Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Thomas or anyone out there, I am attempting to use this the first time in Windows XP. Obviously the command prompt has been disabled, I think Microsoft feels the command prompt is too dangerous for us heathen. Does anyone know exactly how to enable the command prompt in Windows XP? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Scan both sides of the unpopulated pcb and save them as a bit maps. Then use a bitmap import tool (e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/BMPtoPCB.zip , you may have to join this group to get access to this file) to import the bitmaps to *MECHANICAL LAYERS*. Then simply trace over the mechanical layers with signal traces. -Original Message- From: Graham Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:10 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Joe, Sure... just open the run box and type cmd.exe No problem. -Frank At 03:26 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Thomas or anyone out there, I am attempting to use this the first time in Windows XP. Obviously the command prompt has been disabled, I think Microsoft feels the command prompt is too dangerous for us heathen. Does anyone know exactly how to enable the command prompt in Windows XP? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Scan both sides of the unpopulated pcb and save them as a bit maps. Then use a bitmap import tool (e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/BMPtoPCB.zip , you may have to join this group to get access to this file) to import the bitmaps to *MECHANICAL LAYERS*. Then simply trace over the mechanical layers with signal traces. -Original Message- From: Graham Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:10 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Gilley Dell-Star Technologies (918) 838-1973 Phone (918) 838-8814 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dellstar.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Frank, I did that and then the box opens and tells me it is disabled. I never tried to use it before nevermind disable it. Thanks for the assist anyway. Joe - Original Message - From: Frank Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Joe, Sure... just open the run box and type cmd.exe No problem. -Frank At 03:26 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Thomas or anyone out there, I am attempting to use this the first time in Windows XP. Obviously the command prompt has been disabled, I think Microsoft feels the command prompt is too dangerous for us heathen. Does anyone know exactly how to enable the command prompt in Windows XP? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Scan both sides of the unpopulated pcb and save them as a bit maps. Then use a bitmap import tool (e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/BMPtoPCB.zip , you may have to join this group to get access to this file) to import the bitmaps to *MECHANICAL LAYERS*. Then simply trace over the mechanical layers with signal traces. -Original Message- From: Graham Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:10 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Gilley Dell-Star Technologies (918) 838-1973 Phone (918) 838-8814 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dellstar.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Joe, hm, I don't know then. We have several Dell XP boxes around here and none of them seems to have cmd disabled. Perhaps you are not an administrator or otherwise don't have rights? Only think I can think of off the top of my head. -Frank At 04:33 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Frank, I did that and then the box opens and tells me it is disabled. I never tried to use it before nevermind disable it. Thanks for the assist anyway. Joe - Original Message - From: Frank Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Joe, Sure... just open the run box and type cmd.exe No problem. -Frank At 03:26 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Thomas or anyone out there, I am attempting to use this the first time in Windows XP. Obviously the command prompt has been disabled, I think Microsoft feels the command prompt is too dangerous for us heathen. Does anyone know exactly how to enable the command prompt in Windows XP? Thanks Joe Frank Gilley Dell-Star Technologies (918) 838-1973 Phone (918) 838-8814 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dellstar.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Might just be a default security setting, since the numbers of services and related functionality that have become diabled by default have dramatically risen over the last few version upgrades (w9x-NT-2k-XP). Check Microsoft's KB or DejaNews (now Google) for command prompt in WinXP or similar search phrases. -Original Message- From: Joe Sapienza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:33 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Frank, I did that and then the box opens and tells me it is disabled. I never tried to use it before nevermind disable it. Thanks for the assist anyway. Joe - Original Message - From: Frank Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Joe, Sure... just open the run box and type cmd.exe No problem. -Frank At 03:26 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Thomas or anyone out there, I am attempting to use this the first time in Windows XP. Obviously the command prompt has been disabled, I think Microsoft feels the command prompt is too dangerous for us heathen. Does anyone know exactly how to enable the command prompt in Windows XP? Thanks Joe - Original Message - From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Scan both sides of the unpopulated pcb and save them as a bit maps. Then use a bitmap import tool (e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/BMPtoPCB.zip , you may have to join this group to get access to this file) to import the bitmaps to *MECHANICAL LAYERS*. Then simply trace over the mechanical layers with signal traces. -Original Message- From: Graham Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:10 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank Gilley Dell-Star Technologies (918) 838-1973 Phone (918) 838-8814 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dellstar.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Maybe you don't have Administrator priveledges? Your box might be set up to require Administrator priviledge to run cmd.exe, and you might not be running at that level by default. BTW, if you ever intend to use Linux, you need to get used to the idea of different priviledges. Just to install or remove a piece of software on Linux, you usually need to be the superuser (a.k.a. root user). It's annoying until you get used to it. But it sure does prevent settings from getting screwed up by programs. None of this user program edits registry and crashes before completing the edit, screwing up the registry nonsense, like on Windows. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: Joe Sapienza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Frank, I did that and then the box opens and tells me it is disabled. I never tried to use it before nevermind disable it. Thanks for the assist anyway. Joe * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Never seen this myself, but found this with a quick internet search: Check this outcarefully:) Hive: HKEY_CURRENT_USER Key: Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System Name: DisableCMD Type: REG_DWORD Value: 0 enable command prompt and batch files Value: 1 disable command prompt and batch files Value: 2 disable command prompt but allow Robert D. LaMoreaux MTS Systems Corp. Powertrain Technology Division 4622 Runway Blvd. Ann Arbor, MI 48108 734-822-9696 Fax 734-973-1103 Main Desk 734-973- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
On the Dell I have a dos shell under start: programs: accessories: command prompt. I don't know if the IT person set it up that way though. Jeff Adolphs Lake Shore Cryotronics, Inc. -Original Message- From: Frank Gilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:56 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Joe, hm, I don't know then. We have several Dell XP boxes around here and none of them seems to have cmd disabled. Perhaps you are not an administrator or otherwise don't have rights? Only think I can think of off the top of my head. -Frank At 04:33 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Frank, I did that and then the box opens and tells me it is disabled. I never tried to use it before nevermind disable it. Thanks for the assist anyway. Joe - Original Message - From: Frank Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Joe, Sure... just open the run box and type cmd.exe No problem. -Frank At 03:26 PM 6/24/2003 -0400, you wrote: Thomas or anyone out there, I am attempting to use this the first time in Windows XP. Obviously the command prompt has been disabled, I think Microsoft feels the command prompt is too dangerous for us heathen. Does anyone know exactly how to enable the command prompt in Windows XP? Thanks Joe Frank Gilley Dell-Star Technologies (918) 838-1973 Phone (918) 838-8814 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dellstar.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Robert that was it. Your email arrived as I just found it. Not sure what happened to change it in the first place. Just not something I've been using. Thanks to all of you that tried to help with this, well that was a couple of hours learning something. Funny no issue on my laptop, very interesting how some of this info is hidden away. Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Never seen this myself, but found this with a quick internet search: Check this outcarefully:) Hive: HKEY_CURRENT_USER Key: Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System Name: DisableCMD Type: REG_DWORD Value: 0 enable command prompt and batch files Value: 1 disable command prompt and batch files Value: 2 disable command prompt but allow Robert D. LaMoreaux MTS Systems Corp. Powertrain Technology Division 4622 Runway Blvd. Ann Arbor, MI 48108 734-822-9696 Fax 734-973-1103 Main Desk 734-973- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Hello all, I am interested to knowthe methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
On 03:35 AM 20/06/2003, palaniraja said: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. I am not sure what you mean by duplication. Do you mean panelising a PCB so there are multiple copies on one larger PCB panel. You mention measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet - are you trying to get the pick and place coordinates for automatically stuffing the components onto the PCB? I think I may not understand the question. Can you explain what you need in more detail. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Scan both sides of the unpopulated pcb and save them as a bit maps. Then use a bitmap import tool (e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/BMPtoPCB.zip , you may have to join this group to get access to this file) to import the bitmaps to *MECHANICAL LAYERS*. Then simply trace over the mechanical layers with signal traces. -Original Message- From: Graham Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:10 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods
Two more things: 1) don't forget to flip the bottom side scan 2) The BMPtoPCB utility only uses black and white bitmaps so you may have to mess around using something like Photoshop to get the required contrast between tracks and the substrate before converting to black and white. -Original Message- From: Thomas Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 11:18 To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Scan both sides of the unpopulated pcb and save them as a bit maps. Then use a bitmap import tool (e.g. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/BMPtoPCB.zip , you may have to join this group to get access to this file) to import the bitmaps to *MECHANICAL LAYERS*. Then simply trace over the mechanical layers with signal traces. -Original Message- From: Graham Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 10:10 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] PEDA[OT] - PCB Duplication Methods Hi Palaniraja Artnet Pro Inc in San Jose, California can produce gerber files from a photoscan of a (two-sided) board. So far I have only looked at the gerbers successfully in Camtastic, and did not find a way to import these into P99SE. But I am sure the import will not be difficult when I get to the project. They can be reached by phone at 408 954 8383 or by fax at 408 954 8380 Graham palaniraja wrote: Hello all, I am interested to know the methods available to duplicate single side and double side loaded/bare PCB boards. At present, I am doing it by manually measuring the component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet. Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut methods available for board duplication. Thanks in advance for your information. palaniraja [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *