Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Godfrey, thats pretty much what i was looking for. I may just go
with a good ipad, lot cheaper than macbooks, as a secondary device and
emergency computer should the desktop ever fail, until i can replace said
desktop,

I have lots of backup drives.:-)

I am quite comfortable with LR and have used it since version 1. Looks like
a free version is available for ipads.

Dave




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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> - what's the best way to go about getting mail for:
> 
> dave @ caughtinmotion dot com
> and
> brooksdj @ ca dot inter dot net.
> ??
> would i set up MAIL to do it or just go through a browser like i'm doing.

Either way. 

It's generally more convenient for me to set up Mail for each of my accounts, 
no matter what service they're hosted with, on my iPad/iPhone and on my Mac as 
well; either option is easily available. 

> - will the ipad support firefox

There is a Firefox browser available on iPadOS, but I have never used it. I'm 
happy enough with Safari as an internet browser.

> - i have Gmail on my iphone so ill assume its supported on an iPaD, with a
> Gmail app

Again, you can use a Gmail specific app, or you can create a Gmail account in 
Mail. Your choice.

> -what about making folders like on a Mac desktop, i have my photos stored
> im=n specific year, like 2023, then subfolders like 3-3-23-Kings trail
> walk, is this possible on an ipad,, google has me confused about this.

On macOS, the functionality of manipulating directory structure on local or 
external storage is handled by the Finder. On iOS and iPadOS, the Files app 
allows users to do the same, in a somewhat more specific (and manual) manner; 
file system manipulation functionality is built into apps on these operating 
systems to manage their private, secure directory storage in a more automated 
manner.

The Files app is included with any current installation of iOS and iPadOS, and 
it can be obtained free of charge from the App Store with any iPhone/iPad as 
well. A screenshot of the Files app listing on the App Store: 
https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/o3ZQXQ905s

Files can be used to create a directory structure per whatever your needs might 
be, either locally on an iPad or iPhone, or on external or iCloud storage. 
(Yes, you can connect an external drive to iPad/iPhone presuming you have the 
correct cable and/or adapters for your devices.) Since I do my photo 
organizational work on my macOS system, and use the iPhone/iPad for photo work 
in the field on a rather more casual basis, I have not set up a photo directory 
structure that mimics my macOS system directory structure but it's certainly 
possible (and easy) to do so. Here's what Files shows of my iPad Pro 11" 
directory structure at present: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/0310mtvb53

As you can see, the default folder organization is being defined by the apps I 
have installed and use. I can easily define another directory tree for photos, 
either locally or on iCloud or external drives. 

Inside an app like Photos, you organize photos into Albums to achieve the same 
thing from a use perspective. I generally use SnapSeed for quick edits … it's 
fast and easy. For more extensive work Photos used in conjunction with Raw 
POWER is an excellent image editor and so is Affinity Photo. Both Raw POWER and 
Affinity Photo run on iPadOS, iOS, and versions are available for macOS as well 
if you want to use the same software on all your systems. 

I generally use Lightroom Classic to do my photo work on macOS, mostly since 
I've been using it since it went to Public Beta 2 or something like that in 
2005. I haven't used the mobile version of it at all. When I do work on the 
iPad or iPhone, I move the original and the finish files to my Mac and bring 
them into Lightroom Classic for management and, occasionally, additional work. 

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> On Mar 8, 2023, at 6:09 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that’s on my iPhone, iPad and Mac mini. The Files app came pre-installed 
> on all my platforms. I don’t know if it’s on the App Store- I don’t see why 
> not, but just make sure you get the one by Apple not by Vlad Yabloko.
> 
>> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:51, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Bob, thats wth ipad correct?
>> 
>> My google searches said it can be done but i could not find any links that
>> had visual examples which is best for me, I still have mu old ipad mini
>> vers 2 i suppose is shoudl fire it up and see if i can find this files app
>> or is this something i need to download form the app store, I have an
>> icloud account should figure that out soon then
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 8:32 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the Files app works more or less the same across all three platforms.
>>> You can also use it to access other storage providers, such as MS OneDrive.
>>> 
>>> I keep everything in my iCloud Drive so everything is accessible from all
>>> three.
>>> 
> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:20, David J Brooks  wrote:
 
 Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an
>>> iPad
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/
 
 or something similar.
 
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer 
>>> wrote:
> Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
> have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external dri

Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-08 Thread Bob W PDML
Yes, that’s on my iPhone, iPad and Mac mini. The Files app came pre-installed 
on all my platforms. I don’t know if it’s on the App Store- I don’t see why 
not, but just make sure you get the one by Apple not by Vlad Yabloko.

> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:51, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Bob, thats wth ipad correct?
> 
> My google searches said it can be done but i could not find any links that
> had visual examples which is best for me, I still have mu old ipad mini
> vers 2 i suppose is shoudl fire it up and see if i can find this files app
> or is this something i need to download form the app store, I have an
> icloud account should figure that out soon then
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 8:32 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, the Files app works more or less the same across all three platforms.
>> You can also use it to access other storage providers, such as MS OneDrive.
>> 
>> I keep everything in my iCloud Drive so everything is accessible from all
>> three.
>> 
 On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:20, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an
>> iPad
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/
>>> 
>>> or something similar.
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer 
>> wrote:
 Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
 have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external drives in
 case your desktop goes toes up. That said, there's a ton of options for
 storing and manipulating photos on an iPad. I think Godders uses a
 combination of apps along with the Apple Photos software, for example. I
 have Lightroom Mobile and the Pshop for iPad app, so I can sync up with
 my desktop easily. Seems like you mentioned wanting to use more up to
 date versions of both Lr and Ps, so the mobile versions might be the way
 to go.
 Maybe not the clarity you hoped for.
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Bob, thats wth ipad correct?

My google searches said it can be done but i could not find any links that
had visual examples which is best for me, I still have mu old ipad mini
vers 2 i suppose is shoudl fire it up and see if i can find this files app
or is this something i need to download form the app store, I have an
icloud account should figure that out soon then

Dave

On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 8:32 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:

> Yes, the Files app works more or less the same across all three platforms.
> You can also use it to access other storage providers, such as MS OneDrive.
>
> I keep everything in my iCloud Drive so everything is accessible from all
> three.
>
> > On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:20, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an
> iPad
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/
> >
> > or something similar.
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer 
> wrote:
> >> Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
> >> have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external drives in
> >> case your desktop goes toes up. That said, there's a ton of options for
> >> storing and manipulating photos on an iPad. I think Godders uses a
> >> combination of apps along with the Apple Photos software, for example. I
> >> have Lightroom Mobile and the Pshop for iPad app, so I can sync up with
> >> my desktop easily. Seems like you mentioned wanting to use more up to
> >> date versions of both Lr and Ps, so the mobile versions might be the way
> >> to go.
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-08 Thread Bob W PDML
Yes, the Files app works more or less the same across all three platforms. You 
can also use it to access other storage providers, such as MS OneDrive.

I keep everything in my iCloud Drive so everything is accessible from all three.

> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:20, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an iPad
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/
> 
> or something similar.
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer  wrote:
>> Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
>> have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external drives in
>> case your desktop goes toes up. That said, there's a ton of options for
>> storing and manipulating photos on an iPad. I think Godders uses a
>> combination of apps along with the Apple Photos software, for example. I
>> have Lightroom Mobile and the Pshop for iPad app, so I can sync up with
>> my desktop easily. Seems like you mentioned wanting to use more up to
>> date versions of both Lr and Ps, so the mobile versions might be the way
>> to go.
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-08 Thread David J Brooks
Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an iPad

https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/

or something similar.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer  wrote:

>
> Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
> have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external drives in
> case your desktop goes toes up. That said, there's a ton of options for
> storing and manipulating photos on an iPad. I think Godders uses a
> combination of apps along with the Apple Photos software, for example. I
> have Lightroom Mobile and the Pshop for iPad app, so I can sync up with
> my desktop easily. Seems like you mentioned wanting to use more up to
> date versions of both Lr and Ps, so the mobile versions might be the way
> to go.
>
> Maybe not the clarity you hoped for.
>
>
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-07 Thread Doug Brewer
Just as a comment, I have a relatively heavy photo load when I'm busy, 
and I push my devices pretty hard. Much of my decision path was colored 
by that, and I went with what I thought could handle it. I do not know 
your needs, and it is entirely possible that what I have would be 
overkill for you. It's your call.


For email, I just use Mail on my phone and haven't decided if I will do 
that with the iPad yet. Probably not, but we'll see. Browser would work 
fine, too.


There appears to be a Firefox app for iOS, yes.

Same for Gmail.

Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you 
have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external drives in 
case your desktop goes toes up. That said, there's a ton of options for 
storing and manipulating photos on an iPad. I think Godders uses a 
combination of apps along with the Apple Photos software, for example. I 
have Lightroom Mobile and the Pshop for iPad app, so I can sync up with 
my desktop easily. Seems like you mentioned wanting to use more up to 
date versions of both Lr and Ps, so the mobile versions might be the way 
to go.


Maybe not the clarity you hoped for.

On 3/7/23 12:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Doug

If i decide to go the less expensive route, just to have a back up for
email and banking until I get a newer computer, should this desktop fail, i
may go iPad pro,

I've google a few of thee questions but i'm a bit confused with the answers

- what's the best way to go about getting mail for:

dave @ caughtinmotion dot com
and
brooksdj @ ca dot inter dot net.

??

would i set up MAIL to do it or just go through a browser like i'm doing.
- will the ipad support firefox
- i have Gmail on my iphone so ill assume its supported on an iPaD, with a
Gmail app

-what about making folders like on a Mac desktop, i have my photos stored
im=n specific year, like 2023, then subfolders like 3-3-23-Kings trail
walk, is this possible on an ipad,, google has me confused about this.

Dave




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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-07 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Doug

If i decide to go the less expensive route, just to have a back up for
email and banking until I get a newer computer, should this desktop fail, i
may go iPad pro,

I've google a few of thee questions but i'm a bit confused with the answers

- what's the best way to go about getting mail for:

dave @ caughtinmotion dot com
and
brooksdj @ ca dot inter dot net.

??

would i set up MAIL to do it or just go through a browser like i'm doing.
- will the ipad support firefox
- i have Gmail on my iphone so ill assume its supported on an iPaD, with a
Gmail app

-what about making folders like on a Mac desktop, i have my photos stored
im=n specific year, like 2023, then subfolders like 3-3-23-Kings trail
walk, is this possible on an ipad,, google has me confused about this.

Dave



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> I recently ran into the same set of decisions,
> another monitor to hook up. And yes, a Spyder or other tool.
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Doug Brewer
I recently ran into the same set of decisions, having decided that my 
2012 MBP was too decrepit to handle things as well as it used to, and I 
needed something for travel and location work that could handle some 
culling and light editing until I could get the files back home to my 
workhorse computer.


Guess I should point out that I have never particularly liked editing 
photos on a laptop, unless it was at home and hooked up to decent 
monitors, so I dragged my feet for quite some time on the decision 
because the home setup was already sorted, my venerable 2009 Cheese 
Grater Mac Pro moved to a support role for an M1 Max Mac Studio, running 
two color matched 24" monitors for the heavy lifting and a third display 
for email, browsing, etc.


So last week I grabbed up an M2 iPad Pro for the road work. It has 
enough screen space for such, and I can get some of the stuff done with 
the Apple Pencil before I get back home to my tablet and pen and more 
serious work.


to your questions:

like Godders said, RAM is handled differently on the new rigs, so the 
answer isn't always more like it used to be, but still more than 8GB 
would be better.


M2 over M1 is "it depends."

I never do serious photo work without calibrated monitors, and though 
laptop screens have gotten better regarding color and holding a 
calibration, I still have a prejudice against them, so I'd look into 
interfacing whatever you get with either your iMac screen or finding 
another monitor to hook up. And yes, a Spyder or other tool.


Figure out which ports you need.

See above regarding monitors.

I haven't used a mouse in ages, since I got a Wacom tablet. My ancient 
Apple Wireless keyboard still works.


On 3/6/23 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Good day all

It looks like i;ll be getting some goven=rnmetn money soon and am thinking
of upgrading, but keeping, my 2010 iMac 21,5" desktop. It works well enough
but because i cant upgrade the OS to stay current and also can't upgrade
some programs i use and like, like PS and Lightroom,  i'm considering
making a move to a macbook pro, either the 13
" or the 14" M1 or M2 chip

Just looking for comments good or bad from those that are using said
machine(s) for LR and PS. -Is the screen big enough, 13" or 14"
-is 8gig ram enough
-is M2 better over M1 chip
-screen colour ie do you need a spyder wset up
-battery life
-amount of ports and a sd card slot
-could my imac be used as an extended monitor?
-can i use my keyboard and magic mouse, i don't like track pads

If i think of anything else i;; add it.

We have a company not far that sells and services nothing but Macs so i'll
probably deal with them

Dave




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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 06.03.23 um 20:23 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi:

The 11" diagonal model has a super-crisp and easy to see screen


So, let me congratulate you on your excellent eyesight. ;-)

I'm currently using a 27" Eizo monitor with the resolution scaled down
to 1920 x 1080 and this just barely works for me.

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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The iPad Pro is my most used computer. It handles anything I need with respect 
to email, banking, internet usage, word processing, et cetera. It does a fair 
job with image editing as well, using Photos with RAW Power, SnapSeed, and 
Affinity Photo. The keyboard folio case provides an excellent keyboard and 
folds up around it, protecting the Pad as well. The 11" diagonal model has a 
super-crisp and easy to see screen, and you can use external keyboards, 
pointing devices, and even displays with it (including wired ones using the 
appropriate adapter). The 11" inch model is also just the right size to fit 
easily in most any of my camera carrying bags other than the very smallest. 

My primary use of the desktop system is to run Lightroom and other legacy 
applications that I have way too much data and information invested in to want 
to migrate to anything else unless I absolutely have to. :)

G

> On Mar 6, 2023, at 9:49 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> My main worry is if the desktop crashes or get infected that i have
> something to carry on with my different emails and banking, until a new mac
> can be bought, if the ipad will do all that i may just go that route and
> forget the macbook for the time being
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:45 PM David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:34 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I ran with a MacBook Pro as one of my personal computers, and another as
>>> my work computer for the last five years of my career at Apple. But I never
>>> used my personal computer anywhere but on my desk since all of my mobile
>>> computing needs were better served with the lighter, smaller iPads starting
>>> about 2010. As a result, I sold the last MacBook Pro I owned personally to
>>> a friend, and when I upgraded my 2012 Mac mini, I bought a 2018 Mac mini.
>>> The performance difference between the two mini systems is astounding … and
>>> the performance difference between the 2018 mini and the latest M2 mini is
>>> even greater. I could not see the point of buying a laptop since I never
>>> carry one anywhere anymore.
>>> 
>>> G
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the comments Godders, I am also thinking of upgrading my ipad
>> from the current mini vers 2 i think it is or the macbook. The desktop is
>> fine n=but mostly uses the computer for emails, photo edits and some social
>> media and online banking.
>> 
>> My needs may be better served with a decent current ipad instead??
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Larry Colen
This is an interesting thread, thanks for starting it.

There’s a company in my area that sells used macs, I recently upgraded my 2009 
mac pro to a 2015 trashcan, and now have a 2015 15” MBP for my mobile photo 
needs and when I was given a broken 2016 13”, I traded it for a 2015 13”.  
Long story short, IMHO if you are buying used, 2015 is the sweet spot of price, 
performance and upgradeability.  After that, things started getting soldered 
down.  

In general, processor needs (and performance) have not increased nearly as much 
as RAM and drive requirements.  Also, it seems that the big advantage of Apple 
silicon is with RAM on chip, bus speeds are that much higher. On top of that, I 
have not seen any indication that camera raw files are going to be getting any 
smaller, whether or not someone needs a 75MP raw file to post a 1920x1080 JPEG 
on facebook.  

In short, I agree with Ralf, prioritize RAM (and drive space) over processor 
speed.

As to screen size, I briefly had a 13” MBP a few years back that I tried to use 
for processing.  I returned it after my first photo trip, it was just too small 
to be useful, and that was before my eyesight took a sharp decline.  As to 
whether to get an MBP or a mini, you can use a laptop as a desktop machine a 
lot easier than you can use a desktop machine on the road.  Every so often I’ll 
do a photo gig on the road when I want to at least look at things, and likely 
do some processing, and it really helps to own at least one laptop that is able 
to handle that.  

FWIW, my work setup is a laptop with external keyboard and two desktop 
monitors, and in the office I treat the laptop like a desktop machine.

My home photo setup is two 2560x1440 displays, one horizontal, one vertical.  I 
think that my next setup is going to be a single, large (36”?) 3840x2160 (quad 
HD basically) display.  If you pair that with an open laptop display that would 
be a great combination, but you don’t even need the second display unless you 
want to put all of your menus over on that.  

> On Mar 6, 2023, at 6:13 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Good day all
> 
> It looks like i;ll be getting some goven=rnmetn money soon and am thinking
> of upgrading, but keeping, my 2010 iMac 21,5" desktop. It works well enough
> but because i cant upgrade the OS to stay current and also can't upgrade
> some programs i use and like, like PS and Lightroom,  i'm considering
> making a move to a macbook pro, either the 13
> " or the 14" M1 or M2 chip
> 
> Just looking for comments good or bad from those that are using said
> machine(s) for LR and PS. -Is the screen big enough, 13" or 14"
> -is 8gig ram enough
> -is M2 better over M1 chip
> -screen colour ie do you need a spyder wset up
> -battery life
> -amount of ports and a sd card slot
> -could my imac be used as an extended monitor?
> -can i use my keyboard and magic mouse, i don't like track pads
> 
> If i think of anything else i;; add it.
> 
> We have a company not far that sells and services nothing but Macs so i'll
> probably deal with them
> 
> Dave
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Bob W PDML
I do more or less everything on my iPad and iPhone, including banking, email, 
Lightroom photo editing, walking and cycle route planning etc etc. I have a M1 
Mac mini with a trackpad and Magic Keyboard, but rarely use it and I just 
connect it my TV when I do use it.

However, I’m not as heavily into photo editing as many people, and being 
colourblind I don’t rely on my colour vision for anything, so I don’t really 
even need a calibrated monitor.

> On 6 Mar 2023, at 17:50, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> My main worry is if the desktop crashes or get infected that i have
> something to carry on with my different emails and banking, until a new mac
> can be bought, if the ipad will do all that i may just go that route and
> forget the macbook for the time being
> 
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
My main worry is if the desktop crashes or get infected that i have
something to carry on with my different emails and banking, until a new mac
can be bought, if the ipad will do all that i may just go that route and
forget the macbook for the time being

Dave

On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:45 PM David J Brooks  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:34 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I ran with a MacBook Pro as one of my personal computers, and another as
>> my work computer for the last five years of my career at Apple. But I never
>> used my personal computer anywhere but on my desk since all of my mobile
>> computing needs were better served with the lighter, smaller iPads starting
>> about 2010. As a result, I sold the last MacBook Pro I owned personally to
>> a friend, and when I upgraded my 2012 Mac mini, I bought a 2018 Mac mini.
>> The performance difference between the two mini systems is astounding … and
>> the performance difference between the 2018 mini and the latest M2 mini is
>> even greater. I could not see the point of buying a laptop since I never
>> carry one anywhere anymore.
>>
>> G
>>
>
> Thanks for the comments Godders, I am also thinking of upgrading my ipad
> from the current mini vers 2 i think it is or the macbook. The desktop is
> fine n=but mostly uses the computer for emails, photo edits and some social
> media and online banking.
>
> My needs may be better served with a decent current ipad instead??
>
> Dave
>
>>
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:34 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

>
>
> I ran with a MacBook Pro as one of my personal computers, and another as
> my work computer for the last five years of my career at Apple. But I never
> used my personal computer anywhere but on my desk since all of my mobile
> computing needs were better served with the lighter, smaller iPads starting
> about 2010. As a result, I sold the last MacBook Pro I owned personally to
> a friend, and when I upgraded my 2012 Mac mini, I bought a 2018 Mac mini.
> The performance difference between the two mini systems is astounding … and
> the performance difference between the 2018 mini and the latest M2 mini is
> even greater. I could not see the point of buying a laptop since I never
> carry one anywhere anymore.
>
> G
>

Thanks for the comments Godders, I am also thinking of upgrading my ipad
from the current mini vers 2 i think it is or the macbook. The desktop is
fine n=but mostly uses the computer for emails, photo edits and some social
media and online banking.

My needs may be better served with a decent current ipad instead??

Dave

>
> > On Mar 6, 2023, at 6:13 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Can't answer all of your questions, but I'd go for an Apple silicon machine 
nowadays … it's where the future is headed in Apple equipment. I'm planning to 
upgrade both my Mac mini (2018 3.2Ghz Intel 6-core i7) and my iPad Pro 11" 
(2017) to latest generation M1/M2 equipped models later this year. 

- The M series CPUs utilize RAM differently from the Intel generation systems 
and are more efficient about it, but for any serious photographic work I'd want 
either the 16 or 32 Gbyte RAM models anyway. It lends more future-proofing to 
the setup. 

- The M2 is a higher performance chip. Better or worse is hard to evaluate 
because it depends upon the context of measurement. 

- If you want to do managed color, yes you need a tool to calibrate and profile 
the display. 

- battery … yeah a laptop has one. ??? I'd never depend on battery life for 
doing serious photographic work. 

- amount of ports and an sd card slot … I haven't looked yet, but look and see 
that what you're interested has the number of ports and slots you need before 
buying. 

- An iMac can be used as an external display, but it depends on year of 
manufacture, what hardware features your specific iMac has, and what version of 
macOS it has on it. This will take research, you might want to discuss it with 
your service provider. 

- I, personally, want a 27" display for my photographic work. I can work on 
smaller screens for quick stuff but I want the screen real estate to handle 
having all the various palettes and controls of Lightroom or other image 
processing software open and instantly available when I'm doing anything 
serious. I don't like to use multiple displays simultaneously, I just want one 
big display. 

- Your existing keyboard and mouse should work fine. I've had the same Magic 
Keyboard and Magic Trackpad through two-three system generations already, no 
reason a Magic Mouse would be different. Of course, using a mouse, you give up 
many of the touch-based control capabilities of a trackpad, but that's up to 
you. I stopped using a mouse more than a decade ago. 

I ran with a MacBook Pro as one of my personal computers, and another as my 
work computer for the last five years of my career at Apple. But I never used 
my personal computer anywhere but on my desk since all of my mobile computing 
needs were better served with the lighter, smaller iPads starting about 2010. 
As a result, I sold the last MacBook Pro I owned personally to a friend, and 
when I upgraded my 2012 Mac mini, I bought a 2018 Mac mini. The performance 
difference between the two mini systems is astounding … and the performance 
difference between the 2018 mini and the latest M2 mini is even greater. I 
could not see the point of buying a laptop since I never carry one anywhere 
anymore. 

G

> On Mar 6, 2023, at 6:13 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Good day all
> 
> It looks like i;ll be getting some goven=rnmetn money soon and am thinking
> of upgrading, but keeping, my 2010 iMac 21,5" desktop. It works well enough
> but because i cant upgrade the OS to stay current and also can't upgrade
> some programs i use and like, like PS and Lightroom,  i'm considering
> making a move to a macbook pro, either the 13
> " or the 14" M1 or M2 chip
> 
> Just looking for comments good or bad from those that are using said
> machine(s) for LR and PS. -Is the screen big enough, 13" or 14"
> -is 8gig ram enough
> -is M2 better over M1 chip
> -screen colour ie do you need a spyder wset up
> -battery life
> -amount of ports and a sd card slot
> -could my imac be used as an extended monitor?
> -can i use my keyboard and magic mouse, i don't like track pads
> 
> If i think of anything else i;; add it.
> 
> We have a company not far that sells and services nothing but Macs so i'll
> probably deal with them
> 
> Dave
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 10:43 AM John Sessoms  wrote:

> If your eyesight has done like mine as I've gotten older, you'll want
> the bigger screen of the 14".
>
> According to a quick Google the 14" MacBook Pro (14-inch 2023) has 3
> "Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports" and a HDMI port.
>
>
> https://support.apple.com/guide/macbook-pro/use-an-external-display-apd8cdd74f57/mac
>
> AND - these external keyboards/mice are compatible with it:
>
>
> https://www.apple.com/shop/mac/accessories/mice-keyboards?fh=36f4%2B4afa42&f=14inchmacbookpro2023m2&page=1


Thanks John

I replaced my magic mouse and keyboard a few years back the mouse is fine
with El Capitan but the cordless rechargeable keyboard would not
communicate with the computer but it is plugged in, my hope is that the
backward compatibility is there.

Dave

>
>
> On 3/6/2023 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
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> >
>
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread John Sessoms
If your eyesight has done like mine as I've gotten older, you'll want 
the bigger screen of the 14".


According to a quick Google the 14" MacBook Pro (14-inch 2023) has 3 
"Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports" and a HDMI port.


https://support.apple.com/guide/macbook-pro/use-an-external-display-apd8cdd74f57/mac

AND - these external keyboards/mice are compatible with it:

https://www.apple.com/shop/mac/accessories/mice-keyboards?fh=36f4%2B4afa42&f=14inchmacbookpro2023m2&page=1

On 3/6/2023 9:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Good day all

It looks like i;ll be getting some goven=rnmetn money soon and am thinking
of upgrading, but keeping, my 2010 iMac 21,5" desktop. It works well enough
but because i cant upgrade the OS to stay current and also can't upgrade
some programs i use and like, like PS and Lightroom,  i'm considering
making a move to a macbook pro, either the 13
" or the 14" M1 or M2 chip

Just looking for comments good or bad from those that are using said
machine(s) for LR and PS. -Is the screen big enough, 13" or 14"
-is 8gig ram enough
-is M2 better over M1 chip
-screen colour ie do you need a spyder wset up
-battery life
-amount of ports and a sd card slot
-could my imac be used as an extended monitor?
-can i use my keyboard and magic mouse, i don't like track pads

If i think of anything else i;; add it.

We have a company not far that sells and services nothing but Macs so i'll
probably deal with them

Dave





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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 06.03.23 um 15:13 schrieb David J Brooks:


Just looking for comments good or bad from those that are using said
machine(s) for LR and PS.  > -is 8gig ram enough


I'd go for 16 at least


-is M2 better over M1 chip


M1 is fine. Invest the difference in more RAM.

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OT Laptops and photo editing

2023-03-06 Thread David J Brooks
Good day all

It looks like i;ll be getting some goven=rnmetn money soon and am thinking
of upgrading, but keeping, my 2010 iMac 21,5" desktop. It works well enough
but because i cant upgrade the OS to stay current and also can't upgrade
some programs i use and like, like PS and Lightroom,  i'm considering
making a move to a macbook pro, either the 13
" or the 14" M1 or M2 chip

Just looking for comments good or bad from those that are using said
machine(s) for LR and PS. -Is the screen big enough, 13" or 14"
-is 8gig ram enough
-is M2 better over M1 chip
-screen colour ie do you need a spyder wset up
-battery life
-amount of ports and a sd card slot
-could my imac be used as an extended monitor?
-can i use my keyboard and magic mouse, i don't like track pads

If i think of anything else i;; add it.

We have a company not far that sells and services nothing but Macs so i'll
probably deal with them

Dave



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