Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
Philip Meyer;527823 Wrote: > > > >This makes it completely inconsistent if you also have a Boom or > >Classic in your setup since those still show song details when you > hit > >the right arrow. > Hurrah! > > >When/if I get some time, I'll update Custom Browse to make it > >consistent with the rest of the interface, probably through a global > >configuration option. > Assume you mean Touch interface, and not also IR Remote? > Feels like it should either work as it does today or exactly as all the other menus does. So this means that even if I don't really like it, I'll probably change it so it on Squeezeplay devices also affects the IR remote interface while it doesn't on Boom/Classic/Transporter. It will probably be optional, so you can configure it to work as it does at the moment, which could be useful for users that only uses Custom Browse menus. Philip Meyer;527823 Wrote: > > Would it make sense to link it with the "Override standard track > details" option? i.e. if disabled (use standard track details), this > could do touch-to-destroy like the standard Touch interface, whereas if > enabled (extended song details chosen), this could work as it does > currently? > Honestly I would really like to get rid of the "Override standard track details" option. The reason it exists is that at the time I implemented it there wasn't any way to mix standard track details menus with third party menus, at the moment it is through the TrackInfo api so there is no reason Custom Browse should try to replace it. I'll just have to get some time to actually remove it and replace it with a TrackInfo implementation. Philip Meyer;527823 Wrote: > > Either way, IR Remote right-arrow should always navigate, not repeat > the functionality of the play button. > I completely agree, but it should do that in all menus, at least on the same device. So the current situation where it works in the Custom Browse menus but not in the other menus aren't a good one. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76488 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer 0.9 - with UK and Non UK Support
Text restored again today. Though not sure why Radio 4 FM are showing "Wild Billy Childish" throughout the Today programme. The BBC must be having some problems. -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67098 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer 0.9 - with UK and Non UK Support
Text restored again today. Though not sure why Radio 4 FM are showing "Wild Billy Childish" throughout the Today programme. The BBC must be having some problems. -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67098 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iTunes Update not working correctly under OSX
Looks like I have to give up on the idea of syncing ratings and play counts. Any idea whom to contact about this issue? Logitech? THe SB Server developers? Thanks for trying to help! -- -tm- -tm-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76457 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
Philip Meyer;527823 Wrote: > >IMHO, the main issue isn't really "TouchToPlay", the main issue is > that > >IR remote uses right arrow button to play (even though there is a > play > >button on the remote). > It makes little sense on a Touch player (IMO), and no sense on Radio or > Classic players because there are dedicated Play and Add buttons > (although Add isn't add any more on Radio, not sure what the default is > for IR Remote Add button, because I've changed my config anyway). > I don't agree. TouchToPlay is the right step for all devices and its a pity that it wasn't introduced to the Boom. Every single untrained person I let play with the boom is confused by seeing the song infos - sure - they find the play button in the end - but going against (the first) intuition is always bad. Anyway - if I remember correctly logitech did usability tests before introducing the new behaviour so they have statistics on their side for the newer devices. I also didn't want to start a discussion about pro/con of TouchToPlay. I just want consistency across my menus to not confuse my wife. She's got enough to complain about everything logitech related already, I don't want to give her new ammunition to tease me :D -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76488 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
>IMHO, the main issue isn't really "TouchToPlay", the main issue is that >IR remote uses right arrow button to play (even though there is a play >button on the remote). It makes little sense on a Touch player (IMO), and no sense on Radio or Classic players because there are dedicated Play and Add buttons (although Add isn't add any more on Radio, not sure what the default is for IR Remote Add button, because I've changed my config anyway). This basic "play a single track then find something else to play" maybe works for some users. eg. in a household with only a Touch, and not using the IR Remote, and with small libraries. It's the difference between the aging population, used to playing albums or more dynamic playback requirements, and for kids that like to play the same track on repeat for an hour, then play another track. In a household with more devices, basic IR remote functionality inconsistency is annoying. With each new player release comes a slightly different remote with key ordering moved around, certain keys that would seem useful removed, etc. >This makes it completely inconsistent if you also have a Boom or >Classic in your setup since those still show song details when you hit >the right arrow. Hurrah! >When/if I get some time, I'll update Custom Browse to make it >consistent with the rest of the interface, probably through a global >configuration option. Assume you mean Touch interface, and not also IR Remote? Would it make sense to link it with the "Override standard track details" option? i.e. if disabled (use standard track details), this could do touch-to-destroy like the standard Touch interface, whereas if enabled (extended song details chosen), this could work as it does currently? Either way, IR Remote right-arrow should always navigate, not repeat the functionality of the play button. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: (not so) Sirius Plugin
Thank You...Thank You...Thank You...Thank You... Works great -- Claudius Claudius's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71636 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
erland;527807 Wrote:
> This makes it completely inconsistent if you also have a Boom or Classic
> in your setup since those still show song details when you hit the right
> arrow.
How annoying that TouchToPlay was just implemented for SqueezePlay
devices :(
Can you check if you can reproduce the 'play all songs in album'
problem ?
I have a MultiLibrary-Menu ('Kids', like from your tutorial), the
checkbox is set for this menu, but only a single song is played.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
IMHO, the main issue isn't really "TouchToPlay", the main issue is that IR remote uses right arrow button to play (even though there is a play button on the remote). This makes it completely inconsistent if you also have a Boom or Classic in your setup since those still show song details when you hit the right arrow. Touch to play in the touch interface of Squeezebox Touch isn't that bad because it makes it consistent with some other touch based devices, like the music player on iPod Touch/iPhone or iPeng. Unfortunately, Logitech decided that consistent meant that IR interface and touch interface should work exactly the same. When/if I get some time, I'll update Custom Browse to make it consistent with the rest of the interface, probably through a global configuration option. It won't happen in the near future though because I have some other stuff I like to finish first in other applets/plugins. Remind me if it hasn't been solved in a month or two. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76488 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
>Welcome to the inner circle. Now you've got the honor to be able to >discuss the higher virtues of TTP vs. bitrate information with Phil >until the cows come home :) Yeah, I'll take the bait... I have no interest in bitrate information (nor most other items in "More Info") - I think you miss the point. But, touch to display bitrate information may even perhaps be better than touch to destroy current playlist ;-) Personally, I play albums or random mixes via MusicIP, dynamic playlist, TrackStat, etc. Hardly ever play/add single songs. I don't build up playlists by manual (random access) song selection. But I do often like to see details about an item that's playing, eg. to navigate to related music through hyperlinks, show comments, year of release, etc). Touch-to-play for Radio stations makes sense, as there's next-to-no reason to view details about a radio station (url is not useful!). I think this is what touch-to-play was originally considered for, but was extended to songs too. There would be some merit in having Touch-to-play on album context, as that is (arguably) the most-likely action at album level. I'm not against the interface being configured as it is, as some people seem to like it, but why not configurable (esp. seeing that it would add consistency across existing product range). There was an interface that worked well on classic players. Play did a play action, Add did an add action, navigation always navigated. Around the time that SBC came along (less buttons?), people complained that it was too easy to blow away the current playlist by accidentally playing a single item. This was "cured" by the Party Mode function, which made the Play action do an add action instead. So, Add became More. Then Party Mode was disbanded because it was once again the seen as acceptable to be able to accidentally play an item to blow away everything that is already queued up to play. This was once mentioned as a blocker problem that had to be addressed before Radio/Touch could ship, but the issue has been reduced in priority. [Can't find the bug report at the moment, as bugzilla seems to be down] It wouldn't be so bad if there was a better song info screen, rather than an almost random mash-up long list of song info items and actions, in a small window that shows only 4 items at a time. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: FindArt plugin beta
I'll live happily with 2.05. I just want to thank you for dedication, bpa. -- epoch1970 Daily dose delivered by: 2 SB Classic (fw 130), 1 SB Boom (fw 50) SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 (Debian 5.0) with plugins: ContextMenu, SaverSwitcher by Peter Watkins Server Power Control by Gordon Harris WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) FindArt, CDplayer by bpa BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple TrackStat by Erland Isaksson. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49245 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
@bluegaspode Welcome to the inner circle. Now you've got the honor to be able to discuss the higher virtues of TTP vs. bitrate information with Phil until the cows come home :) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76488 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
>I'm happy if my wife doesn't ask me, why it is different :) >For most 7.4.x users, the current way will be confusing. > For most users that have used existing products, TouchToPlay will be confusing. After all, it's the new players that have changed, causing a difference, rather than existing players and plugins. >I should add, that this menu was automatically created by the >MultiLibrary-Plugin, so maybe there is some incompatibility or bug ? Not sure. If you changed the setting, perhaps the content needs refreshing somehow? eg. delete cache folder and restart SBS? ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Kowalski;527710 Wrote: > Ok, thanks for that. > > It all looks a bit complex and out of my league to be honest, so I > think I'll just stick with the classic and it's IR remote. Yep, I can believe that, haven't done it myself, to be honest. BTW, iPeng works quite well with the Classic, too, and until next month it's still my favorite Squeezebox :) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Ok, thanks for that. It all looks a bit complex and out of my league to be honest, so I think I'll just stick with the classic and it's IR remote. -- Kowalski Kowalski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomScan - Reading MediaMonkey custom tags
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Any progress with this Erland? I'm gutted that I can't get it to work.
If you can help I'd be very grateful. If you have an SBController, can
I bribe you with a SqueezeIR config??
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iTunes Update not working correctlyunder OSX
I think the 1753 error has come up a few times before. You can try searching the forums for it but not sure there's ever been a definite answer as to what it is and how to fix it! James -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy, and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. We may monitor and store emails to the extent permitted by applicable law. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
Philip Meyer;527646 Wrote: > >I was just confused by navigating a custom-browse menu on my > Radio.[color=blue] > I am happy that it brings up options I'm happy if my wife doesn't ask me, why it is different :) For most 7.4.x users, the current way will be confusing. > > If "play all songs in selected album" is enabled, playing a song > actually queues up the whole album, but starts playback from the song > you selected. > If "play all songs in selected album" is disabled, the song you play is > the only song that is played. Thanks for the hint, didn't now that this option existed for every menu. Anyway - it is set in may case for all menus and still it doesn't work. I should add, that this menu was automatically created by the MultiLibrary-Plugin, so maybe there is some incompatibility or bug ? -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76488 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iTunes Update not working correctly under OSX
>[10-03-24 01:35:04.5923] Slim::Control::Request::notify (2108) Error: Failed notify: Mac::AppleScript returned error (-1753) I have the same Error (-1753). >From one day to another. :( Glue was installed properly. And suddenly only that error. even reinstalls or many reboot did not fix that problem. -- steffen steffen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76457 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] CustomBrowser and TouchToPlay ?
>I was just confused by navigating a custom-browse menu on my Radio. >I'm very used to TouchToPlay so expected to have a song start after >clicking it. In a CustomBrowse-Menu this opens the options of the track >(which I'd expect on the '+' icon). > I am happy that it brings up options, as I don't often want to play a single track. This plugin is working how I would prefer the standard Browse functions to work. I guess that if the action could be optional, that would suit everyone. I am having trouble though with long-touch on an album; it seems to take a while to pop up the album context menu. In fact, it doesn't come up at all, until finger is removed from display, unlike built-in functionality. [Edit: Take that back - it seems to be working better now - perhaps there's some initial pre-fetching going on that makes the UI go slow] >Furthermore in the original library menu, when a select a song from an >album, after the song has finished, the rest of the album is playing. It >doesn't do so, when the song was started from within a CustomBrowse >menu. > There's an option to change the setting, in both globally for SBS, and for each individual menu in CustomBrowse (Custom Browse settings > Manage menus > [click menu name] > Play all songs in selected album). If "play all songs in selected album" is enabled, playing a song actually queues up the whole album, but starts playback from the song you selected. If "play all songs in selected album" is disabled, the song you play is the only song that is played. This is my preferred setting, because you can play a whole album at album level, and the setting may not have a valid meaning in all menus anyway. i.e. you can have menus that return random songs, or ordered differently, so "play all songs in selected album" is not something that makes sense to provide at a global level. ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
