Re: [PHP] WYSIWYG online editor for Macintosh?
The client is using OS9 and OSX so I need to find something that works with both. It's looking like Java at this moment in time. You will need to be aware -- Java on Mac OS 9 is somewhat limited. Look up MRJ on Apple's tech pages. You will definitely want to test separately on Mac OS 9 and keep track of any system extensions you have to load to get things to work. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- When software is patentable, anything is patentable. (http://swpat.ffii.org) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] WYSIWYG online editor for Macintosh?
Hi there. Slightly OT, but it's for a PHP project... We normally use a plug-in WYSIWYG editor so that our clients can manage their content in a word-like interface. Normally this works fine, but this time when we've completed the site we've discovered they have an entire department that is 100% Macintosh and this editor doesn't work. Has anyone come across one of these that are cross-platform? Would really appreciate some advice First, the Text Edit application that comes with Mac OS X, coupled with iDisk, may actually be more than you need. By default, it edits RTF, but it also edits plain text. iDisk allows you to set up an FTP connection and edit over the network. It has the OSAX (AppleScript, et. al.) interface, so there is a way to interface with it programmatically. BBEdit is supposed to support editing via the web. It's an editor, not a word processor, but the interface is WYSIWYG, only modal in terms of switching to raw binary and such. I've used it to good purpose: http://www.barebones.com http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit Mind you, it's a very powerful editor. Includes some neat integration with perl, and should be easy enough to interface with php. BareBones's Newer, cheaper TextWrangler is also supposed to support FTP, if that would be enough. They have a good record about working with their customers, too. Hydra is a cute piece, allows people to simultaneous edit the same text document over the local network. The Coding Monkeys's page seems to be down right now. I have only heard mention in passing of Pepper, but it looks like it has returned to active development: http://www.digitalwandering.com/ (Mac fork) http://www.hekkelman.com/pepper.html (cross-platform) Alpha has been highly praised by some I count as friends. It has been compared with Emacs, although it is not really an Emacs work-alike. But I don't find any recent information on it, the links all stall. Hmm. Plugged text editor macintosh in at google.com, and got more information than I want to wade through. Then I went to apple.com, clicked on the Made4Mac tab, and wandered onto this page: http://guide.apple.com/uscategories/productivity.lasso scrolled down, selected text processing and editing utiliities, and got quite a few hits. HTH -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webserver for mac
I am doing some php work for a local company who uses a mac. I was telling them that I use apache as my webserver and they want to know what they can use as their webserver. I know nothing about Macs and don't think you an run apache but I may be all wrong...what do mac owners use for a webserver? _A_ mac? Do I sense the fragrance of ancient hardware? First place you want to look is apple.com. After reading the white pages on Mac OS X and Mac OS X Server, you really should plug apple web server and macintosh web server and other variants into your favorite search site and look around. You might even run into the fact that a Mac (pre-Mac OS X) was once considered practically impenetrable. (I don't remember if that challenge was ever defeated, the industry just seems to have moved on.) More information than you probably want: Mac OSses 8 and 9 have a personal web server built it. There are also freeware/shareware servers available that will run on Mac OSses 7 and 8. There are some commercial webservers, as well, some of which are being maintained and updated for Mac OS X, one has already been mentioned. I know of a live site being maintained professionally, serving FileMaker files on the web with the personal web server under Mac OS 8.6. It's a low-traffic site, of course. I think there's still an SE running System 6 and serving (hobby) web pages somewhere out there, too, just to show it can be done. Haven't looked for a while. But you should understand that the Mac OS previous to Mac OS X was cooperative multitasking, and it was difficult to serve multiple requests simultaneously on those machines. on-topic It'd surprise me if you could serve php on a pre-Mac OS X machine, but you can definitely serve perl (MacPerl) on them. As the others have said, I'd recommend Mac OS X for your customer, for a couple of reasons: First, php is already installed, or, at least, it was there on Mac OS X 10.2 when I got my copy of that. It needs to be updated for security reasons, but it is already in place. All I did was uncomment a couple of lines in httpd.conf and I was testing php pages on my iBook. (Perl is there, too, of course. Perl 5.8 will probably make it into Panther. Java is also there, and installing Tomcat/Struts, and the like is not all that hard.) Second, unless you need to build an absolutely impenetrable site, you and your customer will prefer to have the full Unix-family OS underlying Mac OS X. (Mac OS X is pretty secure, too, anyway. If you need more than that, you might want to look at openbsd, which, incidentally, does run on some Mac hardware.) Third, your customer really doesn't want to serve their site on a box that is also being used to run applications. So, even if the box they are thinking of putting the site on isn't a Mac OS X box, they really want another box, and they might as well get Mac OS X for that box. /on-topic -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] mail() usage in for loops
When you say batches of 500 , would that mean you put pauses between each batch ? Or do you prepare each email as a file and then send them out in batches of 500? Whats the time space between each batch? Assuming I was stuck with sendmail, what would you recommend ? Well, I don't know what Michael is doing, but we found that mail tended to be slow. If we didn't wait for each message, we tended to cause errors. So we wrote a service that called a PHP routine to ship the messages one at a time, and check that the process had completed for each message before sending the next. You can get mass-mailing systems written in Perl, I think there are now some available for PHP. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Server-side script identified as IE
(Quoting fixed) Vchat20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] umm. yes. I know that. the problem is the 1 site I want to pull news from has a robots.txt file which is preventing the script from working and I wanna get past that. Umm, yes, they put that there because they don't want you to, didn't they? I asked the owner and he says its ok if I do this as our sites are affiliated with each other. but he cannot remove the file due to hackers. Yeah, that's what they all say. ;-/ I think most of the people who know how aren't interested in taking the risk of helping yet another mail address harvester. If you're legit, please take the time to learn to do it right. Doing it right involves teaching your buddy how to publish an interface to the parts of his site that he is willing to share, etc. If you're not legit, find something more constructive to do with your time. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP vs ASP.NET formal opinions request
In a such poor country like this, Free Software and Open Source could be the answer to the government's software needs. Well, open source and free software are not God. Netcraft surveys the internet and reports on actual server usage. It's always good for a little dose of reality: http://news.netcraft.com/ Hmm. I remember some news about Peru. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=peru+free+software Gives this http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25157.html and, well, this http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26207.html Unfortunately, MS has the monopoly in the government's software, and our leaders see GNU like We don't have any support for that. Nobody guarantees us the GNU software's good performance. With MS we can demand answers to SOMEBODY. They say that they prefer to pay to get that warranty. I guess you could always make the argument that, to get Microsoft's attention and get bribes^H^H^H^H^H^Hhelp from the monopoly, you have to threaten to break out of it. :-( You might also mention that, if they want to buy support, RedHat and other Linux companies are now selling support. http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/ Shoot, Mac OS X is a pretty decent buy, too, and ASP does not run native on Apple's systems. I know that it's going to be hard, but I'm willing to fight for what I believe in. Wish me luck :D Good luck, but don't be surprised if the road is longer and harder than it ought to be. Make sure you can make a living while you're fighting. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Opinions on Micro$oft .NET
I hate to rain on this parade, but, I'm a pretty good PHP programmer, and things I could knock out in a couple of hours seem to be WAY more difficult to do in .Net. This is the pith of the question. If you knew what you're doing, anything from Microsoft takes longer to do than doing it the right way. If you don't know what you're doing, M$ gets you most of the way there for a cost. Management has historically actually preferred that labor not know anything. Therefore, Microsoft is Business. If management thinks that's okay and you think that's okay, jump into bed with them. If you don't like the deepening recession, run like hell, because if you think about it, it's exactly that kind of business that sucks all the value out of things. (And that's exactly what recession and depression are all about.) -- Joel Rees (The above opinion probably does not reflect the opinions of my employer.) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Possible My Website was hacked... with PHP... please tell me what this is???
Assuming you are not just trolling, Fortunatly I don't think they were doing something correctly, cause it didn't deface my site like some of the others Don't count on it. They only deface servers they don't want to use. ... everyone can execute shell commands via system(); on your server. - delete the script ;) Oh, by all means, delete it if you want. But it's not the hole it came in through, and it's not the real backdoor. It's so blatent, I'd guess it's a script kiddy or a decoy. Even if it's a script kiddy, you _want_ to know how it got on the box. I'd take the box offline, back up all the data and configuration files, and re-install the whole system and all programs from scratch. Go over every configuration file with a fine-tooth comb. If the machine is on a subnet and I controlled the subnet, I think I'd take the whole subnet down, including the firewall, and clean every machine up, not putting any machine back on the subnet until it was clean and any holes patched. If I didn't control the subnet, I'd make sure the persons who did know there had been a break-in. And if you have any valuable data, consider it to have been stolen. If you have credit card numbers, report the possibility of theft to the credit card companies. Etc. If you're trolling, go away. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Possible My Website was hacked... with PHP... please tell me what this is???
Well, now I feel slightly embarassed. I wasn't thinking of the possibility your site was hosted. My apologies for being a little overly dramatic. Yeah, definatley reason to explore the possibilities... But this is really my own stupid fault it got there in the first place... I had an image upload form and I didn't tell it only to accept image/jpeg or image/gif So you know how it probably got there. That's a good thing. The next step would have been to check whether the form would actually run. If it didn't, then _maybe_ you had some breathing room. Resolution... I deleted everything, and took down the upload form and notified my webhost... I guess it wasn't the first time they've seen this... So the are taking action on it and probably canceling my account... LOL... That's probably the safest and quickest approach, anyway. And I'm sure they appreciate the notification. I sure would. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP or CGI in C/C++
Greetinx, Greetinx to you to. I'm a newbie and wondering which PHP script or CGI in C/C++ generally can run/respond faster via http from the same server doing the same tasks. CGI is inherently slow. The way I understand it, php as CGI will probably be pretty much the same speed as C/C++ as CGI. PHP with mod_php should be faster than C/C++ as CGI. Compiling a server module is a complicated business, so you would probably want to avoid trying to compile a C/C++ webapp as a server module unless you have lots of experience (and I doubt you would be asking this question if you have that much experience. A book you might find useful in this context is Chris Radcliff's Perl for the Web. (Perl is one of PHP's grandpappies, so much of the discussion will apply to PHP.) I appreciate your comments in advance. I made no comments in advance, but you're welcome anyway. ;-P -- Joel Rees, programmer, Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] arguments against moving site from Linux/Apache/PHP server to Windows/IIS/PHP needed
First of all, security.. Windows is full of security holes Did anyone mention the weak password encryption that cnet.com talked about recently? If you get a copy of the password file, you can break any MSW password in a few seconds. Macintosh passwords takes 4000 times as long (or 4000 times as much memory). And Microsoft saying Well, we don't think it's a problem. or something like that. At any rate, check the advisory lists, break them down by platform for management. Make sure they don't overlook Mac OS X Server and openBSD. Do some research -- the research your management is most likely to understand is research that is done in house. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Redirection Question (I spoke to soon)
Finally, Thanks to all that tried to help, but I found part of the problem - sort of. In the file that I am trying to redirect to I have a form with the line: FORM onSubmit=return checkrequired(this) ACTION=season-write.php action=post name=testing It appears this line was corrupt somehow. CR/LF in your files brought over from MSWindows? After I rewrote the line from scratch it solved the problem of my paths being screwed up - why - I have no idea. Maybe it had some weird control characters or something that was screwing things up. However, there is still a problem with the header function - it still will not redirect. So did you check for things like CR/LF? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] classes v. functions
Hi, am Wednesday 23 July 2003 11:48 schrieb Joel Rees: (You know that $accesses-count and $accesses-resetCounter() are at least declared in the same class declaration. $accesses_count and accesses_resetCounter() could be declared in entirely unrelated include files for entirely different purposes.) That is the only benefit. But it's not OOP. If you need namespaces and can't take care of them w/o misuse of a semi-OOP construct youre not any more efficient with it. misuse? (I leaned sideways and cross my eyes, then I stood on my head, but that still makes no sense.) Is there any performance benefit one way or the other? Programmer performance? I used EZ_Sql which is cool but didn't seem to speed things up in comparison to the said include file. Still don't see the beef. Execution speed isn't all that matters. In fact, speed is not the point at all. Then you must be an PHPNuke or Typo3-programmer, beeing lucky to get at least 1 request per second ;). Oh, yeah, gotta watch those bees. Don't take it hard, but If you had ever been in computer-science [school|college|...] you would know that speed is all that matters. Sure. ROFDDCI -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp Rate that troll, maybe a 4/10? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] classes v. functions
Say I have a database class with all kinds of functions for connection, data manipulation, errors, etc: $db = new db_sql; $db-connect(); $db-do_this(); $db-do_that(); How would that be different from an include file with a bunch of functions doing the same thing? As far as I'm concerned, the primary benefit of classes is that you don't clutter up your namespace. If you have, for instance, $accesses-count, you know more about that count than if you have just $count. It's a method of organizing your code that doesn't (once you get used to it) get in the way. Also, you can be really sure that $accesses-resetCounter() is somehow related to $accesses-count, whereas $accesses_count and accesses_resetCounter() might win your confidence incorrectly. Or maybe you slip and use access_resetCounter() instead, which might be the cause of no end of grief. (You know that $accesses-count and $accesses-resetCounter() are at least declared in the same class declaration. $accesses_count and accesses_resetCounter() could be declared in entirely unrelated include files for entirely different purposes.) Is there any performance benefit one way or the other? Programmer performance? I used EZ_Sql which is cool but didn't seem to speed things up in comparison to the said include file. Still don't see the beef. Execution speed isn't all that matters. In fact, speed is not the point at all. Brad recommended I spend even more time with google looking for OOP, maybe that's why I'm so confused:). I think he's trying to point you to the mind-set. Do you like complex puzzles with intricate interactions where you have to keep tens of thousands of lines of code constantly in your head? Or do you like to focus on several hundred lines at a time, get those to behave, then move on to another part with a fairly high level of confidence that you won't shoot yourself in the foot by using the wrong count or resetCount() somewhere? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] I need a PHP alternative to Windows Scheduled Tasks
However, on 7/18 all 26 of my scheduled tasks stopped running; one of which continuously ran for 4 days straight w/o stopping (nor could I manually stop it). I deleted the runaway process and recreated it; now not a single one of my 26 scheduled Win2000 tasks I created using MS-DOS AT commands work (which were working since 7/2). I really don't know what I'm talking about here, but I think you have to register those scheduled tasks. Is the registry ok? I am now looking into programmatic alternatives. I really could use some ideas that are practical given my situation. I'm thinking PHP since I am very comfortable with it, were it possible within my bizarre Win2000 environment, but I need something that will clean those XML files remotely on a regular basis, it's important for website maintenance. Any help appreciated. Just a random suggestion, but how about having one scheduled task, and it's job is to run the 26 jobs you are presently trying to run as scheduled tasks. You reduce the load on MSW's scheduling, and you get more control over things like which tasks have to complete before others run. Of course, moving it all to Linux or one of the BSDs might help, but you might also want to check the design -- maybe there are some interdependencies, so that it would help to be able to make sure certain tasks are done before others, and that they all finish before starting over. I did a little script to mail out files on a regular basis. A co-worker wrote a C program that was called by the MSW2k scheduler, and that C program checked that my mailing script had completed before it tried to start another instance of the script. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Jumping between HTTP and HTTPS
if you do sniff the hash, the key, and the session. You will have to get your request in before the key becomes stale, race, race! In most cases the authentication is the first thing done so we're dealing with micro seconds. Most cases? Why re-invent the wheel? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Code and Good Design Methods
Hi Joel, Thanks for nice comments on the XML, XSL. I want to know more about it. can you please send me some article, links and tutorials? Thanks Hardik The ultimate source for xml related technologies is the World Wide Web Consortium at http://www.w3.org Most of the pages there are legalese, and really deep swimming. I think they do have some introductory materials, however. Model/View/Controller materials are most likely to be found in relation to SmallTalk, Objective C, and Java, since the concepts were originally worked out in those arenas. MVC and XML don't mix well, but the MVC concept is good to keep in mind if you want to use XML well. Other than that, there is plenty of material on the web. I know weeding out the bad stuff is not easy, but many of the pages that got me started have moved, I know not where. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Code and Good Design Methods
Let's be honest, XSL is is one big logic step itself -- moreover it's a whole other language to learn. ramble I wouldn't call it a _big_ step. It only looks big when you look down. 8-) I would tend rather to encourage the use of XSL, myself. If you can pick up php okay, you ought to have few problems with XSL. (My biggest problem with XSL is remembering to let the application language handle the hard logic. Don't try to calculate the company budget in XSL, except as a logic game to amuse yourself while riding the train home.) You have your data in the database, and a filter (ergo, PHP code) to extract the data, dress it up a bit and add XML tags. Then you have an XSL filter to munge the XML into HTML. And the nice thing about XSL is that the web page layout is all determined by the XSL. Of course, it does work out to be a bit messier than it sounds, but the benefits are definite. To the OP -- don't focus on the code, don't focus on the coding style either, focus on the problem. The object is not to avoid mixing PHP and HTML, and the object is not to use (or not use) objects. Rather, it is to separate processes that are more related to the business side of things from processes that are more related to the presentation side. My comments on XSL aside, you can program both business and presentation in PHP. HTML will mostly be in the presentation side, but not necessarily always. For instance, on the business side, you may sometimes want to provide a table of the projected monthly profits for the next year as a complete table wrapped in tags, rather than providing the raw numbers to the presentation side. If the design is in someone else's hands, you'll want a template engine. The basic concept is that the designer designs the template, putting template tags in where the data should go. The presentation code picks up the data and the template, replaces the tags with the data, and spits the result out at the viewer's browser. Some template engines are better at actually conforming to that model than others (particualarly in relation to your app), and XSL can definitely be used in ways that don't conform to that model. That's no big deal, just part of what makes life interesting. (And if you get into Javaland, you'll hear a lot about MVC and frameworks. That's a slightly more refined, uhm, model.) /ramble -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Replacing newlines (\n) with smething else
But what if say I want to replace a newline with something else, say
/pp. How would I do that?
(with apologies for the lack of imagination :-P)
?php
$George = Hello\n\tall\nyou\nfriendly people;
echo 'George: ' . $George . \n;
$Henry = str_replace( \n, /p\np, $George );
$Henry = 'p' . $Henry . /p\n;
echo 'Henry: ' . $Henry . \n;
$Helen = Kindest\r\tgreetings\nto all\r\nyou\n\rwonderful people;
echo 'Helen: ' . $Helen . \nSee what that \\r does?\n\n;
$Marion = str_replace( \r, \n, $Helen );
$Marion = str_replace( \n\n, \n, $Marion );
$Marion = str_replace( \n, /p\np, $Marion );
$Marion = 'p' . $Marion . /p\n;
echo 'Marion: ' . $Marion . \n;
$Juliet = preg_replace( '/([^\r\n]*)(\r\n|\n\r|\r|\n)/',
p\${1}/p\n, $Helen );
$Juliet = preg_replace( '/([^\r\n]+$)/',
p\${1}/p\n, $Juliet );
echo 'Juliet: ' . $Juliet . \n;
?
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Re: [PHP] Grabbing info from other Sites
The site really does need Login. The thing is this, I'm developing for an internal site, (My dept) but I need to access other dept's site to get info but unfortunately They won't give me access to query the db directly. Prefering me to go through the site and input accordingly to grab the data. I just find this to be SO troublesome as I need to get this data for every week. Week In.. Week Out and for a lot of items.. Screen scraping for fun and profit! Anything you can type into a form in a web browser, you can throw at the server with a program (if you have enough time to write the program). In perl, there are LWP::UserAgent, HTTP::Request, HTTP::Cookies, HTTP::Response, URI, etc. In php, I don't see anything right offhand. But, there's always Pear, which is becoming php's CPAN, and pear has at least these two: http://www.pear.php.net/package-info.php?package=HTTP_Request http://www.pear.php.net/package-info.php?package=HTTP_Client and they look somewhat promising. You'll probably need ssl related classes for the https stuff; it looks like there's some support in Pear's encryption stuff. I'm sure the php community would appreciate it if you would build and share anything that's missing. ;- But I will take a look at SNOOPY. (hey.. isn't the name snoopy copyrighted??) Trademarked, but only in relation to a cartoon character of a beagle and products based on the character, I think. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] BigEndian to integer
http://www.php.net/pack A little background on what Im doing. Im attempting to read realaudio files for their metadata, so Im reading from a binary string, and Im currently using unpack() (Im new to using this function, so I may be wrong with its usage) to unpack the data, along with ord(), and the result is something like what I posted before - 0 0 0 18 (I put the spaces in there so we know that each number is a byte) So Im not exactly sure how the pack() function would play a role in this. Just in case you're still groggy when you wake up this morning, the page for pack() lists an 'N' format for unsigned long big endian byte order for pack() and unpack(). I think what you probably want to do most is use the 'N' format when you unpack. (The other responses were amusing, was it a full moon last night? ;-)) -- Joel Rees, permanently jetlagged programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Missing php.ini file
Greetings again,
Did as Ralph suggested...here is the output :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] php]# find / -name php.ini -print
sudo is your friend.
/home/chris/Documents/Mein Stuph/PHP 4
Package/php-4.3.1/pear/tests/php.ini
find: /mnt/floppy: Input/output error
find: /mnt/cdrom: Input/output error
/mnt/ClientWebs/knowledgeTree/etc/php.ini
/mnt/Users/CBlake/Backup/Documents/Mein Stuph/PHP 4
Package/php-4.3.1/pear/tests
/php.ini
What was that?
/usr/local/Zend/bin/php.ini
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Re: [PHP] How To Ask Questions - Some List Guidelines
Next thing, please add a reply-to header that has the lists mailing address. This is a topic of debate, and many people (including myself) would urge people to ignore this advice. Mangling mail headers can have bad consequences, and there is very little reason to do so. Yeah, but I think the OP was not talking about mangling headers. The subject was how to ask questions, not how to set up the list server. The question is whether or not a person wants personal replies, I think. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Grabbing info from other Sites
In php, I don't see anything right offhand. http://www.php.net/curl blush/ -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] So in summary this can't be done due to permission problems?
As part of a CMS I wanted to get the user to: 1) Create a new recordset via a form (with a uniqueid). 2) Press submit whereupon php gets the ID of the record just created in the DB, writes a new page to the server with that unique id and saves it as a filename determined by the user. Seriously, aren't you really just trying to re-invent sessions? A cookie tracks your session id, your php uses the session id to maintain persistent data on the visitor, you use the persistent data to customize the page that gets presented. You don't need to know about file permissions beyond setting up apache and php. If you want more than sessions can give you, then you probably want to set up a directory that is not underneath your web root (maybe under /var somewhere?) and is only accessible to your apache user. The functions to read and write files in that directory should be declared in include files, which should also not be underneath your web root. If you want to really tighten the lid down, you can set up a separate server process and communicate with it through local sockets instead of IP. Or you could install a database and configure the database to not listen to anything coming in over the network. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Grabbing info from other Sites
Ow Mun Heng wrote, Mind my ignorance but what is webservices?? http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-starthere.html You don't really need to use http/HTML when talking machine-to-machine. XML is convenient and has some standards, but is also not necessary. Write a DTD that reveals the data you need. Write a little server script that reveals the data you want. Since you can't access the real data, use stubs for the access methods and hard code the data in your mock-server. Write a little client script that grabs the data from your mock-server script and passes it to your application. When that's running, encrypt the data stream from the server and decrypt in in the client. Brew up a little (encrypted) login-logout routine to increase their confidence level, then give all three to the other department and ask if they could either fill in the blanks or build their own version of the server. Then they control their side of the interface, both you and they control the DTD/encryption/login/logout together, and all you have to worry about is your client. ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Grabbing info from other Sites Hello The only way I can imageine is using curl and doing standard post get requests. But this will put you at the mercy of the other dep. since a change in design may force a change in your logic. If you can, try to build a separate interface for your app which you can use to interface the backend of the other deps. You might even consider Webservices. This way you are independend of the design of the site. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is it possible to test an uploaded file to check the type?
Is it possible to check a file in $_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'] to make sure it is of a certain format? I want to allow a user to only upload jpegs or mpegs, and want to check what format the file is in. If there are only a few types, and you know what those types should look like, it shouldn't be too hard. Maybe. For instance, you could try having ypur application open the putative jpeg with the GIMP, and if the GIMP fails to open it or bombs, then your application rejects the upload. ;-P (If you actually did use the GIMP for this, however, you don't want to call the GIMP directly from PHP/Apache. Not only would it bog your web app down, but it would potentially open your site up to secure attacks against a piece of software that is not known to be secure. What you'd want is something like a cron job to look at the upload directory for new uploads and pass them to a script that would call the GIMP to do the check. That way, if the GIMP dies, there is no open shell connected to an IP port. The cron job would also want to call something to clean up any dead processes left around.) I think there are dedicated jpeg validation libraries floating around. Not sure about MPEG. If it's a simple format, you may be able to write your own parser (regex?) for it, in which case, maybe you only need to check the first 100 or 1000 or so bytes. Checking to make sure a file was _not_ an MS-DOS executable used to be fairly easy. Anyway, whether you parse or let the user tell you (MISE) depends on how careful you need to be (i. e., what your application is going to do with the upload). -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Looking for experienced PHP programmer in the Memphis, TN area
This position requires strong technical knowledge in a server-side scripting technology such as PHP (preferred) /JSP/Perl/ASP. Knowledge of SQL queries, stored procedures and database design required. Must have experience in HTML/CSS and familiarity with HTTP and networking concepts. Graphic design and user-interface skills are desired. Experience with CVS and Linux/Unix shell environments a plus. Telecommuting from Japan okay? ;- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Wrong parameter count for fgets
Warning: Wrong parameter count for fgets() in I had this error on of my scripts, any ideas on this part? Well, I typed fgets into the search for field on a page at php.net, left the in the field set to function list, and clicked the little non-descript arrow to the right of that, and I found this: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.fgets.php From what it says on that page, I would guess that less than one or greater than two would be a wrong count. I note that the first argument would appear to be the file pointer fopen would return. The second is explained to be an optional limit to the number of bytes to be read. How come this error occur? My guess is that you tried to pass fgets either the wrong number or the wrong type of arguments. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] [ML] Are there any announcement rules for this list? (was Re: [PHP] Re: NEW SPAMMER ...)
I've just read the other thread about spammers and such. Indeed, my announcement - even for a free platform - was not complying to the posting guidelines as it not a response to any questions asked. I apologize. Where? The only guidelines that I can find for posting to this list are at http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php I see nothing there at all concerning announcements. I personally appreciate brief announcements of related products, regardless of licensing. A tag, [ANNOUNCEMENT] or [ANN], in the subject line would be helpful, but that's the only comment I have on the subject. If the list maintainers do have rules or guidelines about announcements, maybe one of them would speak up now? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Spammer! ...
STOP SPAMING the list. http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php Has some basic guidelines for list useage. (To the OP, [ANN] or [ANNOUNCEMENT] is a kinder tag.) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] print vs heredoc
Hi, again!! I thought I saw this post once already. I'm looking for opinions as to which is better/faster, print or heredoc. Well, like the guy said before, it sounds like you've pretty much already made up your mind. I don't use heredocs everywhere, but when I have a fairly large block of html with a small number of straight variable substitutions (no conditionals, etc.), I sometimes find heredocs to be convenient, and a lot easier to read in the source. reformatted style=wrapped print makes the code layout look nice Well, one of the purposes of a heredoc is to get the code out of the content, yielding a cleaner, more readable layout. If that's not what you're getting, you probably don't want to use heredocs. and eazy to debug, If there's something you need to debug, heredocs are possibly not indicated. where heredoc IS faster but makes the code look like a nightmare with everything jammed against the left side of the code. Not sure what you're saying. When I use heredocs, that is not the result, by any stretch of the imagination. (Well, I'm not sure about the speed business.) I'm pretty picky about what looks good and heredoc is a nightmare of horrors... /reformatted If that's the results you're getting, I'd say heredoc is probably not appropriate for what you're trying to do. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Session vs Cookie Issues
If anyone can help shed any light on the sort of instability I'm seeing, that would really help. Apache child processes die right and left, with segfaults and bus errors. Hardware? Overly agressive optimization switches when you compiled? Using pre-release software somewhere in the chain? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Get Rid of this Crook
Should people bend to the technology they use, or should the technology be manipulated to do the people's bidding? If you want the non-standard, set it up in your client and don't bother the rest of us. That's how you bend your technology to do your bidding. If you aren't aware of what the standard says concerning this topic, there are some RFCs you should read. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP on one box, Apache on another?
Hi, I told him that support for PHP was compiled into Apache and that it would be impractical. I asked if he wanted the DB on another box. I asked if he wated the scripts on another box. I am quite sure that there is no particular logic behind the request as I have not received any answers. If he tells me more I'll let you know. We had a request for this type of setup a couple months ago. The only logic behind it was a guy who didn't have any idea what he was talking about reading somewhere that you should have 3 servers per application you setup. 1. Web Server, 2. File Server, File server, of course, has nothing to do with php unless you write the file server in php. 8*| Or, perhaps that mod_php is usually compiled into the file server. (Is this possibly echos of iSCSI?) 3. DB Server. After we all got done laughing him off the phone call, we setup 2 servers, 1. Web/Files, 2. DB. Fortunately he decided to listen that day. Perhaps what he meant by web server was firewall (i. e., handling the internet interface), and by file server he meant what we now call web server (i. e., presenting the view of the file system that the outside world is supposed to see)? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP on one box, Apache on another?
I don't know the details of this request (like why., but as soon as I know I'll tell you) but can Apache live on one box with all PHP requests being handled on another box? Yeah, but what you're likely to end up with is apache on one machine just passing requests to and from apache-mod_php-your_app on another machine. Or, you could use some other web server on the second machine, might even be something dead-simple, like a shell process running command-line PHP (don't do that unless you know how and why already) or a perl (php?) script that passes things on to the PHP cgi. Are you familiar with Tomcat? The typical production arrangement with Tomcat, except for sites that use very little static html, is to have Apache handle the static html, and Tomcat handle the jsp/java. Apache and Tomcat can definitely be on separate machines. I think I have read somewhere reports of some project working to set up a similar special-purpose php-template server for php, but that may be just my imagination. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Installation for OS X
Does anyone know of a good installation kit like FoxServ, phpTriad, etc for Mac OS X? I want a quick solution for adding MySQL, GD, phpLib support for my mac. Well, if you're at least up to 10.1, it's already in there: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/01/04/apache_macosx_pt3.html It's an old version though (4.1.2 in 10.2), and there's an advisory out, so you probably want to download the latest and recompile. Did a quick search on google and discovered there's http://www.phpmac.com . Claims to be a member of the php developers' network, whatever that is. First time I've looked at it, so I can't comment on quality. But it does have a page on how to recompile. Also found these old docs at Apple. The one about customizing the dev tools for php looks interesting: http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/php.html http://developer.apple.com/internet/macosx/phpappledevtools.html -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php-general as REPLY TO
You'll have to learn to adjust then I guess. And do those 2k really matter? Come on... Just get a good mailer that defaults to Reply-All (like, mutt, pine, pcpine) Some of us don't have the choice -- we work in a corporate or institutional environment where the decision is made centrally. (Hence M$ Outlook 98 here!!!) There is a setting in MSOutlook/MSOE to wrap your lines, say, at 62 or 70. I don't remember my experiences with MSOE on Mac very well, but MSOE on MSW2k had little triangles on buttons in various places. If you hit the button, you got the standard function. If you hit the triangle, you got a pop-up menu. Pop-up menu for replies included basically all the potential reply addresses (according to MS judgement of potential reply addresses). Look around, maybe you can find something like that on MSOutlook 98. rambling We had some virus problems here last year, and now MS mail clients are banned. The company standardized on Becky for the MSWxx boxes, which is a really nice client, all sorts of features for mailing lists, newsgroups, etc. The filter setup is a little weird, but it works great. So I am beginning to forget the conveniences of MSOE on MSW2k, as well, which is not something I mind forgetting. But I have to admit, I find it puzzling why copy/pasting a mail address should be considered such an inconvenience. I admit, copy/paste on MSWxx feels clumsier than on a Mac, but the operations are fundamental to GUI. I also find it a puzzle why so many companies seem to think that MSOutlook's advantages outweigh the problems of having to bolt antivirus on everything (and the occasional slip-through that then proceeds to dirty entire subnets), but that is a separate topic. /rambling -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Licenses -- was Re: [PHP][PHP-DEV][PHP-QA] PHP 5.0.0 Beta 1
Hello, On 06/29/2003 04:16 PM, Sascha Schumann wrote: - Due to issues surrounding the MySQL 4.0 license, the MySQL libraries are no longer bundled with PHP. For more information on these licensing changes please see the MySQL licensing policy [1] [1] http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html I read the licensing information in the above link, but I'm curious what exactly in it necessitated the need to unbundle MySQL? Anyone have a quick answer? Note that the bundled library code was removed due to being unmaintained. The old bundled library code was in the public domain and thus not subject to the GPL. Only the MySQL 4 library is GPLed; the MySQL 3 library is not. It is unfortunate that some people try to confuse the public about this topic. Well, in this particular case, the confusion may not be incorrect. (So to speak.) Many people think that all Open Source software has a GPL license. I guess it is that old Lenine say, if you repeat the same lie many times, it becomes the truth, that today is known as propaganda. Credits for this Open Source lie should go to RMS. I'd lay the blame elsewhere. Stallman's writings are fairly direct and concise. He has helped clarify the semantics of free, and he has contrasted the sort of freedom he expounds with other concepts of freedom and openness. Whether you agree with him or not, his arguments and ideas are useful in both intellectual and business senses. You don't have to agree with people to learn from them, and you don't even have to agree with people to let them do their work, in general. The FUD comes from other sources. Anyway, MySQL 3 library seems to work perfectly to connect to MySQL 4 servers. What are MySQL 4 client library advantages? It's the maintenance issue. Anyone thought of keep the bundle of MySQL 3 library? Was there a problem, or is this unbundling initiative a sort of protest to make MySQL AB reconsider MySQL 4 client library licensing? There was a long thread (more than one, in fact) on this subject on the postgresql list(s), which referenced a thread on the php-dev list: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=postgresql-generalm=105631920423234w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-devm=105621207500778w=2 Of course, the issue of the license the driver falls under is mostly one of convenience, at least for the application programmer and end-user, I think. It doesn't really alter the legal status of most projects using MySQL and PHP (when the parts are assembled correctly), nor does it alter the moral/enlightened-self-interest obligations to pass some of the action back to the producers of free/open tools that help one make money. For MySQL AB, it will likely mean taking a slip in market share, since they lose their favored status in the PHP community. From what I've seen, Monty's a fairly sharp guy. For all I know, this may be a deliberate move to level the playing field and let the free/open source community get a broader view of some of the alternatives to the DB software sold by the primary source of the FUD. (my JPY 2) -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Securing PHP code
Maybe I am missing something totally obvious, but if the server is set up to properly parse php files - having configs outside of the doc root should not make much of a security difference? Is this a true statement or not? (of course we have to make the assumption that server access has not been compromised) There was a version of php where exactly this sort of hole existed under certain conditions. That hole does not exist in the present version. Check the security announcements for details. However, you should always consider a file extension among the weaker class of protections. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] free web host needed.
Perhaps the original poster should just set up their own linux box and run it off their home cable/dsl line. Good answer, although I would recommend looking at the BSDs, too -- netBSD in particular, runs on hardware you can drag out of dumpsters. Takes a bit of work to get it all together, of course. However, guessing from his e-mail address, he may physically not be anywhere close to any dumpsters that would have old computers and parts in them, much less to a home that could be hooked up to cable/dsl. http://www.matkurja.com/eng/country-info/ -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP Books (topic wandering)
Some of the O'Reilly books that I thought were not perfect: - All books about Perl. Now that we have nice c-like script languages like PHP, Python and Javascript who still wants to study the mess that Perl is? Heh. PHP, Python, Javascript? It's all perl to me. ;-) The O'Reilly books, as has been noted, are the standard references on perl. - The introduction to Ruby, probably called Ruby in a Nutshell. I had read the introductory article in DrDobbs by the author of the language and the language seemed nice, but whilst reading the book I noticed more and more cases of half-Perl ugliness. The language Ruby was designed by a Japanese and a lot of Japanese designs are flawed by being a seemingly random combination of aspects from Western designs. Ruby is also a dialect of perl, and very well done. You might want to take a closer look at what seems random to you now. But it seems to me you are criticizing languages rather than books in the above. - The Java in a Nutshell book. It consisted mainly of a collection of standard library functions but with to few details to be of any use. Java is a huge language and full of details. Once I got used to Java, O'Reilly's Java in a Nutshell turned out to be just right to have on my desk. The Examples volume is a necessity. PHP's on-line docs are great because PHP is small and glosses over a lot of details. Sun's on-line docs for Java just don't work as primary source because you have to see too much through that itty-bitty seventeen inch screen. (When monitors are 600dpi, and cheap and thin enough that we can have seven or eight of them sitting on our desk, then maybe we can finally get rid of books.) I propose that when looking for a book on a certain subject: - You check out if there is an O'Reilly book about it and when not, why not? - Compare any other book you encounter with the O'Reilly book and see if it is better. It might happen in selected cases. That's probably not a bad approach. By the way, I think that the online PHP-manual at php.net is very good so I have no need for a PHP book, No argument with that. except that I once bought O'Reilly's PHP Kort en Krachtig (the Dutch translation of the PHP Pocket Reference, probably the first version of 2000). Of course I would have bought the English version if it had been in stock here. The Dutch translations of computer books are often very flawed, plus that it's useful to learn the English terms. I imagine things will improve with Dutch. Japanese docs have definitely been improving -- less reliance on technical words borrowed from English, greater accuracy when choosing native terminology, less Janglish grammar. -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Good PHP Books
Thanks for your input. Yes I am already planning on using the book for extra information for the course, knowing I won't cover all the chapters in the book in such a short time. I won't get into things like GD(images) or things like creating PDF files dynamically. I plan to in the future create 1 or 2 day workshops on move advance topics like GD, etc.. This course is just to get their feet wet and interested in PHP. I have taught an ASP course for over 5 years and finally convinced the college to let me change it to PHP. Hey, I just taught myself php from the on-line docs at http://www.php.net/docs.php and some good sample source. I'm thinking I'd focus less on the book and more on choosing good samples. I personally like O'Reilly books in general. But I haven't seen their PHP offerings, so I'll refrain from actually recommending anything there. -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please
You might want to look around the jakarta projects and ask questions on some of those mailing lists. Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. But I *would* like to hear the opinions of PHP'ers too. I'm worried that by asking people on that list Ill get one-sided views. Of COURSE you'll get one-sided opinions over there. No, actually, they're mostly pretty open-minded. I think I recall a thread or two on one or both of the lists I mentioned comparing JSP with tomcat and maybe struts to php. You should be able to find it on marc or one of the other places that archives the jakarta lists. Hmm. php seems to get a lot of unrelated hits for some reason, but I notice that some people seem to have apache, tomcat, and php all running together. What do PHP people who've tried jsp or struts think? (tomcat is an open source java server that can be used with or without apache, and struts is an application framework.) The jsp'ers that I talked with could not stop praising struts ... which is what got me interested in finding out more and maybe even switching. Yeah, and the guys who developed struts are already working on something even better ... I just hope that if I do decide that struts are worth the switch the learning curve isn't too steep. Or the installation curve also since I'm the lone sysadmin too ... Well, it was pretty steep for me because I was trying to pick up Java and objects at the same time. I think you'll have less trouble if you already are comfortable with Java. -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Generate PHP using PERL???
Its kind of ugly, but its possible to call a php script thru a system() function in Perl. Why bother going through a system call? If you have apache loading both mod_php and mod_perl, you can call (include or whatever) through normal http methods. -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Generate PHP using PERL???
Well, I'm a little light on techniqueso bare with me... I've got pages that are dynamically created via a perl program. Already? That was fast. ;-) The final HTTP output depends upon input to the perl script. I would like the output of this script to be interpreted as a .PHP page so that I can take advantage of PHP functionality within that page. You're planning on piping perl into php? That sounds like fun. Since I dont know what my page will look like prior to running the perl script with its various inputs, I dont think I can do what your suggesting. Wish I knew which post you were replying to here, because I can't tell what was suggested, much less speculate much on why it doesn't look like it will work. ... Anyway, if I wanted to be able to use some graphics libraries that my hosting company made available for php but not for perl, I'd do the graphics manipulations on php pages and be done with it. (It seems odd to me that your hosting company doesn't want to load the perl modules. That might have me wanting to drop the hosting company and fire up an openbsd box to host my own.) -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please
... Before I start my new project I am considering whether to use PHP again or to switch to jsp. I'm worried that PHP won't scale well. And by scaling I don't mean under heavy load, I mean maintenance wise :) I can't imagine having to do a feature upgrade on a PHP project with more than 100 files ... (this file requires that file which requires that one and so on ...) I used to be a java programmer and always wax nostalgic about how easy it was to program-by-contract using objects and interfaces. And I'm always gripping about how much pain session handling is (not because of PHP but because HTTP is stateless). ... You might want to look around the jakarta projects and ask questions on some of those mailing lists. I've monitored the tomcat and struts lists in the past, and gotten a bit of help there: http://jakarta.apache.org (tomcat is an open source java server that can be used with or without apache, and struts is an application framework.) -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Heredoc question
That's fine for that but I have several places that use if's and else's... AFAIK, you can't do conditionals inside a here doc. But then you don't have to build your entire output string in one here doc, either. Hmm. Maybe you're trying to build templates? -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] static vars question
As I said, since I was recursing through the function by calling it numerous times in the middle of its execution, and since the function didn't explicitly return, I didn't expect it to continue past each call. That's all! Sounds like you're coming in from CoBOL or maybe BASIC? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] My Sincere Request!![Scanned]
1. This is the an example of the Nigeria 419 scam. I have no idea how it got the 419 in the name. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=nigeria+419 in particular, http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ -- Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
