subject:"\[ADMIN\] Testing"

Ed,
Thanks I'll investigate further!

Dave Crozier
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-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Ed Leafe
Sent: 10 January 2019 14:24
To: ProFox Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
> own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it 
> seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails 
> as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my 
> domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is something 
in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to make your own 
posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since it’s in your Sent 
folder) and ignore it.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-10 Thread Ed Leafe

On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
> own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it 
> seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails 
> as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my 
> domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is something 
in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to make your own 
posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since it’s in your Sent 
folder) and ignore it.

-- Ed Leafe

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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

+1

Dave Crozier
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price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time
-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of 
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Sent: 09 January 2019 21:07
To: ProFox Email List 
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

On 2019-01-09 16:02, Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its 
>> Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service 
>> when these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!
> 
> Most months were below the level that the service would be free - 
> around 210 messages / month. And it would be nice to not have to hunt 
> down why various people aren’t getting their messages, which usually 
> ends up being “my ISP is blocking you”.
> 
>> Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, 
>> if so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, 
>> maybe the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together…
> 
> I also host the ProLinux and ProPython lists, which were set up to not 
> clog up ProFox with discussions of moving to Linux or programming in 
> Python. While they were busy at first, in 2018 they had 17 and 15 
> messages for the *entire year*, of which 13 were the monthly/yearly 
> statistics postings. So those don’t really make much of an impact.

Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll all 
chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as a "thank 
you" for such a great resource.

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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Thanks John,
Can see your reply but not my original post and I guess not this reply either.

Dave Crozier
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-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 10 January 2019 10:33
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Hi Dave,

Message received.  I am using Office 365 as a personal account and am seeing my 
posts.

John

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 10 January 2019 10:24
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Ed,
I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it seems 
to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails as davec 
at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my domain name 
dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

Thanks

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

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T 01706 222 792
E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk
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run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol 
Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an 
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 It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate 
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Terms & Conditions:
 Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in 
the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. 
("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the 
price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -Original 
Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my 
> domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
> blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving 
> end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent 
> is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest 
> number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
> 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month 
> (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-10 Thread John Weller

Hi Dave,

Message received.  I am using Office 365 as a personal account and am seeing my 
posts.

John

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 10 January 2019 10:24
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Ed,
I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it seems 
to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails as davec 
at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my domain name 
dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

Thanks

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿



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T 01706 222 792
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Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an 
e-mail and/or any attachment is received.
  
 It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate 
virus protection.

-

Terms & Conditions:
 Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in 
the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. 
("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the 
price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -Original 
Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my 
> domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
> blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving 
> end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent 
> is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest 
> number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
> 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month 
> (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Ed,
I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it seems 
to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails as davec 
at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my domain name 
dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

Thanks

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿



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T 01706 222 792
E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk
W https://www.flexipol.co.uk/
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risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent via 
e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to 
run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol 
Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an 
e-mail and/or any attachment is received.
  
 It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate 
virus protection.

-

Terms & Conditions:
 Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in 
the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. 
("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the 
price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time
-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my 
> domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
> blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving 
> end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent 
> is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest 
> number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 
> 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month 
> (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Kurt @ Gmail


+1.

On 1/9/2019 2:36 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote:

+1.

I'd chip in too!

Paul H. Tarver
Email: p...@tpcqpc.com



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mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 3:07 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll
all chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as
a "thank you" for such a great resource.




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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Paul H. Tarver

+1. 

I'd chip in too!

Paul H. Tarver
Email: p...@tpcqpc.com 



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mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 3:07 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll 
all chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as 
a "thank you" for such a great resource.



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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread John Weller

+1

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll all 
chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as a "thank 
you" for such a great resource.




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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.

I assume you have checked out Google Groups

And thank you for the many years of yeomanship

*Shai / שי **Charles Hart Enzer, MD(Ohio, USA), FAACAP*
*Aliyah : Cincinnati to Jerusalem
's German Colony
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Medical CenterWebSite: **EnzerMD.com *
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*If a problem has no solution, *
*   it may not be a problem, *
*but a fact -- not to be solved, *
*  but to be coped with over time*

-- Shimon Peres, Ninth President of Israel

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 8:52 PM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my domain
> is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket blocks on
> any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end
> of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is
> under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of
> emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails,
> and that would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I
> will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions

On 2019-01-09 16:02, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its
Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when
these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!

Most months were below the level that the service would be free -
around 210 messages / month. And it would be nice to not have to hunt
down why various people aren’t getting their messages, which usually
ends up being “my ISP is blocking you”.

Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which,
if so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or,
maybe the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together…

I also host the ProLinux and ProPython lists, which were set up to not
clog up ProFox with discussions of moving to Linux or programming in
Python. While they were busy at first, in 2018 they had 17 and 15
messages for the *entire year*, of which 13 were the monthly/yearly
statistics postings. So those don’t really make much of an impact.

Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll
all chip in. I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as
a "thank you" for such a great resource.

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On Jan 9, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Ed Leafe  wrote:
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> around 210 messages / month

OK, before anyone starts quibbling over this: I meant 210 *postings* per month, 
which, sent to 475 subscribers, makes 99,750 total email messages sent: just 
below the 100K threshold.

-- Ed Leafe

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On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its Pricey - 
> and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when these forums 
> don't even Net you ANY $$$!

Most months were below the level that the service would be free - around 210 
messages / month. And it would be nice to not have to hunt down why various 
people aren’t getting their messages, which usually ends up being “my ISP is 
blocking you”.

> Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, if so, 
> increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, maybe the cost is 
> Per forum type - not grouped together…

I also host the ProLinux and ProPython lists, which were set up to not clog up 
ProFox with discussions of moving to Linux or programming in Python. While they 
were busy at first, in 2018 they had 17 and 15 messages for the *entire year*, 
of which 13 were the monthly/yearly statistics postings. So those don’t really 
make much of an impact.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Kurt @ Gmail

Too late - I already replied back to your last response! But - i know 
what happened - you read things in order - and replied immediately 
instead of seeing the other replies to the thread...


-K-

On 1/9/2019 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-01-09 14:13, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


    The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 
messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed
out, each post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May,
though it’s down to 474 as of Jan1
(https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K
comes from.



Ah, I see this now.  Please disregard my last post.


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions


On 2019-01-09 14:13, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 
messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed
out, each post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May,
though it’s down to 474 as of Jan1
(https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K
comes from.



Ah, I see this now.  Please disregard my last post.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Kurt @ Gmail


Mike - yeah, both Ed & Ted already answered that Q.

Issue is - its the monthly emails Times the total # of subscribers - 
which equates to the large 133K # total!


Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its 
Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when 
these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!


Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, if 
so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, maybe 
the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together...


My 2.05 centavos - upgraded for inflation...

-K-

On 1/9/2019 12:51 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-01-09 13:51, Ed Leafe wrote:

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my
domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital
Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to be running well, but if
any of you on the receiving end of things notices a problem, please
let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent
is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest
number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month
(ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at
least.



First and foremost, thanks again Ed for doing this list!!!

Help me out with that math on the above.  280 emails in May...that 
multiplied by 12 months equates to 3360 emails for the year.  Or is 
multiplied by the number of folks subscribed to arrive at your 133,000 
number?



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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions


On 2019-01-09 13:51, Ed Leafe wrote:

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my
domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital
Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to be running well, but if
any of you on the receiving end of things notices a problem, please
let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent
is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest
number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month
(ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at
least.



First and foremost, thanks again Ed for doing this list!!!

Help me out with that math on the above.  280 emails in May...that 
multiplied by 12 months equates to 3360 emails for the year.  Or is 
multiplied by the number of folks subscribed to arrive at your 133,000 
number?


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
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> The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 messages or 
> 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?

It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed out, each 
post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May, though it’s down to 474 
as of Jan1 (https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K 
comes from.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Ted Roche

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:58 PM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:

> How does 280 relate to 133,000?
>

133,000 is EXACTLY 475 times 280, so it is possible that there are 475
subscribers receiving 280 messages.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Fernando D. Bozzo

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my domain
> is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket blocks on
> any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end
> of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is
> under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of
> emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails,
> and that would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I
> will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

2019-01-09 Thread Gene Wirchenko


At 10:51 2019-01-09, Ed Leafe  wrote:
Many of you have had problems receiving mail 
from the list, as my domain is hosted on a 
server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers 
like mine (Digital Ocean). Iâm testing out a 
new relay service, Mailgun 
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to 
be running well, but if any of you on the 
receiving end of things notices a problem, 
please let me know. One other issue is the cost: 
itâs free if the total # of emails sent is 
under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last 
year the highest number of emails sent in a 
month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 
total emails, and that would have cost $120 for 
that month (ouch!). So Iâm not sure if I will 
keep it, but itâs worth a trial at least.


 The numbers do not make sense.  Does that 
"100K" mean 100,000 messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


 For testing, I suggest that you send some 
regular test messages.  You might send three per 
day evenly spaced over a week, and number 
them.  "This is test message 1.", "This is test 
message 2.", etc.  Any of us noticing some missing can let you know.


Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my domain is 
hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket blocks on any IP 
addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/). So far 
it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end of things 
notices a problem, please let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is under 
100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of emails 
sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails, and that 
would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, 
but it’s worth a trial at least.


-- Ed Leafe






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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Ted Roche

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:37 AM,
 wrote:
> I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't in the
> archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.
>

No, sorry Mike, still nothing ;)

Have a good weekend!

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox


On 2018-05-18 13:14, Ed Leafe wrote:
On May 18, 2018, at 7:37 AM, 
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:


I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't 
in the archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.


Nothing in the spam filter, so I'm not sure why they didn't get 
through.



Weird.  3 different attempts never reached the list.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Jim Brotz

Yes

On May 18, 2018 8:37 AM, 
wrote:

> I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't in
> the archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Ed Leafe

On May 18, 2018, at 7:37 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

> I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't in the 
> archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.

Nothing in the spam filter, so I'm not sure why they didn't get through.

-- Ed Leafe

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Vince Teachout


On 05/18/18 9:25 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Kurt Wendt  wrote:

PGRpdiBkaXI9J2F1dG8nPlBpbmchPC9kaXY+


Understood, comrade.
 "The frog in the pond utters an azure cry."


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RE: String help (was Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox)

2018-05-18 Thread Paul H. Tarver

I don't know if this would interest anyone but me, this thread got to me to 
thinking about a method I wrote years ago for my library class to clean text up 
and remove a default set of characters, but I can also pass a custom set of 
characters to be removed. It's called CLEANTEXT and the heart of it is the 
CHRTRAN command that Frank suggested.

His command noted it would leave behind invalid characters. So as a mental 
exercise, I created a new method called CLEANTEXT_NUMBER and it will use 
Frank's command to identify the invalid characters and then remove those 
invalid characters from the original string to leave you with only the good 
characters you want to leave behind without needing to know the invalid 
characters you want removed. In this new method, you just need to know what you 
want to keep. For example if you don't pass a value for the pcRequestedChars, 
it will assume you want just the digits to remain. But if you pass a special 
list of requested characters, it will return just those characters if they 
exist in the original string. 

PARAMETERS pcStringToClean, pcRequestedChars
LOCAL leRetVal, lcValidChars, lcRemoveChars

If pcount() = 1

lcValidChars = "0123456789" 

else

lcValidChars = pcRequestedChars

endif

lcRemoveChars = CHRTRAN(m.pcStringToClean, m. lcValidChars, "")

leRetVal = CHRTRAN(m.pcStringToClean, m.lcRemoveChars, "")

RETURN leRetVal

Stupid stuff I know, but a nice quick mental exercise! Thanks, Frank!

Paul H. Tarver

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Subject: Re: String help (was Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox)

m.x="123-456-7890"

CHRTRAN(m.x, "0123456789-", "") will leave any invalid characters behind

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 18/05/2018 08:52 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
> On 2018-05-18 08:37, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
>
>
> Well, other post still not making it, so I'll add the simple request 
> here since this went through:
>
> FieldValue1 = '123-456-7890'
>
> I want to scan for records where the field contains something OTHER 
> than digits 0-9 and a dash.  I recall it was some magic with one of 
> the TRANS that compared to itself and thus if the result was not 
> equal, it meant the field contained invalid characters outside your 
> desired set.
>
> tia,
> --Mike
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Kurt at VR-FX


Ha ha Ted - funny! What I actually wrote was...
Ping


On 5/18/2018 9:25 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Kurt Wendt  wrote:

PGRpdiBkaXI9J2F1dG8nPlBpbmchPC9kaXY+


What Kurt said. Happy Friday!



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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Ted Roche

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Kurt Wendt  wrote:
> PGRpdiBkaXI9J2F1dG8nPlBpbmchPC9kaXY+
>

What Kurt said. Happy Friday!
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Re: String help (was Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox)


On 2018-05-18 09:00, Frank Cazabon wrote:

m.x="123-456-7890"

CHRTRAN(m.x, "0123456789-", "") will leave any invalid characters 
behind


Frank.



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Re: String help (was Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox)

2018-05-18 Thread Frank Cazabon


m.x="123-456-7890"

CHRTRAN(m.x, "0123456789-", "") will leave any invalid characters behind

Frank.

Frank Cazabon

On 18/05/2018 08:52 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2018-05-18 08:37, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:


Well, other post still not making it, so I'll add the simple request 
here since this went through:


FieldValue1 = '123-456-7890'

I want to scan for records where the field contains something OTHER 
than digits 0-9 and a dash.  I recall it was some magic with one of 
the TRANS that compared to itself and thus if the result was not 
equal, it meant the field contained invalid characters outside your 
desired set.


tia,
--Mike


[excessive quoting removed by server]

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Kurt Wendt

PGRpdiBkaXI9J2F1dG8nPlBpbmchPC9kaXY+


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text/html (html body -- converted)
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String help (was Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox)


On 2018-05-18 08:37, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:


Well, other post still not making it, so I'll add the simple request 
here since this went through:


FieldValue1 = '123-456-7890'

I want to scan for records where the field contains something OTHER than 
digits 0-9 and a dash.  I recall it was some magic with one of the TRANS 
that compared to itself and thus if the result was not equal, it meant 
the field contained invalid characters outside your desired set.


tia,
--Mike

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox

2018-05-18 Thread Man-wai Chang

Message received via Gmail.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:37 PM,
 wrote:
> I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't in the
> archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing post to ProFox


On 2018-05-18 08:37, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

I've sent 2 emails in the past week that never showed up (and aren't
in the archives).  Testing to see if this gets through.



Winner

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