Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Michael Madigan wrote: You forgot This is OT, where's my Kotex? LOL ROFL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
CompUSA closed all it stores near me months ago ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
buy online and lose more jobs Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 18 December 2007 23:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) There just isn't enough money in selling computers retail. They closed the NJ stores last year. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Allen wrote: buy online and lose more jobs Yeah, but when you can get a Dell desktop for EUR 349 online why would you drive to a shop? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
not if you want to start paying for more unemployed no what do I care Im employed. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Allen wrote: buy online and lose more jobs Allen Go into the brick and mortar stores and pay more to keep them around? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Allen wrote: not if you want to start paying for more unemployed no what do I care Im employed. A So you never go to malls and only frequent mom and pop stores then ? :) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Alan Bourke wrote: Allen wrote: not if you want to start paying for more unemployed no what do I care Im employed. A So you never go to malls and only frequent mom and pop stores then ? :) Think globally; act locally. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Allen wrote: buy online and lose more jobs Allen Go into the brick and mortar stores and pay more to keep them around? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
I do support local store where possible. Having said that there are not many here. I have a 20 minute drive. I do buy dvd's of the internet and some computer parts. Computer shops are not frequent here either. There is one shop in town and I do buy computer parts there but its limited. I think with the internet it will get harder to buy local. Many shops in the uk have closed down. The number of charity shops is increasing. No future because people want the cheapest and never mind the concequencies. The french are good though. they do buy french cars. Not a good idea really but they still do. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 19 December 2007 13:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) Allen wrote: not if you want to start paying for more unemployed no what do I care Im employed. A So you never go to malls and only frequent mom and pop stores then ? :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
I think it really due to two other issues: 1) CompUSA lost focus and began to get into more consumer electronics (TVs) as opposed to remaining in their niche, 2) with so much invested by Mexican investors recently (over $2 billion), and the US Dollar slipping against pretty much every significant currency (including the Mexican Peso!), the investors' capital investment would have lost money even if CompUSA was nominally profitable. I think it is more a matter of these particular Mexican investors pulling out of a US investment due to currency devaluation when it is held in US $, plus the relatively poor performance of CompUSA to boot. I do not foresee the US $ becoming stronger as long as we have a mad man at the helm continuing to mortgage our great-grandchildrens' futures for the self acclaimed Greater Good with his insane swipe at Iraq that serves no real purpose than to line the pockets of the various corporations that profit from the war. Further, the Chinese hold a lot of US securities, government and private, and at some point they too will tire of the slipping US $ valuation and dump those securities. You think gasoline and food is expensive now? Just wait until that piper gets paid! CompUSA is just the first of several such bailing foreign investors to come, IMHO... Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) buy online and lose more jobs Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 18 December 2007 23:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) There just isn't enough money in selling computers retail. They closed the NJ stores last year. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
So you never go to malls and only frequent mom and pop stores then ? :) As much as possible. You get much better service than with the cookie cutter stores that have gum chewing nitwits behind the counter talking to their boyfriends on the phone. -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
There are certainly some areas where I make real efforts to buy locally, mostly entertainment items like video games, DVD's, music and so on. The situation I face is that with two SuperCenters within 15 miles of my home, Walmart has essentially taken over my local retail environment. This is where online comes in for me. My support of entertainment purchases is really more of a anti-Walmart move than an anti-online move. I completely reject the concept that I should in some way feel guilty about buying online vs locally, I don't believe that is where the threat to the small retailer truly lies. If anything, the advent of online shopping has made my local retailers more diversified and a whole lot more competitive in terms of price and customer service than they ever were before, and as a consumer, I like that and support it through my purchasing. David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) I do support local store where possible. Having said that there are not many here. I have a 20 minute drive. I do buy dvd's of the internet and some computer parts. Computer shops are not frequent here either. There is one shop in town and I do buy computer parts there but its limited. I think with the internet it will get harder to buy local. Many shops in the uk have closed down. The number of charity shops is increasing. No future because people want the cheapest and never mind the concequencies. The french are good though. they do buy french cars. Not a good idea really but they still do. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 19 December 2007 13:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) Allen wrote: not if you want to start paying for more unemployed no what do I care Im employed. A So you never go to malls and only frequent mom and pop stores then ? :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You get much better service And you pay a premium for it which is due to economies of scale. I bought a 4BG Sony memory card last year from Hong Kong, delivered to my door in Ireland, for about half what it would cost in my local Sony shop. That's a no brainer. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
On Dec 19, 2007 8:19 AM, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You get much better service And you pay a premium for it which is due to economies of scale. I bought a 4BG Sony memory card last year from Hong Kong, delivered to my door in Ireland, for about half what it would cost in my local Sony shop. That's a no brainer. I get a cheapskates rss feed daily that points out a great buy that can be made. Unfortunately I have to think why do I need that cool toy. Today is a tiny laser printer Brother HL-2040 for 64.99 free shipping. I don't need one, and the cartridges are a bit expensive. But I was real close to owning one this morning. :) -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
How are you losing jobs by buying online. You would be creating more jobs in the distribution/ shipping center! Mike Wohlrab On Dec 19, 2007 9:30 AM, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 8:19 AM, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You get much better service And you pay a premium for it which is due to economies of scale. I bought a 4BG Sony memory card last year from Hong Kong, delivered to my door in Ireland, for about half what it would cost in my local Sony shop. That's a no brainer. I get a cheapskates rss feed daily that points out a great buy that can be made. Unfortunately I have to think why do I need that cool toy. Today is a tiny laser printer Brother HL-2040 for 64.99 free shipping. I don't need one, and the cartridges are a bit expensive. But I was real close to owning one this morning. :) -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Allen wrote: The french are good though. they do buy french cars. Not a good idea really but they still do. I know exactly what you mean, having just got rid of a citroen Xsara after 5 years. Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
On Dec 19, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Allen wrote: jobs for monkeys instead of those that knew something. An example of what its done. Once you could go in a bookshop and ask for a book and the saleman/woman would know all about it. Pretty neat with the amount of books available. Now you go in and some spotty will say its not on the computer cant help you mate. I don't follow. You're saying that bookstores used to offer superior service, but that people preferred online buying, resulting in bookstores having to cut wages to compete, which then results in poor service. Sounds to me like most people don't value the sort of service that was formerly available. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
but what happens for example when tv shops close down and you cant go in to look at what your going to buy off the internet ? Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Well, I grew up in the arse end of nowhere and it was a 30 mile drive just to find somewhere with *any* sort of a range of books, or CDs, or computer software. I'm not going back to that. I think the online thing is suited to some types of retail and not others. I would rather buy meat, veg and the like from local producers in local shops (in Royston Vasey!). Books also. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
jobs for monkeys instead of those that knew something. An example of what its done. Once you could go in a bookshop and ask for a book and the saleman/woman would know all about it. Pretty neat with the amount of books available. Now you go in and some spotty will say its not on the computer cant help you mate. oh well if thats what you want you can close down the schools as well as they wont be required for future jobs. That will save some money as well. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wohlrab Sent: 19 December 2007 15:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) How are you losing jobs by buying online. You would be creating more jobs in the distribution/ shipping center! Mike Wohlrab No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Allen wrote: oh well if thats what you want you can close down the schools as well as they wont be required for future jobs. That will save some money as well. Allen Well, I grew up in the arse end of nowhere and it was a 30 mile drive just to find somewhere with *any* sort of a range of books, or CDs, or computer software. I'm not going back to that. I think the online thing is suited to some types of retail and not others. I would rather buy meat, veg and the like from local producers in local shops (in Royston Vasey!). Books also. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
You get much better service And you pay a premium for it which is due to economies of scale. I bought a 4BG Sony memory card last year from Hong Kong, delivered to my door in Ireland, for about half what it would cost in my local Sony shop. That's a no brainer. That really a commodity purchase, and if there is a big savings, I buy some things online. However, for general merchandise, my time and mental well being are important to me... I hate lines. Also, the last time I bought a suit (some of you guys will remember what that is... pants and a jacket that match) I chose one at a shop where they altered it to fit properly, rather than picking one off the rack and expecting all the pieces to fit right. Yeah, I don't think they sell those at WalMart. Speaking of WalMart, have any of you ever bought or watched people buying shoes at the store - grabbing them off the shelf, sticking their grungy feet in and putting them back. Sure Florsheims cost a little more, but you get a better shoe and they are clean. One more thing, before you jump on me for being too elitist, I bought my work boots at WalMart - and hated every minute of the process. ;-) -- Larry Miller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html message/rfc822 --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
On the wallmart kick Years ago a couple of large supermarkets took over from small shops. Tescos is one and the USA is about to get some. Sainsburies the other. These 2 got rid of many small shops that could not compete with the buying power. Then Wallmart took over ASDA and Tesco had the cheek to moan about large businesses screwing their share up. Pot and Kettle indeed Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] One more thing, before you jump on me for being too elitist, I bought my work boots at WalMart - and hated every minute of the process. ;-) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
On Dec 19, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: Sounds to me like most people don't value the sort of service that was formerly available. Exactly. It is just change. Change always has winners and losers. And don't forget: *we* are to blame or credit depending on your perspective. Information systems like those we design replaced much of the work that used to be done by clerks. Is it better that you can browse a book, even read a sample on Amazon than have a knowledgeable book store clerk recommend one for you? Some people yes, some 'no. A personal example: A small business client of mine had 4 clerical employees when I started designing systems for him. Most recently, he runs the business with 1. Each time I automated one more task, he was able to have one less employee. He didn't fire them, BTW. Some retired, some left for their own reasons. No matter, if not for me, he would have employed 3 more. Oh, and he would have gone out of business a few years earlier. Is this good or bad? My answer is no, it is just change. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
On Dec 19, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Allen wrote: well I think that seems to be correct. expertise is no longer any use. That doesn't follow at all. There is still a lot of expertise, but instead of being in the head of any one individual in a single store, it's now available to all via the online reviews. If there were no use for expertise, none of these sites would include reviews, would they? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Allen wrote: but what happens for example when tv shops close down and you cant go in to look at what your going to buy off the internet ? TV shops won't be closing down for that very reason. But they will probably be staffed by Spotty Herberts, whose function is only to arrange loading it into the car. People are more and more tech savvy in terms of consumer electronics, they don't need to discuss the ins and outs of the technical aspects with someone, they just need to evaluate in physical terms whether it will fit in the corner of the room and what the picture is like. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
thats just a load of people who think their experts. Or company workers, who knows. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 19 December 2007 16:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) On Dec 19, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Allen wrote: well I think that seems to be correct. expertise is no longer any use. That doesn't follow at all. There is still a lot of expertise, but instead of being in the head of any one individual in a single store, it's now available to all via the online reviews. If there were no use for expertise, none of these sites would include reviews, would they? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
I dont get that reasoning. How can shops survive if people just use them to look and then go home and buy of the internet ? Allen They don't survive as is, but they can morph into other things. As more and commodity buying happens over the Internet, there's more room for invention with enterprises that aren't commodity based. Consider just the possibilities with entertainment and education, not to mention that distributed manufacturing is still happening somewhere, and that could be right in our own countries if tariffs and taxes are handled right (a *gradual* move in the direction of a free world-economy), and that would boost prosperity in rural areas and gives people who want to live in the country the chance to. Why don't we have parks all over the place - within distance that we can walk to? Why no amphitheatres, so ubiquitous in ancient Greece, but completely unavailable to us now? What happened to casual meeting/milling places? Why can't some re-born commodities businesses big on building and maintain a park in your part of town? What about an amphitheatre company instead of a furniture store? If it takes an acre instead of a small building, that's good - use up that space provided by people moving into the country :) Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Note that by replying, I'm not condoning this completely [OT] thread being on ProfoxTech. g I try to buy locally from independent stores (mom and pop) whereever possible. This keeps the small town charm alive and puts real money into the pockets of real people that need it to stay alive. It also keeps sales tax revenue in my locality, and these days it is sales tax that keeps the fire department, police department, and other crucial city and county services running. There's a certain threshold though beyond which I won't go with the local specialty stores, and that is usually when it comes to special-ordering something from a manufacturer than the retailer doesn't usually deal with. From there, I'll drive 20 minutes to the 'big-box' stores or order it online. But I stay away from the mega online retailers wherever possible. I buy books from Powell's in Portland OR instead of Amazon, for instance. Music I either buy directly from the individual band or I drive to Santa Cruz to Streetlight Records, an independent store. I avoid Walmart at all costs, and actively try to persuade people to cease shopping there. I do buy things at the local Target and Ace Hardware, as they pay decently well, support local nonprofits, and the sales tax revenue goes to my city's coffers. Just my 2 pennies. Now, let's get back on topic! Paul -- http://paulmcnett.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
On Dec 19, 2007 7:32 AM, MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go into the brick and mortar stores and pay more to keep them around? In some cases, yes. I patronized a local computer bookstore for years, despite cheaper prices available online. The staff were knowledgeable and helpful. There was always a fresh pot of coffee in the back. There was a great chance to browse and heft and read a chapter of two before deciding on a book, or come across a book you might not have given a second glance. Good publishers maintained buy 5, get the sixth free, punch your ticket promotions and such. The occasional O'Reilly Hurts sales with slightly damaged books at 40-75% cover prices was very popular. Even when I moved 80 miles away, we made the trek every couple of months and never got out with less than $150 worth of books (It didn't hurt there was an awesome Thai restaurant in the next block!). Alas, my every-four-fortnights trips weren't enought to keep the store open. They've closed. I valued their service; obviously, not enough others did. (It's also that most answers can be found online with a search engine, and perhaps the era of print technical books for ephemeral products is waning, too, another discussion topic.) I patronize the local town pet food and grain store, rather than the BigBoxPetStore I pass by on my way to grocery-shopping. My local merchant knows my dogs by first name, is a handy reference for pet first aid, has good recommendations on pet sitters and which kennels to avoid. Paying a premium price for good service makes sense. Petco has to have eaten away at her profits, but the convenience of a local and knowledgeable vendor compensates somewhat. Brick-and-mortar brings little value to computer hardware unless it is backed up by other services that are of value for the consumer. Most consumer-grade computers are filled with junk and made cheaper than the business-grade parts we'd most likely prefer. For myself, I buy online. For my clients, I line them up with a local shop that knows how to build and service their hardware, is available or on-call, because that's the value to them: they want Bob to show up on-site and fix things today or tomorrow, not to call some BigBoxWebSite and get clueless tech support or a high school enthusiast who doesn't understand the importance of computers to a business. But it depends on the customer and their definition of 'value.' -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
I know, kids! Let's Play Off-Topic Bingo: fill in 5x5 squares will all your favorite topics or phrases. 'X' them out as you follow the thread: currency, Mexico, globalization, madman, Hitler (instant Goodwin's Law win!!!), Iran, unions, Iraq, China, North Korea, communism, socialism, dabo g,dr, democrats, Constitution, health care, Walmart, poor, Pledge, altheism, Christmas, monkey, evolution, arse, Italians, spotty (?), blah, blah, blah: fun for the whole family! On Dec 19, 2007 8:10 AM, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah, blah, blah CompUSA lost focus... blah, blah, blah Mexican investors blah, blah, blah currency devaluation blah, blah, blah mad man at the helm blah, blah, blah our great-grandchildrens' futures for the self blah, blah, blah insane swipe at Iraq blah, blah, blah the Chinese blah, blah, blah gasoline and food is ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Now, now - don't be parochial! How about EU and EEC as well. g John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 I know, kids! Let's Play Off-Topic Bingo: fill in 5x5 squares will all your favorite topics or phrases. 'X' them out as you follow the thread: currency, Mexico, globalization, madman, Hitler (instant Goodwin's Law win!!!), Iran, unions, Iraq, China, North Korea, communism, socialism, dabo g,dr, democrats, Constitution, health care, Walmart, poor, Pledge, altheism, Christmas, monkey, evolution, arse, Italians, spotty (?), blah, blah, blah: fun for the whole family! On Dec 19, 2007 8:10 AM, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah, blah, blah CompUSA lost focus... blah, blah, blah Mexican investors blah, blah, blah currency devaluation blah, blah, blah mad man at the helm blah, blah, blah our great-grandchildrens' futures for the self blah, blah, blah insane swipe at Iraq blah, blah, blah the Chinese blah, blah, blah gasoline and food is ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
Ted Roche wrote: I know, kids! Let's Play Off-Topic Bingo: fill in 5x5 squares will all your favorite topics or phrases. 'X' them out as you follow the thread: currency, Mexico, globalization, madman, Hitler (instant Goodwin's Law win!!!), Iran, unions, Iraq, China, North Korea, communism, socialism, dabo g,dr, democrats, Constitution, health care, Walmart, poor, Pledge, altheism, Christmas, monkey, evolution, arse, Italians, spotty (?), blah, blah, blah: fun for the whole family! LOL! Where's that FoxForward 2K8 scholarship link to start collecting fines for a good cause! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
that certainly is the current trend yes, didnt use to be. and yes they used to know about what they sell. try that in a pcworld. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 19 December 2007 17:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Allen wrote: thats just a load of people who think their experts. Or company workers, who knows. Yeah, and everyone in your idealized bookstores was well-informed and without bias. I'm sure they didn't get commissions, either, and would never encourage you to buy the more expensive book (or books). No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
You forgot This is OT, where's my Kotex? LOL --- Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, kids! Let's Play Off-Topic Bingo: fill in 5x5 squares will all your favorite topics or phrases. 'X' them out as you follow the thread: currency, Mexico, globalization, madman, Hitler (instant Goodwin's Law win!!!), Iran, unions, Iraq, China, North Korea, communism, socialism, dabo g,dr, democrats, Constitution, health care, Walmart, poor, Pledge, altheism, Christmas, monkey, evolution, arse, Italians, spotty (?), blah, blah, blah: fun for the whole family! On Dec 19, 2007 8:10 AM, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah, blah, blah CompUSA lost focus... blah, blah, blah Mexican investors blah, blah, blah currency devaluation blah, blah, blah mad man at the helm blah, blah, blah our great-grandchildrens' futures for the self blah, blah, blah insane swipe at Iraq blah, blah, blah the Chinese blah, blah, blah gasoline and food is ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
What you can't get from Amazon is that priceless personal interaction with that ponytail guy with the nose ring and the bones through his ears, who works the register. You can't get that on Amazon. LOL --- Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that certainly is the current trend yes, didnt use to be. and yes they used to know about what they sell. try that in a pcworld. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: 19 December 2007 17:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame) On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:02 AM, Allen wrote: thats just a load of people who think their experts. Or company workers, who knows. Yeah, and everyone in your idealized bookstores was well-informed and without bias. I'm sure they didn't get commissions, either, and would never encourage you to buy the more expensive book (or books). No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 21:40 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] CompUSA to close (was Re: [NF] -Digital Photo Frame)
There just isn't enough money in selling computers retail. They closed the NJ stores last year. --- MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: and compusa.com http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?Ntt=digital+picture+framesN=0Dx=mode+matchallNty=1D=digital+picture+framesNs=customer%5Frating%7C1Ntk=All#sort1 btw -- CompUSA is closing shop in case you hadn't heard: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9831235-7.html -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.