot with in those conditions...

DM> - Dave





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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Jack Davis]

Missed the original post Davis, but have to compliment you on the
composition. Limited range of colors, along with nice lighting, make
for a terrific shot.

Jack

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> David Mann wrote:
> > No pretty flowers this time around; this is real men's country ;)
> > 
> > http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
> > 
> > You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to
>  
> > shoot with in those conditions...
> > 
> > - Dave
> > 
> > 
> 
> Great use of foreground/background separation.  The muted tones
> really 
> add to it.  Nice shot.
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[pnstenquist]

Beautiful. Great use of perspective to create drama. Is this on the south 
island? 

I'm just finishing a novel. A considerable amount of it takes place on the 
south island in a small farming town called Ashburton, which is about an hour 
south of Christchurch. I've had a good time researching it on the web. I picked 
it as a location because I spent a few weeks there on an advertising shoot five 
or six years ago. Love New Zealand.
Paul
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> Very nice indeed! Good work.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:32 AM, David Mann wrote:
> 
> > http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Christian]

David Mann wrote:
> No pretty flowers this time around; this is real men's country ;)
> 
> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
> 
> You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to  
> shoot with in those conditions...
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 

Great use of foreground/background separation.  The muted tones really 
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Re: PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Very nice indeed! Good work.

Godfrey

On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:32 AM, David Mann wrote:

> http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1
>
> You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to
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PAW - "Devil's Punchbowl Waterfall"

[David Mann]

No pretty flowers this time around; this is real men's country ;)

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/photodb/view.php?p=557&t=1

You can imagine how hard it was to keep the 15mm lens dry enough to  
shoot with in those conditions...

- Dave


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