Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-31 Thread Mark Cassino
Scott Loveless wrote:

 Thanks, Mark.  I did a little poking around.  That 55/3.5 looks like it 
 has 100mm threads on it.  Ouch!  If I get a 67 my wife is gonna murder 
 me when I start buying things like polarizers.

Yeah - that's the problem with that lens. But when I was researching 
55mm lenses I say some remarkably positive comments about the takumar 55 
f3.5  But then - the 67 55 f4 is universally acclaimed as a great lens.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread David Savage
On 8/29/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ooh.  That's pretty.  How do you like the 105?

No complaints. But I've only shot 1 roll so far.

Not enough experience with it yet to make a real judgement.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread Mark Cassino
I have a 6x7 with MLU, but no metering. I've had no problem getting it 
serviced - one of the old camera repair outfits in the area has a good 
supply of 6x7 parts on hand and the guy there loves to work on them.

WRT lenses - I've been very happy with the 67 55mm f4, Takumar 105 f 2.8 
and 150 f2.8.  The 45 would be a nice addition as well.

WRT 55mm lenes - there were 3 of them made for the 6x7 / 67. The 67 55mm 
f4 is outstanding. The 6x7 55mm f4 is not. I originally had the latter 
and sold it - it was a weird lens in that some shots were fabulous, but 
others had really bad distortion in the corners and edges. Be careful 
when buying because the lenses have the same basic specs (55m, f4, 77mm 
front objective.)

The third 55mm is an f3.5 and is the oldest of the batch - it generally 
gets great reviews but has a big and odd sized front element, so filters 
could be a problem.

- MCC


Scott Loveless wrote:
 Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also 
 considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a 
 67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall 
 reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better 
 option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would 
 someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens 
 to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any 
 opinions?  Thanks!
 


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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread pnstenquist
You can distinguish the two 55/4s by the placement of the lens designation 
type. On the later, prefered version, the type appears on a chamfer on the end 
of the focus ring. Just like an A series lens f or Pentax 35mm. I have this 
lens as well and love it. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have a 6x7 with MLU, but no metering. I've had no problem getting it 
 serviced - one of the old camera repair outfits in the area has a good 
 supply of 6x7 parts on hand and the guy there loves to work on them.
 
 WRT lenses - I've been very happy with the 67 55mm f4, Takumar 105 f 2.8 
 and 150 f2.8.  The 45 would be a nice addition as well.
 
 WRT 55mm lenes - there were 3 of them made for the 6x7 / 67. The 67 55mm 
 f4 is outstanding. The 6x7 55mm f4 is not. I originally had the latter 
 and sold it - it was a weird lens in that some shots were fabulous, but 
 others had really bad distortion in the corners and edges. Be careful 
 when buying because the lenses have the same basic specs (55m, f4, 77mm 
 front objective.)
 
 The third 55mm is an f3.5 and is the oldest of the batch - it generally 
 gets great reviews but has a big and odd sized front element, so filters 
 could be a problem.
 
 - MCC
 
 
 Scott Loveless wrote:
  Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also 
  considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a 
  67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall 
  reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better 
  option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would 
  someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens 
  to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any 
  opinions?  Thanks!
  
 
 
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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread Norm Baugher
If you're gonna use a flash, go with the 165/4 LS...(lovely lens BTW).
Also, make sure the body is thoroughly brassed, improves performance.
Norm

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Thanks, Bill. Intended use is general photography (how vague is that?)
 and the occasional portrait.  More often than not I either have a 50mm 
 lens on a 35mm body, or my zoom gets set at something close to 50.  I 
 guess I'm just comfortable with that focal length.  As such, I was 
 looking primarily at normal lenses.  I could probably get by with a 
 150mm or 165mm lens to start, which would be fine for the portraiture 
 thing.  I'll only have enough cash for one lens, so the 105 is looking 
 rather attractive.

 TMAX isn't an issue for me as I prefer more traditional film.  Besides, 
 it eats fixer.

 On the flip side, a 645 with two or three lenses and a spare magazine 
 will cost about the same.  I'm just not sure I can live with sisterhood.

   

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Norm Baugher wrote:
 If you're gonna use a flash, go with the 165/4 LS...(lovely lens BTW).
 Also, make sure the body is thoroughly brassed, improves performance.
 Norm

   
Thanks, Norm.  I'm assuming, because I haven't read up on it, that the 
LS lenses for the 67 are much like the LS lenses for the 645.  You set 
the body to a slow shutter, 1/8th or so, and have to cock the shutter on 
the lens manually?  In situations where I wouldn't be using the LS, does 
the lens function just like any other?

Brassing is, of course, required.  Bargain outfits from KEH are about 
all be able to afford, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread Norm Baugher
Yep, just like the 645 and yes it's a great lens when using it normally 
without the LS.
Good to hear about the brassing.
Norm

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Norm Baugher wrote:
   
 If you're gonna use a flash, go with the 165/4 LS...(lovely lens BTW).
 Also, make sure the body is thoroughly brassed, improves performance.
 Norm

   
 
 Thanks, Norm.  I'm assuming, because I haven't read up on it, that the 
 LS lenses for the 67 are much like the LS lenses for the 645.  You set 
 the body to a slow shutter, 1/8th or so, and have to cock the shutter on 
 the lens manually?  In situations where I wouldn't be using the LS, does 
 the lens function just like any other?

 Brassing is, of course, required.  Bargain outfits from KEH are about 
 all be able to afford, so that shouldn't be a problem.

   

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Scott,

Yes, basically that is it.  I used to have both the 165 LS and the 90
LS.

Yes, they did make a 90mm leaf shutter lens.  It is older and slightly
more dangerous to use.  The reason I say that is you can't really tell
from the viewfinder that the leaf shutter is cocked.

On the 165, after firing the leaf shutter, the viewfinder goes black
until you re-cock it.  So you are very aware that you haven't cocked
it yet for the next shot.  On the 90, you can still see just fine, so
you take the first shot at 1/8 sec and then forget to cock the leaf
and take the second shot at truly 1/8 sec - severe over exposure and
camera movement result.  If you are more careful it works just fine.

Both lenses operate as normal lenses when you don't want to use the
leaf shutter.  Based on focal length, I found the 90 slightly more
useful than the telephoto 165.  If you are doing daylight fill, they
are the only way to go - otherwise you are stuck with a max shutter
speed of 1/30 sec.

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Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 8:37:08 AM, you wrote:

SL Norm Baugher wrote:
 If you're gonna use a flash, go with the 165/4 LS...(lovely lens BTW).
 Also, make sure the body is thoroughly brassed, improves performance.
 Norm

   
SL Thanks, Norm.  I'm assuming, because I haven't read up on it, that the
SL LS lenses for the 67 are much like the LS lenses for the 645. You set
SL the body to a slow shutter, 1/8th or so, and have to cock the shutter on
SL the lens manually?  In situations where I wouldn't be using the LS, does
SL the lens function just like any other?

SL Brassing is, of course, required.  Bargain outfits from KEH are about
SL all be able to afford, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Cassino wrote:
 I have a 6x7 with MLU, but no metering. I've had no problem getting it 
 serviced - one of the old camera repair outfits in the area has a good 
 supply of 6x7 parts on hand and the guy there loves to work on them.

 WRT lenses - I've been very happy with the 67 55mm f4, Takumar 105 f 2.8 
 and 150 f2.8.  The 45 would be a nice addition as well.

 WRT 55mm lenes - there were 3 of them made for the 6x7 / 67. The 67 55mm 
 f4 is outstanding. The 6x7 55mm f4 is not. I originally had the latter 
 and sold it - it was a weird lens in that some shots were fabulous, but 
 others had really bad distortion in the corners and edges. Be careful 
 when buying because the lenses have the same basic specs (55m, f4, 77mm 
 front objective.)

 The third 55mm is an f3.5 and is the oldest of the batch - it generally 
 gets great reviews but has a big and odd sized front element, so filters 
 could be a problem.

 - MCC


   
Thanks, Mark.  I did a little poking around.  That 55/3.5 looks like it 
has 100mm threads on it.  Ouch!  If I get a 67 my wife is gonna murder 
me when I start buying things like polarizers.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-29 Thread David J Brooks
I had/have electrical tape on the switch so it would saty in the right
place(the 90 ls) but sometimes the tape fell off and the switch moved.

Dave

On 8/29/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Scott,

 Yes, basically that is it.  I used to have both the 165 LS and the 90
 LS.

 Yes, they did make a 90mm leaf shutter lens.  It is older and slightly
 more dangerous to use.  The reason I say that is you can't really tell
 from the viewfinder that the leaf shutter is cocked.

 On the 165, after firing the leaf shutter, the viewfinder goes black
 until you re-cock it.  So you are very aware that you haven't cocked
 it yet for the next shot.  On the 90, you can still see just fine, so
 you take the first shot at 1/8 sec and then forget to cock the leaf
 and take the second shot at truly 1/8 sec - severe over exposure and
 camera movement result.  If you are more careful it works just fine.

 Both lenses operate as normal lenses when you don't want to use the
 leaf shutter.  Based on focal length, I found the 90 slightly more
 useful than the telephoto 165.  If you are doing daylight fill, they
 are the only way to go - otherwise you are stuck with a max shutter
 speed of 1/30 sec.

 --
 Bruce


 Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 8:37:08 AM, you wrote:

 SL Norm Baugher wrote:
  If you're gonna use a flash, go with the 165/4 LS...(lovely lens BTW).
  Also, make sure the body is thoroughly brassed, improves performance.
  Norm
 
 
 SL Thanks, Norm.  I'm assuming, because I haven't read up on it, that the
 SL LS lenses for the 67 are much like the LS lenses for the 645. You set
 SL the body to a slow shutter, 1/8th or so, and have to cock the shutter on
 SL the lens manually?  In situations where I wouldn't be using the LS, does
 SL the lens function just like any other?

 SL Brassing is, of course, required.  Bargain outfits from KEH are about
 SL all be able to afford, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Gasha

Ahh, it looks as NEW...?
Nice toy :)

Gasha

David Savage wrote:
 At 09:58 AM 28/08/2007, Scott Loveless wrote:
 
 
 But I got this one:
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/IMGP5720.jpg
 
 ...with MLU, metered prism and the SMC Takumar 105mm f2.4 last year
 
 I wish I had gotten the 55mm as my standard lens (had the option but I was 
 too cheap)
 
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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
HI Scott.

I have the 6x7 with mirror lock up, so i quess thats the more recent
one of that set.

Its heavy, but as proven by WW and Aaron Reynolds, can be handheld at
slow speeds  with good results.

I have the 90 f2.8 leaf lens and the Tak 200 F 4( i tyhink it is.)

That 200 is the best lens i own other then the 77, and both take
lovely pictures, nice a crisp.

I always wanted to get a wider lens but never got around to getting one.

Not sure about fixing them, but i';m sure there are people out there
that can still work them.

Brother Dave

On 8/27/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also
 considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a
 67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall
 reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better
 option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would
 someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens
 to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any
 opinions?  Thanks!

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Gasha

I'm waiting for my 6x7 that i got in eBay :)

non-MLU version is not serviceable, i think so.
But all other versions are.

See this page:

http://www.photoethnography.com/equipment.html

If you would like to do long exposures, better get 6x7 version.


Gasha

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also 
 considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a 
 67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall 
 reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better 
 option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would 
 someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens 
 to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any 
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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread David Savage
On 8/28/07, Gasha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ahh, it looks as NEW...?

Pretty much. not a scratch or touch of brassing anywhere on it.

1 previous owner, who was more of a collector than a shooter.

 Nice toy :)

I think so :-)

I just need to get it out  use it more often.
(no selective quoting of that last line please ;-)

Cheers,

Dave

 Gasha

 David Savage wrote:
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/IMGP5720.jpg
 
  ...with MLU, metered prism and the SMC Takumar 105mm f2.4 last year
 
  I wish I had gotten the 55mm as my standard lens (had the option but I was
  too cheap)
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Scott,
I'd go for a 67.  6x7 with mirror lock-up is a minimum.  I like the
165/2.8 lens, but I think the 105/2.4 is the better in your normal
range.
You know there are a full complement of lenses, finders, and gadgets
for these cameras.  You are embarking on major league enablement.
Regards, Bob S.

On 8/27/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also
 considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a
 67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall
 reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better
 option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would
 someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens
 to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any
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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Help filling out the Brotherhood application


 Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also
 considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a
 67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall
 reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better
 option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would
 someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens
 to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any
 opinions?  Thanks!


I can't speak to the 67 body, I've held one, but not used one. I have used 
the 6x7 for about 20 years though, and can speak to it.
You will want an MLU body, non MLU bodies were only available for the first 
couple of years of production, the MLU bodies had some internal 
improvements.
Later 6x7 bodies had improved film transport reliability.
Original T-Max film was hell on 6x7 film transport. Check frame spacing for 
evenness, if the frame spacing is uneven, the film transport needs work. Get 
it adjusted before the frames start overlapping.
If you get the meter prism, don't ever mount the meter prism with a lens on 
the body. Remove the lens, then install the prism. The meter control in the 
body is a very fine and delicate chain, and it can be broken if you mount 
the prism with the chain held out of position.
The meter is quite red sensitive, keep that in mind if you are using filters 
with BW film.
All the lenses are very good, The SMC lenses should be better than the older 
Taks, but the Taks are, for the most part, superb. The Tak 75/4.5 is 
somewhat flare prone, but otherwise is very sharp and contrasty, The 45 is a 
gem, as is the 90 leaf, the 135 macro, both 165mm lenses (the 2.8 and the 
f/4LS), and the 200 tak and 300mm lenses are very good indeed, as well.
All eight of the lenses I own for the 6x7 are superb. If you saw Cesar 
shooting 6x7 at GFM, odds are, you saw one or more of my lenses.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
On 8/28/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 William Robb wrote:
 
  I can't speak to the 67 body, I've held one, but not used one. I have used
  the 6x7 for about 20 years though, and can speak to it.
  You will want an MLU body, non MLU bodies were only available for the first
  couple of years of production, the MLU bodies had some internal
  improvements.
  Later 6x7 bodies had improved film transport reliability.
  Original T-Max film was hell on 6x7 film transport. Check frame spacing for
  evenness, if the frame spacing is uneven, the film transport needs work. Get
  it adjusted before the frames start overlapping.
  If you get the meter prism, don't ever mount the meter prism with a lens on
  the body. Remove the lens, then install the prism. The meter control in the
  body is a very fine and delicate chain, and it can be broken if you mount
  the prism with the chain held out of position.
  The meter is quite red sensitive, keep that in mind if you are using filters
  with BW film.
  All the lenses are very good, The SMC lenses should be better than the older
  Taks, but the Taks are, for the most part, superb. The Tak 75/4.5 is
  somewhat flare prone, but otherwise is very sharp and contrasty, The 45 is a
  gem, as is the 90 leaf, the 135 macro, both 165mm lenses (the 2.8 and the
  f/4LS), and the 200 tak and 300mm lenses are very good indeed, as well.
  All eight of the lenses I own for the 6x7 are superb. If you saw Cesar
  shooting 6x7 at GFM, odds are, you saw one or more of my lenses.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 
 Thanks, Bill.  Intended use is general photography (how vague is that?)
 and the occasional portrait.  More often than not I either have a 50mm
 lens on a 35mm body, or my zoom gets set at something close to 50.  I
 guess I'm just comfortable with that focal length.  As such, I was
 looking primarily at normal lenses.  I could probably get by with a
 150mm or 165mm lens to start, which would be fine for the portraiture
 thing.  I'll only have enough cash for one lens, so the 105 is looking
 rather attractive.

 TMAX isn't an issue for me as I prefer more traditional film.  Besides,
 it eats fixer.

 On the flip side, a 645 with two or three lenses and a spare magazine
 will cost about the same.  I'm just not sure I can live with sisterhood.

Why buy a nice steak and only eat half of it.

Get the 6x7.:-)

Try and sneak a stealth shot in a quiet church. You get some amazing looks.LOL

Dave

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote:

 I can't speak to the 67 body, I've held one, but not used one. I have used 
 the 6x7 for about 20 years though, and can speak to it.
 You will want an MLU body, non MLU bodies were only available for the first 
 couple of years of production, the MLU bodies had some internal 
 improvements.
 Later 6x7 bodies had improved film transport reliability.
 Original T-Max film was hell on 6x7 film transport. Check frame spacing for 
 evenness, if the frame spacing is uneven, the film transport needs work. Get 
 it adjusted before the frames start overlapping.
 If you get the meter prism, don't ever mount the meter prism with a lens on 
 the body. Remove the lens, then install the prism. The meter control in the 
 body is a very fine and delicate chain, and it can be broken if you mount 
 the prism with the chain held out of position.
 The meter is quite red sensitive, keep that in mind if you are using filters 
 with BW film.
 All the lenses are very good, The SMC lenses should be better than the older 
 Taks, but the Taks are, for the most part, superb. The Tak 75/4.5 is 
 somewhat flare prone, but otherwise is very sharp and contrasty, The 45 is a 
 gem, as is the 90 leaf, the 135 macro, both 165mm lenses (the 2.8 and the 
 f/4LS), and the 200 tak and 300mm lenses are very good indeed, as well.
 All eight of the lenses I own for the 6x7 are superb. If you saw Cesar 
 shooting 6x7 at GFM, odds are, you saw one or more of my lenses.

 William Robb 


   
Thanks, Bill.  Intended use is general photography (how vague is that?) 
and the occasional portrait.  More often than not I either have a 50mm 
lens on a 35mm body, or my zoom gets set at something close to 50.  I 
guess I'm just comfortable with that focal length.  As such, I was 
looking primarily at normal lenses.  I could probably get by with a 
150mm or 165mm lens to start, which would be fine for the portraiture 
thing.  I'll only have enough cash for one lens, so the 105 is looking 
rather attractive.

TMAX isn't an issue for me as I prefer more traditional film.  Besides, 
it eats fixer.

On the flip side, a 645 with two or three lenses and a spare magazine 
will cost about the same.  I'm just not sure I can live with sisterhood.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/28/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All eight of the lenses I own for the 6x7 are superb. If you saw Cesar
 shooting 6x7 at GFM, odds are, you saw one or more of my lenses.

I borrowed Cesar's 6x7 for an afternoon at GFM. I agree, that 45mm is
a wonderful lens. The 55 is very nice too (that one might have been
Cesar's lens? I don't remember...).

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
I know he liked my 200.:-)

Dave

On 8/28/07, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/28/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All eight of the lenses I own for the 6x7 are superb. If you saw Cesar
  shooting 6x7 at GFM, odds are, you saw one or more of my lenses.

 I borrowed Cesar's 6x7 for an afternoon at GFM. I agree, that 45mm is
 a wonderful lens. The 55 is very nice too (that one might have been
 Cesar's lens? I don't remember...).

 -Mat

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Mat Maessen wrote:
 On 8/28/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 All eight of the lenses I own for the 6x7 are superb. If you saw Cesar
 shooting 6x7 at GFM, odds are, you saw one or more of my lenses.
 

 I borrowed Cesar's 6x7 for an afternoon at GFM. I agree, that 45mm is
 a wonderful lens. The 55 is very nice too (that one might have been
 Cesar's lens? I don't remember...).

 -Mat

   
So did I, year before last.  It was just before we all left the mountain 
but I managed squeeze out a roll in the picnic area.  All hand held.  I 
used to have one or two of them online, but they're not now.  I'll have 
to dig them out and put them back up.

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
David J Brooks wrote:
 HI Scott.

 I have the 6x7 with mirror lock up, so i quess thats the more recent
 one of that set.

 Its heavy, but as proven by WW and Aaron Reynolds, can be handheld at
 slow speeds  with good results.

 I have the 90 f2.8 leaf lens and the Tak 200 F 4( i tyhink it is.)

 That 200 is the best lens i own other then the 77, and both take
 lovely pictures, nice a crisp.

 I always wanted to get a wider lens but never got around to getting one.

 Not sure about fixing them, but i';m sure there are people out there
 that can still work them.

 Brother Dave

   
Thanks, Dave.  Looks like Pentax Colorado is still listing the 6x7 with 
MLU and anything newer as serviceable. 

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Mat Maessen wrote:
 I still have camera-lust for a 6x7 or a 67. I'd be happy with one of
 the ones with mirror lockup, and a metered prism.

 -Mat

   
You don't need no stinking mirror lockup.


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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Loveless
David Savage wrote:

 The more experienced of the brethren will be better able to answer your 
 questions (I'm only a novice Brother :-)

 But I got this one:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/IMGP5720.jpg

 ...with MLU, metered prism and the SMC Takumar 105mm f2.4 last year

 I wish I had gotten the 55mm as my standard lens (had the option but I was 
 too cheap)

 Cheers,

 Dave 


   
Ooh.  That's pretty.  How do you like the 105?

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-27 Thread David Savage
At 09:58 AM 28/08/2007, Scott Loveless wrote:
Since I'm toying with the possibility of selling the K10, I'm also
considering where I'm going to sink the money.  One of my options is a
67 with one (count 'em, 1) lens.  I got a couple questions.  I recall
reading somewhere (probably this very list) that the 67 body is a better
option than a 6x7.  Newer, more likely to be repairable, etc.  Would
someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens
to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any
opinions?  Thanks!

The more experienced of the brethren will be better able to answer your 
questions (I'm only a novice Brother :-)

But I got this one:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/IMGP5720.jpg

...with MLU, metered prism and the SMC Takumar 105mm f2.4 last year

I wish I had gotten the 55mm as my standard lens (had the option but I was 
too cheap)

Cheers,

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Re: Help filling out the Brotherhood application

2007-08-27 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/27/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 someone mind confirming that for me?  Also, I'm looking at a normal lens
 to go with it.  SMC Takumar 105/2.4, SMC 105/2.4 or SMC 90/2.8?  Any
 opinions?  Thanks!

My opinion is that you should get a set of dumbbells to work up that
arm strength, and that the wooden grip is great, but it felt to me
like it should be on the other side of the camera.

I still have camera-lust for a 6x7 or a 67. I'd be happy with one of
the ones with mirror lockup, and a metered prism.

-Mat

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