Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
On 29/1/07, Angel Ramos, discombobulated, unleashed: Way to go Godfrey! I did also placed my order!. When I said there were no angels on this list, I meant except one ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
I haven't got any clue yet from all discussions why Lightroom is so special that I should buy this. I got Elements 5 which does all organizing of PEF and DNG files, provides 3.6 RAW conversion, and has also all the editing tools, like clone brush and healing tool, I (seem to) need, and is basically cheaper. What extra will Lightroom bring me, in other words why do I need to replace or amplify Elements by Lightroom? It would be useful to see somewhere a side-by-side comparison of all properties of CS, Elements and Lightroom. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 29 January, 2007 3:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 30/1/07, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Huh Yeah Brits are even more than us Euro users when it comes to dollar conversion... which means the really get * IMO. Sorry but I think this is reality. What, and you didn't get ** when you changed from Francs to Euros? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Well not much IMO really. Some crap companies thought it was a good occasion of driving price higher, sure, put except those, I see no problem with that. Also, it lets me buy whatever in EU without problem and a lot easier than before so I won't complain. 2007/1/30, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30/1/07, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Huh Yeah Brits are even more than us Euro users when it comes to dollar conversion... which means the really get * IMO. Sorry but I think this is reality. What, and you didn't get ** when you changed from Francs to Euros? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
I understand you hesitate and certainly I understand it is somewhat difficult to see the difference between products and what does what? However I understand Lightroom is not an image editor (cool 'cos I really dunno much about the use of those things :) and more toward Managing collection of image (better than bridge I suppose?) and developing RAW - Jpegs. Cool, exactly what I need and price is a lot more like what I can afford than PS. PSE might be indeed interesting also. 2007/1/30, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't got any clue yet from all discussions why Lightroom is so special that I should buy this. I got Elements 5 which does all organizing of PEF and DNG files, provides 3.6 RAW conversion, and has also all the editing tools, like clone brush and healing tool, I (seem to) need, and is basically cheaper. What extra will Lightroom bring me, in other words why do I need to replace or amplify Elements by Lightroom? It would be useful to see somewhere a side-by-side comparison of all properties of CS, Elements and Lightroom. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 29 January, 2007 3:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well not much IMO really. Some crap companies ... Some crap companies? Practically everything has bl**dy doubled. Pubs and restaurants are particularly bad. Just a few days ago, I drove by a friterie (the Belgian equivalent of a fish and chips shop for the Brits) where they advertised moules frites (mussels and chips) for 17 euros. If he had offered his mussels at 700 francs, a few years ago, people would have told him to have his head examined. A cup of coffee has risen from 20 francs (50 cent) to somewhere between 1,20 and 1,60. Maybe here in Germany, it's more obvious. At a rate of 2 deutschmarks = 1 euro, everything that sold for one mark before now costs one euro. We call it the teuro, from teuer = expensive. I for one want my marks and francs back. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
2007/1/30, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well not much IMO really. We call it the teuro, from teuer = expensive. LOL good one ;) I think it is a lot more in Germany than here. Of course inlfation is a lot responsible and probably it is often more easy to put that on Euro's fault than anythig else. I mean 20 years ago I did't have to pay €7,5 when I wanted to watch a movie. Euro's fault only? A bit easy, no ? -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is a lot more in Germany than here. The examples I've quoted are all from Belgium. I wouldn't touch German coffee with a bargepole. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
The examples I've quoted are all from Belgium. I wouldn't touch German coffee with a bargepole. Ralf LOL ;) But I never saw a cofee @ 20 francs a bit before introduction of the Euro, really. (Well, I might be off). Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
On 30/1/07, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: The examples I've quoted are all from Belgium. I wouldn't touch German coffee with a bargepole. Not even one photographed at night on the Rhine in all it's panoramic glory ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not even one photographed at night on the Rhine in all it's panoramic glory ;-) At the price of a week of heartburn? No thanks, but no. ;-) For the last 10 years, my photography has been fuelled by: http://www.cafeliegeois.com/index.htm Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 30/01/07, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the last 10 years, my photography has been fuelled by: http://www.cafeliegeois.com/index.htm Ah, no wonder you use a tripod :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
In a message dated 1/30/2007 1:01:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't got any clue yet from all discussions why Lightroom is so special that I should buy this. I got Elements 5 which does all organizing of PEF and DNG files, provides 3.6 RAW conversion, and has also all the editing tools, like clone brush and healing tool, I (seem to) need, and is basically cheaper. What extra will Lightroom bring me, in other words why do I need to replace or amplify Elements by Lightroom? It would be useful to see somewhere a side-by-side comparison of all properties of CS, Elements and Lightroom. Henk Agreed. I wonder the same things. Elements (I have version 5 now too), does a good job of organizing photos. So why would I want Lightroom? Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
I subscribe to the notion that if I need to understand a software product, a camera or anything else complex, reading the literature available and then working with the product is the right way to go. Lightroom is an image editing tool designed specifically for photographic purposes. Photoshop's history is much broader spectrum than that and, as a result, it has many many features that are not relevant to photographic endeavors at all, or relevant to only a very limited set of uses in photography. That makes it more difficult to learn and more complex to use. Lightroom's design is intended to work with you doing the kinds of things that a photographer needs to do ... import exposure files from cameras, organize them, rank them, render them, then output them for higher level editing, print and web presentation. The best way to understand for me was to read the Adobe pages, watch their videos, and then go to the tutorial videos I marked ** below. Adobe pages http://labs.adobe.com http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/ Video tutorials, reviews, other info: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/lightroom1.shtml http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Lightroom_4/01/index.html ** http://www.goingdigital.co.uk/pages/adobelightroomcourses.htm http://www.photoshopsupport.com/lightroom/tutorials.html http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html http://www.seanmcfoto.com/ lightroom/ On the other hand, if what you have is doing the job for you satisfactorily, then there's no need to switch. enjoy, Godfrey On Jan 30, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: I haven't got any clue yet from all discussions why Lightroom is so special that I should buy this. I got Elements 5 which does all organizing of PEF and DNG files, provides 3.6 RAW conversion, and has also all the editing tools, like clone brush and healing tool, I (seem to) need, and is basically cheaper. What extra will Lightroom bring me, in other words why do I need to replace or amplify Elements by Lightroom? It would be useful to see somewhere a side-by-side comparison of all properties of CS, Elements and Lightroom. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 29 January, 2007 3:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
In a nutshell, Lightroom is a workflow application combining the operations of photo management (importing, sorting, tagging, ranking, and organizing) with tonal editing, cropping, presentation and outputting for higher level editing. It is designed specifically for the photographic endeavor, not as a generalized tool that works across the broader spectrum of graphic arts needs like Photoshop/ Photoshop Elements. In adopting Lightroom, Photoshop becomes a complement for higher level editing functions (compositing, selective manipulations, etc.). See the links I posted in a separate email for more information resources. Godfrey On Jan 30, 2007, at 1:09 AM, Thibouille wrote: I understand you hesitate and certainly I understand it is somewhat difficult to see the difference between products and what does what? However I understand Lightroom is not an image editor (cool 'cos I really dunno much about the use of those things :) and more toward Managing collection of image (better than bridge I suppose?) and developing RAW - Jpegs. Cool, exactly what I need and price is a lot more like what I can afford than PS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Well, obviously there are limits. Just found this on their website: http://www.cafeliegeois.com/kopi_luwak.htm 270 USD for 15 cups. I am taking orders. I have seen how my 18-mth old ferments corn; should be easy. Payment in Pentax equipment gratefully accepted. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, no wonder you use a tripod :-) A popular misconception. Decent coffee contains much less cafeine and irritants (i.e. acid) than the cheapo stuff. Well, obviously there are limits. Just found this on their website: http://www.cafeliegeois.com/kopi_luwak.htm 270 USD for 15 cups. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
A couple more http://www.method-photo.co.uk/lightroom/index.html http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/ I may have posted this next one before http://www.outbackphoto.com/artofraw/raw_31/essay.html Personally I find online video tutorials very useful. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 30. januar 2007 16:10 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement I subscribe to the notion that if I need to understand a software product, a camera or anything else complex, reading the literature available and then working with the product is the right way to go. Lightroom is an image editing tool designed specifically for photographic purposes. Photoshop's history is much broader spectrum than that and, as a result, it has many many features that are not relevant to photographic endeavors at all, or relevant to only a very limited set of uses in photography. That makes it more difficult to learn and more complex to use. Lightroom's design is intended to work with you doing the kinds of things that a photographer needs to do ... import exposure files from cameras, organize them, rank them, render them, then output them for higher level editing, print and web presentation. The best way to understand for me was to read the Adobe pages, watch their videos, and then go to the tutorial videos I marked ** below. Adobe pages http://labs.adobe.com http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/ Video tutorials, reviews, other info: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/lightroom1.shtml http://pictureflow.fileburst.com/_Tutorials/Lightroom_4/01/index.html ** http://www.goingdigital.co.uk/pages/adobelightroomcourses.htm http://www.photoshopsupport.com/lightroom/tutorials.html http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html http://www.seanmcfoto.com/ lightroom/ On the other hand, if what you have is doing the job for you satisfactorily, then there's no need to switch. enjoy, Godfrey On Jan 30, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: I haven't got any clue yet from all discussions why Lightroom is so special that I should buy this. I got Elements 5 which does all organizing of PEF and DNG files, provides 3.6 RAW conversion, and has also all the editing tools, like clone brush and healing tool, I (seem to) need, and is basically cheaper. What extra will Lightroom bring me, in other words why do I need to replace or amplify Elements by Lightroom? It would be useful to see somewhere a side-by-side comparison of all properties of CS, Elements and Lightroom. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 29 January, 2007 3:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
I forgot to mention that the new Camera Raw 3.7 will be available by February 28 and will support the K10D PEF files. Angel Angel Ramos wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks... Much to think of now... On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot to mention that the new Camera Raw 3.7 will be available by February 28 and will support the K10D PEF files. Angel Angel Ramos wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Angel! The pricing is pretty close to what I expected. I imagine that once it hits the streets, after the introductory offer, the pricing will stick around that $199 intro offer level. Doesn't matter much ... My order is in already. :-) G On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Mike Hamilton wrote: Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Huh as usual for thoses guys, $200 = €200. I hate technology when dollar - euro conversion occurs :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That's an interesting point. If I were to buy this, which I might, what kind of price I would have to pay and to whom exactly I'll be paying my money... On 1/29/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh as usual for thoses guys, $200 = €200. I hate technology when dollar - euro conversion occurs :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! Well it doesn't quite make up for academic salaries, but I'll second that whoopee anyway. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/29/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! Well it doesn't quite make up for academic salaries, but I'll second that whoopee anyway. ;-) LOL. Counting grad school I have been working at a university for 21 out of the last 22 years. My one year in industry was enough to know that I was better suited for academic life. I took a 20% pay cut to get back and I probably earn less that 50% what I would make in industry with a similar position. At least I do not have to wear a tie 8-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Think yourself lucky. For some of us it's $200 = €200 = £200. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 29 January 2007 15:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Huh as usual for thoses guys, $200 = €200. I hate technology when dollar - euro conversion occurs :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Academic pricing from Adobe on other prices has always delivered the same software that was sold over the counter, to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of the license agreement and possibly upgrade restrictions; maybe some bundle differences as well (the add- ons and extras in the box). There's no way to say for sure that this will be the same for Lightroom but I doubt they want to incur the support and development costs of a different version for the edu market. Godfrey On Jan 29, 2007, at 1:19 PM, David Weiss wrote: Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Dave, My experience with with academic versions of software is that you get the full release of the program. What you do not get is tech support or sometimes manuals. This is true of Corel. I am not sure how Adobe operates. Perry. On 1/29/07, David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
On 1/29/07, Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, My experience with with academic versions of software is that you get the full release of the program. What you do not get is tech support or sometimes manuals. This is true of Corel. I am not sure how Adobe operates. Perry. As a teacher, I purchased the student licensed Adobe CS2 Premium Suite (Mac) for about $200USD I received several DVDs, including the Install discs (4 discs), two Resources Extras discs, and one Video Workshop Tutorial. It's a full install of CS2, including GoLIve, Illustrator, ImageReady, Photoshop, Bridge, Acrobat Professional, InDesign, etc... There was no manual. I don't know about tech support. HTH. Mike On 1/29/07, David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
In a message dated 1/29/2007 1:42:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. Dave == I am a continual student just to get academic discounts. I find one online class to take each semester. And by doing that, I must say, I have had some interesting classes too. Last semester it was Shakespeare, this semester it is American Film, 1900-1950's. Nyah, they are probably just the same. Unless they state otherwise. But so far I have only found one program where it might be significantly different, Peachtree Accounting. The Adobe programs I have bought are the same -- I think I bought CS Illustrator Academic Version. Just the packaging, CD/DVD label, etc., is different. Think about it, it's too darn much trouble to make various edition varieties. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Come on Bob, It is more like $200 = €220 = £199 On Monday 29 January 2007 21:40, Bob W wrote: Think yourself lucky. For some of us it's $200 = €200 = £200. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 29 January 2007 15:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Huh as usual for thoses guys, $200 = €200. I hate technology when dollar - euro conversion occurs :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Actually, we seem to have got lucky on this one. I have ordered it for £125 + shipping + VAT. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frits Wüthrich Sent: 29 January 2007 23:18 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Come on Bob, It is more like $200 = €220 = £199 On Monday 29 January 2007 21:40, Bob W wrote: Think yourself lucky. For some of us it's $200 = €200 = £200. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 29 January 2007 15:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Huh as usual for thoses guys, $200 = €200. I hate technology when dollar - euro conversion occurs :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Way to go Godfrey! I did also placed my order!. Angel Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Thanks Angel! The pricing is pretty close to what I expected. I imagine that once it hits the streets, after the introductory offer, the pricing will stick around that $199 intro offer level. Doesn't matter much ... My order is in already. :-) G On Jan 29, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Mike Hamilton wrote: Hey, they've now included a clone tool and healing brush! Very nice. Mike On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Perry, Could you give me the direct link to the education discount for Lightroom? I found the info on Lightroom and the Education store, but the store did not mention Lightroom directly. Anyway, yes, Whoopee! Must convince my little wifey that this is money well spent. I could always do what she does to me, which is to say how much money we saved! Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Dave, My experience with with academic versions of software is that you get the full release of the program. What you do not get is tech support or sometimes manuals. This is true of Corel. I am not sure how Adobe operates. Perry. On 1/29/07, David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Dave, The only place I have found that has the information about the academic pricing is in the FAQ: (second from the bottom) http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/productinfo/faq/ When I went into the online education store there was a notice that Lightroom was not found. I assume this is due to it being just released and by the time it is released it will probably be on their site. Perry. On 1/29/07, David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perry, Could you give me the direct link to the education discount for Lightroom? I found the info on Lightroom and the Education store, but the store did not mention Lightroom directly. Anyway, yes, Whoopee! Must convince my little wifey that this is money well spent. I could always do what she does to me, which is to say how much money we saved! Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Dave, My experience with with academic versions of software is that you get the full release of the program. What you do not get is tech support or sometimes manuals. This is true of Corel. I am not sure how Adobe operates. Perry. On 1/29/07, David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone know if that academic discount gives you exactly the same version of the program that everyone else will get for $199? I've always thought that they give you the lite version, but I could be wrong. Dave Perry Pellechia wrote: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Academic pricing from Adobe on other prices has always delivered the same software that was sold over the counter, to the best of my knowledge, with the exception of the license agreement and possibly upgrade restrictions; maybe some bundle differences as well (the add- ons and extras in the box). My academic version of Photoshop is identical to the standard version. There's no way to say for sure that this will be the same for Lightroom but I doubt they want to incur the support and development costs of a different version for the edu market. And they rely on those of us who teach this stuff at universities to use their software and thus insure that the students are initiated into the Adobe world/mindset at an early age. Like something out of one of the early Star Trek episodes ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Huh Yeah Brits are even more than us Euro users when it comes to dollar conversion... which means the really get * IMO. Sorry but I think this is reality. 2007/1/30, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Come on Bob, It is more like $200 = €220 = £199 On Monday 29 January 2007 21:40, Bob W wrote: Think yourself lucky. For some of us it's $200 = €200 = £200. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 29 January 2007 15:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement Huh as usual for thoses guys, $200 = €200. I hate technology when dollar - euro conversion occurs :( -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date announcement
Mmm Adobe academic pricing in France seems VERY different. PS CS2 acafdemic is available for €500 it seems. Weird isn't it ? If I can (I'm teacher) get Lightroom for €100 then I'll buy it immediately but I don't why I suspect I'll get screwed somewhere in the process :( 2007/1/29, Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Those like me who qualify for academic pricing will be happy to know (from the FAQ): Does Photoshop Lightroom have educational pricing? Yes. Adobe is proud to support the efforts of teachers and students, who may purchase Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 for $99. Other licensing programs will also be in effect—please see www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/openoptions for more details. Whoopee! On 1/29/07, Angel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News about the sale and shipping date at this link! You can place a pre-order at a lower price! Asking price $199 (until April 30,2007) then will go up to $299! There will be added enhancements at the shipping time of February 28. Actual beta program will expire on 02/27/2006. http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01/28/lightroom/index.php Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
