[PHP] Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)

2010-10-05 Thread Col Day

Hi all,

After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't 
logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script 
works sometimes but not others.


   html
   head
   titlePHP Test/title
   /head
   body
   pThis is an HTML line
   ?php
  echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
  phpinfo();
   ?
   /body
   /html

If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to 
localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by the 
pages of gumpf about php.


However if I paste this into a



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[PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)

2010-10-05 Thread Col Day


Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message 
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Hi all,

After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't 
logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script 
works sometimes but not others.


   html
   head
   titlePHP Test/title
   /head
   body
   pThis is an HTML line
   ?php
  echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
  phpinfo();
   ?
   /body
   /html

If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to 
localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by 
the pages of gumpf about php.


However if I paste this into a




That was weird!

I was saying, If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as 
before.


Anyone have any ideas?

PHP is obviously working as is apache. Just don't understand why they don't 
show up in web pages.


Cheers again all! 



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Re: [PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)

2010-10-05 Thread Col Day

Hi Shreyas,

Ok, as far as I can tell the script should show This is an HTML line 
reflecting that I am seeing the HTML part of the script followed by This is 
a PHP line to show that PHP is installed and working fine.


If I view the script directly in IE by going to http://localhost/phptest.php 
I get the output:


This is an HTML line

This is a PHP line

followed by a large and detailed list of the PHP install which includes 
things like compiler language etc.


If I paste the script into a web page then all that is displayed is

This is an HTML line.

Nothing else whatsoever.

I am fairly confused. I've tried a couple of different web page creators 
(Webplus 10 and Web page maker) and get the same result.


Sorry if I sound extremely naive but it's bugging me now and I want to 
understand.


Cheers

Shreyas Agasthya shreya...@gmail.com wrote in message 
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Col,

Can you let us know what exactly you see when you say
http://localhost:/phptest.php
?


Regards,
Shreyas

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Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message
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 Hi all,


After my escapades with the real basics and realizing my laptop wasn't
logged on as Administrator, I now am trying to work out why this script
works sometimes but not others.

  html
  head
  titlePHP Test/title
  /head
  body
  pThis is an HTML line
  ?php
 echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
 phpinfo();
  ?
  /body
  /html

If I save this as phptest.php and open IE pointing it to
localhost/phptest.php it works fine. Get both lines of text followed by 
the

pages of gumpf about php.

However if I paste this into a




That was weird!

I was saying, If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line 
as

before.

Anyone have any ideas?

PHP is obviously working as is apache. Just don't understand why they 
don't

show up in web pages.

Cheers again all!

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[PHP] Re: New to PHP and struggling with the basics

2010-10-05 Thread Col Day

Thanks Gary!

Nice to know I'm not the only one who has struggled with the Basics. 
Hopefully I can get my brain around it sometime soon.


Cheers

Col.

Gary php-gene...@garydjones.name wrote in message 
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Col Day wrote:

Yes I did install apache then php, however I tried to follow the
instructions in the Dummies book (what does it make me if I can't follow
the dummies book?) but to no avail.


Don't know what it makes you, but I remember trying to install Apache 
PHP separately a couple of years ago. The frustration of mismatching
versions (Apache only supporting PHP version something, PHP only playing
well with Apache version something-else) was... rather high. Head met
keyboard several times.




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[PHP] Re: Continuance of the struggle (trying to understand)

2010-10-05 Thread Col Day

LOL!

This is WITH xammp!!



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Col Day wrote:

Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message
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   html
   head
   titlePHP Test/title
   /head
   body
   pThis is an HTML line

 /p !-- close your tag, you evil man! :-) --

   ?php
  echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
  phpinfo();
   ?
   /body
   /html



If I paste this into a webpage I only get the HTML line as before.


What do you mean, webpage? foo.php, for example, or foo.html? If the
latter then I am guessing your Apache will serve the page purely as
html, and it will never be processed by php. If the former then check
that Apache is configured to run php files through php before serving
them (must admit, I'm not sure how to do that, it depends on your Apache
and PHP). Or, really, just install xampp, it's by far the easiest way
and will avoid all the problems associated with configuring two rather
complex pieces of software.




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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and struggling with the basics

2010-10-04 Thread Col Day

Kranthi
Many thanks, any idea on the name of the error logs?

Peter,
Yes, browsing to the correct location but still getting the 403. this 
website requires you to log in.


Abah,

I've gone to the httpd-userdir.conf file and replaced it with your text (not 
including the directory tree), restarted apache (after each change) but am 
still getting the same error.


However I have found that if I paste the html into my web page created by 
Serif WebPlus 10 I get the html line but not the php line.


Any further thoughts?

It has to be something simple that I'vw not done!

Cheers all.



kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com wrote in message 
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apache error logs will be helpful in this case. Their location varies
depending upon your installation. But in any case they'll be insde
your server directory (IIRC it is c:/Program Files/Apache Software
Foundation/Apache by default) 



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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and struggling with the basics

2010-10-04 Thread Col Day

Hi Kranthi,

No, I just literally get the HTML line shown but absolutely nothing 
beneath it.


kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com wrote in message 
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they should be something like error_log-[date] not sure about windows 
though


However I have found that if I paste the html into my web page created by 
Serif WebPlus 10 I get the html line but not the php line.


are you saying that you are getting the php code in your browser ?
?php
echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
phpinfo();
? 



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[PHP] New to PHP and struggling with the basics

2010-10-04 Thread Col Day

Hi all,

Working with the PHP5 for Dummies book (yup real noob, feel free to ridicule
(after telling me what I've done wrong)) and have installed Apache 2.2 and
PHP 5.3.3 onto a laptop running Vista. (yes I know!!!).

I've had Apache running fine with my basic web site created using Serif's
Webplus10 but wanted to experiment with PHP as I want an uploadable area on
my website for my friends and family to submit video/photos.

I've checked the install of PHP using php -v and I get the output that

PHP 5.3.3 (cli) (built: Jul 21 2010 20:10:20)

but when I try and go to the test.php file (below) I get an http 403 webiste
requires you to log in. Error message.

html
head
titlePHP Test/title
/head
body
pThis is an HTML line
?php
echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
phpinfo();
?
/body
/html

This is the text of the test.php file which I have plonked down in
/apache/htdocs

What have I missed?

the Dummies book is quoting PHP 5.0.0 as the latest release so not too far
away really.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers.

Col Day



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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and struggling with the basics

2010-10-04 Thread Col Day

Steve,

That's superb, many thanks for the link! I shall give it a go!

Yes I did install apache then php, however I tried to follow the 
instructions in the Dummies book (what does it make me if I can't follow the 
dummies book?) but to no avail.


I have just printed off the first 40 pages so that i can read it whilst 
looking at the screen ratrher than switching about, however I will give 
Xammp a go first and foremost seeing as I only want to test my own web page 
before I start to buy hosting elsewhere.


Seeing as you are so great :-) Any ideas of the best way to script an upload 
page that will deliver files to the server?


Family photo's and video clips mainly.

Thoughts?

Also, many thanks to everyone who has tried to help a muppet. But I guess we 
all gotta start somewhere!


Cheers again!

Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote in message 
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Col.

Since you're new to php, then an easy way to install apache, is using
XAMPP ( http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html )

I would suggest you remove the apache you have installed, and the php
you installed, and install the XAMPP package as it comes prebuilt with
mysql, ftp, apache and php, and it is simple to use/work with.

And if you install to defaults there, you will put your web files into
C:\xampp\htdocs\ and everythign should just work.

The way i read your initial post, is that you installed just apache, and
just php... if you did this, then you may not have integrated php into
apache properly, so then your php pages will not work.

just my $0.02 here, cuz if it doesn't work after you install XAMPP, then
there is something else wrong.

And the other thing, is that you're running on vista, and vista doesn't
like things running on localhost (or at least it didn't used to)

Steve


On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:51 +0100, Col Day wrote:

Hi Kranthi,

No, I just literally get the HTML line shown but absolutely nothing
beneath it.

kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:aanlktin2xnthqm-pp7qwtgo=sqtkctthtwz+08bbw...@mail.gmail.com...
 they should be something like error_log-[date] not sure about windows
 though

However I have found that if I paste the html into my web page created 
by

Serif WebPlus 10 I get the html line but not the php line.

 are you saying that you are getting the php code in your browser ?
 ?php
 echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
 phpinfo();
 ?








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Re: [PHP] New to PHP and struggling with the basics

2010-10-04 Thread Col Day
In addition, I think I may have got to the bottom of what I was doing wrong 
in the first place.


I recently swapped out my laptop for my wifes one (she upgraded, well I 
upgraded hers, and I got the old one) and I forgot that this one didn't 
automatically boot up into the Administrator profile.


Doh!

Cheers again all!


Col Day colind...@aol.com wrote in message 
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Steve,

That's superb, many thanks for the link! I shall give it a go!

Yes I did install apache then php, however I tried to follow the 
instructions in the Dummies book (what does it make me if I can't follow 
the dummies book?) but to no avail.


I have just printed off the first 40 pages so that i can read it whilst 
looking at the screen ratrher than switching about, however I will give 
Xammp a go first and foremost seeing as I only want to test my own web 
page before I start to buy hosting elsewhere.


Seeing as you are so great :-) Any ideas of the best way to script an 
upload page that will deliver files to the server?


Family photo's and video clips mainly.

Thoughts?

Also, many thanks to everyone who has tried to help a muppet. But I guess 
we all gotta start somewhere!


Cheers again!

Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote in message 
news:1286202653.4703.48.ca...@webdev01...

Col.

Since you're new to php, then an easy way to install apache, is using
XAMPP ( http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html )

I would suggest you remove the apache you have installed, and the php
you installed, and install the XAMPP package as it comes prebuilt with
mysql, ftp, apache and php, and it is simple to use/work with.

And if you install to defaults there, you will put your web files into
C:\xampp\htdocs\ and everythign should just work.

The way i read your initial post, is that you installed just apache, and
just php... if you did this, then you may not have integrated php into
apache properly, so then your php pages will not work.

just my $0.02 here, cuz if it doesn't work after you install XAMPP, then
there is something else wrong.

And the other thing, is that you're running on vista, and vista doesn't
like things running on localhost (or at least it didn't used to)

Steve


On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:51 +0100, Col Day wrote:

Hi Kranthi,

No, I just literally get the HTML line shown but absolutely nothing
beneath it.

kranthi kranthi...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:aanlktin2xnthqm-pp7qwtgo=sqtkctthtwz+08bbw...@mail.gmail.com...
 they should be something like error_log-[date] not sure about windows
 though

However I have found that if I paste the html into my web page 
created by

Serif WebPlus 10 I get the html line but not the php line.

 are you saying that you are getting the php code in your browser ?
 ?php
 echo pThis is a PHP line/p;
 phpinfo();
 ?










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