Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote:
> Most of the suggestion are irrelevant as NpordVPN thinkyou are using a
> browser.
>
> Tell them you are using a dedicated DASH media player. No cache, no
> incognito mode, no location active, no cybersec stuff.
> DNS is same as PC. No webRTC. Do their request for IP address and
> ipleak.net
A bit of a poor follow-up response from NordVPN:
ME
My apologies - I wasn't clear about something. I'm /*not*/ using a
browser, but rather a dedicated DASH media player. No cache, no
incognito mode, no location active, no cybersec stuff. If you look
again at the two feeds I sent you, it looks to me as if the BBC's
provided feed ("llnw" in the URL) is being allowed through
NordVPN, while the ("ak" in the URL) feed is being selectively
blocked.
NordVPN
Thank you for the reply.
For the time being, we are experiencing some technical difficulties with
the BBC streaming itself, you might not be able to access it at this
time.
Regarding a specific type of media player, please try re-installing it
as that will force its cache to be cleared. See if that helps.
Let us know how it goes!
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AGB
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > I'm away from home for a few days, so can't try out the options > suggested by NordVPN: but here they are anyway - > > > NordVPN (NordVPN) > > Sep 25, 18:07 EEST > Hello, > > Thank you for your letter. > > If you are still unable to access it, please try to do the following: > > Check if your location services are disabled (GPS, etc.); > Clear your browser's cache completely (even if you tried before); > Disable CyberSec feature (MacOS(OpenVPN)/Windows/Android NordVPN > applications only); > Connect to any UK server; > Use the Incognito mode of your browser (optional); > If the issue persists, please try using a different browser. > > > Could you tell us what IP address are you seeing at > http://whatismyv6.com/ whilst connected to any of our servers as well as > attach a screenshot taken at https://ipleak.net (WebRTC and DNS > sections) for us? > > These two will help us identify whether there are any issues with your > connection. > > Let us know if you have further questions. > > _ > > END Most of the suggestion are irrelevant as NpordVPN thinkyou are using a browser. Tell them you are using a dedicated DASH media player. No cache, no incognito mode, no location active, no cybersec stuff. DNS is same as PC. No webRTC. Do their request for IP address and ipleak.net bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Done: thanks. Let's see what happens. I'm away from home for a few days, so can't try out the options suggested by NordVPN: but here they are anyway - NordVPN (NordVPN) Sep 25, 18:07 EEST Hello, Thank you for your letter. If you are still unable to access it, please try to do the following: Check if your location services are disabled (GPS, etc.); Clear your browser's cache completely (even if you tried before); Disable CyberSec feature (MacOS(OpenVPN)/Windows/Android NordVPN applications only); Connect to any UK server; Use the Incognito mode of your browser (optional); If the issue persists, please try using a different browser. Could you tell us what IP address are you seeing at http://whatismyv6.com/ whilst connected to any of our servers as well as attach a screenshot taken at https://ipleak.net (WebRTC and DNS sections) for us? These two will help us identify whether there are any issues with your connection. Let us know if you have further questions. _ END AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > I'm a believer in simple messages. > > Just ask nordVPN why does this UK BBC Radio three URL fail > http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd > > and this UK BBC Radio three work > > http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd Done: thanks. Let's see what happens. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > As I'm a long-term NordVPN business customer (and the OP in this > thread), I'd be happy to do this. However, I'm far from a technical > expert!!! If anyone would like to give me the text of exactly what I > should say in a Support / Bug Ticket, I'll let them know. I'm a believer in simple messages. Just ask nordVPN why does this UK BBC Radio three URL fail http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd and this UK BBC Radio three work http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak" > > > The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw" > > > Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN > > > > I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but > not Limelight one - perhapos this should be noted to NordVPN. As I'm a long-term NordVPN buisness customer (and the OP in this thread), I'd be happy to do this. However, I'm far from a technical expert!!! If anyone would like to give me the text of exactly what I should say in a Support / Bug Ticket, I'll let them know. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
castalla wrote: > Agreed. Wih the kodi plugin you can specify the CDN - so a test is easy > - akamai either works or it doesn't! IIRC In one my of 1.5.* test version I had such a setting but nobody saw the need or wanted it. I added the "alt CN" menus as an alterntaive although there is no option for "Listen Again" bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > What is odd is the OP is able to use BBCiPlayer TV so perhaps behind the > scene the iPlayer tries both CDNs and goes with the one that works - > only way to prove that would be to examine network traffic which is too > hard to describe remotely. Agreed. Wih the kodi plugin you can specify the CDN - so a test is easy - akamai either works or it doesn't! LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
castalla wrote: > Akamai video feeds on iPlayer (Kodi plugin) are often blocked also - FYI What is odd is the OP is able to use BBCiPlayer TV so perhaps behind the scene the iPlayer tries both CDNs and goes with the one that works - only way to prove that would be to examine network traffic which is too hard to describe remotely. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak" > > > The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw" > > > Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN > > > > I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but > not Limelight one - perhapos this should be noted to NordVPN. Akamai video feeds on iPlayer (Kodi plugin) are often blocked also - FYI LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak" > > R3 BBCiplayer - With VPN **Not Working** (as before) > iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three > The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw" > > R3 BBCiPlayer With VPN **Works Fine** > iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three > > Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN > R3 BBCiPlayer < Listen Live mp3 BBC Radio 3 320kbps AAC UK only> with > VPN **Not Working** > iplayer://live?aac=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three > > I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but not Limelight one - perhapos this should be noted to NordVPN. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > I wonder if this was a tweak done in 1.5.4. Anyhow you should upgrade > to V1.6.0 (available last night) to fix latest BBC problem which broke > "Listen Again". > > Not the Settings - the normal Home/Radio/BBCiPlayer menu whose top two > entries are "Listen Live" and "Listen Live (non-UK)" - the last tthree > entries are "Listen Live alt CDN" and "Listen Live (non-UK) alt CDN" > and "Listen Live MP3" OK, here we go, all with VPN active, sitting here in wet Paris. R3 BBCiplayer - With VPN **Not Working** (as before) iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three R3 BBCiPlayer With VPN **Works Fine** iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three R3 BBCiPlayer With VPN **Works Fine** iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/nonuk/dash_low/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three R3 BBCiPlayer with VPN **Works Fine** iplayer://live?mp3=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio3_mf_p=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three R3 BBCiPlayer < Listen Live mp3 BBC Radio 3 320kbps AAC UK only> with VPN **Not Working** iplayer://live?aac=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three R3 Via my long-term saved AAC Favorite iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/logos/radio3_logomobile1-1.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100 Info Log to follow in next message END AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > OK - thanks, as ever. > > An oddity: LMS > SETTINGS > PLUGINS > > has something I have never seen before. Right down at the bottom of the > page, between the last of the unchecked OTHER THIRD PARTY PLUGINS and > UPDATE PLUGINS are two new lines, > > bpa - BBCiPlayer with BBC DASH support > > bpa's iHeart Radio Plugins Short > > with an ENABLE button. I hit that and, going back to the LMS iPlayer > menus, the alt CDN options have appeared! > > Anyway, I'll find time to run and log some tests later today. And I'll > of course check that the original "fault" is still there before trying > the altCDN route. That is the automagic update process. You should be on V1.6.0 now. No core difference between 1.5.* anbd 1.6.*. I am inbvestigating how nordVPN uses DNS - it seems it requires DNS requests to go to its VPN DNS server and I need to check LMS DNS handling. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > I wonder if this was a tweak done in 1.5.4. Anyhow you should upgrade > to V1.6.0 (available last night) to fix latest BBC problem which broke > "Listen Again". > > Not the Settings - the normal Home/Radio/BBCiPlayer menu whose top two > entries are "Listen Live" and "Listen Live (non-UK)" - the last tthree > entries are "Listen Live alt CDN" and "Listen Live (non-UK) alt CDN" > and "Listen Live MP3" OK - thanks, as ever. An oddity: LMS > SETTINGS > PLUGINS has something I have never seen before. Right down at the bottom of the page, between the last of the unchecked OTHER THIRD PARTY PLUGINS and UPDATE PLUGINS are two new lines, bpa - BBCiPlayer with BBC DASH support bpa's iHeart Radio Plugins Short with an ENABLE button. I hit that and, going back to the LMS iPlayer menus, the alt CDN options have appeared! Anyway, I'll find time to run and log some tests later today. And I'll of course check that the original "fault" is still there before trying the altCDN route. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > I'm not seeing that option in the LMS BBC iPlayer menus > > From LMS, I've also tried >SETTINGS > PLUGINS > BBC iPLAYER > but I'm > not seeing an > alt CDN option (the last line being > BUFFER FULLNESS > THRESHOLD.) > > What am I failing to see? I wonder if this was a tweak done in 1.5.4. Anyhow you should upgrade to V1.6.0 (available last night) to fix latest BBC problem which broke "Listen Again". Not the Settings - the normal Home/Radio/BBCiPlayer menu whose top two entries are "Listen Live" and "Listen Live (non-UK)" - the last tthree entries are "Listen Live alt CDN" and "Listen Live (non-UK) alt CDN" and "Listen Live MP3" bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > I'm not seeing that option in the LMS BBC iPlayer menus > > From LMS, I've also tried >SETTINGS > PLUGINS > BBC iPLAYER > but I'm > not seeing an > alt CDN option (the last line being > BUFFER FULLNESS > THRESHOLD.) > > What am I failing to see? My apologies: found it! Will try later and report back... AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Thanks for taking the time for looking at it all! Puzzling. Two > things: > > - The VPN being blocked is odd (reminder: I use NordVPN; I'll try and > test a different one in due course). Simultaneously with running the > VPN-enabled radio tests, I was downloading the latest Bodyguard TV > episode via the BBC online iPlayer app! Odd to think that genteel R3 is > fussier than the money-hungry TV folks! > I'm puzzled too - what I needed to confirm that the plugin itself was working under normal conditions. So the issues is somehow related to thetype of VPN. I wonder whether the VPN "knows" about BBCiPlayer app and WebUI (e.g. via the Http UserAgent headers) and takes special measures. I'm looking around to see if other info about NordVPN. > - I don't understand the CDN thing Can you let me know exactly what > I am looking for, and where? CDN - Content Delivery Network. BBC don't own or run the many servers which needed to stream the data - they subcontract them to two CDNs: Akamai and Limelight Networks. When starting to playing a Live or Listen Again the BBC top level URL returns a choice of two URLs - an Akamai service or a Limelight service. BBCiPlayer plugin default chooses Akamai but in the main BBC Iplayer menu, at the bottom there are "alt CDN" menus which chooses Limelight. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > Logs show the VPN is being blocked by BBC. The plugin works OK when > playing a non UK stream. For completeness you could try the alternate > CDN Limelight instead of akamai via the "listen Live alt CDN" menu. > > The log also show very poor performance of the playing BBC link with > many packets taking between 1-2 secs from BBC to player which should be > about 100-200ms. Thanks for taking the time for looking at it all! Puzzling. Two things: - The VPN being blocked is odd (reminder: I use NordVPN; I'll try and test a different one in due course). Simultaneously with running the VPN-enabled radio tests, I was downloading the latest Bodyguard TV episode via the BBC online iPlayer app! Odd to think that genteel R3 is fussier than the money-hungry TV folks! - I don't understand the CDN thing Can you let me know exactly what I am looking for, and where? Cheers from Paris, AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > And here are the error logs relating to the iPlayer efforts above. Logs show the VPN is being blocked by BBC. The plugin works OK when playing a non UK stream. For completeness you could try the alternate CDN Limelight instead of akamai via the "listen Live alt CDN" menu. The log also show very poor performance of the playing BBC link with many packets taking between 1-2 secs from BBC to player which should be about 100-200ms. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > As you noted above, it's difficult to reproduce the "fault" without > ready access to know region-restricted streams. > > > ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three > > > Error logs to follow. > > END And here are the error logs relating to the iPlayer efforts above. Best Regards,25654 +---+ |Filename: Update 2 Error Log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25654| +---+ AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > I understand that you tried the LMS BBC App which is MP3 but without > trying both DASH non-UK stream and DASH UK stream to be compared - I > cannot characterise the problem. The plugin works for many others - so > your issue seems to be something to do with VPN. The fact that MP3 > stream plays OK is interesting but it is streamed through Shoutcast > whereas the DASH stream are provided by CDN akamai or Limelight networks > and one of the possible next step woiuld be to see if different CDNs > behave differently with the VPN. As you noted above, it's difficult to reproduce the "fault" without ready access to know region-restricted streams. But to at least bed down when I am so far, I did a systematic run though of all my ways of accessing Beeb radio via LMS, both with and without VPN, using R3 as the test bed. I also checked beforehand that this laptop, sitting in Paris, can get direct website access to almost all BBC TV and radio with the VPN active, and a lot of it without the VPN. But, without the VPN, region restrictions - particularly on TV stuff, do kick in. Anyway here - at some length! - is what I found. I'll post a separate message with the assorted error logs relating to this test series. So, via my LMS setup I have 5 ways of trying to get R3 streams, and I can also try each of the 5 ways with and without the VPN. A) **With VPN** - i, ii, iii, iv work fine, but v does not i) R3 AAC (Saved Favorite) Works Fine iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/logos/radio3_logomobile1-1.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100 ii) R3 MP3 (Saved Favorite) Works Fine http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls iii) R3 LMS BBC App - Works Fine http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls iv) R3 BBC iPlayer Works Fine iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/nonuk/dash_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three [**NB however, streams will usually block region-restricted Sports Broadcasts on various channels such as R4LW and R5 Sports Extra, as discussed**] v) R3 BBC iPlayer **Not Working** , though Logo is showing on player and on LMS iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three **this with a VPN would not earlier play any region-restricted stuff either on any stream** B) Without VPN - a), b), c), d) Work Fine, but e) does not a) R3 AAC (Saved Favorite) Works Fine iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/logos/radio3_logomobile1-1.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100 b) R3 MP3 (Saved Favorite) - Works Fine http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls c) R3 LMS BBC App - Works Fine http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls d) R3 BBC iPlayer - Works Fine iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/nonuk/dash_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three e) R3 BBC iPlayer **Not Working** , though Logo is showing on player and on LMS iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three Error logs to follow. END AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
ian_heys wrote: > I noticed this article yesterday: > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45499784 > > There is a slightly worrying use of the term compression towards the end > of the article. > > The same effect is apparent on BBC iPlayer Radio Live Streams when the > time signal pips are heard about 35 - 40 seconds after the same on Live > FM Radio. (Here in the UK). > > Let's hope they don't try to cure this with "compression" too. > > Edit: Further reading here refers also to audio streaming and dispels > some of my concern: > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2018-09-latency-video-streaming This is way off topic - so no need to continue beyond this post. LIve streams over data networks have lots of problems that can only be mitigated never eliminated - and comparing a multi hop data broadcast to a single hop broadcast (even satellite) will always show these problems - I beleiev one of the current solution actually every so often is to chop a bit of audio out of data stream to catch up to realtime. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
I noticed this article yesterday: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45499784 There is a slightly worrying use of the term compression towards the end of the article. The same effect is apparent on BBC iPlayer Radio Live Streams when the time signal pips are heard about 35 - 40 seconds after the same on Live FM Radio. (Here in the UK). Let's hope they don't try to cure this with "compression" too. *Music Store & VPN Server: *Synology DS215J NAS* Home Server/Player:* LMS 7.9.2 on Pi 3B piCorePlayer v4.0 Server/IQAudio Digi+ *Homeplug & LAN Players: *Squeezelite on Windows 10 PC *UPNP Wifi Players:* Samsung Soundbar, Chromecast Audio/Video, Revo Super-Connect Radio, GGMM-E5 portable *VPN Mobile & Car Player:* SqueezeControl/SqueezePlayer on Android Phone ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > And, just to follow up on something specific that I'd said earlier: > > "B) Second, trying the region-restricted sports commentaries on R4LW > - using NordVPN: LMS BBC App worked for R4LW" > > I did that several times, keeping careful notes! With the NordVPN > active, there was a route to an region-restricted BBC sports stream, via > LMS's own app. But *not* via the iPlayer Squeezebox App. In a sense, no > big deal. I could nevertheless get - from non-UK - region-restricted > sports stuff via LMS' own BBC App, or via their generous YouTube feed. > But I've been a Triode BBC iPlayer guy from way back when And > that's what I thought would work (but didn't) I understand that you tried the LMS BBC App which is MP3 but without trying both DASH non-UK stream and DASH UK stream to be compared - I cannot characterise the problem. The plugin works for many others - so your issue seems to be something to do with VPN. The fact that MP3 stream plays OK is interesting but it is streamed through Shoutcast whereas the DASH stream are provided by CDN akamai or Limelight networks and one of the possible next step woiuld be to see if different CDNs behave differently with the VPN. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > Your 2 logs of with and without VPN are both using the UK only URLs - I > cannot see any attempt to use non-UK streams. > > The error is as expected > > Code: > > > [18-09-11 18:32:21.6883] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed URL: http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourlw/bbc_radio_fourlw.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourlw-audio=32.dash > [18-09-11 18:32:21.6963] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (743) Aborting stream - fatal error fetching [240106798] Status=403 Reason: Forbidden Fetch time 507 ms > > > > and > > Code: > > > [18-09-11 11:28:27.2362] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed URL: http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourfm/bbc_radio_fourfm.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourfm-audio=32-240102824.m4s > [18-09-11 11:28:47.0796] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (743) Aborting stream - fatal error fetching [0] Status=403 Reason: Forbidden Fetch time 25 ms > > > > > It looks like the BBC can detect your VPN as a known VPN and is > blocking it. The plugin is making a standard HTTP request sent over > PC network interface - and BBC's CDN Akamai is rejecting it. The > plugin can do nothing about this. > > What I cannot understand is that you say from same PC using same > network interface using BBC Browser radio - you can play the DASH UK > streams (i.e. R4LW TMS). I need to find a restricted broadcast over > the next few days and devise a test. > > As a sanity check - the audio chunks are timestamped so 240102824 is > for 11 September 2018 09:27:53 GMT. This chunk is logged by LMS at > 18-09-11 11:28:27.2362 - are you in Central European Summer time > (GMT+2) ? And, just to follow up on something specific that I'd said earlier: "B) Second, trying the region-restricted sports commentaries on R4LW - using NordVPN: LMS BBC App worked for R4LW" I did that several times, keeping careful notes! With the NordVPN active, there was a route to an region-restricted BBC sports stream, via LMS's own app. But *not* via the iPlayer Squeezebox App. In a sense, no big deal. I could nevertheless get - from non-UK - region-restricted sports stuff via LMS' own BBC App, or via their generous YouTube feed. But I've been a Triode BBC iPlayer guy from way back when And that's what I thought would work (but didn't) Cheers, AGB AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote:
> Your 2 logs of with and without VPN are both using the UK only URLs - I
> cannot see any attempt to use non-UK streams.
>
> The error is as expected
> >
Code:
> >
> [18-09-11 18:32:21.6883] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed
URL:
http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourlw/bbc_radio_fourlw.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourlw-audio=32.dash
> [18-09-11 18:32:21.6963] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (743) Aborting
stream - fatal error fetching [240106798] Status=403 Reason: Forbidden Fetch
time 507 ms
> >
>
> and
> >
Code:
> >
> [18-09-11 11:28:27.2362] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed
URL:
http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourfm/bbc_radio_fourfm.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourfm-audio=32-240102824.m4s
> [18-09-11 11:28:47.0796] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (743) Aborting
stream - fatal error fetching [0] Status=403 Reason: Forbidden Fetch time 25
ms
>
> >
>
> It looks like the BBC can detect your VPN as a known VPN and is
> blocking it. The plugin is making a standard HTTP request sent over
> PC network interface - and BBC's CDN Akamai is rejecting it. The
> plugin can do nothing about this.
>
> What I cannot understand is that you say from same PC using same
> network interface using BBC Browser radio - you can play the DASH UK
> streams (i.e. R4LW TMS). I need to find a restricted broadcast over
> the next few days and devise a test.
>
> As a sanity check - the audio chunks are timestamped so 240102824 is
> for 11 September 2018 09:27:53 GMT. This chunk is logged by LMS at
> 18-09-11 11:28:27.2362 - are you in Central European Summer time
> (GMT+2) ?
Just for the moment on the Sanity Check issue, yes, I am in Paris,
France.
On the other issues: that's my basic puzzle. Using the VPN I can usually
get 'net access to assorted BBC streams, even when region-restricted.
But I can't do so via LMS and its assorted apps. On verra ("We shall
see", as we say here in France...).
Again, **thank you** for your time: this is an astonishingly generous
community.
AGB
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
Your 2 logs of with and without VPN are both using the UK only URLs - I cannot see any attempt to use non-UK streams. The error is as expected Code: [18-09-11 18:32:21.6883] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed URL: http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourlw/bbc_radio_fourlw.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourlw-audio=32.dash [18-09-11 18:32:21.6963] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (743) Aborting stream - fatal error fetching [240106798] Status=403 Reason: Forbidden Fetch time 507 ms and Code: [18-09-11 11:28:27.2362] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed URL: http://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.net/pool_6/live/bbc_radio_fourfm/bbc_radio_fourfm.isml/dash/bbc_radio_fourfm-audio=32-240102824.m4s [18-09-11 11:28:47.0796] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (743) Aborting stream - fatal error fetching [0] Status=403 Reason: Forbidden Fetch time 25 ms It looks like the BBC can detect your VPN as a known VPN and is blocking it. The plugin is making a standard HTTP request sent over PC network interface - and BBC's CDN Akamai is rejecting it. The plugin can do nothing about this. What I cannot understand is that you say from same PC using same network interface using BBC Browser radio - you can play the DASH UK streams (i.e. R4LW TMS). I need to find a restricted broadcast over the next few days and devise a test. As a sanity check - the audio chunks are timestamped so 240102824 is for 11 September 2018 09:27:53 GMT. This chunk is logged by LMS at 18-09-11 11:28:27.2362 - are you in Central European Summer time (GMT+2) ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > If there are significant errors, the plugin will produce error mesages > in the log file without any additional changes. > > To get the plugin to produce additional info, you set the log control > plugin.bbciplayer and plugin.bbciplayer.dash to INFO. The player.source > can be left at ERROR as log levels are reset on LMS restart. > > Looking at previous occurances of this error and some (not all) users > had an ISP / VPN root cause. > > Unfortunately, the next 1-2days is v. busy for me and I probbaly won't > be able to get on the forum until late Weds. OK, here's what I tried today (and again, I know you are busy for a few days!). With Log attached. This is all LMS, on the same laptop from which I tried the net streams referred to in the previous post. I'm in Paris, and tired various options both with and without a VPN. A) First a regular R4FM stream, without any of the sports commentary regional restrictions - using NordVPN: works on the LMS BBC app and on iPlayer . - using NordVPN: Did not work on iPlayer : "Can't Find File". - without any VPN: works on the LMS BBC app, and on iPlayer - without any VPN: Did not work on iPlayer : "Can't Find File". So, that seems all as expected. B) Second, trying the region-restricted sports commentaries on R4LW - using NordVPN: LMS BBC App worked for R4LW - using NordVPN: iPlayer was either silent with a "File Not Found" message () or Rights Restriction Audio Message () - without any VPN: LMS BBC App had Rights Restriction Audio Message - without any VPN: iPlayer was either silent with a "File Not Found" message () or Rights Restriction Audio Message () So, only the LMS BBC App worked, and only using a VPN. Hope that's clear! Cheers. +---+ |Filename: Update 1 - LMS Error Log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25581| +---+ AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > To check whether problem is LMS or network. You can test BBC DASH > stream using BBC Web pages as long as browser is setup NOT to use Flash > - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5 . When BBC web pages are setup to use > HTML5 they are using DASH for video and audio. > > Use a Browser (I prefer Firefox/Chrome - not sure about MS ones or > Safari) on same PC as LMS and try playing BBC Web page live radio audio > using HTML5 - the plugin should work exactly the same with same > restrictions as its DASH code runs in LMS. OK No reply expected to this as you're busy, but this is the first set of results, using browser access rather then LMS (which I'll do this afternoon). Using Firefox, from same laptop where LMS is installed, and with Flash DISABLED in F'fox options. And I'm sitting in Paris. A) Direct access, no VPN. Radio 4 FM stream works fine; R3 Stream works fine. R5 Live Sports Extra (Live cricket commentary: https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/cricket/43878000) - Silence and an error message. I'm assuming there's a region restriction. B) NordVPN connection to UK server R4 FM stream works fine; R3 Stream works fine R5 Live Sports Extra (Live cricket commentary: https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/cricket/43878000) - works fine [So, it thinks I'm in the UK]. I also tried assorted websites on the BBC that have strict region restrictions [eg, the TV iPlayer] and they all worked fine under the VPN. [There's no net access to R4 LW, which is also carrying the cricket, so I can't check that out here, as I will be able to do via LMS.] So, the VPN is not causing me a problem via laptop net access, so far as I can tell. [An aside for cricket fans: this year, for non-UK residents, the BBC have also provided access to the TMS Live Commentary via a YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VfC8Y6nsVY which is very nice of them! For me, I can access that with no VPN, but *with* the VPN, I'm blocked, as it's strictly non-UK.] AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
To check whether problem is LMS or network. You can test BBC DASH stream using BBC Web pages as long as browser is setup NOT to use Flash - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5 . When BBC web pages are setup to use HTML5 they are using DASH for video and audio. Use a Browser (I prefer Firefox/Chrome - not sure about MS ones or Safari) on same PC as LMS and try playing BBC Web page live radio audio using HTML5 - the plugin should work exactly the same with same restrictions as its DASH code runs in LMS. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > The baseline to get working is a live non UK playing "normal" programs > (e.g. R2 or R3) using DASH. Once that is working then problems brought > by restrictions/geo locking can be isolated. Got it. Will do. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Hey, no problem! You are quite generous enough with your time anyway! > I'll come at the problems several ways today, and log them all. Today > is a good day, as assorted access routes to the Radio4 LW stream will be > region-restricted, as it's live sports commentary. So I can try VPN / > not VPN; and all the different paths into the commentary (via a net > browser, via the LMS BBC app, via the iPlayer, both UK and non-UK. > We'll crack it! The baseline to get working is a live non UK playing "normal" programs (e.g. R2 or R3) using DASH. Once that is working then problems brought by restrictions/geo locking can be isolated. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > If there are significant errors, the plugin will produce error mesages > in the log file without any additional changes. > > To get the plugin to produce additional info, you set the log control > plugin.bbciplayer and plugin.bbciplayer.dash to INFO. The player.source > can be left at ERROR as log levels are reset on LMS restart. > > Looking at previous occurances of this error and some (not all) users > had an ISP / VPN root cause. > > Unfortunately, the next 1-2days is v. busy for me and I probbaly won't > be able to get on the forum until late Weds. Hey, no problem! You are quite generous enough with your time anyway! I'll come at the problems several ways today, and log them all. Today is a good day, as assorted access routes to the Radio4 LW stream will be region-restricted, as it's live sports commentary. So I can try VPN / not VPN; and all the different paths into the commentary (via a net browser, via the LMS BBC app, via the iPlayer, both UK and non-UK. We'll crack it! AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > So, I shall have time later today to go through all this thoroughly. > But a question before I get too far, about Logging. Under LOGGING> > PLEASE SELECT LOG SET which option should I choose? > > And, I've updated the LMS Server itself to the latest public version. If there are significant errors, the plugin will produce error mesages in the log file without any additional changes. To get the plugin to produce additional info, you set the log control plugin.bbciplayer and plugin.bbciplayer.dash to INFO. The player.source can be left at ERROR as log levels are reset on LMS restart. Looking at previous occurances of this error and some (not all) users had an ISP / VPN root cause. Unfortunately, the next 1-2days is v. busy for me and I probbaly won't be able to get on the forum until late Weds. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > Fogot to add - once changed to DASH please try to play a live non UK > sttaion and then check if there are any error or warning messages from > Plugin::BBCiPlayer in log file So, I shall have time later today to go through all this thoroughly. But a question before I get too far, about Logging. Under LOGGING> PLEASE SELECT LOG SET which option should I choose? And, I've updated the LMS Server itself to the latest public version. Cheers AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
Fogot to add - once changed to DASH please try to play a live non UK sttaion and then check if there are any error or warning messages from Plugin::BBCiPlayer in log file bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Ahh - my apologies. It's set as HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 as is On > Demand Stream Preference [I guess it installed with those settings?] > > And just below that is 2 x Use Highest Bitrate Setting Dash Stream. > > So, I should change one (? or both ?) of the first settings to "DASH > > HLS > MP3> Flashacc" ? Yes please change both to use DASH first. I can't debug HLS streams as I have no reference player and I wrote the DASH stuff so I know the what its logging looks like.. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > [ > > The log was good. It tells me that new plugin is installed but uis try > to play HLS format. > > Can you check the change that BBCiPlayer Setting "Live Preference" > setting is "DASH > HLS > MP3> Flashacc" ? Ahh - my apologies. It's set as HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 as is On Demand Stream Preference [I guess it installed with those settings?] And just below that is 2 x Use Highest Bitrate Setting Dash Stream. So, I should change one (? or both ?) of the first settings to "DASH > HLS > MP3> Flashacc" ? AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
[agbagb wrote: > Actually have a few moments this evening.. I've not used Logging > before, so I hope the attached zip is what you need. If not, let me > know and I'll get back at it tomorrow morning. The log was good. It tells me that new plugin is installed but uis try to play HLS format. Can you check the change that BBCiPlayer Setting "Live Preference" setting is "DASH > HLS > MP3> Flashacc" ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > If it happens for Touch then all players will be affected. > > The LMS WebUI Setting/Plugin page does show the plugin "active" and > version 1.5.3 > There are no problem with plugin setting ? > When you try to play a station do any logo or station picture appear > (they are processed independent of audio) ? > I'm curious to get an idea whether plugin has installed OK. Yes - Active Plugin Settings all seem correct (according to what you've said earlier in the thread, and they are not things I ever mess with after installation) Yes - I get the station logo / picture overlaid with the error message each time I hit Play AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Thanks - will try all that tomorrow morning, and report back. But many > thanks for your time and suggestions so far. BTW, I've just replicated > the same Touch fault message on a Radio too. Actually have a few moments this evening.. I've not used Logging before, so I hope the attached zip is what you need. If not, let me know and I'll get back at it tomorrow morning. +---+ |Filename: LMS iPlayer Error Log.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25575| +---+ AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Thanks - will try all that tomorrow morning, and report back. But many > thanks for your time and suggestions so far. BTW, I've just replicated > the same Touch fault message on a Radio too. If it happens for Touch then all players will be affected. The LMS WebUI Setting/Plugin page does show the plugin "active" and version 1.5.3 There are no problem with plugin setting ? When you try to play a station do any logo or station picture appear (they are processed independent of audio) ? I'm curious to get an idea whether plugin has installed OK. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > One user of VPNs last week had to update their VPN as BBC blocked it so > just consider this as a possibility. That said it shouldn't affect > non-uk stations. MP3 are considered non-UK > > The "Can't Open file for" is unusual whgen playing on a Touch as there > should be no transcoding needed. > > Mkae sure BBCiPlayer plugin Live and On-demand Preference Setting is > "DASH > HLS > MP3 > Flashaac" > > 1. On WebUI Setting/Advanced/Logging enable player.source to INFO. > 2. Note time. > 3. Try to play a BBC Live non-UK station > 4. After error message - clear Playlist > 5. Note time. > 6. Copy ALL message between times notes in Step 2 & 5, save in a text > file (e.g. Open Wordpad not Notepad and use copy & paste), zip and > attach to a post. > > edit: > > One of the bonus of using DASH is that like BBC web site - you can > rewind "live" broadcast back up to about 3 hours. Thanks - will try all that tomorrow morning, and report back. But many thanks for your time and suggestions so far. BTW, I've just replicated the same Touch fault message on a Radio too. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > I'm connecting to the net in France, but using a VPN into the UK. I can > get live access to most BBC region-restricted sites and streams via LMS > (+ net access to the TV iPlayer). One user of VPNs last week had ro update their VPN as BBC blocked it. The "Can't Open file for" is unusual whgen playing on a Touch as there should be no transcoding needed. Mkae sure BBCiPlayer plugin Live and On-demand Preference Setting is "DASH > HLS > MP3 > Flashaac" 1. On WebUI Setting/Advanced/Logging enable player.source to INFO. 2. Note time. 3. Try to play a BBC Live non-UK station 4. After error message - clear Playlist 5. Note time. 6. Copy ALL message between times notes in Step 2 & 5, save in a text file (e.g. Open Wordpad not Notepad and use copy & paste), zip and attach to a post. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > That version barely worked on Windows when it came out - I'm v. > surprised you heard anything. > If you only listen to Live streams - would the MP3 stream of the > Logitech BBC App be adequate ? It may not be if you want to listen say > country cricket. > > The googlecode URL has been out of date for abotu 2 years. This is the > latest version but I'm not sure about running LMS 7.7 - should eb OK > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml OK - still no Listen Live. I've rebooted everything. I've updated BBC iPlayer to 1.5.3, with that new repository setting you gave me. I'm connecting to the net in France, but using a VPN into the UK. I can get live access to most BBC region-restricted sites and streams via LMS (+ net access to the TV iPlayer). Currently I'm listening to R4 LW (TMS - a real thriller today!) via the Logitech internal BBC: http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_fourlw.pls Try to go BBC iPlayer>Listen Live>BBC Radio 4 LW and I get nothing except this message on the Touch screen: "Problem: Can't Open File For: BBC R4 LW" Likewise for any other BBC live stream via the iPlayer. What else can I try? AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > Quick update pre-reboots etc etc. > > - I'm on an old iPlayer version: 1.3.1 Alpha3. I guess I ought to > update. > - Going into LMS Settings, Plugins, I see at the top of the list of > plugins: "Bad repository > http://bpaplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/repo-short.xml - 404 Not > Found". That looks not right? > - My Live Stream is (and always has been): HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 , > as is my On Demand > > More later.. That version barely worked on Windows when it came out - I'm v. surprised you heard anything. If you only listen to Live streams - would the MP3 stream of the Logitech BBC App be adequate ? It may not be if you want to listen say country cricket. The googlecode URL has been out of date for abotu 2 years. This is the latest version but I'm not sure about running LMS 7.7 - should eb OK http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > I'll get back to you on the rest later, but a couple of quick points: > - The "Owing to Rights" is quite common on live sports commentary > streams (so, if out of UK, you need to VPN into the UK-only stream) > - Oddly, my saved BBC Favorites have been unchanged for months (and some > of them, years...) without any problems at all. I save them into > my.SB.com, so that I get the same list on any device or any version of > LMS. > > I can't reboot until after lunch, so I'll report back then! Quick update pre-reboots etc etc. - I'm on an old iPlayer version: 1.3.1 Alpha3. I guess I ought to update. - Going into LMS Settings, Plugins, I see at the top of the list of plugins: "Bad repository http://bpaplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/repo-short.xml - 404 Not Found". That looks not right? - My Live Stream is (and always has been): HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 , as is my On Demand More later.. AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > I'll get back to you on the rest later, but a couple of quick points: > - The "Owing to Rights" is quite common on live sports commentary > streams (so, if out of UK, you need to VPN into the UK-only stream) You're right but your title implied any Live BBC stream > - Oddly, my saved BBC Favorites have been unchanged for months (and some > of them, years...) without any problems at all. I save them into > my.SB.com, so that I get the same list on any device or any version of > LMS. If they are BBC MP3 stream then yes you should have no problem or possible an "iplay:" live URL but user can save other URLs from BBC iPlayer plugin which will work for a while and then stop - so more info is always helpful (e.g. give the URL you are using ) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
bpa wrote: > Whater vwersion of BBC Ipplayer plugin ? > What setting to play LIve stream ? > > I'm non-uk and Listen Live works OK for so it seems like an issue > specific to you or your locale ( streaming is organised into have > regions). > > "Can't Open file for" - is unusual for Touch as BBC uses AAC and Touc > can play and "RAdio" shoudl nto appear on that message. > "owing to Rights" - that can occur on a podcast but not live stream. > > I wouldn't trust Favorites saved from BBC Iplayer as BBC URLs are > dynamic and not a static value. Are these MP3 stream or HLS/DASH ? > > I suggest reboot everything including router - just to clear out any > possble cached errors. I'll get back to you on the rest later, but a couple of quick points: - The "Owing to Rights" is quite common on live sports commentary streams (so, if out of UK, you need to VPN into the UK-only stream) - Oddly, my saved BBC Favorites have been unchanged for months (and some of them, years...) without any problems at all. I save them into my.SB.com, so that I get the same list on any device or any version of LMS. I can't reboot until after lunch, so I'll report back then! AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
agbagb wrote: > 'Morning All, > > Haven't made any changes to my system for quite a while, but today I > can't get the "Listen Live" on BBC iPlayer to stream any radio at all: > the Touch screen gives me a "Problem: Can't Open File for Radio > [Whatever]". > > Oddly, if I go into the "Listen Live (Non-UK)" option, I can get some > radio, or at least the "Owing to Rights Issues." message. > > And, perhaps even odder, if I go to radio channels from the iPlayer that > I've saved to my Favorites, they play fine. For assorted reasons I've > never saved the various channels that carry Test Match Special, usually > accessing them direct via the iPlayer: but, today, nothing > > I can get the TMS strean on my laptop via the R5 Sports webpage. > > Any ideas? Whater vwersion of BBC Ipplayer plugin ? What setting to play LIve stream ? I'm non-uk and Listen Live works OK for so it seems like an issue specific to you or your locale ( streaming is organised into have regions). "Can't Open file for" - is unusual for Touch as BBC uses AAC and Touc can play and "RAdio" shoudl nto appear on that message. "owing to Rights" - that can occur on a podcast but not live stream. I wouldn't trust Favorites saved from BBC Iplayer as BBC URLs are dynamic and not a static value. Are these MP3 stream or HLS/DASH ? I suggest reboot everything including router - just to clear out any possble cached errors. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer "Listen Live" Not Working?
'Morning All, Haven't made any changes to my system for quite a while, but today I can't get the "Listen Live" on BBC iPlayer to stream any radio at all: the Touch screen gives me a "Problem: Can't Open File for Radio [Whatever]". Oddly, if I go into the "Listen Live (Non-UK)" option, I can get some radio, or at least the "Owing to Rights Issues." message. And, perhaps even odder, if I go to radio channels from the iPlayer that I've saved to my Favorites, they play fine. For assorted reasons I've never saved the various channels that carry Test Match Special, usually accessing them direct via the iPlayer: but, today, nothing I can get the TMS strean on my laptop via the R5 Sports webpage. Any ideas? AGB Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 @ Thu Nov 27 07:38:09 CUT 2014 Operating system: Windows 10 Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice) USA: LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2 1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676) Controller: 7.7.2-r9663 France: Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox 1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137) 2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) Controller: 7.7.1-r9557 3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676 agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109434 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
Triode;642857 Wrote: Try disabling AAC native on the setting page. Sorry for the delay in getting back. This seems to have fixed the problem - thanks very much. But am I losing anything in the process? Is this a lower quality stream? It still says 128kbit AAC / 320 kbit AAC so I guess not. -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
rbl;651924 Wrote: Sorry for the delay in getting back. This seems to have fixed the problem - thanks very much. But am I losing anything in the process? Is this a lower quality stream? It still says 128kbit AAC / 320 kbit AAC so I guess not. Its not any lower quality its actually less cpu load on the player/server but is normally the same aac streams. Is it still broken for you when that setting is enabled? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
Triode;651925 Wrote: Its not any lower quality its actually less cpu load on the player/server but is normally the same aac streams. Is it still broken for you when that setting is enabled? Yes - it is still broken when this setting is enabled. But happy to go without this setting if the quality is the same ... -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
rbl;651928 Wrote: Yes - it is still broken when this setting is enabled. But happy to go without this setting if the quality is the same ... Where are you and what is the output of the two debugging commands I gave when you have this setting set? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
Am in London. Here is the last bit of the log file after trying to play BBC1 Xtra with the debugging turned on ... +---+ |Filename: server - Copy.log| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12356| +---+ -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
Code: [11-08-22 22:06:45.7301] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't create command line for aap playback for [http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_1xtra_p?s=1314040021e=1314054421h=807985829355a8c4ede86b93a9dd9e6b] I don't think its something wrong with the stream - I think this error indicates something wrong with the server installation. I think someone had this before and it potentially related to some old custom types files. Check you server installation for types.conf custom-types.conf files which define aap as it should not be defined. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
Aha - I did install Inguz DRC and that did require me to make some sort of custom type file. Can't quite remember the details, and I have given up using Inguz now (sadly). I think I'll just leave it be with the Native AAC option disabled as this seems to work nicely. At some point I'll have to rebuild my PC and start afresh then. Thanks very much for your help.. -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
I have had the same problems for the last few days. The streams sometimes work - sometimes not. However if you take the url of the live stream (say Radio 4 FM http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listenlive/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4 ) put into the web address in a browser it will also work when the iPlayer works on Squeezeserver fail when the iPlayer does not work on the Squeezeserver. So I feel that sort of indictaes that the problem is at the BBC end. -- richard_in_wingfield richard_in_wingfield's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17821 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
richard_in_wingfield;642956 Wrote: I have had the same problems for the last few days. The streams sometimes work - sometimes not. However if you take the url of the live stream (say Radio 4 FM http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listenlive/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4 ) put into the web address in a browser it will also work when the iPlayer works on Squeezeserver fail when the iPlayer does not work on the Squeezeserver. So I feel that sort of indictaes that the problem is at the BBC end. Any logging of the failed cases with player.streaming.direct and player.streaming.remote set to Debug would be useful. Works here for me. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
For some reason if I go Internet Radio-BBC iPlayer-Listen Live-Radio XX then it doesn't work for any station. No music ever starts, and it says under More info Bitrate 128000bbps CBR. All stations are the same. Surprisingly the Listen Again works fine. The URL is e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4;. Also I saved a few of the live BBC radio stations to my favourites some time ago. They still work absolutely fine. In both cases I am using AAC. Running 7.5.5 on Windows 7 32 bit with 2 SB3s. -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Listen Live not working
rbl;642847 Wrote: For some reason if I go Internet Radio-BBC iPlayer-Listen Live-Radio XX then it doesn't work for any station. No music ever starts, and it says under More info Bitrate 128000bbps CBR. All stations are the same. Surprisingly the Listen Again works fine. The URL is e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4;. Also I saved a few of the live BBC radio stations to my favourites some time ago. They still work absolutely fine. In both cases I am using AAC. Running 7.5.5 on Windows 7 32 bit with 2 SB3s. Try disabling AAC native on the setting page. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88982 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
