Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: Got the T-shirt for that one already. see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103158-Announce-PlayHLS-Plugin-plugin-to-play-Apple-HLS-m3u8-streamp=808418viewfull=1#post808418 So you have. It is different from my LMS, although I don't know if LMS sets itself up differently on different linux variants. Code: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/syno/sbin:/usr/syno/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin vs /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin I don't suppose Klammer could change the LMS startup file PATH statement to match root's, or has that been done already, or would LMS not like that? LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: Klammer (armada370 based Synology) is the only Synology with the problem persisting. ffmpeg doesn't work when run from a shell prompt under userid admin but works nder user id root. This is not the case for other Synology NASs. Also on armda370 Synology, ffmpeg (owned by user root) when permissions set to +s will run from a shell prompt when run under user admin but not when run as part of LMS. Problem is I can't test all the questions you are asking as I don't have a NAS and Klammer doesn't have the skill to answer the questions you are asking. So all we can do is try to provoke the error message on a system where ffmpeg works and then see can it be undone on Klammer's system. As an alternative, I have gone through the ffmpeg code to see where the error is produced - unfortunately it is in a lot (but finite) of places. That said, I think long term it would be better to see if HLS/MPEGTS can be written in Perl and be part of a plugin. It would be a lighter solution and would work for all LMS users and I think might be done in less time that chasing a bug (however annoying) on one class of NAS. Is it muddying the water to try my own written from scratch program here? It's a drop-in replacement for ffmpeg so long as the options are -loglevel quiet -i $FILE$ -acodec copy -f adts -, i.e. it will only output adts aac. So it's only good for players that can can handle aac, otherwise |faad|flac or similar is needed to transcode. I've got a small statically linked armv5 binary which should avoid any issues with shared libraries, if that might be the problem. I could be persuaded to post it here if you think it is worth a try. utgg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
bpa wrote: Make sure BBCIplayer settings are set to the most comprehensive and enable transcoding. You can enable player.source to DEBUG and then try playing a stream. The log which ffmpeg is run. Yes, that was the problem. Now playing fine. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
utgg wrote: Is it muddying the water to try my own written from scratch program here? It's a drop-in replacement for ffmpeg so long as the options are -loglevel quiet -i $FILE$ -acodec copy -f adts -, i.e. it will only output adts aac. So it's only good for players that can can handle aac, otherwise |faad|flac or similar is needed to transcode. I've got a small statically linked armv5 binary which should avoid any issues with shared libraries, if that might be the problem. I could be persuaded to post it here if you think it is worth a try. Your solution will help users by being lighter than ffmpeg. Outputting adts AAC is OK as faad is supplied with LMS (even for armv5 it is fixed point faad better than ffmpeg I think). Will you provide and support a binary for all platforms (various ReadyNAS, Synology, QNAP etc., Linux, Windows, OSX ) or rely on 3rd parties to build and host. Be clear from the start what you will and will not do - otherwise you could be overwhelmed. For a version of AlienBBC (BBCiPlayer predecessor), part of the installation would download an appropriate copy of mplayer which simplified installation. If binaries (and source) of your ffmpre replacement are included as part of the plugin for main architectures - that would simplify installation for many users and I think would be what user would appreciate rather than being Lighter. A dilemma I have at the moment is that I am reluctant to produce a V1.2 of the plugin because it would trigger an install which would overwrite all customisations users have made to the plugin files and so break their BBC radio. Including a ffmpeg replacement binary in the plugin would minimise this issue. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: YouTube Plugin
Hi, I recently reinstalled and reconfigured my Synology DS410j with Squeezebox server 7.7.3-040. On the squeezebox I installed firmware 7.7.3-r16676. I also installed the YouTube plugin on the squeezebox server on my Synology. On the squeezebox I can access the plugin under 'my applications' and search for music, but none of the videos I try to play work and squeezebox shows message Networktest after a while. I can also access Logitech media server through my browser and search for music, but none of them will play. I don't see the plugin at all when I use the squeezebox app on Android or iOS. All of this used to work fine before. Any ideas? MJS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64106 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87731 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
I made a previous post about a problem I am having with the stream stuttering and then stopping. It seemed to get better but for the last couple of days all I can manage is a 30-60 sec run of music/broadcast before it goes silent, then perhaps comes back once or twice for a few seconds before failing completely. The final fail is indicated by the 'play' symbol re-appearing which can be used to get it going again - intermittently, as before. I have turned up the logging and this sequence seems to be typical:- [15-02-24 21:42:35.5891] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::new (28) radiovis: fm/ce1/c203/09100 [15-02-24 21:42:35.5893] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::new (65) send connect [15-02-24 21:42:35.5899] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::new (122) storing lines functions for Slim::Player::SqueezePlay=ARRAY(0xd806078) [15-02-24 21:42:35.5906] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (26) iplayer://live?aac=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8icon=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/logos/radio3_logomobile1-1.pngradiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100 [15-02-24 21:42:35.5914] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (41) baseUrl: iplayer://live?aac=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8icon=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/logos/radio3_logomobile1-1.pngradiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100 type: live prefOrder:aac,flashaac [15-02-24 21:42:35.5917] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (75) placeholder: iplayer://live?aac=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8type=aac [15-02-24 21:42:35.5921] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getNextTrack (107) scanning: live: aac http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8 for aac [15-02-24 21:42:35.5936] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::DESTROY (268) close: fm/ce1/c203/09100 [15-02-24 21:42:36.5947] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:37.5957] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:37.6578] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::__ANON__ (123) scanned: http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8 [15-02-24 21:42:37.6582] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::__ANON__ (132) found: http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8 bitrate: [15-02-24 21:42:37.6585] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::__ANON__ (146) adding 1 tracks at placeholder, 0 at end of playlist [15-02-24 21:42:37.6844] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::__ANON__ (89) send subscribe [15-02-24 21:42:37.6954] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::__ANON__ (99) body: SHOW http://static.bbci.co.uk/radiovis/1.1.0/logos/bbc_radio_three.png [15-02-24 21:42:37.6957] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::gotinfo (168) slide: displaying in 0 seconds: [15-02-24 21:42:37.6959] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::RadioVis::update (178) slide: displaying now [15-02-24 21:42:38.5969] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:39.5985] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:40.5997] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:41.6011] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:42.6025] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:43.6040] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 0 [15-02-24 21:42:44.6057] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 1.10133108711243 [15-02-24 21:42:45.6074] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (214) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 2.10294518089294 [15-02-24 21:42:45.6083] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (218) stream playing - disabling playlist state Any advice gratefully received. It is on a Vortexbox 2.2 which has been working well for a long time. It's been updated with bpa's HLS plugin and the menu.opml update. kingswindsor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
From memory, the path is ~/Library/Cache/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCIplayer Where ~ is your home directory odw199's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
Krisbee wrote: The idea is basically to build a current version of ffmpeg on your Synology device in a debian chroot. Are you able to point me to a web site that will give me some instructions how to do this? I have installed the debian chroot on my Synology DS214 but have never compiled anything before. I am happy to follow some Linux step-by-step instructions if there are any out there. I would be interested to see if I could get it to work. If it does, I could then make the compiled ffmpeg available to other Armada based Synology owners. Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK SQUEEZEBOXES:[/B] TWO SB DUETS (LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN) AND A *'PICOREPLAYER' (HTTPS://SITES.GOOGLE.COM/SITE/PICOREPLAYER/HOME) [b]Server:* Synology DS214 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.7.3 (official Synology package) *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH access point *Livingroom:* Receiver, Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver, Topping TP20 Mk2 Class T amp, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Max2Play Webinterface for Mediaclients (Audioplayer, Squeezeserver, Airplay, XBMC)
Hi ctweedle, please always use the LMS version 7.9 nightly as this is the one that I always test with new images and this one works. The C1 version for Max2Play is more an alpha version compared to the U3. The U3 Max2Play should work without problems and detect most USB-drives. HD-idle is used to bring devices to sleep while they are not used. You might disable this service (by console) to test, if your problem is related to this. If you get random disconnects (even during usage) and some of the usb-ports do not work at all, it might be a problem with a defect U3. The automount programm is usbmount. But I don't think that this causes troubles. 2 x Max2Play on ODROID U2/U3 with LMS, Squeezelite, Shairport, XBMC 1 x Squeezebox Receiver 1 x Denon 1713 AVR + Nubert 5.1 System iPeng Max2Play-Image for ODROID: http://shop.max2play.com/de/image-max2play flysurfer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101856 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin
On one side : -I can understand Qobuz wants tu push people to get the 10 subscription instead of the 5. -I don't understand the pricing levelling from mp3 streaming @5, and the flac one 4 times more expensive... -... While for me, 20 for flac streaming is fine. on the other side, from the user point of view, I don't see why I would I pay more because I don't want to use a computer to play in the house music. I don't want to show the bad path... but it may be possible to get the app id and app secret from qobuz desktop, and put it in the plugin. pierrepoulpe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97146 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bonze wrote: Isn't HDS the video equivalent of HLS? The codec is AAC - Simmons says AAC-LC at 320kb/s and 128kb/s bit rate and HE-AAC(v1) at 96kb/s and 48kb/s. But the streaming protocol comes in two types: HLS (for iOS and Android) and HDS (for desktop) delivery methods. So HDS is already available - just wondering whether we should use it? majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
TheLastMan wrote: Are you able to point me to a web site that will give me some instructions how to do this? I have installed the debian chroot on my Synology DS214 but have never compiled anything before. I am happy to follow some Linux step-by-step instructions if there are any out there. I would be interested to see if I could get it to work. If it does, I could then make the compiled ffmpeg available to other Armada based Synology owners. Well I wouldn't say compiling stuff is one of my strong points, and instructions on setting up and using the debian-chroot package are hard to find. This is what I did and assumes you are starting from scratch. 0. Stop LMS on your Synology. 1. Follow this in order to add the synocommunity sources to your NAS: https://synocommunity.com/#easy-install 2. There is no need to run the debain-chroot as a service on your NAS for this exercise. 3. Get to a root terminal by connecting to your NAS as root via ssh. 4. Use this command to enter your debian-chroot. Code: /var/packages/debian-chroot/scripts/start-stop-status chroot 5. You need to update your debian sources, install and configure locales (you might get some error messages during this) Code: apt-get update apt-get install locales dpkg-reconfigure locales dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Choose your locales with space to select a value and enter, basically just pick what matches your main Synology system. e.g. en_US.utf8 6. Install packages needed for the fetching and compiling ffmpeg source code: Code: apt-get install wget tar bzip2 yasm gcc make 7. Download ffmpeg source code and untar - I did this in /root dir of the chroot. Code: cd /root wget http://ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-2.5.4.tar.bz2 tar xvf ffmpeg-2.5.4.tar.bz2 cd ffmpeg-2.5.4 8. Compile ffmpeg ( configure, make, make install). Let each step complete before moving to the next. Code: ./configure Code: make -j2 Use j2 as you have two cores. Code: make install This could be slow on an ARM processor. 9. Check status of ffmpeg. Code: ffmpeg -version 10. If all OK, exit chroot Code: exit 11. Now copy ffmpeg in chroot directory to main /usr/bin of Synology Code: cp /volume1/@appstore/debian-chroot/var/chroottarget/usr/local/bin/ffmpeg /usr/bin/ffmpeg 11. Check ffmpeg is found by Synology system Code: which ffmpeg This should return /usr/bin/ffmpeg 12. Restart LMS and complete config for HLS streams. Remember I did this x86 arch. A quick look at the files in the ffmpeg source tarball would suggest it should compile on ARM arch. The question is which arm processors will it compile on. As the DS214 model uses a MARVELL Armada XP MV78230, which is Armv7 compliant, it should compile. Krisbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: Using readelf looking at the ffmpeg executable for arm - it says it is a armv5te Code: . . . Flags: 0x5000202, has entry point, Version5 EABI, soft-float ABI . . . Attribute Section: aeabi File Attributes Tag_CPU_name: 5TE Tag_CPU_arch: v5TE Tag_ARM_ISA_use: Yes Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-1 Tag_ABI_PCS_wchar_t: 4 Tag_ABI_FP_rounding: Needed Tag_ABI_FP_denormal: Needed Tag_ABI_FP_exceptions: Needed Tag_ABI_FP_number_model: IEEE 754 Tag_ABI_align_needed: 8-byte Tag_ABI_align_preserved: 8-byte, except leaf SP Tag_ABI_enum_size: int Bpa, Thanks for that. So no good for Synology armada then. I'd had only just got round to finding out which CPUs QNAP arm based used and had come to same conclusion. A pity as putting opkg for x86 on Synology was simple and worked well. Krisbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
Krisbee wrote: Well I wouldn't say compiling stuff is one of my strong points, and instructions on setting up and using the debian-chroot package are hard to find. This is what I did and assumes you are starting from scratch. ... [snip excellent detailed instructions] Thanks for that. I will give it a go this evening after work and report back. I already have the Debian Choot installed on my Synology so will be doing steps 3-12. Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK SQUEEZEBOXES:[/B] TWO SB DUETS (LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN) AND A *'PICOREPLAYER' (HTTPS://SITES.GOOGLE.COM/SITE/PICOREPLAYER/HOME) [b]Server:* Synology DS214 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.7.3 (official Synology package) *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH access point *Livingroom:* Receiver, Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver, Topping TP20 Mk2 Class T amp, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: No - HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. Battle of standards so DASH is supposed to be vendor neutral and international standard. Both can do video. HDS, HLS and DASH are all streaming protocols - a way to move data. For HL:S audio the audio is encapsulated in MPEG-TS. For audio encoding HLS defines AAC, AC-3 and MP3 and of course within each audio codec you have more classifications. Ah, OK - I didn't realise both could do video. LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: No - HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. Battle of standards so DASH is supposed to be vendor neutral and international standard. Both can do video. HDS, HLS and DASH are all streaming protocols - a way to move data. For HL:S audio the audio is encapsulated in MPEG-TS. For audio encoding HLS defines AAC, AC-3 and MP3 and of course within each audio codec you have more classifications. One thing I'm not sure about is if the mpeg2-ts decoder that is required is subject to the $2 royalty per decoder. I'm assuming most manufacturers of 'internet radios', logitech included, won't have paid this... utgg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
If ffmpeg will run on Synology on a command line as admin:user and for a BBC HLS link, but not when run as admin from LMS, then compiling another version of ffmpeg is most unlikely to help. 'Operation Not Permitted' must imply some form of permissions problem. This might be due to some form of muddle about paths, access to non-free codecs, access to a device (yes, I know that's improbable, but /dev has all sorts of weird virtual devices in it that I don't understand) or something else people haven't yet thought of. Personally I thought that the hint of an issue with Triode's Spotify mentioned a while ago looked promising. But that's just my take on what I've seen so far. When googling for answers I even found a German who had a very similar problem with a video (http://www.synology-forum.de/archive/index.html/t-52729.html?) but he got no answer. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
In his blog of 9th February, Jim Simmons of the BBC wrote all our services are now available in HLS and HDS using the AAC codec. We've had great success accessing the HLS streams for live radio thanks to bpa's PlayHLS plugin combined with ffmpeg (although the Listen Again steams have yet to be located). But I haven't heard mention in the user community of HDS - is it potentially of interest? majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin
pierrepoulpe wrote: -I don't understand the pricing levelling from mp3 streaming @5, and the flac one 4 times more expensive... Streaming FLAC files will require around 3 times more bandwidth than streaming MP3 files, and Qobuz will have to pay for the bandwidth required to bring these files from their servers to your devices. So that would at least be part of the explanation. pierrepoulpe wrote: on the other side, from the user point of view, I don't see why I would I pay more because I don't want to use a computer to play in the house music. Sure. But they need to make some profit as a company, and their streaming business isn't very profitable. So they'll use any lever they can to raise their ARPU. pierrepoulpe wrote: I don't want to show the bad path... but it may be possible to get the app id and app secret from qobuz desktop, and put it in the plugin. I wonder whether their desktop app is even using the regular API. 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97146 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
Krisbee wrote: It lets you install QNAP packages on a Synology NAS assuming the architecture works for you. Both Arm ( not sure what variety ) and x86 http://qnapware.zyxmon.org/binaries-arm/Packages.html http://qnapware.zyxmon.org/binaries-x86/Packages.html Using readelf looking at the ffmpeg executable for arm - it says it is a armv5te Code: . . . Flags: 0x5000202, has entry point, Version5 EABI, soft-float ABI . . . Attribute Section: aeabi File Attributes Tag_CPU_name: 5TE Tag_CPU_arch: v5TE Tag_ARM_ISA_use: Yes Tag_THUMB_ISA_use: Thumb-1 Tag_ABI_PCS_wchar_t: 4 Tag_ABI_FP_rounding: Needed Tag_ABI_FP_denormal: Needed Tag_ABI_FP_exceptions: Needed Tag_ABI_FP_number_model: IEEE 754 Tag_ABI_align_needed: 8-byte Tag_ABI_align_preserved: 8-byte, except leaf SP Tag_ABI_enum_size: int bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
majones wrote: In his blog of 9th February, Jim Simmons of the BBC wrote all our services are now available in HLS and HDS using the AAC codec. We've had great success accessing the HLS streams for live radio thanks to bpa's PlayHLS plugin combined with ffmpeg (although the Listen Again steams have yet to be located). But I haven't heard mention in the user community of HDS - is it potentially of interest? Isn't HDS the video equivalent of HLS? The BBC iPlayer Listen Again programmes are playing in AAC. Are they expected to change again? LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bonze wrote: Isn't HDS the video equivalent of HLS? No - HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. Battle of standards so DASH is supposed to be vendor neutral and international standard. Both can do video. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: One thing I'm not sure about is if the mpeg2-ts decoder that is required is subject to the $2 royalty per decoder. I'm assuming most manufacturers of 'internet radios', logitech included, won't have paid this... $2 royalty to unpack an mpeg2-ts? That's outrageous, are you sure? It's not that difficult to unpack a ts and it was hardly cutting edge research to create the format. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
odw199 wrote: From memory, the path is ~/Library/Cache/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCIplayer Where ~ is your home directory I have now located and verified the correct path to the menu.opml file in OSX. It is as follows From the Macintosh HD navigate through the following folders Users Select the User profile where LMS is installed. Library Caches Squeezebox Installed Plugins Plugins BBC iPlayer Here you will find menu.opml. Replace this with the relevant version - ie UK or non-Uk I also attach a screengrab which shows the folder tree. Simple enough if you can see the Hard Drive. The latest version of OSX makes it harder to find but searching in Google will give you the answers you need to make it visible if you are unsure how to uncover it. I am up and running having switched from Windows 7 at the weekend. One thing I have noticed very quickly is that LMS running on OSX seems to be much more stable than on Windows 7. Streaming no longer drops out overnight for instance. +---+ |Filename: Screen Shot OSX Menu.opml location.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17480| +---+ JPatten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
danco wrote: Yes, ffmpeg is in usr/local/bin, which I understand is correct. I could try usr/bin, but prefer it in usr/ocal/bin. I could change the plugin to look for it there if that's not the default, but anyway it is shown when I check Advanced, File Types in LMS settings. menu.opml is working fine, showing the stations. I've now checked that ffmpeg works fine from Terminal. Make sure BBCIplayer settings are set to the most comprehensive and enable transcoding. You can enable player.source to DEBUG and then try playing a stream. The log which ffmpeg is run. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin
Bandwidth costs not so much. Qobuz desktop uses the regular api, for sure. Originally I reversed the API from qobuz desktop sniffing. Today they still use it. pierrepoulpe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97146 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bonze wrote: I'm confused, is there an advantage of using HDS over HLS? Is there an advantage of WMA-Lossless over ALAC ? Not really but the vendor who gets control can direct the future. Flash died partly because Apple wouldn't allow it on their systems. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: Is there an advantage of WMA-Lossless over ALAC ? Not really but the vendor who gets control can direct the future. Flash died partly because Apple wouldn't allow it on their systems. I meant specifically in relation to the HLS streams that we are already using. Just wondering why majones was raising the question. LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
Yes, ffmpeg is in usr/local/bin, which I understand is correct. I could try usr/bin, but prefer it in usr/ocal/bin. I could change the plugin to look for it there if that's not the default, but anyway it is shown when I check Advanced, File Types in LMS settings. menu.opml is working fine, showing the stations. I've now checked that ffmpeg works fine from Terminal. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
Others will have more expertise but as a first step I would double check whether ffmpeg and menu.opml have been copied to the correct folders. Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bonze wrote: Just wondering why majones was raising the question. Ahh! Because I don't trust Apple and I'd like to think that we have the Adobe option in place if required. Same logic as the BBC themselves, I suspect! majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. I'm just wondering why the listener community is totally focused on HLS? majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: From Wikipedia: According to the MPEG-2 licensing agreement *any use of MPEG-2 technology is subject to royalties*. MPEG-2 encoders are subject to a royalty of $2.00 per unit, decoders are subject to a royalty of $2.00 per unit, and royalty-based sales of encoders and decoders are subject to different rules and $2.50 per unit.. I don't really know if that is really the case, and I agree that it would be outrageous. But if it is the case, does it cause issues for anyone providing a plugin? How would per unit apply to software? Especially software that is free? This seems like a hardware sales licence to me. Apparently ffmpeg negotiated a licence for AAC patents based on an amount per sale, which works great for ffmpeg given there aren't any sales. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: I thought it was to do with path so I rename libraries, changed permission, inserted wrong version, etc. and in all cases I got an error message that was clear (e.g. couldn't open/load file) and not operation not permitted error. However, when I changed an input decoder related option (e.g. override the number of channels) or give a ridiculous number of threads to use I got an operation not permitted error. So I am at a loss why root works and admin doesn't. I thought it might some sort of ACL based on groups but I couldn't see anything. I'm open to suggestions on what to try - I do not have the error on my system but I can change files/permission to see if I can make the error happen on my system ans as I have said only by changing decoder process options was I able to get the error message., My understanding from a rather large number of posts is that ffmpeg can even be run by admin from a command line, not just root. Is that wrong? If ordinary admin can run it OK, then: - is there an environment variable used or set by LMS that could also be affecting ffmpeg or one of the libraries it uses? - is there a resource that LMS is reserving for its sole use? - is there an unexpected resource that ffmpeg tries to reserve, even if not actually used, that LMS uses? - can any more diagnostics be got out of ffmpeg or its libraries? I know, scraping the barrel for ideas, but LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
TheLastMan wrote: Has anybody out there got it working on a Synology NAS yet? Yes, it is working for me after installing the SynoCommunity ffmpeg package: https://synocommunity.com/ Before, I had the same issues others are reporting. Tim onlyconnect's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
PasTim wrote: My understanding from a rather large number of posts is that ffmpeg can even be run by admin from a command line, not just root. Is that wrong? If ordinary admin can run it OK, then: - is there an environment variable used or set by LMS that could also be affecting ffmpeg or one of the libraries it uses? - is there a resource that LMS is reserving for its sole use? - is there an unexpected resource that ffmpeg tries to reserve, even if not actually used, that LMS uses? - can any more diagnostics be got out of ffmpeg or its libraries? I know, scraping the barrel for ideas, but Klammer (armada370 based Synology) is the only Synology with the problem persisting. ffmpeg doesn't work when run from a shell prompt under userid admin but works nder user id root. This is not the case for other Synology NASs. ffmpeg (owned by user root) when permissions set to +s will run from a shell prompt when run under user admin but not when run as part of LMS. Problem is I can't test all the questions you are asking as I don't have a NAS and Klammer doesn't have the skill to answer the questions you are asking. So all we can do is try to provoke the error message on a system where ffmpeg works and then see can it be undone on Klammer's system. As an alternative, I have gone through the ffmpeg code to see where the error is produced - unfortunately it is in a lot (but finite) of places. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
majones wrote: I'm just wondering why the listener community is totally focused on HLS? ffmpeg already handles HLS. Also, given a choice of an Adobe standard or an Apple standard, I go with Apple assuming there are no important technical differences. Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: ffmpeg already handles HLS. Also, given a choice of an Adobe standard or an Apple standard, I go with Apple assuming there are no important technical differences. And DASH would be even better if the Beeb gets round to it since it is an open international standard (what me, anti-Apple? well maybe, just a bit ;) ). I'm not 100% sure ffmpeg fully supports it yet, but there is plenty on the web about the combination. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: But if it is the case, does it cause issues for anyone providing a plugin? You must be joking! majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
PasTim wrote: If ffmpeg will run on Synology on a command line as admin:user and for a BBC HLS link, but not when run as admin from LMS, then compiling another version of ffmpeg is most unlikely to help. 'Operation Not Permitted' must imply some form of permissions problem. This might be due to some form of muddle about paths, access to non-free codecs, access to a device (yes, I know that's improbable, but /dev has all sorts of weird virtual devices in it that I don't understand) or something else people haven't yet thought of. Personally I thought that the hint of an issue with Triode's Spotify mentioned a while ago looked promising. But that's just my take on what I've seen so far. When googling for answers I even found a German who had a very similar problem with a video (http://www.synology-forum.de/archive/index.html/t-52729.html?) but he got no answer. I thought it was to do with path so I rename libraries, changed permission, inserted wrong version, etc. and in all cases I got an error message that was clear (e.g. couldn't open/load file) and not operation not permitted error. However, when I changed an input decoder related option (e.g. override the number of channels) or give a ridiculous number of threads to use I got an operation not permitted error. So I am at a loss why root works and admin doesn't. I thought it might some sort of ACL based on groups but I couldn't see anything. I'm open to suggestions on what to try - I do not have the error on my system but I can change files/permission to see if I can make the error happen on my system ans as I have said only by changing decoder process options was I able to get the error message., bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: $2 royalty to unpack an mpeg2-ts? That's outrageous, are you sure? It's not that difficult to unpack a ts and it was hardly cutting edge research to create the format. From Wikipedia: According to the MPEG-2 licensing agreement *any use of MPEG-2 technology is subject to royalties*. MPEG-2 encoders are subject to a royalty of $2.00 per unit, decoders are subject to a royalty of $2.00 per unit, and royalty-based sales of encoders and decoders are subject to different rules and $2.50 per unit.. I don't really know if that is really the case, and I agree that it would be outrageous. But if it is the case, does it cause issues for anyone providing a plugin? utgg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
majones wrote: I'm just wondering why the listener community is totally focused on HLS? I'm confused, is there an advantage of using HDS over HLS? LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: Klammer (armada370 based Synology) is the only Synology with the problem persisting. ffmpeg doesn't work when run from a shell prompt under userid admin but works nder user id root. This is not the case for other Synology NASs. Also on armda370 Synology, ffmpeg (owned by user root) when permissions set to +s will run from a shell prompt when run under user admin but not when run as part of LMS. Problem is I can't test all the questions you are asking as I don't have a NAS and Klammer doesn't have the skill to answer the questions you are asking. So all we can do is try to provoke the error message on a system where ffmpeg works and then see can it be undone on Klammer's system. As an alternative, I have gone through the ffmpeg code to see where the error is produced - unfortunately it is in a lot (but finite) of places. That said, I think long term it would be better to see if HLS/MPEGTS can be written in Perl and be part of a plugin. It would be a lighter solution and would work for all LMS users and I think might be done in less time that chasing a bug (however annoying) on one class of NAS. I don't know how the Synology LMS is set up, but on my ubuntu system the /etc/init.d/logitechmediaserver start-up file has a path like: Code: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin What PATH does root have (echo $PATH), and is the LMS path the same on that box? If this has all been checked already then please just ignore me! LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bonze wrote: ... the normally Apple loving BBC Hmm. I hadn't sussed why it's called iPlayer. So all we need to do is re-brand as iSqueezebox and all our problems will go away. majones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
PasTim wrote: I don't know how the Synology LMS is set up, but on my ubuntu system the /etc/init.d/logitechmediaserver start-up file has a path like: Code: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin What PATH does root have (echo $PATH), and is the LMS path the same on that box? If this has all been checked already then please just ignore me! Got the T-shirt for that one already. see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103158-Announce-PlayHLS-Plugin-plugin-to-play-Apple-HLS-m3u8-streamp=808418viewfull=1#post808418 bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
So everything seems to be installed ok according to the instructions, but I'm not getting any output. Running Mac OS 10.10.2 on a MacBook Pro. The Play HLS plugin is installed, as is ffmpeg from the site suggested. The File types do show ffmpeg under Apple HLS. The new version of menu.opml is installed, and seems to be working correctly. I can get to the BBC streams. But when I try to play something, there is no sound. What's the next step in debugging? What logs can I turn on? Can I get hold of a stream and test it in Terminal? If so, what's the syntax? I tried modifying the suggestions for Linux, but things are evidently slightly different. Not that I need the new stuff now, as I am in the UK, and don't have a multi-room system. But it would probably help for when the Listen Again streams get changed. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
majones wrote: Ahh! Because I don't trust Apple and I'd like to think that we have the Adobe option in place if required. Same logic as the BBC themselves, I suspect! Which would be surprising from the normally Apple loving BBC LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Is the Inguz plugin with LMS working?
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. When I tested it (using a 2 band equalizer) the sound was definitely affected. I had 2 presets - one bass -6dB/treble +6dB and the other bass +6dB/treble -6dB and there was a noticable difference between the two. For convenience, I was using the iPeng app on an iPad to control LMS/Squeezebox, though IE also seemed to work as well. I've looked in the log and there was no mention of Silverlight there. I thought that Silverlight was used for the Inguz web browser, rather than the actual processing of the audio - though I might well be wrong (I often am). Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103195 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
kingswindsor wrote: I made a previous post about a problem I am having with the stream stuttering and then stopping. It seemed to get better but for the last couple of days all I can manage is a 30-60 sec run of music/broadcast before it goes silent, then perhaps comes back once or twice for a few seconds before failing completely. The final fail is indicated by the 'play' symbol re-appearing which can be used to get it going again - intermittently, as before. I have turned up the logging and this sequence seems to be typical:-. This logging (I assume it is BBCiuPlayer plugin) is not the best for a playing stream. First what is your system - hardware and player hardware ? Then turn on logging player.source to DEBUG bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Radio 4's In Touch program for the blind today (Monday) had a segment on the problems caused by the recent changes to the BBC streams: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0537664 First piece, starts at 00:55, about six minutes. Over the past couple of weeks, listeners have been reporting that some equipment they use to access the BBC Radio iPlayer is no longer working. Dr Mike Townsend from the British Computer Association of the Blind, puts member's concerns to Andrew Scott, General Manager for BBC iPlayer. Presenter: Did you think about blind people? Scott: (paraphrased) Ummm, not really... Also a statement from Scott about on On Demand. ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
PasTim wrote: I don't suppose Klammer could change the LMS startup file PATH statement to match root's, or has that been done already, or would LMS not like that? Klammer has put support ticket into Synology and is waiting for their reply. There is no easy file editor on the NAS so editing any file has been difficult and if mistakes are made, could be hard to undo. When doing any testing, except for shell prompt tests, I have packaged any test as part of a debug version of the Plugin so that install and removal is clean. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
Thank you for contacting Synology. Apologies for the delay in replying, we are experiencing a large amount of tickets at this moment in time. Unfortunately we are not able to support issues with Logitech media server as the application was programmed and compiled by Logitech themselves. I will forward this information onto our developers for consideration with regards to the updated ffmpeg. If you have any further question please do not hesitate to get in touch. Best Regards, Mark Ealey At least Synology are taking some action on this Paul Klammer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
Well there I was innocently thinking it was just me. Stuttering playback and cutting-out playback on various Listen Again BBC shows over the last week or so on my Classics via OSX and the usually trusty iplayer plugin. But a bit of googling reveals loads (and loads and loads!) of moaning about what I now know is a change at the BBC ... but very little clear advice about what to do. So ... this is where I've had great advice in the past whenever I've had a glitch with my Squeezeboxes. What do I do now, chaps? whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: Your solution will help users by being lighter than ffmpeg. Outputting adts AAC is OK as faad is supplied with LMS (even for armv5 it is fixed point faad better than ffmpeg I think). Will you provide and support a binary for all platforms (various ReadyNAS, Synology, QNAP etc., Linux, Windows, OSX ) or rely on 3rd parties to build and host. Be clear from the start what you will and will not do - otherwise you could be overwhelmed. For a version of AlienBBC (BBCiPlayer predecessor), part of the installation would download an appropriate copy of mplayer which simplified installation. If binaries (and source) of your ffmpre replacement are included as part of the plugin for main architectures - that would simplify installation for many users and I think would be what user would appreciate rather than being Lighter. A dilemma I have at the moment is that I am reluctant to produce a V1.2 of the plugin because it would trigger an install which would overwrite all customisations users have made to the plugin files and so break their BBC radio. Including a ffmpeg replacement binary in the plugin would minimise this issue. I fully understand where you are coming from on the support issue - and I admire you for the effort you've put in recently and over the years. What I've done so far is mainly for a bit of personal interest to see if I could get the listen again HLS streams playing, as I'd found that ffmpeg wasn't able to play them. I've proved that much now - this program will play the listen again streams (and dig the required URLs out from some of the BBC's top-level json, given the 8-character id the program). But I was of course thinking this could end up being useful to others if it takes a long time (or never?) for Triode or you to do it 'properly' in Perl. So I've deliberately made it a fairly stand-alone bit of code that doesn't pull in libraries from left right and centre (it's more interesting to write your own code anyway), which makes it feasible to do a statically linked binary for easy inclusion in a plugin. But I'm not there yet. I'm only surmising that the armv5 binary should work on most, if not all, ARM based Nases plus Raspberry pi and the like. But there may still be problems there for people as I know some of the NAS manufacturer supplied LMS versions have transcoding disabled (e.g. the ZyXel one I have...). I guess I should be able to compile a single 32-bit x86 windows binary without much trouble, and also probably x86 linux binaries, but I haven't tried that yet. OSX and random other processor architectures are definitely out for me. I could supply the source code, but I think I'd be a bit embarrassed to do that as it is - it's not very professional looking and full of experimental bits (I'm happy it works reliably on the BBC streams though!). I'd prefer to spend my time experimenting with the listen again UI bits rather than tidying code... So I guess I'm not really yet in a position to support this to the level you suggest to make it appropriate to publishing. I was, I suppose, just thinking I could provide the arm binary as it is now for others just to experiment with - but with no guarantees or support. That is probably naive thinking... utgg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
PasTim wrote: Would it be possible for the install to make a backup of the current versions, just in case, and/or warn users that their customisations will be lost. Can't warn. IIRC Can't backup as I think Extensions plugin erases the plugin directory before installing the new version. I'll look again but these are the issue I've been thinking about. An option would be to create a new plugin name PlayHLSv2 and a new directory but then it gets messy moving customisations and involves mulitple restarts of LMS. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
bpa wrote: A dilemma I have at the moment is that I am reluctant to produce a V1.2 of the plugin because it would trigger an install which would overwrite all customisations users have made to the plugin files and so break their BBC radio. Including a ffmpeg replacement binary in the plugin would minimise this issue. A personal view is that it would be better to update early when it's all still fresh in people's minds, than later when some of us (well me anyway!) will have forgotten all the details. Would it be possible for the install to make a backup of the current versions, just in case, and/or warn users that their customisations will be lost. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp to MF M1 CLiC (to MF amp ESLs) Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Minimserver (server) upplay (control point) to same renderers to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to speakers/phones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop with firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
