Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Stephen Russell]

Why use M$ CRM?

You leverage a lot of development that M$ has done in many areas that are
easily consumed in CRM.  It allows a company to get data out of excel
sheets on desktops or laptops and into phones or tablets.  If you are a
Dynamics customer it hooks right into your data, and for us, at Ring, we
just push the data we want to consume via its loaders and it is all there
ready to present.

Instead of all the focus on Salesman for CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIPS, we are
looking at customer problems with our products after purchase and hooking
that up to the quality team at the plant that made the bottles.  From CRM
the complaint is started, if credit is to be issued or a check for damages,
that value is defined.  When the plants are done on their side it appears
to customer satisfaction team who then approve the $ and set it into the
ERP however it needs to be.  we then have a history of complaints by plant
and people responsible that are all in CRM, not a spreadsheet that starts
in California and has to be picked up here in TN to be completed.

CRM can set up NAGS for the quality team to finish the blasted complaint,
or customer satisfaction to finish their end.

CRM is a really good tool to put a workflow together that attaches people
in various locations to get one thing accomplished.

We probably have 50 other CRM processes as well.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 9:28 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> What's the advantage then to using the MS-CRM?  Surely you're getting
> something for spending more $.  ???
>
>
> On 4/19/2019 10:14 AM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:
> > Your welcome Stephen.
> >
> > I was referring to the SalesForce being readily available as a Hosted
> > Solution in a Multi-tenanted model which is not the case with MS-CRM.
> >
> > You have to buy the MS-CRM & have the same hosted on a Private/Public
> > Cloud to suit the Organization's requirements. This would move up the
> > costs in comparison to SalesForce.
> >
> > You may host the MS-CRM on any Cloud including the Azure.
> >
> > Feel free to let me know if you have any further queries.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers!!!
> >
> > *Srikanth Bhandari*
> > Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
> > Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in
> >  /
> > srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com 
> > Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in 
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 1:57 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Srikanth!  I'm wondering if they can use Microsoft Azure for
> > hosting the data in the MS Cloud to lessen the cost?  When you say
> > "hosted by the Client Organization", do you mean that Corporate
> > actually
> > has a server in-house hosting this data?  I'm sure I'm mistaken
> > and it's
> > hosted in some private cloud somewhere.
> >
> >
> > On 4/18/2019 12:29 PM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I do have consulting experience in MS-CRM & Sales Force based on my
> > > in-house Experience to the same being implemented at a couple
> Client
> > > Organizations.
> > >
> > > Dynamics has an exclusive CRM Module as well as an ERP
> > Integrated once.
> > >
> > > MS-CRM is like an ERP in itself & requires to be configured from
> > scratch
> > > with capabilities for customization going to the extent of
> > creating custom
> > > fields. Has the capability to be set up for Data Exchange (EDI)
> > with other
> > > Applications.
> > >
> > > Unlike Salesforce offering Cloud capabilities on a multi-tenanted
> > > environment, bringing down the TCO, MS-CRM has to be hosted by
> > the Client
> > > Organization, which does increase the TCO substantially.
> > >
> > > SalesForce also has lower initial setup costs in comparison to
> > MS-CRM.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers!!!
> > >
> > > *Srikanth Bhandari*
> > > Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
> > > Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in
> >  /
> > srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com 
> > > Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in 
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:36 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> > > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering
> > if this is
> > >> M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime
> > >> Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft
> > Dynamics to
> > >> replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).
> > >>
> > >> Just thought I'd ask "the 

Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

On 4/19/2019 11:14 AM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:

https://cdn.technologyadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/technologyadvice-salesforce-dynamics-comparison.jpg

Take a look at this link.



Thanks!


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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Srikanth Bhandari]

https://cdn.technologyadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/technologyadvice-salesforce-dynamics-comparison.jpg

Take a look at this link.




On Fri 19 Apr, 2019, 7:28 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC, <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> What's the advantage then to using the MS-CRM?  Surely you're getting
> something for spending more $.  ???
>
>
> On 4/19/2019 10:14 AM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:
> > Your welcome Stephen.
> >
> > I was referring to the SalesForce being readily available as a Hosted
> > Solution in a Multi-tenanted model which is not the case with MS-CRM.
> >
> > You have to buy the MS-CRM & have the same hosted on a Private/Public
> > Cloud to suit the Organization's requirements. This would move up the
> > costs in comparison to SalesForce.
> >
> > You may host the MS-CRM on any Cloud including the Azure.
> >
> > Feel free to let me know if you have any further queries.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers!!!
> >
> > *Srikanth Bhandari*
> > Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
> > Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in
> >  /
> > srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com 
> > Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in 
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 1:57 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Srikanth!  I'm wondering if they can use Microsoft Azure for
> > hosting the data in the MS Cloud to lessen the cost?  When you say
> > "hosted by the Client Organization", do you mean that Corporate
> > actually
> > has a server in-house hosting this data?  I'm sure I'm mistaken
> > and it's
> > hosted in some private cloud somewhere.
> >
> >
> > On 4/18/2019 12:29 PM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I do have consulting experience in MS-CRM & Sales Force based on my
> > > in-house Experience to the same being implemented at a couple
> Client
> > > Organizations.
> > >
> > > Dynamics has an exclusive CRM Module as well as an ERP
> > Integrated once.
> > >
> > > MS-CRM is like an ERP in itself & requires to be configured from
> > scratch
> > > with capabilities for customization going to the extent of
> > creating custom
> > > fields. Has the capability to be set up for Data Exchange (EDI)
> > with other
> > > Applications.
> > >
> > > Unlike Salesforce offering Cloud capabilities on a multi-tenanted
> > > environment, bringing down the TCO, MS-CRM has to be hosted by
> > the Client
> > > Organization, which does increase the TCO substantially.
> > >
> > > SalesForce also has lower initial setup costs in comparison to
> > MS-CRM.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers!!!
> > >
> > > *Srikanth Bhandari*
> > > Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
> > > Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in
> >  /
> > srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com 
> > > Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in 
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:36 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> > > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering
> > if this is
> > >> M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime
> > >> Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft
> > Dynamics to
> > >> replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).
> > >>
> > >> Just thought I'd ask "the Fox room" for anyone with experience
> > to weigh
> > >> in on their thoughts of it.
> > >>
> > >> tia,
> > >> --Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

What's the advantage then to using the MS-CRM?  Surely you're getting 
something for spending more $.  ???



On 4/19/2019 10:14 AM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:

Your welcome Stephen.

I was referring to the SalesForce being readily available as a Hosted 
Solution in a Multi-tenanted model which is not the case with MS-CRM.


You have to buy the MS-CRM & have the same hosted on a Private/Public 
Cloud to suit the Organization's requirements. This would move up the 
costs in comparison to SalesForce.


You may host the MS-CRM on any Cloud including the Azure.

Feel free to let me know if you have any further queries.

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Cheers!!!

*Srikanth Bhandari*
Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in 
 / 
srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com 

Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in 


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 1:57 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC 
> wrote:


Thanks, Srikanth!  I'm wondering if they can use Microsoft Azure for
hosting the data in the MS Cloud to lessen the cost?  When you say
"hosted by the Client Organization", do you mean that Corporate
actually
has a server in-house hosting this data?  I'm sure I'm mistaken
and it's
hosted in some private cloud somewhere.


On 4/18/2019 12:29 PM, Srikanth Bhandari wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I do have consulting experience in MS-CRM & Sales Force based on my
> in-house Experience to the same being implemented at a couple Client
> Organizations.
>
> Dynamics has an exclusive CRM Module as well as an ERP
Integrated once.
>
> MS-CRM is like an ERP in itself & requires to be configured from
scratch
> with capabilities for customization going to the extent of
creating custom
> fields. Has the capability to be set up for Data Exchange (EDI)
with other
> Applications.
>
> Unlike Salesforce offering Cloud capabilities on a multi-tenanted
> environment, bringing down the TCO, MS-CRM has to be hosted by
the Client
> Organization, which does increase the TCO substantially.
>
> SalesForce also has lower initial setup costs in comparison to
MS-CRM.
>
> --
> Cheers!!!
>
> *Srikanth Bhandari*
> Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
> Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in
 /
srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com 
> Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in 
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:36 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> wrote:
>
>> Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering
if this is
>> M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime
>> Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft
Dynamics to
>> replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).
>>
>> Just thought I'd ask "the Fox room" for anyone with experience
to weigh
>> in on their thoughts of it.
>>
>> tia,
>> --Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
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>>

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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Stephen Russell]

We have a 1 man FTE for CRM here at Ring.  He does probably 20% of his work
for Sales and 80% for production data presentation.  Right now he is
attempting to tie data for CRM between our Vorne boards and our NWA testing
environment.  This will give a cross-reference between testing counts being
low and the line having a problem or not.

Neither of there products is a part of our ERP system, they are necessary
for use but do not tie into LN.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:29 AM Srikanth Bhandari <
srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I do have consulting experience in MS-CRM & Sales Force based on my
> in-house Experience to the same being implemented at a couple Client
> Organizations.
>
> Dynamics has an exclusive CRM Module as well as an ERP Integrated once.
>
> MS-CRM is like an ERP in itself & requires to be configured from scratch
> with capabilities for customization going to the extent of creating custom
> fields. Has the capability to be set up for Data Exchange (EDI) with other
> Applications.
>
> Unlike Salesforce offering Cloud capabilities on a multi-tenanted
> environment, bringing down the TCO, MS-CRM has to be hosted by the Client
> Organization, which does increase the TCO substantially.
>
> SalesForce also has lower initial setup costs in comparison to MS-CRM.
>
> --
> Cheers!!!
>
> *Srikanth Bhandari*
> Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
> Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in / srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com
> Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:36 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
>
> > Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering if this is
> > M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime
> > Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft Dynamics to
> > replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).
> >
> > Just thought I'd ask "the Fox room" for anyone with experience to weigh
> > in on their thoughts of it.
> >
> > tia,
> > --Mike
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Srikanth Bhandari]

Hi!

I do have consulting experience in MS-CRM & Sales Force based on my
in-house Experience to the same being implemented at a couple Client
Organizations.

Dynamics has an exclusive CRM Module as well as an ERP Integrated once.

MS-CRM is like an ERP in itself & requires to be configured from scratch
with capabilities for customization going to the extent of creating custom
fields. Has the capability to be set up for Data Exchange (EDI) with other
Applications.

Unlike Salesforce offering Cloud capabilities on a multi-tenanted
environment, bringing down the TCO, MS-CRM has to be hosted by the Client
Organization, which does increase the TCO substantially.

SalesForce also has lower initial setup costs in comparison to MS-CRM.

--
Cheers!!!

*Srikanth Bhandari*
Mobile: +91 99625 42134 / +91 99001 39393
Email: consult...@srikanthbhandari.ind.in / srikanth.bhanda...@gmail.com
Web: srikanthbhandari.ind.in


On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:36 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering if this is
> M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime
> Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft Dynamics to
> replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).
>
> Just thought I'd ask "the Fox room" for anyone with experience to weigh
> in on their thoughts of it.
>
> tia,
> --Mike
>
>
>
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Stephen Russell]

Dynamics is the M$ ERP platform.  It is massively configurable and little
programming is required after you UNDERSTAND what you are configuring to
get it to act as you want.  We at Ring are in our 11th year with Infor's LN
and we probably only have 60% implemented as of now.  I am hitting the wall
on lacking the logistics system not being implemented yet.  When that
system is running it will generate output that will make inbound EDI orders
correct in the shipping date.  Today the order provides the receipt date.
>From that date, the logistics system states the shipping date.  Too bad
that in a not working state the orders show the date the PO was received as
the shipping date.

Your system in VFP had what 5-10 years of customization at a minimum
right?  WAG here but you will need 5 years to get the core of your business
running correctly in Dynamics.  Only the senior management decides what
that core is.  Could it be GL, SO, and AR?  Or is it Production and raw
materials inventory that is more important?


On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 8:36 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering if this is
> M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime
> Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft Dynamics to
> replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).
>
> Just thought I'd ask "the Fox room" for anyone with experience to weigh
> in on their thoughts of it.
>
> tia,
> --Mike
>
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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>
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

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>  I'm wondering if this is 
> M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?

Dynamics is ERP software which I think has a CRM component, Salesforce is all 
CRM.

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[NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Any M$ Dymanics devs out there in ProFox land?  I'm wondering if this is 
M$'s equivalent to Salesforce?  We use Salesforce at my daytime 
Corporate gig.  My former employer has implemented Microsoft Dynamics to 
replace the legacy VFP app (and it's going BADLY).


Just thought I'd ask "the Fox room" for anyone with experience to weigh 
in on their thoughts of it.


tia,
--Mike



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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Stephen Russell]

I reality it looks different and acts different but over the long haul is a
better step forward for the company.  I am sure there is a ton of discounts
for taking it to the cloud and now you no longer have to do on-prem updates
going forward.  I am guessing that you can enable SSRS reporting in
addition to localized reports.  The ERP will drop a dataset in XML as a
guess and you pick it up for your customized reporting needs like BOL of
CofA.

Is this a multi-location business or is it a single location as of today.
We use LN by Infor and we can set plants to act correctly according to laws
and taxes for Canada or the UK where we have plants as well.

The jump to an ERP takes YEARS to appreciate what you got yourself into.
:)  It is not like a new car and you feel great all of a sudden.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 1:53 PM 
wrote:

> On 2018-10-23 14:12, Stephen Russell wrote:
> > Dynamics is an ERP that has a tremendous amount of set up that
> > identifies how things play out in all the different processes that are
> > happening.  An Order my now take 10+ different operations to take it in
> > status from New to Shipped.  It probably has contracts for defining
> > pricing
> > to a customer on set items and how the price can be increased or
> > decreased
> > by the system.
> >
> > What you wrote is probably super customized for 20-30 different
> > screens.
> > Dynamics has 300+ screens.  Dynamics also interacts with CRM which is
> > either a blessing or a curse.
> >
> > Did they look to Salesforce as well?
>
> No clue...no communication with dev team for years.
>
> When you go from a customized "glass slipper" app to something like what
> I saw, wow...that's a huge bucket of cold water on you as the end-user.
> I feel sorry for both end-users and devs.
>
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

On 2018-10-23 14:53, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2018-10-23 14:12, Stephen Russell wrote:

Dynamics is an ERP that has a tremendous amount of set up that
identifies how things play out in all the different processes that are
happening.  An Order my now take 10+ different operations to take it 
in
status from New to Shipped.  It probably has contracts for defining 
pricing
to a customer on set items and how the price can be increased or 
decreased

by the system.



Wonder how much that cost them to implement that across the enterprise 
(which has several hundred franchisee locations)?


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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

On 2018-10-23 14:12, Stephen Russell wrote:

Dynamics is an ERP that has a tremendous amount of set up that
identifies how things play out in all the different processes that are
happening.  An Order my now take 10+ different operations to take it in
status from New to Shipped.  It probably has contracts for defining 
pricing
to a customer on set items and how the price can be increased or 
decreased

by the system.

What you wrote is probably super customized for 20-30 different 
screens.

Dynamics has 300+ screens.  Dynamics also interacts with CRM which is
either a blessing or a curse.

Did they look to Salesforce as well?


No clue...no communication with dev team for years.

When you go from a customized "glass slipper" app to something like what 
I saw, wow...that's a huge bucket of cold water on you as the end-user.  
I feel sorry for both end-users and devs.


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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[Stephen Russell]

Dynamics is an ERP that has a tremendous amount of set up that
identifies how things play out in all the different processes that are
happening.  An Order my now take 10+ different operations to take it in
status from New to Shipped.  It probably has contracts for defining pricing
to a customer on set items and how the price can be increased or decreased
by the system.

What you wrote is probably super customized for 20-30 different screens.
Dynamics has 300+ screens.  Dynamics also interacts with CRM which is
either a blessing or a curse.

Did they look to Salesforce as well?



On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:44 PM <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> Anyone here have a GOOD experience with Microsoft Dynamics?  I just saw
> a former company of mine using it to replace an app I solidified years
> ago...and I gotta say, this replacement looks very rough...not
> user-friendly and klunky.
>
> Interested in your experience with it.
>
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[NF] Microsoft Dynamics

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

Anyone here have a GOOD experience with Microsoft Dynamics?  I just saw 
a former company of mine using it to replace an app I solidified years 
ago...and I gotta say, this replacement looks very rough...not 
user-friendly and klunky.


Interested in your experience with it.

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RE: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics NAV

[Dave Crozier]

Oh and the 38K didn't include purchasing of the software at a nominal 5K, which 
we have already done and the only import routines they could show us was via 
Excel. DOH!

Talk about profiteering Think I'll use this to become a NAV developer if 
that is what they are charging!!! grin

Dave

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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 15 April 2015 18:10
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Subject: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics NAV

Our new parent company have thrust upon us that we have to migrate to Microsoft 
NAV Dynamics in order to product the accounts. From what I see of it, it is 
fairly complex and obviously is related back to Great Plains Accounting system 
which I actually did some work on many years ago. The language used to do 
development is called C/AL  and seems to be a wrapper around T-SQL.

Anyone had any exposure to either the product or the Language? Also, do ew need 
(and can we get) a C/AL development kit without undergoing all the M$ training 
and expense etc. Our big problem is that we need a basic General Ledger set up 
with daily sales import from VFP  (no problem there!!!) but it needs to be 
up and going before the end of April GULP so we are up against a tight 
timeframe.

We just had a quotation to install it on our hardware for 5 users (only one of 
which is needed at the moment) with standard company ledger templates for 38K 
Sterling... I nearly dropped corklegged and this stinks of SQP where the end 
user seems to be seen as a cash cow because nobody can go anywhere else.

Ideas folks??

Dave


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[NF] Microsoft Dynamics NAV

[Dave Crozier]

Our new parent company have thrust upon us that we have to migrate to Microsoft 
NAV Dynamics in order to product the accounts. From what I see of it, it is 
fairly complex and obviously is related back to Great Plains Accounting system 
which I actually did some work on many years ago. The language used to do 
development is called C/AL  and seems to be a wrapper around T-SQL.

Anyone had any exposure to either the product or the Language? Also, do ew need 
(and can we get) a C/AL development kit without undergoing all the M$ training 
and expense etc. Our big problem is that we need a basic General Ledger set up 
with daily sales import from VFP  (no problem there!!!) but it needs to be 
up and going before the end of April GULP so we are up against a tight 
timeframe.

We just had a quotation to install it on our hardware for 5 users (only one of 
which is needed at the moment) with standard company ledger templates for 38K 
Sterling... I nearly dropped corklegged and this stinks of SQP where the end 
user seems to be seen as a cash cow because nobody can go anywhere else.

Ideas folks??

Dave


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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics NAV

[Ted Roche]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
 Oh and the 38K didn't include purchasing of the software at a nominal 5K, 
 which we have already done and the only import routines they could show us 
 was via Excel. DOH!

 Talk about profiteering Think I'll use this to become a NAV developer if 
 that is what they are charging!!! grin

That's pretty much how they sum it up on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Dynamics

There are some MSDN pages. I'm not sure how much of the SDK you can
access for free:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa155303.aspx

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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics NAV

[Stephen Russell]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:

 Our new parent company have thrust upon us that we have to migrate to
 Microsoft NAV Dynamics in order to product the accounts. From what I see of
 it, it is fairly complex and obviously is related back to Great Plains
 Accounting system which I actually did some work on many years ago. The
 language used to do development is called C/AL  and seems to be a wrapper
 around T-SQL.

 Anyone had any exposure to either the product or the Language? Also, do ew
 need (and can we get) a C/AL development kit without undergoing all the M$
 training and expense etc. Our big problem is that we need a basic General
 Ledger set up with daily sales import from VFP  (no problem there!!!)
 but it needs to be up and going before the end of April GULP so we
 are up against a tight timeframe.

 We just had a quotation to install it on our hardware for 5 users (only
 one of which is needed at the moment) with standard company ledger
 templates for 38K Sterling... I nearly dropped corklegged and this stinks
 of SQP where the end user seems to be seen as a cash cow because nobody can
 go anywhere else.
 ---


We only use M$ CRM and no other part of Dynamics.

There may be an SDK that you present your transaction to in ususally XML
format and it does all the voodoo to make the insert.  Our ERP, LN by
Infor, has one as does SAP and other ERPs.

Once you get the schema for the XML BOD it is really easy to dump on
demand.




-- 
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Sr. Analyst
Ring Container Technology
Oakland TN

901.246-0159 cell


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RE: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software

[Dave Crozier]

Mike,
Don't go there . there be Demons.

Seriously, you need a strong constitution to get stuck into that software. It 
is definitely a total mish-mash of other produts and M$ took the bad bits from 
all of them. Personally I'd prefer to gouge my eyes out with hot sticks...

After an initial evaluation and a recommendation from elsewhere I dismissed it 
totally despite the fact that it would have cost nothing, being available on 
our MSDN licence.

Dave

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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Sent: 13 October 2011 19:29
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software

We're making some proposals to a client about their need for an 
accounting software that uses our data along with their inputs.  One 
option is us custom building an app to run at their site; another option 
is for us to modify an existing app that runs here at our shop and they 
send us periodic data and we in turn return reports to them; and the 
last option is them using Microsoft Dynamics GP with its Payable and 
Receivable Management modules.  M$ Dynamic GP costs $25,000 plus $25,000 
for installation/training plus moderate licensing fees  maintenance costs.

I wanted to solicit comments on others experience with Microsoft 
Dynamics GP.

Thanks,
--Mike

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Chief Software Architect
MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://www.mbsoftwaresolutions.com
p: 717-350-2759
f: 815-642-9707

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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software

[Mike Copeland]

Mike,

Sage advice has been given here...but if you do decide to venture forth, 
be sure you charge a hefty rate. And then add a bumper. Dynamics will 
either make your ulcers worse, or give them if you don't already have. 
It's not un-doable, just not a pleasant experience in any sense.

Mike

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Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software
From: Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Date: 10/14/2011 2:07 AM

Mike,
Don't go there . there be Demons.

Seriously, you need a strong constitution to get stuck into that software. It 
is definitely a total mish-mash of other produts and M$ took the bad bits from 
all of them. Personally I'd prefer to gouge my eyes out with hot sticks...

After an initial evaluation and a recommendation from elsewhere I dismissed it 
totally despite the fact that it would have cost nothing, being available on 
our MSDN licence.

Dave

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From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Sent: 13 October 2011 19:29
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software

We're making some proposals to a client about their need for an
accounting software that uses our data along with their inputs.  One
option is us custom building an app to run at their site; another option
is for us to modify an existing app that runs here at our shop and they
send us periodic data and we in turn return reports to them; and the
last option is them using Microsoft Dynamics GP with its Payable and
Receivable Management modules.  M$ Dynamic GP costs $25,000 plus $25,000
for installation/training plus moderate licensing fees  maintenance costs.

I wanted to solicit comments on others experience with Microsoft
Dynamics GP.

Thanks,
--Mike




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[NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software

[Michael J. Babcock, MCP]

We're making some proposals to a client about their need for an 
accounting software that uses our data along with their inputs.  One 
option is us custom building an app to run at their site; another option 
is for us to modify an existing app that runs here at our shop and they 
send us periodic data and we in turn return reports to them; and the 
last option is them using Microsoft Dynamics GP with its Payable and 
Receivable Management modules.  M$ Dynamic GP costs $25,000 plus $25,000 
for installation/training plus moderate licensing fees  maintenance costs.

I wanted to solicit comments on others experience with Microsoft 
Dynamics GP.

Thanks,
--Mike

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Chief Software Architect
MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://www.mbsoftwaresolutions.com
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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Great Plains software

[Fred Taylor]

Run!

Seriously, it's a complicated mess.

Fred


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Michael J. Babcock, MCP 
mbabc...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

 We're making some proposals to a client about their need for an
 accounting software that uses our data along with their inputs.  One
 option is us custom building an app to run at their site; another option
 is for us to modify an existing app that runs here at our shop and they
 send us periodic data and we in turn return reports to them; and the
 last option is them using Microsoft Dynamics GP with its Payable and
 Receivable Management modules.  M$ Dynamic GP costs $25,000 plus $25,000
 for installation/training plus moderate licensing fees  maintenance costs.

 I wanted to solicit comments on others experience with Microsoft
 Dynamics GP.

 Thanks,
 --Mike

 --

 Michael J. Babcock, MCP
 Chief Software Architect
 MB Software Solutions, LLC
 http://www.mbsoftwaresolutions.com
 p: 717-350-2759
 f: 815-642-9707

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[NF] Microsoft Dynamics Lead Referral Program

[Jeff Johnson]

What a concept! They will pay you to turn over a project you can't handle.


Microsoft Lead Referral Program - Earn up to $20,000 from Microsoft for 
leads that close

Webinar Registration

Microsoft has a new program that will pay partners for leads they submit 
which may be outside of their competency. It's an exciting program so I 
have asked the Microsoft Team that created the new program to explain it 
to our community through this webcast. I will also be announcing two new 
lead generation programs we are testing now and hope to roll out soon. 
Here is a brief description of the webcast, and I hope you can join us!

Microsoft Dynamics Lead Referral Program – Earn up to $20,000 per 
Opportunity Resulting in a Transaction

Have you uncovered any sales opportunities that aren't in your company's 
vertical/industry area of expertise? Are you a Microsoft Dynamics ERP 
partner that doesn't sell Microsoft Dynamics CRM or vice versa? Perhaps 
a platform partner that doesn't sell Microsoft Dynamics? Learn about the 
Microsoft Dynamics Lead Referral Program and understand how you can earn 
up to $20,000 per opportunity resulting in a transaction by passing 
along sales leads to Microsoft.

Join Kevin Machayya, Senior Partner Development Manager – Microsoft 
Corporation, as he explains the how to participate in the program and 
earn incremental revenue for your partner organization.

Brian Ocheltree
PartnerPoint
P.O. Box 242
Glenelg, MD 21737-0242
tel 800.401.8413, ext 703

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Re: [NF] Microsoft Dynamics Lead Referral Program

[Stephen Russell]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:
 What a concept! They will pay you to turn over a project you can't handle.
-

That is pretty cool.

I spoke with an IT director that just got into this System and he said
it is pretty huge.  They are only doing the part of the ERP now and
implementing the changes it has to do for their CUT operations.  They
are in fashion/clothing adn leaving material waste on the table is a
big part of the bottom line.

They buy the material here, cut it and ship it overseas to be
stitched, I think.  It may be cut there as well???

Anyway this ERP system is tremendous compared to the one they had on
their AS400.


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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
CIMSgts

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