Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
What about uninstalling but not using Norton itself to accomplish the job? Perhaps a tool like Revo Uninstaller would handle the job. ::m Ted Roche wrote: On 9/4/07, Jeff Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this may be what you've already found googling but I've used it quite a few times to remove a messed up norton install (from symantec's site): Thanks, Jeff, but you're right: that's exactly where this thread started. Attempting to uninstall Norton means that ALL Symantec products have to be uninstalled and reinstalled. The odds of success in getting these products to successfully uninstall and reinstall on a six-year-old machine do not make me comfortable, even if I can come up with all of the original disks, keys, etc. Han Solo: Never tell me the odds! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
Anyone have recommendations for techniques they have used that work? And, no, upgrading the OS is not an option, due to other apps that depend on it. Why not email Symantec? :) -- @~@http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.22.6 /( _ )\ (Xubuntu 7.04) 17:05:01 up 2 days 29 min ^ ^0 users load average: 0.03 0.01 0.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
My recommendation for any Norton product is to nail it to a frisbee and fling it over a rainbow. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
Why not uninstall everything then reinstall Ghost and pcAnywhere. I have both of these programs on my system running for years without the need for Norton's Antivirus or Security programs. I use AVG Antispyware, AVAST antivirus and Sygate firewall (the original one not the one by Symantec). They have done a great job protecting my PCs. - Original Message - From: Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal? The latest NAV 2007 will not upgrade a working Windows 2000 computer thats running NAV 2006. So, we need to remove NAV. Googling yields a Symantec uninstaller that demands we uninstall Norton Ghost and PCAnywhere before we can remove NAV. Talk about bundling! We need the Ghost and PCAnywhere functionality, but need to completely disable NAV. Anyone have recommendations for techniques they have used that work? And, no, upgrading the OS is not an option, due to other apps that depend on it. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
this may be what you've already found googling but I've used it quite a few times to remove a messed up norton install (from symantec's site): Download and run the Norton Removal Tool http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 On 9/4/07, Nicholas Geti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not uninstall everything then reinstall Ghost and pcAnywhere. I have both of these programs on my system running for years without the need for Norton's Antivirus or Security programs. I use AVG Antispyware, AVAST antivirus and Sygate firewall (the original one not the one by Symantec). They have done a great job protecting my PCs. - Original Message - From: Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal? The latest NAV 2007 will not upgrade a working Windows 2000 computer thats running NAV 2006. So, we need to remove NAV. Googling yields a Symantec uninstaller that demands we uninstall Norton Ghost and PCAnywhere before we can remove NAV. Talk about bundling! We need the Ghost and PCAnywhere functionality, but need to completely disable NAV. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On 9/4/07, Jeff Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this may be what you've already found googling but I've used it quite a few times to remove a messed up norton install (from symantec's site): Thanks, Jeff, but you're right: that's exactly where this thread started. Attempting to uninstall Norton means that ALL Symantec products have to be uninstalled and reinstalled. The odds of success in getting these products to successfully uninstall and reinstall on a six-year-old machine do not make me comfortable, even if I can come up with all of the original disks, keys, etc. Han Solo: Never tell me the odds! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
Maybe hit the registry and look for all occurrences of nav, then delete them. Install AVG or Avast. JH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:10 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal? The latest NAV 2007 will not upgrade a working Windows 2000 computer thats running NAV 2006. So, we need to remove NAV. Googling yields a Symantec uninstaller that demands we uninstall Norton Ghost and PCAnywhere before we can remove NAV. Talk about bundling! We need the Ghost and PCAnywhere functionality, but need to completely disable NAV. Anyone have recommendations for techniques they have used that work? And, no, upgrading the OS is not an option, due to other apps that depend on it. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On 9/3/07, Michael Hawksworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: History shows that you will end up uninstalling the others or corrupt them enough you have to re-install them anyway :( Isn't that atrocious? This is a mission-critical machine used to connect to various remote sites. Norton no longer supports their anti-virus application on the machine, leaving it unprotected. We can't uninstall NAV without uninstalling every Symantec application on the machine, including PCAnywhere and Ghost. That's pathetic. For now, we'll turn off every option we can in Norton, and install ClamAV instead. Thanks. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Ted Roche wrote: This is a mission-critical machine used to connect to various remote sites. Mission-critical machines that rely on 3rd-party anti-virus programs. Hmmm... Norton no longer supports their anti-virus application on the machine, leaving it unprotected. We can't uninstall NAV without uninstalling every Symantec application on the machine, including PCAnywhere and Ghost. That's pathetic. For now, we'll turn off every option we can in Norton, and install ClamAV instead. Sounds like in some way or another you're going to pay for the original decision to rely on Norton. I think you're correct that your best bet is to bite the bullet now and get rid of as much proprietary lock-in crap as possible. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
If I'm wrong someone will correct me but I don't think that NAV 2007 will run on any W2K computer. I think that XP is required. You can however re-license your NAV 2006 by going to their website or I think you can also do it by running live update. Bill The latest NAV 2007 will not upgrade a working Windows 2000 computer thats running NAV 2006. So, we need to remove NAV. Googling yields a Symantec uninstaller that demands we uninstall Norton Ghost and PCAnywhere before we can remove NAV. Talk about bundling! We need the Ghost and PCAnywhere functionality, but need to completely disable NAV. Anyone have recommendations for techniques they have used that work? And, no, upgrading the OS is not an option, due to other apps that depend on it. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On Sep 3, 2007, at 12:17 PM, mrgmhale wrote: Bill is correct. You can still get NAV 2006 at www.buycheapsoftware.com, But is the level of protection in 2006 the same as 2007? Isn't the issue that he already has 2006, and needs to upgrade to 2007 to remain fully protected? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
The move to NAV 2007 vs staying with NAV2006 was indeed the issue, but with Win2k it is not a viable option. Hence th need to move to different app, or update the signature file subscription. The new retail NAV2006 from buycheapsoftware.com, even with shipping, is less than a renewal from Symantec. Re: 2006 vs 2007 (much NAV2008 that is now out), NAV2006 is a fine version to stay on. NAV2007 is a little simpler looking, until one needs to get into the inner workings to set certain options that are not as obvious to find. And, NAV2007 is supposedly a bit better at intercepting Spyware than 2006. I have used both in places where SAV Corporate is not used, and both do a fine job. http://www.symantec.com/norton/blog/detail.jsp?blogid=nis2007betaprofileid= laura_garcia-manrique http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-security-and-firewall/norton-antivirus-2007 /4505-3667_7-32069537.html?tag=b_readfull (there are references to 2006 and prior versions vs 2007) Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal? On Sep 3, 2007, at 12:17 PM, mrgmhale wrote: Bill is correct. You can still get NAV 2006 at www.buycheapsoftware.com, But is the level of protection in 2006 the same as 2007? Isn't the issue that he already has 2006, and needs to upgrade to 2007 to remain fully protected? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On Sep 3, 2007, at 12:59 PM, mrgmhale wrote: Re: 2006 vs 2007 (much NAV2008 that is now out), NAV2006 is a fine version to stay on. NAV2007 is a little simpler looking, until one needs to get into the inner workings to set certain options that are not as obvious to find. And, NAV2007 is supposedly a bit better at intercepting Spyware than 2006. I have used both in places where SAV Corporate is not used, and both do a fine job. The point is this: unless 2006 can be kept current with all necessary malware protection, staying with an outdated (and hence dangerous) version is not an option. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
It is a shame that even Win2k is now being moved aside in favor of XP and even Vista OS platforms for AV protection software. But, then again, there is not much market demand for Win ME/98se/98/95/3.x/DOS any longer. I am not as familiar with other AV software as I am with Symantec/Norton, likely because I am a Symantec user (no flame-mail please, set up correctly they do a great job). Sometimes other products will edge Norton/Symantec out in their side-by-side tests, but when edged out it is not by much. So, if remaining in 2006 is not desirable (I do not think it is unsafe, just not as many features to smooth out the interface, and some additional Malware capabilities), the options are to move to a different OS (XP, Vista, Linux g), or move to a different product that does support Win2k. This is not the first time we have been trapped as a group by OS migration simply because vendors do not want t, or can't afford to, support older technologies. It is a shame as I find Win2k to be a still reliable platform, although with XP SP1/2, and beefier RAM (2Gb), I have been using mostly XP platforms since last year. I have one Win2k Pro PC I still develop on, and even now I am pondering moving it to XP, and leaving the Win2k OS use to the world of VPCs for performance and compatibility testing. I never thought that would happen so soon. The next big move is when Vista becomes so mainstream that I need to migrate to that platform. By the time M$ goes all 64 bit I hope to be in Linux-Dabo-Python World g, using VMWare for the remaining Windows apps I must still run. I have already begun my initial movements in that direction. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal? On Sep 3, 2007, at 12:59 PM, mrgmhale wrote: Re: 2006 vs 2007 (much NAV2008 that is now out), NAV2006 is a fine version to stay on. NAV2007 is a little simpler looking, until one needs to get into the inner workings to set certain options that are not as obvious to find. And, NAV2007 is supposedly a bit better at intercepting Spyware than 2006. I have used both in places where SAV Corporate is not used, and both do a fine job. The point is this: unless 2006 can be kept current with all necessary malware protection, staying with an outdated (and hence dangerous) version is not an option. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On 9/3/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But is the level of protection in 2006 the same as 2007? Isn't the issue that he already has 2006, and needs to upgrade to 2007 to remain fully protected? No, the deal is that every 1st week in September, they offer the next version of NAV for free after rebate. So, it's a matter of frugality. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
On 9/3/07, mrgmhale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never thought that would happen so soon. The next big move is when Vista becomes so mainstream that I need to migrate to that platform. By the time M$ goes all 64 bit I hope to be in Linux-Dabo-Python World g, using VMWare for the remaining Windows apps I must still run. I have already begun my initial movements in that direction. Man, you open source guys! It seems that no matter what the subject, you always seem to steer the conversation around to Free and Open Source Software. Like it's the solution to everything! Oh. -- Ted ;) Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Recommendations for Norton AntiVirus removal?
the options are to move to a different OS (XP, Vista, Linux g), or move to a different product that does support Win2k. We're settled on Win 2K for the foreseeable future. Trend Micro Officescan is a decent commercial centralized network anti-virus system that works fine on Win 2k. It has a web-install utility so you can set up the client at each workstation, or you can push installs to the workstations. It updates daily on the server and then the users are updated when they log in. It's a bit pricey, though. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
