Re: Strategies for keeping connection open to MySQL web databasefrom VFP9 client
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] på vegne av Jaime Vasquez Paul McNett wrote: Now *that* sounds like a MS move for sure! The developer says close the connection and the server, behind the scenes, keeps it open for you. This technique it's called Connection Pooling and it's not only a MS thing, as you can see in the links at the end of the article: Also, at least for MS SQL, you can disable it by adding Pooling=false to your connection string. I suppose this would be true for most databases. Eyvind. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/ms-tnef --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Need for webservice to be called from our app in near future(VFP9)
Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] på vegne av Paul McNett But they become objects at the other end. Mainly structures. You don't care what happens at the other end, though, do you? You just need to write your client code to the API, right? I think the point here is that if you want to do this in fox, you have to do a lot of 'roll your own', versus with Visual Studio and .NET, a lot of the complexity and ugly details concerned with packing and unpacking objects is hidden from you, and 'it just works' (most of the time). That is my experience, anyway. Eyvind. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/ms-tnef --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Need for webservice to be called from our app in near future(VFP9)
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] på vegne av Ed Leafe True, but we all rely on the tools we use, and to code everything in assembler is not something you'd want. Huh? What planet did you just arrive from? XML is *TEXT*. You use a *TEXT* editor. What the hell does assembler have to do with anything? Come on now, Ed, that was a simple analogy that most should be able to follow. Most tools allow for abstractions and/or code generation for complex features. In that respect, code for web services generated from a WSDL is not _significantly_ different from code generated by a compiler from a higher level source language, such as VFP, Pyhon, C# etc., from a _conceptual_ point of view. It can all be considered , and I'm quoting, 'black magic'. And that, dear Ed, is 'what the hell' assembler has to do with anything and everything. Python is a platform as well, No, it is a programming language, not a platform. It is indeed a platform in the sense that it provides you with a set of abstractions from which you build your solutions. No, it is not a platform in the same way that windows or linux are, so what? That does not mean that you are not locked into the Python _programming platform_ if you have lots of source code there. and one day it too will be dead. Well, duh! So will we all. But at least until those events, going with a non-proprietary solution doesn't lock you into it when things change in the future. Yes, everything dies, and I, for one, believe that there is more future in the .NET platform than there is in Python, though there is no one true answer to that. When the OP wrote that he needs a web service in the _near future_, not checking out what is available and useful right now in Visual Studio would be a very bad move, IMHO. And likewise, limiting your checking out to Visual Studio is an even worse decision. Did I ever mention that he should limit what he is checking out? And, while we're at it, could please provide examples of something that would work equally well within a limited time frame from Fox (possibly utilizing COM, if required) for a complex web service? Eyvind [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Need for webservice to be called from our app in near future(VFP9)
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] på vegne av Ed Leafe The 'S' in 'SOAP' was supposed to stand for 'Simple', but Microsoft and others have made SOAP so complicated that the only way to use it effectively is to lock into their tools. Once you get used to all that black magic happening under the hood, it's just so easy to continue to rely on the tool, and before you know it, you're locked into a platform again. True, but we all rely on the tools we use, and to code everything in assembler is not something you'd want. Python is a platform as well, and one day it too will be dead. When the OP wrote that he needs a web service in the _near future_, not checking out what is available and useful right now in Visual Studio would be a very bad move, IMHO. Eyvind. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/ms-tnef --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: 32bit Compatibility Mode
It can be debugged just as any other .NET language (C#, VB etc), as the vfp program is being compiled into pure .NET IL code :) -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Allen Sendt: 9. januar 2008 12:47 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: RE: 32bit Compatibility Mode That would be good if it can debug as well. Thats my main problem at the moment with VFP in .net. We seem to have three possible avenues. this one, plus Christof's and whatever Sweatpotato's Craig is doing Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eyvind Axelsen Sent: 09 January 2008 12:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 32bit Compatibility Mode Unless, of course, eTecnologia are able to finish their .NET compiler for VFP - then we'll go 64 with ease =) http://www.etecnologia.net/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/2008 13:38 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: 32bit Compatibility Mode
Unless, of course, eTecnologia are able to finish their .NET compiler for VFP - then we'll go 64 with ease =) http://www.etecnologia.net/ -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Alan Bourke Sendt: 9. januar 2008 10:21 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: Re: 32bit Compatibility Mode 32 bit applications run on 64 bit Windows in the same way as 16 bit applications run in 32 bit Windows, in an emulated machine. And VFP will never be 64 bit, this is what will ultimately finish it off. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9 SOAP/WSDL Blues revisited
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I'd bet you could save a lot of time by writing a wrapper for the web service call in VB.NET (or C#), and exposing this to your foxpro project through COM interop. Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Aida I. Rivera-Benítez, MSMIS Sendt: 9. november 2007 04:10 Til: 'ProFox Email List' Emne: RE: VFP9 SOAP/WSDL Blues revisited Well ...I have my webservices and they are almost working but... still have the certificate problem when sending the actual file It says the SSL Certificate common name (home name field) is Incorrect. They send me the following code to bypass the certificate apparently In Visual Basic. Create a class like the following: Public Class MyPolicy Implements ICertificatePolicy Public Function CheckValidationResult(ByVal srvPoint As ServicePoint, _ ByVal cert As X509Certificate, ByVal request As WebRequest, _ ByVal certificateProblem As Integer) _ As Boolean Implements ICertificatePolicy.CheckValidationResult Return True End Function End Class When you proceed to call the web service, before creating the web reference instance, Create an instance of the web reference, create an intance of the class: System.Net.ServicePointManager.CertificatePolicy = New MyPolicy And then proceed to use the web service. I tried to translate this to VFP but is giving errors everywhere. Can somebody help me with this code? Regards, AiR [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Monthly letters
The monthly letters at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vfoxpro/default.aspx seem to have stopped (the most recent one is from July), has there been a statement from MS regarding this? Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Help Translate Dabo!
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ed Leafe Sendt: 31. juli 2007 02:41 Til: ProFox Mailing List Emne: [NF] Help Translate Dabo! Want to contribute to Dabo, but don't feel you understand the inner workings of the code that well? Do you speak a language other than English well enough to translate some of the localizable strings from English to your language? Well, we need you to help localize Dabo for as many languages as possible. About how many words/phrases are there that need to be translated? I could do a Norwegian translation, given that you are interested in that and that the amount of work is not totally overwhelming. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Mailing from Servoy USA for Fox folks
Details, please? Thanks, Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Bill Anderson Sendt: 11. juli 2007 22:25 Til: ProFox Email List Emne: Re: Mailing from Servoy USA for Fox folks MB Software Solutions wrote: So this Bob Kirsch is scheduled for LA Fox? You'll have to give us the day-after report! The one sentence explanation (from another member) -- This is better than I expected it to be. Based on what I saw, I was favorably impressed. Bill [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml
An xsl is not the schema (while an xsd file is). The xsl is a style sheet, that as you mention allows for a browser to pretty-print the xml. To use an xsl style sheet, include a line like the following at the top (after the ?xml version=...? tag) of the xml file: ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=your_xsl_file_here.xsl? For example: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=simple.xsl? breakfast_menu food nameBelgian Waffles/name price$5.95/price description two of our famous Belgian Waffles /description calories650/calories /food /breakfast_menu And the corresponding xsl: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? html xsl:version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; body style=font-family:Arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt; background-color:#EE xsl:for-each select=breakfast_menu/food div style=background-color:teal;color:white;padding:4px span style=font-weight:bold;color:white xsl:value-of select=name//span - xsl:value-of select=price/ /div div style=margin-left:20px;margin-bottom:1em;font-size:10pt xsl:value-of select=description/ span style=font-style:italic (xsl:value-of select=calories/ calories per serving) /span /div /xsl:for-each /body /html From http://w3schools.com/xml/xml_xsl.asp. Now, show me the money! g Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Sytze de Boer Sendt: 13. juni 2007 00:11 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: VFP9 - cursortoxml I previously posted a question re converting a small stand-a-lone dbf to xml file, using a schema (xsl file) supplied by my client. Creating an xml file is simple What I can't get my head around is to use the schema thingee to ALSO produce the xml file in a format so that when you double click on it, it looks all neatly formatted. almost like a (frx) report from a color printer. Is there someone here who is prepared to assist me conclude this process. I am willing to PAY for the help you provide. Regards Sytze [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml
I have not worked with the XMLAdapter, so I am afraid I can't help you much with that, but here's a sample xml schema that validates against your example - hope it helps! ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=yes? !--W3C Schema generated by XMLSpy v2006 sp2 U (http://www.altova.com)-- xs:schema xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; elementFormDefault=qualified xs:element name=articulo type=xs:long/ xs:element name=cambio xs:complexType xs:sequence xs:element ref=articulo/ xs:element ref=origen/ xs:element ref=destino/ xs:element ref=cantidad/ /xs:sequence /xs:complexType /xs:element xs:element name=cantidad type=xs:int/ xs:element name=destino type=xs:long/ xs:element name=origen type=xs:long/ xs:element name=xml xs:complexType xs:sequence xs:element ref=cambio maxOccurs=unbounded/ /xs:sequence /xs:complexType /xs:element /xs:schema Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Rafael Copquin Sendt: 13. juni 2007 10:45 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml Hi Eyvind You seem to know how to create a schema in VFP 9 I want to use the xmladapter class with the following xmlfile, that I have to convert into a vfp cursor xml cambio articulo77980147641323/articulo origen7798777649871/origen destino7798121754621/destino cantidad1/cantidad /cambio cambio articulo4258574764577/articulo origen7358574764745/origen destino7798133754965/destino cantidad7/cantidad /cambio /xml I need the structure of the generated cursor to be: articulo N(13) origen N(13) destino N(13) cantidad N(4) The above represents a quantity (cantidad) of a stock item (articulo) that is moved from one position on the shelf (origen) to another position on another shelf (destino).The values in those fields are the bar codes read from a data collector device Would you kindly show me how the schema would look like? And the commands necessary to generate this cursor using the xmladapter class with the schema? I could use the xmltocursor function, but noticed that if the xml file contains only one record and the value in the CANTIDAD field is either a 1 or a 0, the field generated is of type logic, placing a .T. or a .F. instead of the 1 or the 0 Thank you very much in advance Rafael Copquin - Original Message - From: Eyvind Axelsen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml An xsl is not the schema (while an xsd file is). The xsl is a style sheet, that as you mention allows for a browser to pretty-print the xml. To use an xsl style sheet, include a line like the following at the top (after the ?xml version=...? tag) of the xml file: ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=your_xsl_file_here.xsl? For example: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=simple.xsl? breakfast_menu food nameBelgian Waffles/name price$5.95/price description two of our famous Belgian Waffles /description calories650/calories /food /breakfast_menu And the corresponding xsl: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? html xsl:version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; body style=font-family:Arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt; background-color:#EE xsl:for-each select=breakfast_menu/food div style=background-color:teal;color:white;padding:4px span style=font-weight:bold;color:white xsl:value-of select=name//span - xsl:value-of select=price/ /div div style=margin-left:20px;margin-bottom:1em;font-size:10pt xsl:value-of select=description/ span style=font-style:italic (xsl:value-of select=calories/ calories per serving) /span /div /xsl:for-each /body /html From http://w3schools.com/xml/xml_xsl.asp. Now, show me the money! g Eyvind. --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise
RE: VFP9 - cursortoxml
XML schemas are not that difficult to understand once you get over the initial learning barrier. A starting point could be http://www.w3schools.com/schema/default.asp. However, if you are going to work more than a little bit with XML, I would highly recommend getting hold of a tool for the purpose. As you can see from the comment in the example below, I use xml spy from altova, and I find it very helpful in dealing with xml files, schemas etc. Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Rafael Copquin Sendt: 13. juni 2007 13:04 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml Gee, that's very good !! I have no clue on how you did that, but I will use it and see if this is what I need. BTW, where can I read what is necessary to understand this schema thing and how to accomplish what you did, on my own? I read the VFP9 help on this subject, but it shows no examples and deciphering the meaning, at least to a newbie on XML as me, is a humongous task!! Rafael - Original Message - From: Eyvind Axelsen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml I have not worked with the XMLAdapter, so I am afraid I can't help you much with that, but here's a sample xml schema that validates against your example - hope it helps! ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=yes? !--W3C Schema generated by XMLSpy v2006 sp2 U (http://www.altova.com)-- xs:schema xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; elementFormDefault=qualified xs:element name=articulo type=xs:long/ xs:element name=cambio xs:complexType xs:sequence xs:element ref=articulo/ xs:element ref=origen/ xs:element ref=destino/ xs:element ref=cantidad/ /xs:sequence /xs:complexType /xs:element xs:element name=cantidad type=xs:int/ xs:element name=destino type=xs:long/ xs:element name=origen type=xs:long/ xs:element name=xml xs:complexType xs:sequence xs:element ref=cambio maxOccurs=unbounded/ /xs:sequence /xs:complexType /xs:element /xs:schema Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Rafael Copquin Sendt: 13. juni 2007 10:45 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml Hi Eyvind You seem to know how to create a schema in VFP 9 I want to use the xmladapter class with the following xmlfile, that I have to convert into a vfp cursor xml cambio articulo77980147641323/articulo origen7798777649871/origen destino7798121754621/destino cantidad1/cantidad /cambio cambio articulo4258574764577/articulo origen7358574764745/origen destino7798133754965/destino cantidad7/cantidad /cambio /xml I need the structure of the generated cursor to be: articulo N(13) origen N(13) destino N(13) cantidad N(4) The above represents a quantity (cantidad) of a stock item (articulo) that is moved from one position on the shelf (origen) to another position on another shelf (destino).The values in those fields are the bar codes read from a data collector device Would you kindly show me how the schema would look like? And the commands necessary to generate this cursor using the xmladapter class with the schema? I could use the xmltocursor function, but noticed that if the xml file contains only one record and the value in the CANTIDAD field is either a 1 or a 0, the field generated is of type logic, placing a .T. or a .F. instead of the 1 or the 0 Thank you very much in advance Rafael Copquin - Original Message - From: Eyvind Axelsen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 4:20 AM Subject: Re: VFP9 - cursortoxml An xsl is not the schema (while an xsd file is). The xsl is a style sheet, that as you mention allows for a browser to pretty-print the xml. To use an xsl style sheet, include a line like the following at the top (after the ?xml version=...? tag) of the xml file: ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=your_xsl_file_here.xsl? For example: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=simple.xsl? breakfast_menu food nameBelgian Waffles/name price$5.95/price description two of our famous Belgian Waffles /description calories650/calories /food /breakfast_menu And the corresponding xsl: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? html xsl:version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; body style=font-family:Arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt; background-color:#EE xsl:for-each select=breakfast_menu/food div style=background-color:teal;color:white;padding:4px span style=font-weight:bold;color:white xsl:value-of select=name
RE: VFP to XML
Virgil, PMFJI, but it seems to me that you should indeed change the code you use to produce your XML. I looked at an example from the site you mentioned, and the xml looks like this: markers marker lat=43.65654 lng=-79.90138 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;First Info Window label=Marker One / marker lat=43.91892 lng=-78.89231 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Second Info Window label=Marker Two / marker lat=43.82589 lng=-79.10040 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Third Info Window label=Marker Three / /markers Your code, however, would as far as I can tell produce something like this: markers marker lat=43.65654 lng=-79.90138 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;First Info Window label=Marker One /marker marker lat=43.91892 lng=-78.89231 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Second Info Window label=Marker Two /marker marker lat=43.82589 lng=-79.10040 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Third Info Window label=Marker Three /marker /markers The difference is, as you no doubt can tell, that in the first example the lat, lng etc are attributes of the marker tag, while in your code they would be just text enclosed by the tag. Also, the problem with quotes inside the attribute values is a valid concern. Regards, Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Virgil Bierschwale Sendt: 30. mai 2007 13:37 Til: 'ProFox Email List' Emne: RE: VFP to XML Yep, I've tried it and I use it. Yep, the place that I found all info at is located at http://www.econym.demon.co.uk/googlemaps/index.htm I'm not going to go tit for tat with you, but I've been in this business quite a long time and one thing that I've learned is that there are a lot of different ways to accomplish the same thing. In other words, there is no right nor wrong way to develop software and to insinuate that only your way is the way is beyond belief grin As for my financial situation, I currently work at 3 jobs, some paid and some unpaid. I too used to be an arrogant sob making 67.50 per hour as an contractor working 60 plus hour weeks until the work went overseas and I couldn't find anymore. It has humbled me a bit. Lets hope that it doesn't happen to you. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: VFP to XML As for this not working, have you tried it ? I'm sure that you will find that it creates the xml file that google map needs exactly and with minor modification, it will create other xml files. Have **you** tried it? The code you posted creates marker/marker elements with text inside it, instead of the xml attributes that Google Maps(and generally XML-enabled applications) utilize. No, I haven't loaded this into Google Maps itself(I don't have your data source to test if I chose to waste my time doing so), but if it works, it's a bug/undocumented 'feature' in Google Maps and you can't expect it to keep working. I just believe in learning from others mistakes instead of trying to reinvent the wheel every time. Writing a text file like this is not the generally-accepted best way to write XML files, generally. The more accepted way is a DOM-based XML parser, such as MSXML. Occasionally writing to the text file directly such as you do is useful if you have very large files, but IMO, those aren't a good candidate for xml in the first place. Not all XML files are as primitive as the one you have-- many are multiple levels deep. I'm sorry to hear about your financial woes. Possibly it would be smarter for your financial situation to find a job(any job) to pay some bills instead of doing websites for non-profits, etc.? -- Derek [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP to XML
Virgil, The problem lies in the following line: response.write(marker) The marker tag should not be closed (with a ) before you write the attributes. Try something like this instead: while (not oRS.EOF) response.write(marker ) write attributes here... response.write( /) oRS.MoveNext() wend Still not nearly fool proof, but better. The attribute values (i.e. the data coming from oRS(svclatitude)) should also be enclosed in quotation marks (). The result on your webpage is not XML the way most people do it, and while it might work, I wouldn't count on it continuing to do so. The XML DOM object that was mentioned earlier might be a bit harder to understand at first, but it will make your (XML related) life a lot easier when you do. Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Virgil Bierschwale Sendt: 30. mai 2007 16:37 Til: 'ProFox Email List' Emne: RE: VFP to XML Agreed.. Problem was the example I sent was just that as I was in the process of making it work. The actual code is listed here. You can see it in action by clicking here -- http://www.virgilslist.com/get1059.asp qry = SELECT svclatitude, svclongitude, svcrate + ' ' + svcfirstname + ' ' + svclastname AS htmldesc, svcrate + ' ' + svclastname AS labeldesc, 'enlisted' as titledesc from Roster WHERE svcBranch = 'NAVY' Set oRS = oConn.Execute(qry) oRS.MoveFirst() response.write(?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-1'?) response.write(markers) while (not oRS.EOF) response.write(marker) response.write(lat= oRS(svclatitude) ) response.write(lng= oRS(svclongitude) ) response.write(html= oRS(htmldesc) ) response.write(label= oRS(labeldesc) ) response.write(title= oRS(titledesc) ) response.write(/marker) oRS.MoveNext() wend oRS.close() oConn.close() response.write(/markers) Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eyvind Axelsen Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:34 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: VFP to XML Virgil, PMFJI, but it seems to me that you should indeed change the code you use to produce your XML. I looked at an example from the site you mentioned, and the xml looks like this: markers marker lat=43.65654 lng=-79.90138 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;First Info Window label=Marker One / marker lat=43.91892 lng=-78.89231 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Second Info Window label=Marker Two / marker lat=43.82589 lng=-79.10040 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Third Info Window label=Marker Three / /markers Your code, however, would as far as I can tell produce something like this: markers marker lat=43.65654 lng=-79.90138 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;First Info Window label=Marker One /marker marker lat=43.91892 lng=-78.89231 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Second Info Window label=Marker Two /marker marker lat=43.82589 lng=-79.10040 html=Some stuff to display in thelt;brgt;Third Info Window label=Marker Three /marker /markers The difference is, as you no doubt can tell, that in the first example the lat, lng etc are attributes of the marker tag, while in your code they would be just text enclosed by the tag. Also, the problem with quotes inside the attribute values is a valid concern. Regards, Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Virgil Bierschwale Sendt: 30. mai 2007 13:37 Til: 'ProFox Email List' Emne: RE: VFP to XML Yep, I've tried it and I use it. Yep, the place that I found all info at is located at http://www.econym.demon.co.uk/googlemaps/index.htm I'm not going to go tit for tat with you, but I've been in this business quite a long time and one thing that I've learned is that there are a lot of different ways to accomplish the same thing. In other words, there is no right nor wrong way to develop software and to insinuate that only your way is the way is beyond belief grin As for my financial situation, I currently work at 3 jobs, some paid and some unpaid. I too used to be an arrogant sob making 67.50 per hour as an contractor working 60 plus hour weeks until the work went overseas and I couldn't find anymore. It has humbled me a bit. Lets hope that it doesn't happen to you. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Kalweit Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:38 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: VFP to XML
Re: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto
If you can use the .Net 2.0 framework (either through COM interop or the etecnologia extender), the System.Net.Mail namespace has got all you need. A simple example: SmtpClient smtpClient = new SmtpClient(smtp.someserver.com); smtpClient.Credentials = new NetworkCredential(username, password); MailMessage mail = new MailMessage(new MailAddress([EMAIL PROTECTED]), new MailAddress([EMAIL PROTECTED])); mail.Body = myBodyString; mail.IsBodyHtml = true; // or false mail.Subject = Subject goes here; smtpClient.Send(mail); Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sendt: 5. april 2007 18:53 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: Sending mail from VFP w/o mailto Hi folks, I have inherited (ahem...) an app that includes a rudimentary email function in one of its modules. It uses the 'mailto' and shellexecute functions in Windows, primarily because the app used to be x-plat and thus couldn't rely on Windows-only solutions. The Windows part of the call looks like this: m.mailcommand = mailto:; + m.realname + + m.emailaddress + + ?subject= + m.subject + body= + m.message declare integer ShellExecute in shell32.dll... declare integer FindWindow in WIN32API... =ShellExecute(FindWindow()) It works fine for short messages (@1000 bytes), but now they want to send big ol' messages, like 10K to 20K. This current mechanism is truncating those messages (I think at 1024.) My options are... Door #1: Find a way to use the current mechanism but allow it to use much longer messages - that's your first question. Door #2: Find a different, Windows OS-only solution. Door #3: Incorporate a third party utility such as BLAT (which I've seen talked about here oodles) or ipstuff. It'd be great if I could just alter the syntax of the current mechanism to be able to include longer messages, but I don't know enough about how that works to determine if it's a native limit or something artificial imposed by this app. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Another life after VFP thread?
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Michael Hawksworth VFP 9 Sedna for the next few years (can't just dump over a million lines of code) Personally, I'm very excited to see what will come out of the effort from eTechnologica.net and their VFP -- .NET compiler. Will it be too little too late, or salvation? Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [Fwd: Latest Preview of Visual FoxPro Ships]
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Stephen the Cook I read through the functions they are exposing and was under whelmed. If you could put a .dll into a fox project and consume functions within, then you have a winner. What you got was peanut shells off the floor at the tacky steak restaurant. I agree. Have you seen the offering from Etecnologica? They promise to deliver just that: use all the functionality from .NET without the hassle of COM. Haven't tried it, though. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [Fwd: Latest Preview of Visual FoxPro Ships]
Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Stephen the Cook Any idea which version of the . ??? Sedna fits in with? Will it be ver 2, or the to be released probably next year 3? Version 3 of the .NET FX has been released, actually. Check it out here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/default.aspx and download it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=10CC340B-F857-4A14-83F5-25634C3BF043displaylang=en The 3.0 version is actually just a set of classes that runs on the 2.0 version, so in order to run apps for version 3, you need to have version 2 installed. Kind of odd, me thinks... Anyway, since the 3.0 framework is just 2.0 with some new classes, Sedna should work equally well with both the 3.0 and the 2.0 frameworks. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Storing code in a table
Are you running VFP9? EXECSCRIPT() should do the trick without a tempfile. I don't think that is entirely correct. I believe ExecScript does indeed create a tempfile (so your users will need write permissions to the temp directory), but you won't have to handle the creation and compilation of the temp file yourself. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: .NET Extender for VFP VFP Compiler for .Net
Damn! That sure looks interesting, let's hope they can live up to their claims =) Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Michael Hawksworth Sendt: 3. januar 2007 09:38 Til: Profox Emne: .NET Extender for VFP VFP Compiler for .Net Has anyone had a look at the above from www.etecnologia.net? This looks like the work MS should have been doing. -- Michael Hawksworth Visual Fox Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.foxpro.co.uk [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] ANN: Dabo 0.7 released!
If I could conceive of a better language than Python, I would indeed create it. But IMO, Python is as good as it gets! Say what? Python (like every other language that I have seen) have loads of flaws and annoyances. I find it hard to believe that you really think that Python is as good as it can get. Congrats on the Dabo release, btw! Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] ANN: Dabo 0.7 released!
I didn't say it was perfect, did I? Well, maybe its just my English, but I believe you did: Python is as good as it gets! paired with If I could conceive of a better language than Python, I would indeed create it tells me you think it is perfect. Obviously, if Python did indeed have flaws, the Python minus all the flaws-language would have been better, now wouldn't it? To go ahead and actually write it, well that's another deal altogether, but to conceive it - sure I can! Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
0xIDE / xBase++ / IronPython
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~garys/ This guy has created a tool that translates xBase++ code to executable IronPython code. Quite cool, and one would think it should be doable for VFP as well. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
SV: Walk the treeview
This sounds like a typical application for a recursive procedure that walks the child nodes of a given node. If you have a limited amount of items and are using VFP9, you can use increase the STACKSIZE parameter in your config.fpw file. It's a shame that the fox is not better suited for recursivity. Good luck! Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Paul Newton Sendt: 7. oktober 2006 23:22 Til: ProFox Emne: Walk the treeview Hi all I now have a treeview with all nodes expanded and I want to traverse the tree from top to bottom, node-by-node in the order in which they are displayed. I want to be able to do this without reference to the nodes' keys ir index values - IOW a completely generic solution which will work with any treeview regardless of the data it contains. The only caveats are that any given node in the treeview may or may not have children and may or may not have siblings. Because I want a generic solution it should only use node properties like children, child, parent, next, previous, firstsibling, lastsibling and root. The idea is to call a form method (WalkTree) with the first/top/root node as parameter. WalkTree will need to be recursive but I am having trouble with getting a correctly working implementation. Any help would therefore be highly appreciated. Tx [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Walk the treeview - Soluton
To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion =) Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Dave Crozier Sendt: 9. oktober 2006 12:35 Til: 'ProFox Email List' Emne: RE: Walk the treeview - Soluton And of course if you look it up in the dictionary: Recursion /ree-ker'-zhon/: See Recursion. Oldies but goldies! Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Newton Sent: 09 October 2006 11:11 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Walk the treeview - Soluton Eyvind Axelsen wrote: This sounds like a typical application for a recursive procedure that walks the child nodes of a given node. If you have a limited amount of items and are using VFP9, you can use increase the STACKSIZE parameter in your config.fpw file. It's a shame that the fox is not better suited for recursivity. Good luck! Eyvind. OK - got it: PARAMETERS nodeParent *!* Walks the specified source parent treeview node, *!* and all of its children nodes *!* *!* nodeParent: parent node to walk LOCAL nodeChild As Node nodeParent.Selected = .T. WAIT WINDOW TIMEOUT 1 *!* Get the current parent node's first child nodeChild = nodeParent.Child *!* Now walk through the current parent node's children DO WHILE Not ISNULL(nodeChild) *!* If the current child node has its own children... If nodeChild.Children 0 *!* Recursively DO this proc walking the child node *!* (which becomes the new parent node) THISFORM.WalkTree(nodeChild) Else *!* Process the child node nodeChild.Selected = .T. WAIT WINDOW TIMEOUT 1 ENDIF *!* Get the current child node's next sibling nodeChild = nodeChild.Next ENDDO RETURN [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP at MSDN
Seems so. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ailsom F. Heringer (Osklen) Sendt: 6. september 2006 17:26 Til: ProFox Email List Emne: VFP at MSDN I can´t reach VFP at Msdn. Is it down ? http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro -- Aílsom F. Heringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ailsom.osklen Analista de Sistemas -- Osklen Departamento de Informática Rio de Janeiro - RJ BRASIL http://www.osklen.com.br 55 21 22198971 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Advice needed on web interface.
ASP.NET can talk to (read/update) VFP tables through the VFP OLE DB provider. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Alan Bourke Sendt: 29. august 2006 13:59 Til: profox@leafe.com Emne: Advice needed on web interface. We have a client with an existing networked membership application written in VFP8. They want to add a web interface to this. It would basically replicate a couple of forms and put them online, writing back to the VFP database. If the web hosting was done offsite, I would envisage using an ASP.NET setup writing to a local SQL database for the web part. What I need to do is have the web side update the VFP database at the customer's office in realtime or near as dammit. What would be the best way to do that? -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: multithreading in VFP
Calvin Hsia from the FoxPro developer team has some advice: http://blogs.msdn.com/calvin_hsia/archive/2006/05/16/599108.aspx This, however, is quite involved. Perhaps you are better off using some other language if you plan on doing a lot of multithreading. Eyvind. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Anh, Ta Ngoc (PIACOM) Sendt: 25. juli 2006 06:05 Til: 'ProFox Email List' Emne: multithreading in VFP Hi everybody. I want to buit multithreading application. But in VFP, I don't know how to use multithreading. Anyone can help me. Thanks for your help. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ed Leafe As Bruce Eckel stated, strong testing, not strong typing. The two are not mutually exclusive, and why have only one when you can have both? The compiler does not lead to a false feeling of security, because we as professional developers understand what sort of errors the compiler can catch, and we can develop appropriate (unit) tests for the rest. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Dominic Burford And there is likely to be more time available for testing due to the quicker development times that weakly types languages are capable of. I would say that this is highly dependant on the type of application that you are making. I have worked with both weakly and strongly typed languages, and I must say that for large projects involving multiple developers and changing requirements, strong, static typing speeds things up, simply because refactoring is so much easier to do. Furthermore, IMO, static (as opposed to just strong) typing is very valuable for intellisense, which is able to provide a lot more info in than in a language with weak/dynamic typing, and this alone can speed up development considerably. Eyvind ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Dominic Burford Sendt: 28. juni 2006 14:04 Til: ProFox Email List Emne: RE: Strong parameter checking I'm curious to find out how. I would have thought a strongly typed language would have been *more* difficult to refactor, for the same rasons that it can take longer to develop using them i.e. they can prevent certain object interactions due to their enforcement of data types, and thus leads to additional code being written which conforms to these constraints. True, but on the other hand, if you change, say, a method signature, a compiler can spot every place in which a change is needed. Furthermore, if you change the name of a function or class member or the order in which parameters are sent to a function, a tool such as VS can do the refactoring for you automatically. Still, I guess the answer to the question of development speed and strong/static vs weak typing is: it depends =) Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Strong parameter checking
Indeed! Especially when you after having used the function/method in quite a few places need to refactor the damn thing, and change, say, parameter types... Is that a problem for you? So sorry. I just go and do a refactor for it, and I am presented with all the occurrences. VS2005 is really great in adding that. :) That's exactly what I meant - at times I _really_ hate VS 2005 (especially the [EMAIL PROTECTED] designer), but the refactoring bit is brilliant (and as good as impossible to implement in a dynamic language without static type checking). Eyvind. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] IronPython
Has anyone used it? Ed or Paul, perhaps? If so, do you have a gut feeling or more regarding its stability? We are considering using it as an embedded scripting language in our .NET 2.0 app. Thanks, Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] IronPython
-Opprinnelig melding- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Ed Leafe It wasn't designed to be a complete re-write of Python, since Python already runs great on Windows, but rather a wrapping of the .Net classes. Actually, I think you are wrong on that (maybe they changed their minds along the way). From http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython: IronPython is the code name of the new implementation of the Python programming language running on .NET. It supports an interactive console with fully dynamic compilation. It is well integrated with the rest of the .NET Framework and makes all .NET libraries easily available to Python programmers, while maintaining full compatibility with the Python language. It seems to me that this means that most of Python will be in there when version 1.0 is (supposedly) released this summer. Eyvind. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
