Pentax *ist DL RAW file
Dear list Does DL have special/new RAW-file formats. My Phase One LE won't rede the RAW-files Regards Bladt Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Steve Jolly Sendt: 17. juni 2006 13:18 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: 24-90 flare [Was: Re: Your Favorite Zoom Lens] Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah I see someone beat me to this. ;-) ;-) S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 06/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 06/22/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Pentax *ist DL RAW file
The files may be different enough that your program won't recognize them. Check with Phase One to see what cameras your version supports. You may need to upgrade or update the program. This is quite a common situation. Adobe, for example, frequently updates their camera raw file to take into consideration cameras produced after a given version of the program has been released. You might be able to use Adobe's DNG converter with your program. Shel [Original Message] From: Jens Bladt Dear list Does DL have special/new RAW-file formats. My Phase One LE won't rede the RAW-files -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax *ist DL RAW file
Jens Bladt wrote: Dear list Does DL have special/new RAW-file formats. My Phase One LE won't rede the RAW-files Regards Bladt They are exactly the same, except for the camera identifier :-). Capture One, et al will read them now, but you need the latest version, which is a free download. -Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax *ist DL RAW file
One of the Tags embedded in the file is different specifying the camera model, otherwise I believe that they are Identical to the DS files. Knowing that won't help your software read them however. Jens Bladt wrote: Dear list Does DL have special/new RAW-file formats. My Phase One LE won't rede the RAW-files Regards Bladt Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Steve Jolly Sendt: 17. juni 2006 13:18 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: 24-90 flare [Was: Re: Your Favorite Zoom Lens] Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah I see someone beat me to this. ;-) ;-) S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 06/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 06/22/2006 -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax *ist DL RAW file
The Camera model tag differs for the DL, thus Capture One LE won't read it. You'll need an updated version. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: Dear list Does DL have special/new RAW-file formats. My Phase One LE won't rede the RAW-files Regards Bladt Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Steve Jolly Sendt: 17. juni 2006 13:18 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: 24-90 flare [Was: Re: Your Favorite Zoom Lens] Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah I see someone beat me to this. ;-) ;-) S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 06/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 06/22/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Pentax *ist DL RAW file
Sorry - I found out. It does. I just updated my Phase One LE. Now it works fine. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jens Bladt Sendt: 23. juni 2006 15:56 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Pentax *ist DL RAW file Dear list Does DL have special/new RAW-file formats. My Phase One LE won't rede the RAW-files Regards Bladt Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Steve Jolly Sendt: 17. juni 2006 13:18 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: 24-90 flare [Was: Re: Your Favorite Zoom Lens] Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah I see someone beat me to this. ;-) ;-) S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release Date: 06/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 06/22/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 06/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/373 - Release Date: 06/22/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Pentax *ist-DL
American Defense Spending g [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/02/05 6:53 PM Alternatively, we could cherry-pick different bits from different countries: Italian economic policy British social policy Turkish human rights policy French foreign policy Swedish tax policy -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2005 23:27 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL On 2/6/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: All the other countries should just adopt the UK constitution, and leave it at that. It's much simpler. LOL. Classic. You a script writer for Ricky Gervais? What worries me more is the Euro. Everyone complains that it was a great excuse to hike prices. It's bad enough here as it is. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Jim Apilado wrote: I'm headed for Greece in a couple of weeks. If they use the Euro, I hope it comes down in value against the greenback. They do, and your lettuce-leaves are the ones in the down. But the place is not quite UK (don't bother looking for photo equipment anyway). Whereabouts are you going? Kostas (Greek :-)
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Hmm, I often present myself as Scandinavian abroad since many more people in certain parts would rather know that then one of the specific countries. I guess also the EU maps showing some countries and others not show the same ignorance of geography as Europeans ascribe to Americans. My observation is that people wherever they live tend to have their own special geocentric world. Ours is pentaxian land in cyberspace galaxy. Possibly. I've been thinking that the selfcenteredness (can you call it that???) is actually proportional to the size of the country, though. - Toralf
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Has anyone here used 70mm Type II Perf film? Anyone know where I can get canisters (for 15 ft). Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think anyone actually read the new EU constitution, it's the size of the New York phone book. One of the reasons I would automatically vote against it, given the option. I've not been given the option. It's important enough for everyone to be bound by law to read it. Which is not going to happen. So neither is it. Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! LOL. I bet the new constitution has been promoted by the Pentax advertising department. Jostein
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Hmm, I often present myself as Scandinavian abroad since many more people in certain parts would rather know that then one of the specific countries. I guess also the EU maps showing some countries and others not show the same ignorance of geography as Europeans ascribe to Americans. My observation is that people wherever they live tend to have their own special geocentric world. Ours is pentaxian land in cyberspace galaxy. Cheers, Ronald Well, as we are celebrating 100 years freedom from Sweden these days I´ve seen a reprint of a map of Scandinavia without Sweden. It´s only fair, since the EU often print maps of Europe without Norway. DagT På 1. jun. 2005 kl. 19.58 skrev Ronald Arvidsson: Hi, Sweden been in place since about 1100-1200 AD when it was consolidated, and its still there. Haven't seen any temporary time-space shutdowns - either. Problems though are called digital revolution. Cheers, Ronald Re: Pentax *ist-DL P. J. Alling Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:52:47 -0700 That's very strange, did the entire country of Sweden just disappear, I can't seem to get to that web site. End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 Issue #1282 **
RE: Pentax *ist-DL
Luckily the French and the Dutch have relieved me of the burden of having to read the constitution before deciding which way to vote. I'm instinctively pro-European, but I was feeling inclined to vote against it just for being so long. All the other countries should just adopt the UK constitution, and leave it at that. It's much simpler. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think anyone actually read the new EU constitution, it's the size of the New York phone book. One of the reasons I would automatically vote against it, given the option. I've not been given the option. It's important enough for everyone to be bound by law to read it. Which is not going to happen. So neither is it.
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
On 2/6/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: All the other countries should just adopt the UK constitution, and leave it at that. It's much simpler. LOL. Classic. You a script writer for Ricky Gervais? What worries me more is the Euro. Everyone complains that it was a great excuse to hike prices. It's bad enough here as it is. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
On 2/6/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Alternatively, we could cherry-pick different bits from different countries: Italian economic policy British social policy Turkish human rights policy French foreign policy Swedish tax policy Keep going lad, you're on a roll! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
I'm headed for Greece in a couple of weeks. If they use the Euro, I hope it comes down in value against the greenback. Jim A. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:25:02 +0100 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax *ist-DL Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:21:06 -0400 Luckily the French and the Dutch have relieved me of the burden of having to read the constitution before deciding which way to vote. I'm instinctively pro-European, but I was feeling inclined to vote against it just for being so long. All the other countries should just adopt the UK constitution, and leave it at that. It's much simpler. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think anyone actually read the new EU constitution, it's the size of the New York phone book. One of the reasons I would automatically vote against it, given the option. I've not been given the option. It's important enough for everyone to be bound by law to read it. Which is not going to happen. So neither is it.
Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website!
Just a hypothetical question: If you did NOT own any Pentax or k-mount lenses, why would you choose this body over the Nikon D50 or Canon 350D (RebelXT)? (price being equal or near-enough; I believe the D50 is supposed to be much less than the 350D, but let's ignore that right now) Christian Actually the Canon 300D (digital rebel) with lens is selling for $799 or less. The XT is supposed to be a step above and I've heard that the 300D may continue to be built (I don't know how true it is). So Pentax may have to work at getting the neophyte Pentax user on board. I don't see them significantly underselling Canon. My 2 Butch
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Bob W wrote: Luckily the French and the Dutch have relieved me of the burden of having to read the constitution before deciding which way to vote. I'm instinctively pro-European, but I was feeling inclined to vote against it just for being so long. All the other countries should just adopt the UK constitution, and leave it at that. It's much simpler. Well, no need to worry about reading that one ... !
Pentax *ist-DL
I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Henri Toivonen wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Henri, That link doesn't seem to work. Neither of them, actually. Cory - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL Henri Toivonen wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 5/31/2005
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Pentax *ist-DL I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:33: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work Thanks David for IP :-) For me it seems to be just silver version of *istDs and nothing more... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Well, it is downgraded with the AF points at least... It is a budget model and its price should beat both Cannon 350 and Nikon D50... - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:33: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work Thanks David for IP :-) For me it seems to be just silver version of *istDs and nothing more... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:33: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work Thanks David for IP :-) For me it seems to be just silver version of *istDs and nothing more... I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Kostas
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. The DS has a pentaprism. However, according to the technical specs linked from that webpage*, so does the *istDL... S *assuming my attempts to interpret Swedish don't mislead me - I'm assuming prism implies a prism of some kind...
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:52: Well, it is downgraded with the AF points at least... Is there anything in this text about AF system? Sorry, I don't understand Swedish so I couldn't find this info :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 12:56: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
SV: Pentax *ist-DL
It means penta prism viewfinder. Paul Eriksson -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 1 juni 2005 13:15 Till: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Ämne: Re: Pentax *ist-DL Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 12:56: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 12:56: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? I think that's what Henri (the OP) suggested. I think his surname is Finnish :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg253937.html Kostas
Re: SV: Pentax *ist-DL
Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 13:19: I think that's what Henri (the OP) suggested. I think his surname is Finnish :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg253937.html I think Paul knows better as he comes from polypeptide.SE ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does pentaprismasökare mean pentamirror? Who speaks Swedish here? It means pentaprism viewfinder. -tih -- Don't ascribe to stupidity what can be adequately explained by ignorance.
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote on 01.06.05 13:31: It means pentaprism viewfinder. Thanks Tom :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
And the price is... Regards, Bob S. On 6/1/05, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote on 01.06.05 13:31: It means pentaprism viewfinder. Thanks Tom :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Well, yes. I don´t speak Swedish either but as far as I follow the dpreview talk the AF will have only three instead of 11 focusing points (not known in what possition). - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:52: Well, it is downgraded with the AF points at least... Is there anything in this text about AF system? Sorry, I don't understand Swedish so I couldn't find this info :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
The L looks like yet another attempt to compete for entry level customers coming from digital compacts. What's odd, though, is that there are no other pages at the Swedish Pentax site pointing to this particular page. No press, no news, no product spec... Looks like an info leak. :-) Jostein Quoting David Sládek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Pentax *ist-DL I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Jostein wrote: Looks like an info leak. :-) I was looking for the 1 April date, but it was nowhere to be seen :-) Kostas
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
David Sládek wrote: Well, yes. I don´t speak Swedish either but as far as I follow the dpreview talk the AF will have only three instead of 11 focusing points (not known in what possition). From the technical specs:* Autofokus* TTL (SAFOX VIII) kontrastavkännande autofokus med 3-punkter eller spotmätning. Meaning 3 point or spot autofocus... - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:52: Well, it is downgraded with the AF points at least... Is there anything in this text about AF system? Sorry, I don't understand Swedish so I couldn't find this info :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek -- Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] +47 66 85 51 22 ProCaptura AS +47 66 85 51 00 (switchboard) http://www.procaptura.com/~toralf +47 66 85 51 01 (fax)
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Looks like web preparation in advance of a new product announcement got indexed though it is not directly linked to. Shame on the web admin! Sincerely, Collin Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 14:16: Meaning 3 point or spot autofocus... So it seems Pentax was left with a stock of used in MZ-5N/6 Safox IV circuits... -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 13:19: I think that's what Henri (the OP) suggested. I think his surname is Finnish :-) http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg253937.html I think Paul knows better as he comes from polypeptide.SE ;-) ?? Actually, I've lived all my life in Sweden. /Henri
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Steve Jolly wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. The DS has a pentaprism. However, according to the technical specs linked from that webpage*, so does the *istDL... S *assuming my attempts to interpret Swedish don't mislead me - I'm assuming prism implies a prism of some kind... Actually, no. Sökare: Prisma med pentaspeglar med Natural-Bright-Matte fokuseringsskiva. Translated, that means. Viewfinder: Prism with pentamirrors and natural-bright-matte focusing screen. So Pentamirrors it is, as I said. Why the product description on the front page says pentaprism I do not know. Probably marketing people that wrote that. /Henri
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek Excepet that in the 'Tekniska Specifikationer' it states: Prisma med pentaspeglar med Natural-Bright-Matte fokuseringsskiva. which I think means Prism with pentamirror with Natural-Bright-Matte focus-screen. That's where people are getting the idea that it has a pentamirror. -Michael __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Michael Bergstrom wrote: Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek Excepet that in the 'Tekniska Specifikationer' it states: Prisma med pentaspeglar med Natural-Bright-Matte fokuseringsskiva. which I think means Prism with pentamirror with Natural-Bright-Matte focus-screen. That's where people are getting the idea that it has a pentamirror. -Michael Hehe, beat ya to it. ;-) Just wrote an explanation a couple of minutes ago. /Henri
Re: Pentax *ist-DL
Michael Bergstrom wrote: Eriksson Paulus wrote on 01.06.05 13:16: It means penta prism viewfinder. Thanks Paul!!! So aparrently this is not pentamirror as some suggested :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek Excepet that in the 'Tekniska Specifikationer' it states: Prisma med pentaspeglar med Natural-Bright-Matte fokuseringsskiva. which I think means Prism with pentamirror with Natural-Bright-Matte focus-screen. That's where people are getting the idea that it has a pentamirror. -Michael Hehe, beat ya to it. ;-) Just wrote an explanation a couple of minutes ago. /Henri Yeah, I noticed, but I don't speak swedish so it took me longer! :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Pentax *ist-DL on USA website!
http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_Dl/ HEHEHEHE silly pentax... posting pages before product releases Christian - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL The L looks like yet another attempt to compete for entry level customers coming from digital compacts. What's odd, though, is that there are no other pages at the Swedish Pentax site pointing to this particular page. No press, no news, no product spec... Looks like an info leak. :-) Jostein Quoting David Sládek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Pentax *ist-DL I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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That's very strange, did the entire country of Sweden just disappear, I can't seem to get to that web site. Henri Toivonen wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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Nope still doesn't work. Not even when typed into the navigation bar, (or accessed from the www.pentax.com website). Henri Toivonen wrote: Henri Toivonen wrote: I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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On 1/6/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera-- *ist_Dl/ HEHEHEHE silly pentax... posting pages before product releases Price *under* $800 US. So after a few months, maybe $649 on the street? Less? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Now I see it. It looks like the silver *ist-Ds announced recently. It seems to be a big yawn. David Sládek wrote: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Pentax *ist-DL I haven't seen this anywhere else, but someone found this on the swedish pentax site. It looks like another entry level model, targeted even lower than the DS. http://www.pentax.se/index.asp?url=http://www.pentax.se/default.asp?cat_id=491 6.1mpix, 2.8 frames/sec, 2.5 lcd, SD, PentaMIRROR, pretty much the same really. /Henri -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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That's the problem with not being able to read Swedish. Pentax is differentiating down market from the middle. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: David Sládek wrote on 01.06.05 12:33: http://81.92.66.63/index.asp?url=http://81.92.66.63/default.asp?cat_id=491 here is the correct link... DNS servers seem not to work Thanks David for IP :-) For me it seems to be just silver version of *istDs and nothing more... I don't think the s had pentamirror, but I may be wrong. Kostas -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 14:16: Meaning 3 point or spot autofocus... So it seems Pentax was left with a stock of used in MZ-5N/6 Safox IV circuits... This is billed as Safox VIII. Kostas
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Old hardware, new software??? Though since it's a different camera design, maybe new hardware old software... Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Toralf Lund wrote on 01.06.05 14:16: Meaning 3 point or spot autofocus... So it seems Pentax was left with a stock of used in MZ-5N/6 Safox IV circuits... This is billed as Safox VIII. Kostas -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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Just so it is clear now, Penta mirror is confirmed: Optical Viewfinder - Penta mirror with Natural-Bright-Matte II focusing screen Christian - Original Message - From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website! Christian wrote: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_Dl/ HEHEHEHE silly pentax... posting pages before product releases I'm hitting refresh occasionally and watching them add stuff - the specifications page was blank an hour ago... http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/digital_camera--*ist_DL S
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Developing a webpage on a live website, Amateurs. Steve Jolly wrote: Christian wrote: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_Dl/ HEHEHEHE silly pentax... posting pages before product releases I'm hitting refresh occasionally and watching them add stuff - the specifications page was blank an hour ago... http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_specs/digital_camera--*ist_DL S -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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Hence, along the crippled KAF mount, now we also have a crippled SAFOX VIII. It's great to be in Pentaxdom :-( Dario - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote on 01.06.05 17:54: This is billed as Safox VIII. Yes, but my piont was, that they could use old Safox IV - the same as in MZ-5N or MZ-6 - after all it has three AF points too. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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P. J. Alling wrote: Old hardware, new software??? Though since it's a different camera design, maybe new hardware old software... I'm not sure it's a *very* different camera design... other than a bigger LCD on the back and slightly different viewfinder optics (the pentamirror), I don't see any definite hardware differences wrt the *istDS. My guess is that the new 3-point SAFOX VIII system will be the old 11-point system with unnecessary hardware components omitted and new software to drive it. S
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if you didn't found this yet: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_Dl/ Alex Sarbu
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Christian wrote: Just so it is clear now, Penta mirror is confirmed: Optical Viewfinder - Penta mirror with Natural-Bright-Matte II focusing screen Same size as the *istDS; 1.2oz lighter (mostly due to the pentamirror, presumably...) *with* DOF preview. From the detailed specs, I can only see three changes wrt the *istDS - pentamirror, larger LCD, fewer focussing points. Although they do claim an auto ISO mode. Dunno if that's just the low-light ISO boost that the DS offers via a custom function or not. S
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At least in the US it comes in black... (Does that make it Professional). Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: if you didn't found this yet: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_Dl/ Alex Sarbu -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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Dario Bonazza wrote: Hence, along the crippled KAF mount, now we also have a crippled SAFOX VIII. It's great to be in Pentaxdom :-( They're not phasing out the *istDS, you know. Personally I find 11 AF points to be overkill. But then again, I only have one AF lens... ;-) S
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And the continuous AF is selectable by the customer (in the menu) in P/A/S/M modes, not only automatically set by Action Picture mode. Not so bad, after all! Dario - Original Message - From: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website! Christian wrote: Just so it is clear now, Penta mirror is confirmed: Optical Viewfinder - Penta mirror with Natural-Bright-Matte II focusing screen Same size as the *istDS; 1.2oz lighter (mostly due to the pentamirror, presumably...) *with* DOF preview. From the detailed specs, I can only see three changes wrt the *istDS - pentamirror, larger LCD, fewer focussing points. Although they do claim an auto ISO mode. Dunno if that's just the low-light ISO boost that the DS offers via a custom function or not. S
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Steve Jollywrote: Although they do claim an auto ISO mode. Dunno if that's just the low-light ISO boost that the DS offers via a custom function or not. Auto ISO setting is just a different way for doing the same as above. Dario
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It comes with a lens!!! DA 18-55mm Lens. Pentax is so smart. This well sell great. Its a good entry level camera to get new users to buy into the Pentax brand. Derek Christian wrote: Just so it is clear now, Penta mirror is confirmed: Optical Viewfinder - Penta mirror with Natural-Bright-Matte II focusing screen Same size as the *istDS; 1.2oz lighter (mostly due to the pentamirror, presumably...) *with* DOF preview. From the detailed specs, I can only see three changes wrt the *istDS - pentamirror, larger LCD, fewer focussing points. Although they do claim an auto ISO mode. Dunno if that's just the low-light ISO boost that the DS offers via a custom function or not. S
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Dario wrote: I'm not argumenting the choice of 3-segment AF here. That can be fine. I only ask why the hell they have to mess-up things that way. Whay don't they call the damn thing SAFOX IV, SAFOXIX (ah, ah), SAFOX L, or SAFOX WHATEVER? Why SAFOX VIII (which is another thing)? Maybe it is SAFOX V and the rest is printing error in the specifications? Pål
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On dpreview it says 8. Highaccuracy AF sensorsFeaturing the advanced SAFOX VIII AF system incorporating threecross-type wide-area AF sensors, the *istDL automatically selects themost appropriate sensor for a given subject. It also lets the user fixthe sensor point on the middle sensor for specific applications. Usingthe menu screen, the user can select the preferred focus mode betweenSingle AF, which locks the focus when the shutter release button ishalf-depressed, and Continuous AF,* which adjusts the focus to thesubject's movement.* This focus mode is available in the Auto Picture and Picture modes,only when the Action mode is selected. So, it works the same but with cross-type sensors. Alex Sarbu. On 6/1/05, Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario wrote: I'm not argumenting the choice of 3-segment AF here. That can be fine. I only ask why the hell they have to mess-up things that way. Whay don't they call the damn thing SAFOX IV, SAFOXIX (ah, ah), SAFOX L, or SAFOX WHATEVER? Why SAFOX VIII (which is another thing)? Maybe it is SAFOX V and the rest is printing error in the specifications? Pl
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Now on dpreview as well... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060104pentaxistdl.asp Alex Sarbu
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Just a hypothetical question: If you did NOT own any Pentax or k-mount lenses, why would you choose this body over the Nikon D50 or Canon 350D (RebelXT)? (price being equal or near-enough; I believe the D50 is supposed to be much less than the 350D, but let's ignore that right now) Christian - Original Message - From: Village Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website! It comes with a lens!!! DA 18-55mm Lens. Pentax is so smart. This well sell great. Its a good entry level camera to get new users to buy into the Pentax brand.
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Sorry, but I don't understand all the angst. This is a cutback DS allowing them to compete with stuff like the Nikon D50. It's not like they had to invest millions to redesign the thing. Also, it could very well be SAFOX VIII (the first version to use a cross sensor) but with fewer sensors. This is a very sensible and unsurprising camera to release, almost to the point of being a tweak to the DS. It's not like the DL is taking valuable resources away from that 16 MP FF DSLR they got in the back. As for the other end, a $10K MF DSLR is not going to have much impact; it might at $5-6K. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Using the menu screen, the user can select the preferred focus mode betweenSingle AF, which locks the focus when the shutter release button is half-depressed, and Continuous AF,* which adjusts the focus to the subject's movement.* This focus mode is available in the Auto Picture and Picture modes, only when the Action mode is selected. IMO, above sentence is pure crap. If continuous focus mode is available only when the action mode is selected, it cannot be selected by the user in menu screen. AFAIK, continuous AF is EITHER manually selectable in the menu screen by the user (in P/A/S/M modes) OR it is automatically set when in Action Picture mode. Dario
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I've never found a use for more than one focus point. John On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:30:21 +0100, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: Hence, along the crippled KAF mount, now we also have a crippled SAFOX VIII. It's great to be in Pentaxdom :-( They're not phasing out the *istDS, you know. Personally I find 11 AF points to be overkill. But then again, I only have one AF lens... ;-) S -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 31/05/2005
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Uh... I actually didn't read that. You're right ... :( But I think the Action mode must be selected, like with DS. Alex Sarbu (embarrased) On 6/1/05, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using the menu screen, the user can select the preferred focus mode betweenSingle AF, which locks the focus when the shutter release button is half-depressed, and Continuous AF,* which adjusts the focus to the subject's movement.* This focus mode is available in the Auto Picture and Picture modes, only when the Action mode is selected. IMO, above sentence is pure crap. If continuous focus mode is available only when the action mode is selected, it cannot be selected by the user in menu screen. AFAIK, continuous AF is EITHER manually selectable in the menu screen by the user (in P/A/S/M modes) OR it is automatically set when in Action Picture mode. Dario
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Offer the camera/electronics stores more prize money to sell it than Canon or Nikon.. Christian wrote: Just a hypothetical question: If you did NOT own any Pentax or k-mount lenses, why would you choose this body over the Nikon D50 or Canon 350D (RebelXT)? (price being equal or near-enough; I believe the D50 is supposed to be much less than the 350D, but let's ignore that right now) Christian - Original Message - From: Village Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website! It comes with a lens!!! DA 18-55mm Lens. Pentax is so smart. This well sell great. Its a good entry level camera to get new users to buy into the Pentax brand. -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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I guess you could have always asked that. Why did anyone ever buy a Pentax over Nikon or Canon as an entry level SLR camera? I think that features, feel, and price were always big factors. It could be that lens price and quality were factors as well. On the other hand, if you are going to buy an entry level SLR, then you may not know a lot about the line you are buying into. IMHO, when the Pentax SLR was most successful in the past, it had feature rich lower end models (like the ME Super). Of course, back then, I don't think Pentax had an online cadre of loyal users who encouraged potential customers to buy another brand camera. Derek Just a hypothetical question: If you did NOT own any Pentax or k-mount lenses, why would you choose this body over the Nikon D50 or Canon 350D (RebelXT)? (price being equal or near-enough; I believe the D50 is supposed to be much less than the 350D, but let's ignore that right now) Christian - Original Message - From: Village Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website! It comes with a lens!!! DA 18-55mm Lens. Pentax is so smart. This well sell great. Its a good entry level camera to get new users to buy into the Pentax brand.
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On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 03:58:31PM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 1/6/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera-- *ist_Dl/ HEHEHEHE silly pentax... posting pages before product releases Price *under* $800 US. So after a few months, maybe $649 on the street? Less? Less. It's under $800, with the kit lens, at Amazon. I expect this to end up around $600 (bodty only), street price.
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Yes, but is is useful to move it where you need it, choosing between useful positions for tracking moving subjects while keeping proper composition. Almost all of my concert/sports pictures taken during the last years are shot this way. Dario - Original Message - From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL I've never found a use for more than one focus point. John
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I have. It's the primary motivator for my upgrade from the PZ-1p to the MZ-S, and it was a significant factor in my going to a *ist-D. It's also why I'm looking to find some real AF glass, rather than A* lenses with the 1.7x adapter (which only lets me use the central AF point). But I'm not a representative user; I shoot a lot of stuff with long telephotos (so hardly any DOF) where I don't want the in-focus area to be in the centre of the frame. On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 06:20:27PM +0100, John Forbes wrote: I've never found a use for more than one focus point. John On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:30:21 +0100, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dario Bonazza wrote: Hence, along the crippled KAF mount, now we also have a crippled SAFOX VIII. It's great to be in Pentaxdom :-( They're not phasing out the *istDS, you know. Personally I find 11 AF points to be overkill. But then again, I only have one AF lens... ;-) S -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.3.3 - Release Date: 31/05/2005
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Hi, Sweden been in place since about 1100-1200 AD when it was consolidated, and its still there. Haven't seen any temporary time-space shutdowns - either. Problems though are called digital revolution. Cheers, Ronald Re: Pentax *ist-DL P. J. Alling Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:52:47 -0700 That's very strange, did the entire country of Sweden just disappear, I can't seem to get to that web site.
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Is it already listed on the Amazon site? $600 body only? But it comes with a lens - there's no body only option, at least not yet. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis Less. It's under $800, with the kit lens, at Amazon. I expect this to end up around $600 (body only), street price.
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if you showed someone all three cameras and they did not already have a Canon/Nikon brand bias, then I think the *ist DS or DL could do OK. I like small camera bodies, and it has just as nicer fell to it than the Rebel (IMHO). Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/01/05 1:08 PM Just a hypothetical question: If you did NOT own any Pentax or k-mount lenses, why would you choose this body over the Nikon D50 or Canon 350D (RebelXT)? (price being equal or near-enough; I believe the D50 is supposed to be much less than the 350D, but let's ignore that right now) Christian - Original Message - From: Village Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL on USA website! It comes with a lens!!! DA 18-55mm Lens. Pentax is so smart. This well sell great. Its a good entry level camera to get new users to buy into the Pentax brand.
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Well, as we are celebrating 100 years freedom from Sweden these days I´ve seen a reprint of a map of Scandinavia without Sweden. It´s only fair, since the EU often print maps of Europe without Norway. DagT På 1. jun. 2005 kl. 19.58 skrev Ronald Arvidsson: Hi, Sweden been in place since about 1100-1200 AD when it was consolidated, and its still there. Haven't seen any temporary time-space shutdowns - either. Problems though are called digital revolution. Cheers, Ronald Re: Pentax *ist-DL P. J. Alling Wed, 01 Jun 2005 07:52:47 -0700 That's very strange, did the entire country of Sweden just disappear, I can't seem to get to that web site.
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On 1/6/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: It´s only fair, since the EU often print maps of Europe without Norway. After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Cotty wrote: On 1/6/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: It´s only fair, since the EU often print maps of Europe without Norway. I'm tempted to say, You're kidding, right?! keith whaley After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! Cheers, Cotty
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- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! LOL. I bet the new constitution has been promoted by the Pentax advertising department. Jostein
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EU equals Europe to countries within the union. Which isn't much of a mistake to make anymore, really. Probably good for the tourist business; it makes us more exotic. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:44 PM Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL Cotty wrote: On 1/6/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: It´s only fair, since the EU often print maps of Europe without Norway. I'm tempted to say, You're kidding, right?! keith whaley After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! Cheers, Cotty
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I don't think anyone actually read the new EU constitution, it's the size of the New York phone book. Citizens of the US can carry their entire constitution and all amendments to it in a small pamphlet, Canadians, though their constitution is a bit more complicated, can at least carry the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It makes it easy to quote your rights to government functionaries while they're violating them. If you tried to do that with the proposed EU constitution you'd a hand truck. Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! LOL. I bet the new constitution has been promoted by the Pentax advertising department. Jostein -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Christian wrote: http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/digital_camera--*ist_Dl/ HEHEHEHE silly pentax... posting pages before product releases Nah, just getting ready. Kostas
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Right, but EU constitution is different than a country constitution and does not replace it. As most European country likely have stupidely complicated consitution it is just not surprising the EU consitution is itself complicated. 2005/6/1, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't think anyone actually read the new EU constitution, it's the size of the New York phone book. Citizens of the US can carry their entire constitution and all amendments to it in a small pamphlet, Canadians, though their constitution is a bit more complicated, can at least carry the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It makes it easy to quote your rights to government functionaries while they're violating them. If you tried to do that with the proposed EU constitution you'd a hand truck. Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! LOL. I bet the new constitution has been promoted by the Pentax advertising department. Jostein -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx -- -- Thibouille -- Z1,SuperA,KX,MX,P30t and KR-10x ...
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They printed one without Wales last year. Everything looked so much tidier. So ... harmonised. -- Yakky Da! Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 June 2005 19:34 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Pentax *ist-DL On 1/6/05, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed: It´s only fair, since the EU often print maps of Europe without Norway. After the Netherlands votes no, the EU can print maps with no countries on it at all! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
