RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-25 Thread Norm Baugher
Ni, ni, ni, ni!!!


From: Cotty


On 22/7/11, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sometimes they call at ungodly hours and say Ni to you.


This is true and not easily forgotten!




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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-25 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Norm Baugher
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 Ni, ni, ni, ni!!!

Norm!

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-24 Thread Eckehard Wegner
eckehard:
eck as in egg(-k)
ke (e pronounced same as in egg but a little shorter yet)
hard as in hard but the r is rather silent
or at times just eck-hard

wegner
the e similar in tone but longer both times, the g as in frig and then
just go on as it reads with the r once again rather silent

cheers
ecke

2011/7/20 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2011 00:57, Larry Colen wrote:

We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and
there are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the
pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty
rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the
two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it
the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced
like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in 
Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...


Boris


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Igor Roshchin

Just in case some people didn't catch the reference,
it was an inverted dialog from the Young Frankenstein movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaPZZJVDx6Y#t=53s

Bong, - this hopefully explains who they are.

Cheers,

Igor

PS. and the complicated combination of 4 letters in my last name
(which stands for just 1 letter in Russian) is pronounced as follows:
sh - as in cash
ch - as in Charlie
These two sounds are pronounced together. That added ch makes
the sh sound softer than the first sound in the British (not American
- i.e. not sk) pronunciation of the word schedule 




 From s...@trantor.komkon.org Wed Jul 20 18:22:23 2011
 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:22:08 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
 To: PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?



 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)

 Igor


 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:

  We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are 
  a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.


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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bulent Celasun
 
 Cekoslovakyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?
 
 (Or, Makedonyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?).
 

that's easy for you to say.

What about Australazyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

B


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 23, 2011, at 02:16 , Boris Liberman wrote:

 It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in 
 Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...
 
 Boris

Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't…


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bulent Celasun
Bob,

Your version is as beautiful as the the earlier ones ;)

And, there are no limits to examples:

...kararlastirilamayabilineceginden...
...since it could not certainly be decided upon...

There are many other languages (mostly close or far relatives) that
are essentially similar in their usage of suffixes in this fashion.
Finnish, Hungarian, Korean and even Japanese comes to mind...
These are all regarded by most scholars as descending from the same
roots as Turkish.

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2011/7/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bulent Celasun

 Cekoslovakyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

 (Or, Makedonyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?).


 that's easy for you to say.

 What about Australazyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

 B


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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister
 
 Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't.
 

Yes - Russian...

B


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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Bob W
 
 Your version is as beautiful as the the earlier ones ;)
 
 And, there are no limits to examples:
 
 ...kararlastirilamayabilineceginden...
 ...since it could not certainly be decided upon...
 
 There are many other languages (mostly close or far relatives) that
 are essentially similar in their usage of suffixes in this fashion.
 Finnish, Hungarian, Korean and even Japanese comes to mind...
 These are all regarded by most scholars as descending from the same
 roots as Turkish.
 
 Bulent

a great many languages of different families are more or less agglutinative.
English has its gluey moments; German more so. It's part of the great cycle
of language evolution.

B


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:27 , Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister
 
 Perhaps the Russians know something that the rest of us don't.
 
 
 Yes - Russian...

Good one, Bob.  ROTFLMAO


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread John

I don't understand the discussion?  I generally just say your name

John


On 7/23/2011 2:22 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

On Jul 23, 2011, at 02:16 , Boris Liberman wrote:


It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in Russian 
I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...

Boris

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Rick Womer

--- On Sat, 7/23/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk
 though - in Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it
 turns out to be bOris...
 
 Boris

A Brit I knew here in the US could never get used to being addressed as berNARD 
instead of BERnard.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Exactly right, Rick... You're just right.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- On Sat, 7/23/11, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk
 though - in Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it
 turns out to be bOris...

 Boris

 A Brit I knew here in the US could never get used to being addressed as 
 berNARD instead of BERnard.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Certainly they know something the rest of the world doesn't - their
own language :-). It has to be said though that our own good friend
Jostein has most puzzling name to a non-Nordic ear. Apparently
Norwegian language has more actual vowels than Russian which in turn
has more of them than Hebrew. Thus as far as I can tell, my way of
saying his name out loud is rather bad approximation. Although I tend
to believe that Americans do it even worse, as he's certainly not
Justine...

My way is Yoo-st-eye-n which is likely wrong at least at the first vowel...

Teaching a Brit or an American to say certain sequences of consonant
and a following vowel from Russian language can be quite a challenge.

That person who decided to build a tower of Babel ought to have been
flogged :-).

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 On Jul 23, 2011, at 02:16 , Boris Liberman wrote:

 It is pretty straightforward - Boris... There is one quirk though - in 
 Russian I am borIs while everywhere else it turns out to be bOris...

 Boris

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Scott Loveless
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Some people do actually call me Steve.  Steev

 Some call me Cotty.  Various 'Kott-'  'Kadee'

 Cottrell is definitely 'Kawtrul', not 'Kawtrelll' or Koe trelll'

 Some call me anything they like.

Sometimes they call at ungodly hours and say Ni to you.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread John Sessoms
I've noticed that some characters in some names are represented as '?' 
when I receive list emails. I've tried changing my options to display 
international characters, but it's not working.


Anyone have hints how I might do this?

Or is the list server somehow stripping them out?

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread steve harley

On 2011-07-22 10:46 , John Sessoms wrote:

I've noticed that some characters in some names are represented as '?' when I
receive list emails. I've tried changing my options to display international
characters, but it's not working.

Anyone have hints how I might do this?


the answer depends on your email client (or browser, for webmail), your OS and 
what fonts you have installed ...




Or is the list server somehow stripping them out?


the listserv is handling the emails correctly -- passing along the encoding of 
the original email, which varies according to the sender; without specifics, 
it's hard to know specifically what's bollixing for your, but a quick sample 
shows the following encodings in emails on this list:


us-ascii -- (the majority) used in your email and surprisingly used by most of 
the non-US members; this encoding lacks any accented characters or 
non-typewriter punctuation (such as curly quotes)


utf-8 -- used in my email and a few others, huge character set

iso-8859-1 -- ASCII variant with a lot of Latin accented characters

windows-1252 -- superset of iso-8859-1 with more Latin accented characters

if an email is sent with the proper encoding, and your system properly 
interprets that encoding and uses fonts with glyphs that cover all the 
characters used in the email, then you should never see the '?' indications; 
otoh, an email may be sent in an encoding which doesn't cover some characters 
in the email, yet some systems may be smart enough to still display the 
intended glyphs; for example the modern recommendation when receiving 
iso-8859-1 is to assume it is windows-1252



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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Bulent Celasun
Larry,
Something like djeluhzun?

Really nice try!

dje
la (as in Lars or the musical note La)
zhun

might be even closer.

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2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
 appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
 as below:

 Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
 lent : as in land ending with a t.

 My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
 persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)

 Something like djeluhzun?

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:45:47PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
 
 a quick sample shows the following encodings in emails on this list:
 
 us-ascii -- (the majority) used in your email and surprisingly used
 by most of the non-US members; this encoding lacks any accented
 characters or non-typewriter punctuation (such as curly quotes)

In my experience, several email clients will claim to be using
a simple encoding such as us-ascii, but will still happily include
native characters that have no meaning in that character set.

The worst offenders tend to be Windows software that is actually
using the Windows character set while claiming to use us-ascii,
but I've seen other examples (one recent example being character
streams that claimed to be UTF-8, but which actually contained
high-character sequences that were invalid UTF-8; these, too,
were really Windows character encodings).


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Larry,
 Something like djeluhzun?
 
 Really nice try!

I used to date a girl whose last name was Sercan, so I guessed based on her 
name. I suppose I could have cheated and asked my friend Zeycan or Pinar how to 
pronounce it.


 
 dje
 la (as in Lars or the musical note La)
 zhun
 
 might be even closer.

Thanks.

 
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 2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 
 On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
 
 Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
 appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
 as below:
 
 Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
 lent : as in land ending with a t.
 
 My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
 persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)
 
 Something like djeluhzun?
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: steve harley

On 2011-07-22 10:46 , John Sessoms wrote:

 I've noticed that some characters in some names are represented as '?' when I
 receive list emails. I've tried changing my options to display international
 characters, but it's not working.

 Anyone have hints how I might do this?

the answer depends on your email client (or browser, for webmail), your OS and
what fonts you have installed ...




Email client is Mozilla Thunderbird 3.1.11 on Windoze XP.

I'm guessing what fonts you have installed means whether or not the 
fonts on my system include the extended characters I'm not seeing. 
Looking at my fonts using Windows Character Map, the characters are there.



 Or is the list server somehow stripping them out?

the listserv is handling the emails correctly -- passing along the encoding of
the original email, which varies according to the sender; without specifics,
it's hard to know specifically what's bollixing for your, but a quick sample
shows the following encodings in emails on this list:

us-ascii -- (the majority) used in your email and surprisingly used by most of
the non-US members; this encoding lacks any accented characters or
non-typewriter punctuation (such as curly quotes)

utf-8 -- used in my email and a few others, huge character set

iso-8859-1 -- ASCII variant with a lot of Latin accented characters

windows-1252 -- superset of iso-8859-1 with more Latin accented characters

if an email is sent with the proper encoding, and your system properly
interprets that encoding and uses fonts with glyphs that cover all the
characters used in the email, then you should never see the '?' indications;
otoh, an email may be sent in an encoding which doesn't cover some characters
in the email, yet some systems may be smart enough to still display the
intended glyphs; for example the modern recommendation when receiving
iso-8859-1 is to assume it is windows-1252




ToolsOptionsDisplay: Default font is Arial

Advanced options: Fonts for: Western
Proportional: Sans Serif
Serif: Times New Roman
Sans-serif: Arial
Monospace: Courier New

Font Control: Allow messages to use other fonts  Use fixed width font 
for plain text messages both checked.


Character Encodings:
Outgoing Mail: Western (ISO-8859-1)
Incoming Mail: Unicode (UTF-16)

I already tried UTF-8, but I still get the '?' in place of European 
characters, so I thought I'd try UTF-16 to get the larger character set. 
It's still giving me the '?'.


I'll switch incoming mail to Windows-1252 and see if that will work.

What I'm NOT seeing are characters like the slashed capital 'O' in 
Scandinavian names  whatever character was in the middle of the 
discussion of variants of McAllister that came out M??r.


None of this is any world shaking problem, but I would like to fix it. 
It's actually the little things that irritate me the most.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Bulent Celasun
So,
you probably already know that the below -rather meaningless- question
is a single word in Turkish :

Have you been among the ones that we had failed to turn into Macedonians?
(In the good old times, the country part was read as
Czechoslovakians to make the sentence look even longer).

Please pass my best wishes to Zeycan and Pinar :)

Bulent

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2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Larry,
 Something like djeluhzun?

 Really nice try!

 I used to date a girl whose last name was Sercan, so I guessed based on her 
 name. I suppose I could have cheated and asked my friend Zeycan or Pinar how 
 to pronounce it.



 dje
 la (as in Lars or the musical note La)
 zhun

 might be even closer.

 Thanks.


 Bulent
 -
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
 http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun




 2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
 appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
 as below:

 Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
 lent : as in land ending with a t.

 My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
 persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)

 Something like djeluhzun?

 --
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 So,
 you probably already know that the below -rather meaningless- question
 is a single word in Turkish :
 
 Have you been among the ones that we had failed to turn into Macedonians?

No I didn't know that.  And just for fun, what is that word?


 (In the good old times, the country part was read as
 Czechoslovakians to make the sentence look even longer).
 
 Please pass my best wishes to Zeycan and Pinar :)
 
 Bulent
 
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 2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 
 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
 
 Larry,
 Something like djeluhzun?
 
 Really nice try!
 
 I used to date a girl whose last name was Sercan, so I guessed based on her 
 name. I suppose I could have cheated and asked my friend Zeycan or Pinar how 
 to pronounce it.
 
 
 
 dje
 la (as in Lars or the musical note La)
 zhun
 
 might be even closer.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Bulent
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 2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 
 On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
 
 Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
 appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
 as below:
 
 Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
 lent : as in land ending with a t.
 
 My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
 persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)
 
 Something like djeluhzun?
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Bulent Celasun
Cekoslovakyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?

(Or, Makedonyalilastiramadiklarimizdanmiydiniz?).

:)

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2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 So,
 you probably already know that the below -rather meaningless- question
 is a single word in Turkish :

 Have you been among the ones that we had failed to turn into Macedonians?

 No I didn't know that.  And just for fun, what is that word?


 (In the good old times, the country part was read as
 Czechoslovakians to make the sentence look even longer).

 Please pass my best wishes to Zeycan and Pinar :)

 Bulent

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 2011/7/22 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Larry,
 Something like djeluhzun?

 Really nice try!

 I used to date a girl whose last name was Sercan, so I guessed based on her 
 name. I suppose I could have cheated and asked my friend Zeycan or Pinar 
 how to pronounce it.



 dje
 la (as in Lars or the musical note La)
 zhun

 might be even closer.

 Thanks.


 Bulent
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 On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
 appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
 as below:

 Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
 lent : as in land ending with a t.

 My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
 persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)

 Something like djeluhzun?

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread steve harley

On 2011-07-22 14:10 , John Sessoms wrote:

From: steve harley

On 2011-07-22 10:46 , John Sessoms wrote:

 I've noticed that some characters in some names are represented as '?' when I
 receive list emails. I've tried changing my options to display international
 characters, but it's not working.

 Anyone have hints how I might do this?

the answer depends on your email client (or browser, for webmail), your OS and
what fonts you have installed ...




Email client is Mozilla Thunderbird 3.1.11 on Windoze XP.


i use the same Tbird on Mac OS X 10.5.8



ToolsOptionsDisplay: Default font is Arial

Advanced options: Fonts for: Western
Proportional: Sans Serif
Serif: Times New Roman
Sans-serif: Arial
Monospace: Courier New


mine:
 Proportional: Sans Serif
 Serif: Myriad Pro
 Sans-serif: Bitstream Vera Sans
 Monospace: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono

on Mac OS X if a font doesn't contain a glyph, the system searches your other 
fonts for the glyph; i thought Windows had something similar, but i'm not sure 
if it is so in XP




Font Control: Allow messages to use other fonts  Use fixed width font for
plain text messages both checked.


same here


Character Encodings:
Outgoing Mail: Western (ISO-8859-1)
Incoming Mail: Unicode (UTF-16)

I already tried UTF-8, but I still get the '?' in place of European characters,
so I thought I'd try UTF-16 to get the larger character set. It's still giving
me the '?'.


i thought i had set outgoing to utf-8 but i now see ISO-8859-1 -- maybe a crash 
or update changed my setting; i have ignored the incoming setting, thinking it 
to only apply when no encoding is specified (and in such cases UTF-16 is 
unlikely to work well)


also note the menu: View  Character Encoding, particularly whether Auto-detect 
is on; i believe you can change these on the fly while viewing a message




What I'm NOT seeing are characters like the slashed capital 'O' in Scandinavian
names


i do see the correct character in Tim's emails in his From header; but header 
encoding is handled differently from the message body -- in this case the 
literal text of the From header contains an escape indicating it is UTF-8 
encoded, even though his message body is encoded as us-ascii




 whatever character was in the middle of the discussion of variants of
McAllister that came out M??r.


that latter was a pair of Unicode characters, a superscript c merged with 
almost equals, but glyphs for these characters are missing from many fonts, 
and it implies a system that can handle Unicode combining characters; i have no 
idea if that works on XP




None of this is any world shaking problem, but I would like to fix it. It's
actually the little things that irritate me the most.


i suspect it's down to the font choice in Tbird and/or XP

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/7/11, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sometimes they call at ungodly hours and say Ni to you.


This is true and not easily forgotten!

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Tim Bray
My last name is pronounced hee-haw. -T

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a 
 bell for everyone)

 i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
 perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is 
 pronounced, but sometimes i wish i had it back

 here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American 
 tribes; Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and 
 Acoma is pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them 
 right (i've been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) 
 and it seems to creep people out

 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been told 
 that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow

 Hal Pin, Hall Pin, Hell Pin . . .  all three variations are used by my 
 relatives.
 My anti-Catholic grandmother used to say that it was a contraction of the 
 Scottish (Protestant) McAlpine. I believe that Halpin is from the common 
 Irish (Catholic) name Halpin which is thought to be derived from a 
 mis-pronunciation of halfpenny. So my name has to do with money, albeit a 
 very small quantity of money.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.
 
 Hunt

Thanks, but how do we pronounce your last name?

 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 
 Subject: Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?
 
 Here's where someone makes a crack about endoscopes.
 
 That would be cheeky thing to do.
 
 Yes butt it would probably be funny

Only semi.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Toine
Simple question difficult answer, if you know how to pronounce
Antoinette, Toine should be easy. Twone maybe.
My last name Kuiper is difficult. Sometimes I hear my name on
Discovery and such if they have something about astronomy and the
Kuiper belt, the place where comets come from. It's always pronounced
as koiper which is wrong. The french pronounce it as Quipér which is
also wrong. In dutch we pronounce it as kuiper :)

Toine

On 20 July 2011 23:57, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Subash wrote:

 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:41:22 -0600
 steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not
 ring a bell for everyone)
 
 
 su as in 'full' and bash as in bar (the vowels). jey as in 'weigh' and
 an as in 'fun'. 
 
 btw, harleys have been just been introduced here in india, a year or so
 back, the cheapest of which would cost me about three years' pay. the
 duties are exorbitant, so most of that goes to the government...

If I were to sell American motorcycles there, I'd be very tempted to go for an 
Indian dealership.

 
 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? 
 
 subash - one who has a good language/uses language well
 
 jeyan - the victorious

Victorious in language?

 
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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Bob W
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there
 are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the
 pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty
 rare in Central California.
 
 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the
 two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it
 the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced
 like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.

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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Bob W
  We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and
 there
  are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the
  pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty
  rare in Central California.
 
  I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the
  two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it
  the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced
  like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.
 
 Rumpelstiltskin
 

but my friends call me Tápiószentmárton Äteritsiputeritsipuolilautatsijänkä.

B


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Bob W wrote:

 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and
 there
 are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the
 pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty
 rare in Central California.
 
 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the
 two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it
 the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced
 like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.
 
 Rumpelstiltskin
 
 
 but my friends call me Tápiószentmárton Äteritsiputeritsipuolilautatsijänkä.

Both of them?

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RE: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Bob W
  We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and
  there
  are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the
  pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty
  rare in Central California.
 
  I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but
 the
  two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce
 it
  the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's
 pronounced
  like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.
 
  Rumpelstiltskin
 
 
  but my friends call me Tápiószentmárton
 Äteritsiputeritsipuolilautatsijänkä.
 
 Both of them?

the other one calls me Bob. Can't think why.

B


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Maritim is not pronounced, Tim should be easy.

My last name on the other hand. Don't even try it. You will probably
say something very dirty ;-)

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Toralf Lund

Larry Colen wrote:

We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.
  
I find that people in most European/Western countries *except for the 
English-speaking ones* tend to get mine more or less right. Just 
pronounce all the letters without any diphtongation... And notice that 
the vovel sounds are like the open/long ones found in English.


Did that make any sense at all?

- Toralf

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two common mistakes are to 
misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  
It's pronounced like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Bong Manayon
Oh, I should have mentioned Bong (my spiel on Pedro is boring; you
don't know me by that name anyway).  It is pronounce bong and it
doesn't really mean anything.  I come from a country with door-bell
names.  Bang (usually a girl), Bong (usually a boy--a junior...more on
that later), Bing (girl) and Beng (girl); there are Dang (girl), Dong
(boy), Ding (boy again), Deng (girl) but no Dung (that could lead to
poo jokes).  But the latter is understated because we do have
nicknames which means something else in another dialect (Epot is a
short for April in Cebuano but means poo is Tagalog).

Bong is a nickname for juniors (I'm Pedro Manayon Jr.); google the
former dictator Ferdinand Marcos and he has a son, Ferdinand Jr., who
is known as Bong Bong.  That is common in the Visayan region (my dad
and the wife of Marcos came from that region); up north it is Jun.
Doubling the name (Jun Jun) just adds to its cuteness factor.  Yeah,
we have no problem here with cute names--like I have a cousin named
Baby Boy or Babes; I know folks named Cherry Pie and other names
that you would have you teased out of American high schools.  Our
current president (Benigno Aquino III) goes by his nickname Noy-Noy
which can mean little boy.  His dad, martyred by Marcos was known as
Ninoy...

We also follow popular trends and personalities, so I know quite a
number of ladies (my age) born in the early 1960s named Marilyn or
for that matter Diana in the early 1980s.  I wonder why?  :-)

Usually we are given really formal sounding names in our birth
certificate (my name is Miguel Edward Z. Rodriguez, but you can call
me 'Boy' for short...) but its rare that we move through life with it
except to sign some formal or legal documents.  We usually are known
here for our cutesy nicknames which essentially should be our real
names anyway...

Bong :-)

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 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 21, 2011, at 02:17 , Tim Øsleby wrote:

 Maritim is not pronounced, Tim should be easy.
 
 My last name on the other hand. Don't even try it. You will probably
 say something very dirty ;-)
 
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 MaritimTim


Oh! The old silent Maritim before the Tim.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Subash
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 We also follow popular trends and personalities, so I know quite a
 number of ladies (my age) born in the early 1960s named Marilyn or
 for that matter Diana in the early 1980s.  I wonder why?  :-)

i was born in 1963 and in college, there were quite a few kennedys
both in my batch and among junior batches... :)

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Fernando
I'll delurk


te-rra-'zzi-no

'te' like in 'ten'
'rra' the 'rr' sound like in 'wrong', 'a' sound like in 'ash'
'zzi' i sound like in 'hit'
'no' 'o' sound like in 'on'

Italians usually get it right ;-)


'Fernando', like in the Abba song -I know most of you are old enough
to know that one.


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Dan rhymes with Ann.  g

Matyola is a Rusyn (Ruthenian) name, originally written in Cyrillic,
and it is pronounced pretty much like it is spelled:  Mat-ee-o-luh.

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 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Mat Maessen
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names
 that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one 
 culture are pretty
 rare in Central California.

You get extra points if you can pronounce my last name properly, and
you're not from Holland, Belgium, or Germany. :-)

-Mat

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My sen?  [My rhymes with high]?
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names
 that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names which may be common in 
 one culture are pretty
 rare in Central California.

 You get extra points if you can pronounce my last name properly, and
 you're not from Holland, Belgium, or Germany. :-)

 -Mat

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Jaume Lahuerta


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Enviado: jueves 21 de julio de 2011 1:23
Asunto: Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)


We must have encountered the same they... my real name is Pedro; its
pronounced with a short e and o not paydraw.

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Here is the right way to pronounce 'Pedro':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dcAxceqSe4feature=related

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 My sen?  [My rhymes with high]?
 Dan Matyola

Nope.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Since I already tried to explain this to Boris prior to my visit to Israel, 
I'll just past what I told him at that time:

Jaume is a Catalan name, that in Spanish is Jaime, James in English, Jacques in 
French, Giacomo in Italian...Actually, my offical name (as in Passport and 
Spanish ID) is Jaime, since Catalan was forbiden for official use when I was 
born (we had a dictatorship at that time), and I never bothered to change it.
For some reason I always thought that English speakers would pronounce better 
Jaume than Jaime, since the J sounds as in James and for Jaime it sounds like 
in Javier Bardem.
But it seems that the 'au' combination fools a lot and they never know how to 
approach to it.


Jaime: Hi- met (without 't')
Jaume: ZHOW-Muh

Anyway, I found this website with audio exemples, much beter:
http://www.forvo.com/word/jaime/
http://forvo.com/word/jaume/


As for Lahuerta, the h is not pronounced:

La-where-tah


Regards,
Jaume



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Asunto: OT  How do you pronounce your name?

We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
It's Liza, with a Zee...

SCNR,
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

Pronounced John ... except by my Latino friends who pronounce it Hwan.

And then there was that cute little French exchange student who sat 
behind me in English class my last year in High School. I can't even 
begin to reproduce the way she pronounced it, but it was MUSIC!


Last name is pronounced Ses-ums; both short vowel sounds.

But, ... as long as you don't call me late for dinner, etc.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Toine

Simple question difficult answer, if you know how to pronounce
Antoinette, Toine should be easy. Twone maybe.
My last name Kuiper is difficult. Sometimes I hear my name on
Discovery and such if they have something about astronomy and the
Kuiper belt, the place where comets come from. It's always pronounced
as koiper which is wrong. The french pronounce it as Quip?r which is
also wrong. In dutch we pronounce it as kuiper

Toine


The sound of the letter 'Q' perhaps? Like the old tech guy in the James 
Bond movies.


Q-per. ?


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:04 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Q-per. ?

I loved that old video game, with the orange guy with the big nose who
hopped up and down the pyramid.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bong Manayon

Usually we are given really formal sounding names in our birth
certificate (my name is Miguel Edward Z. Rodriguez, but you can call
me 'Boy' for short...) but its rare that we move through life with it
except to sign some formal or legal documents.  We usually are known
here for our cutesy nicknames which essentially should be our real
names anyway...


I do know someone from back where I grew up whose given name on his 
birth certificate is Boy, and that's the name he's always gone by.


That's what the hospital fills in on the form until the parents decide 
on a name. Apparently his parents never did.



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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mat Maessen

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

My sen? ?[My rhymes with high]?
Dan Matyola

Nope.


Mason ... rhymes with the jar you drink moonshine out of.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/7/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

but my friends call me Tápiószentmárton Äteritsiputeritsipuolilautatsijänkä.

Yeah well, you were always a bit of a jänkä.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling

Ok, I'll play and I'll give the derivation the at the same time.

All as in Albert or Allen, ing as the word ending.

It is a made up name, but much older that Ellis Island.  I've heard two 
different derivations. Either a modification of the name Allen, or a 
shortening of the name Allingworth.  The first recording of the name is 
in New Haven Connecticut in sometime in the 1640's.  The family ledgend 
has it that Roger being a good Puritan didn't want to be associated with 
his Church of England relatives.  Personally I like to think he was an 
escaping horse thief, it's the romantic in me.



On 7/20/2011 5:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two common mistakes are to 
misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  
It's pronounced like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 My sen? ?[My rhymes with high]?
 Dan Matyola
 Nope.
 Mason ... rhymes with the jar you drink moonshine out of.

Nope. Though since enough people pronounce it that way, I don't bother
to correct them.

-Mat

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Toine
No Qper isn,t it. The K is pronounced like something like Qa more
difficult is the UI part. No idea. Per is pronounced as per in
english. Maybe Qper with the start of Q pronounced as Qa.
Dutch must be a difficult language. Not to mentions the dialects which
vary widely, in the past people had problems understanding each other.

On Thursday, 21 July 2011, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Toine

 Simple question difficult answer, if you know how to pronounce
 Antoinette, Toine should be easy. Twone maybe.
 My last name Kuiper is difficult. Sometimes I hear my name on
 Discovery and such if they have something about astronomy and the
 Kuiper belt, the place where comets come from. It's always pronounced
 as koiper which is wrong. The french pronounce it as Quip?r which is
 also wrong. In dutch we pronounce it as kuiper

 Toine


 The sound of the letter 'Q' perhaps? Like the old tech guy in the James Bond 
 movies.

 Q-per. ?


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Don't make an ass of yourself, Tim.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 My last name is pronounced hee-haw. -T

 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:20 PM, Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a 
 bell for everyone)

 i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
 perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is 
 pronounced, but sometimes i wish i had it back

 here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American 
 tribes; Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and 
 Acoma is pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them 
 right (i've been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) 
 and it seems to creep people out

 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been 
 told that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow

 Hal Pin, Hall Pin, Hell Pin . . .  all three variations are used by my 
 relatives.
 My anti-Catholic grandmother used to say that it was a contraction of the 
 Scottish (Protestant) McAlpine. I believe that Halpin is from the common 
 Irish (Catholic) name Halpin which is thought to be derived from a 
 mis-pronunciation of halfpenny. So my name has to do with money, albeit a 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:

 No Qper isn,t it. The K is pronounced like something like Qa more
 difficult is the UI part. No idea. Per is pronounced as per in
 english. Maybe Qper with the start of Q pronounced as Qa.
 Dutch must be a difficult language. Not to mentions the dialects which
 vary widely, in the past people had problems understanding each other.

I don't think I've heard Kuiper pronounced by a native Dutch speaker,
but I have heard Huygens. It seems to require the ability to sneeze
at will.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Toralf Lund

Toralf Lund wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:
We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and 
there are a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the 
pronunciation.  Names which may be common in one culture are pretty 
rare in Central California.
  
I find that people in most European/Western countries *except for the 
English-speaking ones* tend to get mine more or less right. Just 
pronounce all the letters without any diphtongation... And notice that 
the vovel sounds are like the open/long ones found in English.
Actually, that's not quite accurate for the surname, where 'd' is 
silent, while the 'u' is like English oo or ou, but shorter...


- T



Did that make any sense at all?

- Toralf
I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the 
two common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it 
the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced 
like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.



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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Toine
ROFL

On 21 July 2011 18:58, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:

 No Qper isn,t it. The K is pronounced like something like Qa more
 difficult is the UI part. No idea. Per is pronounced as per in
 english. Maybe Qper with the start of Q pronounced as Qa.
 Dutch must be a difficult language. Not to mentions the dialects which
 vary widely, in the past people had problems understanding each other.

 I don't think I've heard Kuiper pronounced by a native Dutch speaker,
 but I have heard Huygens. It seems to require the ability to sneeze
 at will.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Toralf Lund

Mat Maessen wrote:

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  

My sen? ?[My rhymes with high]?
Dan Matyola


Nope.
  

Mason ... rhymes with the jar you drink moonshine out of.



Nope. Though since enough people pronounce it that way, I don't bother
to correct them.
  
Hmmm... Perhaps the ae is pronounced almost like the e, but leaning 
somewhat toward the Norwegian æ... (That would be the same e as in 
Sessoms, I guess.) Oh, and perhaps you swallow that e at least partly.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
May see en


On Jul 21, 2011, at 07:23 , Mat Maessen wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 My sen?  [My rhymes with high]?
 Dan Matyola
 
 Nope.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Mat Maessen
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:
 Hmmm... Perhaps the ae is pronounced almost like the e, but leaning
 somewhat toward the Norwegian æ... (That would be the same e as in
 Sessoms, I guess.) Oh, and perhaps you swallow that e at least partly.

That's about as close to correct as you can get without actually saying it.

Kind of a swallowed a, like when you're at the doctor's office, and
he tells you to say A while he pushes your tongue down with a
depressor. :-)

The Dutch have this odd obsession with double vowels... :-)

-Mat

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Bulent Celasun
Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
as below:

Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
lent : as in land ending with a t.

My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)

BÜlent

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 May see en


 On Jul 21, 2011, at 07:23 , Mat Maessen wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 My sen?  [My rhymes with high]?
 Dan Matyola

 Nope.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread William Robb
William is a pretty standard pronunciation, but in typical Scots 
fashion, the last name gets mispronounced by non Gaelic speakers.


It's pronounced MacFarlane.

If you want to get closer though, drop the second B and insert an H 
instead. The H is pronounced slightly breathily as an exhalation.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jul 20, 2011, at 17:49 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

 Joseph J. McAllister
 
 Joe Sef Jay Mack Allister


I'd like to modify my pronunciation a bit, though I'm sure most all of you have 
heard the pronunciation in Bobby Gentry's 1967 Ode To Billie Joe and the 
fateful plunge he took from the Tallahatchie bridge.**

Or the French version which eliminates Billie Joe altogether, substituting 
Marie-Jeanne Guillaume jumping from the Pont de la Garonne. Or the Swedish Jon 
Andreas visa.*

Historicallly, the name McAllister was written Mac Alister, an Anglicisation of 
the Gaelic MacAlasdair meaning son of Alasdair, referring to  Alasdair Mòr, 
son of Domhnall, founder of Clan Donald. Alasdair Mòr and his nephew Alasdair 
Og went their separate ways, Alasdair Og then heading over to Northern Ireland 
and going by the name McDonald, while Alasdair Mòr settled eventually in 
Kintyre as the founder of the clan Mac Alasdair. Much of this is conjecture, as 
little of written history exists from the period 1100 to 1500 as regards the 
clan. Enough though to spark many disputes over who, where, and how the clan's 
origins are attributed. And many books written with points and proof a half 
dozen ways. The British Crown took it all away when they decreed in the early 
1600 that clans, as they were structured, with Kings of their own, were 
illegal, and must pledge fealty to King James III, or have their lands taken by 
the Crown. Buncha BS that is. Still willing to fight for our lands, if we could 
find a large country to back us up, like the USA! 

You may substitute a 't' for the 'd' in Alasdair. My spell checker does. In the 
articles and books I've read, they use either way. In modern usage, there are 
over 40 spellings of the name these days. ***

I'd therefor like to make a minor change to my last name's pronunciation:

Joe Sef Jay Mack `Al lister ( J. refers to my mothers maiden name, 
Jones)

The typewriter, and now computer keyboards, have taken away the written 
contraction of MacAllister I grew up using, that my father taught me, and he 
his. That is M superscript c underscored with a wavy equals sign, or an equals 
sign turned vertical, then capitol A and so forth. I can create it in a well 
featured word processor, though unable to in plain text. 

More subjugation of the clan by the man!

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

THE SENILITY PRAYER : 
Grant me the senility to forget the people
I never liked anyway, 
The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and 
The eyesight to tell the difference.


* Wikipedia

**  Lyrics:
It was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
I was out choppin' cotton and my brother was balin' hay
And at dinner time we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
And Mama hollered out the back door y'all remember to wipe your feet
And then she said I got some news this mornin' from Choctaw Ridge
Today Billy Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge

And Papa said to Mama as he passed around the blackeyed peas
Well, Billy Joe never had a lick of sense, pass the biscuits, please
There's five more acres in the lower forty I've got to plow
And Mama said it was shame about Billy Joe, anyhow
Seems like nothin' ever comes to no good up on Choctaw Ridge
And now Billy Joe MacAllister's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge

And Brother said he recollected when he and Tom and Billie Joe
Put a frog down my back at the Carroll County picture show
And wasn't I talkin' to him after church last Sunday night?
I'll have another piece of apple pie, you know it don't seem right
I saw him at the sawmill yesterday on Choctaw Ridge
And now you tell me Billie Joe's jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge

And Mama said to me Child, what's happened to your appetite?
I've been cookin' all morning and you haven't touched a single bite
That nice young preacher, Brother Taylor, dropped by today
Said he'd be pleased to have dinner on Sunday, oh, by the way
He said he saw a girl that looked a lot like you up on Choctaw Ridge
And she and Billy Joe was throwing somethin' off the Tallahatchie Bridge

A year has come 'n' gone since we heard the news 'bout Billy Joe
And Brother married Becky Thompson, they bought a store in Tupelo
There was a virus going 'round, Papa caught it and he died last Spring
And now Mama doesn't seem to wanna do much of anything
And me, I spend a lot of time pickin' flowers up on Choctaw Ridge

And drop them into the muddy water off the Tallahatchie Bridge

***  
SEPTS of the Clan: 
Alastair, Alexander, Alison, Alistair,Allison, Alister, MacAlasdair, 
MacAlaster, MacAlester,MacAlister, MacAllister, MacAllister, McAlister, 
McAlester, McAllister, McCallister, McCollister, McLister, Sanders, Saunders

NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLAN:   
ALISTER ALLISTER ALESTER ALISTAIR ALLASTER ALLISTAIR ALLESTER ALLASDAIR 
ALASDAIR ALASTER ALASTAIR MACCALLASTER MACALSHONER MACCALISTER MACALISTAIR 
MACALASTER MACALLESTER MACALLESTAR MACALASDAIR MACALLASTER MACALESTAR 
MACALESTER 

Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread steve harley

On 2011-07-21 15:42 , Joseph McAllister wrote:

The typewriter, and now computer keyboards, have taken away the written 
contraction of MacAllister I grew up using, that my father taught me, and he 
his. That is M superscript c underscored with a wavy equals sign, or an equals 
sign turned vertical, then capitol A and so forth. I can create it in a well 
featured word processor, though unable to in plain text.


this is plain text, but i can't predict what font(s) your email reader will use 
for it:


  M≈ͨAllister

this uses the unicode characters almost equal to and combining latin small 
letter c; on a Mac at least, when displayed with fonts that dothe only font i 
have with both characters and good proportions and spacing was Marker Felt!


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Mat Maessen wrote:

 
 The Dutch have this odd obsession with double vowels... :-)

Marque!

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 Bulent is in fact written as Bülent (hope the second letter can
 appear on your screen with two dots above it) and that is pronounced
 as below:
 
 Bü: Bue ( as in vue)
 lent : as in land ending with a t.
 
 My surname Celasun is counterintuitive for most English speaking
 persons; perhaps you should just forget about it :)

Something like djeluhzun?

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2011, at 17:49 , Joseph McAllister wrote:
 
 Joseph J. McAllister
 
 Joe Sef Jay Mack Allister
 
 
 I'd like to modify my pronunciation a bit, though I'm sure most all of you 
 have heard the pronunciation in Bobby Gentry's 1967 Ode To Billie Joe and 
 the fateful plunge he took from the Tallahatchie bridge.**
 
 Or the French version which eliminates Billie Joe altogether, substituting 
 Marie-Jeanne Guillaume jumping from the Pont de la Garonne. Or the Swedish 
 Jon Andreas visa.*
 
 Historicallly, the name McAllister was written Mac Alister, an Anglicisation 
 of the Gaelic MacAlasdair meaning son of Alasdair, referring to  Alasdair 
 Mòr, son of Domhnall, founder of Clan Donald. Alasdair Mòr

Mor, not Mohr (big)?



 and his nephew Alasdair Og went their separate ways, Alasdair Og then heading 
 over to Northern Ireland and going by the name McDonald, while Alasdair Mòr 
 settled eventually in Kintyre as the founder of the clan Mac Alasdair. Much 
 of this is conjecture, as little of written history exists from the period 
 1100 to 1500 as regards the clan. Enough though to spark many disputes over 
 who, where, and how the clan's origins are attributed. And many books written 
 with points and proof a half dozen ways. The British Crown took it all away 
 when they decreed in the early 1600 that clans, as they were structured, with 
 Kings of their own, were illegal, and must pledge fealty to King James III, 
 or have their lands taken by the Crown. Buncha BS that is. Still willing to 
 fight for our lands, if we could find a large country to back us up, like the 
 USA! 

Very interesting.  My mom's maiden name was McGeorge because her ancestors in 
Clan MacGregor were disbanded when they wouldn't give up some time honored scot 
hobbies like cattle rustling and feuding with the neighbors, and revolting 
against authority.

But, all in all an interesting and wonderfully pedantic history lesson.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

Mat Maessen wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 My sen? ?[My rhymes with high]?
 Dan Matyola


 Nope.


 Mason ... rhymes with the jar you drink moonshine out of.



 Nope. Though since enough people pronounce it that way, I don't bother
 to correct them.


Well, it should.  8-D

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jul 21, 2011, at 16:24 , Larry Colen wrote:

 On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 17:49 , Joseph McAllister wrote:
 
 Joseph J. McAllister
 
 Joe Sef Jay Mack Allister
 
 
 I'd like to modify my pronunciation a bit, though I'm sure most all of you 
 have heard the pronunciation in Bobby Gentry's 1967 Ode To Billie Joe and 
 the fateful plunge he took from the Tallahatchie bridge.**
 
 Or the French version which eliminates Billie Joe altogether, substituting 
 Marie-Jeanne Guillaume jumping from the Pont de la Garonne. Or the Swedish 
 Jon Andreas visa.*
 
 Historicallly, the name McAllister was written Mac Alister, an Anglicisation 
 of the Gaelic MacAlasdair meaning son of Alasdair, referring to  Alasdair 
 Mòr, son of Domhnall, founder of Clan Donald. Alasdair Mòr
 
 Mor, not Mohr (big)?

Mòr, as pasted from Wikipedia, tho I will say I've seen it written both.

 
 and his nephew Alasdair Og went their separate ways, Alasdair Og then 
 heading over to Northern Ireland and going by the name McDonald, while 
 Alasdair Mòr settled eventually in Kintyre as the founder of the clan Mac 
 Alasdair. Much of this is conjecture, as little of written history exists 
 from the period 1100 to 1500 as regards the clan. Enough though to spark 
 many disputes over who, where, and how the clan's origins are attributed. 
 And many books written with points and proof a half dozen ways. The British 
 Crown took it all away when they decreed in the early 1600 that clans, as 
 they were structured, with Kings of their own, were illegal, and must pledge 
 fealty to King James III, or have their lands taken by the Crown. Buncha BS 
 that is. Still willing to fight for our lands, if we could find a large 
 country to back us up, like the USA! 
 
 Very interesting.  My mom's maiden name was McGeorge because her ancestors in 
 Clan MacGregor were disbanded when they wouldn't give up some time honored 
 scot hobbies like cattle rustling and feuding with the neighbors, and 
 revolting against authority.

All the Scots shared the same interests, which did not include anyone but their 
own, with others regarded as thieves and warmongers. All the arms of the 
scottish clans are holding some kind of weapon. Dried rivulets of blood on your 
face was a cherished token of bravery.

 
 But, all in all an interesting and wonderfully pedantic history lesson.


As intended. The brave will read, the timid shy away. Let's run them down!

Joseph McAllister
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Mark Roberts

Roberts: It's pronounced Cymru
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.

 Hunt

At least your first name isn't Mike.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/21/2011 9:45 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Matthew Huntm...@pobox.com  wrote:

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:


We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.

Hunt

At least your first name isn't Mike.
I knew if I refrained from posting that, someone would.  I should have 
known it would be Loveless.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-21 Thread Cotty
Some people do actually call me Steve.  Steev

Some call me Cotty.  Various 'Kott-'  'Kadee'

Cottrell is definitely 'Kawtrul', not 'Kawtrelll' or Koe trelll'

Some call me anything they like.

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OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Larry Colen
We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread P. J. Alling

Here's where someone makes a crack about endoscopes.

On 7/20/2011 5:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two common mistakes are to 
misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  
It's pronounced like Cohen, but with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.

Hunt

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Igor Roshchin


- No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
- But they told me it was eye-gor.
- Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
:-)

Igor


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:

 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are 
 a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread DagT
You want us to explain pronunciation in writing? It is like explaining a 
helical line sitting on your hands, unless you know the international phonetic 
alphabet (which I don´t .-)

My first name is pronounces almost like Doug, except that you exchange ´ou´with 
the ´a´ from the English word are. In Thrane you first have to forget about 
the ´h´ (which is also the case in the Norwegian pronunciation) and start with 
an ordinary ´t´, then you need a Norwegian rolling ´r´ and the same ´a´ as 
before, the ´n´ is uncontroversial but ´e´is like the one in they.

:-)


Den 20. juli 2011 kl. 23.57 skrev Larry Colen:

 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
 lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names 
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.
 
 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two 
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way 
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but 
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.
 
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Bong Manayon
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)


We must have encountered the same they... my real name is Pedro; its
pronounced with a short e and o not paydraw.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Joseph McAllister
Joseph J. McAllister

Joe Sef Jay Mack Allister


On Jul 20, 2011, at 15:22 , Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)
 
 Igor
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:
 
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are 
 a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

I couldn't remember most of what I know today
if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge
of my past on the Internet. Thank you…


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
That would be cheeky thing to do.


Here's where someone makes a crack about endoscopes.



 On 7/20/2011 5:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are
 a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.  Names
 which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two
 common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way
 everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but
 with an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Christine Aguila
A-gwill-a.  cheers, Christine



On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 Joseph J. McAllister
 
 Joe Sef Jay Mack Allister
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 15:22 , Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 
 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)
 
 Igor
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote:
 
 We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are 
 a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.
 
 Joseph McAllister
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 02:57:46PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:

John should be fairly uncontroversial.

Francis has a long A (as in bark, not a short A as in bank)


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Aha! I though it was Ah-gwee-la. I stand corrected!
Paul
I'm Sten kwist, as you would expect, although when I worked in NY, I was often 
called stine kwist. Perhaps it was in spired by the various Jewish names that 
begin with Stein and are common in the NY metro area.
On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 A-gwill-a.  cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Joseph J. McAllister
 
 Joe Sef Jay Mack Allister
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 15:22 , Igor Roshchin wrote:
 
 
 - No, it's pronounced ee-gor!
 - But they told me it was eye-gor.
 - Well, the were wrong then, weren't they?
 :-)
 
 Igor
 
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 A-gwill-a.  cheers, Christine

That would've been my third guess, maybe.

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/20/2011 18:09, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:


We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there are a 
lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation.


Hunt


hehe

SAN (as in Ann with a n S in front of it)

san fe del ee
equal emphasis on all the syllables
the e in fe is a schwa. so almost fa

but I always think its nice when someone thinks it is French and says 
San fe dell' on the phone.  It is also nice that only people who
are either named Fideli or Fedele know how to pronounce it until I say 
it (it is a made-up name, I'm told - and Ellis ISland mistake or something)


No one who calls me who doesn't already know me in person gets it 
right.. I usually hang up when I hear them struggling asking for me.

Can I speak to Ms San fED AH LEE? and I'm gone

ann

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Rick Womer
Womer is wOHmer, long o.  Please not woRmer, woLmer, woLmAr, or wARner.

Rick is Rick.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: OT  How do you pronounce your name?
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 Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011, 5:57 PM
 We've got people from a wide range of
 cultures on this list, and there are a lot of folks with
 names that I can only guess at the pronunciation. 
 Names which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in
 Central California.
 
 I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of
 Larry, but the two common mistakes are to misread Colen as
 Cohen, or to pronounce it the way everyone but Colin Powell
 pronounces Colin.  It's pronounced like Cohen, but with
 an L rather than an H:  Koe-len.
 
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread steve harley
har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a bell 
for everyone)


i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is pronounced, 
but sometimes i wish i had it back


here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American tribes; 
Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and Acoma is 
pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them right (i've 
been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) and it seems to 
creep people out


... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been told that 
harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Christine Aguila
In Spanish (though I'm not Spanish) it means eagle.  Wow harder to type when 
drinking.  At a pub,  just discovered a lovely French country ale.
Cheers, Christine


On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a 
 bell for everyone)
 
 i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
 perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is pronounced, 
 but sometimes i wish i had it back
 
 here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American tribes; 
 Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and Acoma is 
 pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them right (i've 
 been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) and it seems to 
 creep people out
 
 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been told 
 that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Well my last name is my ex husbands...
it means saint Faithful - most inappropriate.

ann


On 7/20/2011 22:41, steve harley wrote:

har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's
irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring
a bell for everyone)

i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration
office perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is
pronounced, but sometimes i wish i had it back

here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American
tribes; Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and
Acoma is pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce
them right (i've been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the
Galapagos) and it seems to creep people out

... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been
told that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow



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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread drd1135
Day zhar den.   Don't try that until you're sober, Christine. ;-)
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In Spanish (though I'm not Spanish) it means eagle.  Wow harder to type when 
drinking.  At a pub,  just discovered a lovely French country ale.
Cheers, Christine


On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a 
 bell for everyone)
 
 i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
 perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is pronounced, 
 but sometimes i wish i had it back
 
 here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American tribes; 
 Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and Acoma is 
 pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them right (i've 
 been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) and it seems to 
 creep people out
 
 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been told 
 that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Christine Aguila
Not to worry only had one; I'm driving;  Darrel on the other hand . . .

10:30 in Chicago  it's 89 degrees.  Yuck!

On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Day zhar den.   Don't try that until you're sober, Christine. ;-)
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 In Spanish (though I'm not Spanish) it means eagle.  Wow harder to type when 
 drinking.  At a pub,  just discovered a lovely French country ale.
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a 
 bell for everyone)
 
 i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
 perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is pronounced, 
 but sometimes i wish i had it back
 
 here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American tribes; 
 Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and Acoma is 
 pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them right (i've 
 been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) and it seems to 
 creep people out
 
 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been told 
 that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow
 
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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 

From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com



Subject: Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?



Here's where someone makes a crack about endoscopes.



That would be cheeky thing to do.


Yes butt it would probably be funny



On 7/20/2011 5:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


We've got people from a wide range of cultures on this list, and there 
are
a lot of folks with names that I can only guess at the pronunciation. 
Names

which may be common in one culture are pretty rare in Central California.

I haven't heard much variation in the pronunciation of Larry, but the two
common mistakes are to misread Colen as Cohen, or to pronounce it the way
everyone but Colin Powell pronounces Colin. It's pronounced like Cohen, 
but

with an L rather than an H: Koe-len.


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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Subash
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:41:22 -0600
steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not
 ring a bell for everyone)


su as in 'full' and bash as in bar (the vowels). jey as in 'weigh' and
an as in 'fun'. 

btw, harleys have been just been introduced here in india, a year or so
back, the cheapest of which would cost me about three years' pay. the
duties are exorbitant, so most of that goes to the government...

 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? 

subash - one who has a good language/uses language well

jeyan - the victorious

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Re: OT How do you pronounce your name?

2011-07-20 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:33 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 har as in bar, ley is in tree, emphasis on the first syllable (it's 
 irritatingly easy to say like the motorcycle, but that might not ring a 
 bell for everyone)
 
 i was born with a different name, Donaghy, which is an immigration office 
 perversion of O'Donough, i think, so it may not matter how it is 
 pronounced, but sometimes i wish i had it back
 
 here in my neighborhood there are streets named for Native American tribes; 
 Galapago street is typically pronounced _gal_ uh *pay* go and Acoma is 
 pronounced a (as in 'that') *coe* muh; i try to pronounce them right 
 (i've been to Acoma Pueblo, but i've never been to the Galapagos) and it 
 seems to creep people out
 
 ... so here's another question -- what does your name mean? i've been told 
 that harley = hare + leigh ~= bunny meadow

Hal Pin, Hall Pin, Hell Pin . . .  all three variations are used by my 
relatives. 
My anti-Catholic grandmother used to say that it was a contraction of the 
Scottish (Protestant) McAlpine. I believe that Halpin is from the common Irish 
(Catholic) name Halpin which is thought to be derived from a mis-pronunciation 
of halfpenny. So my name has to do with money, albeit a very small quantity of 
money.

stan
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