Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Jazz FM changed again!

2014-10-16 Thread frozzers

slim_maikel wrote: 
 Attached is the complete JazzFM schedule as of the 15/10/2014 in form of
 an opml file that can be imported into LMS. 
 Please download the attachment, rename it to jazzfm.opml and import into
 your LMS favourites.
 It should look like and work like triode's plug-in.
 
 Have fun

Hi

Is this the complete listen again list? My favourite show is The Peter
Young Show on Saturday pm. It's on the website's 'Catchup' list but not
on your list. Would you be able to include it as well please?

Cheers

Chris



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2014-10-16 Thread danco

bpa wrote: 
 If not playing WMA - then probably playing Flash/AAC. 
 
 If you can play the stream on iPlayer browser interface  (which uses
 Flash/AAC) then it is unlikely to be the stream or ISP.
 AAC has to be transcoded into Flac to play on an SB2. Rebuffering could
 be caused by processor load or network load.  I don't think there should
 be a processor problem so perhaps it is network related.  What is CPU
 load on Macbook when playing the stream ?

Of course, following standard behaviour, after reporting intermittent
problems, I am currently not getting them!

Do the logs show what kind of stream is being played? If so, how?

A quick current check shows a CPU load of around 10% with several
programs running but idle.Network download shows at around 30 KB/s, and
the Powerline load (or available load) at 80 Mbits/second.

I could move to a Squeezebox Touch, either as a trial or permanently, as
I have on as a spare.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Annouce: SB Player, a software Squeezebox player app for Android.

2014-10-16 Thread wt0

Update about SB Player on the FireTV: 
Failed the review process again, fortunately it's a simple problem. 
Apparently the FireTV doesn't have a web browser app, so it couldn't
handle the contact info links in the About dialog box. Resubmitted an
updated version, lets see how long it will take this time.

BTW, just updated on the Play store too. This one adds the launch at
boot option and improves synchronization across track changes.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2014-10-16 Thread bpa

danco wrote: 
 Do the logs show what kind of stream is being played? If so, how?

On the SB2 if you look at the More Info while the stream is playing -
under Bitrate - if it says transcoded to xxxkbps FLAC) then stream is
being transcoded which has bigger load on processor and network (2
streams - router to server Flash/AAC and  server to player Flac) .  If
there is no Bitrate entry or just says XXXkbps CBR - then Sb2 is playing
natively.  If playing WMA then stream goes directly from BBC to player
no server involved.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2014-10-16 Thread Tony T

Any Rhapsody users here?  
I'm getting a 500 SSL negotiation failed message when trying to view
My Library from squeezebox (viewing from Rhapsody's website works).  I
can view everything else on Rhapsody in Squeezebox, just not My Library.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2014-10-16 Thread radish112

Tony T,

Yep, having same problem with Rhapsody. I first noticed the problem
yesterday.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Herger

Any Rhapsody users here?
I'm getting a 500 SSL negotiation failed message when trying to view
My Library from squeezebox (viewing from Rhapsody's website works).  I
can view everything else on Rhapsody in Squeezebox, just not My Library.


You'd rather start a new thread in one of the more frequented groups. 
It's OT here.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

2014-10-16 Thread SlimChances

I am finding that scans of my library are fairly quick until it starts
scanning Album cover lookup and Artist picture lookup(add another 45
minutes or so to scan time). It seems to me that this shouldn't need to
be done every scan if the information is cached somewhere. Would using
Custom Scan allow me to keep previous scans of Album and Artist pictures
but avoid doing a redundant lookup?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Jazz FM changed again!

2014-10-16 Thread slim_maikel

frozzers wrote: 
 Hi
 
 Is this the complete listen again list? My favorite show is The Peter
 Young Show on Saturday pm. It's on the website's 'Catchup' list but not
 on your list. Would you be able to include it as well please?
 
 Cheers
 
 Chris

Hi Chris 
I added the Peter Young show.
Please see the updated file attached.
16504


+---+
|Filename: jazzfm.opml.16102014.txt |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16504|
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2014-10-16 Thread danco

bpa wrote: 
 On the SB2 if you look at the More Info while the stream is playing -
 under Bitrate - if it says transcoded to xxxkbps FLAC) then stream is
 being transcoded which has bigger load on processor and network (2
 streams - router to server Flash/AAC and  server to player Flac) .  If
 there is no Bitrate entry or just says XXXkbps CBR - then Sb2 is playing
 natively.  If playing WMA then stream goes directly from BBC to player
 no server involved.

That's useful to know. But I don't know how to get to More Info.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread janus

mherger wrote: 
  Hi i just upgraded to version 1.5.0 but now nothing gets added to my
  playlist. I use only Spotify as my music source. I dont know what
  happened. Please advise. Thanks!
 
 Please enable logging for plugin.smartmix, try a few ways to start a 
 mix, then report what exactly you did, and what the server.log is
 reporting.
 
 -- 
 
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Hi thanks for the prompt reply. I just started playing a track from
Spotify. Got the following logs (I set to DEBUG mode for SmartMix log):
[14-10-16 15:05:45.1803] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::onPlaylistChange
(1291) Received command playlist loadtracks
[14-10-16 15:05:45.1812] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::onPlaylistChange
(1292) While in mode: new!, from LivingRoom
[14-10-16 15:05:45.1822] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::onPlaylistChange
(1342) Cyclic mode ending due to playlist: playlist loadtracks command
[14-10-16 15:05:45.4361] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::onPlaylistChange
(1291) Received command playlist newsong
[14-10-16 15:05:45.4371] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::onPlaylistChange
(1292) While in mode: new!, from LivingRoom
[14-10-16 15:05:45.4383] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::neverStopTheMusic
(1355) 0 songs remaining, songIndex = 0
[14-10-16 15:05:45.4401] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::neverStopTheMusic
(1387) Auto-mixing from random tracks in current playlist
[14-10-16 15:05:45.4419] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::createMix (797)
Starting dynamic mix using: { track_id =
[spotify-WW:track:3SaIsrEzrQGDcG1jCeaK8q] }
[14-10-16 15:05:45.4436] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_call (298) Async API
call: GET
http://developer.echonest.com/api/v4/playlist/dynamic/create?song_id=spotify-WW%3Atrack%3A3SaIsrEzrQGDcG1jCeaK8qbucket=id%3Aspotify-WWbucket=trackstype=song-radiodistribution=wanderingapi_key=*
[14-10-16 15:05:47.6547] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-limit: 120
[14-10-16 15:05:47.6557] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-remaining: 110
[14-10-16 15:05:47.6566] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-used: 10
[14-10-16 15:05:47.6619] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_call (298) Async API
call: GET http://tinyurl.com/n8uprva
[14-10-16 15:05:47.] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::_createMixCb (858)
Got dynamic playlist session_id: 168534774eac47bcb7d5d294821a51df
[14-10-16 15:05:47.6683] Plugins::SmartMix::Plugin::addTracks (1058) 0
songs remaining, songIndex = 0
[14-10-16 15:05:47.6695] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_call (298) Async API
call: GET
http://developer.echonest.com/api/v4/playlist/dynamic/next?session_id=168534774eac47bcb7d5d294821a51dfresults=5api_key=*
[14-10-16 15:05:48.1955] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-limit: 120
[14-10-16 15:05:48.1964] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-remaining: 108
[14-10-16 15:05:48.1973] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-used: 12
[14-10-16 15:05:48.3426] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-limit: 120
[14-10-16 15:05:48.3436] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-remaining: 109
[14-10-16 15:05:48.3445] Plugins::SmartMix::API::_getResponseBody (357)
x-ratelimit-used: 11

Please advise! Thanks!

Eric



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Herger

Hi thanks for the prompt reply. I just started playing a track from
Spotify. Got the following logs (I set to DEBUG mode for SmartMix log):


Is this really all there is? I'm not seeing what the result of the last 
call was...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2014-10-16 Thread bpa

danco wrote: 
 That's useful to know. But I don't know how to get to More Info.

When track is playing press right Arrow on Remote, then down until you
get More Info menu and then right arrow and then down to find details.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread janus

janus wrote: 
 Hi yes it is all the information I saw in server.log. Did you check the
 uploaded file?

Maybe this is what you searched?

[14-10-16 15:58:34.1348] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (147)
Error: Select task failed calling
Slim::Networking::Async::HTTP::_http_read_body: illegal file descriptor
or filehandle (either no attached file descriptor or illegal value):  at
/share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Networking/IO/Select.pm
line 150.
; fh=Slim::Networking::Async::Socket::HTTP=GLOB(0xcc89d30)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Herger

Hi yes it is all the information I saw in server.log. Did you check the
uploaded file?


Hmm... I wonder whether it's the ID I'm sending: 
spotify-WW:track:3SaIsrEzrQGDcG1jCeaK8q. They changed that a while ago 
to get rid of the -WW postfix, eg. spotify:track:3SaIsrEzrQGDcG1jCeaK8q. 
Maybe it doesn't find tracks using the old IDs any more.


What if you started a mix based on a local track, or one of the 
pre-defined recipes?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread janus

mherger wrote: 
  Hi thanks for the prompt reply. I just started playing a track from
  Spotify. Got the following logs (I set to DEBUG mode for SmartMix
 log):
 
 Is this really all there is? I'm not seeing what the result of the last
 
 call was...
 
 -- 
 
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Hi yes it is all the information I saw in server.log. Did you check the
uploaded file?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread schwimma

first of all, i love this plugin thanx!!

since last week i have an spotify premium account

following problem, when i chosse spotify and lokal sources as sources
for music under options, it would not play , when i switch back to only
local music it works ( but i must reboot my squeeze server)

i use the triode spotify plugin  all newest version

touch with 7.8 and server with 7.81 on an qnap nas (fasc branding 4.07)

any advice?

thank you

daniel



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread janus

mherger wrote: 
  Hi yes it is all the information I saw in server.log. Did you check
 the
  uploaded file?
 
 Hmm... I wonder whether it's the ID I'm sending: 
 spotify-WW:track:3SaIsrEzrQGDcG1jCeaK8q. They changed that a while ago 
 to get rid of the -WW postfix, eg. spotify:track:3SaIsrEzrQGDcG1jCeaK8q.
 
 Maybe it doesn't find tracks using the old IDs any more.
 
 What if you started a mix based on a local track, or one of the 
 pre-defined recipes?
 
 -- 
 
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Too bad, no matter what I did, either from local track and/or recipe
and/or de blender... nothing works.

If you need other log information please let me know thanks!


Eric



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Herger

following problem, when i chosse spotify and lokal sources as sources
for music under options, it would not play , when i switch back to only
local music it works ( but i must reboot my squeeze server)


Might be the aforementioned issue with spotify:track:... vs. 
spotify-WW:track:... IDs. I'm hopefully going to push out another 
release tonight.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2014-10-16 Thread verypsb

This has probably been asked a thousand times before, but is there a
website or something to find interesting recipes? It looks like Spotify
did add some recipes...



::Please vote:::
'::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330)
'::bug 17963:: New and changed doesn't handle changed files '
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17963)
'::bug 17799:: Use a separator such as 'Also appears on' when viewing
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'::bug 18054:: Add support for 'Set Subtitle'/'Disc Subtitle' (ID3v2.4
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread janus

mherger wrote: 
  following problem, when i chosse spotify and lokal sources as sources
  for music under options, it would not play , when i switch back to
 only
  local music it works ( but i must reboot my squeeze server)
 
 Might be the aforementioned issue with spotify:track:... vs. 
 spotify-WW:track:... IDs. I'm hopefully going to push out another 
 release tonight.
 
 -- 
 
 Michael

I have more info for you, please see attached
file...16507


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|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16507|
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread schwimma

would be great

thanx



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2014-10-16 Thread danco

bpa wrote: 
 When track is playing press right Arrow on Remote, then down until you
 get More Info menu and then right arrow and then down to find details.

Thanks. I had never noticed that option.

I can't see, from the data I have, that either processor or network
should be overloaded.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2014-10-16 Thread pnaga

Hi
The format of yhe Qobuz web page has changed and the greazemonkey script
for firefox does not work anymore!
Any solution?
Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread janus

Hi Michael,

I just installed 1.5.1 but still no mixes from 1 song off Spotify. The
predefined recipe is hit or miss. Does it have to do with my setting in
SmartMix? I set it first to Local Files AND Spotify. It added only mixes
from my local files and no Spotify tracks. When I only set it to use
Spotify no tracks were ever added. Something missing here I guessed.

Thanks a lot for the quick response and really appreciate for your time
to fix it right away but still no mixes ;-(

Anyone had any success here with new mixes?

Thanks!

Eric



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2014-10-16 Thread Fahzz

iPhone 5s running iOS 8.0.2 and iPeng 8. 

I'm getting this message every time i start iPeng, and I can't figure
out how to stop it. 

I think it coincided with one of the iOS updates-but i can't remember
which one.

I don't want to turn cellular on for iPeng, and i can just hit OK to get
it off the screen, but if there's an easy fix, I'd like to know about
it. Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2014-10-16 Thread pippin

Fahzz wrote: 
 I think it coincided with one of the iOS updates-but i can't remember
 which one.
 
 I don't want to turn cellular on for iPeng, and i can just hit OK to get
 it off the screen, but if there's an easy fix, I'd like to know about
 it. Thanks.

It was the OS update to iOS 7 and there is absolutely no way around it
except for turning on cellular.
It's one of these things Apple has done really badly. It's an iOS
message, not an iPeng one. It will show up for every App that has ever
accessed the internet (through any means) and then got cellular data
turned off on it. It doesn't depend on what the App does, it will always
come up when you launch the App.
There are a lot of cases iPeng needs to communicate to the internet
(MySB, cover art, online streams, web browser) so removing all that
functionality is not an option.

I think what happened here is that Apple introduces that switch to turn
off cellular and just completely forgot to integrate it into the
communication APIs. Apps have no chance to find out that they have been
cut off and what is worse, iOS will even report that they are online if
you are on cellular but have blocked cellular data. So every App that
tests whether it has a working internet connection and does something
based on this test will no longer work correctly.
So I believe Apple just introduced this warning message to make sure
people understand what might be the cause if an App no longer works as
expected.

Why do you need to turn off cellular, BTW? Did you enable preserve
connection or why?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Herger

I have more info for you, please see attached


Hmm... from this log file it seems you're trying to play from the 
Blender web UI? Could you please just use the player UI, browse to My 
Music/SmartMix and play eg. the Recommendations mix (as always with 
plugin.smartmix set to debug)? I'm still missing log entries from your 
files.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes Plugin

2014-10-16 Thread Slackerini

Tedco wrote: 
 I am having a problem getting it to run on my macmini as well:  I get
 this from the log
 
 Can't locate Net/SDP.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/Plugins/Gallery
 
 
 And I've tried -- cpan install Net::SDP  -- and it looks like it's
 installed fine. Any ideas?

I'm not sure, but I've read that Net::SDP needs to be installed as a
superuser. 


Code:

sudo su   
  cpan install Net::SDP




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Smart Mix plugin

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Herger

This has probably been asked a thousand times before, but is there a
website or something to find interesting recipes?


No. I always hoped I could do this at some point, but I haven't got there...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2014-10-16 Thread mps

When I use Hechtus' GoogleMusic plugin to play a GoogleMusic library
shuffled, it works fine on the LMS web interface (I set shuffle to on,
and choose play for the library's songs). However, when I do the same
thing on iPeng, it only plays the (shuffled) first 500 songs of the
library. Not that I don't like the Arctic Monkeys, but there's more to
music than that :)

Any help much appreciated,

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2014-10-16 Thread pippin

mps wrote: 
 When I use Hechtus' GoogleMusic plugin to play a GoogleMusic library
 shuffled, it works fine on the LMS web interface (I set shuffle to on,
 and choose play for the library's songs). However, when I do the same
 thing on iPeng, it only plays the (shuffled) first 500 songs of the
 library. Not that I don't like the Arctic Monkeys, but there's more to
 music than that :)
 

Hm, I don't use that plugin, at least in the past it didn't work on OSX
and I never bothered to install it on any of my ubuntu test servers. Is
this now reasonably simple?
I'll probably give it a try but I'm not sure I have 500 tracks in my
Google Music library.

First and most important question: how does Logitech's App and a
Squeezebox Touch or Radio behave if you do the same thing.
Second question: what EXACTLY do you do in both interfaces? Please
describe every single touch or click from the main menu level on. A
screen shot of the iPeng view in which you play would also be
helpful.

But what you describe sounds like you might not do the same thing in
iPeng as in the web interface. How exactly do you choose play in both
interfaces? In iPeng, tapping the first track obviously will start the
playlist from there.
The 500 track limit is a (configurable) server restriction as you
probably know, I assume through the web interface the plugin also only
plays 500 tracks but different ones?

So in iPeng you should have to either play the header (if there is one)
to issue an action on the whole library or use the library's context
menu.
If that still fails the most likely explanation is a problem with the
plugin implementation for the SqueezePlay menu iPeng uses vs. whatever
the plugin uses for the web interface (that might be different code).
There are a few cases where iPeng turns shuffle off before playing
something but that's really usually only if you want to start playback
from a certain track and the plugin's menu doesn't support that straight
away. I would have to look at the code the plugin sends for the menu to
see that.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread

2014-10-16 Thread pippin

mps wrote: 
 
 Any help much appreciated,
 

OK, it's a I suspected: the plugin somehow does completely different
stuff in the player interface (which iPeng uses) and the web interface.
What it probably needs to do is respect the shuffle setting whenever the
googlemusic playlist play command is issued and the add a list of
randomly selected tracks instead of the current behavior of just adding
all tracks. This should be somewhat straightforward given that the
plugin seems to already do this from the web interface but I don't know
the specifics.

There's nothing I can do here from the iPeng side (other than create a
better icon which I will do now...)

Other than that the plugin works quite well, I like it. Should somehow
be more easily installable.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SmartMix Spotify: 1.5.0 to fixnon-playable tracks issue

2014-10-16 Thread schwimma

Morning

smartmix not in the plugin list anymore and server always wants to
reboot when i hit the plugin page...



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