Re: [HACKERS] TODO links broken?

2013-04-17 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Stephen Scheck
singularsyn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many of the links in the TODO wiki page result in a page not found error.
 Is this page up-to-date?
 Can anything be inferred about the status of these items from the broken
 link?

I think what we can infer is that the new archives code is broken.  I
hope someone is planning to fix that.  If there's been some decision
made that we don't have to support the historical URLs for our
archives pages, I think that's a really bad plan; those links are in a
lot more places than just the Todo.

As for your actual question, the TODO list is an accumulation of items
that someone, sometime over the last ten years, thought would be
valuable to work on, and nobody objected too strenuously to the idea.
The fact that it's in the TODO list doesn't mean that anyone is
working on it now, that anyone will ever work on it, or that people
would still think it was a good idea if it were re-proposed today.
It's just kind of a list to jump start people's thinking, and
shouldn't be taken as particularly official.

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Re: [HACKERS] TODO links broken?

2013-04-17 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Stephen Scheck
 singularsyn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many of the links in the TODO wiki page result in a page not found error.
 Is this page up-to-date?
 Can anything be inferred about the status of these items from the broken
 link?

 I think what we can infer is that the new archives code is broken.  I
 hope someone is planning to fix that.  If there's been some decision

Yes. We can infer that. It makes it a whole lot easier to fix
something with better bug repors than that, of course, as I'm sure you
(Robert in this case, not Stephen) are generally aware of.

I've reverted a patch that was applied a few days ago that dealt with
how URLs are parsed, and I think that's the one that's responsible.
But it would be good to have an actual example of what didn't work,
because the links i tried all worked...

 made that we don't have to support the historical URLs for our
 archives pages, I think that's a really bad plan; those links are in a
 lot more places than just the Todo.

No, the plan has always been to support those. There are no plans to
remove that.

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Re: [HACKERS] TODO links broken?

2013-04-17 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote:
 Yes. We can infer that. It makes it a whole lot easier to fix
 something with better bug repors than that, of course, as I'm sure you
 (Robert in this case, not Stephen) are generally aware of.

 I've reverted a patch that was applied a few days ago that dealt with
 how URLs are parsed, and I think that's the one that's responsible.
 But it would be good to have an actual example of what didn't work,
 because the links i tried all worked...

Hmm.  Sorry for the lack of detail.  I assumed the problem was obvious
and widespread because I clicked on the first link I saw in the Todo
and it didn't work.  But after clicking a bunch more links from the
Todo, I only found three that fail.

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2008-12/msg01340.php
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-03/msg01831.php
http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/4B577E9F.8000505%40dunslane.net/

That last one works if I change %40 to @, so that one might be a wiki
problem rather than an archives problem.  In fact, for all I know the
other two might have been broken all along too; I'm just assuming they
used to work.

Sorry for going overboard,

...Robert


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Re: [HACKERS] TODO links broken?

2013-04-17 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote:
 Yes. We can infer that. It makes it a whole lot easier to fix
 something with better bug repors than that, of course, as I'm sure you
 (Robert in this case, not Stephen) are generally aware of.

 I've reverted a patch that was applied a few days ago that dealt with
 how URLs are parsed, and I think that's the one that's responsible.
 But it would be good to have an actual example of what didn't work,
 because the links i tried all worked...

 Hmm.  Sorry for the lack of detail.  I assumed the problem was obvious
 and widespread because I clicked on the first link I saw in the Todo
 and it didn't work.  But after clicking a bunch more links from the
 Todo, I only found three that fail.

 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2008-12/msg01340.php
 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-03/msg01831.php


Works now, so that seems to have been fixed by the reverting of the
patch. It might be a while before they all recover due to caching
issues, but both of these work now for me, which seems to indcate the
fix is the right one.


 http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/4B577E9F.8000505%40dunslane.net/

It works with %40 for me now, so it might have been related - can you
check if it is still an issue for you? It might be different in
different browsers.

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Re: [HACKERS] TODO links broken?

2013-04-17 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote:
 Hmm.  Sorry for the lack of detail.  I assumed the problem was obvious
 and widespread because I clicked on the first link I saw in the Todo
 and it didn't work.  But after clicking a bunch more links from the
 Todo, I only found three that fail.

 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2008-12/msg01340.php
 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-03/msg01831.php

 Works now, so that seems to have been fixed by the reverting of the
 patch. It might be a while before they all recover due to caching
 issues, but both of these work now for me, which seems to indcate the
 fix is the right one.

 http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/4B577E9F.8000505%40dunslane.net/

 It works with %40 for me now, so it might have been related - can you
 check if it is still an issue for you? It might be different in
 different browsers.

Yeah, it seems OK now.  Thanks for the quick response.

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[HACKERS] TODO links broken?

2013-04-16 Thread Stephen Scheck
Hello,

Many of the links in the TODO wiki page result in a page not found error.
Is this page up-to-date?
Can anything be inferred about the status of these items from the broken
link?

Thanks.

http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo