php-general Digest 19 Aug 2013 06:07:22 -0000 Issue 8335
php-general Digest 19 Aug 2013 06:07:22 - Issue 8335 Topics (messages 321856 through 321860): Re: Finally 321856 by: Daniel how old is this version of PHP? 321857 by: Tamara Temple 321858 by: Camilo Sperberg 321859 by: Tamara Temple 321860 by: Larry Garfield Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- Yay, Thankyou :) Regards, Daniel Fenn On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On 13-08-16 11:58 AM, Marc Guay wrote: Those Belgacom emails were the only thing keeping me from a crushing loneliness - undo! *sniffle* Another friend bites the dust *sniffle*. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Looking into a problem for someone who is using Godaddy Shared Web Hosting (I know..), I noticed the version tag reported by phpinfo is: PHP API 20041225 PHP Extension 20060613 Zend Extension 220060519 Just how old is this version of PHP?? ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On 16 aug. 2013, at 19:17, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: Looking into a problem for someone who is using Godaddy Shared Web Hosting (I know..), I noticed the version tag reported by phpinfo is: PHP API 20041225 PHP Extension 20060613 Zend Extension220060519 Just how old is this version of PHP?? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php According to my google search, it should be 5.2.9, so it isn't that old: http://devzone.zend.com/1442/compiling-php-extensions-with-zend-server/ CD onto the extension's source dir (in our example, the PHP version is 5.2.9 as it is the current stable version Zend Server is shipped with): $ cd /usr/local/zend/share/php-source/php-5.2.9/ext/pspell Run phpize: $ /usr/local/zend/bin/phpize Output should be similar to this: /Configuring for: PHP Api Version: 20041225 Zend Module Api No: 20060613 Zend Extension Api No: 220060519/ Greetings. Met vriendelijke groet, Camilo Sperberg W: http://unreal4u.com T: http://twitter.com/unreal4u ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Aug 17, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Camilo Sperberg unrea...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 aug. 2013, at 19:17, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: Looking into a problem for someone who is using Godaddy Shared Web Hosting (I know..), I noticed the version tag reported by phpinfo is: PHP API 20041225 PHP Extension20060613 Zend Extension 220060519 Just how old is this version of PHP?? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php According to my google search, it should be 5.2.9, so it isn't that old: http://devzone.zend.com/1442/compiling-php-extensions-with-zend-server/ CD onto the extension's source dir (in our example, the PHP version is 5.2.9 as it is the current stable version Zend Server is shipped with): $ cd /usr/local/zend/share/php-source/php-5.2.9/ext/pspell Run phpize: $ /usr/local/zend/bin/phpize Output should be similar to this: /Configuring for: PHP Api Version: 20041225 Zend Module Api No: 20060613 Zend Extension Api No: 220060519/ That would be neat if there was any shell access. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On 08/17/2013 06:26 PM, Camilo Sperberg wrote: On 16 aug. 2013, at 19:17, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: Looking into a problem for someone who is using Godaddy Shared Web Hosting (I know..), I noticed the version tag reported by phpinfo is: PHP API 20041225 PHP Extension 20060613 Zend Extension 220060519 Just how old is this version of PHP?? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php According to my google search, it should be 5.2.9, so it isn't that old: 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by
php-general Digest 19 Aug 2013 18:32:01 -0000 Issue 8336
php-general Digest 19 Aug 2013 18:32:01 - Issue 8336 Topics (messages 321861 through 321879): How can I submit more than 2000 items of data? 321861 by: aesbovis 321862 by: Mihai Anghel 321863 by: Szopen Xiao 321864 by: Jan Ehrhardt 321866 by: aesbovis 321867 by: aesbovis 321868 by: Stuart Dallas 321873 by: Matijn Woudt 321874 by: Stuart Dallas 321875 by: Matijn Woudt 321876 by: Stuart Dallas 321877 by: Tedd Sperling Re: how old is this version of PHP? 321865 by: Thomas Punt 321869 by: Lester Caine 321870 by: Jeff Burcher 321871 by: Sebastian Krebs 321872 by: Lester Caine 321878 by: Larry Garfield Mysqli Extension 321879 by: Ethan Rosenberg Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-subscr...@lists.php.net To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: php-general-digest-unsubscr...@lists.php.net To post to the list, e-mail: php-gene...@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Check this http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.post-max-size On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- you can use JSON post 2013/8/19 aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Mihai Anghel in php.general (Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:30:01 +0300): Check this http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.post-max-size Keyword: max_input_vars. Jan ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- T hank you, it works now. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Jan Ehrhardt php...@ehrhardt.nl wrote: Mihai Anghel in php.general (Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:30:01 +0300): Check this http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.post-max-size Keyword: max_input_vars. Jan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Szopen Xiao chopins.x...@gmail.com wrote: you can use JSON post 2013/8/19 aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart -- Stuart Dallas 3ft9 Ltd http://3ft9.com/ On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Szopen Xiao chopins.x...@gmail.com wrote: you can use JSON post 2013/8/19 aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript? ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:56, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stuart
Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
On 08/17/2013 06:26 PM, Camilo Sperberg wrote: On 16 aug. 2013, at 19:17, Tamara Temple tamouse.li...@gmail.com wrote: Looking into a problem for someone who is using Godaddy Shared Web Hosting (I know..), I noticed the version tag reported by phpinfo is: PHP API 20041225 PHP Extension 20060613 Zend Extension 220060519 Just how old is this version of PHP?? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php According to my google search, it should be 5.2.9, so it isn't that old: 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by allowing them to run such an ancient and unsupported version. --Larry Garfield -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!*
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
Check this http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.post-max-size On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!*
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
you can use JSON post 2013/8/19 aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
Mihai Anghel in php.general (Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:30:01 +0300): Check this http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.post-max-size Keyword: max_input_vars. Jan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
Godaddy enables you to upgrade to PHP 5.3 in the cPanel settings. Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 01:07:17 -0500 From: la...@garfieldtech.com To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP? 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by allowing them to run such an ancient and unsupported version. --Larry Garfield -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
T hank you, it works now. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Jan Ehrhardt php...@ehrhardt.nl wrote: Mihai Anghel in php.general (Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:30:01 +0300): Check this http://www.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.post-max-size Keyword: max_input_vars. Jan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!*
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Szopen Xiao chopins.x...@gmail.com wrote: you can use JSON post 2013/8/19 aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!*
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart -- Stuart Dallas 3ft9 Ltd http://3ft9.com/ On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Szopen Xiao chopins.x...@gmail.com wrote: you can use JSON post 2013/8/19 aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com: Hello there I am making a little web-based-tool for our studio to progress a large amount of data, more than 2000 items, but it seems there is a length limit of 1000 to $_POST. How can I submit all of the items in one time? Thank you! aesbovis -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* -- *Anywhere @aesbovis!* -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
Larry Garfield wrote: 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by allowing them to run such an ancient and unsupported version. While the statements are correct, many users are not in a position to move from their currently working systems to even 5.3 let alone 5.4. There is still a lot of legacy code that unless a few more people step up and help bring it forward for the many - non programming - users who are stuck with legacy applications, they will remain requiring 5.2 to run. ISPs got caught out when they arbitrarily moved accounts forward, and GoDaddy have even been caught by that, so maintaining a LTS version of PHP5.2 is the lesser evil ... Windows 2000 is supposed to be dead, but *I* still have sites reliant on it because the code and hardware is unsupported in even XP. Saying something is dead only works if there is an affordable way of moving forward ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
I apologize if this is off topic, but this raises a question for me. Why can't new versions be backwards compatible? Is it really that difficult to accomplish? This has been a complaint of mine for years with Windows ever since we went from 95 to 98. I am an AS400 programmer and I have legacy programs written in RPG II, which died 20 years ago, and they still run fine on the newest version of AS400 or iSeries or Power System or whatever the heck it is called now. I also have PHP scripts that are many years old that work just fine the way they are, if a new version doesn't come along and make me have to reprogram for no reason just because it can't handle older code. Really, have Do loops and data calls changed that much over the years? I mean, all you do is set a condition, use a variable key field, and voila, data is pulled and processed, no big deal. Yeah, you can get fancy with it, but the core basics are still the same. I have been programming for over 35 years and like to think that once a program is built it should run forever. Do we just accept that we have to rewrite every program we ever wrote every time a new version comes out? A little extreme, but you get my point. Comments? Suggestions? (I am also the kind of guy who thinks quality made hand tools from the 1800s are superior to many purchased today at Lowes or Home Depot.) Thanks, Jeff Burcher - IT Dept Allred Metal Stamping Works Making Metal Parts since 1946. -Original Message- From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:24 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP? Larry Garfield wrote: 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by allowing them to run such an ancient and unsupported version. While the statements are correct, many users are not in a position to move from their currently working systems to even 5.3 let alone 5.4. There is still a lot of legacy code that unless a few more people step up and help bring it forward for the many - non programming - users who are stuck with legacy applications, they will remain requiring 5.2 to run. ISPs got caught out when they arbitrarily moved accounts forward, and GoDaddy have even been caught by that, so maintaining a LTS version of PHP5.2 is the lesser evil ... Windows 2000 is supposed to be dead, but *I* still have sites reliant on it because the code and hardware is unsupported in even XP. Saying something is dead only works if there is an affordable way of moving forward ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
2013/8/19 Jeff Burcher j...@allredmetal.com I apologize if this is off topic, but this raises a question for me. Why can't new versions be backwards compatible? Is it really that difficult to accomplish? This has been a complaint of mine for years with Windows ever since we went from 95 to 98. I am an AS400 programmer and I have legacy programs written in RPG II, which died 20 years ago, and they still run fine on the newest version of AS400 or iSeries or Power System or whatever the heck it is called now. I also have PHP scripts that are many years old that work just fine the way they are, if a new version doesn't come along and make me have to reprogram for no reason just because it can't handle older code. Really, have Do loops and data calls changed that much over the years? I mean, all you do is set a condition, use a variable key field, and voila, data is pulled and processed, no big deal. Yeah, you can get fancy with it, but the core basics are still the same. I have been programming for over 35 years and like to think that once a program is built it should run forever. Do we just accept that we have to rewrite every program we ever wrote every time a new version comes out? A little extreme, but you get my point. Comments? Suggestions? My 2 cent: I hadn't any major issues with BC since 5.3 and from 5.2 it required a little bit to do, but was solveable (means: It wasn't complicated, but only an afternoon time to invest). Caine complaints from time to time his codebase here. That is nothing new and I am unsure how representative his statements are. Regards, Sebastian (I am also the kind of guy who thinks quality made hand tools from the 1800s are superior to many purchased today at Lowes or Home Depot.) Thanks, Jeff Burcher - IT Dept Allred Metal Stamping Works Making Metal Parts since 1946. -Original Message- From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:24 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP? Larry Garfield wrote: 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by allowing them to run such an ancient and unsupported version. While the statements are correct, many users are not in a position to move from their currently working systems to even 5.3 let alone 5.4. There is still a lot of legacy code that unless a few more people step up and help bring it forward for the many - non programming - users who are stuck with legacy applications, they will remain requiring 5.2 to run. ISPs got caught out when they arbitrarily moved accounts forward, and GoDaddy have even been caught by that, so maintaining a LTS version of PHP5.2 is the lesser evil ... Windows 2000 is supposed to be dead, but *I* still have sites reliant on it because the code and hardware is unsupported in even XP. Saying something is dead only works if there is an affordable way of moving forward ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- github.com/KingCrunch
Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
Sebastian Krebs wrote: Do we just accept that we have to rewrite every program we ever wrote every time a new version comes out? A little extreme, but you get my point. Comments? Suggestions? My 2 cent: I hadn't any major issues with BC since 5.3 and from 5.2 it required a little bit to do, but was solveable (means: It wasn't complicated, but only an afternoon time to invest). Caine complaints from time to time his codebase here. That is nothing new and I am unsure how representative his statements are. My 'problem' came about through taking over a couple of small hosting companies who had sites across several ISP's and various versions of PHP ( and ASP thrown in for good measure ). Every site required a day or so's work to tidy up, and little problems thrown in like the ?= cock-up which took down 5 sites when that ISP 'upgraded' PHP to the problem version. But the main problem still is making things E_STRICT compliant since PHP5.4 tends to be set up with it enabled and PHP5.3 will be fazed out on ISP's at some point. I'm slowly moving sites to servers where I do have control of the framework, but 'just an afternoons work' across a large number of sites and fire fighting when sites go down without prior warning all takes time ... I can't really complain, I've been picking up customers who's sites have been affected and earning money from them :) I have to say no to a lot though as there are only so many hours in a day. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript?
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:56, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript? PHP can do it. Ruby can do it. .NET can do it. Just because you want to use JSON in a web browser where Javascript is the go-to method, doesn't mean JSON requires Javascript. -Stuart -- Stuart Dallas 3ft9 Ltd http://3ft9.com/
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:56, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript? PHP can do it. Ruby can do it. .NET can do it. Just because you want to use JSON in a web browser where Javascript is the go-to method, doesn't mean JSON requires Javascript. -Stuart Yes, of course they can do it, but then you first need to submit the POST data (which he could not do because of the above). Javascript is more or less the only way to do it (yes I know Flash)
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On 19 Aug 2013, at 16:24, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:56, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 10:49, aesbovis aesbo...@gmail.com wrote: I know Javascript can solve it, but I don't want to use Js. Thank you all the same. I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. -Stuart You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript? PHP can do it. Ruby can do it. .NET can do it. Just because you want to use JSON in a web browser where Javascript is the go-to method, doesn't mean JSON requires Javascript. -Stuart Yes, of course they can do it, but then you first need to submit the POST data (which he could not do because of the above). Javascript is more or less the only way to do it (yes I know Flash….) I wasn't speaking to his specific issue as that was solved by an earlier response. I was just commenting that the implied intrinsic link between JSON and Javascript in what he had said does not exist. -Stuart -- Stuart Dallas 3ft9 Ltd http://3ft9.com/
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On Aug 19, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Stuart Dallas stu...@3ft9.com wrote: I wasn't speaking to his specific issue as that was solved by an earlier response. I was just commenting that the implied intrinsic link between JSON and Javascript in what he had said does not exist. -Stuart This is similar JAVA and JavaScript confusion -- even the college where I teach didn't know the difference. For example, several years ago, they asked me if I could teach Java-JavaScript and I answered Sure, which one? The administrator stood there like a dog who just heard a high note and replied Yes, we want you to teach Java-JavaScript. After I explained the difference, her next comment was Which one are you certified in? She went from not knowing the difference to knowing that certification was required to teach it (whatever it was). It's a wonder that anyone receives an education these days. Cheers, tedd ___ tedd sperling tedd.sperl...@gmail.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP?
Far too much is made of BC breaks between PHP versions. Well-behaved code should still be working a decade later. The catch is that well behaved gets tighter each release. For example: $foo = hello; $bar = world; print $foo[$bar]; In PHP 5.3 and earlier, $bar is a string which makes no sense as an index of a string. It needs to be an int. PHP therefore casts that to an int, gets 0, and you get h. In PHP 5.4, that was acknowledged as a bug (which it always was), and now triggers a Warning. Because, really, it always was a bug but just failed silently before. Now it tells you so you can fix it. It looks like a BC break, though, because I get an error I didn't used to. Other things are, eg, removing register_globals and magic_quotes, which have been deprecated for about 12 years and if you were still using them now then your code should break. :-) They're a security hole. But those are very few and far between. --Larry Garfield On 8/19/13 7:25 AM, Jeff Burcher wrote: I apologize if this is off topic, but this raises a question for me. Why can't new versions be backwards compatible? Is it really that difficult to accomplish? This has been a complaint of mine for years with Windows ever since we went from 95 to 98. I am an AS400 programmer and I have legacy programs written in RPG II, which died 20 years ago, and they still run fine on the newest version of AS400 or iSeries or Power System or whatever the heck it is called now. I also have PHP scripts that are many years old that work just fine the way they are, if a new version doesn't come along and make me have to reprogram for no reason just because it can't handle older code. Really, have Do loops and data calls changed that much over the years? I mean, all you do is set a condition, use a variable key field, and voila, data is pulled and processed, no big deal. Yeah, you can get fancy with it, but the core basics are still the same. I have been programming for over 35 years and like to think that once a program is built it should run forever. Do we just accept that we have to rewrite every program we ever wrote every time a new version comes out? A little extreme, but you get my point. Comments? Suggestions? (I am also the kind of guy who thinks quality made hand tools from the 1800s are superior to many purchased today at Lowes or Home Depot.) Thanks, Jeff Burcher - IT Dept Allred Metal Stamping Works Making Metal Parts since 1946. -Original Message- From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:24 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] how old is this version of PHP? Larry Garfield wrote: 5.2.9 was released in February of 2009. 5.2 is completely retired and out of support. 5.3 is on security-only life-support. 5.4 is the legacy stable release. Yes, 5.2.9 IS that old. :-) Really, get a host that has made it into this decade. (GoDaddy apparently doesn't meet that qualification.) You're doing clients a disservice by allowing them to run such an ancient and unsupported version. While the statements are correct, many users are not in a position to move from their currently working systems to even 5.3 let alone 5.4. There is still a lot of legacy code that unless a few more people step up and help bring it forward for the many - non programming - users who are stuck with legacy applications, they will remain requiring 5.2 to run. ISPs got caught out when they arbitrarily moved accounts forward, and GoDaddy have even been caught by that, so maintaining a LTS version of PHP5.2 is the lesser evil ... Windows 2000 is supposed to be dead, but *I* still have sites reliant on it because the code and hardware is unsupported in even XP. Saying something is dead only works if there is an affordable way of moving forward ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Mysqli Extension
Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Ethan Rosenberg erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('**mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$**password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan apt-get install php5-mysql If that doesn't help, there's something wrong with your configuration of the modules. - Matijn
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Found this in ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814736 sudo apt-get install php5-mysql This package contains the PHP module that interfaces with the MySQL server.
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote: Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Found this in ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814736 sudo apt-get install php5-mysql This package contains the PHP module that interfaces with the MySQL server. Could it be that the mysql service on the server has stopped. Typically you'd do something like this on RedHat/Fedora servers: service mysqld status That would certainly stop the extension working from within PHP. Thanks, Ash -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On 13-08-19 11:32 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 16:24, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript? PHP can do it. Ruby can do it. .NET can do it. Just because you want to use JSON in a web browser where Javascript is the go-to method, doesn't mean JSON requires Javascript. -Stuart Yes, of course they can do it, but then you first need to submit the POST data (which he could not do because of the above). Javascript is more or less the only way to do it (yes I know Flash….) I wasn't speaking to his specific issue as that was solved by an earlier response. I was just commenting that the implied intrinsic link between JSON and Javascript in what he had said does not exist. Your post didn't in anyway indicate that your response had nothing to do with his problem: I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. As such, given the requirement of POSTing over HTTP(S) and that JavaScript is almost certainly more frequently used than ActionScript, I think a JSON based solution was at least 50% linked to JavaScript. :) Cheers, Rob -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote: Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Found this in ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814736 sudo apt-get install php5-mysql This package contains the PHP module that interfaces with the MySQL server. Could it be that the mysql service on the server has stopped. Typically you'd do something like this on RedHat/Fedora servers: service mysqld status That would certainly stop the extension working from within PHP. Thanks, Ash I'm sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The extension has nothing to do with the mysql service. In fact, a lot of the larger websites have their database service running at a different server, and probably don't even have the mysql service installed. - Matijn
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote: Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Found this in ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814736 sudo apt-get install php5-mysql This package contains the PHP module that interfaces with the MySQL server. Could it be that the mysql service on the server has stopped. Typically you'd do something like this on RedHat/Fedora servers: service mysqld status That would certainly stop the extension working from within PHP. Thanks, Ash I'm sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The extension has nothing to do with the mysql service. In fact, a lot of the larger websites have their database service running at a different server, and probably don't even have the mysql service installed. - Matijn Look at his connection settings, it says localhost... Thanks, Ash -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
On Aug 19, 2013 2:32 PM, Ethan Rosenberg erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. (REACTED) Remember: avoid putting passwords - especially for root users - on a public mailing list, which is also permanently archived. echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote: Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Found this in ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814736 sudo apt-get install php5-mysql This package contains the PHP module that interfaces with the MySQL server. Could it be that the mysql service on the server has stopped. Typically you'd do something like this on RedHat/Fedora servers: service mysqld status That would certainly stop the extension working from within PHP. Thanks, Ash I'm sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The extension has nothing to do with the mysql service. In fact, a lot of the larger websites have their database service running at a different server, and probably don't even have the mysql service installed. - Matijn Look at his connection settings, it says localhost... Thanks, Ash var_dump(function_exists('**mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) I think it explains everything. - Matijn
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
Matijn Woudt wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote: Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - My mysqli extension seems to have gone away. $host = 'localhost'; $user = 'root'; $password = 'SdR3908'; echo hello2br /; var_dump(function_exists('mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) $db = 'Store'; $cxn = mysqli_connect($host,$user,$password,$db); I tried to reinstall - rosenberg:/home/ethan# apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. libapache2-mod-php5 set to manually installed. php5-cli is already the newest version. php5-cli set to manually installed. php5-common is already the newest version. php5-common set to manually installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. It did not help. TIA Ethan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Found this in ubuntu forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814736 sudo apt-get install php5-mysql This package contains the PHP module that interfaces with the MySQL server. Could it be that the mysql service on the server has stopped. Typically you'd do something like this on RedHat/Fedora servers: service mysqld status That would certainly stop the extension working from within PHP. Thanks, Ash I'm sorry, but this is just plain wrong. The extension has nothing to do with the mysql service. In fact, a lot of the larger websites have their database service running at a different server, and probably don't even have the mysql service installed. - Matijn Look at his connection settings, it says localhost... Thanks, Ash var_dump(function_exists('**mysqli_connect'));// this returns boo(false) I think it explains everything. You guys aren't being terribly helpful. My mostly stock 12.04 has the mysqli library so something else is going on. You might give the guy a little direction rather than berating him. or me. His question was about the library being missing. My answer was that it was included in the php_mysql package already and that was the correct answer to his question. The following is the result of a locate mysqli I've also followed with a sample script that I ran against the localhost database which returned 11 rows. These are the results of the locate command. /usr/include/php5/ext/mysqli /usr/include/php5/ext/mysqli/php_mysqli_structs.h /usr/lib/php5/20090626/mysqli.so /usr/share/man/man1/mysqlimport.1.gz /usr/share/php/.registry/mdb2_driver_mysqli.reg /usr/share/php/MDB2/Driver/mysqli.php /usr/share/php/MDB2/Driver/Datatype/mysqli.php /usr/share/php/MDB2/Driver/Function/mysqli.php /usr/share/php/MDB2/Driver/Manager/mysqli.php /usr/share/php/MDB2/Driver/Native/mysqli.php /usr/share/php/MDB2/Driver/Reverse/mysqli.php /usr/share/php/data/MDB2_Driver_mysqli /usr/share/php/data/MDB2_Driver_mysqli/package_mysqli.xml /usr/share/php/test/MDB2_Driver_mysqli /usr/share/php/test/MDB2_Driver_mysqli/tests /usr/share/php/test/MDB2_Driver_mysqli/tests/MDB2_nonstandard_mysqli.php ? $conn = new mysqli(localhost, user, password, mysql); if ($conn-connect_errno) { printf(Connect failed: %s\n, $conn-connect_error); exit(); } if ($result = $conn-query(SELECT * FROM user)){ printf(Select returned %d rows.\n, $result-num_rows); $result-close(); } Mind you I had a lot wrong with this script as I wrote it because I don't generally use mysqli directly and mysqli didn't complain about things being wrong. I thought that was a bit strange since I work mostly in Java these days and Java complains mercilessly about this that and the other thing. Curtis
Re: [PHP] Mysqli Extension
Matijn Woudt wrote: apt-get install php5-mysql Just to elaborate on that ... php5-common and php5-cli does not include a number of modules that need to be loaded separately. Choosing one of the database modules is not the only thing that may need to be added to your list of additional installations. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php