[Proto-Scripty] Re: Observing events on dynamic content.

2009-02-25 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/2/24 david david.brill...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Why not relying on event delegation to a parent contener that will not
 be delete or modify ??

 btw, I thing the only problem is an excessive memory consuption. I did
 not say/mean memory leak !!
 There should not have more impact even.

 --
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 On 24 fév, 16:52, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I know that I need to stop observing on elements before I destroy them
 (say they are coming in via an AJAX connection).

 I know one way of handling this is to not actually attach events to
 dynamic content, but to the container and then use the bubbling
 effect.

 With that, the event handler for such a container may have several
 different paths through the code, depending upon the event and the
 element that triggered it.

 I suppose if the generic event handler was nothing more than a switch
 board, then the functions which is attached directly could remain as
 they are.

 Anyone know of anything else I should be aware of with this issue?

 Regards,

 Richard Quadling.

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I've put a container around the dynamic elements. This will have all
the event handlers attached. Most obvious really.

Thank you.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: does prototype abstract canvas usage to both IE mozilla?

2009-02-25 Thread david

HI all,

how could I miss it !!
thanks kangax.

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On 25 fév, 06:38, kangax kan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 24, 7:32 pm, greghauptmann greg.hauptm...@gmail.com wrote:

  yes, it's quite confusing - I'm just trying to determine whether I
  really need to go Java Applet/JavaFX or not (versus javascript)... :(

 Canvas element is supported by quite a lot of modern browsers. You
 don't need to normalize anything. To simulate it in IE, you would use
 `excanvas.js` by Google. It works quite well.

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How do I sort a set of divs slowly.

2009-02-25 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/2/24 david david.brill...@gmail.com:

 Hi richard,

 I've done something like that, but very different :))

 Here is my SIMPLE solution:

 - first clone the desired tab (let's call him cloneTab) and attach
 cloned element to parent, and clonePosition of the cloned tab from the
 creator tab
 - next detach the creator tab, and replace it with an empty element
 with the same dimension (let's call it emptyTab)
  You should also append an empty element as first child of the
 contener (let's call him emptyFirstTab)
 - Next, motion, Effect.Parallel (
                        - emptyTab to width=0
                        - emptyFirstTab from width=0 to the desired
 width
                        - cloneTab should move to its final position
                       )
  - Next, detach the emptyTab and the emptyFirstTab, and reattach as
 the first child of the contener the cloneTab.

 You don't see any flickering if all attach/detach are grouped in the
 code.

 --
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 On 24 fév, 17:47, Richard Quadling rquadl...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I've got a set of spans ...

 div class=tabHs
  span id=tabH_UserAdmin class=tabHEUser Administration/span
  span id=tabH_ReportAdmin class=tabHEReport Administration/span
  span id=tabH_ReportGenerator class=tabHE tabHAGenerate Report/span
 /div

 They are styled to look like tabs. There is CSS dealing with hovering,
 active/inactive, enabled/disabled.

 I've got an onClick handler on the class of tabHs (so I can have
 multiple tab controls).

 function tabHeadClick(ev){
         console.group('tabHeadClick(', arguments, ')');

         var el = ('click' === ev.type) ? ev.element() : ev;

         // Don't process disabled tabs.
         if (false == el.hasClassName('tabHD')){
                 // Update the tab header.
                 el
                         .addClassName('tabHA')
                         .siblings()
                         .without(el)
                         .invoke('removeClassName', 'tabHA');

                 // Update the tab sheets.
                 var a_IdParts = el.id.split('_');
                 var o_TabSheet = $('tabS_' + a_IdParts[1]);

                 // Upda the required tab sheet if it exists and it is not 
 currently active.
                 if (o_TabSheet  !o_TabSheet.hasClassName('tabSA')){
                         // Make all other tabSheets inactive
                         el
                                 .up('.tabC')
                                 .down('.tabSs')
                                 .childElements()
                                 .without(o_TabSheet)
                                 .invoke('addClassName', 'tabSI')
                                 .invoke('removeClassName', 'tabSA');

                         // Make this tabSheet active.
                         sizeElements(
                                 o_TabSheet
                                         .addClassName('tabSA')
                                         .removeClassName('tabSI')
                         );
                 }
         }

         console.groupEnd();

 }

 What I want to do is, when they click a span is to slide that
 o_TabSheet to the top of the list.

 The user isn't dragging the tab, I just want the active tab to be the
 first in the list. A nice sliding effect would be what I would like to
 see, but I have no idea at all how to do such a thing.

 Regards,

 Richard.

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That's a bit beyond me at the moment. I think the sortable
functionality is what I am looking for. The Effect.Morph demo also
looks promising.

I think I need to determine the current width's and left's of my
tabs and then morph them all to new positions, taking into account
the widths.

I'd like to have the active tab slide in front, so I assume some
z-index stuff is also required.

I think.




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[Proto-Scripty] Re: When?

2009-02-25 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/2/25 Lox gecka.comp...@gmail.com:


 Is there some particular development you are waiting for?

 What does more modern means? Well Peppy or Sizzle means that to me

 Also I'll be happy to have it optimized in size and speed.
 (Scriptaculous is much more concerned by the size matter: the number
 of Ko to load to have a sliding effect is impressing! )
 Some other things missed me in my last javascript project but sorry I
 can't remember exactly what (shame on me) but I promise to post them
 here next time I notice them.

 Opensource communities need something to eat quite often! And I, as
 others, are getting more and more hungry!
 See how Ubuntu is successful with their 6 months release cycle! Jquery
 has more updates and so a growing community...

 Concerning the well know smashingmagazine I consider a shame no being
 listed in the 50 Useful JavaScript Tools whereas Jquery UI is...

 Anyway I love how prototype is, and how it works. Using it is so
 logical to me that I don't have to look a the doc very often. Great
 works devs!

 Regards

 (excuse my poor english)
 


As I see things, prototype.js is a background toolkit. Unless there
are more inconsistencies found amongst the browsers or there are some
radically new ways of processing CSS, getting hold of elements,
processing arrays/hashes, etc., then prototype is becoming the mature
and stable platform for standardised/cross platform javascript
development.

Scripty (for example), which uses prototype is always going to expand
as new effects or user orientated functionality becomes available.

I think of prototype as a runtime library. You need it to be small,
efficient and stable. This is so I, as a developer, can take it, use
it in knowledge that if it works today, it will work tomorrow.

Upgrading the lowest level libraries in a project nearly always breaks
SOMETHING (not always major, but ...)

Maybe one reason for JQuery and others like it having such a frequent
release schedule is simply because they are not mature and stable
enough. Yet.

Keeping backend and frontend functionality separate is a great way to
go. If prototype started handling user interaction (rather than just
DOM/AJAX interaction), then it would bloat VERY quickly.

Richard.


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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Detecting an empty [] as a parameter to a function.

2009-02-25 Thread kangax

On Feb 25, 3:27 am, SWilk wilkola...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 It's not that Richard does want to use it. It's that the PHP
 json_encode() function produces inconsistent output for empty arrays.

 If you do
 json_encode(array('key' = 'value');
 you will get:
 { key: value };

And I assume that `json_encode(array('a', 'b', 'c'))` returns `[a,
b, c]`?

[...]

 I think in most cases:
 var _a=[];
 _a = (Object.isArray(_a)  !_a.length) ? {} : _a;
 var hash = $H(_a);

That should work, but wouldn't you want to differentiate between these
broken arrays (which should really be empty objects) and the actual
empty arrays (returned from json)?

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: How to use TAB key with inplaceEditor ? :(

2009-02-25 Thread kreatik

no ? :(

On 21 fév, 13:05, kreatik krea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi ;-)

 I think we have a DIV element containing another element (eg SPAN) to
 be editable element :

 div class=parentForFocus tabindex=n
       span class=editablemy data editable/span
 /div

 When parentForFocus receive focus, I' have a listenner for RETURNkey,
 if pressed call setEnterEditMode(); (for this span.editable child)

 It's good solution work, but IE randomly loses focus :(

 I'm sory for my anglish...

 On Feb 20, 12:47 pm, KreatiK' krea...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all J

  It's possible to use the TAB and Escape keys with InplaceEditor ? (like
  extJS)

  Have a good day !
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[Proto-Scripty] newbie scriptaculous query

2009-02-25 Thread Bhudda Ben

I am newbie to AJAX and scriptaculous (I know and use php  js) with
what I hope is easy question.  I am building a new homepage for my
company with the idea that a basic shell of links and other widgets is
always in browser, but center section changes to provide other
commonly used company widgets.  I have not yet started to play with
center section - the main use of AJAX - but, and here is problem:

Company desires  automatically updating time widget at bottom of page
- this feature was already in use implemented in scriptaculous at our
London office; this is why I am starting with scriptaculous rather
than some other AJAX implementation.  I stole the following code:

Head section:
script src=required/scriptaculous/lib/prototype.js type=text/
javascript/script
script type=text/javascript
new Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater('clock', 'required/clock/gettime.php',
{asynchronous:true, frequency:60});
/script

And of course, brought all the scriptacous code over to required/lib.

At bottom of page London original was:

div id=clock align=center?php include (required/clock/
gettime.php); ?/div

I used that and also tried:

span id=clock
?php
//include clock footer
include (required/clock/gettime.php);
?
/span

(since I had the whole in table, thought I might need to go to span
instead of div)

That's it - works in London, does not work in NY for me and London guy
who did original long gone.

The only other difference is London site runs on Windows; mine runs on
Linux - is that a prob?

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[Proto-Scripty] How to resize window without screen flickering

2009-02-25 Thread Mel

I have a JSP page whereby I am displaying a table that contains rows
of each data record.  Each record has an icon at the beginning of each
row that when the user clicks that icon a function that I created
using the Ajax.Updater gets the data and populates another JSP page
that displays the details of that row item that I am inserting via a
DIV ... tag in the initial JSP and that is working great.

However, the user can click another row's icon in the initial JSP page
and the window keeps growing even though it is only displaying the
details of the next item.  I need a way to resize the window back to
where it was prior to displaying the details of that next row.  I
attempted to resize the window before running the Ajax.Updater for the
next record but when I did that the window flickers.  I would like to
be able to click another icon on that same page and just display the
next record's details without having the entire window flicker.

Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.  Here is my
function:

function getVendorInfo(vNum) {
window.resizeBy(0, -$('vendorInfoResults').offsetHeight);
var url = '/common/Lookup.action';

new Ajax.Updater('vendorInfoResults', url,
{method: 'get',
parameters: {vendorInfo: '', vendorNum: vNum},
onComplete: function() {
window.resizeBy(0, 
$('vendorInfoResults').offsetHeight);
}
});
}

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Strategies for replacing Elements in realtime

2009-02-25 Thread Justin

I would reccomend using the dom to be *safe*. For instance, in a
select box if you just try to add option tags into the select
container IE will not detect the new elements. you should use the
javascript add option methods.

In general both methods work, but i find using JS is sometimes safer.

I guess in general if its really small nothing is easier and faster
than assigning what you want to an elements.innerHTML. and in more
complex or sensitive cases it can depend.

On Feb 24, 1:48 pm, Lee Jenkins l...@datatrakpos.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Pretty new to javascript and prototype.  Been developing windows software for
 years though.

 At any rate, I have a question and if it's too javascript related and 
 considered
 OT, please let me know and/or direct me to an appropriate group for 
 discussion.

 Assume that I have DIV with several elements such as TextBox, Combo Box, etc 
 and
 I want to update one specific widget within the DIV, would you recommend
 updating the widget through the DOM or replacing it's markup?  Either way, the
 data would be coming in the response of an AJAX request.  Seems to me that if 
 I
 wanted to juse replace it's markup, I would have to site the elements within
 DIV's themselves.

 If the DIV has several controls on it, I'd prefer not to have to re-display 
 the
 entire contents with an innerHTML call, but I am unsure of the best way to
 update a single widget contained within another element like a DIV.

 Thanks for advise,

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: newbie scriptaculous query

2009-02-25 Thread Justin

use firebug, and check the response from the server.
(make sure error reporting is on)
if the return from the ajax query is an error... then its server side.

I suspect its a php related time error, you should check those
scripts.

NOW if its a local javascript error, (not a bad return from the
server) it may be that you have not initalized the control correctly
does this help?

On Feb 25, 10:10 am, Bhudda Ben benjamin.rud...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am newbie to AJAX and scriptaculous (I know and use php  js) with
 what I hope is easy question.  I am building a new homepage for my
 company with the idea that a basic shell of links and other widgets is
 always in browser, but center section changes to provide other
 commonly used company widgets.  I have not yet started to play with
 center section - the main use of AJAX - but, and here is problem:

 Company desires  automatically updating time widget at bottom of page
 - this feature was already in use implemented in scriptaculous at our
 London office; this is why I am starting with scriptaculous rather
 than some other AJAX implementation.  I stole the following code:

 Head section:
 script src=required/scriptaculous/lib/prototype.js type=text/
 javascript/script
 script type=text/javascript
     new Ajax.PeriodicalUpdater('clock', 'required/clock/gettime.php',
 {asynchronous:true, frequency:60});
 /script

 And of course, brought all the scriptacous code over to required/lib.

 At bottom of page London original was:

 div id=clock align=center?php include (required/clock/
 gettime.php); ?/div

 I used that and also tried:

 span id=clock
                         ?php
             //include clock footer
             include (required/clock/gettime.php);
             ?
             /span

 (since I had the whole in table, thought I might need to go to span
 instead of div)

 That's it - works in London, does not work in NY for me and London guy
 who did original long gone.

 The only other difference is London site runs on Windows; mine runs on
 Linux - is that a prob?
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[Proto-Scripty] Drag and Drop with conditional revert

2009-02-25 Thread ColinFine

I've been struggling to achieve something with drag and drop. I've
found a solution, but I don't think it's very elegant, and I was
wondering if anybody has a better solution.

I'm dragging an object from one box to another. If it is a suitable
dropsite, it fires off an Ajax request to update the database and
several parts of the display (including the dropsite).  But it is
possible that the operation will not be permitted, in which case the
Ajax returns a failure code and a message, and the object hasn't been
moved in the database.

So far so good. But I want the drag to revert not only if the user
doesn't find a suitable dropsite, but also if the Ajax operation
returns failure. On the other hand, if the Ajax operation succeeds, I
don't want it to revert. (It will only be for a moment before the box
is redrawn, but it doesn't look good).

The workround I've implemented is to hide the element before issuing
the Ajax call, and show it again in the failure callback, but not in
the success one; so the user won't see it reverting in the latter
case. But it means the object you've moved disappears for a moment,
which is not very good.

Is there a better solution? I wondered if there was a way to use a
function in the 'revert' option of the Draggable, or to use the onEnd
of the Draggable or onDrop of the Droppable. But none of these have
access to the Draggable, only to the dragged element, so I would have
to write my own revert. In any case, there doesn't seem to be a
callable default 'revert' function in Draggable: I would expect there
to be one, so that you can provide a callback which does some other
processing and then calls the default.

I see that there was a discussion on similar lines last September, but
the recommendation there seemed to be to do the checking client-side.
That is possible, but would mean that much more data would need to be
downloaded, so I prefer to do it on the server.

Any suggestions?



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[Proto-Scripty] Re: When?

2009-02-25 Thread Lox


 [...] then prototype is becoming the mature
 and stable platform for standardised/cross platform javascript
 development.

I understand that, and quite second that, but Peppy or Sizzle are much
more faster at selecting elements by css selector witch, these days
where javascript apps a getting bigger, is a must have.

Someone talked about a lot of patches floating around. What are they?
Where are they?

To me prototype can be optimized without changing its functionalities.
I recently had a case where, in a well formed dom, it didn't find
something like '#mydiv span.class' witch was anoying. I remember I had
to find a workaround and also that Peppy found it
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Replace $$ function

2009-02-25 Thread Lox

Please, does anyone can guide me to integrate sizzle or peppy to
prototype?

On 13 jan, 13:13, Lox laurent.dincl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I want to integrate peppy (orsizzle) in prototype to replace $$()
 function.

 Can I safely replace the whole Selector class?

 Regards
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: When?

2009-02-25 Thread Lox


 Scripty (for example), which uses prototype is always going to expand
 as new effects or user orientated functionality becomes available.

Is Scripty Scriptaculous ?
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[Proto-Scripty] Re: When?

2009-02-25 Thread kangax

On Feb 25, 4:28 pm, Lox gecka.comp...@gmail.com wrote:
  [...] then prototype is becoming the mature
  and stable platform for standardised/cross platform javascript
  development.

 I understand that, and quite second that, but Peppy or Sizzle are much
 more faster at selecting elements by css selector witch, these days
 where javascript apps a getting bigger, is a must have.

 Someone talked about a lot of patches floating around. What are they?
 Where are they?

Which patches?


 To me prototype can be optimized without changing its functionalities.

Optimized how? The bug tracker is public and anyone is free to suggest
optimizations, patches, tests, etc.

 I recently had a case where, in a well formed dom, it didn't find
 something like '#mydiv span.class' witch was anoying. I remember I had
 to find a workaround and also that Peppy found it

Submitting bug is a good way to let developers know about it.
Otherwise, the chances of it being found and fixed are much lower, as
you can probably guess. In which browser did that query not work?

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[Proto-Scripty] Re: When?

2009-02-25 Thread Richard Quadling

2009/2/25 Lox gecka.comp...@gmail.com:


 Scripty (for example), which uses prototype is always going to expand
 as new effects or user orientated functionality becomes available.

 Is Scripty Scriptaculous ?

Yes. Sorry for the abbrev.

 




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[Proto-Scripty] Re: Replace $$ function

2009-02-25 Thread Lox

I tried too .

On 26 fév, 12:31, Tobie Langel tobie.lan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'll be working on Sizzle implementation over the next weeks. And no,
 it isn't as simple as replacing the whole Selector class. :(

 Best,

 Tobie

 On Feb 25, 10:30 pm, Lox gecka.comp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Please, does anyone can guide me to integrate sizzle or peppy to
  prototype?

  On 13 jan, 13:13, Lox laurent.dincl...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hello,

   I want to integrate peppy (orsizzle) in prototype to replace $$()
   function.

   Can I safely replace the whole Selector class?

   Regards
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