Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Oddly, the iPlayer Favourite streams have started working after a recent update I've been using nightly builds of 7.4.0 that seem to be updated pretty much every day... I've now moved to 7.4.1 beta. By 'working' I mean that the SqueezeboxServer Favourites for those BBC daily shows now grab the most recent show for that day, rather than expire after 7 days *just what I wanted. I'm not sure if this is the result of a SS update or an new version of the iPlayer plugin... That said, I'm still having alarm problems, but I don't this is related, so I won't derail this thread with it. -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
bpa;458331 Wrote: The older players (SB2,SB3, Transporter, Boom) can play WMA and MP3 native streams. The new players SB Radio, Touch can also play AAC/AAC+ streams. The Flash based streams have an extra wrapper which currently requires BBCiPlayer to unwrap it and deliver the AAC or MP3 which can be played natively. My current understanding - I am outside the UK so please correct. UK LISTENERS. Live National radio - WMA, RealAudio with normal URLs. Regional Radio (Scotland, Foyle. Cymru etc) - RealAudio but will also be available in Flash/AAC There are also MP3 streams but need BBciPlayer to play. There is also Flash/AAC - again needs BBCiPlayer to play. Listen Again - Realaudio and Flash/AAC and I think Flash/MP3 Local radio live Realaudio but soon in Flash/AAC. Local radio Listen Again - only Flash/AAC NON UK LISTENERS. All speeds are 48kbps and so all AAC streams use AAC+. Live National streams - RealAudio, WMA and Flash/AAC which needs BBCiPlayer. Listen Again - RealAudio and Flash/AAC. Local radio live Realaudio but soon in Flash/AAC. Local radio Listen Again - only Flash/AAC Tp play RealAudio streams - all player must use the AlienBBC plugin. So being UK based I should be able to get all my BBC content using the iPlayer plugin right? Thoughsince I'm streaming to a SB3 then transcoding still need to be done from AAC as it always did from RealAudio. But then there's mp3 right? That should play natively, but how would I choose this over the AAC streams an is it the same quality? Still a bit confused. -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
You can use BBCiPlayer plugin both inside and outside the UK. UK users get the higher quality streams and MP3. Non UK users cannot get the MP3 streams. You can force MP3 streams if you disable the AAC filetype in WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Well, there appears to be something funky going on with either SqueezeCenter or the iPlayer plugin. There are five valid static daily feeds under Home BBC iPlayer BBC Local Radio BBC London Danny Baker Mon/Tue/etc, just like with the old AlienBBC set-up and these work as expected when manually selected. However, they don't work as Favourites each Favourite is blank once each new programme is made available. It seems that the Favourite gets broken when a new programme is assigned to each day's programme under Home BBC iPlayer BBC Local Radio BBC London Danny Baker Mon/Tue/etc. So, if I favourite the Monday programme today, it'll work until next Monday afternoon, when the new Monday programme supersedes it. Is this a SqueezeCenter issue, or a problem with the iPlayer plugin? -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
bpa;458619 Wrote: IIRC Episodes in a brand are not identified as say monday's programme - just program title and date of broadcast. So to provide such a Favorite would require additional special plugin code to try to identify what sort of favorite the user is expecting and then determine which episode within a brand matches those expectations. Hm, but this *is* how some programmes are identified under the iPlayer plugin, which is why I'm a little puzzled (disclaimer: I know nothing about how iPlayer works). So, this would make sense if the plugin listed, for example, Danny Baker 14/09/09, but it doesn't it just lists Monday, Tues, etc under Home BBC iPlayer BBC Local Radio BBC London Danny Baker (for the purposes of my example). When these direct links are used, they *always* link to the most recent show for that day 'Tuesday is yesterday, 'Wednesday' is last week. This is great and just what I need. The problem (for me) is that I want to use these shows as alarms and for that I need to save them Favourites. This is the problem while those direct links always seem to be updated with new shows, the updates aren't rolled through to the Favourites, which breaks the alarms. -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Below is the selected info the BBC provides for Danny Baker programs - there are program identifiers which give info on the URl to use to play a specific program. There are also program title which can be different or the same and have no defined format - they cannot be used reliably to decide which program to play. Code: entry pid=p0048wgw key60fbfcb10628b54ddc18c9eea46347960d613995/key pidp0048w9l/pid servicebbc_london/service titleDanny Baker, 10/09/2009/title synopsisThe radio genius with great guests, calls and music from the quot;Radio DJ of the Yearquot;./synopsis availability start=2009-09-10T16:02:00Z end=2009-09-17T16:02:00Z / broadcast pid=p0048wbd version_pid=p0048wb2 imi=imi:bbc.co.uk/cd174d0b5133303fe7850405b565fe65 start=2009-09-10T14:00:00Z end=2009-09-10T16:00:00Z duration=7200 / parents parent pid=p001d7kl type=BrandDanny Baker/parent /parents links link type=mediaselectorhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p0048wb2/link /links /entry entry pid=p004976g keyf04fb1274834957a589cb835ebb81fe6bda3086a/key pidp00496wt/pid servicebbc_london/service titleDanny Baker, 11/09/2009/title synopsisThe radio genius with great guests, calls and music from the quot;Radio DJ of the Yearquot;./synopsis availability start=2009-09-11T16:02:00Z end=2009-09-18T16:02:00Z / broadcast pid=p00496xk version_pid=p00496x8 imi=imi:bbc.co.uk/55eae0e274723b970afe8aa260b39d92 start=2009-09-11T14:00:00Z end=2009-09-11T16:00:00Z duration=7200 / parents parent pid=p001d7kl type=BrandDanny Baker/parent /parents links link type=mediaselectorhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p00496x8/link /links /entry entry pid=p004b15x key6604282b63bfa65123eb05f7b81c33e9fa229dcb/key pidp004b0wc/pid servicebbc_london/service titleDanny Baker, 14/09/2009/title synopsisThe radio genius with great guests, calls and music from the quot;Radio DJ of the Yearquot;./synopsis availability start=2009-09-14T16:02:00Z end=2009-09-21T16:02:00Z / broadcast pid=p004b0x2 version_pid=p004b0ws imi=imi:bbc.co.uk/644d79283a35271e50dc70d3faa48acf start=2009-09-14T14:00:00Z end=2009-09-14T16:00:00Z duration=7200 / parents parent pid=p001d7kl type=BrandDanny Baker/parent /parents links link type=mediaselectorhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p004b0ws/link /links /entry entry pid=p004bddt keyc53dab378953f865ea0310f9307f3217a1912036/key pidp004bd3t/pid servicebbc_london/service titleDanny Baker, 15/09/2009/title synopsisThe radio genius with great guests, calls and music from the quot;Radio DJ of the Yearquot;./synopsis availability start=2009-09-15T16:02:00Z end=2009-09-22T16:02:00Z / broadcast pid=p004bd4j version_pid=p004bd47 imi=imi:bbc.co.uk/daffdeac03df1349bb74d82699ebec37 start=2009-09-15T14:00:00Z end=2009-09-15T16:00:00Z duration=7200 / parents parent pid=p001d7kl type=BrandDanny Baker/parent /parents links link type=mediaselectorhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p004bd47/link /links /entry entry pid=p004bxx2 keyd4b4bc9cd9f4f870e05acbd42d135d3df716464a/key pidp004bw2p/pid servicebbc_london/service titleDanny Baker, 16/09/2009/title synopsisThe radio genius with great guests, calls and music from the quot;Radio DJ of the Yearquot;./synopsis availability start=2009-09-16T16:02:00Z end=2009-09-23T16:02:00Z / broadcast pid=p004bw39 version_pid=p004bw31 imi=imi:bbc.co.uk/04c4b9901c089e1eb07fdc4e02924b47 start=2009-09-16T14:00:00Z end=2009-09-16T16:00:00Z duration=7200 / parents parent pid=p001d7kl type=BrandDanny Baker/parent /parents links link type=mediaselectorhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p004bw31/link /links /entry entry pid=p004c6tz keyf2ff82ecbc4fde4ed7c6a5590c6d758e57e0d481/key pidp004c68v/pid servicebbc_london/service titleDanny Baker, 17/09/2009/title synopsisThe radio genius with great guests, calls and music from the quot;Radio DJ of the Yearquot;./synopsis availability start=2009-09-17T16:02:00Z end=2009-09-24T16:02:00Z / broadcast pid=p004c69n version_pid=p004c69b imi=imi:bbc.co.uk/9b02bd51dfaded2d9ece4deda5229579 start=2009-09-17T14:00:00Z end=2009-09-17T16:00:00Z duration=7200 / parents parent pid=p001d7kl type=BrandDanny Baker/parent /parents links link type=mediaselectorhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/mtis/stream/p004c69b/link /links /entry -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Alas, those five daily links for the Danny Baker show on iPlayer don't appear to be working, though I'm not sure why. Last week, I set the Monday show (Home BBC iPlayer BBC Local Radio BBC London Danny Baker Monday) as a Favourite and at the weekend, it was indeed playing last Monday's (7th) show. This morning, however, when that Favourite was due to play via an alarm (which should now be yesterday's show - the 14th), it was empty there was no rtmp link inside. Oddly, manually playing the link from Home BBC iPlayer BBC Local Radio BBC London Danny Baker Monday was fine. Is this a glitch in the iPlayer plugin, or an unfortunate side-effect of how the iPlayer service works? -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
The BBCiPlayer now has a Danny Baker for Monday - I think the BBC XML feed which is used by BBCiPlayer is not updated as quickly as the Web interface so the problem is with BBC. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
In that case, I'll keep an eye on it for a day or two and see what happens with the next couple of programmes... -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
I had a feeling that the Favorites setup might be the nub of the problem. I wonder whether caching may be part of the issue. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Hi Guys, sorry to butt in here so late in the thread but I'm getting very confused! Are we saying that we can now get everything that BBC Radio puts out (both listen again and live streams) through the iPlayer plugin, in native Squeezebox friendly formats (so no transcoding needed on the server)? I noticed this blog post a couple of weeks ago: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/08/improvements_to_bbc_local_radi.html That just adds to my confusion, will the format now be mp3, Flash (or is that just a wrapper around mp3 and we somehow extract the mp3 from it), AAC or WMA??? Then there's the previously mentioned page: http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_programmes/local_radio_real_media/ Or are we saying the RealAudio support will continue? I'm so confused! -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
The older players (SB2,SB3, Transporter, Boom) can play WMA and MP3 native streams. The new players SB Radio, Touch can also play AAC/AAC+ streams. The Flash based streams have an extra wrapper which currently requires BBCiPlayer to unwrap it and deliver the AAC or MP3 which can be played natively. My current understanding - I am outside the UK so please correct. UK LISTENERS. Live National radio - WMA, RealAudio with normal URLs. Regional Radio (Scotland, Foyle. Cymru etc) - RealAudio but will also be available in Flash/AAC There are also MP3 streams but need BBciPlayer to play. There is also Flash/AAC - again needs BBCiPlayer to play. Listen Again - Realaudio and Flash/AAC and I think Flash/MP3 Local radio live Realaudio but soon in Flash/AAC. Local radio Listen Again - only Flash/AAC NON UK LISTENERS. All speeds are 48kbps and so all AAC streams use AAC+. Live National streams - RealAudio, WMA and Flash/AAC which needs BBCiPlayer. Listen Again - RealAudio and Flash/AAC. Local radio live Realaudio but soon in Flash/AAC. Local radio Listen Again - only Flash/AAC Tp play RealAudio streams - all player must use the AlienBBC plugin. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
My understanding is that the BBC has now dumped RealPlayer for Listen Again, at least for local radio. Since AlienBBC doesn't seem to cope with iPlayer streams, I guess that means that AlienBBC is defunct for BBC streams too... The iPlayer plugin seems to offer much the same features as AlienBBC though, so that problem is at least solved. The other ones, however... -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Once BBC made the XML feed available, it was expected that AlienBBC plugin could be retired. I don't think the small differences in program availability justifies the effort maintaining screen scraping the web interface. So AlienBBC users should try to use BBCiPlayer as their main BBC plugin and comment on problems/shortcoming. I think AlienBBC can be replaced with a plugin which just does RealAudio transcoding so that few remaining RealAudio stations such as RAI and RTE can still be played. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
The specific item I was looking for was The Essay on Radio 3. It appeared in the AlienBBC listings, but not in the iPlayer listings. Though I couldn't get it to play with AlienBBC. There was evidently something weird about this, as iPlayer Downloader on my Mac (which is not the official BBC item, but a third-party program) showed The Essay as a listing but would not download it. I think it may have got included at the end of a concert, but didn't feel like getting the whole concert. My general impression is that AlienBBC often shows more programs for a given day than iPlayer. Also that they often begin the listings at different times of day, one might start at 5 a.m. and the other at 9 a.m., for instance. Since I mostly listen to talk programs,the better quality of the iPlayer streams isn't of any importance to me. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
The specific item I was looking for was The Essay on Radio 3. It appeared in the AlienBBC listings, but not in the iPlayer listings. Though I couldn't get it to play with AlienBBC. There was evidently something weird about this, as iPlayer Downloader on my Mac (which is not the official BBC item, but a third-party program) showed The Essay as a listing but would not download it. I think it may have got included at the end of a concert, but didn't feel like getting the whole concert. 2 Episodes (9th 10th sept.) of The Essay now appears in BBCiPlayer plugin and they play OK for me. However 3 episodes (7th , 9th 10th Sept)appear in AlienBBC which takes its info from the web pages. I think the diffference between AlienBBC and BBCiPlayer is as follows. AlienBBC uses web pages and the web pages are created ahead of broadcast for the scheduled programs. When programs are broadcast the link to the audio file are added. BBC days can also span midnight as they start at about 5am and so can result in iPlayer programs being available for 8 days. BBCiPlayer plugin feed is generated from the available audio files and rigourously enforces the 7 days rule. So AlienBBC can show program info but not have content and also sometimes can show one or two more episodes than BBCiPlayer. I think the BBCiPLayer XML feed is created by BBC on a regular basis (e.g. once an hour) rather than a realtime response to some sort of database lookup and so some programs will take some time after broadcast before they appear in the XML feed and so in BBCiPlayer. I think BBCiPlayer creates the each day schedule by sorting/filtering a list of programs. So the AlienBBC start time of 5am is what BBC supplied, the BBCiPlayer 9am start time maybe a plugin choice. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
If you can give me an example of different times on the BBCiPlayer one I will look at the plugin. Currently it converts the time in the xmlfeed to local time and so it is dependant on timezone info on the local machine. If you are not in the uk you may get different times. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
bpa;457515 Wrote: Another user has posted that the BBC has somehow turned off RealAudio Listen Again for Local radio. So under AlienBBC the entry will appear but the program will not play. The BBC have said that RealAudio programs will remain so it is likely to be an error which will be fixed int time. Hm, this contradicts the info from http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_programmes/local_radio_real_media/, which says: As of the week commencing 7th September 2009, on demand programmes from BBC Local Radio stations are no longer available in Real Media format. This format is to be replaced by Flash MP3 and Windows Media (WMA). Flash MP3 is now the default playback format for local radio in iPlayer. So, it looks like RA is gone for good for BBC Local Radio. -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Hm, this contradicts the info from http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.u...io_real_media/, which says It's not a contradiction, it's just the BBC have changed their mind on RealAudio all the more reason for user to stop using AlienBBC and use BBCiPlayer. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
I find, though, that the schedule lists from iPlayer and AlienBBC are not identical. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
danco;457892 Wrote: I find, though, that the schedule lists from iPlayer and AlienBBC are not identical. While both are sourced from data at the BBC ... the BBC sources do not come from the indentical root source ... so there can be differences. In theory, during Wednesday 16 the source that AlienBBC is using for BBC local radio should be working better ... but with WMA rather than RA as the content. -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
I find, though, that the schedule lists from iPlayer and AlienBBC are not identical. Can you give some specific examples. Is it a case of AlienBBC * showing more days * fewer or more programs on a specific days * different programs for the same time slot compared to BBCiPlayer -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Triode;457359 Wrote: What caused you to go back? The look and behaviour of the Controllers mainly. MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Triode;457339 Wrote: Please try the latest 7.4 - the bug which prevented favorites being set for iPlayer has been fixed. (This only existed in the default web skins, but I guess most users don't know that there are any other web skins so I shouldn't have said this...) Interesting... With the upgrade to v7.4.28505 of SS, I can now see five daily shows for Danny Baker under Home BBC iPlayer BBC Local Radio BBC London Danny Baker. I don't think they were there under 7.3, but it didn't occur to me to look under the iPlayer plugin settings for this functionality rather than AlienBBC... Hopefully, these will simply stream the most recent show for that day and remain static - just like the old RP links did. I won't find out until Monday afternoon, when that day's (14th Sep) show will (or should) replace the oldest show (7th Sep). Triode any idea if those five links are going to work before I see for myself on Monday..? -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
I don't think they were there under 7.3, but it didn't occur to me to look under the iPlayer plugin settings for this functionality rather than AlienBBC... Another user has posted that the BBC has somehow turned off RealAudio Listen Again for Local radio. So under AlienBBC the entry will appear but the program will not play. The BBC have said that RealAudio programs will remain so it is likely to be an error which will be fixed int time. In future, use BBCiPlayer as your main BBC player since it now provides all the same functionality as AlienBBC using proper BBC feeds and consequently it appears there will be no reason to continue support for AlienBBC getting program info from Web pages. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Just to update everyone on this I have been in touch with the BBC about this change, but I've yet to get a meaningful reply. At the moment, I'm still at the This is how you use iPlayer stage with its iPlayer tech support people, but I'll keep plugging away until I get through to someone that can understand the problem. If anyone else has any ideas in the meantime... AlienBBC does list Danny Baker (in my example) under Home Alien BBC BBC Local Radio BBC LondonDanny Baker - Mon, 07 Sep 2009 Danny Baker - other episodes, but these are unique daily show links that can't be used to play last Friday's show, regardless of which week it is. I don't quite follow Triode's posts about skin-changing can you elaborate..? -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Please try the latest 7.4 - the bug which prevented favorites being set for iPlayer has been fixed. (This only existed in the default web skins, but I guess most users don't know that there are any other web skins so I shouldn't have said this...) -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Since I installed 7.4, decided I really didn't like it and reverted back to 7.3.3 my alarms have stopped working. They seem to be playing, but they are silent. My alarms use my BBC Radio 4 iPlayer favourite. If I choose to play the Radio 4 playlist favourite directly however it plays just fine. Could this be the same problem described above? MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Don't know I am afraid - not looked at 7.3 for a long time... In general I think 7.4 will be more stable with iplayer. What caused you to go back? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Yup, no doubt I was just hoping that someone had tracked down a similar static weekly URL for the iPlayer content... -- Adlopa Adlopa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
The URL organisation is the BBC's responsibility. AlienBBC and BBCiPlayer display and play the programs according to the lists the BBC provides. For a few programmes and mostly for UK listeners - there are podcasts so that Composer of the Week can be played using. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio3/cotw/rss.xml -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
One line of enquiry which I never fully explored was the fact that program brands have a fixed code - Composer of the week is b006tnxf . This code can be used to get info iniCal format such as The COTW programmes currently on iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnxf/episodes/player.ics Upcoming COTW programmmes http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnxf/episodes/upcoming.ics I never looked further to see if there are equivalent XML/RSS feeds using the code. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Did a quick test The following gives an XML of Danny Bakers current epsiodes on iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p001d7kl/episodes/player.xml Similarly for COTW http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnxf/episodes/player.xml Bad news is that I think BBCiPlayer will need a new parser to handle these sort of XML. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
You should already be able to add a brand/series menu to your favorites by clicking the heart icon in web interface on the relavent menu. This is intended to store the relavent information to always build the latest menu for that brand/series. I think you can then add this to the alarm playlist, but I have not checked how it will work and also which entry you will get. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
The Favorite idea doesn't work - it generates a Favorite with an URL such as http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/bbc_london.xml?Danny%20Baker but the response does not play as a Favorite or even have only Danny Baker. It looks like the full BBC London schedule. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
It needs to store a parser too with a filter:X=Y param - did you get that? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Ok - the problem is that the default skin is using javascript to do this and it bypasses setting the parser... Try setting a favorite using the classic skin and it should work.. However this is going to produce an xmlbrowser list which is not the same as something which is direcly playable - may need some more work. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC, iPlayer Listen Again...
Same frustration with Composer of the Week on Radio 3. Would love to get back to a stable favorite for the 5 programs. But I suspect it's the BBC's doing, not Alien or BBCPlayer. -- Millwood 2 SB3, 1 Duet Debian Lenny server 2 AP (netgear, linksys) wireless network. Millwood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67455 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
