Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[Daniel Brown]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, shiplu  wrote:
>
> Thanks Daniel for clearing. I am pretty bad in English. :(

Don't sell yourself short.  Your English seems fine to me ---
better than many native-speakers.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[shiplu]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Daniel Brown  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:15 PM, shiplu  wrote:
> >> Where *do* come up with those names :)
> >>
> >
> > Sorry I couldn't understand the meaning of your sentence. May be this is
> > due to cultural difference.
> >
> > Anyway, Solr is a search engine. Nutch is a crawler.  Both can be
> > integrated. Then one can send query to solr server from php using api.
> See
> > http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolPHP
>
> She was just giggling about the silly-sounding names for
> high-quality products.
>
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Thanks Daniel for clearing. I am pretty bad in English. :(

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Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[Daniel Brown]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 1:15 PM, shiplu  wrote:
>> Where *do* come up with those names :)
>>
>
> Sorry I couldn't understand the meaning of your sentence. May be this is
> due to cultural difference.
>
> Anyway, Solr is a search engine. Nutch is a crawler.  Both can be
> integrated. Then one can send query to solr server from php using api. See
> http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolPHP

She was just giggling about the silly-sounding names for
high-quality products.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[shiplu]

> Where *do* come up with those names :)
>

Sorry I couldn't understand the meaning of your sentence. May be this is
due to cultural difference.

Anyway, Solr is a search engine. Nutch is a crawler.  Both can be
integrated. Then one can send query to solr server from php using api. See
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/SolPHP


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Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[tamouse mailing lists]

On Aug 6, 2012 7:33 AM, "shiplu"  wrote:
> Solr with Nutch will do it.

Where *do* come up with those names :)

Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[shiplu]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Ansry User 01 wrote:

> We are trying to code a very simple and customized search engine for
> internal purposes. Please suggest if the PHP is the way to go or suggest
> the alternatives??
>
> It would be great if you can lead us to the links which would give us a
> start!!
>
> Thanks
>
>

Solr with Nutch will do it. One is search server and other is crawler. You
need both.
Google these terms you'll get to the right direction.


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Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[Gibbs]

On 06/08/12 15:24, Ansry User 01 wrote:

We are trying to code a very simple and customized search engine for internal 
purposes. Please suggest if the PHP is the way to go or suggest the 
alternatives??

It would be great if you can lead us to the links which would give us a start!!

Thanks



This is a very vague question, it really depends. Some recommendations 
off the top of my head:


http://lucene.apache.org/solr/
http://sphinxsearch.com/

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Re: [PHP] Coding Web search engine in PHP

[Vikash Kumar]

On 6 August 2012 19:54, Ansry User 01  wrote:

> We are trying to code a very simple and customized search engine for
> internal purposes. Please suggest if the PHP is the way to go or suggest
> the alternatives??
>
> It would be great if you can lead us to the links which would give us a
> start!!
>
> Thanks
>


try solr. http://lucene.apache.org/solr/


>
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[PHP] Re: How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories aslinks to them?

[Mitch]

On 4/14/2011 6:16 PM, Mikhail S wrote:

How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links to
them?

This is somewhat similar to some index pages. When new file or folder is
added to the directory, HTML page should display the newly created
file/folder together with previous ones after it is being refreshed. (prefer
in alphabatical order)

How to achieve this sort of functionality in PHP? Please provide sample
coding as well. (and any references)

Thanks.

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OK, maybe not the most elegant ... but it works for my purposes ... and 
it was my first attempt at these directory functions. You can navigate 
up and down the directory hierarchy. It flags files older than 1 year 
for potential cleanup.


Hope it gives you some ideas and a place to start...

Mitch
#! /usr/bin/php4


Diskspace Analyzer
$value){
$$key = $value;
}
?>




  Enter Directory Name 
Here
   


  
  

\n");
print("$dName Directory 
Information \n");
print("Highlighted files 
are older than 1 year and candidates for cleanup \n");
print("\n");
print("File 
NameFile 
SizeFile 
Date\n");
$d = @dir(trim($dName));
while ($entry = @$d->read()){
$total++;
$fileExt = explode(".", $entry);
if(is_dir($d->path . "/" . $entry)){
if($fileExt[0] ==""){
$fileExt[1] = "SysDirectories";
} else {
$fileExt[1] = "Directories";
}
$dirSize = filesize($d->path . "/" . $entry);
$totaldirSize += $dirSize;
$dirList[$entry] = $dirSize;
} else {
$fileExt[1] = "Files";
$fileStats = @stat($d->path . "/" . $entry);
$fileSize = $fileStats[7];
$totalSize += $fileSize;
$currDate = getdate();
$fdDay = date("z", $fileStats[10]);
$fdYear = date("Y", $fileStats[10]);
$ckDay = $currDate["yday"];
$ckYear = ($currDate["year"] - 1);
if (($fdYear < $ckYear) || (($fdYear == $ckYear) && 
($fdDay <= $ckDay))){
$highlight = "yellow";
$totalSavings += $fileStats[7];
} else {
$highlight = "white";
}
print("\t\n");
print("\t\t$entry$fileSize");
printf("%s", date("m/d/Y", $fileStats[10]));
print("\n");
print("\t\n");
}
$fileTypes[$fileExt[1]]++;
}
print("\t\n");
print("\t\tTotal Bytes in 
Files$totalSize");
if ($totalSavings > 0){
print("Potential Savings: $totalSavings");
}
print("\n");
print("\t\n");
print(" \n");

if(count($dirList) > 1){
ksort($dirList);
print("\n");
print("Directories\n");
foreach ($dirList as $key=>$value){
print("\t\n");
if ($key == "."){
print("\t\t$key  (Current)\n");
} elseif ($key == ".."){
$truncPoint = strrpos($dName, "/");
$parentDir = substr($dName, 0, $truncPoint);
if ($parentDir == ""){
$parentDir = "/";
}
print("\t\t$key (Parent)\n");
} else {
print("\t\t$key\n");
}
print("\t\n");
}
print("\t\n");
print("\t\tTotal Bytes 
($totaldirSize)\n");
print("\t\n");
print(" \n");
}

ksort($fileTypes);
arsort($fileTypes);
print("\n");
foreach ($fileTypes as $key=>$value){
print("$key ($value)\n");
};
print("\n");
print("Total Objects in $filespec branch: $total\n");
print("Total Bytes in $filespec branch: " . ($totalSize + 
$totaldirSize) . " \n");
} else {
Print ("Requested Directory ( 
$dName ) was not found\n");
} // end if (isset(...
print ("\n");
?>

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Re: [PHP] Re: How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories aslinks to them?

[Ashley Sheridan]

On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 15:02 -0500, Shawn McKenzie wrote:

> On 04/14/2011 06:16 PM, Mikhail S wrote:
> > How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links to
> > them?
> > 
> > This is somewhat similar to some index pages. When new file or folder is
> > added to the directory, HTML page should display the newly created
> > file/folder together with previous ones after it is being refreshed. (prefer
> > in alphabatical order)
> > 
> > How to achieve this sort of functionality in PHP? Please provide sample
> > coding as well. (and any references)
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --
> > Mike
> > http://jp.shopsloop.com/
> > 
> 
> I prefer glob().  Give it a shot and ask for help on code that you have
> tried.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks!
> -Shawn
> http://www.spidean.com
> 


There is a setting of Apache that will do this automatically for
directories that have no index, I don't remember exactly what it is
right now, but a quick Google should yield results
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[PHP] Re: How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories aslinks to them?

[Shawn McKenzie]

On 04/14/2011 06:16 PM, Mikhail S wrote:
> How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links to
> them?
> 
> This is somewhat similar to some index pages. When new file or folder is
> added to the directory, HTML page should display the newly created
> file/folder together with previous ones after it is being refreshed. (prefer
> in alphabatical order)
> 
> How to achieve this sort of functionality in PHP? Please provide sample
> coding as well. (and any references)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Mike
> http://jp.shopsloop.com/
> 

I prefer glob().  Give it a shot and ask for help on code that you have
tried.


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[PHP] Re: How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links to them?

[David Robley]

Mikhail S wrote:

> How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links
> to them?
> 
> This is somewhat similar to some index pages. When new file or folder is
> added to the directory, HTML page should display the newly created
> file/folder together with previous ones after it is being refreshed.
> (prefer in alphabatical order)
> 
> How to achieve this sort of functionality in PHP? Please provide sample
> coding as well. (and any references)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> --
> Mike
> http://jp.shopsloop.com/

Start with http://php.net/manual/en/function.opendir.php for a basic method.

Alternatively you can use the SPL DirectoryIterator class
http://php.net/manual/en/class.directoryiterator.php

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[PHP] How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links to them?

[Mikhail S]

How to write a PHP coding to list out all files and directories as links to
them?

This is somewhat similar to some index pages. When new file or folder is
added to the directory, HTML page should display the newly created
file/folder together with previous ones after it is being refreshed. (prefer
in alphabatical order)

How to achieve this sort of functionality in PHP? Please provide sample
coding as well. (and any references)

Thanks.

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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Edmund Hertle]

2009/1/30 Tom 

>
> "Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message
> news:47.36.08436.e8b80...@pb1.pair.com...
> > Tom wrote:
> >> "Clancy"  wrote in message
> >> news:c77vn4pri9tsbaqg9avv3i7dnfb8nvk...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:57:29 -0600, obeli...@comcast.net ("Tom")
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ..
> > Also make sure there aren't line returns or any nonsense like that in
> > the to & subjects.  Look up email header injection.  Your script
> might
> > become quite popular at advertising p3n1s pills otherwise. :)
>  Thanks I'll check it out. I tried including the above code but I still
>  can't
>  seem to get it to work. Must be missing something.
> 
>  Thanks,
> >>> David Powers books "PHP for Dreamweaver xxx" (Friends of Ed) give very
> >>> clear  instructions
> >>> on installing PHP and implementing the essential items such as this.
> >>>
> >> Thanks I'll check it out.
> >>
> >>  I am no Coder and don't have a lot of time to devote to these things,
> to
> >> busy running a business, but I do enjoy learning how things work which
> is
> >> why I have taken this on. Website is just for informational display as
> >> they
> >> don't produce much in the way of mortgage originations. I was hoping to
> >> get
> >> something along the lines of the actually coding needed to pull this
> off.
> >> I
> >> have spent every available moment over the last three  months on this
> >> website (which is my first) with nothing more than an online beginners
> >> course in CS3 & CSS. I have appreciated everyones feedbackl. If anyone
> >> has
> >> coding I can cut and paste with just a few adjustments on my end that
> >> would
> >> be great.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> > You have the code.  You just need to create a contact.php file and put
> > the email specific PHP in it and then modify your form to have
> > method="post" action="contact.php".
> >
> > --
> > Thanks!
> > -Shawn
> > http://www.spidean.com
>
> The following link shows my PHP configurations.
> http://www.richlandmtg.com/test.php Are there any that should be set
> differently? I noticed the system is Linux.
>

You should never let a php_info() file be accesibly to the public! Security
concerns!
And your problem has nothing to do with your php configuration or if your
server is linux or windows or...

Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message 
news:47.36.08436.e8b80...@pb1.pair.com...
> Tom wrote:
>> "Clancy"  wrote in message
>> news:c77vn4pri9tsbaqg9avv3i7dnfb8nvk...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:57:29 -0600, obeli...@comcast.net ("Tom") wrote:
>>>
>>> ..
> Also make sure there aren't line returns or any nonsense like that in
> the to & subjects.  Look up email header injection.  Your script might
> become quite popular at advertising p3n1s pills otherwise. :)
 Thanks I'll check it out. I tried including the above code but I still
 can't
 seem to get it to work. Must be missing something.

 Thanks,
>>> David Powers books "PHP for Dreamweaver xxx" (Friends of Ed) give very
>>> clear  instructions
>>> on installing PHP and implementing the essential items such as this.
>>>
>> Thanks I'll check it out.
>>
>>  I am no Coder and don't have a lot of time to devote to these things, to
>> busy running a business, but I do enjoy learning how things work which is
>> why I have taken this on. Website is just for informational display as 
>> they
>> don't produce much in the way of mortgage originations. I was hoping to 
>> get
>> something along the lines of the actually coding needed to pull this off. 
>> I
>> have spent every available moment over the last three  months on this
>> website (which is my first) with nothing more than an online beginners
>> course in CS3 & CSS. I have appreciated everyones feedbackl. If anyone 
>> has
>> coding I can cut and paste with just a few adjustments on my end that 
>> would
>> be great.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
> You have the code.  You just need to create a contact.php file and put
> the email specific PHP in it and then modify your form to have
> method="post" action="contact.php".
>
> -- 
> Thanks!
> -Shawn
> http://www.spidean.com

The following link shows my PHP configurations.
http://www.richlandmtg.com/test.php Are there any that should be set 
differently? I noticed the system is Linux.

T 



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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Shawn McKenzie]

Tom wrote:
> "Clancy"  wrote in message 
> news:c77vn4pri9tsbaqg9avv3i7dnfb8nvk...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:57:29 -0600, obeli...@comcast.net ("Tom") wrote:
>>
>> ..
 Also make sure there aren't line returns or any nonsense like that in
 the to & subjects.  Look up email header injection.  Your script might
 become quite popular at advertising p3n1s pills otherwise. :)
>>> Thanks I'll check it out. I tried including the above code but I still 
>>> can't
>>> seem to get it to work. Must be missing something.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>> David Powers books "PHP for Dreamweaver xxx" (Friends of Ed) give very 
>> clear  instructions
>> on installing PHP and implementing the essential items such as this.
>>
> Thanks I'll check it out.
> 
>  I am no Coder and don't have a lot of time to devote to these things, to 
> busy running a business, but I do enjoy learning how things work which is 
> why I have taken this on. Website is just for informational display as they 
> don't produce much in the way of mortgage originations. I was hoping to get 
> something along the lines of the actually coding needed to pull this off. I 
> have spent every available moment over the last three  months on this 
> website (which is my first) with nothing more than an online beginners 
> course in CS3 & CSS. I have appreciated everyones feedbackl. If anyone has 
> coding I can cut and paste with just a few adjustments on my end that would 
> be great.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom 
> 
> 
You have the code.  You just need to create a contact.php file and put
the email specific PHP in it and then modify your form to have
method="post" action="contact.php".

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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Clancy"  wrote in message 
news:c77vn4pri9tsbaqg9avv3i7dnfb8nvk...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:57:29 -0600, obeli...@comcast.net ("Tom") wrote:
>
> ..
>>>
>>> Also make sure there aren't line returns or any nonsense like that in
>>> the to & subjects.  Look up email header injection.  Your script might
>>> become quite popular at advertising p3n1s pills otherwise. :)
>>
>>Thanks I'll check it out. I tried including the above code but I still 
>>can't
>>seem to get it to work. Must be missing something.
>>
>>Thanks,
>
> David Powers books "PHP for Dreamweaver xxx" (Friends of Ed) give very 
> clear  instructions
> on installing PHP and implementing the essential items such as this.
>
Thanks I'll check it out.

 I am no Coder and don't have a lot of time to devote to these things, to 
busy running a business, but I do enjoy learning how things work which is 
why I have taken this on. Website is just for informational display as they 
don't produce much in the way of mortgage originations. I was hoping to get 
something along the lines of the actually coding needed to pull this off. I 
have spent every available moment over the last three  months on this 
website (which is my first) with nothing more than an online beginners 
course in CS3 & CSS. I have appreciated everyones feedbackl. If anyone has 
coding I can cut and paste with just a few adjustments on my end that would 
be great.

Thanks,
Tom 



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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Shawn McKenzie]

Tom wrote:
> "Edmund Hertle"  wrote in message 
> news:f7ed91b20901261644y125f71aer3e0b70735c949...@mail.gmail.com...
>> 2009/1/26 Tom 
>>
>>> "Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message
>>> news:497e3ab9.2060...@mckenzies.net...
>>>>
>>>> Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>>>>> Tom Scott wrote:
>>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn McKenzie"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Newsgroups: php.general
>>>>>> To: 
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
>>>>>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise
>>>>>>>>>> the form
>>>>>>>>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get
>>>>>>>>>> this set
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>>>>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>>>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com.
>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> webpages.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working
>>>>>>>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>> CS3
>>>>>>>>>>>> took care of this.
>>>>>>>>>>>Tom,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all
>>>>>>>>>>> client
>>>>>>>>>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
>>>>>>>>>>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me
>>>>>>>>>>> to find
>>>>>>>>>>> out!
>>>>>>>>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
>>>>>>>>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to
>>>>>>>>> gather
>>>>>>>>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> does that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> -Shawn
>>>>>>>>> http://www.spidean.com
>>>>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>>>>> So would that look something like this:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>>>>>>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>>>>>>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>>>>>>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // set the variables
>>>>>>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>>>>>>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>>>>>>>> $s

RE: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Boyd, Todd M.]

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom [mailto:obeli...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:58 AM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
> 
> 
> "Edmund Hertle"  wrote in message
> news:f7ed91b20901261644y125f71aer3e0b70735c949...@mail.gmail.com...
> > 2009/1/26 Tom 
> >
> >>
> >> "Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message
> >> news:497e3ab9.2060...@mckenzies.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom Scott wrote:
> >> >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn McKenzie"
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Newsgroups: php.general
> >> >>> To: 
> >> >>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52 PM
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Tom wrote:
> >> >>>>> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
> >> >>>>>> Tom wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP
> otherwise
> >> >>>>>>> the form
> >> >>>>>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info
to
> get
> >> >>>>>>> this set
> >> >>>>>>> up
> >> >>>>>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
> >> >>>>>>> T
> >> >>>>>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>>
> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com.
> >> ..
> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom 
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for
> the
> >> >>>>>>>>> webpages.
> >> >>>>>>>>> The
> >> >>>>>>>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not
> working
> >> >>>>>>>>> properly.
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
> >> >>>>>>>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the
> page.?
> >> >>>>>>>>> I
> >> >>>>>>>>> thought
> >> >>>>>>>>> CS3
> >> >>>>>>>>> took care of this.
> >> >>>>>>>>Tom,
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is
> all
> >> >>>>>>>> client
> >> >>>>>>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
> >> >>>>>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the
> data to
> >> >>>>>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file
> to
> >> >>>>>> gather
> >> >>>>>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to
another
> file
> >> >>>>>> that
> >> >>>>>> does that.
> >> >>>>> Shawn,
> >> >>>>> So would that look something like this:
> >> >>>>>  >> >>>>> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
> >> >>>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
> >> >>>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
> >> >>>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> // set the variables
> >> >>>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
> >> >>>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
> >> >>>>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
> >> >>>>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> // send the email
> >> >>>>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
> >> >>>>>
>

Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Edmund Hertle"  wrote in message 
news:f7ed91b20901261644y125f71aer3e0b70735c949...@mail.gmail.com...
> 2009/1/26 Tom 
>
>>
>> "Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message
>> news:497e3ab9.2060...@mckenzies.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Tom Scott wrote:
>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn McKenzie"
>> >>> 
>> >>> Newsgroups: php.general
>> >>> To: 
>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Tom wrote:
>> >>>>> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
>> >>>>>> Tom wrote:
>> >>>>>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise
>> >>>>>>> the form
>> >>>>>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get
>> >>>>>>> this set
>> >>>>>>> up
>> >>>>>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>> >>>>>>> T
>> >>>>>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>> >>>>>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com.
>> ..
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the
>> >>>>>>>>> webpages.
>> >>>>>>>>> The
>> >>>>>>>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working
>> >>>>>>>>> properly.
>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
>> >>>>>>>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? 
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>> thought
>> >>>>>>>>> CS3
>> >>>>>>>>> took care of this.
>> >>>>>>>>Tom,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all
>> >>>>>>>> client
>> >>>>>>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> 
>> >>>>>>>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>> >>>>>>>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
>> >>>>>>>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me
>> >>>>>>>> to find
>> >>>>>>>> out!
>> >>>>>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
>> >>>>>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to
>> >>>>>> gather
>> >>>>>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>>> does that.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>> -Shawn
>> >>>>>> http://www.spidean.com
>> >>>>> Shawn,
>> >>>>> So would that look something like this:
>> >>>>> > >>>>> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>> >>>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>> >>>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>> >>>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> // set the variables
>> >>>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>> >>>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>> >>>>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
>> >>>>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> // send the email
>

Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Edmund Hertle]

2009/1/26 Tom 

>
> "Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message
> news:497e3ab9.2060...@mckenzies.net...
> >
> >
> > Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> >>
> >> Tom Scott wrote:
> >>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn McKenzie"
> >>> 
> >>> Newsgroups: php.general
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Tom wrote:
> >>>>> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
> >>>>>> Tom wrote:
> >>>>>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise
> >>>>>>> the form
> >>>>>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get
> >>>>>>> this set
> >>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
> >>>>>>> T
> >>>>>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com.
> ..
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the
> >>>>>>>>> webpages.
> >>>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working
> >>>>>>>>> properly.
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
> >>>>>>>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I
> >>>>>>>>> thought
> >>>>>>>>> CS3
> >>>>>>>>> took care of this.
> >>>>>>>>Tom,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all
> >>>>>>>> client
> >>>>>>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
> >>>>>>>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
> >>>>>>>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me
> >>>>>>>> to find
> >>>>>>>> out!
> >>>>>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
> >>>>>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to
> >>>>>> gather
> >>>>>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> does that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>> -Shawn
> >>>>>> http://www.spidean.com
> >>>>> Shawn,
> >>>>> So would that look something like this:
> >>>>>  >>>>> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
> >>>>>
> >>>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
> >>>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
> >>>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
> >>>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
> >>>>>
> >>>>> // set the variables
> >>>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
> >>>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
> >>>>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
> >>>>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
> >>>>>
> >>>>> // send the email
> >>>>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
> >>>>>
> >>>>> }
> >>>>> ?>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Oh, you should also think about some other things, such as validation.
> >>>> Is realname only alpha characters?  Is email in the form of a real
> >>>> email
> >>>> address?  At a bare minimum, are they not empty:
> >>>>
> >>>> if (empty($_POST['email']) ||
> >>>> empty($_POST['realname']) ||
> >>>> empty($_POST['feedback']))
> >>>> {
> >>>>echo 'You must complete all required fields!';
> >>>> // show form again
> >>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> -Shawn
> >>>> http://www.spidean.com
> >>> Ok. I have the validation part.
> >>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/index-5.html still working on the Send
> >>> button.
> >>>
> >>> T
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Please reply all so this stays on the list.
> >>
> >> 1.  In the source for your link I see that the JS is doing some
> >> validation.
> >> 2.  You have method="get" in your form.  This will work, but you'll have
> >> to change the PHP code to use $_GET instead of $_POST vars.  Or change
> >> to method="post" in the form.
> >> 3.  If you want to keep the .html extension for the page, then you'll
> >> probably need to send the post to another script with a .php extension.
> >> Normally a file with a .html extension won't execute the PHP code.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> -Shawn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> I was just looking at that. Someone told me to use GET instead of POST.
> Since JS is validating is it as easy replacing GET with POST ? Nothing else
> needed? Is it better to remove the JS and just code using PHP as you showed
> before?
> if (empty($_POST['email']) ||
> empty($_POST['realname']) ||
> empty($_POST['feedback']))
>
> Thanks,
> Tom


Yes, I think it is better to just use PHP code and post is the better method
(in this case) because with get all your fields and values will show up in
the url

-eddy

Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Eric Butera"  wrote in message 
news:6a8639eb0901261509s1008e1b1j89c2a8f63669e...@mail.gmail.com...
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Daniel Brown  wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 16:34, Tom  wrote:
>>>
>>> Shawn,
>>> So would that look something like this:
>>> >> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>>>
>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>>>
>>> // set the variables
>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
>>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>>>
>>> // send the email
>>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
>>>
>>> }
>>> ?>
>>
>>For processing once it reaches the server, yes - almost exactly.
>> A few recommended changes though:
>>
>>* Change > different PHP configurations.
>>* Change your if() to if($_POST['realname'])
>>* DO NOT rely on register_globals - it's insecure and will
>> soon be phased-out of PHP.  Instead, using your code:
>>$realname = strip_tags($_POST['realname']);
>>* Use explicit headers with mail().  For example:
>>$headers  = "From: y...@example.com\r\n";
>>$headers .= "X-Mailer: PHP/".phpversion()."\r\n";
>>mail($sendto,$subject,$message,$headers);
>>* Do something (exit, header("Location: otherpage.html")
>> redirect, etc.) so that the form doesn't reappear.
>>
>>Then, either include that code at the top of the file in which
>> your HTML resides, or place it in it's own file (for example:
>> formproc.php) and change your form tag to:
>>> id="formName">
>>
>>
>>NB: My original responses that this wasn't PHP-related was based
>> on your original message, saying that your "submit button" wasn't
>> working, and then including HTML and JavaScript code only.  It didn't
>> appear as though it had anything to do with PHP.  Getting a good
>> answer is best-achieved by asking a well-formed question.
>>
>> --
>> 
>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me to find 
>> out!
>>
>> --
>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>
>>
>
> Also make sure there aren't line returns or any nonsense like that in
> the to & subjects.  Look up email header injection.  Your script might
> become quite popular at advertising p3n1s pills otherwise. :)

Thanks I'll check it out. I tried including the above code but I still can't 
seem to get it to work. Must be missing something.

Thanks,
T 



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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Eric Butera]

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Daniel Brown  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 16:34, Tom  wrote:
>>
>> Shawn,
>> So would that look something like this:
>> > if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>>
>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>>
>> // set the variables
>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>>
>> // send the email
>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
>>
>> }
>> ?>
>
>For processing once it reaches the server, yes - almost exactly.
> A few recommended changes though:
>
>* Change  different PHP configurations.
>* Change your if() to if($_POST['realname'])
>* DO NOT rely on register_globals - it's insecure and will
> soon be phased-out of PHP.  Instead, using your code:
>$realname = strip_tags($_POST['realname']);
>* Use explicit headers with mail().  For example:
>$headers  = "From: y...@example.com\r\n";
>$headers .= "X-Mailer: PHP/".phpversion()."\r\n";
>mail($sendto,$subject,$message,$headers);
>* Do something (exit, header("Location: otherpage.html")
> redirect, etc.) so that the form doesn't reappear.
>
>Then, either include that code at the top of the file in which
> your HTML resides, or place it in it's own file (for example:
> formproc.php) and change your form tag to:
> id="formName">
>
>
>NB: My original responses that this wasn't PHP-related was based
> on your original message, saying that your "submit button" wasn't
> working, and then including HTML and JavaScript code only.  It didn't
> appear as though it had anything to do with PHP.  Getting a good
> answer is best-achieved by asking a well-formed question.
>
> --
> 
> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me to find out!
>
> --
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>

Also make sure there aren't line returns or any nonsense like that in
the to & subjects.  Look up email header injection.  Your script might
become quite popular at advertising p3n1s pills otherwise. :)

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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Shawn McKenzie"  wrote in message 
news:497e3ab9.2060...@mckenzies.net...
>
>
> Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>>
>> Tom Scott wrote:
>>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn McKenzie"
>>> 
>>> Newsgroups: php.general
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
>>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise
>>>>>>> the form
>>>>>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get
>>>>>>> this set
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the
>>>>>>>>> webpages.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working
>>>>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
>>>>>>>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I
>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>> CS3
>>>>>>>>> took care of this.
>>>>>>>>Tom,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all 
>>>>>>>> client
>>>>>>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>>>>>>>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
>>>>>>>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me
>>>>>>>> to find
>>>>>>>> out!
>>>>>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
>>>>>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to 
>>>>>> gather
>>>>>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> does that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> -Shawn
>>>>>> http://www.spidean.com
>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>> So would that look something like this:
>>>>> >>>> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>>>>>
>>>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>>>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>>>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>>>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>>>>>
>>>>> // set the variables
>>>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>>>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>>>>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
>>>>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>>>>>
>>>>> // send the email
>>>>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
>>>>>
>>>>> }
>>>>> ?>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, you should also think about some other things, such as validation.
>>>> Is realname only alpha characters?  Is email in the form of a real 
>>>> email
>>>> address?  At a bare minimum, are they not empty:
>>>>
>>>> if (empty($_POST['email']) ||
>>>> empty($_POST['realname']) ||
>>>> empty($_POST['feedback']))
>>>> {
>>>>echo 'You must complete all required fields!';
>>>> // show form again
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> -Shawn
>>>> http://www.spidean.com
>>> Ok. I have the validation part.
>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/index-5.html still working on the Send 
>>> button.
>>>
>>> T
>>>
>>>
>> Please reply all so this stays on the list.
>>
>> 1.  In the source for your link I see that the JS is doing some 
>> validation.
>> 2.  You have method="get" in your form.  This will work, but you'll have
>> to change the PHP code to use $_GET instead of $_POST vars.  Or change
>> to method="post" in the form.
>> 3.  If you want to keep the .html extension for the page, then you'll
>> probably need to send the post to another script with a .php extension.
>> Normally a file with a .html extension won't execute the PHP code.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Shawn
>>
>>
>>
I was just looking at that. Someone told me to use GET instead of POST. 
Since JS is validating is it as easy replacing GET with POST ? Nothing else 
needed? Is it better to remove the JS and just code using PHP as you showed 
before?
if (empty($_POST['email']) ||
empty($_POST['realname']) ||
empty($_POST['feedback']))

Thanks,
Tom



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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Shawn McKenzie]

Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> 
> Tom Scott wrote:
>> - Original Message - From: "Shawn McKenzie"
>> 
>> Newsgroups: php.general
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms
>>
>>
>>> Tom wrote:
>>>> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise
>>>>>> the form
>>>>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get
>>>>>> this set
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>>>>>> T
>>>>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the
>>>>>>>> webpages.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working
>>>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
>>>>>>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> CS3
>>>>>>>> took care of this.
>>>>>>>Tom,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
>>>>>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>>>>>>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
>>>>>>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me
>>>>>>> to find
>>>>>>> out!
>>>>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
>>>>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to gather
>>>>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file
>>>>> that
>>>>> does that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> -Shawn
>>>>> http://www.spidean.com
>>>> Shawn,
>>>> So would that look something like this:
>>>> >>> if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>>>>
>>>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>>>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>>>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>>>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>>>>
>>>> // set the variables
>>>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>>>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>>>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
>>>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>>>>
>>>> // send the email
>>>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
>>>>
>>>> }
>>>> ?>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, you should also think about some other things, such as validation.
>>> Is realname only alpha characters?  Is email in the form of a real email
>>> address?  At a bare minimum, are they not empty:
>>>
>>> if (empty($_POST['email']) ||
>>> empty($_POST['realname']) ||
>>> empty($_POST['feedback']))
>>> {
>>>echo 'You must complete all required fields!';
>>> // show form again
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Thanks!
>>> -Shawn
>>> http://www.spidean.com
>> Ok. I have the validation part.
>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/index-5.html still working on the Send button.
>>
>> T
>>
>>
> Please reply all so this stays on the list.
> 
> 1.  In the source for your link I see that the JS is doing some validation.
> 2.  You have method="get" in your form.  This will work, but you'll have
> to change the PHP code to use $_GET instead of $_POST vars.  Or change
> to method="post" in the form.
> 3.  If you want to keep the .html extension for the page, then you'll
> probably need to send the post to another script with a .php extension. 
> Normally a file with a .html extension won't execute the PHP code.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Shawn
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Daniel Brown"  wrote in message 
news:ab5568160901261347h1dab427bo29a1313494cd...@mail.gmail.com...
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 16:34, Tom  wrote:
>>
>> Shawn,
>> So would that look something like this:
>> > if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>>
>> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
>> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
>> $email = strip_tags($email);
>> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>>
>> // set the variables
>> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
>> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
>> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
>> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>>
>> // send the email
>> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
>>
>> }
>> ?>
>
>For processing once it reaches the server, yes - almost exactly.
> A few recommended changes though:
>
>* Change  different PHP configurations.
>* Change your if() to if($_POST['realname'])
>* DO NOT rely on register_globals - it's insecure and will
> soon be phased-out of PHP.  Instead, using your code:
>$realname = strip_tags($_POST['realname']);
>* Use explicit headers with mail().  For example:
>$headers  = "From: y...@example.com\r\n";
>$headers .= "X-Mailer: PHP/".phpversion()."\r\n";
>mail($sendto,$subject,$message,$headers);
>* Do something (exit, header("Location: otherpage.html")
> redirect, etc.) so that the form doesn't reappear.
>
>Then, either include that code at the top of the file in which
> your HTML resides, or place it in it's own file (for example:
> formproc.php) and change your form tag to:
> id="formName">
>
>
>NB: My original responses that this wasn't PHP-related was based
> on your original message, saying that your "submit button" wasn't
> working, and then including HTML and JavaScript code only.  It didn't
> appear as though it had anything to do with PHP.  Getting a good
> answer is best-achieved by asking a well-formed question.
>
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Us newbies don't always phrase the questions right but you & Shawn answered 
my question. Just have to try it out now.
Thanks
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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Shawn McKenzie]

Tom wrote:
> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message 
> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
>> Tom wrote:
>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise the form
>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get this set 
>>> up
>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>>> T
>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages.
> The
> following page has my form but the submit button is not working 
> properly.
> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I 
> thought
> CS3
> took care of this.
Tom,

This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
 side (JavaScript and HTML).

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>>>
>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to gather
>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file that
>> does that.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Thanks!
>> -Shawn
>> http://www.spidean.com
> 
> Shawn,
> So would that look something like this:
>  if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
> 
> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
> $email = strip_tags($email);
> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
> 
> // set the variables
> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
> 
> // send the email
> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
> 
> }
> ?>
> 
> 
> 
Oh, you should also think about some other things, such as validation.
Is realname only alpha characters?  Is email in the form of a real email
address?  At a bare minimum, are they not empty:

if (empty($_POST['email']) ||
empty($_POST['realname']) ||
empty($_POST['feedback']))
{
echo 'You must complete all required fields!';
// show form again
}


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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Daniel Brown]

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 16:34, Tom  wrote:
>
> Shawn,
> So would that look something like this:
>  if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
>
> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
> $email = strip_tags($email);
> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
>
> // set the variables
> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
>
> // send the email
> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
>
> }
> ?>

For processing once it reaches the server, yes - almost exactly.
A few recommended changes though:

* Change 


NB: My original responses that this wasn't PHP-related was based
on your original message, saying that your "submit button" wasn't
working, and then including HTML and JavaScript code only.  It didn't
appear as though it had anything to do with PHP.  Getting a good
answer is best-achieved by asking a well-formed question.

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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Shawn McKenzie]

Tom wrote:
> "Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message 
> news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
>> Tom wrote:
>>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise the form
>>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get this set 
>>> up
>>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>>> T
>>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages.
> The
> following page has my form but the submit button is not working 
> properly.
> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I 
> thought
> CS3
> took care of this.
Tom,

This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
 side (JavaScript and HTML).

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 out!
>>>
>> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
>> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to gather
>> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file that
>> does that.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Thanks!
>> -Shawn
>> http://www.spidean.com
> 
> Shawn,
> So would that look something like this:
>  if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == "POST") {
> 
> // Just to be safe, I strip out HTML tags
> $realname = strip_tags($realname);
> $email = strip_tags($email);
> $feedback = strip_tags($feedback);
> 
> // set the variables
> // replace $...@mysite.com with your email
> $sendto = "$...@mysite.com";
> $subject = "Sending Email Feedback From My Website";
> $message = "$realname, $email\n\n$feedback";
> 
> // send the email
> mail($sendto, $subject, $message);
> 
> }
> ?>
> 
> 
> 
That's a good start, however you should use $_POST['realname'] etc.
since they are coming from a post operation. $realname only exists if
register_globals is on, which is evil.

Also, you would probably do this before your form so that you can say
"Thanks for your feedback." and then exit or redirect and not display
the form again.

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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

"Shawn McKenzie" <> wrote in message 
news:a0.87.62571.3d92e...@pb1.pair.com...
> Tom wrote:
>> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise the form
>> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get this set 
>> up
>> don't I? What do you suggest?
>> T
>> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message
>> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
 I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages.
 The
 following page has my form but the submit button is not working 
 properly.
 http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
 What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I 
 thought
 CS3
 took care of this.
>>>Tom,
>>>
>>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
>>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
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>>> out!
>>
>>
>
> What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
> itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to gather
> up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file that
> does that.
>
>
> -- 
> Thanks!
> -Shawn
> http://www.spidean.com

Shawn,
So would that look something like this:





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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Shawn McKenzie]

Tom wrote:
> My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise the form 
> won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get this set up 
> don't I? What do you suggest?
> T
> "Daniel Brown"  wrote in message 
> news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
>>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages. 
>>> The
>>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working properly.
>>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
>>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I thought 
>>> CS3
>>> took care of this.
>>Tom,
>>
>>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
>> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>>
>> -- 
>> 
>> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
>> http://www.parasane.net/ || http://www.pilotpig.net/
>> Unadvertised dedicated server deals, too low to print - email me to find 
>> out! 
> 
> 

What you have now is a form that when submitted sends the data to
itself.  So you either need to include some php in this file to gather
up the data and email it when submitted, or submit to another file that
does that.


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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

My Hosting site said that I needed to include the PHP otherwise the form 
won't work. I need to know where to include my email info to get this set up 
don't I? What do you suggest?
T
"Daniel Brown"  wrote in message 
news:ab5568160901261259p6d6442a4ya5ea4134025e5...@mail.gmail.com...
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
>> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages. 
>> The
>> following page has my form but the submit button is not working properly.
>> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
>> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I thought 
>> CS3
>> took care of this.
>
>Tom,
>
>This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
> side (JavaScript and HTML).
>
> -- 
> 
> daniel.br...@parasane.net || danbr...@php.net
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Re: [PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Daniel Brown]

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 15:57, Tom  wrote:
> I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages. The
> following page has my form but the submit button is not working properly.
> http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
> What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I thought CS3
> took care of this.

Tom,

This issue has nothing at all to do with PHP.  This is all client
side (JavaScript and HTML).

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[PHP] Coding for email response forms

[Tom]

I am a new user of PHP, and am using Dreamweaver CS3 for the webpages. The 
following page has my form but the submit button is not working properly. 
http://www.richlandmtg.com/contacts.html
What code is needed and where does it get placed in the page.? I thought CS3 
took care of this.

Any input is greatly appreciated.
Tom

   

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Re: [PHP] coding MySQL error traps [WAS: mysql if empty]

[Richard Lynch]

On Tue, April 10, 2007 1:08 pm, Paul Novitski wrote:
> mysql_query() returns true.  This constitutes a hack because it
> depends entirely on the way the parser processes code rather than on
> explicit elements of the language.

The order of execution and boolean short-circuit is a Documented Feature.

This is no more a "hack" than relying on:

if ($foo || $bar){
}

to do the right thing.

That said, "or die..." is a shorthand for "you should replace this
with REAL error handling", so you're right, only for the wrong
reasons.

:-)

> define('bDebug', true);
> ...
> $bResult = mysql_query($sql);
>  if (!$bResult) return ReportSQLError('checking user name',
> mysql_errno(), mysql_error(), $sql);
> ...
> function ReportSQLError($context, $errno, $errorMsg, $sql)
> {
>  if (bDebug)
>  {
>  die("MYSQL ERROR $errno $context: />\n$errorMsg\n$sql");
>  }
>  else
>  {
>  return $generate_friendly_error_message;
>  }
> }

Personally, I wouldn't use this bDebug stuff...

It's too easy for a logic error in bDebug/non-bDebug to slip through
QA, and have the application working "differently" on the Production
server from the dev server.

This is particularly true if you don't have a test suite with 100% (or
close) code coverage.

Better to do something like:

$whatever = mysql_query($query, $connection);
if (!$whatever){
  $messages[] = "Something went wrong. Nice user error message here.";
  error_log(mysql_error($connection));
  error_log($query);
}

$messages can be dumped out en masse in the presentation layer in a
suitable div.

Some would argue that things could go very wrong and fill up your log
files...

Well, yeah, if you're so inept and dis-organized as to not have a
process in place to detect and deal with a problem that it happens
enough to fill up your log files, then, yes, it could be a problem...

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Re: [PHP] coding MySQL error traps [WAS: mysql if empty]

[Jim Lucas]

Paul Novitski wrote:



$sql = "SELECT Client FROM booked WHERE Name = 'larry'";

$result = mysql_query($sql) OR die('[MYSQL ERROR] - 
['.mysql_errno().']'.mysql_error());


while ( list($client) = mysql_fetch_row($result) ) {
echo "{$client}\n";
}



I agree with this logic overall.  The above is of course just 
oversimplified demo code, but I'd like to mention a few details I would 
change before putting this into practice.


The syntax "$result = mysql_query($sql) OR die();" is nicely compact but 
obfuscates the program logic.  PHP is not actually ORing two values, 
it's halting execution halfway through the statement if mysql_query() 
returns true.  This constitutes a hack because it depends entirely on 
the way the parser processes code rather than on explicit elements of 
the language.  To help keep legacy code from crashing with PHP version X 
I'd break this into two statements: run the query, then act on the 
result.  The parser won't care, and your code will be more easily 
readable by us humans.


Displaying mysql_error() is great for the developer but in a public 
application will expose the names of tables and fields to the public who 
shouldn't really see your wires and pipes.


mysql_error() doesn't usually contain the entire query and doesn't 
always contain the segment of the query that actually caused the error, 
so I always add the full query to the error message to save time in 
debugging.


Finally, die()ing on a mysql error is pretty harsh; a friendlier 
application would return the error state to parent layers, translate the 
error into advice a non-technical user can deal with, and display it in 
a way that doesn't crash the page.


Rather than trying to remember to go through the code later fixing these 
bits, I suggest adopting a convention early on that suits both 
development and publication, such as:

___

define('bDebug', true);
...
$bResult = mysql_query($sql);
if (!$bResult) return ReportSQLError('checking user name', 
mysql_errno(), mysql_error(), $sql);

...
function ReportSQLError($context, $errno, $errorMsg, $sql)
{
if (bDebug)
{
die("MYSQL ERROR $errno $context:\n$errorMsg/>\n$sql");

}
else
{
return $generate_friendly_error_message;
}
}
___

Regards,

Paul
__

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Yes, this was intended to only show the OP a very simple way to get done what 
they were wanting to do.


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[PHP] coding MySQL error traps [WAS: mysql if empty]

[Paul Novitski]

$sql = "SELECT Client FROM booked WHERE Name = 'larry'";

$result = mysql_query($sql) OR die('[MYSQL ERROR] - 
['.mysql_errno().']'.mysql_error());


while ( list($client) = mysql_fetch_row($result) ) {
echo "{$client}\n";
}



I agree with this logic overall.  The above is of course just 
oversimplified demo code, but I'd like to mention a few details I 
would change before putting this into practice.


The syntax "$result = mysql_query($sql) OR die();" is nicely compact 
but obfuscates the program logic.  PHP is not actually ORing two 
values, it's halting execution halfway through the statement if 
mysql_query() returns true.  This constitutes a hack because it 
depends entirely on the way the parser processes code rather than on 
explicit elements of the language.  To help keep legacy code from 
crashing with PHP version X I'd break this into two statements: run 
the query, then act on the result.  The parser won't care, and your 
code will be more easily readable by us humans.


Displaying mysql_error() is great for the developer but in a public 
application will expose the names of tables and fields to the public 
who shouldn't really see your wires and pipes.


mysql_error() doesn't usually contain the entire query and doesn't 
always contain the segment of the query that actually caused the 
error, so I always add the full query to the error message to save 
time in debugging.


Finally, die()ing on a mysql error is pretty harsh; a friendlier 
application would return the error state to parent layers, translate 
the error into advice a non-technical user can deal with, and display 
it in a way that doesn't crash the page.


Rather than trying to remember to go through the code later fixing 
these bits, I suggest adopting a convention early on that suits both 
development and publication, such as:

___

define('bDebug', true);
...
$bResult = mysql_query($sql);
if (!$bResult) return ReportSQLError('checking user name', 
mysql_errno(), mysql_error(), $sql);

...
function ReportSQLError($context, $errno, $errorMsg, $sql)
{
if (bDebug)
{
die("MYSQL ERROR $errno $context:/>\n$errorMsg\n$sql");

}
else
{
return $generate_friendly_error_message;
}
}
___

Regards,

Paul
__

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Re: [PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Ramdas]

On 1/23/07, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Sorry for troubling all again.
> I am trying to use the Pear DB_ldap for the above scripts.
>
> Does any one have any sample code for ldap_connect () ldap_search etc.

http://php.net/ldap_connect

http://php.net/ldap_search

Both pages have examples.

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Thanx for replying Chris.

I am in process to modify my existing php scripts to a more neater/compact code.

In current scripts certain code ( ldap_connect , ldap_bind , if connet
error show error page etc ) is repeated many times.

This makes the scripts very bulky and even small changes that need to
be done are very difficult to implement.

That's why I am looking for some thing with a ready functions for the
above which I can use. I believe PEAR DB_ldap has it. But very little
documentation is avaliable.

So I was searching for any sample scripts.

-
My current script:
user edit page


on update


The problem is, for separate edit pages I have written separate update
pages. Any new object to edit needs a new edit page & a relevent
update page.

I believe if I can use functions this can be reduced to just one
update page with fewer edit pages.

Very sorry for this long mail.

Thanx & Regards
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Re: [PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Chris]

Sorry for troubling all again.
I am trying to use the Pear DB_ldap for the above scripts.

Does any one have any sample code for ldap_connect () ldap_search etc.


http://php.net/ldap_connect

http://php.net/ldap_search

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Re: [PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Ramdas]

On 1/18/07, Ramdas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/17/07, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ramdas wrote:
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > A very newbie question. Might be discussed earlier, please forgive.
>
> Are so much of a noob that STFW is not within your capabilities?
> (just thought I'd ask, given that you admit to realising the info *might*
> be out there already)
>
> >
> > I am having a site in PHP ( not very great design ) which I need to
> > convert/modify to use functions. Such the code for connecting /
> > binding to Ldap is not repeated & scripts are more readable.
> >
> > The site deals with modifying / adding / deleting entries in a LDAP dir.
> >
> > In each of the pages following is done:
> >
> >  >
> > require 'validate.php' ;// validate.php checks if the user is loged in
> >
> > $connect = ldap_connect(ldapserver);
> > if ($connect) {
> >
> > bind ...
> > do the things
> >
> > }else { echo erro..}
> >
> > ?>
> >
> >
> > Also please advice what is a correct method of checking the user's
> > session. Currenlty I use a "HTTP_SESSION_VARS" variable to store the
>
> recommended to use the $_SESSION superglobal instead and stuff values
> directly into (after having called session_start()) instead of using 
session_register()
> et al.
>
> > user's login & passwd . Each time the user hits the page these vars
>
> you only need to store *whether* they are logged in - and set that value when 
you
> actually handle a login attempt (obviously storing their username could be 
handy)
>
> I don't see any reason to store the passwd and validate against ldap on
> every request ... in fact I believe that storing the pwd in such a way is 
essentially less
> secure.
>
> > are checked with the existing values in the LDAP (this is done by
> > validate.php).
> >
> > Please suggest me some good starting point where I can start a fresh
> > with more compact/cleaner Code.
>
> that question is about as vague as 'how long is a chinaman?'
> (the answer to that question being 'yes he is')
>
> here are some very vague ideas/functions:
>
> an include file ...
> === 8< =
>  function sessionCheck()
> {
>if (!isset($_SESSION['loggedin']) || !$_SESSION['loggedin']) {
>/* show login page then .. */
>exit;
>}
> }
>
> function doLogin($username, $passwd)
> {
>$_SESSION['loggedin'] = false;
>if (/* given $username+$passwd check outs in ldap*/)
>$_SESSION['loggedin'] = true;
>
>return $_SESSION['loggedin'];
> }
> ?>
>
> an 'init' include file
> === 8< =
> 
> require 'your-include-file.php'; // see above
>
>
> session_start();
>
> if (isset($_POST['uname'], $_POST['pwd'])) {
>doLogin($_POST['uname'], $_POST['pwd']);
> }
>
> sessionCheck();
>
> ?>
>
> any other file (other than the login 'page')
> === 8< =
> 
> require 'your-init-file.php';
>
> // we are logged in - it's magic
>
> // do some shit
>
> // the end, congrats go get laid :-)
>
> ?>
>

Thanx for the all responses.

Regards
Ram



Hi all,

Sorry for troubling all again.
I am trying to use the Pear DB_ldap for the above scripts.

Does any one have any sample code for ldap_connect () ldap_search etc.

Thanx once again.

Regards
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Re: [PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Ramdas]

On 1/17/07, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ramdas wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> A very newbie question. Might be discussed earlier, please forgive.

Are so much of a noob that STFW is not within your capabilities?
(just thought I'd ask, given that you admit to realising the info *might*
be out there already)

>
> I am having a site in PHP ( not very great design ) which I need to
> convert/modify to use functions. Such the code for connecting /
> binding to Ldap is not repeated & scripts are more readable.
>
> The site deals with modifying / adding / deleting entries in a LDAP dir.
>
> In each of the pages following is done:
>
> 
> require 'validate.php' ;// validate.php checks if the user is loged in
>
> $connect = ldap_connect(ldapserver);
> if ($connect) {
>
> bind ...
> do the things
>
> }else { echo erro..}
>
> ?>
>
>
> Also please advice what is a correct method of checking the user's
> session. Currenlty I use a "HTTP_SESSION_VARS" variable to store the

recommended to use the $_SESSION superglobal instead and stuff values
directly into (after having called session_start()) instead of using 
session_register()
et al.

> user's login & passwd . Each time the user hits the page these vars

you only need to store *whether* they are logged in - and set that value when 
you
actually handle a login attempt (obviously storing their username could be 
handy)

I don't see any reason to store the passwd and validate against ldap on
every request ... in fact I believe that storing the pwd in such a way is 
essentially less
secure.

> are checked with the existing values in the LDAP (this is done by
> validate.php).
>
> Please suggest me some good starting point where I can start a fresh
> with more compact/cleaner Code.

that question is about as vague as 'how long is a chinaman?'
(the answer to that question being 'yes he is')

here are some very vague ideas/functions:

an include file ...
=== 8< =


an 'init' include file
=== 8< =


any other file (other than the login 'page')
=== 8< =




Thanx for the all responses.

Regards
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Re: [PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Jochem Maas]

Ramdas wrote:
> Hi Group,
> 
> A very newbie question. Might be discussed earlier, please forgive.

Are so much of a noob that STFW is not within your capabilities?
(just thought I'd ask, given that you admit to realising the info *might*
be out there already)

> 
> I am having a site in PHP ( not very great design ) which I need to
> convert/modify to use functions. Such the code for connecting /
> binding to Ldap is not repeated & scripts are more readable.
> 
> The site deals with modifying / adding / deleting entries in a LDAP dir.
> 
> In each of the pages following is done:
> 
>  
> require 'validate.php' ;// validate.php checks if the user is loged in
> 
> $connect = ldap_connect(ldapserver);
> if ($connect) {
> 
> bind ...
> do the things
> 
> }else { echo erro..}
> 
> ?>
> 
> 
> Also please advice what is a correct method of checking the user's
> session. Currenlty I use a "HTTP_SESSION_VARS" variable to store the

recommended to use the $_SESSION superglobal instead and stuff values
directly into (after having called session_start()) instead of using 
session_register()
et al.

> user's login & passwd . Each time the user hits the page these vars

you only need to store *whether* they are logged in - and set that value when 
you
actually handle a login attempt (obviously storing their username could be 
handy)

I don't see any reason to store the passwd and validate against ldap on
every request ... in fact I believe that storing the pwd in such a way is 
essentially less
secure.

> are checked with the existing values in the LDAP (this is done by
> validate.php).
> 
> Please suggest me some good starting point where I can start a fresh
> with more compact/cleaner Code.

that question is about as vague as 'how long is a chinaman?'
(the answer to that question being 'yes he is')

here are some very vague ideas/functions:

an include file ...
=== 8< =


an 'init' include file
=== 8< =


any other file (other than the login 'page')
=== 8< =


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Re: [PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Jim Lucas]

Ramdas wrote:

Hi Group,

A very newbie question. Might be discussed earlier, please forgive.

I am having a site in PHP ( not very great design ) which I need to
convert/modify to use functions. Such the code for connecting /
binding to Ldap is not repeated & scripts are more readable.

The site deals with modifying / adding / deleting entries in a LDAP dir.

In each of the pages following is done:

Change the previous lines to this and then move it to the bottom of the 
file called validate.php
Since you include that on each page, it will then be executed and upon 
failure, stop the script and display a connection error


if ( $connect = ldap_connect(ldapserver) === FALSE ) {
   //display error message and die();
   die("Internal problem, please try back later.");
}

bind ...
do the things

}else { echo erro..}

?>


Also please advice what is a correct method of checking the user's
session. Currenlty I use a "HTTP_SESSION_VARS" variable to store the
user's login & passwd . Each time the user hits the page these vars
are checked with the existing values in the LDAP (this is done by
validate.php).
I would be using the Super Globals for this:  $_SESSION, and don't store 
the password, just the username and something the say that he/she has 
already authenticated and is valid.


Jim Lucas


Please suggest me some good starting point where I can start a fresh
with more compact/cleaner Code.

Many thanx in advance.

Regards
Ram



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[PHP] Php coding help - Newbie question

[Ramdas]

Hi Group,

A very newbie question. Might be discussed earlier, please forgive.

I am having a site in PHP ( not very great design ) which I need to
convert/modify to use functions. Such the code for connecting /
binding to Ldap is not repeated & scripts are more readable.

The site deals with modifying / adding / deleting entries in a LDAP dir.

In each of the pages following is done:




Also please advice what is a correct method of checking the user's
session. Currenlty I use a "HTTP_SESSION_VARS" variable to store the
user's login & passwd . Each time the user hits the page these vars
are checked with the existing values in the LDAP (this is done by
validate.php).

Please suggest me some good starting point where I can start a fresh
with more compact/cleaner Code.

Many thanx in advance.

Regards
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Re: [PHP] Coding Standards Document

[Børge Holen]

On Wednesday 22 November 2006 16:31, tedd wrote:
> At 7:14 PM -0500 11/21/06, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 16:19 -0500, tedd wrote:
> >>  It seems that every time I ask a security question, I find that I'm
> >>  currently practicing the answers to avoid the pit-falls.
> >
> >Except that one time when his site got defaced... that was news ;) ;)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Rob.
>
> Rob:
>
> Good point, but that was a problem my host had and not something that
> was my fault. It seems that everyone who hosted with that company had
> every file that even contained the word" index" replaced. I keep a
> redirect index in every folder, so I had well over 200 indexes to
> replace -- joy, joy.
>
> Since then, that host has not answered any of my emails, but I can't
> complain too much because I use very inexpensive hosts for my test
> sites.
>
> You see, I'm at the other end of the spectrum than you guys. You can
> afford high-priced host, but I can't -- you probably can't guess as
> to how cheap I can buy hosting -- it's unbelievable.

Everyone can setup a cheapass old pentium to use as a testhost.
These crappy hostings sites never put in any finecrafted unix tools nor any 
ssh support.
Anyway, point is: Its free

>
> However, when it comes to providing a client with a host, that's a
> different matter and it's their cost,not mine -- for I can (and do)
> work with much less.
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
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Re: [PHP] Coding Standards Document

[Robert Cummings]

On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 10:31 -0500, tedd wrote:
> At 7:14 PM -0500 11/21/06, Robert Cummings wrote:
> >On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 16:19 -0500, tedd wrote:
> >>  It seems that every time I ask a security question, I find that I'm
> >>  currently practicing the answers to avoid the pit-falls.
> >
> >Except that one time when his site got defaced... that was news ;) ;)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Rob.
> 
> Rob:
> 
> Good point,

Just some friendly ribbing :D

>  but that was a problem my host had and not something that 
> was my fault. It seems that everyone who hosted with that company had 
> every file that even contained the word" index" replaced. I keep a 
> redirect index in every folder, so I had well over 200 indexes to 
> replace -- joy, joy.

That took 10 seconds to replace right? If it took you an afternoon you
might be maintaining things wrong... but then I guess it depend son
whether your host gives you SSH access or just ftp. I would never go
with an ftp only host. If for some ungodly reason I did, you can be sure
I'd have an expect script to migrate the whole site hands free :)

> Since then, that host has not answered any of my emails, but I can't 
> complain too much because I use very inexpensive hosts for my test 
> sites.
> 
> You see, I'm at the other end of the spectrum than you guys. You can 
> afford high-priced host, but I can't -- you probably can't guess as 
> to how cheap I can buy hosting -- it's unbelievable.

Ummm, I'm no millionaire... yet... I host my InterJinn site from home.
If you ever wondered why it's so slow, it's not the code... it's this
crud 75k/s upload DSL with terrible latency.

> However, when it comes to providing a client with a host, that's a 
> different matter and it's their cost,not mine -- for I can (and do) 
> work with much less.

I hear ya :)

I have kids, if I don't need it, I don't buy it.

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Coding Standards Document

[tedd]

At 7:14 PM -0500 11/21/06, Robert Cummings wrote:

On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 16:19 -0500, tedd wrote:

 It seems that every time I ask a security question, I find that I'm
 currently practicing the answers to avoid the pit-falls.


Except that one time when his site got defaced... that was news ;) ;)

Cheers,
Rob.


Rob:

Good point, but that was a problem my host had and not something that 
was my fault. It seems that everyone who hosted with that company had 
every file that even contained the word" index" replaced. I keep a 
redirect index in every folder, so I had well over 200 indexes to 
replace -- joy, joy.


Since then, that host has not answered any of my emails, but I can't 
complain too much because I use very inexpensive hosts for my test 
sites.


You see, I'm at the other end of the spectrum than you guys. You can 
afford high-priced host, but I can't -- you probably can't guess as 
to how cheap I can buy hosting -- it's unbelievable.


However, when it comes to providing a client with a host, that's a 
different matter and it's their cost,not mine -- for I can (and do) 
work with much less.


Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] Coding...

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

There are a lot of good books to go by.  I suggest getting one that
incorporates both PHP & MySQL, not just php.

On 11/18/06, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am pretty new with PHP, but what I've learned in the last 3 weeks is
pretty good I think so far!

What I'm looking to do is create a login script, and have people being
able
to login.

Now, I have pulled scripts from sites, and everything is working okay.
But the problem I have with pulling scripts from other sites, is that the
mysql databases are all different.

How can I import from one database into the other, so basically all the
databases are merged into one main?

I also know that each PHP file has to be re-done and look for the new
database name, for instance if it was user_name, and the default (Main)
database is username .. That I Have to rename all the php files that have
user_name to simply username.

If anyone is willing to help out with the project I'm working on with
another programmer? Hopefully being very cost effective .. or free :) :)

Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: [PHP] Coding...

[John Meyer]

I'd pick up a book "Web Database Applications with PHP and MySQL",
otherwise known as the Platypus Book, and use that.  That will teach you
a lot about logins, sessions, as well as using MySQL and PHP together.
As far as the database name goes, that has nothing to do with the PHP
file name.

Jeff wrote:
> I am pretty new with PHP, but what I've learned in the last 3 weeks is
> pretty good I think so far!
> 
> What I'm looking to do is create a login script, and have people being
> able to login.
> 
> Now, I have pulled scripts from sites, and everything is working okay.
> But the problem I have with pulling scripts from other sites, is that
> the mysql databases are all different.
> 
> How can I import from one database into the other, so basically all the
> databases are merged into one main?
> 
> I also know that each PHP file has to be re-done and look for the new
> database name, for instance if it was user_name, and the default (Main)
> database is username .. That I Have to rename all the php files that
> have user_name to simply username.
> 
> If anyone is willing to help out with the project I'm working on with
> another programmer? Hopefully being very cost effective .. or free :) :)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jeff

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[PHP] Coding...

[Jeff]

I am pretty new with PHP, but what I've learned in the last 3 weeks is 
pretty good I think so far!


What I'm looking to do is create a login script, and have people being able 
to login.


Now, I have pulled scripts from sites, and everything is working okay.
But the problem I have with pulling scripts from other sites, is that the 
mysql databases are all different.


How can I import from one database into the other, so basically all the 
databases are merged into one main?


I also know that each PHP file has to be re-done and look for the new 
database name, for instance if it was user_name, and the default (Main) 
database is username .. That I Have to rename all the php files that have 
user_name to simply username.


If anyone is willing to help out with the project I'm working on with 
another programmer? Hopefully being very cost effective .. or free :) :)


Thanks,

Jeff 


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Re: [PHP] Coding Style Question...

[Richard Lynch]

On Mon, October 2, 2006 7:32 pm, Tony Di Croce wrote:
> I am relatively new to PHP... I have about 1.5 years of light PHP work
> under
> my belt... Over the past year or so my PHP coding style has evolved
> significantly and I'm curious as to how experienced programmers write
> PHP...
>
> Basically, here is what I have evolved to:
>
> 1) ALL php code is at the top of the file.
> 2) ALL html code is in a here document at the bottom.
> 3) php code is run before 1 character is outputed (and hence, no
> headers are
> sent, leaving redirects open for possibilities)
> 4) I almost always following my require_once directives with a
> session_start() at the top of the file.
> 5) Often, my forms submit to the PHP page that generated them but do
> so with
> a hidden posted variable. If that variable is set, then I process the
> form
> submission.
>
> I think the most important part of all this is #1 & #2... I think I am
> using
> PHP a little like template engine this way...
>
> It seems to me that I most often see code snippets that try to
> intertwine
> HTML and PHP, but in my experience, except for trivial examples, this
> doesn't work so good...
>
> What do you think?

I do the same, but will mingle HTML/PHP for layout/formatting or User
Interface logic.

And I don't bother with a heredoc, since I find it easier to edit HTML
with the occasional  in it.

E.g., a popup menu of the years from "current" to 10 years into the
future for the credit card expiration is not exactly complex back-end
business logic.  A simple 'for' loop in my HTML to do that is vastly
superior to the "solution" of templates that require hours of
back-tracking through 7 PHP/template/HTML/whatever files to sort out
what the heck is going on here...

And, yes, I *did* once waste hours to find out how they were
generating a 10-year popup for the credit card expiration... Which
they had HARD-CODED the 'start' year in their business logic!!! 
Sheesh!  Back-tracking that through the files turned a 5-minute task
into hours wasted.  And folks wonder why I think PHP *is* a template
language and you shouldn't use another one on top of it...

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Re: [PHP] Coding Style Question...

[tedd]

At 10:23 AM +0800 10/3/06, Glenn Richmond wrote:

I'll probably
get strong opposition for these comments, but in my opinion, there's
nothing worse than mixing two different lanuages in a single file, not
to mention mixing functional code with layout code.

Glenn.


Glenn:

I agree with the concepts of unobtrusive code and the separation of 
content, presentation, and behavior. However, I find it very 
difficult not to mix languages -- for example, trying to generate 
dynamic html from php/mysql without mixing all three languages is 
difficult, if not impossible.


Plus, when php can generate html, css, javascript, and content -- 
it's not possible (by definition) to create language-pure code under 
those conditions.


Also, sometimes mixing languages is preferable (with regard to 
readability) than trying to develop a scheme to separate them.


And lastly, what constitutes separation?  Is an include(), or date(), 
or any php function from within a html, or css, file acceptable? If 
not, what's the cost in readability or lines of additional code to 
obtain the same functionality?


I don't know about others, but the language line is blurred for me. I 
still believe in the "concepts" separation of content, presentation, 
and behavior, but php transcends the other languages in a different 
manner and provides the "glue" to hold them together and make them a 
cohesive functional solution. In my mind, the "concept of separation" 
does not fall clearly along language boundaries.


While this is not meant to demean php, I see php not only as a 
"stand-alone" language, but as an addition to html, css, and 
javascript, which can enhance their functionality. Clearly each of 
those languages can do more with php than without it.


That's my perspective.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Style Question...

[Larry Garfield]

On Monday 02 October 2006 19:32, Tony Di Croce wrote:
> I am relatively new to PHP... I have about 1.5 years of light PHP work
> under my belt... Over the past year or so my PHP coding style has evolved
> significantly and I'm curious as to how experienced programmers write
> PHP...
>
> Basically, here is what I have evolved to:
>
> 1) ALL php code is at the top of the file.
> 2) ALL html code is in a here document at the bottom.
> 3) php code is run before 1 character is outputed (and hence, no headers
> are sent, leaving redirects open for possibilities)
> 4) I almost always following my require_once directives with a
> session_start() at the top of the file.
> 5) Often, my forms submit to the PHP page that generated them but do so
> with a hidden posted variable. If that variable is set, then I process the
> form submission.
>
> I think the most important part of all this is #1 & #2... I think I am
> using PHP a little like template engine this way...
>
> It seems to me that I most often see code snippets that try to intertwine
> HTML and PHP, but in my experience, except for trivial examples, this
> doesn't work so good...
>
> What do you think?

Good habits to form, overall.  Most examples and tutorials are trivial, which 
is why they do the intermingling thing.  To be fair, that was one of PHP's 
original strengths over its competition in the early days (vis, Perl and C), 
because it made doing simple stuff simple.  You didn't need to dynamically 
build the whole page if you only wanted a small bit to be dynamic.  Of 
course, once you get into anything interesting, you frequently DO want the 
whole page dynamic or else templated.  

In my case, I tend to use php-based templates and "theme functions", a style 
borrowed from Drupal.  To wit, I have a function like this (off the cuff, not 
tested):

function call_template($template, $args) {
  extract($args);
  ob_start();
  include($template);
  $output =  ob_get_contents();
  ob_end_clean();
  return $output;
}

$template is then the name of a mostly-HTML .php file where I can use PHP for 
display (mostly just echoing), making it easy to separate logic and 
presentation and build the page piecemeal.  It also means that I have all the 
power of PHP for my template "engine".

Then I also have functions like 

theme_table($header=array(), $rows=array(), $caption='', $attrib=array()) {}

or

theme_unorderedlist($items=array()) {}

So that I can just pass logical data structures and get back fully 
semantically useful HTML.  (Eg, theme_table automatically puts in even/odd 
classes on tr tags for me.)  

Again, credit here goes to the Drupal CMS, which uses a much more developed 
and refined version of this concept.  

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Re: [PHP] Coding Style Question...

[Glenn Richmond]

Hi Tony,

Sounds like a good start. I have to admit that one that I prefer is that
HTML code should be completely separated from PHP via the use of a
templating engine of some sort (I'm a fan of XTemplate). I'll probably
get strong opposition for these comments, but in my opinion, there's
nothing worse than mixing two different lanuages in a single file, not
to mention mixing functional code with layout code.

Glenn.

Tony Di Croce wrote:
> I am relatively new to PHP... I have about 1.5 years of light PHP work
> under
> my belt... Over the past year or so my PHP coding style has evolved
> significantly and I'm curious as to how experienced programmers write
> PHP...
>
> Basically, here is what I have evolved to:
>
> 1) ALL php code is at the top of the file.
> 2) ALL html code is in a here document at the bottom.
> 3) php code is run before 1 character is outputed (and hence, no
> headers are
> sent, leaving redirects open for possibilities)
> 4) I almost always following my require_once directives with a
> session_start() at the top of the file.
> 5) Often, my forms submit to the PHP page that generated them but do
> so with
> a hidden posted variable. If that variable is set, then I process the
> form
> submission.
>
> I think the most important part of all this is #1 & #2... I think I am
> using
> PHP a little like template engine this way...
>
> It seems to me that I most often see code snippets that try to intertwine
> HTML and PHP, but in my experience, except for trivial examples, this
> doesn't work so good...
>
> What do you think?
>

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RE: [PHP] Coding Style Question...

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
What do you think?
[/snip]

I think I'd like an ice cold beer.

I code PHP like I code C++, heavily commented with code designed to fit
the needs of the application. There is a thing in PEAR concerning style
(you can Google it pretty easily) and you will as many styles as you do
PHP developers. 

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[PHP] Coding Style Question...

[Tony Di Croce]

I am relatively new to PHP... I have about 1.5 years of light PHP work under
my belt... Over the past year or so my PHP coding style has evolved
significantly and I'm curious as to how experienced programmers write PHP...

Basically, here is what I have evolved to:

1) ALL php code is at the top of the file.
2) ALL html code is in a here document at the bottom.
3) php code is run before 1 character is outputed (and hence, no headers are
sent, leaving redirects open for possibilities)
4) I almost always following my require_once directives with a
session_start() at the top of the file.
5) Often, my forms submit to the PHP page that generated them but do so with
a hidden posted variable. If that variable is set, then I process the form
submission.

I think the most important part of all this is #1 & #2... I think I am using
PHP a little like template engine this way...

It seems to me that I most often see code snippets that try to intertwine
HTML and PHP, but in my experience, except for trivial examples, this
doesn't work so good...

What do you think?

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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Paul Scott]

On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 16:19 -0500, tedd wrote:
> Perhaps I'm fortunate, but I usually find a way around using Globals. 
> And since I've been coding in PHP, I've never been forced to use them.
> 

Just my 2c...

In our framework, I use globals as well, although I do tend to agree
with Tedd regarding workarounds rather... :)

Something like so:

I create a global to hold the db object (in my case MDB2 or PEAR DB) and
then use a loadclass function to get the dbconfig from another module.
This creates a nice way to easily pick it up wherever its needed. I then
use the factory method to instantiate the db abstraction layer and pass
it, through my "engine class" to an "object class" where I further
abstract the db functions through a central db class. All of the modules
in the system that have database derived classes extend my dbTable
class, thereby keeping everything centralised.

In dbTable class, I evaluate if the db object exists, and if it *really*
doesn't, I create it through the engine. This makes for "lazy"
evaluation of the db object, so that it works kinda on demand, rather
than on every request.

Using this method, I can also use a global error callback method to
handle _all_ database errors gracefully, using PEAR_Error. I do think
that there may be a slight performance hit doing it this way, but in an
app with over 180 000 lines of code (so far) I find it works just
fine...

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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Rafael]

Andreas Korthaus wrote:

Hi Gustav!

Gustav Wiberg wrote:

My oponion is that is insane to use global variables. The main 
drawback with global variables is that is very easy to mix up 
variables, and keep track of what variable belongs to what. So an 
advice: Don't use it!



Ok, so what's your recommendation to solve the problem with using a DB 
class in many other objects/methodes? Think of a DB class:


class DB {...}

And a lot of classes which want to use the DB class:

class Foo {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

class Bar {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

- You can use a global "$db = new DB..." and pass it to every 
class/methode,


- you can make $db "global" in each methode,

- you can create a new instance ("new DB") in every methode (but you 
usually only want a single DB-connection per script, and where do you 
pass config-data to access the DB?) or


- use a factory/singleton, which is not so much better than a global 
variable (and again, what about config-data?).



So what's the way you'd recommend and why?


	IMHO, the only way a global variable would have sense is in an 
environment where you can be assured there's a "DBClass" $db instance, 
and that it would never ever be a $db var that's not a DBClass instance 
nor will $db ever be missing.  So, can you guarantee this at the present 
and to the end of times? :)


	I think it would be better to create an instance of $db whatever the 
script you need it, and pass it to every class-constructor as a 
byref-parameter; i.e.


  $db =& new DBClass();
  ···
  $class1 =& new Class1($db);
  ···
  $class2 =& new Class2($db);

	Now, if you insist on using global vars, then maybe, just maybe, it 
would be better to let that byref-param be optional, and check in the 
constructor for a global DBClass instance $db if no DBClass instance was 
given, but then again the problem would be pretty much the same.  Try 
not to rely on global vars, bear in mind that global vars almost always 
give too little info and do not reflect themselves on the function 
prototype --well, if you have a smart IDE/editor that understand PHPDoc 
comments (or something like that) and you do document their existance, 
it might not be that bad, but still try to avoid them.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[tedd]

So what's the way [using Globals] you'd recommend and why?

best regards
Andreas


Andreas:

I have to agree with Gustav on this -- I very seldom use Globals. I 
might use one for debugging, but not for finished code. Their use 
simply creates problems in porting code, keeping things modular, and 
maintenance.


Perhaps I'm fortunate, but I usually find a way around using Globals. 
And since I've been coding in PHP, I've never been forced to use them.


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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Robert Cummings]

On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 14:53, Andreas Korthaus wrote:
>
> - use a factory/singleton, which is not so much better than a global 
> variable (and again, what about config-data?).

I use a global configuration to register database connection params.
InterJinn uses something like the following:

$GLOBALS['interJinn']['databases'] = array
(
'carnageWeb' => array
(
'type' => 'mysql',
'host' => 'wocmud.org',
'user' => 'me',
'password' => 'noyou',
'db'   => 'carnage_web'
),

'carnage' => array
(
'host' => 'wocmud.org',
'user' => 'me',
'password' => 'notyouagain',
'db'   => 'carnage'
),

'carnageForum' => array
(
'host' => 'wocmud.org',
'user' => 'me',
'password' => 'notyouyetagain',
'db'   => 'carnage_forum'
),

'default'   => 'carnageWeb',
);

This is consumed by the database manager which is a singleton/factory
that uses connection pooling.

getServiceRef( 'dbManager' );

$db = &$mDb->getConnectionRef();
$db->query( 'blah blah blah' );

$db2 = &$mDb->getConnectionRef();
$db2->query( 'bleh bleh bleh' );

$db3 = &$mDb->getConnectionRef( 'carnageForum' );
$db3->query( 'bleh bleh bleh' );

$db->free();
$db2->free();
$db3->free();
?>

In this way all database connections are named such that if something
changes in the future, whether it be the name of the database, the type
of database server, the port, whatever, my code shouldn't need to change
-- only the configuration. Additionally since I retrieve from a pool, I
only ever use as many connections as I need at a time. Be that 1 or 3 or
5. Additionally I know that when I retrieve a second database instance
it's not going to clobber the query from the first request.

I advocate use of the $GLOBALS array for configuration information that
remains static and only when the purpose is clearly defined and well
named such that you can be very sure that you won't run into naming
conflicts in the near future. This is why I use an interJinn sub array
within the globals to segregate InterJinn specific configuration vars.
I'd advocate using constants but they don't support arrays, or at least
not as far back as I maintain compatibility. Why the PHP guys didn't
foresee constant array values is anyone's guess *lol*.

You'll also notice I retrieve the factory/singleton by means of named
service. This avoids most of that interface/inheritance bullshit that
Java gets mired in (and PHP5 has embraced *hahah*). As long as the
expected methods exist then any class can be dropped in as a replacement
via the service registry, whether it extends, implements, burps, or
farts the original class -- or not :)

Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Gustav Wiberg]

- Original Message - 
From: "Andreas Korthaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: ; "Gustav Wiberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce



Hi Gustav!

Gustav Wiberg wrote:

My oponion is that is insane to use global variables. The main drawback 
with global variables is that is very easy to mix up variables, and keep 
track of what variable belongs to what. So an advice: Don't use it!


Ok, so what's your recommendation to solve the problem with using a DB 
class in many other objects/methodes? Think of a DB class:


class DB {...}

And a lot of classes which want to use the DB class:

class Foo {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

class Bar {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

- You can use a global "$db = new DB..." and pass it to every 
class/methode,


- you can make $db "global" in each methode,

- you can create a new instance ("new DB") in every methode (but you 
usually only want a single DB-connection per script, and where do you pass 
config-data to access the DB?) or


- use a factory/singleton, which is not so much better than a global 
variable (and again, what about config-data?).



So what's the way you'd recommend and why?


best regards
Andreas

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Hi Andreas!

I don't have that much experience with classes, but wouldn't it work to:

1. make a connection to the db like $db = , and then pass around 
this variable?


2. Extend the DB - class, so the saveChangesInDb()  - function in the 
Foo-class would be an extension from the DB-class

? (I think this works to extend a class in PHP right?)

3 . Use already existing classes for db...http://www.phpclasses.org/ PHP 
Scripts / Databases


I hope this'll help!

/G

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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Luis Magaña]

I would go for:

- you can create a new instance ("new DB") in every methode (but you
  usually only want a single DB-connection per script, and where do you
  pass config-data to access the DB?) or

This way the code keeps well organized and about the use of only one 
connection I wouldn't worry too much since usually one thread/process is 
created per script called, so if this is a multiuser application you end 
up with several connections anyway, besides I think PHP reuses the 
connections when possible so the performance of your application does 
not seem affected at all.


I use it, works perfectly with big databases and several users.

Regards.

Andreas Korthaus wrote:

Hi Gustav!

Gustav Wiberg wrote:

My oponion is that is insane to use global variables. The main 
drawback with global variables is that is very easy to mix up 
variables, and keep track of what variable belongs to what. So an 
advice: Don't use it!


Ok, so what's your recommendation to solve the problem with using a DB 
class in many other objects/methodes? Think of a DB class:


class DB {...}

And a lot of classes which want to use the DB class:

class Foo {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

class Bar {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

- You can use a global "$db = new DB..." and pass it to every 
class/methode,


- you can make $db "global" in each methode,

- you can create a new instance ("new DB") in every methode (but you 
usually only want a single DB-connection per script, and where do you 
pass config-data to access the DB?) or


- use a factory/singleton, which is not so much better than a global 
variable (and again, what about config-data?).



So what's the way you'd recommend and why?


best regards
Andreas



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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Andreas Korthaus]

Hi Gustav!

Gustav Wiberg wrote:

My oponion is that is insane to use global variables. The main drawback 
with global variables is that is very easy to mix up variables, and keep 
track of what variable belongs to what. So an advice: Don't use it!


Ok, so what's your recommendation to solve the problem with using a DB 
class in many other objects/methodes? Think of a DB class:


class DB {...}

And a lot of classes which want to use the DB class:

class Foo {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

class Bar {
  function saveChangesInDb() {...}
}

- You can use a global "$db = new DB..." and pass it to every class/methode,

- you can make $db "global" in each methode,

- you can create a new instance ("new DB") in every methode (but you 
usually only want a single DB-connection per script, and where do you 
pass config-data to access the DB?) or


- use a factory/singleton, which is not so much better than a global 
variable (and again, what about config-data?).



So what's the way you'd recommend and why?


best regards
Andreas

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Re: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Gustav Wiberg]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Steudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: [PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce



I was wondering what the general rule on using the global driective versus
passing in a variable by reference, why you should or shouldn't, etc.

e.g.

function ()
{
   global $db;

   $res =& $db->query( "SQL");
}

or

function ( &$db )
{

   $res =& $db->query( "SQL");
}

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Hi!

My oponion is that is insane to use global variables. The main drawback with 
global variables is that is very easy to mix up variables, and keep track of 
what variable belongs to what. So an advice: Don't use it!


/G

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[PHP] Coding Practice: Use global $var or pass in by refernce

[Mark Steudel]

I was wondering what the general rule on using the global driective versus
passing in a variable by reference, why you should or shouldn't, etc.
 
e.g.
 
function ()
{
global $db;
 
$res =& $db->query( "SQL");
}
 
or
 
function ( &$db )
{
 
$res =& $db->query( "SQL");
}

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[PHP] Improving my PHP coding

[Todd Cary]

Though my applications run in a high profile environment (national class 
action lawsuits e.g. Enron, Microsoft, etc.), my coding style is ages 
old, and even then, primitive.  If there is anyone who has the time to 
help me bring my coding up to 2005 standards, off line, I would 
appreciate it.


With appreciation

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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Justin French]

On 07/12/2004, at 6:50 AM, Al wrote:
Jason Wong wrote:
On Monday 06 December 2004 14:19, Rory Browne wrote:
If I'm not mistaken Al wanted to return something if the thing 
failed,
without having to put it inside an if_block.

I'm watching this with curiosity, because return is a language
construct, and not a function, or anything that has a value.
You can have:
  ... OR $error = "Oh dear";
But the say I see it, eventually, somewhere in your code you need to 
test for it. Essentially you're just moving the test somewhere else.

Essentially, I'm creating warning reports for my users, not code 
errors.  The users can then email the warnings to our webmaster.
That's totally the wrong approach.  Dumping errors to the screen and 
asking the end user to create an email for the webmaster is just a 
fantasy.  99% of users will walk away and never return.  It's bad user 
experience, and it's a crisis point that you're handling badly.

A better plan would be to hide all the errors from the user, log them 
to and error log, automatically email the webmaster, and present a 
simple "something went wrong, sorry, we're working on it" to the user.

They don't need to know anything about mysql, tables, databases, etc -- 
the WEBMASTER does, but not the user.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Al]

Richard Lynch wrote:
Al wrote:
Essentially, I'm creating warning reports for my users, not code errors.
 > The
users can then email the warnings to our webmaster.
Jason Wong wrote:
On Monday 06 December 2004 14:19, Rory Browne wrote:
$result = mysql_db_query($db,"select count(*) from $table")
OR $values['msg']= $values['msg'] . "Could not connect 
to mySQL
Table: $table";

//tech notes and db table stuff
The calling page echoes $values['msg'] in nice red text.

Here's what's wrong with this plan:
#1.
You are exposing the fact that you use MySQL to users.  So malicous users
don't need to figure out that you are using MySQL: They can just start
trying all the MySQL things to break into your server.
As a general rule, you do not want users to know what software/version you
are running.
While this does fall into the "security by obscurity" category, which is
generally not "good" there are compelling arguments for making it harder
for the bad guys to figure out what software you are using.
#2.
They won't.
Oh, sorry.
The USERS will *NOT* email your message to the webmaster.  Oh, some will. 
Most, however, will email your webmaster with oh-so-usefull messages like.
"I was on your website, and I got an error message, and it's broken.
HELP!"

Put the details you need to debug your software in a place where you
webmaster can read them, no matter what the user does to mangle, shorten,
or otherwise ruin the message.
http://php.net/error_log is good for this.
#3.
It's just Bad Form to tell users a bunch of crap they don't understand,
don't care about, and can only be puzzled by.  The message the users see
should be more like:  "Website down for maintenance.  Please try again
later."
The error messages you need to FIX the site are in the Apache log (or your
own logfile) where they belong.

There might be some exceptions to all this -- If you have only one or two
admin people, whom you trust to actually copy &paste the error messages
and send them to you, displaying them on those admin screens is not so
bad.  That user is probably your client who already knows what software is
in use (or can find out easily) and isn't likely to sabotage their own
site, and can maybe be trained to do the right thing...  OTOH, logging to
a file and giving them a message they understand ("Something broke.  Call
Rich and tell him what you were doing.") is probably better anyway.
I greatly appreciate your taking an interest in my question.
I didn't explain all the details since I was trying to keep my message short.
My users are not public.  They are a few selected individuals who only have 
access via an Apache authentication dialog.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Richard Lynch]

Al wrote:
> Essentially, I'm creating warning reports for my users, not code errors.
 > The
> users can then email the warnings to our webmaster.
>
> Jason Wong wrote:
>> On Monday 06 December 2004 14:19, Rory Browne wrote:
>>
>>  $result = mysql_db_query($db,"select count(*) from $table")
>>  OR $values['msg']= $values['msg'] . "Could not connect 
>> to mySQL
>> Table: $table";

//tech notes and db table stuff
>
> The calling page echoes $values['msg'] in nice red text.

Here's what's wrong with this plan:

#1.
You are exposing the fact that you use MySQL to users.  So malicous users
don't need to figure out that you are using MySQL: They can just start
trying all the MySQL things to break into your server.

As a general rule, you do not want users to know what software/version you
are running.

While this does fall into the "security by obscurity" category, which is
generally not "good" there are compelling arguments for making it harder
for the bad guys to figure out what software you are using.

#2.
They won't.
Oh, sorry.
The USERS will *NOT* email your message to the webmaster.  Oh, some will. 
Most, however, will email your webmaster with oh-so-usefull messages like.
"I was on your website, and I got an error message, and it's broken.
HELP!"

Put the details you need to debug your software in a place where you
webmaster can read them, no matter what the user does to mangle, shorten,
or otherwise ruin the message.

http://php.net/error_log is good for this.

#3.
It's just Bad Form to tell users a bunch of crap they don't understand,
don't care about, and can only be puzzled by.  The message the users see
should be more like:  "Website down for maintenance.  Please try again
later."

The error messages you need to FIX the site are in the Apache log (or your
own logfile) where they belong.



There might be some exceptions to all this -- If you have only one or two
admin people, whom you trust to actually copy &paste the error messages
and send them to you, displaying them on those admin screens is not so
bad.  That user is probably your client who already knows what software is
in use (or can find out easily) and isn't likely to sabotage their own
site, and can maybe be trained to do the right thing...  OTOH, logging to
a file and giving them a message they understand ("Something broke.  Call
Rich and tell him what you were doing.") is probably better anyway.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Al]

Jason Wong wrote:
On Monday 06 December 2004 14:19, Rory Browne wrote:
If I'm not mistaken Al wanted to return something if the thing failed,
without having to put it inside an if_block.
I'm watching this with curiosity, because return is a language
construct, and not a function, or anything that has a value.

You can have:
  ... OR $error = "Oh dear";
But the say I see it, eventually, somewhere in your code you need to test for 
it. Essentially you're just moving the test somewhere else.


Essentially, I'm creating warning reports for my users, not code errors.  The 
users can then email the warnings to our webmaster.

Here's what I ended up with:

@$host_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw) 
		OR $values['msg']= $values['msg'] . "Could not connect to mySQL host ";
	   
	
	if($host_link){
		$db_link= mysql_select_db($db, $host_link)
			OR $values['msg']= $values['msg'] . "Could not connect to mySQL DB: $db";
	}
	
	if($host_link AND $db_link){
		$result = mysql_db_query($db,"select count(*) from $table")
			OR $values['msg']= $values['msg'] . "Could not connect to mySQL Table: $table";
	}
	if($host_link AND $db_link AND $result){
	
	$values['num_records'] = ($result>0) ? mysql_result($result,0,0) : 0;
		
	}//end if
		
	return $values;		//tech notes and db table stuff
The calling page echoes $values['msg'] in nice red text.
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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Richard Lynch]

Al wrote:
> I've searched the PHP manual and can't find an answer for this question
>
> I'd like to use the "OR DIE" construct; but instead of "DIE" I'd like to
> use
> "RETURN FOO". I haven't found a way to do it.
>
>
> $string= file_get_contents($filename)
>   OR die("Could not read file");
>
> $db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw)
> OR die("Could not connect: " . mysql_error());
>
> Seems like it would be nice to not have to test first, e.g.,
> if(is_readable($filename)){ }

You may want to use:

or http://php.net/exit
or http://php.net/return

I will not guarantee that either will work, much less do what you want,
which I don't really understand in the first place.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Jason Wong]

On Monday 06 December 2004 14:19, Rory Browne wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken Al wanted to return something if the thing failed,
> without having to put it inside an if_block.
>
> I'm watching this with curiosity, because return is a language
> construct, and not a function, or anything that has a value.

You can have:

  ... OR $error = "Oh dear";

But the say I see it, eventually, somewhere in your code you need to test for 
it. Essentially you're just moving the test somewhere else.

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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Rory Browne]

If I'm not mistaken Al wanted to return something if the thing failed,
without having to put it inside an if_block.

I'm watching this with curiosity, because return is a language
construct, and not a function, or anything that has a value.

I could probably have said that better sober, and not at 06:16am, but
hopefully  you get my drift.

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:11:26 +1000, Ligaya Turmelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  > $db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw)
>  >OR die("Could not connect: " . mysql_error());
> 
> 
> try:
> $db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw);
> if (!$db_link){
> // do whatever if there is something wrong
> }
> 
> maybe try something like that with the file_get_contents also?
> 
> Respectfully,
> Ligaya Turmelle
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> Al wrote:
> > I've searched the PHP manual and can't find an answer for this question
> >
> > I'd like to use the "OR DIE" construct; but instead of "DIE" I'd like to
> > use "RETURN FOO". I haven't found a way to do it.
> >
> >
> > $string= file_get_contents($filename)
> > OR die("Could not read file");
> >
> > $db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw)
> >OR die("Could not connect: " . mysql_error());
> >
> > Seems like it would be nice to not have to test first, e.g.,
> > if(is_readable($filename)){ }
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: [PHP] Coding Question

[Ligaya Turmelle]

> $db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw)
>OR die("Could not connect: " . mysql_error());

try:
$db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw);
if (!$db_link){
   // do whatever if there is something wrong
}
maybe try something like that with the file_get_contents also?
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Al wrote:
I've searched the PHP manual and can't find an answer for this question
I'd like to use the "OR DIE" construct; but instead of "DIE" I'd like to 
use "RETURN FOO". I haven't found a way to do it.

$string= file_get_contents($filename)
OR die("Could not read file");
$db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw)
   OR die("Could not connect: " . mysql_error());
Seems like it would be nice to not have to test first, e.g., 
if(is_readable($filename)){ }

Thanks

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[PHP] Coding Question

[Al]

I've searched the PHP manual and can't find an answer for this question
I'd like to use the "OR DIE" construct; but instead of "DIE" I'd like to use 
"RETURN FOO". I haven't found a way to do it.

$string= file_get_contents($filename)
OR die("Could not read file");
$db_link= mysql_connect($host, $user, $pw)
   OR die("Could not connect: " . mysql_error());
Seems like it would be nice to not have to test first, e.g., 
if(is_readable($filename)){ }

Thanks
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Re: [PHP] Coding Blues - Parse Error

[Oliver Kurz]

Hello Yusuf,

>  Class fl_SQL
> {
>  var $server;
>  var $user;
>  var $pass;
> 
>  var $connection;
>  var $db;
> 
>  var $query;
>  var $record;
>  var $tlist;
>  }

The bracket is wrong. Your class only has properties but no methods. 
 
> Function fl_SQL($server, $user, $pass, $db = NULL) {
>  $this->server = $server;
>  $this->user = $user;
>  $this->pass = $pass;
>  $this->db = $db;
> }
> 
> Function doconnect($db = $this->db){
>  $this->db = $db

Missing ;

>  $this->connection = mysql_connect($this->server, $this->user, 
> $this->pass);
>  if (!$this->connect) die ("Could not connect to server!");

$this->connect??? Do you mean $this->connection?

>  mysql_select_db($this->db,$this->connection) or die ("Could not 
> connect to database!");
> }
> 
> Function doquery($query, $db = $this->db){
>  $this->db = $db

Missing ;
>  $this->connect($this->db);

Do you mean $this->doconnect?

>  $this->query = $query
>  mysql_query($this->query,$this->connect)

And again: Do you mean $this->connection?

> }
> 
> }

Their is the right bracket for the class definition.
 
> ?>

Also your default-values for the method-parameters have to be constant. So ... try it 
like in your constructor. And check it with an if-statement. 
And also ... check the names of your properties and methods. It looks like there is a 
big mess.

So long,

Oliver


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Re: [PHP] Coding Blues - Parse Error

[John Holmes]

Dan Joseph wrote:
	You don't have a ; at the end of the line.  You have $this->db =
$db and you should have $db;.  
Also, this:
> Function doquery($query, $db = $this->db){
is causing your error. The default value must be a constant expression, 
not a variable, function, method, etc...

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RE: [PHP] Coding Blues - Parse Error

[Dan Joseph]

Hi,

You don't have a ; at the end of the line.  You have $this->db =
$db and you should have $db;.  

-Dan Joseph

-Original Message-
From: Yusuf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] Coding Blues - Parse Error

Hello. I am writing some code, but though everything seems ok, I get the

same error:
"parse error, unexpected T_VARIABLE on line 23" .

Here is the code:

server = $server;
$this->user = $user;
$this->pass = $pass;
$this->db = $db;
}

Function doconnect($db = $this->db){
$this->db = $db
$this->connection = mysql_connect($this->server, $this->user, 
$this->pass);
if (!$this->connect) die ("Could not connect to server!");
mysql_select_db($this->db,$this->connection) or die ("Could not 
connect to database!");
}

Function doquery($query, $db = $this->db){
$this->db = $db
$this->connect($this->db);
$this->query = $query
mysql_query($this->query,$this->connect)
}

}

?>


Can anyone please help me?

Thanking you in anticipation,
Yusuf

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[PHP] Coding Blues - Parse Error

[Yusuf]

Hello. I am writing some code, but though everything seems ok, I get the 
same error:
"parse error, unexpected T_VARIABLE on line 23" .

Here is the code:

   var $connection;
   var $db;
   var $query;
   var $record;
   var $tlist;
   }
Function fl_SQL($server, $user, $pass, $db = NULL) {
   $this->server = $server;
   $this->user = $user;
   $this->pass = $pass;
   $this->db = $db;
}
Function doconnect($db = $this->db){
   $this->db = $db
   $this->connection = mysql_connect($this->server, $this->user, 
$this->pass);
   if (!$this->connect) die ("Could not connect to server!");
   mysql_select_db($this->db,$this->connection) or die ("Could not 
connect to database!");
}

Function doquery($query, $db = $this->db){
   $this->db = $db
   $this->connect($this->db);
   $this->query = $query
   mysql_query($this->query,$this->connect)
}
}
?>
Can anyone please help me?
Thanking you in anticipation,
Yusuf
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Re: [PHP] Re: php coding software

[Jordi Canals]

Oliver John V. Tibi wrote:
in addition to brad's post, does anyone know of coding software that
supports team development environments and/or a versioning server for
windows?
I use Zend Studio wich provides CVS integration. But I'm sure you will 
find some others with CVS support. If not, I will recommend you to get 
WinCVS wich provides a nice and easy-to-use CVS interface. (And you can 
get CVSnt for a Windows based CVS server).

Regards.
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[PHP] Re: php coding software

[Oliver John V. Tibi]

in addition to brad's post, does anyone know of coding software that
supports team development environments and/or a versioning server for
windows?

TIA!

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RE: [PHP] Re: php coding software

[Vail, Warren]

For what it's worth, I use HTML-Kit as well.  Feature I like best is the
ability to seamlessly edit content of remote sites and local (folder based)
sites.

Warren Vail


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Subject: [PHP] Re: php coding software


Brad

I use HTML-Kit for HTML, ASP, Java, CSS, PHP and MySQL.

Free too :)

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> Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently 
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> MySQL support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on 
> to my webserver. Please help! :o
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[PHP] Re: php coding software

[Harlequin]

Brad

I use HTML-Kit for HTML, ASP, Java, CSS, PHP and MySQL.

Free too :)

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> DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
> support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
> webserver. Please help! :o
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[PHP] Re: php coding software

[Chris Martin]

Jordi Canals wrote:
Brad Ciszewski wrote:
Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently use
DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
webserver. Please help! :o

Sorry, but you're wrong. Dreamweaver DOES have MySQL support and can 
connect to MySQL databases to help coding your scripts.

Yes. PHP and MySQL is supported in DWMX, no extensions required.
FTPEdit and HTMLKit are both free editors for Windows
Quanta and Bluefish are excellent on GNU/Linux
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Re: [PHP] php coding software

[Jordi Canals]

Brad Ciszewski wrote:
Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently use
DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
webserver. Please help! :o
Sorry, but you're wrong. Dreamweaver DOES have MySQL support and can 
connect to MySQL databases to help coding your scripts.

BTW, I use Zend Studio, and If I'm not wrong, they have a personal 
edition for free.

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Re: [PHP] php coding software

[Paul Kain]

php expert editor

VERY nice

look it up at http://www.ankord.com/

$35 though but worth it.



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> Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently use
> DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
> support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
> webserver. Please help! :o
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Re: [PHP] php coding software

[John Nichel]

Brad Ciszewski wrote:
Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently use
DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
webserver. Please help! :o

For example: One of the repeatedly discussed  question in the list is 
"Best PHP editor". Everyone has his/her favourite editor. You can get 
all the opinions by going through the list archives. If you want a 
chosen list try this link : http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/phpeditors/


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Re: [PHP] php coding software

[Matt M.]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 09:26:18 -0500, Brad Ciszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently use
> DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
> support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
> webserver. Please help! :o
> 


I have never tried it but there is dreamweaver extensions:

http://www.interaktonline.com/products/PHAkt/

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[PHP] php coding software

[Brad Ciszewski]

Does anyone know any good software for PHP/mysql coding? I currently use
DreamWeaver MX, however it doesn't have much PHP support, and no MySQL
support. I just want an easy program to script in, and upload on to my
webserver. Please help! :o

Re: [PHP] Coding Advice

[Matt M.]

> I am writing an app and right now im working on code that will display x
> number of items on one page, and if there is overflow, provide a link to
> the next.  The url coming into the page looks something like:
> 
> projects.php?action=view&completed=no&start=0
> 
> My code so far, i just took the $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] and added
> start=newstart to the end.
> 
> The problem is, i will eventually get a string thats very long, ebcause
> start keeps appending onto the end.  What is the easiest way to preserve
> projects.php?action=view&completed=no and be able to add start=somenumber
> to the end?


if you only need to pass 2 other variables, why not just build the
query string from scratch each time?

you could always do a string replacement on start=whatever instead of
just appending it to the end each time.

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[PHP] Coding Advice

[Aaron Axelsen]

Hello,

I am writing an app and right now im working on code that will display x
number of items on one page, and if there is overflow, provide a link to
the next.  The url coming into the page looks something like:

projects.php?action=view&completed=no&start=0

My code so far, i just took the $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] and added
start=newstart to the end.

The problem is, i will eventually get a string thats very long, ebcause
start keeps appending onto the end.  What is the easiest way to preserve
projects.php?action=view&completed=no and be able to add start=somenumber
to the end?

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Re: [PHP] Coding productivity benchmarks?

[Derrick fogle]

On Jun 7, 2004, at 11:39 AM, Tyler Replogle wrote:
I just did all of that and it took me 1 hour and 35 mins
Just for grins and giggles, why don't I post the exact assignment specs?
FYI, I've never really had to deal with file uploads and downloads 
before. It probably took me to an hour to research PHP file 
upload/download/MySQL storage, and get that part working. I could do it 
much faster next time ;-)

As for the layout issue, I suppose that's my big 'weak point' as a 
developer. The templates I started from have a basic interface 
structure already, so I went ahead and developed the code and the basic 
interface together. That took extra time beyond just puking out the 
bare minimum. I've spent so many years doing database development for 
customers that I view the real functionality of an application by how 
the interface looks and acts more than how the underlying code is 
written. I just can't see the forest for the trees, and I can't see a 
functional web app without an interface that matches the workflow.

Anyway, here's the actual assignment specs:

XXX Company is publishing an on-line journal and needs to provide a 
system for electronic manuscript management with the following 
features:
1. All submitted documents should be able to be uploaded and downloaded 
in word format.
2. There should be 3 user roles: Author, Reviewer and Editor
3. There should be a way for a new user to register as either one of 
the 3 roles. During registration, the new user should be able to enter 
first and last name, e-mail address and what kind of user he wishes to 
be (author, reviewer or editor).
4. When a user logs in to the system, he should be presented with a 
screen, depending on what role he has in the system.
  a. As an editor, the user should be able to delete a user, change 
registration information of any user, view the status of each submitted 
article, view reviewer suggestions, accept or decline an article for 
publication, or assign it to a reviewer for review.
  b. As a reviewer, the user should be able to download a submitted 
article to review and recommend the article for publication or not.
  c. As an author, the user should be able to submit a file.
5. An article can have one of these states:
  a. Submitted (after submission)
  b. In review (after reviewers are assigned)
  c. Accepted (if accepted by the editor)
  d. Declined (if declined by the editor)
6. A typical workflow should consist of the following states:
  a. An author submits an article. The article status becomes 
“submitted”. The editor may view the article (by downloading it) or 
assign it to a reviewer.
  b. An editor assigns an article to a reviewer. The article status 
becomes “in review”. The reviewer may now download the article and he 
may also suggest accepting it or declining it.
  c. A reviewer makes a suggestion. The article status remains “in 
review”. The editor may now view the suggestion of the reviewer and he 
may also accept or decline the article.
  d. An editor accepts or declines an article. The article status 
becomes “accepted” or “declined” accordingly.


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RE: [PHP] Coding productivity benchmarks?

[Tyler Replogle]

hey,
I just did all of that and it took me 1 hour and 35 mins, but I edited the 
code that i had already made from site before. It didn't take my anywhere 
near 4 hours, but there is no way i could do it in 40 mins.



From: Derrick fogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PHP] Coding productivity benchmarks?
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 09:51:20 -0500

I've been searching around for productivity benchmarks for PHP programming. 
The only references I can find for it are in for-pay publications.

I've ended up becoming a PHP developer more out of happenstance than 
anything. I've been doing it for a couple of years now, but... I don't 
really know how 'good' I am at it. The place I work has always had 
extremely unreasonable expectations for worker productivity, and I'm trying 
to fight that.

I've recently been called into another job interview, and part of the 
interview is a coding assignment. Some of the documentation suggests that 
this assignment should take about 40 minutes.  A rough overview of the 
'assignment' - a simple Document Management System - is:
 * new user registration and existing user login
 * admin-level user management
 * document upload and download
 * review and suggestion
 * a conditional matrix of 5 document conditions vs 3 user levels
 * 6 input forms
 * 2 listing layouts with fix sorting
 * conditional access to changing document conditions based on user levels

It took me about 4 hours to completely satisfy and debug the assignment 
specs with an OK interface. This was with plenty of code copy/modification 
from other web apps I've done before, or other online resources. I ended up 
spending nearly 4 more hours futzing around with the interface to get 
something really nice.

So, am I just a pretender? Are there people out there that can really bust 
out a basic DMS in 40 minutes?

If anyone does have some basic PHP programmer productivity benchmarks, or 
knows where I can get ahold of them, I'd sure appreciate it. This issue of 
productivity expectations has really gotten under my skin, and I need to 
know whether or not I should be doing this for a living.

Thanks,
-Derrick
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Re: [PHP] Coding productivity benchmarks?

[Brent Baisley]

Nothing in the specs you listed mentioned anything about a pretty, 
intuitive GUI interface.  Drop a nice interface requirement and that 
cuts your time considerably. Forget trying to design an "event driven" 
interface and drop back on the old mainframe menu driven interface with 
one option per screen. Then you just need to design some generic code 
that spits out some fields with labels and a continue/save or cancel 
button.
"Tests" like these are usually looking more for coding talent and 
technique (i.e. code reuse, object orientation, readability, MVC, etc.) 
rather than interface design talent. They're most likely trying to 
separate the web front end people from the back end people.

On Jun 7, 2004, at 10:51 AM, Derrick fogle wrote:
I've been searching around for productivity benchmarks for PHP 
programming. The only references I can find for it are in for-pay 
publications.

I've ended up becoming a PHP developer more out of happenstance than 
anything. I've been doing it for a couple of years now, but... I don't 
really know how 'good' I am at it. The place I work has always had 
extremely unreasonable expectations for worker productivity, and I'm 
trying to fight that.

I've recently been called into another job interview, and part of the 
interview is a coding assignment. Some of the documentation suggests 
that this assignment should take about 40 minutes.  A rough overview 
of the 'assignment' - a simple Document Management System - is:
 * new user registration and existing user login
 * admin-level user management
 * document upload and download
 * review and suggestion
 * a conditional matrix of 5 document conditions vs 3 user levels
 * 6 input forms
 * 2 listing layouts with fix sorting
 * conditional access to changing document conditions based on user 
levels

It took me about 4 hours to completely satisfy and debug the 
assignment specs with an OK interface. This was with plenty of code 
copy/modification from other web apps I've done before, or other 
online resources. I ended up spending nearly 4 more hours futzing 
around with the interface to get something really nice.

So, am I just a pretender? Are there people out there that can really 
bust out a basic DMS in 40 minutes?

If anyone does have some basic PHP programmer productivity benchmarks, 
or knows where I can get ahold of them, I'd sure appreciate it. This 
issue of productivity expectations has really gotten under my skin, 
and I need to know whether or not I should be doing this for a living.

Thanks,
-Derrick
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Re: [PHP] Coding productivity benchmarks?

[Richard Davey]

Hello Derrick,

Monday, June 7, 2004, 3:51:20 PM, you wrote:

Df> So, am I just a pretender? Are there people out there that can really
Df> bust out a basic DMS in 40 minutes?

I would say that there probably are - but you'd have to question how
robust and well designed their system would be after those 40 minutes
are up. Assuming you weren't allowed to use any external help by way
of PEAR/Smarty/ADOdb/etc then I would have said that building a
friendly system that met all of those criteria in 4 hours is nothing
to be ashamed of.

I'm sorry I don't have any benchmarks for you, but I'd love to know
how anyone could ever create an accurate benchmark for something as
subjective as this anyway. Having worked with PHP for years and
interviewed many people, I would have to say what you were required to
do was quite un-usual and ill thought-out. If they had given you 40
mins to write a document telling how you would approach the system -
that would have been more like it.

This reminded me of an incident where a company local to me was
holding interviews and getting the applicants to actually work on
sites they needed finishing off (basic html stuff) as part of the
interview! Never gave them the job of course, just got them to finish
the projects. Needless to say, they aren't trading any longer :)

Best regards,

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[PHP] Coding productivity benchmarks?

[Derrick fogle]

I've been searching around for productivity benchmarks for PHP 
programming. The only references I can find for it are in for-pay 
publications.

I've ended up becoming a PHP developer more out of happenstance than 
anything. I've been doing it for a couple of years now, but... I don't 
really know how 'good' I am at it. The place I work has always had 
extremely unreasonable expectations for worker productivity, and I'm 
trying to fight that.

I've recently been called into another job interview, and part of the 
interview is a coding assignment. Some of the documentation suggests 
that this assignment should take about 40 minutes.  A rough overview of 
the 'assignment' - a simple Document Management System - is:
 * new user registration and existing user login
 * admin-level user management
 * document upload and download
 * review and suggestion
 * a conditional matrix of 5 document conditions vs 3 user levels
 * 6 input forms
 * 2 listing layouts with fix sorting
 * conditional access to changing document conditions based on user 
levels

It took me about 4 hours to completely satisfy and debug the assignment 
specs with an OK interface. This was with plenty of code 
copy/modification from other web apps I've done before, or other online 
resources. I ended up spending nearly 4 more hours futzing around with 
the interface to get something really nice.

So, am I just a pretender? Are there people out there that can really 
bust out a basic DMS in 40 minutes?

If anyone does have some basic PHP programmer productivity benchmarks, 
or knows where I can get ahold of them, I'd sure appreciate it. This 
issue of productivity expectations has really gotten under my skin, and 
I need to know whether or not I should be doing this for a living.

Thanks,
-Derrick
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Coding Standards

[Justin French]

On 02/06/2004, at 3:00 AM, Justin Patrin wrote:
And I'm one of them. :-) I like the K&R version because it saves 
verticaly space and most editors can't really handle correct tabbing 
when you put it after. IMHO it's just not necessary as ALL blocks 
should have braces, even those that are one-line. If you always use 
the braces,  you can looks for indenting as the open of the block and 
the end-brace (and un-indenting) as the close of the block.
I used to be a big fan of both versions, but honestly, I didn't care, 
as long as an app was consistent, so that one could become comfortable 
with it over time.  The reality is that good editors like BBEdit can 
help match braces, highlight code blocks, etc.

But recently, I've changed my tactic to whatever helps the code be as 
readable and clear as possible...

$file = 'a'; if(file_exists($file)) { include($file); }
$file = 'b'; if(file_exists($file)) { include($file); }
$file = 'c'; if(file_exists($file)) { include($file); } else { 
include('x'); }
$file = 'd'; if(file_exists($file)) { include($file); } else { 
include('x'); }
$file = 'e'; if(file_exists($file)) { include($file); }

is a lot clearer,line-efficient and faster to comprehend than...
$file = 'a';
if (file_exists($file)) {
include($file);
}
$file = 'b';
if (file_exists($file)) {
include($file);
}
$file = 'c';
if (file_exists($file)) {
include($file);
} else {
include('x');
}
$file = 'd';
if (file_exists($file)) {
include($file);
} else {
include('x');
}
$file = 'e';
if (file_exists($file)) {
include($file);
}
Of course, looping through an array of file names would be even 
clearer, but you get my point :)

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Coding Standards

[Justin Patrin]

Travis Low wrote:
Justin Patrin wrote:
Travis Low wrote:
 [I hate K&R indenting]

And I'm one of them. :-) I like the K&R version because it saves 
verticaly space and most editors can't really handle correct tabbing...

Arrggghh...TABS.  Don't even get me started on tabs...
cheers,
Travis
I meant indenting. I won't get into tabs vs. spaces here. ;-)
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RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Coding Standards

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]
>>  [I hate K&R indenting]
> 
> And I'm one of them. :-) I like the K&R version because it saves 
> verticaly space and most editors can't really handle correct
tabbing...

Arrggghh...TABS.  Don't even get me started on tabs...
[/snip]

How many holy wars can be started in one thread legally?

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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Coding Standards

[Travis Low]

Justin Patrin wrote:
Travis Low wrote:
 [I hate K&R indenting]
And I'm one of them. :-) I like the K&R version because it saves 
verticaly space and most editors can't really handle correct tabbing...
Arrggghh...TABS.  Don't even get me started on tabs...
cheers,
Travis
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