Re: [PLUG] Github, pastebin blocked
On one hand, we have people who don't even have the basic concept* of copyright (or even propriety), and on the other, an unholy nexus of greedy media companies and hand-in-glove or plain dumb regulators who will ride roughshod on citizens' rights just to protect petty interests. Then you have the Information Technology Act. Are people willing to take the fight to the opposite camp? It's really tough to get organised, enlist support, and represent with perseverance. Are we willing to invest time, when everyone seems to be so busy and otherwise engaged in productive labours? I don't know. All I expect to see are online petitions that even I would ignore. Regards, Nishit Dave * Overheard at an upmarket mall: C'mon beta, why should we buy that DVD? I'll download the movie for you! Awesome parenting. On 31 Dec 2014 15:21, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Pastebin-Dailymotion-Github-blocked-after-DoT-order-Report/articleshow/45701713.cms ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Github, pastebin blocked
On 1 Jan 2015 01:59, Vikas Tara v...@hamaralinux.org wrote: On 31/12/14 14:19, Nishit Dave wrote: * Overheard at an upmarket mall: C'mon beta, why should we buy that DVD? I'll download the movie for you! Awesome parenting. Rather than C'mon beta, let's buy that DVD for an over inflated price and allow these corporations to maintain the status quo of their backward/dated but high profit generating proprietary media format whilst simultaneously pretending it's all about the poor artists revenue. If you don't agree to their pricing, don't buy it. Has anybody been appointed Grand Vizier of determining who has the right to charge how much, for how long, etc.? To which beta might reply C'mon dad, let's download it instead because eventually the media moguls might realise, give up on their crappy format and create a decent streaming alternative because the technology to do it is already 10 years old If you get out of your fortified little world of pet notions some day, you might realise that the person who finds a DVD to be an unnecessary expense may also find the cost of streaming media excessive, and we aren't even speaking of that other grouse, further curbs on consumer rights under a streaming / digital distribution model. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Why I won't be speaking at FOSSsumMIT 2104
On Aug 12, 2014 1:51 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: The conference being a FOSS conference, everything needs to be under FOSS. It is as simple as that. Well, there could be exceptions if the requirement of the topic needs non-FOSS stuff. Please note that PLUG's stand for FOSS still remains the same. I remember that in one of the Gnunify, I helped a speaker to change his presentation from windows-powerpoint to Linux-Openoffice. I find this stand that a speaker use only FOSS to give a presentation hypocritical and puerile. Isn't it more important for you to know if the speaker used FOSS to develop something? For what it's worth, one could use proprietary tools all the way, and then put screenshots in a presentation on LibreOffice to run on someone's Ubuntu laptop? I could add a car analogy here to belabour the point, but I think you'll get it anyway. Needless symbolism will be counterproductive to achieving your bigger purpose. I hope this movement rises above dogmatism and judging personal choices. Oh, by the way, a helpful hint: if all you need is a presentation, ask the speaker to convert it to a LibreOffice native format and mail it / bring it on a pen drive, which can be read on whatever choice of OS that the organisers have connected to the projector. All the best. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Forwarded:: With deep regret and anguish, I wish to notify about sad and sudden demise of Sunil Beta Baskar
On 9 Dec 2013 01:48, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding mail from Shyam Kundapurkar. Shyam Kundapurkar posted in VALU- VIT Active Linux Users With deep regret and anguish, I wish to notify the members of VALU about sad and sudden demise of Sunil Beta Baskar, a gentle geek who knew the core Linux source in depth. Colossal loss for people in Pune who believe in Linux and Open Source. Really sorry to hear about this. Sunil was a regular and active contributor. My sincere condolences to his friends and loved ones. Nishit Dave ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook
On 23 Mar 2013 08:15, Mayuresh mayur...@acm.org wrote: I have micromax funbook P500, which does not have a SIM, but supports internet connectivity with USB modem. But I don't find an option to share this connection over wifi. There are apps to do that, but apps don't help. They just give an error message that I should enable tethering first. I have done tethering on other android devices, where I see an option to enable it. Does this mean the manufacturer has disabled tethering? (Why would they do so?) Is there any way to enable it? Mayuresh Does the SoC on your tablet support wifi tethering / hotspot functionality? ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook
On 23 Mar 2013 09:09, Mayuresh mayur...@acm.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 08:19:48AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: Does the SoC on your tablet support wifi tethering / hotspot functionality? The product manual doesn't show this feature. How to know whether the hardware does or not? Mayuresh If you can find out the exact component used, its technical details should be available online. IMHO, it is better to invest in a stand alone hotspot, although you'd need an extra charger to be carried around. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook
On 23 Mar 2013 10:18, Mayuresh mayur...@acm.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 09:55:25AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: IMHO, it is better to invest in a stand alone hotspot, although you'd need an extra charger to be carried around. I agree. Is there one compatible with Tata Photon? There is one sold by Tata Photon people themselves. Will found out more on that. Unlikely that it will work with BSNL 3G as well. I think it will be vendor locked. Currently I use android phone to tether BSNL 3G. Mayuresh. It's always better to use one that is not locked to one service provider now. There are many options available now as compared to two years ago. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas)
Really sorry to hear this. Kenneth will be sorely missed by the community. My sincere condolences to his family and friends. On Aug 4, 2012 12:45 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: This is really sad news. Keneth was in touch with the Pune FOSS community and actively participated in the FOSS events like GNUnify, Pycon etc. happening in Pune. He was well known for his FOSS activities, his blog entries and was also active earlier on various IRC channels. His blog is here: http://lawgon.livejournal.com and you can check his brief profile on http://lawgon.livejournal.com/profile We will miss you Keneth. -Sudhanwa -- Forwarded message -- From: Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:20 PM Subject: [ilugd] Fwd: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas) To: ILUG-Delhi il...@lists.linux-delhi.org FYI - Kenneth Gonsalves (known as KG to many of us) passed away this morning. -- Arun Khan As a layman, I would say we have it, but as a scientist I have to say, 'What do we have?' Rolf Heuer, Director General CERN on the announcement of Higgs Boson particle. -- Forwarded message -- From: JAGANADH G Hi All, Just now I got a message that our dear KG (Kenneth Gonsalvas) passed away. He was admitted in hospital due to Asthma attack and passed away today morning. Cremation will be held at ooty on 4th Aug 2012. ___ Ilugd mailing list il...@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] ispunity (unite all your internet connections)
On May 2, 2012 5:48 PM, Arun Tomar tomar.a...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, It gives me pleasure to let everyone know that rubygem ispunity is now available. Already there have been 244 downloads and increasing. IspUnity is a open source software built to integrate (load balance failover) multiple internet connections simultaneously. With IspUnity, you can * Use multiple internet connections simultaneous and get all their throughput * Automatic failover on working net connection if any on the internet connection goes down. * and more IspUnity can be used by individuals or SME or Enterprises. Good, need of the hour! ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Any suggestions for linux distros
On Mar 31, 2012 1:16 PM, S P Kulkarni spk2...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi , Myself newbie to linux and looking for distro which can fit completely after installation on 2 GB pata hd. Can anyone suggest any flavour . ? Yours truly, S Kulkarni If you don't mind downloading a few ISOs, try both Puppy Linux and Ubuntu. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] How to create bootable linux iso image
Just go to http://pendrivelinux.com You'll find a variety of tools there to install a Linux-based or similar distro to a USB pen drive. There are tools for Windows and Linux. If you want to make ISO images from an optical disc on Windows, google for cd2iso. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Tata Docomo 3g Internet on CentOS 6
On Aug 22, 2011 9:12 AM, Pravin Sonawane june.pra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I just installed CentOS 6 on my laptop (Compaq Pressario V3000 series). But I'm unable to configure Tata Docomo Internet 3g on it. Please check if you have usb_modeswitch (or usb-modeswitch) installed, and if not, install it and the usb_modeswitch-data package. If they are not included in the CenOS repos, which is highly unlikely, you can download them from http://draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch. Plug your modem in, wait for a moment for it to settle, then run as root usb_modeswitch -I -W -c /path/to/usb_modeswitch.conf Substitute the actual path in the command above. Check your dmesg output to see if the modem has been attached to /dev/ttyUSB0 etc. or to /dev/gsmmodem. Also check lsusb output to see if the device is listed. Then, modify a wvdial script to use the modem and run it to start your connection. Your username and password both will probably be internet. The number to dial for 3G is *99# usually, and for EVDO it is #777. If usb_modeswitch is already installed and your network manager gui is not providing you the settings for Tata Docomo 3G, you should still update the package so that the latest information is available to the system. HTH ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
[PLUG] Requesting help from expert kernel developers
Hello everyone, Most of you must be aware of the Indian tech startup Notion Ink, which has released its much-awaited nVIDIA Tegra 2 based tablet, Adam, which runs on Android 2.2. You must also be aware that Google has not released the source code of Honeycomb (Android 3.0), claiming that much work needs to be done, but some large hardware manufacturers like Motorola, Acer, Asus etc. already have access, and have released their Honeycomb tablets based on nVIDIA Tegra 2 to a great public reception. The Adam tablet is technically as capable as the rest of the Tegra 2 devices, but it suffers from lack of access to the latest operating system. On the other hand, Notion Ink has been supportive of efforts by hackers to improve upon the device software, which has given us various alternative ROMs, root access, etc. As of now, the community of hackers organised around the forum at http://tabletroms.com is focusing its effort on porting Honeycomb to the Adam and other 'left out' tablets. This work is being done by tweaking the system dumps obtained out of the existing Honeycomb tablets, and so far, there has been substantial progress in getting it to run on the Adam. ( http://tabletroms.com/forums/showthread.php?356-Honeycomb-on-the-Adam-%28Updated%29 ) As you may read on the thread above, there is still lots of work to be done to have a stable system, and much of this concerns the kernel. ( http://tabletroms.com/forums/showthread.php?596-WIP-Honeycomb-kernel-(nv-tegra-2.6.36.3)-for-ADAM ) The community is running short of experienced hands at kernel development, and would like to solicit your help in the kernel development effort. If you are an experienced kernel developer with interest in Android or embedded systems, you could be an ideal candidate. In fact, the community has chipped in to create a bounty for a fully working instance of Honeycomb, with amounts set aside for different aspects of the OS. (http://tabletroms.com/forums/content.php?2-Honeycomb-ROM-Contest) (http://tabletroms.com/forums/content.php?4-Stabilize-the-HC-Rom) We know that the chief motivators for open source contributors are knowledge, community building and recognition, not money. However, it always helps to show our gratitude for your contribution, apart from actually using it. Many members have also demonstrated good spirit by sending donations to student developers and others that have been helping maintain the forum and development out of their own pockets. If any of you feel that the likely end results are worth the effort, please feel free to visit the forum or IRC at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23%23adamrootuio=d4 Best regards, Nishit ps: If you are interested in the device itself, some owners are willing to sell their tablets as they have access to other alternative models. In Pune. ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Recover the formated data from ubuntu
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Nandan Marathe nrmara...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:27 AM, niyas iota niyasi...@gmail.com wrote: DEAR GROUP MEMBERS I tried to install ubuntu 9.10 version, but in process lost/formatted one logical drive of Disk. ubuntu is installed successfuly, in the same logical drive. want to recover the formated data from ubuntu. it depends a lot on the type of partition. there are tools for different partition types which you can use to recover some (if at all) data. -Nandan Try gpart (http://www.brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/index.html) // ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpart) // Real life experience ( http://davelok.blogspot.com/2010/06/great-hard-disk-disaster-of-december.html ) ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] Need a copy of Lucid Lynx
You could buy a copy of Linux For U from an news stand - June 2010 ed. It has a dvd with Ubuntu 10.04 Ultimate Edition respin in live CD mode, and ISO files for the stock Ubuntu, Kubuntu (and xubuntu?) 10.04 releases. On 6/28/10, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends, I am a middle-aged newbie with aspirations to being a linux user. I intend to format my current computer and dual boot it with Winduhs 7 and Lucid Lynx. Can anyone help me get a copy of Lucid Lynx? Any advice would also be helpful. Thanks in advance, Warm regards, Col Ashwin Baindur, CME, Dapodi, Pune 09923454462 -- ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] How to recover data from deleted partition
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Chaitannya Mahatme chaitan...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone , I accidently deleted the first primary partition (didn't have any data on it, was simply boot partition) Now my ubuntu Linux is unable to find secondary partition related information. How do I recover the data on secondary partition . If you haven't written anything on the disk since, try gpart. Read this blog post for more: http://davelok.blogspot.com/2010/06/great-hard-disk-disaster-of-december.html ___ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List
Re: [PLUG] (OT) US court throws out most software patents
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Sarang Lakare [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Slashdot has a much softer view on this: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/30/1959216 Looks like itexaminer is just trying to increase their hits :-) On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Got this news from the IRC just now. Read more here: Much of the patent portfolio of some of the world's biggest software companies has become worthless overnight, thanks to a ruling yesterday by the US patent court. http://www.itexaminer.com/us-court-throws-out-most-software-patents.aspx Ironically, the itexaminer page is aspx. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Open source phone goes mass-market
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Amit Karpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Openmoko has begun shipping its Linux-based, open source Neo Freerunner phone to five newly announced distributors, in Germany, France, and India, says the company. The Neo Freerunner features an open hardware design, and a Linux-based operating system that users are free to modify. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9978560959.html I'll buy it. Would you? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Open source phone goes mass-market
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Chetan Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things are diffcult to judge on 3G, with Govt policy flip-flops heppening so often. I heard about a provider ready (after field-tests in Balgalore) for 3G services in May 2004 Similar stories came each year from almost all providers. Additonal scenarios: a. General Elections are due and decisions may (not?) get put-off, b. the providers may decide to enter in court-battles (the past flip-flops have been due to the contentious nature of the 3G spectrum allocation), c. the providers may not be able to provide painless service at the start These make me personally delay putting money into any 3G technology for the moment. However, it seems 2 years before it will be good enough for 3G in my hands. (My guess. Don't ask me to validate this. I refuse to do that !!!) The large market size may have some catalytic effect and may hasten the process. However, as I said before, it is difficult to guess how it will go. Given the way mobile service providers have been fleecing users for data access, 3G might not be that popular even if launched. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Open source phone goes mass-market
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Amit Karpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Openmoko has begun shipping its Linux-based, open source Neo Freerunner phone to five newly announced distributors, in Germany, France, and India, says the company. The Neo Freerunner features an open hardware design, and a Linux-based operating system that users are free to modify. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9978560959.html By the way, if someone finds out who the Indian distributors are supposed to be, please post it here. I guess there will be a free run on their outlet/s. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Open source phone goes mass-market
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Amit Karpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Openmoko has begun shipping its Linux-based, open source Neo Freerunner phone to five newly announced distributors, in Germany, France, and India, says the company. The Neo Freerunner features an open hardware design, and a Linux-based operating system that users are free to modify. http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9978560959.html By the way, if someone finds out who the Indian distributors are supposed to be, please post it here. I guess there will be a free run on their outlet/s. Awkward as replying to myself would seem, I couldn't resist the opportunity of telling you all that the phone is being marketed in India by: *IDA Systems Pvt Ltd * 11 Uniara Garden Jaipur 302004 +91 141 3243321 http://www.idasystems.net/ This is what their website says: Book the Neo Freerunner NOW http://www.idasystems.net/order. MRP of Rs 2/- includes shipping, all taxes and 1 year warranty along with a 30 DAYS RETURN POLICY IF YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PRODUCT. Ida systems is an Official Reseller of Openmoko Products In India. For more information contact* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] KDE 4.1 anyone ?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Pranav Peshwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Has anybody tried out KDE 4.1 ? Doesn't seem anybody has. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Asus EeePC
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I happened to look at one at croma store in Ishanya mall. I was impressed. Please share your experience if you own one. Is the price justified ? What model? What price? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Fedora 9 (Sulphur) Released
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Pranav Peshwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! Are there any improvements in yum ? The release notes say that the new package manager, PackageKit, which is a replacement for Pirut and Pup has an improved yum as its backend. I, for one, would like to see a better way to manage network connections and proxies through a single environmental setting interface. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] How to return Vista
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Nishit Dave wrote: Sorry to digress from the topic, but I am in London right now, so I was considering going to a nearby toy shop in the evening and checking out the EeePC. Is it worth buying for my daughters or should they stick to my PIV? -- You might be better off buying it in India, unless you know for sure it is real cheap out in UK. It was on offer for GBP 212.75 (approx Rs.16,000) at the Heathrow Duty Free. How much does it cost in India? I am again going to NY in May 1st week, and will be close to the Toys-R-Us megastore. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] How to return Vista
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19-Apr-08, at 10:31 PM, Ameet Gholap wrote: I remember a person in austria or some place like that who rejected the EULA during the 1st boot - was XP. took photos of the rejection and then asked for refund. initially he was not entertained. but a notice from court did the trick, I guess. i read that article few yrs ago. yes - so for vista micorsoft has not provided a reject button Sorry to digress from the topic, but I am in London right now, so I was considering going to a nearby toy shop in the evening and checking out the EeePC. Is it worth buying for my daughters or should they stick to my PIV? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] How to return Vista
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Sujeet Ghanvat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am planning to buy VAIO laptop from USA. But I don't want to buy Windows Vista that comes pre-installed with it. What should I do ? Forget the VAIO. I believe Vista is a co-conspiracy between Sony and Microsoft to force DRM on the world. So good luck with your dreams. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Number 9, number 9. Fedora 9 Preview has been cleared for takeoff
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- __ I tried reading your post backwards, but it read the same. This is too high order for the rest of us. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] GNU/Linux on the move
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12-Apr-08, at 11:45 AM, Ameet Gholap wrote: Asking this quest just for my understanding... How does the speed of the car related to the download speed? if the car is moving towards the tower, the speed of the download is increased by a factor of pi*(speedofcar/distancefromtower). And vice versa. Doppler effect will turn Windows patches being downloaded automatically to FOSS, when traveling away from the tower. Traveling towards the tower will convert that youtube video to pr0n. Sorry. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Fwd: [ilugd] [X-POST] Microsoft lobbying the Government through ``friendly'' NGOs
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay If people don't care enough sooner rather than later content will be in formats that would inhibit sharing. There are myriad reasons why people come together to become part of any movement. However, the folks doing their bit for ODF in India would require every bit of help and coordination to ensure this issue never goes out of sight. Volumes of spin on OOXML is expected and it would take every person concerned with this to spread the awareness Let us find out who these opinion makers are, and start to write to them, individually and together. We also need to put our communication online to ensure nobody can deny it. Steps required: 1. Get contact details 2. Write up a good argument in favour of a single, open standard - ODF 3. Make up a schedule 4. Implement it -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Fwd: [ilugd] [X-POST] Microsoft lobbying the Government through ``friendly'' NGOs
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:45 PM, sudhanwa Jogalekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forwarded message: From: Raj Mathur raju at linux-delhi.org Date: Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:54 PM Subject: [ilugd] [X-POST] Microsoft lobbying the Government through ``friendly'' NGOs To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] My my, hey hey, OOXML is here to stay (with apologies to Neil Young) And if you don't believe that then your friendly neighbourhood NGO is only to willing to try to convince your Government on behalf of one of its benefactors, MS. Now I'm beginning to think that $1.4B was too little :) http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/OpenStandards/MsNgoLobby Also made it to Groklaw somehow. Regards, -- Raju -- Do you think the people here care? Half of them come here to get some tech advice, and move on. The collective voice of the rest is too feeble to be heard. This is futile breast-beating unless all of us come together and start a movement. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaah.. perhaps I've not communicated my real world use cases properly. Why did you have to intervene now? I was gladly enjoying all the fun (if there's something like that triple whammy). -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of free time and of how shy they are about meeting other tech enthusiasts. I sometimes think LUGs take the tech enthusiasts thing too far - scaring away lay users like me who are not interested in programming languages or database administration, but in solving day-to-day computing issues. Usually happens when you have a large number of students participating in the group. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you provide examples of such instances please - with language and menu items where you see English cropping up ? IIRC, Gujarati in Fedora 8, probably also Hindi in Ubuntu Gutsy. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Self Analysis
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Sriram Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lest some students mis-understand what Nishit is saying here: Students are exposed to technology and are students of technology. Consequentially, their focus remains technology. If they were to see how technology could be applied, suddenly they'd start to even study in a different way. While working in Nashik, I once taught a COM/DCOM programming course. Most students had never written much code beyond basic assignments. I was used to having to deal with that having been a mentor for B.E. projects. So when I decided to teach the course, I chose to change the rules a bit. One, every session that we had together comprised of me telling folks how the topic of the day was applied to solve real world problems. Another different thing was with the assignments : I encouraged everyone to copy from each other, and to tell me just what they had to copy and why. It was just fine if the class as a whole sent me a solution, but individuals could send me separate solutions too. This led to a higher degree of collaboration and learning (in my observation), prompted people to speak up and to ask questions, and to set out finding parallels in the real world. People focus on that which they see in front of them. Perhaps it's time for PLUG to try additional things at PLUG meets - what we take for granted (real world problems), may be new stuff for students (apply technology to solve real world problems) :) Well, this deserves a Hall of Fame. Thanks. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible for you to recall the specific menu items ? I have Fedora 8 in dual boot on my laptop. Will upload screenshots after some time to my blog and send a link. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please distinguish between localisation l10n and internationalisation i18n. I am not so thoroughly well-versed in all matters techno-FOSS, but I think localization is a term that gets bandied about freely, and that's what I was talking about. Just another way of putting in my 2c. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: due to people confusing the terms, not much is being done in l10n in India. That is why I would like to emphasise on distinguishing the terms Thanks for the illuminating explanation. My comment was more regarding the so called internationalisation efforts, e.g. in Fedora 8 / KDE / Ubuntu 7.10, where only a very few menu items are changed to Indic languages, and the system as a whole throws up messages in English. In some cases, the keyboard layout is changed to suit the boilerplate language selection, which is actually absurd because the changes are only cosmetic where it counts. If there is a community effort to internationalise the system, IMHO, there should be two teams - one only works on translating all text (and does not have to bother about learning a new keyboard layout), while the other works only on entering it in the source with whatever keyboard layouts and Unicode implementations they choose. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Gcompris in Urdu Launched !!
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was once told by someone that *Shangri-la* is a word related to a location in POK where such a beautiful place exists, and I really wonder how it would look in Urdu! Someone told you wrong. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangri_La By the way, I hope they've done a thorough job of it, because localisation usually has been seen to mean changing *some* menu items to a local language, and no more. This also means there is one more potential customer segment for weaning away from proprietary 'solutions'. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Anyone going for FOSS event in Delhi.
On Feb 19, 2008 11:06 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008 6:56 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Moblin? Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything :D just kidding http://www.moblin.org/ Do you mean I have found the Ultimate Question? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Anyone going for FOSS event in Delhi.
On Feb 20, 2008 8:58 PM, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 42 is the answer. the question is the answer, the answer is the question... so in the end there is only 42... I don't know how you derived it, but an explanation is sure to be found in the Guide. Now to make this thread more on-topic, do you think Douglas Adams liked Linux? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] Anyone going for FOSS event in Delhi.
On Feb 19, 2008 4:05 PM, swapnil kamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anyone who is going for FOSS's event at Delhi on 22nd Feb ? Please reply, I want to hand over the moblin device to Valsa Williams (Moblin) for presenting moblin on that event. -- ...Swapnil What is Moblin? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] BSNL Broadband - Help!
On Feb 7, 2008 6:59 PM, Ranjit Bhonsle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 12:56 PM, Vivek J. Patankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After four months of waiting, I was finally got the BSNL connection. But I still am not able to get it working. The 'engineer' from the BSNL franchisee who came to configure the modem/router keeps saying that it's a problem with the OS (Fedora Release 8 on an Acer Aspire 5004 laptop) and not the modem... blah blah blah. How have you configured FC8?? Give your lan 192.168.1.2 Gateway as 192.168.1.1 start at boot Don't use DHCP for lancard Login does not require @dataone suffix. regards, Ranjit. Have you tried providing the service name dataone (without the quotes)? It worked for me. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] opensouce alternatives..
On Jan 15, 2008 3:50 PM, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2008 13:23, Rohan Dighe wrote: I was basically interested in various categories such as bug tracking/project management/office http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Brochure See the last section of the article. Should meet your requirment, partially. -- This is a wiki, part of Groklaw, but I don't know how updated it would be: http://www.grokdoc.net/index.php/Application_Crossover_Chart -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT]Get FLOSS Software CDs/DVDs by Mail
On Jan 7, 2008 3:55 AM, Anoop John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, We are happy to announce the beta launch of our new public service. You can now request us for any software that is freely available on the internet and which you cannot download on your own because of your bandwidth or time limitations. We will download the software, write the CD/DVD and mail the software to you. As simple as that. The mission of this project is simple - to promote Open Source software among those who have limited internet connectivity. You can read more at http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2008/01/06/request-your-copy-of-cddvd-of-free-software Nice effort. Would be very useful. Thanks! -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux Phones - more questions
On Jan 7, 2008 2:02 AM, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 6, 2008 5:18 PM, Mayuresh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. When the phone is a part of a LAN (using whichever technology - wifi, bluetooth, usb LAN), is it possible to operate (receive and make calls, SMS etc.) entirely from a(ny) computer terminal on the network? Nope. When connected over the LAN a phone behaves like a handheld and not like a mobile phone. In short a phone with antenna turned off. If you still want to give this a shot, try to ssh into the phone and send AT commands from compuer terminal. Also, depending on the phone you might be able to send sms. We have currently built bindings for GSM daemon of openmoko. These bindings let you send sms through a python script as well as dial a call (obviously you cant talk without picking up the handset) More at http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/python-openmoko/ Where can I find consoles for use on the MotoRokr E6, along with installation instructions? Any ideas / pointers? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux based phones.
On Dec 26, 2007 10:55 AM, Pranav Peshwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Does anybody have any experience of using Linux based smartphones available in the (Indian) market ? Google gives a lot of results, but i would like to know real life experiences. Also, how do they compare with 'Windows Mobile' phones ? Any pointers/links/suggestions would be appreciated :) I'm currently using a MotoRokr E6, and my experience has been very good. The phone almost never hangs, has a good feature set (but lacks EDGE capability), and is not expected to catch a virus. It has an Opera min-browser, viewer for common document formats, pdf and images, image editor, Realplayer, reads standard SD cards up to 2GB. I use it as an ebook reader at times. Battery is OK. It was one of the first to offer a standard headset jack, and a mini USB slot for charging as well as access. It has a very few niggles, the major one being a tiny qwerty on-screen keyboard for typing messages - there is an alternative ABCD progression keyboard for searching names etc., but surprisingly it is not available for messaging. This being a touchscreen-only phone, not recommended if you like to use it while driving. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Kingfisher - linux
On Dec 20, 2007 10:18 AM, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One usually seeks conformance to standards! Jet Airways has been using GNU/Linux for its in-flight entertainment systems for a long time. The systems on their 777-300s used for London and New York flights are really great, with a touchscreen based, well laid out navigation system. They are featuring (audio and) video-on-demand unlike the earlier services / others that provide broadcasts and result into your missing one show or the other. The response times are very quick. On my last flight home, they had some problem due to which screens in some parts of the aircraft did not work, forcing them to reboot the system a couple of times. The boot up time wasn't so slow, but I found that they were using something based on RHEL. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [Spam] [was: [PLUG] Tips for property buyer]
On Dec 3, 2007 5:50 PM, Shantanoo Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I hope you have gone through following link before posting. http://plug.org.in/mailinglist.php Can you please help me in understanding how this e-mail is valid w.r.t. 'Mailing List Etiquette' mentioned on the above link? Please note: 1) Yes I know I am using top-posting. 2) Any attempt to spam my mailbox will result in reporting the abuse to Gmail Abuse (abuse at gmail dot com) Don't wait. Report them. These idiots and their kind think they have a sudo right to spam anybody anywhere. They don't follow any etiquette in any other situation either, so why waste our breath? Don't we see them everywhere - bulletin boards, social networking sites? Some years ago, such unscrupulous scoundrels were peddling CDs with millions of email addresses on another LUG. Who approved them, by the way? Give them the Damascus treatment - raze them to the ground. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Please sign the petition against Microsoft's Office OpenXML becoming an ISO standard
On 10/30/07, Aditya Godbole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/30/07, Sarang Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The Free Software Foundation is running a petition to oppose Microsoft's OpenXML from becoming an ISO standard. Wasnt MS shown the door earlier? Or is this something new brewing up? That site also seems to have been taken down. I had thought FSF might just be trying to forestall repeat attempts. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Usual Piques
On 10/25/07, Devendra Laulkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On 10/24/07, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well i got the Daniel Jones english pronuncing dictionary... and wow what a wonder it also has CD which contains audios of all word pronunciations etc... Only (and usual) problems, it requires Windows 98SE to ME (including XP etc.)... Anybody has got any suggestion about dealing with such issues? Did you try wine ? Although I haven't had much success with the same.. but sometimes they do work under wine. Usually there is no problem in running the installer, but the program fails to start up. Have you checked the CD drive letters? The program might be looking for D: and the drive might be mounded as d: That is what I remember from my very very brief experience with Wine. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] muktadnyan [OT]
On 10/23/07, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is even more to it... **gyan** is a gurumukhi or punjabi version of it.. There is also a verse with that word by Kabeer (i think) **कहता है गुरु ग्यानी... *** And in Gujarati it is Gnan - hard pronunciation of the G. Original Sanskrit pronunciation is Jnan (or close, Jnyan) or the soft G. So much Jnan in this thread. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] muktadnyan
On 10/22/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a nitpick, correct way to spell ज्ञान is jnan, not dnyan. So website should be muktajnan.org :) I'm sure ಓಂ will agree :) Thanks for sticking your neck out :) I was afraid with the LUG belonging to Pune, nobody would notice. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] मूक त ज्ञ आन [Silent Expert's Oath]
On 10/20/07, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, I am looking for any pointers on **best practices for search engine optimization techniques** I will goohoo for it, but inputs from Pune Linux Users' Group will be even more interesting I am sure) Is that an ethical practice? Indians are very gung-ho about it, like everything else that lies in the twilight zone. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] legality of restricted formats in India [OT]
On 10/19/07, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, Amit Karpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we are free in India . You are free in any part of the world till caught illegally doing legal things or legally doing illegal things (think of it seriously and you may find some truth in this..). e.g. for thousands of people detained illegally without trial, only freedom is Death perhaps as the time passes? Or think of Guantanamo bay prisoners.. Anyway, without dwelling much into this Off-Topic, only remark I would like to say is **you are free untill caught (and guilty untill you can successfully defend yourself without any outside meaning external help :-). ** Keep politics out of her-oops! forgot this was a GNU/Linux forum. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Talk for free using jaxtr?
On 10/17/07, Aditya Laghate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/17/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anukalp, You fail to realize, that your address book has public mailing list email addresses and that people are not interested in reading advertisements there. The funnier part is that the list moderation rules, simply fail to arrest an advertisment, but on the other hand manage to arrest a regular post to the list!!! /!\ ALERT! Shelfari.com, a site that professes to unite book lovers, asks for your (gmail) account password so it can tell you if any of your contacts are using the service. I wonder how many would fall for this trick. Oh, and there is the standard footnote that tells you they won't store your login information! Small sacrifice for getting access to your address book! Probably that was how I got the invitation mail in the first place. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Surprising discovery... about KlamaV
On 10/15/07, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ಓಂ wrote: On 10/15/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: All antiviruses work out of a database of viruses. What is amusing about that? Do you need Access database for that purpose? No but it is a convenient simple format. And widely understood? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] legality of restricted formats in India
On 10/11/07, Amit Karpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are since patents on software is not valid in India. However win32codecs aren't and you would need to use ffmpeg. Thanks . So we are free in India . Lets hopes India won't accept patents on software . ONE good thing to have come out of leftists in the central government. Well, Softies call us all communists anyway, don't they? ;-) We have to be vigilant, though! Big software or media corporations are constantly trying to introduce and then enforce draconian statutes for so-called IPR protection. We may one day awake to find innocuous but menacing changes to cyber laws, patent act, copyright act, anywhere, and such corporations have the wherewithal to enforce them at will, especially in a country like ours where the legal system is not robust enough to take a balanced or informed view. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Mandriva Linux 2008
On 10/11/07, Vishal Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I was mistaken but to me it looked like the free version was limited and was not made available for download immediately upon release. Only paying club members could download the free version for a while after which the general public got access, and I'm pretty sure about that unless the spam was not from Mandriva. But now that I think about it, I didn't notice any announcement that One 2008.0 is available only to club members for a period and I downloaded the KDE Live CD ISO yesterday so they may have mended their ways? Don't the free version users have to rely on the Penguin Liberation Front repositories for updates and packages? It was so till Mandriva 2007, AFAIK. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Look
On 9/3/07, शंतनु (Shantanoo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, its not compromised. Observe the 'From:' header. :) Ya, ya, I know, haxx0r stuff and all...braggarts ;) I did see the headers before I deleted the post, but didn't know what to look for! -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Request for posting
What's this? Mails going through without approved membership? On 31 Aug 2007 19:30:54 -, chatya arun deosthale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To , Admins of plug.org.in i request you to grant me permission to post on the mailing list.Iwould like to post in order to solve some of my queries and help others in theirs and thus increasing my knowledge about linux and various issues related to it. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Look
heh! got compromised? On 8/29/07, Imelda Samuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New pharmacy shop: http://kcoam.solveparticular.com/?714277367215 -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Why OOXML is bad
On 8/29/07, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devendra Laulkar wrote: --- shirish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can. It merely isn't a default. http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filters http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=204 Somebody should try to replicate the experiments on OOXML with ODF and blog the results. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] a question!
On 7/18/07, ಓಂ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it maybe bit difficult to understand this need and an unusual request for the forum but is there any (internet) resource on pronunceations of words of many languages of the world? something equivalent of babelfish translations but w.r.t. pronounceations.. I am looking for two things... 1. pronouneation of many indian language words and 2. pronounceations of words of many international languages... Currently I am able to use internet to find the archives of words from some of the world languages. I am looking for more Hence any pointers would be really **appreciated** Try about.com, as in http://german.about.com It has German language tutorials, and the initial chapters have pronunciation guides / wav files. I once had a French-English-French dictionary (brick mortar version) that had pronunciation guides and a resource page explaining how certain syllables / guide symbols were supposed to be spoken, but it still assumed knowledge of some basic words in French / English. And as you yourself would have undoubtedly proclaimed on countless occasions, google is your friend. However, only su can help you if you need guides on Indian languages. I assume you have some trouble with French, and to some extent German, but the latter is easier to speak if you can get around the excessively long spelling. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Free Softwares for School
Why are we turning this into a flamewar and fulfilling the prophecies? Sanity could have prevailed if we had only categorized software in the following classes: crippled (shareware), gratis (freeware), non-GPL open source, and GPLed, and in cases that were Windows-only, listed Linux alternatives. Still, my primary suggestion is to unequivocally suggest Edubuntu (or any of your favourite distributions having an education flavour, if you have a good point, but it will only fracture the original one). It may have proprietary drivers, but at least IS Linux. It should be a good start for school students, who needn't be exposed to politics so early. Let them choose gNewsense when they are able to decide for themselves. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Free Softwares for School
On 7/7/07, Anand Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PDF Reader (Acrobat) Office Automation (OpenOffice) ZIP software (7-ZIP) Devnagari Fonts and their keyboard maps Chat client Mozilla Firefox browser CD-Burning IPMsg Antivirus (ClamWin) Audacity (Sound Recording) JRE Tuxpaint (www.tuxpaint.org) VLC (www.videolan.org) Gcompris (gcompris.net) (tuxpaint is included as a package within gcompris) Edubuntu (!) And for Windows, you can also check out 'free' but not 'Free', i.e. gratis offerings like Ray's Letters and Numbers ( http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/RayLec/lettersa.htm) Letter Sounds (www.yourchildlearns.com/*letter**sounds*.htm) Learn Letters (www.yourchild*learn*s.com/*learn**letters*.htm) The suggestions above are largely for young children: pre-schoolers, nursery, kindergarten, what have you. I would love to see somebody develop Free / Libre versions of the last three packages, esp. for Linux. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] software testing - Automation tools
On 7/4/07, Parag Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/4/07, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend has sent the following query. Can anyone help? Sorry for the cross-posting! Hi Nishit, You have not mentioned if he is developing a desktop UI or a web UI. Thanks, Parag! Here's her response: It is a desktop UI based on the Eclipse RCP. What do they have to say about commercial tools like: Silktest Rational Robot WinRunner AccordSQA has anybody heard of FIT? Thanks! At least she is using Eclipse. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [OT] software testing - Automation tools
On 7/6/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The questions look more to be like someone has a requirement for a consultancy. Thanks. It seems like you will make at least one consultant happy! ;-) -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
[PLUG] [OT] software testing - Automation tools
A friend has sent the following query. Can anyone help? Sorry for the cross-posting! Does any of you have any experience with software testing tools? I have to select a tool for automating the tests for a GUI based java application. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] About PCTEL HSP56 Modem Configuration.
On 5/31/07, ॐ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HSP56 Linux string showed links for Linux driver on google. So I believe there is a Liux driver for this modem. Go to http://linmodems.technion.ac.il Look for the latest smartlink driver (slmodem). You should have given full technical description. You probably have the Oasis 688T chipset. It is endemic in India, Brazil etc. due to unscrupulous companies such as Intex. I will not give you the full path, but will encourage you to explore the site. A good experience with google also helps. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [commercial] business proposals / ideas invited
On 5/27/07, jayant ogale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i am having two shops, situated in the heart of the city, on the main road. area is about 650 sq. ft. i am inviting business proposals for the utilisation of the said place. i have some ideas as follows. 1] computer training institute. 2] computer maintenence / repair workshop. 3] periferal and spares retail / wholesale. 4] mobile repairing / training. 5] bank ATM etc. etc. ofcourse, other innovative ideas are welcomed. the proposer should be fully interesed and accept the responsibility to execute the same. fresh graduates looking for some venture can be considered. i am not sure whether this is a right platform for these kind of things. please correct me, if necessary. thanks, jayant. To answer that question, we must first ask: does it run Linux? If the answer is No, then definitely this is not the forum for you. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom Broadband with WRT54G
On 5/29/07, Mayuresh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't so happy with the customer service people. You feel like talking to a machine and at times have to act as if you are following all their instructions such as unplug the card and place it back, click on xyz icon and what not! If you don't, the conversation would just get stuck there. And if you say Linux it will just end! But we can't really get people with networking knowhow on the line. I'm sure it will be hard to get answers to above class of queries from any ISP's customer service. I had the same problem - finally dropped out from VSNL. Another issue with the ACNAME hack is that it is case sensitive. This January, I registered a domain name with VSNL- www.davelok.com. I could not configure it to work with Google Apps. So I rented server space from VSNL and tried to host my site there. Didn't work. Called up customer service innumerable times. They promised resolution in times ranging from '24 hours' to 'some working days'. Never worked. Their control panel doesn't work. You can't get past their call centre to speak to a technical person. In short, VSNL is Teh Suxx0r. They SUCK. I don't know how ISPs with such callous attitude are allowed to operate. I had also threatened by email taking them to consumer court. No reply. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Microsoft says 235 of its patents were violated by F/OSS
On 5/17/07, sudhanwa Jogalekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/07, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For criminal and other such cases, there could be treaties between the countries to handover the suspects. ( eg, recent Argentina case for Quotraochi and other older example of Portugal) In my extremely limited knowledge, I believe that extradition treaties can be enforced either when a) a crime has been committed in the nation that invokes it, and the accused is present in the respondent nation, or b) a 'crime against the nation' has been committed outside the boundaries of the subject nation, while the accused is present in a nation that is a party to an extradition treaty at the time of its invocation. Recently, there have been cases of RIAA demanding extradition of students in Australia for breach of copyright. Australia and Canada have been much maligned recently for allowing DMCA-style provisions in their copyright legislation and their enforcement . We, as supporters of freedom, need to be aware that a nefarious partnership of the likes of Microsoft, Entertainment MNCs such as Sony and our corrupt politicians might be trying to change the rather relaxed regulations we have. Microsoft in particular has been making noises in the media about enforcing copyright protection in India. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Microsoft says 235 of its patents were violated by F/OSS
On 5/16/07, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *think* US patents are valid in India thanks to WTO.. No. The revised Indian Patents Act specifically forbids software patents, or in other words, patents on computer-aided innovations. Thank FSF India for that. This, in my opinion, was the best outcome of having it headquartered in Kerala and the Government in charge of the Centre having a stake there, in addition to a certain leaning of some of its constituents. Ayn Rand's generalizations notwithstanding, socialism is not all bad. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Microsoft says 235 of its patents were violated by F/OSS
On 5/16/07, श्रीधर नारायण दैठणकर [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *think* US patents are valid in India thanks to WTO.. I should rephrase my earlier response as Maybe, but instead of No. WTO cannot enforce an alien patent on what intrinsically cannot be patented here. For example, if it did, you might not be able to perform certain Yoga postures, or grow certain varieties of rice, or use neem or turmeric extracts in indigenous medicine any longer. OK, the US patents on the last two have been invalidated now. See this post on Groklaw about the Indian stand on software patents: http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=displaysid=20050420124923704title=Software%20patents%20stopped%20in%20India-linkstype=articleorder=hideanonymous=0pid=0#c303721 -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [COMMERCIAL] Opening for GTK / PHP
On 5/9/07, mahesh sheth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 PHP indepth knowledge of PHP, Configuring Apache, pgSQL, mySQL 2 GTK / GNOME GTK widgets, embedding browsers in GTK windows, OpenGL, XLib Everybody (including myself, some months back) has been looking for PHP developers. What is the hit:miss ratio on this one? I have heard that it is hard to find PHP-only developers as people tend to move ahead to Java for career advancement, and therefore you only find freshers in this space. Am I right? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [ot] make free - ruin the country.
On 4/27/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sad part is, I haven't been lucky with private players even :( I was able to get connection thru YOU telecom (then it was called Iqara) it worked for a while, then they had permissions issue. Now I have exatt, it has been down since a week, their expert engineer left, and the rest have no clue how to fix their network now. I was promised it will be fixed today. Lets see how that goes. In my other reply to this post, I erroneously mentioned 128 Mbps instead of 128 kbps. My bad. People, please do not get your hopes up. Anyways, I am sure you all would have noticed the typo. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [ot] make free - ruin the country.
On 4/26/07, आदित्य लघाटे [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/07, Vaibhav Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/07, A G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And so if they are not using this service, why should they pay? There may be people who do not use roads at all, why are roads free? Roads are free?? Don't u pay u t taxes??? Public goods may either be financed through cash flows that they directly generate, or be cross-subsidized. In case of cash flow financing, there are two distinct revenue streams - usage charges and concessions / licenses. The Mumbai - Pune express highway that many of you use frequently will not pay back its investment in any reasonable period of time relying on toll tax (licensing) alone. Some of its revenues come from licensing of food malls and petrol pumps along the way. Incremental cost-benefit analysis may also include unmeasurable quantities and other qualitative aspects such as time saved, pollution avoided, commerce boosted, regional development, etc., which may not be immediately translated to monetary terms and hence built in the toll amount. Contd.. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [ot] make free - ruin the country.
On 4/26/07, आदित्य लघाटे [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/07, Vaibhav Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/07, A G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And so if they are not using this service, why should they pay? There may be people who do not use roads at all, why are roads free? Roads are free?? Don't u pay u t taxes??? Part III: You can make a similar case for broadband. If basic access is given for free, it will have two benefits: it will accelerate the creation of a knowledge economy by spreading the internet's usage *wider*, and it will create a better mechanism to let people use paid services - thus offsetting a part of the cost. However, there are a few caveats: one is that this is largely a political statement and some wish-speak. Maran may as well wish you had a pony. The other is that this can lead to deviation from the principle of net neutrality, by providing tiered services (remember the triple play announcements?). Also, a free provision of something will in most cases result into its inefficient usage. Still, I believe that a basic free ADSL provision (just like the free calls on your landline) may not be that bad an idea. If people like it enough, they can go for a paid plan. Popularity will also result into demand for services from private players, wireless access, etc. the latter of which also can be free up to a certain limit. I think I have said more than enough now, so I rest. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [ot] make free - ruin the country.
On 4/27/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had read the announcement of BSNL providing broadband in early 2004. I'm still waiting :) I know, few people (30,000) in Pune have BSNL provided broadband, but compared to Pune's population, what % is that ? We also read about (and by now forgotten) BSNL providing triple play service. I had applied for it as soon as it was launched - I registered five times through the net and phone, but to no avail. The BSNL call centre people now ask you to rather do a paper application, because they know that other modes will not be followed up. Finally, I had to submit a paper application, and do some hard follow-up with the local exchange, after which they did the connection (post feasibility-study) pretty quickly. You still have to improvise and jump through some hoops to get the connection, though. So, I used the new connection for about a month, and then got transferred to Mumbai. I will now try for an MTNL connection. The moral of the story is: you can't win, you can't break even, you cannot even quit the game. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]
+++ Nishit Dave [PLUG] [20-04-07 10:29 +0530]: | On 4/20/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: Hi, This is Shantanoo. I have put the 'Sender:' header in the mail. This is one of the reason why people need digitally signed messages :) Shantanoo hmm...interesting! Shouldn't the message board software guard against email header forgery, or is it too much to ask? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: WARNING 2: Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom Broadband on Linux
On 4/20/07, Anand Nene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Fri, 13/04/07 at 16:27 +0530] Aditya Godbole wrote: On 4/10/07, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did *I* become part of this specific conversation? Oh, I mentioned corporate email habits. Nothing to see here, move along... -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org
On 4/20/07, A G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree that the above points 'may' occure, it would be better if some hard examples are given. Else the credentials of the accuser gets a dent. This is a distinct possibility. Vista has been designed to *impinge* on your rights. Eg. MS talks of scalability of windows and how Linux is inferior to its OS etc. But who listens to their sponsered reviews and surveys? Cos they have lost their credentials. No harm in calling a spade a spade. Microsoft and its channel partners are marketing Vista as if it were the best thing after sliced bread. Sony laptops come preloaded with it. Do you have a say? It is a drag on hardware and hard-earned money. I only hope that fsf does not do harm to OSS with SCOish arguments and claims. This argument is made by FSF opponents and rms detractors who otherwise support the open source initiative and is purely a misinformed / motivated political viewpoint. However, we must understand that F/OSS owes so much to rms and the FSF. Those that don't like FSF philosophy may well use BSD or public domain software. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [OT] FSF Pune Group [was:Re: [PLUG] http://badvista.fsf.org]
On 4/20/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- -END PGP SIGNATURE- As this is OT, I'll risk the question: what's the use of digitally signing messages posted to a discussion forum? Any comment would invalidate the original signature anyway. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] [Commercial] - Linux Firewall Configuration
On 4/18/07, Neeraj Bezalwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- What, the firewall got your message? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Booting Problem in Mepis: Distribution selection
On 4/18/07, ॐ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically there is not much point in switching distributions but amount of *specific* help you get may vary depending on userbase in the vicinity (I mean LUG) for distribution of you choice. So i can only offer generic advice based on general practices because I understand little of deb based systems. Although I now many times end up telling people to try ubuntu, I am on Mandriva for a good reason that it works for me even now, when I have gone from power user to dumb user :-) Had I got ubuntu CD with me, I might have tried it with Laptop. But the ubuntu I saw last time did not install KMail which is my favourite of few years. Fedora Core 6 with Livna and Freshrpms repositories is as good, or even better a distribution than any. I switched back from Mandriva 2006 after a good year because the 2007 DVD I had received from LFY (you know the story) ruined my system, but I have installed 2007 for a friend and it was working very well except for the drivers for his onboard nvidia 3d card (intel d102 MB). Till some months back, I had no reason to switch from FC6 as broadband is a great equalizer for distros, but recently my oft-quoted, unsolved problem with BSNL/Netgear combo has made me think of switching again. I will be using the hardware with MTNL soon, and if I find the same problem repeating, I will post the problem again. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu LTS 6.06 Required.
On 4/19/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/19/07, A G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Can anyone lend me Ubuntu LTS 6.06? Pl contact me offline on my id. Thanks. ~A. Unless there is a specific reason (e.g Long Term Support offered by 6.0.6) I suggest you wait just a day or two (April 19th to be precise, possibly South Africa time), Ubuntu will release their latest version 7.04 -DP You also have 6.10 (Edgy Eft), so the requirement seems to be LTS, isn't it? AG, Please give your location so that it can be picked up from somebody living near you. If you are anywhere near Nagar Road, you can pick an original Ubuntu 6.06 cd from me on Sunday. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] FreeDOS on Dell Inspiron 1501
On 4/16/07, ॐ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your patience with the wording of this message. Any flames and comments are welcome, with a caution that I may prefer to ignore them :-) I couldn't just get the timeline here. You have bought it recently, right? So the 3-4 years mean you have been using Mandriva since then? Which version, on what? If you have bought a mainstream laptop, I wonder why you had issues with Mandriva 64 bit. And why CDs? HCL now sells notebooks (8008 is the series) with Ubuntu 6.06 preinstalled. I had seen them twice at Baba Computers (East Street), yours for about Rs.42,000 with very decent specifications. Almost bought one, but in the meantime employer gave me an XP Lenovo R60, so the dream remains unfulfilled. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Help:Full Asterisk Installation on FC#
On 4/16/07, subodh nirwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to install Asterisk+Zaptel+Ztdummy+MySql+Apache+SugarCRM+ViciDail modules/servers on FC3.I would appreciate it very much if someone could post a step by step installation guide for setting up the above mentioned modules/servers on my FC3 pc.I want to setup a fully functional Call Centre supporting atleast 100 agents. Any suggestions/guidance are most welcome. Thanks Regards, Subodh N 9881614217 Please search the December archives for Mr.Henry J.Cobb. He already has an excellent implementation in Koregaon Park. His number has also been listed (if he is still there), but you should contact him off-list first. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] flv player
On 4/12/07, Pranav Peshwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree with Kaustubh,use mplayer. Get mplayer, get the essential codec pack,uncompress and put it into /usr/lib/win32/ or other appropriate place and play all kinds of media :) A slightly different approach would be to use something like zamzar.com and get the file(s) transcoded... or do it yourself using mencoder :)- I believe it is rather unethical to use Windows dlls in this manner. Especially if you have embraced Linux as a matter of principle, not price. Further, doing so removes the incentive for people trying to reverse engineer proprietary codecs, and finally harms the open standards / source philosophy. I have used vlc quite often for playing flv files, and it works satisfactorily. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux Distro ?
On 4/13/07, Prashant Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks alot for clearing my friends doubt. I couldnt solve it, told him PLUG has the answers. THanks That *is* supposed to be the raison d'être for a LUG. Do tell your friend to choose a distro (or at least the eye-candy level) that works well with his hardware. For a cafe, it could be really legacy. He could also do well with terminal services, but for that I welcome the experts here to advise. btw, no top posting for mails to the LUG. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Linux Distro ?
On 4/12/07, Prashant Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys, i was wondering which linux distro might be suited for use in a Cafe? Someone told me Ubuntu cant be used as its not free to use for commercial purpose. How abt Vector Linux, does it also have any clause like this? Please just take a look at the licensing information on an Ubuntu CD wrapper or on the Ubuntu website, and all doubts might be cleared. Your choice will entirely depend on what ultimate use you want to put the OS to, however, Ubuntu is very well packaged and may suit your requirements satisfactorily. If you don't like Ubuntu after trying it, you need not worry. If you have partitioned your system/s properly (e.g. keeping the /home directory on a separate partition), you can switch distros easily without worrying about loss of critical data or documents. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] flv player
On 4/12/07, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/12/07, Vivek Khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/12/07, Rajiv Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to play down loaded flv files in Kaffeine. I am unable to hear the sound though video is seen. How can I fix it. Try VLC, it can play flv files properly. The link: http://www.videolan.org PS: vlc also has transcoding capabilities: through a wizard under the file menu or directly from the open file / stream / disc dialogue. You will need to experiment with codecs, bit rates and wrappers before getting a transcoded version that can play on Linux (or vlc) and Windows (on WMP) alike. This has more to do with Windows using proprietary codecs and not easing use of open alternatives. You can also see the latest release of gnash ( http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash), a GNU flash player that is trying to catch up with the newer flash versions (now you know how proprietary software ensures lock-in: by changing formats frequently and keeping them secret). -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: WARNING 2: Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom Broadband on Linux
On 4/9/07, शंतनु (Shantanoo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0 - http://plug.org.in/mailinglist.php 1 - http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html 2 - http://ifets.ieee.org/past_archives/archiv_260200_070201/0639.html 3 - http://www.lemis.com/email.html 4 - http://www.lemis.com/questions.html HTH. ;) It's a pity we cannot configure user behaviour. Although top posting may be inappropriate in the user groups, corporate email usually requires it, as people can go down the tree to refer to conversation history. Therefore, it is a pity we do not have any email client (except the human one) that differentiates between originator / recipient to automatically append replies below or above the message according to set rules. Someone should develop it. Now, is there a rule for tangential posting? -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: WARNING 3: Re: [PLUG] Tata Indicom Broadband on Linux
On 4/10/07, Desi Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) I never knew discouraged was defined as not allowed. I wholeheartedly agree to this :) Additionally not allowed doesn't mean not allowed for everyone. It is lot more like top posting is not allowed if Webmaster caught you top-posting, if not you are OK Flame on Please kill this thread, burn it and spread its ashes over the oceans. And yes, it is not alright to use words like 'warning' and holding over-sized posts long for moderation etc. It would tantamount to etiquette Nazism. There, that was the cruelest cut. Now for some sanity. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] PLUG meeting April 2007 Saturday 7th April,4 pm @ SICSR
On 4/7/07, Nawaz Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, *Forcing* some one to use a particular software sounds like a micro$oft culture not much appretiated in the open src community, just my thought, you can protest anyways. Cheers. You are gravely mistaken. The Free software movement does not force anybody to use open source or even Free software. That choice is left to every individual. It is closed source software vendors that force users, in more ways than one, to stay with them. For example: 1. Compromising interoperability 2. Trampling on standards 3. Suffocating and extinguishing competition (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) 4. Forcing upgrades 5. Bribing or coercing decision makers to choose one software above the other 6. Bundling software to nip choice in the bud 7. Forcing the system vendors' hand 8. Catching 'em young 9. Keeping 'em hooked 10. Colluding with media/entertainment companies to enforce DRM to get their software recommended (Ha ha, imagine the gall of mobile phone manufacturers, listing DRM as a 'feature' instead of a 'limitation'!) 11. Spreading FUD 12. Bribing the media to make it look like choice *does not exist* Contd.. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] PLUG meeting April 2007 Saturday 7th April,4 pm @ SICSR
On 4/7/07, Nawaz Patel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, *Forcing* some one to use a particular software sounds like a micro$oft culture not much appretiated in the open src community, just my thought, you can protest anyways. Contd. from previous post: The issue here is that the likes of Microsoft are bent upon making their software pervasive in growth economies, and they are using their financial muscle and creating other indirect obligations on the establishment to make it happen. Even while various organs of the Government have been talking about using FOSS to promote information technology in India, various State Governments, PSUs etc. have been colluding with its very enemy. We cannot tolerate seeing Microsoft extort our tax money. We cannot tolerate seeing them extinguish choice (and exposure to a *better* world) for our children. We cannot tolerate our interests being compromised by foreign entities. That is why we want to join the fight. You may have your reasons. You are free to act by them. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] To Ranjit / my connection
On 4/8/07, Ranjit Bhonsle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Knoppix is debain based it will work. On Fedora it would be adsl-setup. regards, Ranjit. If confused about various alternatives, have one more - RP-PPPoE. Please download the file rp-pppoe-3.8.tar.gz from http://www.roaringpenguin.com/en/penguin/openSourceProducts/rpPppoe We have posted on the PLUG at various times (up to a couple of months ago) regarding the use of this package, and it is very straightforward. You can get your ISP's configuration details from anybody using the connection with Windows XP. Just look for the relevant details in the dialer / network connection properties / status dialogs. You can also run ipconfig from the command shell in XP to get DNS addresses etc. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Embedded Linux /Qt Training Information
On 3/28/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 1. Start from Programming from the Ground-Up: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/pgubook/ 2. Read Linux device driver and try out its examples. 3. Participate (testing, bug fixing, development) in free/open source embedded projects. Check this thread too: http://www.plug.org.in/pipermail/plug-mail/2006-December/001402.html I thank you a thousand times for the PGU link, and I thank you again. Now, us non-programmers will get an insight into programming. Perhaps somebody will one day write a book about the userland, so that the engineers / programmers here can understand what us lay users, Linux enthusiasts and Freedom lovers want. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
Re: [PLUG] Embedded Linux /Qt Training Information
On 3/28/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean user-space system programming, then you can check out: http://www.advancedlinuxprogramming.com/ No, that was supposed to be a sarcastic comment about LUGs tending to focus on topics of academic interest to engineers, while neglecting the Cause. Thanks anyway. Will check it out someday. My needs and curiosity might be amply satisfied with the PGU. -- __ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: (plug-mail@plug.org.in) List Information: http://plug.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
