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On 13/7/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Boris, I had no idea your situation was close enough for the rockets to affect you. Stay safe. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a very effective description of what you are going through - really makes it clear how different situations are for different people on the list. I hope you and you family remain safe throughout this situation. Mark On 7/12/2014 11:49 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So glad you checked-in, Boris. I have been thinking about you and your family! Stay safe! Best from both Darrel me! Christine On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Peter, it is a matter of finding a way to persuade. Persuasion may be very indirect. I much rather I did not even have to think of these things, because they are far beyond realm of my knowledge. On 7/14/2014 6:59 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: There are really two kinds of people in the world, those who think you can negotiate with groups who have non-negotiable demands, and those who know better. On 7/13/2014 11:38 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: They most certainly don't. It is in their charter. I mean, it is a well known fact. For them, nothing is equivalent to a negotiated settlement, and neither of these is an option. Thank you for your kind words, Jack! On 7/13/2014 9:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Well said, Frank. Difficult to imagine, but it may be that Hamas doesn't want a negotiated settlement. IOW, it's all or nothing. My hope for your safety, Boris, and that of your family. J - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:01:11 AM Subject: Re: Today morning, just recently From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Mark! I really appreciate your kind words. Boris On 7/14/2014 3:10 PM, Mark C wrote: That's a very effective description of what you are going through - really makes it clear how different situations are for different people on the list. I hope you and you family remain safe throughout this situation. Mark On 7/12/2014 11:49 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Cotty! We're most certainly trying to stay safe... Boris On 7/14/2014 2:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 13/7/14, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Boris, I had no idea your situation was close enough for the rockets to affect you. Stay safe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks! My regards to Darrel. A pity really, I did not have a chance to converse with you and him in any meaningful length. Yet! :-) Boris On 7/14/2014 6:47 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: So glad you checked-in, Boris. I have been thinking about you and your family! Stay safe! Best from both Darrel me! Christine On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Amen...Well said, Bob. -p On 7/13/2014 8:09 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's funny because I was looking for you on facebook the other day Boris. I also completely forget that you live in Tel Aviv. You have more friends than you might think. Glad you are still ok. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Paul! On 7/13/2014 6:47 PM, Paul wrote: Amen...Well said, Bob. -p On 7/13/2014 8:09 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Bob. We're having difficult times indeed. All of us, on both sides of this fence... I only hope that one day the world will open its eyes and see... Meanwhile, how to put it, the results are mixed... I would wish to everyone involved in this conflict to recognize fellow human beings in the other party. It proves to be increasingly difficult task. With great respect! Boris On 7/13/2014 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Are you sure? Zos, I don't have FB acct and never had... More than that, I don't intend to open one, though one can never know what would happen next. We live just south of Tel Aviv and presently it is well inside the fire zone... In fact, Tel Aviv is also well inside the fire zone, though IDF is trying very hard to reverse this status. I appreciate your care. I most certainly and most sincerely do. On 7/13/2014 6:55 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: That's funny because I was looking for you on facebook the other day Boris. I also completely forget that you live in Tel Aviv. You have more friends than you might think. Glad you are still ok. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris - I think many people don't know where others on the list actually live.. Certainly have thought about you - but thought you were someplace that wasn't in the line of fire - so much for my geography skills. I don't watch the news anymore - just weather channel - ann On 7/13/2014 12:56, Boris Liberman wrote: Thank you, Bob. We're having difficult times indeed. All of us, on both sides of this fence... I only hope that one day the world will open its eyes and see... Meanwhile, how to put it, the results are mixed... I would wish to everyone involved in this conflict to recognize fellow human beings in the other party. It proves to be increasingly difficult task. With great respect! Boris On 7/13/2014 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, I think of you every time I hear of yet another escalation in Israel. The last time we spoke of this off list (several years ago) Hamas rockets didn't have the range to reach your area. Please stay safe. My thoughts to you and your family. Cheers, frank On 12 July, 2014 11:49:10 PM EDT, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, Ann, it has nothing to do with geography. It is merely a progress of Gazans in terms of rocketry... Previously their rockets couldn't fly as far, not they fly twice as far, all the way to Haifa. Though to get to Haifa they will need to strain themselves a bit. Thank you for your kind words... Boris On 7/13/2014 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Boris - I think many people don't know where others on the list actually live.. Certainly have thought about you - but thought you were someplace that wasn't in the line of fire - so much for my geography skills. I don't watch the news anymore - just weather channel - ann On 7/13/2014 12:56, Boris Liberman wrote: Thank you, Bob. We're having difficult times indeed. All of us, on both sides of this fence... I only hope that one day the world will open its eyes and see... Meanwhile, how to put it, the results are mixed... I would wish to everyone involved in this conflict to recognize fellow human beings in the other party. It proves to be increasingly difficult task. With great respect! Boris On 7/13/2014 4:09 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Frank! On 7/13/2014 8:49 PM, knarf wrote: Boris, I think of you every time I hear of yet another escalation in Israel. The last time we spoke of this off list (several years ago) Hamas rockets didn't have the range to reach your area. Please stay safe. My thoughts to you and your family. Cheers, frank On 12 July, 2014 11:49:10 PM EDT, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Please, let us absolutely not engage on this kind of discussions on the list. There are very good people who are suffering from both sides of the fence. Let us honor them but not trying to establish who is right and who is wrong, because both parties are both right and wrong. On 7/13/2014 9:01 PM, knarf wrote: From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well said, Frank. Difficult to imagine, but it may be that Hamas doesn't want a negotiated settlement. IOW, it's all or nothing. My hope for your safety, Boris, and that of your family. J - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:01:11 AM Subject: Re: Today morning, just recently From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You have expanded upon what I was trying to say most eloquently, Boris. Finger-pointing is not what I intended; quite the opposite. I believe that most civilians on both sides of this divide only want peace, safety and security. Of course you, living in the midst of the tumult, have a unique first-hand perspective on what's happening. Of course being a friend, my personal concern is the safety of you and yours. Stay safe and take care. All the best, frank On 13 July, 2014 2:35:27 PM EDT, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Please, let us absolutely not engage on this kind of discussions on the list. There are very good people who are suffering from both sides of the fence. Let us honor them but not trying to establish who is right and who is wrong, because both parties are both right and wrong. On 7/13/2014 9:01 PM, knarf wrote: From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry to hear about your predicament, Boris. Thanks for taking the time to inform. The current bombardment has reached the news up here, but news don't travel very well into my brain when on vacation. I've spent the last week at the cabin; the one you've been to. Stay well. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 13. juli 2014 05:49 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Today morning, just recently Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dear Boris, I am aware of the situation. I thought about you and your family. I just happen to visit my computer less frequently these days. Although, of different sort and uncomparable to yours, my country seems to be on the verge of some serious disorder. I just fail to find a proper way to express myself... Remaining calm was something I thought I was good at until this age. It may not be any longer. I hate watching this building up of anger... everywhere. Hope you all do well and hope we shall see a better world soon... Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2014-07-13 6:49 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They most certainly don't. It is in their charter. I mean, it is a well known fact. For them, nothing is equivalent to a negotiated settlement, and neither of these is an option. Thank you for your kind words, Jack! On 7/13/2014 9:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Well said, Frank. Difficult to imagine, but it may be that Hamas doesn't want a negotiated settlement. IOW, it's all or nothing. My hope for your safety, Boris, and that of your family. J - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:01:11 AM Subject: Re: Today morning, just recently From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, I remember those good days. How's your move progressing? Now, it comes together to me. You won't be too far away from the cabin even after you move! Thank you for your care, Jostein! On 7/13/2014 10:38 PM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne wrote: Sorry to hear about your predicament, Boris. Thanks for taking the time to inform. The current bombardment has reached the news up here, but news don't travel very well into my brain when on vacation. I've spent the last week at the cabin; the one you've been to. Stay well. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Boris Liberman Dato: 13. juli 2014 05:49 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Today morning, just recently Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Bulent. It seems that the Middle East as a whole is moving in the very wrong direction. So, each country gets its own share of trouble. Not that I like it any way. I am thinking of you more often that you might imagine. Boris On 7/13/2014 11:00 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: Dear Boris, I am aware of the situation. I thought about you and your family. I just happen to visit my computer less frequently these days. Although, of different sort and uncomparable to yours, my country seems to be on the verge of some serious disorder. I just fail to find a proper way to express myself... Remaining calm was something I thought I was good at until this age. It may not be any longer. I hate watching this building up of anger... everywhere. Hope you all do well and hope we shall see a better world soon... Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2014-07-13 6:49 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are really two kinds of people in the world, those who think you can negotiate with groups who have non-negotiable demands, and those who know better. On 7/13/2014 11:38 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: They most certainly don't. It is in their charter. I mean, it is a well known fact. For them, nothing is equivalent to a negotiated settlement, and neither of these is an option. Thank you for your kind words, Jack! On 7/13/2014 9:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Well said, Frank. Difficult to imagine, but it may be that Hamas doesn't want a negotiated settlement. IOW, it's all or nothing. My hope for your safety, Boris, and that of your family. J - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:01:11 AM Subject: Re: Today morning, just recently From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply controlling Hamas (even if that were possible). My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like. There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal. HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and seems bound to be ineffectual or worse. Here's what I know: Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world opinion and sympathy. The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed elsewhere. As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest escalation started. Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions. Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue. Regards, frank On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, We think of you and your family every day. We hope for your continued safety. We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.' I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls. I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the rocket launchers. Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death will be visited upon them. I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind their neighbors. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hello. Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very first one. * 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to linger in bed a bit longer. * 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine * 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the kids and heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we have 90 seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my yesterday's t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that everyone in our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the first and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above the ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day. * 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work. Anat is counting. * 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were sitting on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to sitting on the floor. * 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors around us start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few minutes later we return home to start our day. Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has started. Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the list. Frankly, your silence is deafening... Carry on. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
