Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
i've a Genesi EfikaMX based on armv7-a . I use to run CRUX and Debian both hardfloating point distro (ARMHF). I'd like to give a try with reworked uQLX sources if available. regards, Nico On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 12:09:28 -0700 ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com wrote: Send Ql-Users mailing list submissions to ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:51:44 +0200 From: The Dents thede...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation Message-ID: 501e9690.8080...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tobias has done a great job. I can confirm that uqlx is working on the RPi. I ran Dilwyn's Unzip541_bas program and could use resulting unzip executable. Jon. Am 01.08.2012 21:41, schrieb Dilwyn Jones: While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. I'm very sure he doesn't ;) A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. Right. If anyone else wants to have a go, give me a shout, please. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Yep. I want to make sure it's at least usable ;) Regards, Tobias Great news! Dilwyn Jones -- acrux acrux...@libero.it ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
Tobias has done a great job. I can confirm that uqlx is working on the RPi. I ran Dilwyn's Unzip541_bas program and could use resulting unzip executable. Jon. Am 01.08.2012 21:41, schrieb Dilwyn Jones: While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. I'm very sure he doesn't ;) A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. Right. If anyone else wants to have a go, give me a shout, please. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Yep. I want to make sure it's at least usable ;) Regards, Tobias Great news! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
Am 01.08.2012 um 13:30 schrieb Norman Dunbar: On 01/08/12 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. I'm very sure he doesn't ;) A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. Right. If anyone else wants to have a go, give me a shout, please. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Yep. I want to make sure it's at least usable ;) Regards, Tobias Dear Tobias, Please could you also release the changes you have made to the source as well. Jojn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - Planet Ink Club is a great way to save money and help the environment. Join today (http://www.planetinkclub.com) This message has been scanned by Supanet for viruses and dangerous content using ClamAV and SpamAssassin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
Dear Tobias, Please could you also release the changes you have made to the source as well. Jojn Sure will. I'm just waiting whether anything significant comes up and needs fixing. BTW: Is Richard Zidlicky (The original author) still on the list? I would like to ask his permission (or, at least, non-objection) to put up the sources to Google Code (They are no longer available from SourceForge). Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
I’m not sure if this has been mentioned here before, so sorry if it is duplication. I happened to see on Computeractive’s website a little review and link to download a RaspberryPi emulator for Windows desktop: url:http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ca/download-review/2193699/download-raspberry-pi-emulation-for-windows While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
On 01/08/12 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
Am 01.08.2012 um 13:30 schrieb Norman Dunbar: On 01/08/12 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. I'm very sure he doesn't ;) A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. Right. If anyone else wants to have a go, give me a shout, please. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Yep. I want to make sure it's at least usable ;) Regards, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. I'm very sure he doesn't ;) A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. Right. If anyone else wants to have a go, give me a shout, please. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Yep. I want to make sure it's at least usable ;) Regards, Tobias Great news! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi emulation
Am 01.08.2012 19:12, schrieb Tobias Fröschle: Am 01.08.2012 um 13:30 schrieb Norman Dunbar: On 01/08/12 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote: While an emulator of the cheap little RPi might seem overkill, it might be of interest to someone wanting to learn about the system, or possibly even to help anyone trying to port uQLx to RPi for example. I'm sure Tobias won't mind (at least, I hope not!) but uqlx is already running on the Pi. Emulated and on real hardware. I'm very sure he doesn't ;) A few of us who mentioned having/getting a Pi on this list, have been volunteered to do some testing. Right. If anyone else wants to have a go, give me a shout, please. When it's fully ready, Tobias will be releasing it into the wild! Yep. I want to make sure it's at least usable ;) Regards, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I'd like to give it a go please Tobias. It looks like rain at the weekend so I should have time to try it out a bit on my new Rpi. Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
John Alexander wrote: I've not missed the point at all, I'm working on a curriculum or at least an ordered list of things for kids to do, The members of list are educated folks it would be nice to have input from them on such things. BTW was told by a bloke from Farnell that the boards have had thee wrong component put in (an RJ45 connector without magnetics rather than with ...DOH!!) more delays Here's the juice: http://www.raspberrypi.org/ Here's the stuff we've been doing again: http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/2012/03/04/piduino-expansion-for-the-raspberrypi-8/ http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/2012/03/04/review-of-february-2012-meeting-11/ http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/mopi-a-prototype-board-for-raspberrypi/ While I'm interested in the RaspberryPi I have very little knowledge of either Linux or the terminology used when it comes to this device and peripherals. Would it be possible to explain briefly what they are, how they benefit the RPi and how they fit into the scheme of things? Also, what implications do they have for those in the QL community who'd like to make a miniature QL with it, for example? I've read the three postings and think I get at least the gist of it, but would be helpful to have a simplified explanation, perhaps. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Morning all, eRant warning . On 06/03/12 22:15, Martin Wheatley wrote: There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse No, no, no, no and again, no! Next time you are in WH Smiths, don't stand in front of the magazine rack reading the damned things, either buy one and get out of the way or just get out of the way. It's a shop - you buy stuff - not a library - you borrow stuff. eRant over! ;-) I don't mind people having a quick look through - that's what I do to see if an article justifies the cost - but I object to people getting a free read and then leaving a second hand magazine for someone else to pay full price for. It's bloody dishonest in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it's almost like theft. I hate going in to WH Smiths to get a comic (Linux, Electronics, Science etc) because I can't get near the racks for a crowd of cheap skates reading the magazines in the aisles. Bloody irritating. My wife used to work in WH Smiths on a Saturday and her job was to wander around the store telling people to stop reading the magazines and either buy one or foff! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Hi Norman, did she actually say to pseudo customers f off?:) Editor QUANTA The QL Users And Tinkerers Association http://www.QUANTA.org.uk On 7 Mar 2012, at 10:38, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning all, eRant warning . On 06/03/12 22:15, Martin Wheatley wrote: There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse No, no, no, no and again, no! Next time you are in WH Smiths, don't stand in front of the magazine rack reading the damned things, either buy one and get out of the way or just get out of the way. It's a shop - you buy stuff - not a library - you borrow stuff. eRant over! ;-) I don't mind people having a quick look through - that's what I do to see if an article justifies the cost - but I object to people getting a free read and then leaving a second hand magazine for someone else to pay full price for. It's bloody dishonest in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it's almost like theft. I hate going in to WH Smiths to get a comic (Linux, Electronics, Science etc) because I can't get near the racks for a crowd of cheap skates reading the magazines in the aisles. Bloody irritating. My wife used to work in WH Smiths on a Saturday and her job was to wander around the store telling people to stop reading the magazines and either buy one or foff! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
__ From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 10:38 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi Morning all, eRant warning . On 06/03/12 22:15, Martin Wheatley wrote: There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse No, no, no, no and again, no! Next time you are in WH Smiths, don't stand in front of the magazine rack reading the damned things, either buy one and get out of the way or just get out of the way. It's a shop - you buy stuff - not a library - you borrow stuff. eRant over! ;-) I don't mind people having a quick look through - that's what I do to see if an article justifies the cost - but I object to people getting a free read and then leaving a second hand magazine for someone else to pay full price for. It's bloody dishonest in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it's almost like theft. I hate going in to WH Smiths to get a comic (Linux, Electronics, Science etc) because I can't get near the racks for a crowd of cheap skates reading the magazines in the aisles. Bloody irritating. My wife used to work in WH Smiths on a Saturday and her job was to wander around the store telling people to stop reading the magazines and either buy one or foff! snip Durham WH Smiths in the market place used to be terrible for that, on a Saturday morning there would be rows of people reading the magazines(probably while their other half was doing the shopping) Very annoying, I don't buy magazines at all now apart from the odd mini or classic car one. I remember my mate stating loudly It's like a BLOODY library in here, cheapskates! and he got some right mucky glares. Pete ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
At 10:38 07/03/2012, you wrote: Morning all, eRant warning . On 06/03/12 22:15, Martin Wheatley wrote: There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse No, no, no, no and again, no! Next time you are in WH Smiths, don't stand in front of the magazine rack reading the damned things, either buy one and get out of the way or just get out of the way. It's a shop - you buy stuff - not a library - you borrow stuff. eRant over! ;-) I don't mind people having a quick look through - that's what I do to see if an article justifies the cost - but I object to people getting a free read and then leaving a second hand magazine for someone else to pay full price for. It's bloody dishonest in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it's almost like theft. I was just making a flippant comment as the mag is quite expensive and people may not be interested in the rest (QL content - zero!) martinw ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 07/03/12 10:44, Lee Privett wrote: Hi Norman, did she actually say to pseudo customers f off?:) I think that may have been a tad unprofessional. I do know that it's what she wanted to tell them though! She was also one of the staff who had to find the magazines mis-replaced in the racks after the readers had decided not to purchase. (As noted in Dilwyn's dRant!) Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 07/03/2012 10:38, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning all, eRant warning . On 06/03/12 22:15, Martin Wheatley wrote: There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse No, no, no, no and again, no! Next time you are in WH Smiths, don't stand in front of the magazine rack reading the damned things, either buy one and get out of the way or just get out of the way. It's a shop - you buy stuff - not a library - you borrow stuff. eRant over! ;-) I don't mind people having a quick look through - that's what I do to see if an article justifies the cost - but I object to people getting a free read and then leaving a second hand magazine for someone else to pay full price for. It's bloody dishonest in my opinion. I'd go so far as to say that it's almost like theft. I hate going in to WH Smiths to get a comic (Linux, Electronics, Science etc) because I can't get near the racks for a crowd of cheap skates reading the magazines in the aisles. Bloody irritating. My wife used to work in WH Smiths on a Saturday and her job was to wander around the store telling people to stop reading the magazines and either buy one or foff! Cheers, Norm. I doubt Mrs Dunbar wotks in the Berwick branch, but I did see a bloke get an earfull from a lady assistant for browsing a Classic Motorcycle magazine, actualy he was more than browsing he was taking written notes (;-) All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 06/03/2012 22:41, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 4f55c062.80...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Morning Malcolm, I have now registered with both Farnell and RS, which was all very easy to do. The former are offering a 'free' special edition Rpi T-Shirt, too ... :-) I've seen those - element 14 I think. Is it me, or would the t-shirts have more appeal if they said Make my day - blow a raspberry! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 14:51 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi On 06/03/2012 22:41, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 4f55c062.80...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Morning Malcolm, I have now registered with both Farnell and RS, which was all very easy to do. The former are offering a 'free' special edition Rpi T-Shirt, too ... :-) I've seen those - element 14 I think. Is it me, or would the t-shirts have more appeal if they said Make my day - blow a raspberry! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services Hehe, reminds me of the phantom raspberry blower sketches on the two ronnies :) Peter. QL Forum ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Is it me, or would the t-shirts have more appeal if they said Make my day - blow a raspberry! -- Rich Mellor Hehe, reminds me of the phantom raspberry blower sketches on the two ronnies :) Peter. Or perhaps 'blow a raspberry' means Norman's been putting the wrong resistor values on his electronics again ;-) Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Now then Dilwyn, Or perhaps 'blow a raspberry' means Norman's been putting the wrong resistor values on his electronics again ;-) Well, at least I used too high a value rather than too low. Nothing - as far as I can tell - fizzled in a raspberry like manner, and died. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] RaspberryPi Power Source
Back on topic, Does anyone know what powers the Raspberry Pi? as I've not heard anything mention the words 'Power Adaptor' Neil Btw, Mine's coming end March or there about, with the Freebee T-Shirt. *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01234-265380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi Power Source
On 07/03/12 15:32, Neil Riley wrote: Back on topic, Does anyone know what powers the Raspberry Pi? as I've not heard anything mention the words 'Power Adaptor' Neil Btw, Mine's coming end March or there about, with the Freebee T-Shirt. The power supply is any 5V 700mA mini usb phone charger. The 700 mA assumes high power attachments etc connected to the Pi. You can use a full sized usb jobby and a usb-mini adaptor. It's all on the web site. You supply a USB keyboard, USB mouse, Mini-USB power supply and a TV of HDMI TV/Monitor. HTH Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
I've no idea what the items you mention are John. Perhaps noting to do with QL scene. Bryan H On 05/03/2012 04:27, John Alexander wrote: Arduino clone for I/O expansion called a Piduino and a MoPi ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
There is a very good article about Raspberry Pi in the new edition of PC Pro Next time you are in W H Smith have a browse martinw ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
In message 4f55c062.80...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Morning Malcolm, I have now registered with both Farnell and RS, which was all very easy to do. The former are offering a 'free' special edition Rpi T-Shirt, too ... :-) I've seen those - element 14 I think. OK ... with Linux it all seems an endless series of 'flavours' of Linux. It may look that way but Linux, or more accurately GNU/Linux is the kernel, the actual OS if you like. That's pretty much standard across all distros. A few distros do modify the kernel slightly to match their needs, but usually it's in non-important areas. The distro itself comes in many flavours, including the applications supplied, the GUI in use - KDE, Gnome, Gnome3, etc. This doesn't mean that if you use Linux Mint with Gnome that your applications won't run on OpenSuse with KDE - they will. Indeed ... logical, of course. OK ... you get some 'basic' stuff, and then post-install a lot of other potentially more useful stuff. Sort of. With Windows you install everything (ie, the OS) and then start buying applications, or downloading Firefox, Chrome, whatever from many different places. How secure these places are, you have no idea. With Linux, everything is on the DVD initially, and part of the installation set you up with repositories and it is from these that you get your new stuff, updates, patches and so on. These repositories are secure in that they use security signatures and certificates to prove their validity. Yes ... all of the Apps, again ... :-) Ah ... yes ... fault tracing in electronics is like de-bugging in software ... a potential long and tortuous road. It came to me this AM when I was in bed what I'd done wrong. I need to check later to see if my subconscious was right. My two timing resitors needed to be around 1K and 144K to go with the 100nF capacitor. I have a funny feeling that I used a 980K instead of 144K - major failure there for around 144k! ;-) It would explain why your LED is staying on ... the time period will not be much different ... :-( Umm ... you may say that a lot of hardware and software has been sold to Schools ... :-) ... but then, we are not cynical; are we? Most of our schools are sponsored by Microsoft. As is most of government. We are doomed to repeat the errors of our predecessors if we never learn. And yes, we are cynical, with good reason I'm afraid! ;-) Yes, but we are 'experienced' ... :-) Hope you get your Pi soon. Yes, it can only get more interesting . -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Morning Malcolm, I thought that you would one the first 'Rpi owners ... :-) No, I'm afraid not. There are 10,000 lucky owners but I'm not one of them. I need my sleep too much to be setting alarms to get up at 05:45! I have not heard of Fedora Linux ... though I guess it not a hat? Close, very close. Red Hat is, if you like, the parent company, They produce Red Hat Enterprise Linux but used to produce a community version called Red Hat Linux. They stick to RHEL these days and are (or are about to be) the first open source company to break the $1 billion income mark. They charge for support and give the product away for free. Fedora is the community version - Red Hat Linux as was. New stuff usually hits Fedora first before it rolls out in RHEL. Both are, indeed, hat related! Of course, it you ned or want an enterprise level Linux for free, you simply get Centos or Scientific Linux which are RHEL with the Red Hat badges removed. It's all legal under the terms of the license. Development tools ... yes, but what actual software or 'apps' are already around to make it immediately usable? Too much to mention. When you install a Linux distro you get tens of thousands of apps thrown in for free and there are many more that may not be included in the distro, but are available elsewhere. CAD tools, compilers for just about every language under the sun, development environments, games, science stuff, astronomy, games, deocumentation tools, DVD players, CD players, MP3, Video editing, sound recording editing, text editors, whole office suites, - everything. Compare with Windows and Minsweeper or Solitare! ;-) I specialised in control and electronics and all the 'new technology' stuff, so was always being creative. I put together a 555 timer in astable mode this weekend on a breadboard looking for a square wave generator. I wanted to use it to switch on another circuit, then off again at regular intervals. How hard could it be? I got an always on LED! Sigh! It's far simpler with Arduino! Schools have mirrored and followed almost exactly all of the previous mistakes that industry first followed. Have they mirrored or have they been pushed in that direction by politicians and other do-gooders with an agenda? Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Whilst I'm not denigrating it, all this publicity of development boards etc. is missing the concept of the Rpi, which is to just connect the necessary ancillaries and use it for program development by youngsters, not circuit design. They're already using SCRATCH I understand which is just for making things work on the screen by complex sprites; but it does get them planning things in detail, even if only a sort of film storyboard. Bryan H On 05/03/2012 04:27, John Alexander wrote: My RaspberryPi is due the 12th according to Farnell. Fedora is the community edition as it were where the technology that RedHat uses gets tested first! I've already got a few bits of hardware ready an Arduino clone for I/O expansion called a Piduino and a MoPi which is an out and out dev board for the RaspberryPi http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=u5c1Dfaf57g http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/mopi-a-prototype-board-for-raspberrypi/ Take alook at the video shown at the Last Shropshire Linux user Group (SLUG) on PCB manufacture http://shropshirelug.wordpress.com/2012/03/04/review-of-february-2012-meeting-11/ John A --- On Mon, 5/3/12, Norman Dunbarnor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: From: Norman Dunbarnor...@dunbar-it.co.uk Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Monday, 5 March, 2012, 11:59 Morning Malcolm, I thought that you would one the first 'Rpi owners ... :-) No, I'm afraid not. There are 10,000 lucky owners but I'm not one of them. I need my sleep too much to be setting alarms to get up at 05:45! I have not heard of Fedora Linux ... though I guess it not a hat? Close, very close. Red Hat is, if you like, the parent company, They produce Red Hat Enterprise Linux but used to produce a community version called Red Hat Linux. They stick to RHEL these days and are (or are about to be) the first open source company to break the $1 billion income mark. They charge for support and give the product away for free. Fedora is the community version - Red Hat Linux as was. New stuff usually hits Fedora first before it rolls out in RHEL. Both are, indeed, hat related! Of course, it you ned or want an enterprise level Linux for free, you simply get Centos or Scientific Linux which are RHEL with the Red Hat badges removed. It's all legal under the terms of the license. Development tools ... yes, but what actual software or 'apps' are already around to make it immediately usable? Too much to mention. When you install a Linux distro you get tens of thousands of apps thrown in for free and there are many more that may not be included in the distro, but are available elsewhere. CAD tools, compilers for just about every language under the sun, development environments, games, science stuff, astronomy, games, deocumentation tools, DVD players, CD players, MP3, Video editing, sound recording editing, text editors, whole office suites, - everything. Compare with Windows and Minsweeper or Solitare! ;-) I specialised in control and electronics and all the 'new technology' stuff, so was always being creative. I put together a 555 timer in astable mode this weekend on a breadboard looking for a square wave generator. I wanted to use it to switch on another circuit, then off again at regular intervals. How hard could it be? I got an always on LED! Sigh! It's far simpler with Arduino! Schools have mirrored and followed almost exactly all of the previous mistakes that industry first followed. Have they mirrored or have they been pushed in that direction by politicians and other do-gooders with an agenda? Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
In message 4f54aab4.9050...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Morning Malcolm, I thought that you would one the first 'Rpi owners ... :-) No, I'm afraid not. There are 10,000 lucky owners but I'm not one of them. I need my sleep too much to be setting alarms to get up at 05:45! I have now registered with both Farnell and RS, which was all very easy to do. The former are offering a 'free' special edition Rpi T-Shirt, too ... :-) I have not heard of Fedora Linux ... though I guess it not a hat? Close, very close. Red Hat is, if you like, the parent company, They produce Red Hat Enterprise Linux but used to produce a community version called Red Hat Linux. They stick to RHEL these days and are (or are about to be) the first open source company to break the $1 billion income mark. They charge for support and give the product away for free. Fedora is the community version - Red Hat Linux as was. New stuff usually hits Fedora first before it rolls out in RHEL. Both are, indeed, hat related! Of course, it you ned or want an enterprise level Linux for free, you simply get Centos or Scientific Linux which are RHEL with the Red Hat badges removed. It's all legal under the terms of the license. OK ... with Linux it all seems an endless series of 'flavours' of Linux. Development tools ... yes, but what actual software or 'apps' are already around to make it immediately usable? Too much to mention. When you install a Linux distro you get tens of thousands of apps thrown in for free and there are many more that may not be included in the distro, but are available elsewhere. CAD tools, compilers for just about every language under the sun, development environments, games, science stuff, astronomy, games, deocumentation tools, DVD players, CD players, MP3, Video editing, sound recording editing, text editors, whole office suites, - everything. OK ... you get some 'basic' stuff, and then post-install a lot of other potentially more useful stuff. Compare with Windows and Minsweeper or Solitare! ;-) I specialised in control and electronics and all the 'new technology' stuff, so was always being creative. I put together a 555 timer in astable mode this weekend on a breadboard looking for a square wave generator. I wanted to use it to switch on another circuit, then off again at regular intervals. How hard could it be? I got an always on LED! Sigh! It's far simpler with Arduino! Ah ... yes ... fault tracing in electronics is like de-bugging in software ... a potential long and tortuous road. Schools have mirrored and followed almost exactly all of the previous mistakes that industry first followed. Have they mirrored or have they been pushed in that direction by politicians and other do-gooders with an agenda? Umm ... you may say that a lot of hardware and software has been sold to Schools ... :-) ... but then, we are not cynical; are we? -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Morning Malcolm, I have now registered with both Farnell and RS, which was all very easy to do. The former are offering a 'free' special edition Rpi T-Shirt, too ... :-) I've seen those - element 14 I think. OK ... with Linux it all seems an endless series of 'flavours' of Linux. It may look that way but Linux, or more accurately GNU/Linux is the kernel, the actual OS if you like. That's pretty much standard across all distros. A few distros do modify the kernel slightly to match their needs, but usually it's in non-important areas. The distro itself comes in many flavours, including the applications supplied, the GUI in use - KDE, Gnome, Gnome3, etc. This doesn't mean that if you use Linux Mint with Gnome that your applications won't run on OpenSuse with KDE - they will. OK ... you get some 'basic' stuff, and then post-install a lot of other potentially more useful stuff. Sort of. With Windows you install everything (ie, the OS) and then start buying applications, or downloading Firefox, Chrome, whatever from many different places. How secure these places are, you have no idea. With Linux, everything is on the DVD initially, and part of the installation set you up with repositories and it is from these that you get your new stuff, updates, patches and so on. These repositories are secure in that they use security signatures and certificates to prove their validity. Ah ... yes ... fault tracing in electronics is like de-bugging in software ... a potential long and tortuous road. It came to me this AM when I was in bed what I'd done wrong. I need to check later to see if my subconscious was right. My two timing resitors needed to be around 1K and 144K to go with the 100nF capacitor. I have a funny feeling that I used a 980K instead of 144K - major failure there for around 144k! ;-) Umm ... you may say that a lot of hardware and software has been sold to Schools ... :-) ... but then, we are not cynical; are we? Most of our schools are sponsored by Microsoft. As is most of government. We are doomed to repeat the errors of our predecessors if we never learn. And yes, we are cynical, with good reason I'm afraid! ;-) Hope you get your Pi soon. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I was too slow off the mark to secure an order but my name is down as an interested party for the next batch. As a side thought, the Raspberry Pi comes without a case, here must exist a fantastic opportunity for someone to manufacture cases, plastic, metal, glass etc ! Taken to its logical conclusion, this could potentially restart the mid 1980s home computer boon with cases, add-ons, adapters, software... Only thing missing is the allow 28 days for delivery Maybe in this case and as it's 21st century, you should phrase that as allow 28 website crashes for delivery Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In message 4f5075c9.2000...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Morning all, I see someone has pre-ordered 10 and is offering on ebay for £95 each. I thought only one per person was allowed. Wish we could rid ourselves of these touts trying to collar the market. The person on ebay was shut down pretty quickly by the Raspberry Pi Foundation. He had nothing to sell and was showing an image of a pre-production alpha board. The rule about one per person stand. The cost is £21.56 ish not including postage and the only places you can get one is from RS or Farnell. ... They had also managed to get someone who was involved in the original BBC Model B, to interview. Yes, David Braben. He wrote (or co-wrote) Elite for the BBC and is a founding member of the Raspberry Pi Foundation. Like others, I can wait a while ... then, too, there will have been some things written to be able to use on the machine ... :-) Not really. It comes with Fedora Linux on an SD card, or you supply one, so you have all the tools for development at hand already. The Fedora image takes about 2 Gb so the rest of the card can be used for data. RSIC-OS is also available for it. In education we are already familiar with dedicated devices for controlling hardware ... like Lego MindStorms and Picaxe, to name but two. Better than most schools then. ICT seems to involve learning to spreadsheet and word process but little else. A friend of mine with children bought my old laptop so that the kids could be taught useful things about computers, not just what they get in ICT at school. Still ... lots of potential fun to come in the future . Indeed. Cheers, Norm. Hi Norman, I thought that you would one the first 'Rpi owners ... :-) I have not heard of Fedora Linux ... though I guess it not a hat? Development tools ... yes, but what actual software or 'apps' are already around to make it immediately usable? I specialised in control and electronics and all the 'new technology' stuff, so was always being creative. Schools have mirrored and followed almost exactly all of the previous mistakes that industry first followed. New technology comes along ... some people find a use for it, and develop something creative ... then someone wants to manage it all, so along come IT Managers and 'standard' software packages that all have to use ... creativity drops off ... then someone has a new idea to get rid of all the managers and put the technology back in the hands of people who can find a use for it ... creativity starts . -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
In message 4f4e8374.5010...@newlan.org, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org writes On 29/02/2012 07:36, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 29/02/2012 01:11, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. I see someone has pre-ordered 10 and is offering on ebay for £95 each. I thought only one per person was allowed. Wish we could rid ourselves of these touts trying to collar the market. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I'm happy to wait until the market settles, and then perhaps we shall be able to buy over the counter locally at Stockport RS counter to avoid carriage. My simple need is to replace the bulky QL, and also having to keep spares just to do my little apps. I've usb hubs, wireless usb keyboard and usb floppies which do me. I just haven't the time or skills to set it up. I'm going to have to rely on help, probably from the local group or a workshop. I take it that this will be getting the right stuff on the SD card. Bryan H UK A news article on Radio 4, on Wednesday 29th February 2012, announced the cost as being around £22 for a RPi. Which was described as a credit card sized computer to encourage programming. They had also managed to get someone who was involved in the original BBC Model B, to interview. Like others, I can wait a while ... then, too, there will have been some things written to be able to use on the machine ... :-) In education we are already familiar with dedicated devices for controlling hardware ... like Lego MindStorms and Picaxe, to name but two. Still ... lots of potential fun to come in the future . -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:16 | Feb29: Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: Just received this:- The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Oh yes, set my alarm clock already ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope. Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*! Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of QL spares. Yes indeed - the site is overloaded. I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). Amazingly the product page makes not mention of price. Also only model B (the only one to buy!) is offered at the moment. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:30 | Feb29: Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:16 | Feb29: Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: Just received this:- The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Oh yes, set my alarm clock already ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope. Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*! Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of QL spares. Yes indeed - the site is overloaded. I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). Amazingly the product page makes not mention of price. Also only model B (the only one to buy!) is offered at the moment. They have now shut down the site: --- Site unavailable Our websites are currently unavailable whilst we perform a scheduled system upgrade. Every effort has been made to minimise the impact of this event and we apologise for any inconvenience this has caused. Should you wish to place an order or speak to a sales representative please refer to the contact list below: __ Their *real* number is 01772 654455 for those with mobiles (ie expensive 08 numbers). I never actually fully use my inclusive minutes, so 01/02/03 and UK mobile calls are 'free'. Isn't it amazing that most large companies do not realise '08' numbers are a massive disincentive to call, even the 'cheap' 0845. http://saynoto0870.com is your friend of course. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:38 | Feb29: snip I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). They only allow one order, so look for batteries. They are very cheap if bought in bulk! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:42 | Feb29: Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:38 | Feb29: snip I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). They only allow one order, so look for batteries. They are very cheap if bought in bulk! Their website is still down! I have ordered one by phone (01772 654455 to beat the dreaded '08') for £21.60 plus VAT. They confirmed the website issue was due to demand, and they were even struggling with their intranet, which probably uses a similar database interface. Nice headline - Raspberries crash UKs largest distributor. It will be interesting to see whether it is possible to port QDOS. As it runs Linux, I guess UQLX will be the route. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 29/02/2012 01:11, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. I see someone has pre-ordered 10 and is offering on ebay for £95 each. I thought only one per person was allowed. Wish we could rid ourselves of these touts trying to collar the market. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 29/02/2012 07:36, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 29/02/2012 01:11, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. I see someone has pre-ordered 10 and is offering on ebay for £95 each. I thought only one per person was allowed. Wish we could rid ourselves of these touts trying to collar the market. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I'm happy to wait until the market settles, and then perhaps we shall be able to buy over the counter locally at Stockport RS counter to avoid carriage. My simple need is to replace the bulky QL, and also having to keep spares just to do my little apps. I've usb hubs, wireless usb keyboard and usb floppies which do me. I just haven't the time or skills to set it up. I'm going to have to rely on help, probably from the local group or a workshop. I take it that this will be getting the right stuff on the SD card. Bryan H UK ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Unfortunately any account with CPC-Farnell is not recognised with 'Farnell', they are treated as two separate companies which means registering with Farnell separately if you wish to purchase. they had sold out of Raspi when I managed to get through by phone :( On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: Just received this:- The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Oh yes, set my alarm clock already ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope. Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*! Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of QL spares. Tony Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG __**_ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htmhttp://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Bryan, the eBay person was a scam and has been shut down. He or she never had any to sell and the image was a pre-production alpha model. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Lee Privett wrote, on 29/Feb/12 20:25 | Feb29: Unfortunately any account with CPC-Farnell is not recognised with 'Farnell', they are treated as two separate companies which means registering with Farnell separately if you wish to purchase. they had sold out of Raspi when I managed to get through by phone :( When I first got the cpc-farnell Pi page it had a link to Add to basket but it crashed soon afterwards. I rang them soon after they opened for telephone sales, and they accepted my order with credit card. The website was down until well after midday. When the site recovered, the *same* cpc-farnell page only had a form to express interest. I am pretty sure there is effectively only *one* contact point, and the appearance of the form was simply that their initial stock, probably 5000 (ie 50% of the initial run), was sold out. The 'interest' form was on RS very very early, so I suspect they sold out quickly due to the Farnell web issue. I bet Farnell will invest in better IT systems soon! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] RaspberryPI update
Device seems to be moving along nicely...Now plays QUAKE III http://www.raspberrypi.org/?p=106 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi computer - a possible future system running the QL emulation?
On 25/07/2011 12:51, Lee Privett wrote: Well, the website has been updated and now looks very clean and professional, no further information there yet though http://www.raspberrypi.org/ Regards, Lee Privett -Back to the QL- http://backtotheql.blogspot.com/ https://sites.google.com/site/iwant2learn2/ https://sites.google.com/site/theqlimagerepository/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I've just received this reply from Eben Upton at Rasbperrypi:- Hi there Thanks for your mail, and apologies for the delay in replying; as you can imagine, we're swamped. The devices should be available to the general public later in the year; I'll add you to our mailing list, and will keep you posted as we get closer to launch. Bryan H UK ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] RaspberryPi computer - a possible future system running the QL emulation?
Well, the website has been updated and now looks very clean and professional, no further information there yet though http://www.raspberrypi.org/ Regards, Lee Privett -Back to the QL- http://backtotheql.blogspot.com/ https://sites.google.com/site/iwant2learn2/ https://sites.google.com/site/theqlimagerepository/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
