Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DX P
Hi Ted, That would be perfect! I would really appreciate it. It is a very simple logo and should not be so complicated. Altium should enable some way to just drag and drop like ay other Windows app. Thanks again and best regards, Bill Dager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DX P There was a Bitmap converter that you could download from the forum web sight. I still have a copy of it and could e-mail it too you. Regards, Ted -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:32 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP Hi William, I can convert your logo to gerber and create a protel symbol for you from an uncompressed tif file. It would cost you $50.00. If you are interested, output your tif in as high a resolution as possible and then zip it and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike - Original Message - From: William Dager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP Hi Paul, I cannot open the web page. I keep getting the MS IE error message Cannot find server or DNS Error (the dreaded white page). Thanks. Bill -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:33 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP For the fonts question see this page: http://www.paulhutch.com/protel_pcb_fonts.htm This info applies to P99se and earlier, I'm not sure if it applies to DXP. For putting a bitmap into the PCB there are a few different bitmap to gerber converter programs out there. I can't remember where to get the programs but I'm sure someone else on the list will point you to them. Paul -Original Message- From: William Dager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:44 PM Hi all, I am trying to meet the requirements for documentation in our company which is that I must have the company logo on all PCB's, and I also need to place some non-English characters on the board and its document. When I use the alt-[number] format, the character shows correctly in the popup dialog when placing text, but shows as an entirely different and unrelated character when viewing the board. Help? Also, does anyone know how to place a graphics file on a PCB document as a bitmap, TIF, GIF or other file format? I need to put the company logo on the PCB document, and it seems I can only do it in schematic documents. Does anyone know any tricks whereby I could accomplish this? I am just a little rusty since it has been two years since I used Protel 99SE (and I only used it for 8 months did not use it to its full capabilities), now I am just starting to use DXP and it is a LOT different. Best regards, William J. Dager Senior Engineering Technician Neuronetics, Inc. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP
ill do it for free _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP Hi William, I can convert your logo to gerber and create a protel symbol for you from an uncompressed tif file. It would cost you $50.00. If you are interested, output your tif in as high a resolution as possible and then zip it and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike - Original Message - From: William Dager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP Hi Paul, I cannot open the web page. I keep getting the MS IE error message Cannot find server or DNS Error (the dreaded white page). Thanks. Bill -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:33 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DXP For the fonts question see this page: http://www.paulhutch.com/protel_pcb_fonts.htm This info applies to P99se and earlier, I'm not sure if it applies to DXP. For putting a bitmap into the PCB there are a few different bitmap to gerber converter programs out there. I can't remember where to get the programs but I'm sure someone else on the list will point you to them. Paul -Original Message- From: William Dager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:44 PM Hi all, I am trying to meet the requirements for documentation in our company which is that I must have the company logo on all PCB's, and I also need to place some non-English characters on the board and its document. When I use the alt-[number] format, the character shows correctly in the popup dialog when placing text, but shows as an entirely different and unrelated character when viewing the board. Help? Also, does anyone know how to place a graphics file on a PCB document as a bitmap, TIF, GIF or other file format? I need to put the company logo on the PCB document, and it seems I can only do it in schematic documents. Does anyone know any tricks whereby I could accomplish this? I am just a little rusty since it has been two years since I used Protel 99SE (and I only used it for 8 months did not use it to its full capabilities), now I am just starting to use DXP and it is a LOT different. Best regards, William J. Dager Senior Engineering Technician Neuronetics, Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Logo and non-English characters on PCB documents in DX P
At 02:58 PM 11/17/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a Bitmap converter that you could download from the forum web sight. I still have a copy of it and could e-mail it too you. The converter was never on the forum web site, it was on the protel-users web site on yahoogroups, in the file section. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ the file name is BMPtoPCB.zip Note that you have to be a member of the mailing list protel-users and accept a cookie in order to access the protel-users files in that space. You can join the list by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but that won't give you access, you must instead subscribe through the yahoogroups.com user interface so that you are recognised as a member when you access the site. List membership is open, but moderated in order to stop the spammers. So it can take a day or two, sometimes, to join, for the subscription to be approved. You might get a mail asking you to say the magic words, such as I'm a protel user. I highly recommend joining the list, it is a back-up for the Forum; if you have a question and the Forum is down, which happens from time to time, you can ask it there. If you haven't already joined, there will be a delay There is a large subscriber base, most of the regular writers for the Forum are members, but there is not much traffic. Plus, of course, you get access to lots of user files * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost - Board Stuffing Service that you'll like.
Adeel, You might try the following. I use them all the time, and am very happy with their quality and price. Pop's PCB assembly in Anaheim, CA. I use them all the time. The boards are stuffed, washed, and come back perfect. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leonard Gabrielson Queue Systems - Original Message - From: Adeel Malik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:00 AM Subject: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost Does someone possess the contact info of cheap but reliable PCB Component Assembly Houses in North America ?. Also I wanted to know what are the important factors that determine the Assembly cost for PCBs. Is the cost direct proportional to the number of Solder Points/ Component pads ?. If it is, then can I do a rough approximation to evaluate the Assembly Cost, provided I know the Part count, Pad count and Part variety on my board ?. Thanks, ADEEL MALIK, * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost
Mr. Malik, You may contact www.wintronics.ca for cheep and for big creation technologies. From: Adeel Malik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:00:31 +0500 Does someone possess the contact info of cheap but reliable PCB Component Assembly Houses in North America ?. Also I wanted to know what are the important factors that determine the Assembly cost for PCBs. Is the cost direct proportional to the number of Solder Points/ Component pads ?. If it is, then can I do a rough approximation to evaluate the Assembly Cost, provided I know the Part count, Pad count and Part variety on my board ?. Thanks, ADEEL MALIK, * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost
You might try: Pop's PCB assembly in Anaheim, CA. I use them all the time. The boards are stuffed, washed, and come back perfect. Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost Greg: Have you tried their services? I noticed they say prices starting at 25cents per SMT and 55 cents per TH which I find very expensive. I was curious to see what factors they had in there that would bring that price down and how you could do your quote online and accommodate the ever so many issues relating to the assembly process. Their Get A Quote Now link doesn't seem to be working. Regards, Gary Allbee Alta Industrial Automation Ltd www.aialtd.com Greg North wrote: Adeel, Try screamingcircuits.com Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components
Hi All, The Protel 99SE has a Report Generating Mechanism for BOM creation. I want an add-on utility or a process script that can separately count the number of SMD and Through-hole components. Can someone comment on it ?. Regards, ADEEL MALIK * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Boards Assembly Cost
We've used KJM (Kingston-Jones Manufacturing), www.kjmco.com, a number of times and were quite pleased with the results. They do both prototype and small-volume production. HOWEVER, I think the best thing you can do, if possible, is to find a place CLOSE to YOU. It was really nice to be able to drive to KJM get a tour, talk to the people, look over prototypes with them, etc. I could have the bare boards sent to me (from manufacturer), look them over, then drop them off (or have them picked up) the same/next day for stuffing. Adeel Malik wrote: Does someone possess the contact info of cheap but reliable PCB Component Assembly Houses in North America ?. Also I wanted to know what are the important factors that determine the Assembly cost for PCBs. Is the cost direct proportional to the number of Solder Points/ Component pads ?. If it is, then can I do a rough approximation to evaluate the Assembly Cost, provided I know the Part count, Pad count and Part variety on my board ?. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Project management
On 07:51 AM 18/11/2003, Protel Hell said: Hi all, I am having a tough time understanding the structure of data in Protel DXP. Seems they always make this stuff more complicated than it needs to be. (they being the software developers) OK there is a project, under the project there is a schematic and a PCB, there should be libraries of schematic symbols and footprints in the project, it should be easy to add and remove these symbols and footprints from the libraies. So how do you do it? Is there an ASCII file that can be editted like in ViewDraw (which seems to have a similar project concept)? Can you take an axisting project and delete what you don't want in there, add what you want, and then save it to a new project (the simplest way i found to manage ViewDraw, the auto BS is just too cumbersome)? Libraries that are part of a project are (usually) libraries that you are busy editing (adding and changing footprints and symbols). Libraries that are stable and you only need them to place footprints and symbols from can be installed in the Libraries panel. Many projects will not include any libraries on the Project panel - all the necessary libraries would be installed in the Libraries panel. Open the Libraries panel and click on the Installed tab and then click on the Libraries... button to add or remove libraries. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Utility to count SMD/Through-hole components
On 08:38 PM 18/11/2003, Adeel Malik said: Hi All, The Protel 99SE has a Report Generating Mechanism for BOM creation. I want an add-on utility or a process script that can separately count the number of SMD and Through-hole components. Can someone comment on it ?. What is a SMD component and what is thru hole? I know the easy answer, I am being more subtle than that. Is a component with surface pads but through hole (soldered) mounting a through hole or surface mount component? If you said any footprint that included a one or more holes was through hole and anything that included only surface pads was SMD the server would not be hard to develop. In fact the server to iterate over all components and classify according to the nature of the pads would not be hard, more difficult would be figuring out what the rules for classification should be. The bulk of components would be easy though as they would have either surface or multi-layer pads, the others could be classified in a mixed-tech basket and leave it to the designer to figure out what box they should go in. I write servers but I no longer write them for nix - too much other stuff occupies my time now. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
