Re: OT Mac question
On May 4, 2010, at 20:21 , John Francis wrote: On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 14:24 , David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT Mac question I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac. It seems to give you a lot of grief though. Sometimes, but not as much as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain. They don't make a drug strong enough to stop the pain of the PC. They do make some rather nice drugs that enhance the use of a Mac. And they dissolve so well in the Kool-Aid ... :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by unskilled workers!” — Martin G. Wolf, PhD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:28 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: OT Mac question My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Buy a PC. HAR!!! William Robb I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac. HAR Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 3/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Dave, in what application are you getting the pop-up? After logging onto the net. I deleted all of my . mac keychains last night. I'm not getting the pop up any more for the log in to idisk/barnyardcam, so it was looking for my mail service me thinks. Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and it goes away. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and I think you must have iDisk trying to connect as a startup procedure. You should be able to turn this off. System PrefsSystemAcountsYour accountLogin Items find the offending login item and ditch it! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and I think you must have iDisk trying to connect as a startup procedure. You should be able to turn this off. System PrefsSystemAcountsYour accountLogin Items find the offending login item and ditch it! Hum, only item in Login Items is iTunes helper or some such thing. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 2010-05-04 10:19 , Cotty wrote: On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Now i just get a pop up when the OS has finished loading asking for my password or iDisk will have to work off line. I hit cancel twice and I think you must have iDisk trying to connect as a startup procedure. You should be able to turn this off. try system prefs MobileMe iDisk Sync and click [Stop] or change update to Manually (if you have an iDisk, and just don't want it trying to sync at odd moments) (may be slightly different on other than 10.5.x) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Hum, only item in Login Items is iTunes helper or some such thing. That's probably it. I don't have that in my logins list - try blasting it. By that I mean click once on the item to select it, then hit the - (minus) sign at the bottom of the list. If you just check the 'hide' box it still runs but is hidden. You basically don't want it running at login -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
actually Dave, all iTunes Helper does is look for an iPod when one is attached, to automatically open iTunes for syncing. If you don't hook up an iPod or iPhone then ditch it anyway. If you do, then you can leave it or ditch it, if you ditch it and then hook up an iPod you'll have to open iTunes manually to sync. I do it that way anyway - can;t stand things opening automatically... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 2010-05-04 12:17 , Cotty wrote: On 4/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Hum, only item in Login Items is iTunes helper or some such thing. That's probably it. iTunes Helper launches iTunes when an iPod or iPhonish device is plugged in; i don't think it's the cause of the password dialogs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT Mac question I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac. It seems to give you a lot of grief though. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT Mac question I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac. It seems to give you a lot of grief though. Sometimes, but not as much as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain. Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 4/5/10, steve harley, discombobulated, unleashed: iTunes Helper launches iTunes when an iPod or iPhonish device is plugged in; i don't think it's the cause of the password dialogs I thought I said that ;-) er, *will* say that. email lists are like star trek with timelines and wormholes... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On May 4, 2010, at 14:24 , David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT Mac question I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac. It seems to give you a lot of grief though. Sometimes, but not as much as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain. They don't make a drug strong enough to stop the pain of the PC. They do make some rather nice drugs that enhance the use of a Mac. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:52:32PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 14:24 , David J Brooks wrote: On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:34 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT Mac question I have a PC. Thats why i use my Mac. It seems to give you a lot of grief though. Sometimes, but not as much as my PC. The Mac seems to have minor things, like what is happening now. My PC is a real pain. They don't make a drug strong enough to stop the pain of the PC. They do make some rather nice drugs that enhance the use of a Mac. And they dissolve so well in the Kool-Aid ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 3/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Dave, in what application are you getting the pop-up? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offq=+site:discussions.info.apple.com+%22mobile.me%22+log-in+pop-up+SOLVEDei=gxPfS_zQOJuONdbV-ekHsa=Xoi=forum_clusterresnum=2ct=more-resultsved=0CBcQrQIwAQ or http://tinyurl.com/2d9z22z Darren Addy Kearney, NE On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 3/5/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Dave, in what application are you getting the pop-up? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera. ~ Dorothea Lange 98% of all cameras and lenses are sharper than 99% of all photographers. ~ Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote: My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 3/5/10, Jeffery Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell. Aah, mobile me cloud syncing. I don't do it. When I first got the iPhone ages ago (2 iPhones back) and tried cloud syncing, I went to call someone and all my phone numbers were gone! Apparently there was a teething glitch at Apple and it took my (and presumably a lot of others') contacts off their iPhones. I got them all back later but it scared me enough to not trust the cloud - and I still don't. Any info I collect on my iPhone is synced with my MacBook for backup in iTunes as normal, but I only do it with a wire connected between the two and all cloud syncing switched off. The only thing I have from the cloud is one email address pushed to my iPhone, and even that is set so it goes to my MacBook as well. If I delete an email off my iPhone then it deletes from the MacBook as well, and vice versa. So sorry, can't answer any questions about cloud computing - eg 'mobile me' as I don't trust it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-05-03 14:01 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell. that's likely because you transfered settings from an old machine, including the old login keychain, with its old password; change the keychain password to match your current account password and it should stop (however if you can put up with the pop-ups, it is more secure the way you have it -- i intentionally have a different account password than my login keychain password, because that way access to my session doesn't automatically grant access to my keychain) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. On May 3, 2010, at 4:59 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-03 14:01 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell. that's likely because you transfered settings from an old machine, including the old login keychain, with its old password; change the keychain password to match your current account password and it should stop (however if you can put up with the pop-ups, it is more secure the way you have it -- i intentionally have a different account password than my login keychain password, because that way access to my session doesn't automatically grant access to my keychain) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
On 2010-05-03 16:13 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. well, if you haven't been able to open that keychain for a while, you've been doing okay without its contents, and could just reset it here is a detailed explanation and steps for this and related actions: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1060 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
Thanks much, Steve. I'll give it a shot. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 5:18 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-03 16:13 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. well, if you haven't been able to open that keychain for a while, you've been doing okay without its contents, and could just reset it here is a detailed explanation and steps for this and related actions: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1060 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I just went in and deleted my .mac passwords from the keychain. Time will tell. Dave On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:18 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-05-03 16:13 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. well, if you haven't been able to open that keychain for a while, you've been doing okay without its contents, and could just reset it here is a detailed explanation and steps for this and related actions: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1060 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: OT Mac question My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Buy a PC. HAR!!! William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 16/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave, when was the last time you repaired Disk Permissions? This should be done about once a month. Do you just close the lid when not in use (sleep) ? When's the last time you actually shut down? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave, when was the last time you repaired Disk Permissions? Tuesday morning. This should be done about once a month. I try for once a month, and usually do.:-) Do you just close the lid when not in use (sleep) ? When's the last time you actually shut down? After every use, it is only in sleep mode only if i close the lid to fast and forget to check for fire vault actions. Thats if your talking about the computer. For me, i close my lids every night around 8:30.:-) Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
On Jul 17, 2008, at 12:26 AM, Cotty wrote: Dave, when was the last time you repaired Disk Permissions? This should be done about once a month. Do you just close the lid when not in use (sleep) ? When's the last time you actually shut down? It's not strictly necessary, Cotty. I check disk permissions occasionally and turn my laptop off now and then, but it mostly lives in use or in Sleep mode, and I check permissions now and then but not on a regular basis. I haven't had any problems with the current laptop or with the previous one doing this, over the seven year span since Mac OS X has been the primary operating system. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 17/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Do you just close the lid when not in use (sleep) ? When's the last time you actually shut down? After every use, it is only in sleep mode only if i close the lid to fast and forget to check for fire vault actions. No need to - Macs sleep very well. I tend not to shut my MBP down at all, sleeps every night. Only shut it down if there's a problem - happened about three times since purchase, 9 months ago. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 17/7/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: It's not strictly necessary, Cotty. I check disk permissions occasionally and turn my laptop off now and then, but it mostly lives in use or in Sleep mode, and I check permissions now and then but not on a regular basis. I haven't had any problems with the current laptop or with the previous one doing this, over the seven year span since Mac OS X has been the primary operating system. Understood. My MacBook Pro [and previously my Pismo] only sleeps unless a rare kernel panic arises. I was told repairing disk permissions should be commensurate with use. My MBP is used daily between 1 and 6 hours, mostly around 2. Just updated my first gen iPhone to 2.0, and now syncs automatically with the MBP via 'the cloud' - very cool. Trying for a 3G but easier to milk a hen. Should have one by Aug. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying for a 3G but easier to milk a hen. Should have one by Aug. I'll bring one next GFM, this i have to see. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Cotty wrote: I was told repairing disk permissions should be commensurate with use. My MBP is used daily between 1 and 6 hours, mostly around 2. I've been tracking the accumulation of permissions repairs for a couple of years. It seems that two or three specific files, mostly having to do with iTunes security components, are the most prone to require a minor repair. Nothing else has required any repair after the first permissions repair was performed since I installed Mac OS X Tiger on this G5 tower, or on my PowerBook G4 for Tiger through Leopard. The G5 is used daily for many hours. The PB a bit less. Just updated my first gen iPhone to 2.0, and now syncs automatically with the MBP via 'the cloud' - very cool. Trying for a 3G but easier to milk a hen. Should have one by Aug. LOL I passed by the Apple Store in Palo Alto this morning about two minutes after opening. There was a line that went two whole city blocks long. I updated the iPod Touch to v2 ... same deal. I notice that the Mail application is significantly snappier now, in particular. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cut the bs. Launching off into some idiotic tirade based on prejudice, superstition and myth is all you're doing. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:36 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually, it's a descendant of NeXTSTEP with one single cosmetic feature of the old Mac OS (the menu bar) added and a bunch of UNIX userland grafted on the side. It really doesn't run on top of UNIX at all, the GUI runs directly on top of the MACH-based kernel, and uses a different set of API's than the Unix userland which runs beside it, nor does it particularly resemble the classic Mac OS. The only real Unixism that the GUI subscribes to is the filesystem, which it interacts with via some Unix API's. Oh, and root permissions to the filesystem are granted via sudo, OS X always asks for them, it never decides on its own to grant a user root permissions (which btw is rarely needed apart from doing system maintenance or installing drivers, unlike in Windows which typically requires Admin priviledges to install software). -Adam On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:36 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey and PJ - Between the two of you, I'm sure Dave has it all figured out by now. Dave - I don't know Mac from Nikon, but Google is my friend. Found this. Perhaps it will help. 1) Open System Preferences and choose the .Mac preference pane 2) Choose iDisk and press Stop near the bottom where it says, iDisk Sync: On You'll end up with an image file on your desktop which contains the local copy of your iDisk 3) Rename this file (I don't know if this is necessary--I did it as a precaution) 4) Go back to System Preferences and turn iDisk Sync back on, choosing Manually for the update method 5) Right-click on the iDisk icon on your desktop and choose Sync Now 6) After the sync, turn automatic sync back on 7) If all goes well, you can delete the image file created in step 2 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Cut the bs. Launching off into some idiotic tirade based on prejudice, superstition and myth is all you're doing. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:36 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Without knowing the specifics off the top of my head, it sounds like the ownership and permissions for that file have to be reset. If you do a get info on it, you should be able to reset the owner and permissions with an administrator password and then delete it. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:06 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It always amazes me how Godfry takes these things a personal attacks, you'd think I questioned the one true religion... Scott Loveless wrote: Godfrey and PJ - Between the two of you, I'm sure Dave has it all figured out by now. Dave - I don't know Mac from Nikon, but Google is my friend. Found this. Perhaps it will help. 1) Open System Preferences and choose the .Mac preference pane 2) Choose iDisk and press Stop near the bottom where it says, iDisk Sync: On You'll end up with an image file on your desktop which contains the local copy of your iDisk 3) Rename this file (I don't know if this is necessary--I did it as a precaution) 4) Go back to System Preferences and turn iDisk Sync back on, choosing Manually for the update method 5) Right-click on the iDisk icon on your desktop and choose Sync Now 6) After the sync, turn automatic sync back on 7) If all goes well, you can delete the image file created in step 2 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Cut the bs. Launching off into some idiotic tirade based on prejudice, superstition and myth is all you're doing. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:36 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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it's simply that I'm tired of hearing stupidity promulgated as fact from no nothing jerks: a: You don't know what you're talking about, at all, when it comes to Mac OS X and have nothing but your prejudiced opinions to offer. b: you didn't attempt to assist dave in understanding his system's problem. You just spread inaccurate opinion. That's what annoys me. I don't give a crap in hell about your opinions ... I know they're stupid misinformation. G On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:42 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: It always amazes me how Godfry takes these things a personal attacks, you'd think I questioned the one true religion... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't want to say Adam is wrong, so I won't, maybe they've found ways around that. However the MACH Kernel is based on BSD Unix, it's not like it's an entirely different animal. Adam Maas wrote: Actually, it's a descendant of NeXTSTEP with one single cosmetic feature of the old Mac OS (the menu bar) added and a bunch of UNIX userland grafted on the side. It really doesn't run on top of UNIX at all, the GUI runs directly on top of the MACH-based kernel, and uses a different set of API's than the Unix userland which runs beside it, nor does it particularly resemble the classic Mac OS. The only real Unixism that the GUI subscribes to is the filesystem, which it interacts with via some Unix API's. Oh, and root permissions to the filesystem are granted via sudo, OS X always asks for them, it never decides on its own to grant a user root permissions (which btw is rarely needed apart from doing system maintenance or installing drivers, unlike in Windows which typically requires Admin priviledges to install software). -Adam On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:36 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling wrote: I don't want to say Adam is wrong, so I won't, maybe they've found ways around that. However the MACH Kernel is based on BSD Unix, it's not like it's an entirely different animal. Yes, the MACH kernel _is_ an entirely different animal, actually. MACH is a microkernel OS developed at CMU. There was always a BSD emulation layer that enables all BSD/UNIX code to be compilable for it easily. That's been enhanced by Apple with Linux libraries as well so almost anything from Linux/BSD can be made to run on Mac OS X. So the system /looks/ like BSD UNIX for all intents and purposes when you login to a terminal. The disk layout is pretty standard Posix-like stuff, and apps enjoy a BSD experience. However, it ain't UNIX underneath. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_%28kernel%29 -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Again you show your ignorance. The BSD UNIX presentation and service layers in a UNIX operating system rests on top of a kernel, not the other way around. You certainly can't derive a kernel from it. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:17 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I don't want to say Adam is wrong, so I won't, maybe they've found ways around that. However the MACH Kernel is based on BSD Unix, it's not like it's an entirely different animal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Dave I can offer no assistance with you problems (and it look like no one ekse can either :-) However given some of the replies I just want to say: God please save us from all computer geeks. (Why do they all assume that everyone knows, can understand, what they know?) Cheers, Dave 2008/7/16 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Savage wrote: Dave I can offer no assistance with you problems (and it look like no one ekse can either :-) However given some of the replies I just want to say: God please save us from all computer geeks. (Why do they all assume that everyone knows, can understand, what they know?) They don't. It's a smokescreen for the I know something you don't know mindset. The second worst offenders are the know-it-alls who call tech support lines. The worst are the know-it-alls answering tech support lines. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2008/7/16 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You certainly can't derive a kernel from it. I like fresh sweet corn. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:01 AM, David Savage wrote: Dave I can offer no assistance with you problems (and it look like no one ekse can either :-) I don't know what bs you're referring to, but I suggested to Dave a way to fix the problem that works. So did someone else. That means that two people have offered helpful responses. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Um, no. Mach is a micro-kernel, BSD uses a monolithic kernel, they aren't at all related even though Mach was originally intended to replace the BSD kernel (which never happened). Mach is in fact entirely platform agnostic (Windows NT's kernel is in fact based on a Mach-inspired hybrid kernel). Apple (NeXT Inc really, as this predates Apple's acquisition by a decade or so) implemented a BSD kernel emulator on top of Mach to allow for a BSD userspace to run beside the NeXTSTEP GUI which OS X's GUI evolved from. Mach is very platform-agnostic, it doesn't proved full kernel services, just the core of a kernel, so you need a second layer on top of it to provide the API for drivers and userland. -Adam On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:17 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to say Adam is wrong, so I won't, maybe they've found ways around that. However the MACH Kernel is based on BSD Unix, it's not like it's an entirely different animal. Adam Maas wrote: Actually, it's a descendant of NeXTSTEP with one single cosmetic feature of the old Mac OS (the menu bar) added and a bunch of UNIX userland grafted on the side. It really doesn't run on top of UNIX at all, the GUI runs directly on top of the MACH-based kernel, and uses a different set of API's than the Unix userland which runs beside it, nor does it particularly resemble the classic Mac OS. The only real Unixism that the GUI subscribes to is the filesystem, which it interacts with via some Unix API's. Oh, and root permissions to the filesystem are granted via sudo, OS X always asks for them, it never decides on its own to grant a user root permissions (which btw is rarely needed apart from doing system maintenance or installing drivers, unlike in Windows which typically requires Admin priviledges to install software). -Adam On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:36 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then this will be even more confusing. The current MAC OS is a graphical user interface that resembles the original MAC OS built on a version of UNIX. To do a lot of useful things you have to have root privileges, (i.e. permission to do everything). However giving that kind of permission is a recipe for disaster, as well as very bad from a security standpoint. To make the user experience a bit less tiresome and more seamless the MAC OS makes assumptions about when to grant these privileges and when to revoke them. Sometimes it's just wrong. The result can be mysterious and or annoying messages. David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think that the unexplained happens when you build a GUI for everyman on top of UNIX. This appears to be proof... You've lost me already. Dave David J Brooks wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Thanks Godfrey and Scott. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without knowing the specifics off the top of my head, it sounds like the ownership and permissions for that file have to be reset. If you do a get info on it, you should be able to reset the owner and permissions with an administrator password and then delete it. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:06 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Hummm, now i seem to have no access to idisk. I don't have a .mac account. However i do, its paid up till Dec this year. I was able to access this, the idisk on Monday, now i cannpt. I also cannot seem to get dotmac to load up to sign in, but i see a note from Apple in my mail, that some new thing, watchme or something like that is now up and running although glitchy. Maybe this is my snag. Dam if i'm paying for an upgrade for something i already have or at least had. Dave On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Godfrey and Scott. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without knowing the specifics off the top of my head, it sounds like the ownership and permissions for that file have to be reset. If you do a get info on it, you should be able to reset the owner and permissions with an administrator password and then delete it. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:06 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Try www.me.com it's what dotmac has become. -Adam On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:18 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hummm, now i seem to have no access to idisk. I don't have a .mac account. However i do, its paid up till Dec this year. I was able to access this, the idisk on Monday, now i cannpt. I also cannot seem to get dotmac to load up to sign in, but i see a note from Apple in my mail, that some new thing, watchme or something like that is now up and running although glitchy. Maybe this is my snag. Dam if i'm paying for an upgrade for something i already have or at least had. Dave On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Godfrey and Scott. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without knowing the specifics off the top of my head, it sounds like the ownership and permissions for that file have to be reset. If you do a get info on it, you should be able to reset the owner and permissions with an administrator password and then delete it. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:06 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Apple has changed/upgraded/renamed the .Mac service to a new offering named MobileMe ... http://www.apple.com/mobileme/ The primary difference between .Mac and MobileMe is that the latter now supports dynamic push synchronization between subscribed Mac OS X, Windows and iPhone/iPod Touch systems. I'm sure there are other differences too, but that's the big one far as I'm concerned. (Edit an address on your iPhone and it should be reflected on the other systems almost immediately, and vice versa). That should have little or nothing to do with your file problem, but it's always possible. The changeover was a bit rough, from what my buddy on that team says, and there are glitches. Apple has extended all .Mac customers' accounts with an extra month's free service to compensate for the inconveniences. If you run Software Update (from the System Prefs panel) you might find an update for your system specifically to prepare it for the updated service. If you continue to have problems with your service, call Apple support or stop by an Apple Retail Store with your laptop. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2008, at 1:18 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Hummm, now i seem to have no access to idisk. I don't have a .mac account. However i do, its paid up till Dec this year. I was able to access this, the idisk on Monday, now i cannpt. I also cannot seem to get dotmac to load up to sign in, but i see a note from Apple in my mail, that some new thing, watchme or something like that is now up and running although glitchy. Maybe this is my snag. Dam if i'm paying for an upgrade for something i already have or at least had. Dave On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Godfrey and Scott. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without knowing the specifics off the top of my head, it sounds like the ownership and permissions for that file have to be reset. If you do a get info on it, you should be able to reset the owner and permissions with an administrator password and then delete it. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:06 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday i noticed i had lost about 5 gig of space, and i decided to trash the trash. That seemed to bring it back the last time. Now, every time i log on to the computer, i get a pop up screen saying You do not have permission to delete file-about your idisk.rtf. Also the same day, i had a screen pop up to say i needed more space added for my idisk. Could this be were my 5 gig went and why i am getting this new message.?? No big deal, i just close the pop up screen, more just curious. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be They don't. It's a smokescreen for the I know something you don't know mindset. The second worst offenders are the know-it-alls who call tech support lines. The worst are the know-it-alls answering tech support lines. I called tech support one day because I was unable to connect to the net. They started suggesting things, and everything they suggested i replied tried that, didn't work. The tech eventually asked me (rather snottily, I might add) why I had called, since I obviously knew more about it that he did, and I said because my internet access was down, and I wanted it fixed. Eventually, I got him to ping my modem and we discovered that while it was making the correct dancing lights happen, it was not actually transmitting requests. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question for the collective, small that it may be
Actually I looked it up on a different site. The MACK Kernel was designed to be a drop in replacement Kernel for BSD with the usual UNIX services moved out to other programs. But I'm beginning to believe that it's kind of what your definition of UNIX is. This is a bit more complicated than I at first believed. http://wapedia.mobi/en/Mach_kernel Bruce Walker wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I don't want to say Adam is wrong, so I won't, maybe they've found ways around that. However the MACH Kernel is based on BSD Unix, it's not like it's an entirely different animal. Yes, the MACH kernel _is_ an entirely different animal, actually. MACH is a microkernel OS developed at CMU. There was always a BSD emulation layer that enables all BSD/UNIX code to be compilable for it easily. That's been enhanced by Apple with Linux libraries as well so almost anything from Linux/BSD can be made to run on Mac OS X. So the system /looks/ like BSD UNIX for all intents and purposes when you login to a terminal. The disk layout is pretty standard Posix-like stuff, and apps enjoy a BSD experience. However, it ain't UNIX underneath. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_%28kernel%29 -bmw -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
